SONY ERICSSON CELLPHONE OWNERS!!! READ HERE.. Rogers wireless...

[hayden1107]

Got a Sony Ericsson Cell phone that won't let you download your own ringtone? Perhaps your service provider LOCKED IT?? Or you bought the new w580i and you can no longer RECORD your own ring tones because your provider figured that loophole out too....

then READ THIS.. I found a loop hole, that I DIDNT think existed before now!!!! All you have to do is....

Download this Program...
MP3 Ringtone Extractor Free off www.downloads.com
then you get to create your own ringtone, whereever you want it to start in a song, wherever you want it to end, its UP to you, any mp3 song can be converted and this is all FREE!!! Then make sure it says it will convert to a .wav file at the bottom of the program, and then click EXTRACT!
Now transfer it to your phone via the data cable you received with the phone, and you got your ringtone.
STOP PAYING for ringtones!
STOP dealing with locked phones by your service providers.
THIS IS ALL FREE!!
The converting program, mp3 files can be downloaded on the web that are free, and you're transferring is FREE!!!

P.S. You can convert it to an .acc file type but I haven't tried that because the .wav files work just fine...

I'm with rogers wireless, and I have the w580... I used to have the w810 where I would just record my ringtones thrugh the voice recorder, but with the w580 and w810's with newer software they figured out that plan and blocked that file type from being used as a ringtone, so I called Sony and I got this tip!!!!

[coriolis]

Or you can use Sony Ericsson's own DRM converter...

[ProfessorChaos]

Or you can use Sony Ericsson's own DRM converter...

or u can get it unbranded...

[T3NSION]

Hong Kong phones for the win..

[killoverme]

or u can use wma files

[BB88]

Hong Kong phones for the win..

I have unbranded my W300i with a Hong Kong firmware... free! Just use the attached cables, and download the firmwares from topsony.com. Get the free softwares from http://forums.se-nse.net/index.php?act=home to do the flashing.

[MrDisco]

or you can post in Computers/Electronics as there is nothing remotely close to a deal here....

[HowEver]

or you can post this 10 months ago, when it was news.

[convoluted]

Just a touch harsh to a newbie, aren't you guys?... When's the last time you guys tried posting a deal?

[rogeryen]

this is what I've been doing for years.

[Airey]

:lol: Alright guys, OP just placed it on the wrong section, good intentions nonetheless. Thanks for the info~

[Paolo]

Service Providers IE Rogers/Fido do NOT lock the ringtone function of the phone. The software made by Sony Ericsson designed for north american carriers has the lock put in it, where as software for other markets do not.

You want a ringtone? then PAY for it you cheap downloading bastard.

[Alvito]

Service Providers IE Rogers/Fido do NOT lock the ringtone function of the phone. The software made by Sony Ericsson designed for north american carriers has the lock put in it, where as software for other markets do not.

You want a ringtone? then PAY for it you cheap downloading bastard.

pay who? rogers? i already give them 26.25 for cell phone services. I think thats enough.

[bubble.tea]

Just a touch harsh to a newbie, aren't you guys?... When's the last time you guys tried posting a deal?
yes, tad harsh to the n00b. I thought RFD we try to help each other out, not flame people for being 'behind the times'??

Service Providers IE Rogers/Fido do NOT lock the ringtone function of the phone. The software made by Sony Ericsson designed for north american carriers has the lock put in it, where as software for other markets do not.

You want a ringtone? then PAY for it you cheap downloading bastard.

and who do you think sets the parameters for what the software does??
Exactly..the providers :rolleyes:.

Not sure why you're bringing this 'higher than thou' attitude here on RFD., but I for one don't appreciate it. Here on RFD we like to help each other out., and yes even when it's a n00b., a little extended courtesy-and extra patience goes a long way when helping someone out.

The industry has been built to nickle and dime everybody for every little keystroke on their cellphone, RFD is about saving people money. Treatz, and the other mods on Rogers forum, even ALLOW the threads about MP3 ringtone unlocking to continue, so not sure where you get the idea that it's wrong to save a couple bucks to put on their own ringtones/games/themes/etc etc.

I think you need to chill out and be nice to this n00b-and provide a link for a whole bunch of apps :D.

My $0.02, there are yet many THOUSANDS of people who are still discovering for the first time about hofo, and RFD, so cut them some slack if they're painfully behind the times :lol:.

@ OP, enjoy your little 'h4ck'...this is just the tip of the iceberg in cellphone mods available:cheesygri. Go with motorola and you'll be LOST at the various things you can do to your cell ;).

[Paolo]

and who do you think sets the parameters for what the software does??
Exactly..the providers :rolleyes:.


Well if you are saying that to release classified information, then so be it, thats a Catch 22, no one will say ur wrong because no body wants to breach their NDA, and no body will say your right because no body wants to breach their NDA too. So thanks.

Secondly, RFD is not here to "circumvent" companies and businesses by telling consumers how to get their products and or services for "Free" No, thats not the moral of RFD. RFD is how to Help Consumers find "Great Deals" that are usually Not Advertized widely. Instead of telling people how to "Screw Rogers" and get Ringtones for "Nothing" you should be positng about when Rogers offers "Free Ringtone Promotions" so customers can still get the ringtones they want, get them for Free or cheap, and NOT have to interfere with companies such as Rogers losing profits. Because if it wasnt for Rogers in the business of cellphones, we'd all be on Telus and Bell and we'd be even more Screwed, so you should be thankfull. Amen.

[Alvito]

Well if you are saying that to release classified information, then so be it, thats a Catch 22, no one will say ur wrong because no body wants to breach their NDA, and no body will say your right because no body wants to breach their NDA too. So thanks.

Secondly, RFD is not here to "circumvent" companies and businesses by telling consumers how to get their products and or services for "Free" No, thats not the moral of RFD. RFD is how to Help Consumers find "Great Deals" that are usually Not Advertized widely. Instead of telling people how to "Screw Rogers" and get Ringtones for "Nothing" you should be positng about when Rogers offers "Free Ringtone Promotions" so customers can still get the ringtones they want, get them for Free or cheap, and NOT have to interfere with companies such as Rogers losing profits. Because if it wasnt for Rogers in the business of cellphones, we'd all be on Telus and Bell and we'd be even more Screwed, so you should be thankfull. Amen.

No way, rogers didnt invent ringtones, they cant own it and make consumers buy it. I bought a phone that has a feature, Rogers is disabling that feature, I have the right, as someone who purchased that phone, to USE that feature.

Rogers screwed me, I screwed them.

[Paolo]

No way, rogers didnt invent ringtones, they cant own it and make consumers buy it. I bought a phone that has a feature, Rogers is disabling that feature, I have the right, as someone who purchased that phone, to USE that feature.

Rogers screwed me, I screwed them.

You are NOT limited to buying them from rogers, what don't you get? you can buy them from sympatico, muchmusic, jamster, mtv, fido, rogers, alvito's wap site, jhonny.org, the results are endless.

Do you buy cds from the store or music from iTunes? if you have the right to steal, then you do not know anything about local and copyright laws because it doesnt state anywhere in those laws that you have the right to do such. They will just make it harder for you to use ringtones untill you actually Realize you have to purchase them from ANY legit content provider.

[Paolo]

Got a Sony Ericsson Cell phone that won't let you download your own ringtone? Perhaps your service provider LOCKED IT?? Or you bought the new w580i and you can no longer RECORD your own ring tones because your provider figured that loophole out too....


Your fully aware that the device you bought lets you make playback use ringtones that were purchased, incase you were wondering, there was a leaflet included with the phone manuals and documents indicating such. If you did NOT agree to that, then you have the right to return your phone within the 15-day allowable period for purchases under buyer's remourse (product dissatisfaction) stated by the retail store and then you can buy one from overseas instead, pay more money, and have no local warranty and NO support for your device here, but Yet you will be able to play back copyrighted ringtones, does that make sense? because that is what you should do.

[Ziggy007]

Your fully aware that the device you bought lets you make playback use ringtones that were purchased, incase you were wondering, there was a leaflet included with the phone manuals and documents indicating such. If you did NOT agree to that, then you have the right to return your phone within the 15-day allowable period for purchases under buyer's remourse (product dissatisfaction) stated by the retail store and then you can buy one from overseas instead, pay more money, and have no local warranty and NO support for your device here, but Yet you will be able to play back copyrighted ringtones, does that make sense? because that is what you should do.

Simply unlocking the phone and using the normal non-Rogers branded firmware should allow you to use MP3 ringtones.

It is well within a persons right to update their firmware direct from the SEUS website, given Rogers never updates theirs.

[hayden1107]

You know what guys? Talk about flaming!!! Im sorry if I didn't know it was already posted earlier. I'm sorry if I was trying to help other people aka noobs, who don't know about these options that they have. Thanks to the people who did stick up for the pst.

My w810 let me have all the features when I bought it last OCT, then when I sent my phone in for repairs for a software malfunction, they updated my software and it got locked, THEN I upgraded to the w580 that also has feature locked, and I already have to get it sent in because my bluetooth isn't working at all, so I'm not going to pay 4 bucks for a ringtune thats not even the song I want, or the part of the song I want. Ive already paid for the phone to the service provider, and I'm paying them the monthly fees, and all the surcharges, than tax to the gov't. I'm sorry but I don't have a money tree in my backyard. I'm not going to get it unlocked where its going to cost me even more money, for a phone I will upgrade in 6 months, and for the person who said SONY put on the lock, UMM NO.. its ROGERS who does, because if you chose that phone with , lets say, an american company, that feature is available. Its the SERVICE PROVIDERS discretion on how the phone is used. Not yours, not sonys, theirs! If it was SOny, then SONY wouldn't tell me how to get around my providers locks.

So grow up, have some respect and dignity, and shut up. Maybe if you weren't so selfish, you would have people stand by your side. I could care less, who you pay for your stuff, or how much YOU want to spend. I'm trying to save money for the OTHER people who DO care about posts like these. Instead of wasting our time, Why don't you waste more of your own time, and flame all the websites that offer the FREE ringtunes, wallpapers, graphics, screensavers, or games.


P.S- I love rogers service, and reception, but I dislike how they only offer CERTAIN people the SPECIAL packages, and not the other people who don't have the courage to stand up for their rights, or if you do get the special package, they will tell you not to tell your friends because it won't be available or that promotion will end soon, like we're stupid. Retentions will always give you the special packages and deals if you feel its unfair, and say you will go somewhere else i.e. 1200 long distance minutes for free or for 5 bucks, unlimited txting, call display for free, special rated rateplans, etc. If you support that, then be my guest, and pay the ridulous prices, but if I smell a deal then I'm going to reach for it.


Originally Posted by Paolo
Your fully aware that the device you bought lets you make playback use ringtones that were purchased, incase you were wondering, there was a leaflet included with the phone manuals and documents indicating such. If you did NOT agree to that, then you have the right to return your phone within the 15-day allowable period for purchases under buyer's remourse (product dissatisfaction) stated by the retail store and then you can buy one from overseas instead, pay more money, and have no local warranty and NO support for your device here, but Yet you will be able to play back copyrighted ringtones, does that make sense? because that is what you should do.

>>>>Return policy is 14 days, or less than 30 minutes talk time, whatever comes first. Or if you order through the call centre or internet its 30 days including shipping times.

[hayden1107]

Your fully aware that the device you bought lets you make playback use ringtones that were purchased, incase you were wondering, there was a leaflet included with the phone manuals and documents indicating such. If you did NOT agree to that, then you have the right to return your phone within the 15-day allowable period for purchases under buyer's remourse (product dissatisfaction) stated by the retail store and then you can buy one from overseas instead, pay more money, and have no local warranty and NO support for your device here, but Yet you will be able to play back copyrighted ringtones, does that make sense? because that is what you should do.

Local warranty?? Phff... I get more support and a better warranty from Sony than Rogers. Every time something goes wrong, I always get referred to Sony anyways. Like I said earlier, I'm not goin to pay 4 bucks for a 2 second ringtone, when it takes longer for my voicemail to kick in, and would rather have a ringtune that doesn't repeat the same lyrics. I rather choose my own parts and length. You can keep thinking your God's little angel, but you know you break laws yourself i.e. speeding?!?!?! Lying?!?!?! Cheating?!?!?! Don't say you haven't done those things.. you're not Jesus, so get over it!

[Paolo]

You can keep thinking your God's little angel, but you know you break laws yourself i.e. speeding?!?!?! Lying?!?!?! Cheating?!?!?! Don't say you haven't done those things.. you're not Jesus, so get over it!

Was it really necessary because you realized that ringtone you wanted costs $3.75, so you needed to make a big stink about it and ranted and called me God's little angel, or jesus or claim I dont break the laws myself because it hurts to hear the truth?

Wow, so I guess every time someone tells me the Toronto Maple Leafs Suck, I'm going to call them Devils and throw eggs at them and tell them theyre SATAN lovers and that they speed in their cars.. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

[Kasakato]

In any case..

Paolo, you seem to know a bit about Fido. Would you happen to know if I can switch a PAYG account with $150 on it, from a relative, into my name/address? They are switching to Petro Can Mobile as they dont use the $10/month and Im getting an iPhone. I would then like to go on a monthly plan- any hope I can get the $15 retentions?

[Paolo]

In any case..

Paolo, you seem to know a bit about Fido. Would you happen to know if I can switch a PAYG account with $150 on it, from a relative, into my name/address? They are switching to Petro Can Mobile as they dont use the $10/month and Im getting an iPhone. I would then like to go on a monthly plan- any hope I can get the $15 retentions?

You definately can take over someones fidomatic account. Though, you MAY loose the airtime balance when the transfer is complete. When your relative calls in to transfer it over, just pick up the phone and ask the rep and see if they can do anything to preserve the balance, it doesnt hurt to ask the rep. I'm guessing its up to them and it depends if their system is capable of doing such. Some systems are NOT capable, such as the Mobility Canada pay as u go systems (CDMA)

[Kasakato]

You definately can take over someones fidomatic account. Though, you MAY loose the airtime balance when the transfer is complete. When your relative calls in to transfer it over, just pick up the phone and ask the rep and see if they can do anything to preserve the balance, it doesnt hurt to ask the rep. I'm guessing its up to them and it depends if their system is capable of doing such. Some systems are NOT capable, such as Bell/Solo/Virgin

Even if they cant, I see them once a week. They could just pass the invoice to me whenever it arrives. Does Fido care if your credit card payment name matches the account holder name?

Do I have any hope with the $15 retentions? If not, what plan is best for 100-150min/mo and 50 texts?

[Paolo]

Even if they cant, I see them once a week. They could just pass the invoice to me whenever it arrives. Does Fido care if your credit card payment name matches the account holder name?

Do I have any hope with the $15 retentions? If not, what plan is best for 100-150min/mo and 50 texts?

why are you talking about monthly plans? Wasnt your question about a Pay as u go account? there is NO invoice on Pay Go. you simply have a acount and an Access Code to re-fill it.

If all your doing is using it and re-filling it, then you dont need to do any more.

[Kasakato]

why are you talking about monthly plans? Wasnt your question about a Pay as u go account? there is NO invoice on Pay Go. you simply have a acount and an Access Code to re-fill it.

If all your doing is using it and re-filling it, then you dont need to do any more.

What Im doing is switching from Pre-Paid to Post-paid. The pre-paid plans dont have enough in them for me.

[hayden1107]

Service Providers IE Rogers/Fido do NOT lock the ringtone function of the phone. The software made by Sony Ericsson designed for north american carriers has the lock put in it, where as software for other markets do not.

You want a ringtone? then PAY for it you cheap downloading bastard.

This is what I was referring to when calling you God's Little Angel!! You called "us" cheap bastards because we refuse to pay for a ringtune when it's not necessary to do so. AND, I'm not going to buy an unlocked phone or get mine unlocked when I can do the steps I stated above, and NOT void my warranty.
In my opinion its like financing a car. It's mine even if I still have payments left on it, I can do whatever I want with it, and it doesn't void my warranty. Why shouldn't it be the same as a cellphone, where in 1, 2, or 3 years its going to mine. The only thing thats different, is if I default on a phone, or cancel. The phones still mine! They don't take it away. As for the downloading part, it's our choice on what we do, we don't need people like you calling us names because we do it. You don't feel like everything is so ridiculously priced these days? 20 bucks for a cd, and some only come with like 10 songs?!?! A buck a song online? 50 bucks to watch someone in concert for an hour, like we pay a buck just to have 911 service on a cellphone. Artists still make millions from their concerts, ticket sales, side deals, and from people like you, who don't download. I'm just not YOU!
i.e. if I could find my own way to the moon for a lot cheaper, than paying 5 million bucks to NASA or the Gov't, then of course I'll take my own route.

P.S- I agree with you that the Leafs do suck.

[Paolo]

What Im doing is switching from Pre-Paid to Post-paid. The pre-paid plans dont have enough in them for me.

I don't get it? why would u want to take over someones account with a pre-paid plan, and end up wanting to migrate it to a post-paid /monthly plan anyways? that kind of defeats the purpose and you end up closing a fidomatic account which doesnt have to happen.

Why not just go into a store and activate a NEW monthly line? you would still perform a credit check the same way you do if your migrating from prepaid to post paid. Why do 10X more the work for the same result? its like hayden1107 thinking he will NOT loose his warranty when he unlocks his phone when infact it does become voided. I wont admit it, but the company themself made that statement, you can even e-mail them yourself if you dont believe me.

[Kasakato]

I don't get it? why would u want to take over someones account with a pre-paid plan, and end up wanting to migrate it to a post-paid /monthly plan anyways? that kind of defeats the purpose and you end up closing a fidomatic account which doesnt have to happen.

Why not just go into a store and activate a NEW monthly line? you would still perform a credit check the same way you do if your migrating from prepaid to post paid. Why do 10X more the work for the same result? its like hayden1107 thinking he will NOT loose his warranty when he unlocks his phone when infact it does become voided. I wont admit it, but the company themself made that statement, you can even e-mail them yourself if you dont believe me.

Because theres $150 in unused airtime on the prepaid account. I want to switch that over to credit to use for the monthly payments.

[Paolo]

Because theres $150 in unused airtime on the prepaid account. I want to switch that over to credit to use for the monthly payments.

Chances always are.. You will Loose the credit upon migration to post paid. Its like that with all carriors. Prepaid credit is not the same as monthly credit... what gave you the idea the prepaid credit can be converted into a monthly bill credit? jesus?

[Kasakato]

Chances always are.. You will Loose the credit upon migration to post paid. Its like that with all carriors. Prepaid credit is not the same as monthly credit... what gave you the idea the prepaid credit can be converted into a monthly bill credit? jesus?
So this is wrong?

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=861347

11. Migrating from a Fido Prepaid service to a monthly account

It is also possible to migrate your Fido Prepaid service to a postpaid account. There is no fees to do this, and you can keep your SIM and your phone number.

When you migrate, any balance left on your Fido Prepaid service will be transfered as a credit on your first invoice.

[hayden1107]

its like hayden1107 thinking he will NOT loose his warranty when he unlocks his phone when infact it does become voided. I wont admit it, but the company themself made that statement, you can even e-mail them yourself if you dont believe me.

If you would have read the sentence I wrote precisely, I said it WOULD void my warranty IF I went that route, or I can just CONVERT my songs into a different file and NOT void my warranty. When I stated, "the steps I stated above", I meant the whole reason this post was even started. Why would I make things difficult for myself? My plans working just fine.

"Don't fix what is NOT broken"

[hayden1107]

So this is wrong?

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=861347

11. Migrating from a Fido Prepaid service to a monthly account

It is also possible to migrate your Fido Prepaid service to a postpaid account. There is no fees to do this, and you can keep your SIM and your phone number.

When you migrate, any balance left on your Fido Prepaid service will be transfered as a credit on your first invoice.

Why don't you just call FIDO and find out from them, then having to type paragraphs into the forum and wait a bit for a response?? :confused: But I do see where youre coming from, about switching to Postpaid and wanting to keep the airtime amount from your pay as you go. Don't believe everything you read or hear though, so don't be upset if Fido says the Forum is wrong, and if you feel the Rep isn't answering your questions in 'detail' or places you on hold a lot to find your answers, then hang up and just call back again. I find that with every service provider, you can always get different reps that give you several answers. BEST OPTION- right off the bat, ask for rententions, and dont take NO for an answer, but be pleasant.
But when I was with Bell Mobility a couple years ago, they migrated me to post paid FROM Prepaid, and they transferred my remaining balance without a problem They're not FIDO but it can give you a little hope.

[Kasakato]

Why don't you just call FIDO and find out from them, then having to type paragraphs into the forum and wait a bit for a response?? :confused: But I do see where youre coming from, about switching to Postpaid and wanting to keep the airtime amount from your pay as you go. Don't believe everything you read or hear though, so don't be upset if Fido says the Forum is wrong, and if you feel the Rep isn't answering your questions in 'detail' or places you on hold a lot to find your answers, then hang up and just call back again. I find that with every service provider, you can always get different reps that give you several answers. BEST OPTION- right off the bat, ask for rententions, and dont take NO for an answer, but be pleasant.
But when I was with Bell Mobility a couple years ago, they migrated me to post paid FROM Prepaid, and they transferred my remaining balance without a problem They're not FIDO but it can give you a little hope.

They were closed this weekend. :lol: Will call later today.

[M-e-X-x]

DIY free debranding ftw! but of course make sure u know what u're actually doing!

[Kasakato]

Just though Id update. Going from PP to monthly, there is no charge. Going from monthly to PP theres a $25 charge. Had to go though 3 reps to ensure this, the first 2 said there was a fee. I got his name and he said to ask for him when I wanted to switch over.

[hayden1107]

That's awesome, thanks for the update, and glad its worked out in your favour. Don't you hate having to talk to different reps in order to get a definite answer?!?! Good Luck to the switch..