Idiot Soccer Mom races train, loses - 2 kids dead.

[Lonely Soldier Boy]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-traindeath_websep07,1,975134.story

When I saw they wanted funeral cost donations, I thought it was a troll. I am LOLing at the Darwin award-worthy thought process.

"I either wait 2 minutes, or I risk the lives of 4 children trying to run two trains. Ah, screw it, if they can do it in the movies..."

I am glad her sons survived at least, I hope their expressed genes are from their dad's side.

As for funeral costs, I will not be contributing to her funeral costs if she dies. She should ride the train to eternity in a ditch somewhere. However, I might send a few bucks for the daughters.

[chickenbones]

Nothing to "LOL" about. :mad:

If the Mother live she should go to jail for murder or at least manslaughter!

Edit:

I think she couldn't have picked a worse time to race the train. I mean she hot hit by two train crossing the track at the same time!!! What a totally suicidal move!

[sw1ft]

Nothing to "LOL" about. :mad:
+1

[Lonely Soldier Boy]

Nothing to "LOL" about. :mad:

If the Mother live she should go to jail for murder or at least manslaughter!

Don't you find it morbidly amusing that someone cares so little about the lives of their children that they would try to race a train to save a few minutes?

[D-Roc]

Don't you find it morbidly amusing that someone cares so little about the lives of their children that they would try to race a train to save a few minutes?


No, not in the slightest. 2 young lives were lost because of their mother's stupidity. Where is the humour in that? I think you need to re-evaluate what you consider funny.

[Lonely Soldier Boy]

No, not in the slightest. 2 young lives were lost because of their mother's stupidity. Where is the humour in that? I think you need to re-evaluate what you consider funny.

It is eminently funny.

Humor derives from extremes. The same way that people find comedians like George Carlin (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3av_qRR_DWc) funny, I find this hilarious.

Here let me lay it out to you. If some came to me and told me that they ran a railtrack, I would think they were the stupidest people on the planet.

If they told me they did it in a car on top of that, I would think they would be even stupider.

On top of that, on a minivan/suv, even worse (harder to escape the barriers coming down)

ON TOP OF THAT, with a child in the back - even worse.

ON TOP OF THAT WITH 4 CHILDREN IN THE BACK, WITH TWO OF THEM BEING KILLED: so utterly horrible that it defies human reason and reaches the realm of being funny.

[mself084]

Don't you find it morbidly amusing that someone cares so little about the lives of their children that they would try to race a train to save a few minutes?

Gotta admit, I found it funny at first - what an idiot! just watching the video...what was she thinking? It'd be really interesting to know what was going through her head.

I am an insensitive jerk.

[Kranberry]

No, not in the slightest. 2 young lives were lost because of their mother's stupidity. Where is the humour in that? I think you need to re-evaluate what you consider funny.

+1, it's not amusing, it's sad...

[soulflare]

This thread is made of fail. :rolleyes:

[Driftwood]

Sure stupidity is funny... if it leads to the death of children... not funny. Kids dying is never amusing, no matter how you justify it.

[D-Roc]

It is eminently funny.

Humor derives from extremes. The same way that people find comedians like George Carlin (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3av_qRR_DWc) funny, I find this hilarious.

Here let me lay it out to you. If some came to me and told me that they ran a railtrack, I would think they were the stupidest people on the planet.

If they told me they did it in a car on top of that, I would think they would be even stupider.

On top of that, on a minivan/suv, even worse (harder to escape the barriers coming down)

ON TOP OF THAT, with a child in the back - even worse.

ON TOP OF THAT WITH 4 CHILDREN IN THE BACK, WITH TWO OF THEM BEING KILLED: so utterly horrible that it defies human reason and reaches the realm of being funny.

So, because it came to the point that two kids die, the rest received minor injuries and the mother is in critical condition, it has then "reached the realm of being funny"?

You are one sick SOB.

[Jin-n-Juice]

I cant see why you would put "LOL!" and then "2 kids dead" in the title...

[robertalan]

I cant see why you would put "LOL!" and then "2 kids dead" in the title...

You may not agree, but the OP has explained several times in this thread why he did that.

[stealth]

LOL?:rolleyes:
IBTL

[rubberband]

You suck. Edit your thread title.

[Frankie3s]

Mother must've had a death wish. What in the hell is ever so important to cause someone do this?

[Raimiette]

I actually agree with Lonely Soldier Boy.

It is amusing to me why a person would inexplicitly risk the lives of her children for something so silly, I mean what could she have possibly been thinking.

I feel very bad for the children involved but the general action makes me laugh in disbelief.

[D-Roc]

After watching the vid, all I can think is that she did not see the other train coming from the direct opposite. It is that train that hit her first, not the one that she was "racing" against.

[D-Roc]

I actually agree with Lonely Soldier Boy.

It is amusing to me why a person would inexplicitly risk the lives of her children for something so silly, I mean what could she have possibly been thinking.

I feel very bad for the children involved but the general action makes me laugh in disbelief.

The you too are in the same catagory as Soldier Boy. *shakes head*

[Lonely Soldier Boy]

The you too are in the same catagory as Soldier Boy. *shakes head*

You are a parent, it hits too close to home for you to understand the humor involved.

I am sure if it was some thief who stole a middle class person's car and drove it into the tracks, you would find more humor in the situation.

If it gets people talking about the woman instead of the title, I will edit the title.

[Raimiette]

The you too are in the same catagory as Soldier Boy. *shakes head*

Perhaps, but I think you misunderstand the laughter. It's not a "OMG this is so great and funny, lol" laugh, it's more of a "What the hell is wrong with people?" laugh.

I'm not laughing at what happened or the aftermath of what happened, that is of itself very sad. I'm laughing at how people can do things that just seem so incredibly daft and reckless.

However, if you feel you need to place yourself on a higher pedestal then myself feel free.

[Diamondog]

Hopefully she lives so she can be brought to justice, sent away then whacked in jail!

[D-Roc]

You are a parent, it hits too close to home for you to understand the humor involved.

I am sure if it was some thief who stole a middle class person's car and drove it into the tracks, you would find more humor in the situation.

If it gets people talking about the woman instead of the title, I will edit the title.


Parent or not, it is sick to be amused at someones tragic outcome. Sadly you may not be mature enough to understand.

Even if it was a thief, I would still not find it funny. Poetic justice probably, but not funny.

[kgen]

It's not so much the situation and outcome which makes this funny, but the premise with which this occured, I think. The fact that the mother, despite all common sense, tried to outrun a train, faiing to notice the second train rapidly approaching, and finally getting rammed twice is tragically ironic. I probably wouldn't classify this as an outright LOL, though.

Poor kids, dumb mom.

[D-Roc]

Perhaps, but I think you misunderstand the laughter. It's not a "OMG this is so great and funny, lol" laugh, it's more of a "What the hell is wrong with people?" laugh.

I'm not laughing at what happened or the aftermath of what happened, that is of itself very sad. I'm laughing at how people can do things that just seem so incredibly daft and reckless.

However, if you feel you need to place yourself on a higher pedestal then myself feel free.

It has nothing to with who is higher on what pedistal. It is about feeling compassion. Yes it is unbelievable that she would do something that puts her kids lives at risk, but it is another thing to "laugh" about it.

[Neb]

It is a tragedy when children gets injured, but this situation is TOTALLY preventable, and the mother should go to jail for this, or at least die because of her stupidity.

Watching the video makes me sick... and IMO she does not deserve to care for her children anymore.

[Madchester]

Schandenfreude works in mysterious ways.

[bionicbadger]

Heh. What an idiot. She starts off behind the one train so must have seen at least that one even if she didn't see the second train.

[hyperion]

Wow what an idiot. She WAITED for both trains to come and tried to pass in between them.

[hempopotamus]

I can almost guarantee that this ends up in a lawsuit where the station owner or the rail company is found liable somehow.

[CastIronStove]

Parent or not, it is sick to be amused at someones tragic outcome. Sadly you may not be mature enough to understand.

I would think maturity would prevent people from simplifying things into binary conditions.

[D-Roc]

I would think maturity would prevent people from simplifying things into binary conditions.

I would think that maturity would give people the ability to understand the difference between a humourous situation and a tragic one.

[blexann]

Wow

[Lonely Soldier Boy]

I would think that maturity would give people the ability to understand the difference between a humourous situation and a tragic one.

A tragedy involves people acting their best; a comedy involves people acting their worst. Fact. There is NOTHING tragic here when we focus on the woman, only when we focus on the children - which what I clearly am not doing.

So, a woman who is in a rush to skip a train is acting in a fashion befitting the dominant species on this planet? This is a bitter comedy, a Doctor Strangelove-esque tale. A woman in a rush, perhaps to get to watch a TV show or to get to an appointment - presumably to enrich her life - and ends up costing her family the lives of two of her children.

You have no idea what you are even talking about, but you sure like talking.

[Ben31]

What if she wanted to kill herself and her kids.

[poedua]

I would think that maturity would give people the ability to understand the difference between a humourous situation and a tragic one.

Which I suspect may be THE reason the distinction has escaped Lonely Soldier Boy.

Perhaps when he gets a little older and matures a bit more, the distinction will kick in.

[Lonely Soldier Boy]

Which I suspect may be THE reason the distinction has escaped Lonely Soldier Boy.

Perhaps when he gets a little older and matures a bit more, the distinction will kick in.

Still got a hard-on for my threads I see :lol:

BTW, Japan is great for chicks, sorry you can't afford to visit or I'd take you out :razz:

[poedua]

A tragedy involves people acting their best; a comedy involves people acting their worst. Fact. There is NOTHING tragic here when we focus on the woman, only when we focus on the children - which what I clearly am not doing.

So, a woman who is in a rush to skip a train is acting in a fashion befitting the dominant species on this planet? This is a bitter comedy, a Doctor Strangelove-esque tale. A woman in a rush, perhaps to get to watch a TV show or to get to an appointment - presumably to enrich her life - and ends up costing her family the lives of two of her children.

You have no idea what you are even talking about, but you sure like talking.

What planet are you from ?

A mother and her kids are dead - and you have the temerity to suggest " There is NOTHING tragic here " :rolleyes:

[poedua]

Still got a hard-on for my threads I see :lol:

Another one of your typical juvenile and immature comments. Brilliant.

Smarten up ' Boy ' and try and show some ' maturity ' for once.

BTW, Japan is great for chicks, sorry you can't afford to visit or I'd take you out :razz:

Huh ?

What does having to go half way around the world just to find someone who would be willing to date you ......have anything to do with this thread ?

[D-Roc]

A tragedy involves people acting their best; a comedy involves people acting their worst. Fact. There is NOTHING tragic here when we focus on the woman, only when we focus on the children - which what I clearly am not doing.




Are you for real?? When focusing on the mother it is not considered tragic?? Instead it is humourous?? It is tragic that the mother did not have the sense to not attempt to beat the train. It is tragic that she thought getting to her destination was more important than the safety of herself and her children. It is tragic that this mother is now laying in the hospital in critical condition.

If you find it so funny what not tell her (if she recovers), or her surviving children or her spouse (if she is married) how funny it is and see how they react.

YOU, my sick young friend, have no idea what you are talking about.

[i6s1]

Since the two girls were thrown from the car, I'd be willing to bet that they didn't have seat belts on either. The mom probably smoked in her car too.

[gordholio]

Some people have a really screwed-up sense of humour these days.

[poedua]

Are you for real?? When focusing on the mother it is not considered tragic?? Instead it is humourous?? It is tragic that the mother did not have the sense to not attempt to beat it. It is tragic that she thought getting to her destination was more important than the safety of herself and he children. It is tragic that this mother is now laying in the hospital in critical condition.

If you find it so funny what not tell her (if she recovers), or her surviving children or her spouse (if she is married) how funny it is and see how they react.

YOU, my sick young friend, have no idea what you are talking about.

Well said.

[perplexed_one]

It is eminently funny.

Humor derives from extremes. The same way that people find comedians like George Carlin (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3av_qRR_DWc) funny, I find this hilarious.

Here let me lay it out to you. If some came to me and told me that they ran a railtrack, I would think they were the stupidest people on the planet.

If they told me they did it in a car on top of that, I would think they would be even stupider.

On top of that, on a minivan/suv, even worse (harder to escape the barriers coming down)

ON TOP OF THAT, with a child in the back - even worse.

ON TOP OF THAT WITH 4 CHILDREN IN THE BACK, WITH TWO OF THEM BEING KILLED: so utterly horrible that it defies human reason and reaches the realm of being funny.

a better way to put this is to call this tragedy "ironic" and "recklessness and/or stupidity at its worst." but in no way is it funny.

[ephemera]

+1 Train
-1 Minivan

[Odysseus_Maximus]

Crazy I think the mom had a death wish.

[curtis]

What is tragic is that the mother didn't die.

She should be charged with manslaughter at the very least.

What planet are you from ?

A mother and her kids are dead - and you have the temerity to suggest " There is NOTHING tragic here " :rolleyes:

[Raimiette]

Okay, I'd just like to set a few things straight here so you don't get the wrong impression about me, because from the sounds of it you think I enjoy laughing at other peoples horrible misfortunes which isn't the case at all.

On reading Solider Boy's new posts I would have to say I do not agree with his assertation regarding the accident, he seems to genuinely amused by the incident which isn't exactly how I feel.

I do think this accident was tragic and certainly I am not amused by the actions, or the outcome, as anyone dying is generally upsetting.

It's not like I find the accident continuously funny or anything. It's hard for me to explain this...in this situation, when I read the article, it initially made me laugh at the sheer ridiculousness of it all. I mean, what person does that?

I'm not amused now when I read it but that was my initial reaction to it. At the time of my first post I had thought this was also how it was for Soldier Boy but I guess it is different for him.

[D-Roc]

What is tragic is that the mother didn't die.

She should be charged with manslaughter at the very least.


So then the rest of her kids will be without a mother. Nice.:rolleyes:

Yes she should be (and probably will be if she recovers) charged but not with manslaughter.

[i6s1]

I don't know which is more of a train wreck: This thread or the train wreck.

[kgen]

I don't think there is a need to apologize; death instills a multitude of feelings, not just the *obvious* sadness and compassion. When looking at the absurdity of the situation, it is hard not to feel how laughably unfair life sometimes is.

If you can't look past the initial layers of grief, then you are likely just relying on your conditioned response to feel sad (not that there is anything wrong with that).

[urameatball]

I find stupidity entertaining... and often laugh at it.

then I saw the video and read the article... that kind of stupidity isn't funny at all.

[Dragon120]

What can possibly be more important to the driver that she just can't wait for the train(s) to pass? What's the freaken hurry?

[sleepyguy]

Wow... I'm speechless.

[Nikita]

You are a parent, it hits too close to home for you to understand the humor involved.

I am sure if it was some thief who stole a middle class person's car and drove it into the tracks, you would find more humor in the situation.

If it gets people talking about the woman instead of the title, I will edit the title.

I'm not a parent, yet for the life of me I don't see how anyone finds humor in this.

Since the two girls were thrown from the car, I'd be willing to bet that they didn't have seat belts on either. The mom probably smoked in her car too.

Huh?:confused: What am I missing here besides the connection between smoking and getting whacked by a couple trains? As though what we do know happened isn't enough to talk about, lets just wildly speculate...maybe she was talking on her cell, maybe she was watching a vid on her cell, maybe she was fixing her make-up in the mirror etc etc etc....what is your point? She could have been doing all of those things and none would have had a bigger impact (s'cuse the pun) than racing the train.

[haotj]

Darwinism

[Rehan]

The soccer mom is not alone in her stupidity, it seems.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20630785/
Family members on Thursday mourned two girls killed in a train collision just as officials released surveillance video in the hopes that it would discourage other drivers who think about trying to beat trains.

...

Sambolin reported that cameras caught a car trying to beat the train on Thursday, and residents said cars trying to beat trains was commonplace. Residents also told Sambolin that gates would not make a difference.
:|

[curtis]

I bet the kids won't even notice the difference without her. Except maybe the rolling around bit in the minivan.

So then the rest of her kids will be without a mother. Nice.:rolleyes:

Yes she should be (and probably will be if she recovers) charged but not with manslaughter.

[Ozzy]

OP should have just left the original title be so people can judge how little human decency he has, but his reason for changing it is probably good enough to get an idea.

[getmail99]

The first thing is a gate or a tunnel should be installed.

[curtis]

Are you kidding? If they do that, the minivan's will have to drive over a fence and make their own crossing to race the train.

We need to build an underground train tunnel like a subway with stairwells that are gentle enough that when the cars try to go down to meet the trains, they don't flip over.

You never know when you're need to rush for the ticket gate, and driving down stairs is definitely faster than running!

The first thing is a gate or a tunnel should be installed.

[D-Roc]

I bet the kids won't even notice the difference without her. Except maybe the rolling around bit in the minivan.


That comment was completely inappropriate.

[curtis]

The truth hurts. Why hide it?

Actually, that's an interesting point. All these little white lies just keep building, and what does it result in? Momentary neutrality, but stupidity like this in the long term.

That comment was completely inappropriate.

[sfu_lifer]

This is a tragedy. I was chuckling until I read that the 2 kids died.
The Mom is who should be darwin-ized, not the innocent kids.

Loser Mom of the year hands down. The Dad should divorce her outright for being extremely stupid and they should deny her custody.

[sfu_lifer]

I don't know which is more of a train wreck: This thread or the train wreck.

This thread is becoming the definition of a train wreck...

[stealth]

At first I thought this topic sufferred from an inopportune use of language. Now I'm starting to think its nothing but trolling. :confused:

[AL3X]

i think everybody is just misunderstanding each other. The situation involves components of both humour and tragedy.

If the mom had raced and her car had been destroyed but everyone was fine, it could have been pretty funny depending on how you looked at it. For instance if there was a slow motion close up shot with "OWNED" across the screen, I bet many people would find it hilarious. (Assuming it was, perhaps, a teenager who was perfectly fine after)

As a previous poster noted, hilarity can also be related to the extremity of the situation. I'm sure he means no disrespect towards any of the involved or their families, but views humour in a different way than others in this thread. Both can be fair I assume, although I am no expert on the subject. I find both arguments have merit and there is no need for name calling and other insults. Rather, find flaws with each other's theory's and premises, not their personalities...

And yes the deaths of the involved were very tragic as well. There are differing definitions on tragedy, however. Such as the literary definition.

Just try not to let your emotions affect your arguments. This is one way misunderstandings cause wars and various other problems.

Thanks

[omagedon]

Well, I hope the mother lives so she can deal with the tragic loss of her sons every day.

[mcg]

God... just stop bashing and leave them be... this thread ain't going anywhere.

[cheeseshredder]

i think everybody is just misunderstanding each other. The situation involves components of both humour and tragedy.

If the mom had raced and her car had been destroyed but everyone was fine, it could have been pretty funny depending on how you looked at it. For instance if there was a slow motion close up shot with "OWNED" across the screen, I bet many people would find it hilarious. (Assuming it was, perhaps, a teenager who was perfectly fine after)

As a previous poster noted, hilarity can also be related to the extremity of the situation. I'm sure he means no disrespect towards any of the involved or their families, but views humour in a different way than others in this thread. Both can be fair I assume, although I am no expert on the subject. I find both arguments have merit and there is no need for name calling and other insults. Rather, find flaws with each other's theory's and premises, not their personalities...

And yes the deaths of the involved were very tragic as well. There are differing definitions on tragedy, however. Such as the literary definition.

Just try not to let your emotions affect your arguments. This is one way misunderstandings cause wars and various other problems.

Thanks

Ramiette explained this awhile back, and I agree with your points. But she/he also pointed out later that from reading the OP's other posts, it does seem like he genuinely finds the situation amusing, and I agree it does seem that way.

[poedua]

The truth hurts. Why hide it?



Why ?

Because it was a crass comment to make without even a semblance of truth to it.

[pham12h]

wonder if OP is still around.. it's sick people like him that tragedies like columbine occur..

[nopn]

You suck. Edit your thread title.

+1.

even how stupid the driver is ? They paid for their lesson.

is 2 kids dead, i dont see any funny here. "LOLing"

I hope you will banned.

[Shaner]

wonder if OP is still around.. it's sick people like him that tragedies like columbine occur..

What are you talking about? What does the OP have to do with school shootings?

I kind of agree with what the OP said. I don't find it funny that two kids died, that isn't funny in the least; however, when I read the story and then watched the clip (read the article and watched the clip a few times) I am just so amazed by her stupidity that I shook my head while laughing in disbelief. There's humor in the situation because it's so damn stupid it's beyond believable, there's not humor in it because people died. Those are two separate facts that happened to be joined by the same incident.

It's like when you bang your elbow or knee really hard. It hurts like a bast@rd, but all you can do is laugh. It's not funny and it truly does hurt, but all you can do is laugh through your clenched teeth.

If you still think I'm sick, then so be it. I don't find it funny that two kids died, I find humor (different from funny) in the sheer stupidity of the situation. I just can't believe some mother would do something like that. It's just so dumb that the only thing I can do is shake my head and chuckle. It's a different kind of chuckle than it is when I watch a funny movie, for example.

[Diamondog]

What are you talking about? What does the OP have to do with school shootings?

I kind of agree with what the OP said. I don't find it funny that two kids died, that isn't funny in the least; however, when I read the story and then watched the clip (read the article and watched the clip a few times) I am just so amazed by her stupidity that I shook my head while laughing in disbelief. There's humor in the situation because it's so damn stupid it's beyond believable, there's not humor in it because people died. Those are two separate facts that happened to be joined by the same incident.

It's like when you bang your elbow or knee really hard. It hurts like a bast@rd, but all you can do is laugh. It's not funny and it truly does hurt, but all you can do is laugh through your clenched teeth.

If you still think I'm sick, then so be it. I don't find it funny that two kids died, I find humor (different from funny) in the sheer stupidity of the situation. I just can't believe some mother would do something like that. It's just so dumb that the only thing I can do is shake my head and chuckle. It's a different kind of chuckle than it is when I watch a funny movie, for example.

2 children died therefore any humor in the situation is completely and utterly negated by that fact period.

[silentio]

She would have made it, if she hadnt moved her car to the left prior to getting to the rail, thus delaying the crossing by several seconds. Why she did that I cant really tell from the video

[Shaner]

The first thing is a gate or a tunnel should be installed.

I disagree. There's far too much protection out there for stupid people as it is. The more the government protects people from their own stupidity, the more people will do stupid things. There should be danger in life. There should be choice in life. People should be forced to make the responsible choice, the safe choice, the correct choice. Only then will people be less accustomed to the government being there at turn to protect them.

You can only shelter people for so long before they find out the hard way that the real world can be cruel. I say throw people to the wolves and force them to make smart choices in life. Not all will do so and that's sad, but the world is probably a better place without those people (although in this case, the stupid person happened to take two innocent kids with her, and that's truly sad).

[Shaner]

2 children died therefore any humor in the situation is completely and utterly negated by that fact period.

In your eyes, yes. Obviously my response is different than yours. I'm not sitting here laughing my arse off and telling my GF to come over and see how funny this is. I'm shaking my head in awe, feeling awful for the kids, wondering how people become so dumb, and chuckling because I just don't know how else to react to such a situation.

Lets face it, people are conditioned to feel certain things when death occurs. People only feel those things because they are taught that those feelings are the right way to feel and any other feelings are wrong.

Like I said, and this is the important part of my post so read closely, there is zero humor in the fact that two young girls died. There's not even any black humor in that; however, when I look at the overall picture of the entire incident, all I can do is laugh in amazement, not because it's funny, but because it's so incredibly stupid that a part of me deep down just can't believe someone could do such a thing. Like I said, it's the same thing when you bang your knee or elbow, it hurts like hell but all you can do is laugh through your clenched teeth and wait for the pain to go away.

[Lonely Soldier Boy]

I think the replies in here are funny in a telling way.

The megaphones with keyboards immediately going to the default answer (TRAGEDY TRAGEDY, HOW DARE YOU, COLUMBINE, THINK OF THE CHILDREN)

Intelligent Parents seeing themselves in the same situation - which is why they can't see how extreme or outrageous this behavior may seem in our situation. Without the sense of extreme or outrageousness, this can only be termed a tragedy.

The rest of us who have a measured response, for or against the humor of the situation.

Anyway I've said my peace, I think it is tragic what happened to the children and have made emails asking how to donate for their funeral.

I wonder how many of you have done the same. :idea:

[Lonely Soldier Boy]

I disagree. There's far too much protection out there for stupid people as it is. The more the government protects people from their own stupidity, the more people will do stupid things. There should be danger in life. There should be choice in life. People should be forced to make the responsible choice, the safe choice, the correct choice. Only then will people be less accustomed to the government being there at turn to protect them.

You can only shelter people for so long before they find out the hard way that the real world can be cruel. I say throw people to the wolves and force them to make smart choices in life. Not all will do so and that's sad, but the world is probably a better place without those people (although in this case, the stupid person happened to take two innocent kids with her, and that's truly sad).


+1

[curtis]

I suppose you think that racing a train is what a sane person would do.

God help us all.

Why ?

Because it was a crass comment to make without even a semblance of truth to it.

[Oni-kun]

This thread is made of fail. :rolleyes:

epic fail

[YnD]

http://www.emmitsburg.net/humor/pictures/2002/WomanDriver1.jpg

[TapemanPL]

is she going to be charged for this?

[kleptodathief]

from that video shown...it didn't look like the minivan got hit? unless im blind as a bat:confused: course shes a Fing moron to try to outrace the trains, so ironic she'll live and half her kids die..i can hear them in the van screaming...:mad:

[D-Roc]

The truth hurts. Why hide it?



There is no truth within your previous statement. There is, however, a lack of compassion.

[D-Roc]

I think the replies in here are funny in a telling way.

The megaphones with keyboards immediately going to the default answer (TRAGEDY TRAGEDY, HOW DARE YOU, COLUMBINE, THINK OF THE CHILDREN)

Intelligent Parents seeing themselves in the same situation - which is why they can't see how extreme or outrageous this behavior may seem in our situation. Without the sense of extreme or outrageousness, this can only be termed a tragedy.

The rest of us who have a measured response, for or against the humor of the situation.

Anyway I've said my peace, I think it is tragic what happened to the children and have made emails asking how to donate for their funeral.

I wonder how many of you have done the same. :idea:

See this is where you are wrong. It is not only parents on this thread who can see this as a tragedy where you can not. You may call us "megaphones with keyboards" but the fact is, if decent people who find see this situation for what it is, allow sick, immature and demented people like you continue with your train of thought without calling you on it, you may never be able to correct your thought process.

I see where some people have said they are laughing in disbelief and saying that is how they find it humourous. Laughing in disbelief is more of a reaction when one can not find the logic about a situation that occurred or understand it. Not that it was humourous. If you are laughing in disbelief, then I suggest you refrain from using the terms humourous or funny as you give people the wrong impression.

Now I again ask you Solider Boy. What do you think the reaction would be if you explained to the surviving kids, the mother if she survives, and the spouse or father of the kids, that you found this funny.


Oh and btw. I am glad to see that you donated to the kids funeral fund

[poedua]

I suppose you think that racing a train is what a sane person would do.

God help us all.


Arriving at an erroneous conclusion based on illogical reasoning - yet again.:rolleyes:

[akito925]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-traindeath_websep07,1,975134.story

When I saw they wanted funeral cost donations, I thought it was a troll. I am LOLing at the Darwin award-worthy thought process.

"I either wait 2 minutes, or I risk the lives of 4 children trying to run two trains. Ah, screw it, if they can do it in the movies..."

I am glad her sons survived at least, I hope their expressed genes are from their dad's side.

As for funeral costs, I will not be contributing to her funeral costs if she dies. She should ride the train to eternity in a ditch somewhere. However, I might send a few bucks for the daughters.


poor kids.... so young.. so much to learn what a trageity.

[Lonely Soldier Boy]

Time for every hypocrite on this board to cry poverty. I'll be finding a way to send 20 bucks, how about all of the holier-than-thou types? I look forward to the scattered whining, the "THAT IS DIFFERENT" ********, and the one or two of you with principle that will go ahead and do the same (IE: send a small, reasonable amount in the hopes that it will convince more people to do so).

P.S. - I wonder why none of you bothered asking about this info?

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That is very kind of you. The only information I have is the following. Try giving them a call.

Donations to the family can be made at the following places:
-Centier Bank in care of Crystal and Anahi Bolanos
-Angela Ledesma at the Quality Inn, Hammond, IN
-Norma's Kiddie Care Center, 1318 W. 142nd St., E. Chicago, IN

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxxxxxx [mailto: xxx@xxx.com]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:35 PM
To: Fitzsimmons, Emma
Subject: Donations for the funeral via internet?


Ms. Fitzsimmons,

Is there a way for us Internet denizens to donate for the funeral of the
children killed in the crash between the SUV and the rail tracks? I
know some people who were very much touched by their plight and I am
sure some of them would be willing to donate some small amount; with
enough of them, the costs may be covered.

Thanking you in advance,

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Diamondog]

Time for every hypocrite on this board to cry poverty. I'll be finding a way to send 20 bucks, how about all of the holier-than-thou types? I look forward to the scattered whining, the "THAT IS DIFFERENT" ********, and the one or two of you with principle that will go ahead and do the same (IE: send a small, reasonable amount in the hopes that it will convince more people to do so).

P.S. - I wonder why none of you bothered asking about this info?

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That is very kind of you. The only information I have is the following. Try giving them a call.

Donations to the family can be made at the following places:
-Centier Bank in care of Crystal and Anahi Bolanos
-Angela Ledesma at the Quality Inn, Hammond, IN
-Norma's Kiddie Care Center, 1318 W. 142nd St., E. Chicago, IN

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxxxxxx [mailto: xxx@xxx.com]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:35 PM
To: Fitzsimmons, Emma
Subject: Donations for the funeral via internet?


Ms. Fitzsimmons,

Is there a way for us Internet denizens to donate for the funeral of the
children killed in the crash between the SUV and the rail tracks? I
know some people who were very much touched by their plight and I am
sure some of them would be willing to donate some small amount; with
enough of them, the costs may be covered.

Thanking you in advance,

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Give me a break sending $20...it's those who don't announce their intentions that are heroes...you are just silly....do yourself a favor and find a good charity to give to to help a needy child somewhere that's won't die because they got fed or got medicine.

[curtis]

I see your mind has trouble examining anything more than the words placed in front of you.

So let's see, hm... how many people do we see racing trains in a parking lot, proceed to cut through a red warning light with a train bearing down on them from both directions...

Perhaps you've watched too many movies. If this is not a mentally handicapped person, then indeed, let's hope there is a god.

Clearly, her interest in the safety of her children was severly lacking. This is no different from her shopping because she had the urge while her children sat locked up in the vehicle on a hot day.

Perhaps you need some more confidence - time to visit the fitness forum, huh?

9,000 posts is no easy feat.

Arriving at an erroneous conclusion based on illogical reasoning - yet again.:rolleyes:

[D-Roc]

Time for every hypocrite on this board to cry poverty. I'll be finding a way to send 20 bucks, how about all of the holier-than-thou types? I look forward to the scattered whining, the "THAT IS DIFFERENT" ********, and the one or two of you with principle that will go ahead and do the same (IE: send a small, reasonable amount in the hopes that it will convince more people to do so).

P.S. - I wonder why none of you bothered asking about this info?

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That is very kind of you. The only information I have is the following. Try giving them a call.

Donations to the family can be made at the following places:
-Centier Bank in care of Crystal and Anahi Bolanos
-Angela Ledesma at the Quality Inn, Hammond, IN
-Norma's Kiddie Care Center, 1318 W. 142nd St., E. Chicago, IN

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxxxxxx [mailto: xxx@xxx.com]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:35 PM
To: Fitzsimmons, Emma
Subject: Donations for the funeral via internet?


Ms. Fitzsimmons,

Is there a way for us Internet denizens to donate for the funeral of the
children killed in the crash between the SUV and the rail tracks? I
know some people who were very much touched by their plight and I am
sure some of them would be willing to donate some small amount; with
enough of them, the costs may be covered.

Thanking you in advance,

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Donating to the funeral still doesn't absolve you of being a sick jerk. Many people here I am sure donate money and their time to worthy charities through out the year. Just because they may not donate to this funeral does not make them hypocrites. No one here pledged to donate a thing.

[kgen]

See this is where you are wrong. It is not only parents on this thread who can see this as a tragedy where you can not. You may call us "megaphones with keyboards" but the fact is, if decent people who find see this situation for what it is, allow sick, immature and demented people like you continue with your train of thought without calling you on it, you may never be able to correct your thought process.

I see where some people have said they are laughing in disbelief and saying that is how they find it humourous. Laughing in disbelief is more of a reaction when one can not find the logic about a situation that occurred or understand it. Not that it was humourous. If you are laughing in disbelief, then I suggest you refrain from using the terms humourous or funny as you give people the wrong impression.

Now I again ask you Solider Boy. What do you think the reaction would be if you explained to the surviving kids, the mother if she survives, and the spouse or father of the kids, that you found this funny.


Oh and btw. I am glad to see that you donated to the kids funeral fund

Who the hell are you to tell the rest of us how to feel?

[D-Roc]

Who the hell are you to tell the rest of us how to feel?

Not telling anyone how they should feel. I am just voicing my disgust at those who get a chuckle from situations like this.

[curtis]

Ok, I never thought I'd do this. I think I've made my point, but the last bit was uncalled for.

I do agree with most people, public advertisement of amusement from such an event is not appropriate.

I see your mind has trouble examining anything more than the words placed in front of you.

So let's see, hm... how many people do we see racing trains in a parking lot, proceed to cut through a red warning light with a train bearing down on them from both directions...

Perhaps you've watched too many movies. If this is not a mentally handicapped person, then indeed, let's hope there is a god.

Clearly, her interest in the safety of her children was severly lacking. This is no different from her shopping because she had the urge while her children sat locked up in the vehicle on a hot day.

Perhaps you need some more confidence - time to visit the fitness forum, huh?

9,000 posts is no easy feat.

[Ojam]

Wow, this thread is PATHETIC.

To those arguing what somebody else finds humorous, do you think you are really showing your all high and mighty maturity by taking a thread off track? And accusing LSB of having a sick sense of humor rather then talking about this "tragedy" You all need to go get your selves ZJs and just chill the **** out.

/End thread

[xpoint9]

Video:
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/09/07/pkg.mom.train.cnn

[ryyeung]

Wow, this thread is PATHETIC.

To those arguing what somebody else finds humorous, do you think you are really showing your all high and mighty maturity by taking a thread off track? And accusing LSB of having a sick sense of humor rather then talking about this "tragedy" You all need to go get your selves ZJs and just chill the **** out.

/End thread

+1, best post of this pointless thread!

No point telling a faceless OP (Lonely Soldier Boy) about ethics and what should be funny and not. At least is willing to give some money to donations. Just b/c you say this tragedy is not funny, are you doing anything to prevent this in the future???

Personally, I volunteer in those neighbourhood watches where citizens track your speed, especially around school zones, and report to the RCMP as to where to beef up enforcement.

[pham12h]

I bet the OP thinks 9/11 was a hoot as well. Or if something similar happened to one of his family members, how amusing would it be for him. Hmmm I'm sure one day karma will come back to haunt him.

Don't you find it morbidly amusing that someone cares so little about the lives of their children that they would try to race a train to save a few minutes?

And yes it is commendable that he donates, but the title of this thread is "Idiot soccer mom races..and kills 2 kids.. LOL". I don't think his original intent in starting this thread was to tell people to donate, it was obviously intended to spread the supposed hilarity. Oh notice now that he goes back to the original post and changes the story to include donations?(he edited the post yesterday) Totally different original post with different tone.

People do their part to help out.. which is great.. even better if they didnt tell people how good their actions are or point fingers at others for inaction.

[ryyeung]

[QUOTE=pham12h;5593448]I bet the OP thinks 9/11 was a hoot as well. Or if something similar happened to one of his family members, how amusing would it be for him. Hmmm I'm sure one day karma will come back to haunt him.


[QUOTE]

so now you're projecting that b/c OP originally posted the title with LOL, that he thinks all tragedy is funny. Get a life u little punk Pham.

He DID change the title. I hope Karma comes back to haunt u for being a coward and jumping on OP along with other posters. He explained his reasoning, live with it.

[Mgz]

in before lock

and hopefully more people will watch CNN/this video and learn from others' mistakes

[hot_potato]

She would have made it, if she hadnt moved her car to the left prior to getting to the rail, thus delaying the crossing by several seconds. Why she did that I cant really tell from the video

I think the car went left because there was a curb there (it's a parking lot, after all), so she had to go left and make a U-turn around the curb onto the road that led to the railway crossing. If there wasn't a curb, she could have just made a right and beat the train. I think a much bigger engine in the vehicle would have prevented this tragedy..

[kleptodathief]

any update on this dumass soccer mom? RIP?

[stevethewheel]

I think she had done this many times before. It's a commuter train and things in the commuter parking lot tend to repitition. The course that she drove looked deliberate/thought out and she had to turn her back to the train while doing the turning loop....I doubt anyone would turn their back and then come out of the turn hard charging and not hit the brakes unless they had done it before and had that sense of confidence.

Maybe one of the occupants took a few seconds longer than usual to get in and settled, or someone was in her way when getting underway that delayed her by a few seconds. Perhaps the train got back in motion faster than normal. Maybe the train from the opposite direction was unexpected and distracted her.

I'm not excusing it, just trying to explain to myself why someone would try something that appears to be so stupid with a vanload of kids, while they had a good view of the timing of the train.

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LSB - I think people are reacting to the level of detachment you must have in order to find the situation humourous.

[pham12h]

so now you're projecting that b/c OP originally posted the title with LOL, that he thinks all tragedy is funny. Get a life u little punk Pham.

He DID change the title. I hope Karma comes back to haunt u for being a coward and jumping on OP along with other posters. He explained his reasoning, live with it.



LOOOL... wow glad to see we have such fine people on rfd.. reduced to calling people names.. oh wow, little punk.. thanks man, you just made my day.. *wipes tears from laughing so hard*

Well since you admire LSB I'll just let you and him have your alone time hehe.

What's it to you anyhow, LSB doesn't need you to come to his defense.. not that you're doing a fine job of that, but that is beside the point.

It is eminently funny.

Humor derives from extremes. The same way that people find comedians like George Carlin funny, I find this hilarious.

Here let me lay it out to you. If some came to me and told me that they ran a railtrack, I would think they were the stupidest people on the planet.

If they told me they did it in a car on top of that, I would think they would be even stupider.

On top of that, on a minivan/suv, even worse (harder to escape the barriers coming down)

ON TOP OF THAT, with a child in the back - even worse.

ON TOP OF THAT WITH 4 CHILDREN IN THE BACK, WITH TWO OF THEM BEING KILLED: so utterly horrible that it defies human reason and reaches the realm of being funny.

Go and re-read the first page, and you will see LSB's first few replies... where is it that he mentions mourning for the kids, donating... all he can talk about is how funny it is. It doesn't take an english major to figure out what his message was, but then again u seem to be the exception yeung.

[caliente]

LSB - I think people are reacting to the level of detachment you must have in order to find the situation humourous.

From my psychology class. Classified as a mature ego defense mechanism to psychological stress. Humour = seeing the amusing nature of an anxiety-provoking or adverse situation.

I understand where the OP is coming from. He doesn't find it joyfully humourous, but rather tragically and morbidly so. But yeah, many people don't view the world in this detached manner, and maybe the OP wouldn't have mentioned this aloud in real life (as opposed to the internet which causes people to abandon their normal filters).

[elty]

From my psychology class. Classified as a mature ego defense mechanism to psychological stress. Humour = seeing the amusing nature of an anxiety-provoking or adverse situation.

I understand where the OP is coming from. He doesn't find it joyfully humourous, but rather tragically and morbidly so. But yeah, many people don't view the world in this detached manner, and maybe the OP wouldn't have mentioned this aloud in real life (as opposed to the internet which causes people to abandon their normal filters).

I agree.... There are probably millions of people dying every day, are you going to mourn every single one of them? This accident is full of stupidity, just unfortunately it also has a tragic outcome....

[EGee6]

Perhaps, but I think you misunderstand the laughter. It's not a "OMG this is so great and funny, lol" laugh, it's more of a "What the hell is wrong with people?" laugh.

I'm not laughing at what happened or the aftermath of what happened, that is of itself very sad. I'm laughing at how people can do things that just seem so incredibly daft and reckless.

However, if you feel you need to place yourself on a higher pedestal then myself feel free.

Well said

The mother is an idiot and I hope she dies in a fire. What the f*ck was the stupid ***** thinking about? Who the hell tries to outrun a TRAIN with a car full of children? :confused:

[Instagator]

He doesn't find it joyfully humourous, but rather tragically and morbidly so

I'm with him on this one.
I lol'ed but at the stupidity side of this issue.

Kids died because of an "adult" attempting to race a train. Who DID NOT see this result coming? Like seriously.

I think you guys should relax on the OP.
People have different ways reacting to certain situations, I lol all the time at things that i shouldn't have. I ain't gonna change the way i am cuz people don't like that. Who cares. With the amount of **** on the internet why are you guys surprised and disgusted when someone laughs at this kind of stuff. Morals ain't what they used to be.

I thinks you guys need to get out more and have less useless agruments about this stuff.

[i6s1]

Maybe the train from the opposite direction was unexpected and distracted her.



Here's what I think happened. I don't think she even saw the train on the left. I think she was looking right during the last few seconds, and was going to beat the train on the right, but she didn't look left. And I don't think she would have hit the train on the right if the train on the left didn't throw her into it.

She beat the train she was racing, she didn't beat the one she didn't see.

I think.