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awesome-o
Jul 30th, 2007, 04:35 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/news_story.asp?ID=215065&hubName=main
Could be bad for the raps. Pierce, Allen, KG + 2 scrubs make a fearsome starting five...fortunately for us, their bench is obliterated.
TechRock
Jul 30th, 2007, 04:37 PM
oh man.....Raps is going to have a hard time getting into the playoffs
T-DOT
Jul 30th, 2007, 04:39 PM
This topis is being discussed in the Raptors thread. Anyways, this is the latest...
"The trade that would make Kevin Garnett a Celtic has not been finalized and the Timberwolves have said they won't do the deal if Al Jefferson is not included.
As the trade stands now, the Celtics would send Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, Gerald Green, Sebastian Telfair, Theo Ratliff and two future first-round picks to the Timberwolves for Garnett. Garnett's $24 million player option is likely a sticking point, as is a 15 percent trade kicker which must be paid in real cash at the time of the deal. According to multiple league sources, Garnett must agree to waive a portion of the trade kicker worth approximately $6.75 million. If Garnett agrees to that contingency, then he would have some additional leverage in restructuring his current contract. It's also come to light that KG is on a cruise until the end of the week, meaning it's unknown as to when the deal might become official, if at all."
kevin01
Jul 30th, 2007, 05:10 PM
This is just bad for the raptors...... for the next 2-3 years at least. We are not going to win a championship in 2 years, but we will still be young and a contender for years.
Boston however, will be a contender for the next 2-3 years, and then they have nobody on their team. No young players, nothing.
Paranoidandroid
Jul 30th, 2007, 05:19 PM
This is just bad for the raptors...... for the next 2-3 years at least. We are not going to win a championship in 2 years
Oh no! You mean we're not going to win rings anytime soon now that Celtics have a stronger roster? :rolleyes:
I just hope I live to see the Raptors in the finals.
M.D.
Jul 30th, 2007, 05:25 PM
It's not bad for the Raptors this upcoming season if they do get KG.
You have to remember the Raps were last year's division champs and I'm pretty sure they'll still get 40+ wins this season again. They'll make the playoffs but its questionable if they'll become division champs again because in their division, any team can take it. It's probably going to be close between the Knicks, Nets and Raps.
Liquid
Jul 30th, 2007, 05:25 PM
I don't understand why people are freaking out.. I'm a huge KG fan and kind of excited about this basically being a done deal and him being with Ray Allen and Paul Pierce.. but the Raptors will be just fine ;)
T-DOT
Jul 30th, 2007, 05:27 PM
"According to a Celtics official, Kevin Garnett has been traded to Boston.
Among the players thought to be headed to Minnesota are forward Al Jefferson, guard Sebastian Telfair, swingman Gerald Green and center Theo Ratliff, said the official. He also said the Timberwolves would get at least one draft choice. It had been reported throughout the day that Ryan Gomes and two No. 1 draft choices would be included in the deal, but as of now, it sounds like Gomes is staying with the Celtics. Details of the trade are still being worked out and it is not official, but the source said that none of those issues should keep the Celtics from acquiring Garnett, who is currently on a cruise vacation. However, there could be a change in the players going to Minnesota. There was a chance that a conference call announcing the trade would be held Monday, the official said."
Izzoshady
Jul 30th, 2007, 05:35 PM
The Atlantic Division winner will be the team that has the least injuries throughout the season.
The way I see it most of the teams in the Atlantic are pretty even in terms of talent...the exception being Philly.
Boston will have three solid veterans and are mortgaging their future on the assumption that these 3 will "click".
The Raptors & Nets on the other hand have a very strong core of players and a lot of depth and can continue on a very high level for years to come
New York is the wild card but I predict that they will be 10+ games better than last year
frogger
Jul 30th, 2007, 05:35 PM
I've read conflicting reports about whether one or both of Jefferson and Rondo are being included.
If they keep those two, then they are in very good shape, though I don't know how they'll pay Jefferson when he's due for more $$.
Ix2L
Jul 30th, 2007, 05:49 PM
bosh is no longer a starter on the all-star team
M.D.
Jul 30th, 2007, 05:50 PM
bosh is no longer a starter on the all-star team
you're right! nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..............
Izzoshady
Jul 30th, 2007, 06:07 PM
bosh is no longer a starter on the all-star team
Not necessarily. Injuries could change the entire make up of the all star team
Liquid
Jul 30th, 2007, 06:09 PM
I think this pretty much describes everything:
Kevin Garnett: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/cinqtu/icon_mad.gif
Paul Pierce: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/cinqtu/icon_ang.gif
Ray Allen: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/cinqtu/icon_biggrin.gif
Danny Ainge: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/cinqtu/icon_cool.gif
A few Raptors fans: :(
Celtics Fans: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/cinqtu/icon_ip2.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/cinqtu/clap.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/cinqtu/icon_ip2.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/cinqtu/clap.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/cinqtu/icon_ip2.gif
Ix2L
Jul 30th, 2007, 06:50 PM
Not necessarily. Injuries could change the entire make up of the all star team
Are we talking about the same Kevin Garnett?
This is one of the best trio's, certainly up there with Nash, Marion, and Amare.
This is going to be an exciting season but I just don't see the raptors winning more than 45 games this season with the improvement of the east.
bokep
Jul 30th, 2007, 09:33 PM
we'll be fine
maebach
Jul 30th, 2007, 10:31 PM
This is just bad for the raptors...... for the next 2-3 years at least. We are not going to win a championship in 2 years, but we will still be young and a contender for years.
Boston however, will be a contender for the next 2-3 years, and then they have nobody on their team. No young players, nothing.
word. RAps hopes of winning the division in the next few years looks slim if this goes through
bobbings
Jul 30th, 2007, 11:05 PM
Are we talking about the same Kevin Garnett?
This is one of the best trio's, certainly up there with Nash, Marion, and Amare.
This is going to be an exciting season but I just don't see the raptors winning more than 45 games this season with the improvement of the east.
even though other eastern teams have improved greatly, the raps will improve with the core from last season, they already click together from last year and will carry that over. We know that the raps will fare well against other eastern teams whereas we still don't know whether the celtics with the addition of allen and garnett can work together with pierce. in terms of the knicks, they will improve but with isiah thomas, i don't know if they'll do well...
YnD
Jul 30th, 2007, 11:36 PM
Ray Allen = Delonte West, Wally Szcerbiak, Jeff Green (this years pick)
Garnett =Al Jefferson, Sebastian Telfair, Gerald Green, Theo Ratliff + A draft pick
What the hell is Boston doing to their team? This is desperation...Their future is messed...If any of Pierce, Garnett, and Allen get injured...they screwed themselves...
AND they have literally NO bench after this trade...
And who the hell is gonna run the point guard position? RONDO??? lol...
Good fantasy value again for Garnett...he'll be playing the entire game...
Liquid
Jul 31st, 2007, 12:20 AM
Ray Allen = Delonte West, Wally Szcerbiak, Jeff Green (this years pick)
Garnett =Al Jefferson, Sebastian Telfair, Gerald Green, Theo Ratliff + A draft pick
What the hell is Boston doing to their team? This is desperation...Their future is messed...If any of Pierce, Garnett, and Allen get injured...they screwed themselves...
AND they have literally NO bench after this trade...
And who the hell is gonna run the point guard position? RONDO??? lol...
Good fantasy value again for Garnett...he'll be playing the entire game...
It's still the off season and the Celtics still have some money to spend, so maybe they might pick up a NBA-hungry veteran who would sign for minimum.
SoGood
Jul 31st, 2007, 12:58 AM
Are we talking about the same Kevin Garnett?
This is one of the best trio's, certainly up there with Nash, Marion, and Amare.
This is going to be an exciting season but I just don't see the raptors winning more than 45 games this season with the improvement of the east.
nash, marion, amare > pierce,allen, KG
all 3 on the celtics are scores...unless somebody is willing to take 15pts a game instead of their 20+....
and rondo doesn't seem like the type of PG to hand out assists...not the best PG for the current make up of the team maybe if they keep telfair, he can pass it all day long to those 3....and as a previous poster said, 1 injury to any of those 3, and they'll be done
gman
Jul 31st, 2007, 01:14 AM
Somehow, I have a feeling that Celtics will be the next Knicks.
kevin01
Jul 31st, 2007, 02:55 AM
Teams in the east did get better, while Toronto did not. The thing is, Toronto was a great team to begin with, and these teams who are getting better were bottom-dwellers in the east last season. They have nowhere to go but up.
Chicago
Boston
Washington
Orlando
Toronto
New Jersey
Detroit
Miami
Cleveland
All these teams have a good shot at the playoffs. Gonna be tough for the raps.
For Boston, This deal does look good, but Boston loses a total of almost 13 points a game and 2 rebounds a game with this trade.
But still, it's KG.....
And Ray Allen
And Paul Pierce
rdtx2002
Jul 31st, 2007, 08:50 AM
http://www.tsn.ca/news_story.asp?ID=215065&hubName=main
Could be bad for the raps. Pierce, Allen, KG + 2 scrubs make a fearsome starting five...fortunately for us, their bench is obliterated.
how do 2 scrubs make an fearsome starting 5.. are you on drugs?
kleptodathief
Jul 31st, 2007, 09:54 AM
ya, whos the 2 other ...if they get decent players to back up those 3...im sure they will b the BEAST IN THE EAST!!! jump on the irish band wagon!!!
so they basically traded everyone on their team to get KG lol
rdtx2002
Jul 31st, 2007, 10:01 AM
so they basically traded everyone on their team to get KG lol
correction.. they traded everyone on their team to get KG and Ray Allen
ji2o0k
Jul 31st, 2007, 10:21 AM
correction.. they traded everyone on their team to get KG and Ray Allen
correction...........they traded everyone on their team and their future to get KG and Ray Allen..
Capt.
Jul 31st, 2007, 10:30 AM
They haven't demolished their team completely. Tony Allen had a bad injury last year but he was having a solid season with pretty good numbers and could possibly run the point when healthy. Ryan Gomes is a strong young guy with a lot of upside too. Then distribute the rest of the minutes to Rondo, Perkins, and maybe even Glen Davis and they should be alright.
Already that's an 8 man rotation with 3 of them being powerhouse players who can easily play 35-40 minutes a game.
maebach
Jul 31st, 2007, 10:59 AM
correction...........they traded everyone on their team and their future to get KG and Ray Allen..
indeed. Those 3 players alone can get like 70+ PPG together. Im sure the bench can scramble another 20
They haven't demolished their team completely. Tony Allen had a bad injury last year but he was having a solid season with pretty good numbers and could possibly run the point when healthy. Ryan Gomes is a strong young guy with a lot of upside too. Then distribute the rest of the minutes to Rondo, Perkins, and maybe even Glen Davis and they should be alright.
Already that's an 8 man rotation with 3 of them being powerhouse players who can easily play 35-40 minutes a game.
Im not sure if Id play Pierce or Allen for 40 mins. 35ish seems better for them. Boston needs them healthy for the whole season.
SoGood
Jul 31st, 2007, 11:19 AM
They haven't demolished their team completely. Tony Allen had a bad injury last year but he was having a solid season with pretty good numbers and could possibly run the point when healthy. Ryan Gomes is a strong young guy with a lot of upside too. Then distribute the rest of the minutes to Rondo, Perkins, and maybe even Glen Davis and they should be alright.
Already that's an 8 man rotation with 3 of them being powerhouse players who can easily play 35-40 minutes a game.
ROLF....as long as he doesn't try to dunk after the whistle he should be a solid back up to the wing positions, i don't see him as a PG
T-DOT
Jul 31st, 2007, 02:34 PM
"Kevin Garnett is now a member of the Boston Celtics, according to FoxSports.
While the deal won't formally be official until Tuesday afternoon, Celtics
spokesman Jeff Twiss says that Garnett is scheduled to be introduced at a news conference at 5:30 p.m. ET on Tuesday. Minnesota will reportedly send Garnett to Boston for Al Jefferson, Theo Ratliff and his expiring contract, Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair and a pair of 2009 first-round picks. The Celtics' draft pick will be top-three protected and the other pick will be the one Minnesota originally dealt to Boston in the trade that sent Ricky Davis to the T'Wolves for Wally Szczerbiak. Garnett will also sign a three-year extension with the Celtics and has two years left on his current deal. The Celtics, with a starting lineup of Rajon Rondo, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Garnett and Kendrick Perkins will now be a favorite to win the East."
ji2o0k
Jul 31st, 2007, 02:44 PM
curious, what happened to Ratliff last season?
Was he injured? I look on NBA.com, looks like he played 2 games but doesn't say why.
**Edit - nvm..........looks like he had surgery for a herniated disc...
awesome-o
Jul 31st, 2007, 02:44 PM
how do 2 scrubs make an fearsome starting 5.. are you on drugs?
way to miss the point entirely. if these 3 guys gel on the court, you could have zan tabak as PG and still be deadly
aturk99
Jul 31st, 2007, 02:55 PM
Boston is going to be a deadly team there saying the starting 5 is going to be Rondo, Pierce Allen, Garnet, And Davis. If he matures through summer camp as there projecting. Since he was once projected to be the next Shaq. I have always been a Raptors fan but loved the Celtics now finally they have a team. Hopefully the Raptors and Celtics both make the playoffs and make it an interesting division. As i dont seen the knicks being able to combine there players.
thelefteyeguy
Jul 31st, 2007, 03:49 PM
Celtics lose one on an injury...they are toast
rdtx2002
Jul 31st, 2007, 04:54 PM
way to miss the point entirely. if these 3 guys gel on the court, you could have zan tabak as PG and still be deadly
no they won't. and I didn't miss the point entirely. I just think your point is utterly silly.
rdtx2002
Jul 31st, 2007, 04:55 PM
Boston is going to be a deadly team there saying the starting 5 is going to be Rondo, Pierce Allen, Garnet, And Davis. If he matures through summer camp as there projecting. Since he was once projected to be the next Shaq. I have always been a Raptors fan but loved the Celtics now finally they have a team. Hopefully the Raptors and Celtics both make the playoffs and make it an interesting division. As i dont seen the knicks being able to combine there players.
Big Baby will never be Shaq.. he'll be a Tractor Traylor at best.. perhaps an Oliver Miller ;)
awesome-o
Jul 31st, 2007, 05:00 PM
no they won't. and I didn't miss the point entirely. I just think your point is utterly silly.
you're right, 3 all-stars playing well together isn't a force to be reckoned with at all.
Capt.
Jul 31st, 2007, 05:28 PM
Nevermind 3 all-stars, we're talking about arguably 3 of the top 10-15 players in the league. KG is obviously a beast, Ray Allen is the smoothest shooter in the game today and Pierce is an underrated workhorse who is capable of 25, 5& 5 every game.
jayisthebest88
Jul 31st, 2007, 05:31 PM
Big Baby will never be Shaq.. he'll be a Tractor Traylor at best.. perhaps an Oliver Miller ;)
is he comes even close to oliver millers skill level, the Boston Celtics will win the NBA championship.......
Giving up Ratliff, Telfair, Gerald Green is not that much of a blow to the celtics, They already gave up on telfair, and also I think they were planning to release him due to his legal troubles, also Gerald Green has shown no improvement since his rookie year, and its looking more and more like he will be a bust.
Obviously, they are giving up a future all star in Al Jefferson, and giving Ryan Gomes hurts because he is such a solid player, and also the 2 first rounders, whic will probably be in the mid 20's.
Right now they have no depth at all and they will ahev to sign some veterans or some players for the minimum to add some depth
PG-Rajon Rondo, Gabe Pruitt
SG-Ray Allen, Tony Allen
SF-Paul Peirce
PF-Kevin Garnett,
C-Kedrick Perkins, Glenn Davis
I say they sign Marcus Haislip over from Europe, and maybe sign a Brevin Knight, Charlie Bell type of player.
If they cant get haislip, maybe sign PJ Brown?
Liquid
Jul 31st, 2007, 05:54 PM
For anyone wanting to watch the Press Conference its streaming live right now
http://media.myfoxtwincities.com/livestream/web_channel/index.htm
Majestic
Jul 31st, 2007, 07:34 PM
Forget Garnett. Boston's chances ended the moment they decided to split up the hall-of-fame Ray Allen/Allan Ray backcourt.
sayian_gohon
Jul 31st, 2007, 08:38 PM
you're right, 3 all-stars playing well together isn't a force to be reckoned with at all.
I agree, doesn't anyone think that these 3 all-stars might not mix? The New York Knicks had many superstars a few years back and they didn't do well together
maebach
Jul 31st, 2007, 08:46 PM
On ESPN, they said that before teh Garnett trade, the odds of them winning the championship was 72-1, now its 15-1. I know that its just statistics, but hey, thats a huge jump.
rdtx2002
Jul 31st, 2007, 10:17 PM
you're right, 3 all-stars playing well together isn't a force to be reckoned with at all.
there are 15 guys on the team.. and 5 players on the court..
if you think 3 All Star type players will beat regular contending teams.. you are in for a surprise.
maebach
Jul 31st, 2007, 10:47 PM
there are 15 guys on the team.. and 5 players on the court..
if you think 3 All Star type players will beat regular contending teams.. you are in for a surprise.
In all fairness, I remember (because Ima T-Wolves fan) that when Minnesota had Garnett, Sprewell and Cassell they didnt get far in teh playoffs. That finished I think 4 or 5 in standings in the west, and I think they lost to the Shaq/Bryant duo in the west semifinals. So, theres a chance these guys wont mix.
Liquid
Jul 31st, 2007, 11:56 PM
there are 15 guys on the team.. and 5 players on the court..
if you think 3 All Star type players will beat regular contending teams.. you are in for a surprise.
Considering how the Cavs got to the Finals with basically Lebron James and some extra help.. I'm sure Kevin Garnett (one of the best Players in the NBA), Paul Pierce (Top 20) and one of the best shooters in the NBA thats Ray Allen, will do just fine.. and its still the offseason, more players will be signed using the extra MLE and LLE. Add that to the fact that these are 3 franchise players on their own teams, never won a championship, not selfish in the least, and hungry to win and are more then willing to work for it to get there.
Some fans really surprise me..
SoGood
Aug 1st, 2007, 12:56 AM
In all fairness, I remember (because Ima T-Wolves fan) that when Minnesota had Garnett, Sprewell and Cassell they didnt get far in teh playoffs. That finished I think 4 or 5 in standings in the west, and I think they lost to the Shaq/Bryant duo in the west semifinals. So, theres a chance these guys wont mix.
it was west finals, and and 2 wins away from finals...so basically final 4 in the nba, and the celtics trio looks better on paper to me than the twolves trio back then
pierce and allen are perennial all stars, spree and cassell had an all star game or 2 each, but not perennial....and also at least to me, pierce and allen seem like more team players rather than spree and cassell who have the ME attitude.
carmaster
Aug 1st, 2007, 09:10 AM
The Celtics wil make it to the Eastern conference finals.
rdtx2002
Aug 1st, 2007, 09:31 AM
Considering how the Cavs got to the Finals with basically Lebron James and some extra help.. I'm sure Kevin Garnett (one of the best Players in the NBA), Paul Pierce (Top 20) and one of the best shooters in the NBA thats Ray Allen, will do just fine.. and its still the offseason, more players will be signed using the extra MLE and LLE. Add that to the fact that these are 3 franchise players on their own teams, never won a championship, not selfish in the least, and hungry to win and are more then willing to work for it to get there.
Some fans really surprise me..
Cavs have decent role players and a bench, something that the C's don't have. Whoever else they sign may be the key here, but who knows.
The Cavs may not have some other players like PP and Ray to compliment Lebron James.. but Larry Hughes and Big Z ain't no slouch.
carmaster
Aug 1st, 2007, 09:38 AM
The Celtics need three more things to become NBA champs:
1. A vetern point guard
2. Some more defensive players
3. A deeper bench
They will not get all three things before the start of the NBA season.
perplexed_one
Aug 1st, 2007, 10:04 AM
cant imagine garnett in anything but a wolves' jersey. all well, it should be interesting with the give and go between Pierce and him.
YnD
Aug 1st, 2007, 10:26 AM
The Celtics need three more things to become NBA champs:
1. A vetern point guard
2. Some more defensive players
3. A deeper bench
They will not get all three things before the start of the NBA season.
Mark my words... Tony Allen is going to kill it this year if healthy... if it wasn't for that improper landing that fcuked up his leg he woulda finished the year as the started....
cant imagine garnett in anything but a wolves' jersey. all well, it should be interesting with the give and go between Pierce and him.
Everyone said the same about A.I... but it happened...
awesome-o
Aug 1st, 2007, 11:08 AM
Everyone said the same about A.I... but it happened...
especially Jordan. that Wizards uniform never looked right
during the press conference, Doc Rivers said he wanted Mutombo on the team. this trade more and more reminds me of a video game trade where you throw everything a team to get their star player, then fill out the rest of your squad with free agents and made-up players.
too bad there's no setting to turn off injuries in season mode
T-DOT
Aug 1st, 2007, 11:11 AM
"The Celtics have suddenly become a prime destination for free agents and they are looking at four point guards and five big men as they try to find the right role players to support the "New Big 3."
The point guards on the table are Eddie House, Troy Hudson, Brevin Knight and Charlie Bell. Knight is the truest point guard of the bunch and despite rumors of him being trouble in the locker room, he has to be No. 1 on the list. And it's hard to imagine him being a problem in a locker room led by Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen. The C's are also interested in big men Dikembe Mutombo, P.J. Brown, Michael Ruffin, Calvin Booth and Scot Pollard."
SoGood
Aug 1st, 2007, 11:48 AM
"The Celtics have suddenly become a prime destination for free agents and they are looking at four point guards and five big men as they try to find the right role players to support the "New Big 3."
The point guards on the table are Eddie House, Troy Hudson, Brevin Knight and Charlie Bell. Knight is the truest point guard of the bunch and despite rumors of him being trouble in the locker room, he has to be No. 1 on the list. And it's hard to imagine him being a problem in a locker room led by Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen. The C's are also interested in big men Dikembe Mutombo, P.J. Brown, Michael Ruffin, Calvin Booth and Scot Pollard."
just throw it up!!!
i would give charlie bell a look, not the truest PG, but can share the ball and keep the D honest with his shot, eddie house and troy hudson seem like combo guards to me.
ji2o0k
Aug 1st, 2007, 12:06 PM
I would look at Mutumbo and PJ Brown for the veteran big men. Not sure if they would accept the veteran minimum...Pollard would do in a pinch as well.
Booth is a scrub.........that was paid big bucks.........Ruffian is just hilarious (THROW IT UP !!!)....
bobbings
Aug 1st, 2007, 03:37 PM
mutumbo is still playing? lol he's too old!
Liquid
Aug 1st, 2007, 04:01 PM
mutumbo is still playing? lol he's too old!
I wouldn't count Mutumbo out just yet, when Yao went out last year he did a pretty good job filling in for him last season.
bobbings
Aug 1st, 2007, 04:08 PM
I wouldn't count Mutumbo out just yet, when Yao went out last year he did a pretty good job filling in for him last season.
but the guy's got tons of injuries and he's plagued with a bad back? or was it ankle?
Liquid
Aug 1st, 2007, 04:27 PM
but the guy's got tons of injuries and he's plagued with a bad back? or was it ankle?
He's not really plagued with injuries, just a few minor things really. I know he would be a good role type player for the younger players on the team with his experience, and maybe even help out some players with his shot blocking and boxing out.
ji2o0k
Aug 1st, 2007, 04:38 PM
but the guy's got tons of injuries and he's plagued with a bad back? or was it ankle?
He's not really plagued with injuries, just a few minor things really. I know he would be a good role type player for the younger players on the team with his experience, and maybe even help out some players with his shot blocking and boxing out.
I think Mutumbo is effective if he doesn't log a lot of minutes. Yeah he is older, but still pretty good as long as he doesn't play many, many minutes.
Definitely a good role model for the young big men and helping them develop their game.
bobbings
Aug 1st, 2007, 04:48 PM
yeah, i guess i agree with you guys when you're talking about mutumbo being a good role model. he's probably got tons of good advice to give to those new guys. however, if we're talking about getting a pg, who would you guys get to complete the celtics line up? i don't think rebounding should be an issue if garnett can log the minutes, he'll get the rebounds, it's the pg situation that i don't know how boston is going to deal with.
Liquid
Aug 1st, 2007, 04:55 PM
I think Mutumbo is effective if he doesn't log a lot of minutes. Yeah he is older, but still pretty good as long as he doesn't play many, many minutes.
Definitely a good role model for the young big men and helping them develop their game.
I agree, and as long as he can play for about 15 minutes a game off the bench he would be a good signing.
yeah, i guess i agree with you guys when you're talking about mutumbo being a good role model. he's probably got tons of good advice to give to those new guys. however, if we're talking about getting a pg, who would you guys get to complete the celtics line up? i don't think rebounding should be an issue if garnett can log the minutes, he'll get the rebounds, it's the pg situation that i don't know how boston is going to deal with.
The Celtics just signed Eddie House as their backup PG, as well as Jackie Manuel from the D league.
http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/celtics/
krash322
Aug 1st, 2007, 06:14 PM
I dont think it will be that easy for Boston to walk through the East. Having three great players doesn't guarantee success. You still need role players and a bench. Even when Jordan was playing with Pippen, they still needed guys like John Paxson to knock down some shots. What Boston has right now, besides the big 3, is awful. Plus, they don't have enough salary cap room to get anymore decent guys. I think they have $11.8mil for 8 guys after subtracting the big 3. They could get a few ABA guys, maybe.
At least Bill Simmons is happy. :lol:
chadw01
Aug 1st, 2007, 09:14 PM
Boston will make the playoffs - you can take that to the bank.
KG will be reborn in Boston.
maebach
Aug 1st, 2007, 10:10 PM
Boston will make the playoffs - you can take that to the bank.
KG will be reborn in Boston.
You're making it sound like he's some monster, lol :lol:
bobbings
Aug 1st, 2007, 11:25 PM
Boston will make the playoffs - you can take that to the bank.
KG will be reborn in Boston.
the 3 all stars will probably score lower than their averages now that they are playing together. do you really expect them to take 15 to 20 shots a game and get 25 ppg? just like iverson who was averaging 30 ppg in philly and when he went to denver, his stats took a dip playing alongside melo. they'll definitely make the playoffs but how effective in the playoffs? only time will tell...
jayisthebest88
Aug 2nd, 2007, 12:42 AM
One thing you people fail to see is that these all stars are not that selfish. Ray Allen has played very successfully with a big 3 before( Ray Allen, Glenn Robinson, Sam Cassell) and Paul Peirce has had to play with Antoine Walker for a while.....Also, one criticism of Kevin Garnett was that he deferred to his team mates too much. Chemistry should not be an issue here, I can see Paul Peirce being the leading scorer, while Allen will see the biggest dip in his stats, especially his assist and rebound numbers. Kevin Garnett might see a slight dip in points per game, but his assists will go up slightly also,
chadw01
Aug 2nd, 2007, 12:53 AM
You're making it sound like he's some monster, lol :lol:
They don't call him the Big Ticket for nothing..
chadw01
Aug 2nd, 2007, 12:55 AM
the 3 all stars will probably score lower than their averages now that they are playing together. do you really expect them to take 15 to 20 shots a game and get 25 ppg? just like iverson who was averaging 30 ppg in philly and when he went to denver, his stats took a dip playing alongside melo. they'll definitely make the playoffs but how effective in the playoffs? only time will tell...
I predict they'll make it out of the first round at least. However, I really like the Bulls coming out of the East this upcoming season.. Bulls/Suns would make a great Finals series..
501
Aug 2nd, 2007, 01:02 AM
chemistry will be a factor between the 3 stars...
killuminati
Aug 2nd, 2007, 08:25 AM
chemistry will be a factor between the 3 stars...
I really dont think it will be a big deal for these guys. They are all SMART ballers who are 30+ and mature enough to deal with each other. They've been on weak teams their whole careers, they plain and simple want to win. Garnett wouldn't have waived his right to play in Boston if he didn't know what he was getting himself into.
They are also the perfect compliment of guys to be working together, they just really need a decent PG. Pierce and Allen only played like half the season last year so they'll be pretty fresh this season(Their teams were tanking I dont think they were that hurt). These guys are gonna be so recharged after this trade to actually put some effort into their season, it should be fun to watch them play.
bobbings
Aug 2nd, 2007, 10:21 AM
let's hope it's not another spurs vs pistons finals again...
Izzoshady
Aug 2nd, 2007, 11:20 AM
let's hope it's not another spurs vs pistons finals again...
Let's hope its not a Spurs don't even make it to the finals. I'm sick of seeing them in the finals
billdozer
Aug 2nd, 2007, 11:34 AM
Hi there,
What would you guys rank as the top-10 draft picks for fantasy basketball? KG or LBJ as top pick? Or Marion?
Jet Li-on...
thelefteyeguy
Aug 2nd, 2007, 12:24 PM
not that my opinion matters ...but I'd say they will sneak into the playoffs...but watchout...in the playoffs they break out.
Reg season is all about depth...cause injuries happen...I dont see the "big 3" playing together for every game. If one goes down it will be even worst than last year as they have totally depleted their youth depth.
If they sneak in...and all 3 are healthy in the playoffs...LOOK OUT
SoGood
Aug 2nd, 2007, 01:21 PM
not that my opinion matters ...but I'd say they will sneak into the playoffs...but watchout...in the playoffs they break out.
Reg season is all about depth...cause injuries happen...I dont see the "big 3" playing together for every game. If one goes down it will be even worst than last year as they have totally depleted their youth depth.
If they sneak in...and all 3 are healthy in the playoffs...LOOK OUT
if the big 3 plays about 40 mins a game during regular season even w/o injury, i wouldn't worry about them that much during playoffs, they'll start running outta gas...cuz in playoffs, they'll prolly have to up their mins to about 43-45....
krash322
Aug 2nd, 2007, 04:07 PM
Hi there,
What would you guys rank as the top-10 draft picks for fantasy basketball? KG or LBJ as top pick? Or Marion?
Jet Li-on...
LBJ is still #1 fantasy pick. He's gonna average 30/7/7 for you. That is outright sick. KG would be right up there, cuz he's gonna have to practically get all the boards by himself. Dirk is a top 5 pick too, along with Amare and Nash. Marion is top 10, but probably bottom half. Don't go for Oden or Durant. They'll do well in some areas, but will suffer in others. Peaks and valleys of a rookie. Don't forget Kobe. Watch out for continued development from Boozer and Deron Williams. They just might put up 20/10 for you.
aidzhsiah
Aug 3rd, 2007, 07:57 AM
Hi there,
What would you guys rank as the top-10 draft picks for fantasy basketball? KG or LBJ as top pick? Or Marion?
Jet Li-on...
LBJ would be concensus #1 if he could hit his FTs...as it is, I have him between Top 5 and Top 10. I think it's hard to nail down a concensus #1 this year. My Top 3 would be Dirk, Marion and KG (despite KG's hit in scoring in Boston). Wade and Kobe (assuming he stays in LA) round out the top 5. Brand, Nash, Arenas, LBJ and Yao round out my Top 10.
YnD
Aug 3rd, 2007, 10:08 AM
LBJ would be concensus #1 if he could hit his FTs...as it is, I have him between Top 5 and Top 10. I think it's hard to nail down a concensus #1 this year. My Top 3 would be Dirk, Marion and KG (despite KG's hit in scoring in Boston). Wade and Kobe (assuming he stays in LA) round out the top 5. Brand, Nash, Arenas, LBJ and Yao round out my Top 10.
Brand is not a top 10 man...I'd say somewhere between 11-15...
I'll agree with your choice of players...but the order will most likely follow Yahoos like usual..
Lebron/Garnett/Marion in the top 3 (no particular order)
Followed by like you said.... Dirk, Wade, Kobe, Arenas, Yao, Nash...(sort of that order)
Afterwards... its more random... like Bosh, Chris Paul, A.I (in no particular order)...
YnD
Aug 3rd, 2007, 10:09 AM
Let's hope its not a Spurs don't even make it to the finals. I'm sick of seeing them in the finals
They will make it again... as long as Duncan is playing...
He's clutch like Rivera pretty much is for the Yankees.
Btw... Duncan > Oden.
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