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GoW
Jul 20th, 2007, 05:59 PM
WASHINGTON - On a narrow, leafy street in Northwest Washington, where Prius hybrid cars and Volvos are the norm, one man bought a flashy gray Hummer that was too massive to fit in his garage.

So he parked the seven-foot-tall behemoth on the street in front of his house and smiled politely when his eco-friendly neighbors looked on in disapproval at his "dream car."

It lasted five days on the street before two masked men took a bat to every window, a knife to each 38-inch tire and scratched into the body: "FOR THE ENVIRON."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19818804/

trixstar
Jul 20th, 2007, 06:06 PM
wow.. only in america =) jkjk

did anyone see that top gear video when they cruised to alabama? :lol: :lol:

ricebowl
Jul 20th, 2007, 06:43 PM
lol that's jokes. saw some car show on tv, it said that the energy used and pollution caused to make a environmentally friendly/green car was greater than what it cost to make a hummer.

sixer
Jul 20th, 2007, 06:56 PM
Awesome! Hopefully he gets the message!

MrDisco
Jul 20th, 2007, 07:00 PM
It's completely wrong and if it were my dream car I would be incredibly distraught and angry.


I'm a little ashamed to admit though that I'm secretly cheering for the people who did it. :O

LegiT
Jul 20th, 2007, 07:05 PM
wow.. only in america =) jkjk

did anyone see that top gear video when they cruised to alabama? :lol: :lol:

Lol @ the part where Jeremy finds a dead cow and brings it back, and the hillbillies (or were they? Can't recall correctly) started threatening and chasing them, including the camera crew.

Awesome! Hopefully he gets the message!

That he should drive a Prius instead?
If he wants to drive his Hummer, let him. What gives those ecofreaks the right to vandalise his vehicle? They wouldn't like it if that happened to their 'environmental friendly' vehicles. Jerks that need a shank in the face.

Flyer
Jul 20th, 2007, 07:08 PM
I smell a lawsuit...

corrupt123
Jul 20th, 2007, 07:15 PM
Did he lift it? Or buy an H1? I dont remember a Hummer being 7' tall. Even the 38" wheels seem like military issue.

Badman
Jul 20th, 2007, 07:31 PM
Too bad now the hummer will be written off and be gone to the junk yard. Waste of materials. Nice going enviorment guys.

sixer
Jul 20th, 2007, 07:39 PM
That he should drive a Prius instead?
If he wants to drive his Hummer, let him. What gives those ecofreaks the right to vandalise his vehicle? They wouldn't like it if that happened to their 'environmental friendly' vehicles. Jerks that need a shank in the face.

No, but anything else is better then the worse gas guzzling vehicle in the world! Not to mention those things are small in the inside for how big they are. Ever been in one?

UrbanPoet
Jul 20th, 2007, 07:40 PM
i wonder did those environmental bafoons pick up the glass after they smashed the windows?
after all... That glass probably takes a long time to biodegrade.

GoW
Jul 20th, 2007, 09:46 PM
Man, I'm getting vibes that this is gonna turn into a pollution argument.

Ojam
Jul 20th, 2007, 10:01 PM
i wonder did those environmental bafoons pick up the glass after they smashed the windows?
after all... That glass probably takes a long time to biodegrade.

glass is a fairly environmentally friendly product.

mrG
Jul 20th, 2007, 11:05 PM
Not literally :(

king_george
Jul 20th, 2007, 11:23 PM
glass is a fairly environmentally friendly product.
Tempered glass (polyvinyl butyral polymer embedded) can not be recycled by normal means nor does it ever degrade.

Broken windshields are almost always headed for the landfill...:mad: Only very specialized places can recover the glass from them.

mealbundy
Jul 21st, 2007, 12:28 AM
why didn't they do this to military hummers? They're not environmentalists, just a bunch of unemployed woosies and chicken shiats with no responsibility. Someone with a job and a family to support does not have the time and energy to waste on petty crime. Hopefully the cops can find some dna from a piece of hair left behind.

bubble.tea
Jul 21st, 2007, 08:29 AM
Too bad now the hummer will be written off and be gone to the junk yard. Waste of materials. Nice going enviorment guys.

agreed.:)

UrbanPoet
Jul 21st, 2007, 08:43 AM
why didn't they do this to military hummers? They're not environmentalists, just a bunch of unemployed woosies and chicken shiats with no responsibility. Someone with a job and a family to support does not have the time and energy to waste on petty crime. Hopefully the cops can find some dna from a piece of hair left behind.

woah... too much csi there!
Most crimes are solved by eye witness accounts not forensics.

goob3r
Jul 21st, 2007, 10:17 AM
Not literally :(

I thought I would see pictures of a fire on top of a hummer.

temporary user
Jul 21st, 2007, 11:57 AM
Hmm, only $38k?
I would have thought it would cost more like $70k...

What's the gas consumption on this thing?

Empz
Jul 21st, 2007, 12:33 PM
If it only happened in Texas. I'd shoot the culprits if I was the owner, then they can be 'one with the earth'!!

These tree huggers are idiots! I can't respect them if they cannot respect the rights of others!


-E

Sylvestre
Jul 21st, 2007, 01:03 PM
meh, I'm betting the guy won't be buying another hummer :)

hyperion
Jul 21st, 2007, 02:08 PM
The guys who did it are my heroes (for this week).

just_For_ipod
Jul 21st, 2007, 07:29 PM
Anyone know where I can find lots of hummers in Toronto?

Why?

Oh no reason.

I might just want to go for a stroll with my friend there tonight...;)

But seriously, destroying the car was stupid!

if it was me I would steal it, sell it and use the money to plant a bunch of trees :D

nolimtzel
Jul 21st, 2007, 07:36 PM
Anyone know where I can find lots of hummers in Toronto?

Why?

Oh no reason.

I might just want to go for a stroll with my friend there tonight...;)

But seriously, destroying the car was stupid!

if it was me I would steal it, sell it and use the money to plant a bunch of trees :D

so ur gonna steal it and sell the hummer therefore somebody else will still use the hummer and pollute. and now the old owner gets a new one from the insurance company and we now have 2 hummers instead of 1. hey man did u ride the short bus to school?

Ojam
Jul 21st, 2007, 07:55 PM
so ur gonna steal it and sell the hummer therefore somebody else will still use the hummer and pollute. and now the old owner gets a new one from the insurance company and we now have 2 hummers instead of 1. hey man did u ride the short bus to school?

Your lack of understanding of sarcasm/humor indicates you (or "u") rode the short bus to school. :razz:

trixstar
Jul 21st, 2007, 09:49 PM
so ur gonna steal it and sell the hummer therefore somebody else will still use the hummer and pollute. and now the old owner gets a new one from the insurance company and we now have 2 hummers instead of 1. hey man did u ride the short bus to school?

:confused: :confused: :confused:

st7860
Jul 21st, 2007, 10:28 PM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tree+hugger

kkarlovitz
Jul 21st, 2007, 10:56 PM
Awesome! Hopefully he gets the message!

Eco-Nazis suck!

The guys who did it are my heroes (for this week).

You suck

Bullseye
Jul 23rd, 2007, 09:20 AM
While vandalism is stupid and indefensible, not to mention bad for the environment (tires, re-painting, etc), there is one positive aspect of this story. It's had lots of media exposure, and likely has helped to further the message that oversized vehicles will not earn buyers the ego boost they desire from people.

Like drunk driving and smoking, the best weapon against it is social stigmatization. Make it uncool to own such a vehicle, and you take away the main motivation people have to buy one. They buy these because they want attention and adoration from their family and friends, but if the mainstream thought starts to turn such that potential buyers feel like the people they want to impress may actually look DOWN on them for it, they will not do so.

I already see the tide turning on this, it's becoming hip to be green now, not just with tree huggers, but with much of the mainstream. If there is any redeeming quality of Hollywood types, it's that many of them have been flaunting their green-ness. The hordes of people who adore them and watch their every move see this, and it can have a widespread effect. Just like what Schwarzenegger did for Hummers a decade ago, hot actors now are doing for the Prius and other hybrids.

Fanboy
Jul 23rd, 2007, 10:12 AM
While vandalism is stupid and indefensible, not to mention bad for the environment (tires, re-painting, etc), there is one positive aspect of this story. It's had lots of media exposure, and likely has helped to further the message that oversized vehicles will not earn buyers the ego boost they desire from people.
I'm fairly certain the ego-stroking he is seeking is not coming at the hands of the furry-legged, armpit-mustachioed granola munchers who did this to his car.

Trendy or not, you'll pull some much higher quality trim in a Hummer than in a Prius. And, of course, while not environmentally friendly, the Hummer is much more hummer friendly.

Bullseye
Jul 23rd, 2007, 10:14 AM
Trendy or not, you'll pull some much higher quality trim in a Hummer than in a Prius. And, of course, while not environmentally friendly, the Hummer is much more hummer friendly.

Creepy...

Fanboy
Jul 23rd, 2007, 10:33 AM
Creepy...
Doesn't mean it's not true.

Bullseye
Jul 23rd, 2007, 10:42 AM
Doesn't mean it's not true.

I'd say any woman who engages in sex with someone because of the vehicle they drive would be hard to describe as 'high quality'. Shallow and vacuous would be more apt.

Fanboy
Jul 23rd, 2007, 10:46 AM
I'd say any woman who engages in sex with someone because of the vehicle they drive would be hard to describe as 'high quality'.
I'm fairly certain that those would be exactly the kind of women any purchaser of a Hummer would expect to attract.

Besides, I said "high quality trim" not "viable life partner". Let's get our terms straight.

grant
Jul 23rd, 2007, 02:44 PM
... the message that oversized vehicles will not earn buyers the ego boost they desire from people.
A hummer will definitely help its owner have sex with more attractive young women.

On the other hand, cowardly masked hooligans will secretly like you less.

Which group do you think most people are more interested in impressing?

Bullseye
Jul 23rd, 2007, 02:51 PM
A hummer will definitely help its owner have sex with more attractive young women.

On the other hand, cowardly masked hooligans will secretly like you less.

Which group do you think most people are more interested in impressing?

The point was that I think the tide is turning with regards to mainstream opinion of vehicles like the Hummer. I'd say these days that as many attractive young women would be just as likely to see a guy in a Hummer and think 'moron' as there would be those that may find such a thing enticing.

grant
Jul 24th, 2007, 06:16 PM
The point was that I think the tide is turning with regards to mainstream opinion of vehicles like the Hummer. I'd say these days that as many attractive young women would be just as likely to see a guy in a Hummer and think 'moron' as there would be those that may find such a thing enticing.
Those dreadlocked, droopy-breasted, hairy-armpitted hippy-dippy women aren't so attractive!!

But i drive a cavalier so none of the above think i'm attractive :/

aidzhsiah
Jul 24th, 2007, 08:10 PM
Hmm, only $38k?
I would have thought it would cost more like $70k...

What's the gas consumption on this thing?
Actually, that's the H2 SUT model... should be around $60k. And the H2 has no gas mileage estimates. Because of a loophole in US laws, the H2 is considered a light truck (gross weight > 8500 lbs) and is not required to undergo gas mileage estimates. I think they're finally changing this for 2008, so this year's H2 will finally have an estimate.

The H3 gets something like 13 miles per gallon city. So the H2 should be somewhere around high single digits.
These tree huggers are idiots! I can't respect them if they cannot respect the rights of others!It could be argued that the simple act of driving a Humvee is disrespecting the rights of everyone else.

The point was that I think the tide is turning with regards to mainstream opinion of vehicles like the Hummer. I'd say these days that as many attractive young women would be just as likely to see a guy in a Hummer and think 'moron' as there would be those that may find such a thing enticing.It does seem that even Hollywood stars are starting to buy into it more and more. Maybe as the celebs do it more, more regular people will get into it.

Bree
Jul 24th, 2007, 10:46 PM
It's one thing to support a cause. Destroying other property to support your cause is not acceptable in most cases. Sure, you may not like it, but it's not your decision to make. There are many other things that harm the environment as well. People need to view things with a broader perspective. If these environmental activists really wanted to drive their point home, they should be doing something more constructive.

Zaku_4
Jul 25th, 2007, 03:05 AM
forget about all this enviromental ********.

some foolish people who believe they are right beyond a shadow of a doubt ****ed up someones property, someones "dream". whats up wiht that? why cant they just stick to protests or other **** that just SLOWS the day instead of RUINS it.

i mean **** man. u know what, i hate how enviromentalist are hypocrits (prius damages the enviroment several times more tahn a h2 in terms of production) so im going to key the crap out of the next hybrid vehicle i see and maybe break some stuff if i am so inclined too.

if i were him i would be ravaging flower gardens and cutting healthy trees down to the trunk or just cutting all the arms off so its just one big ass stick.

this **** is ridiculous, thank god i live in canada.

frogger
Jul 25th, 2007, 06:25 AM
Stupid eco-terrorists... Whats next are they going to destroy all 8 cylinder cars, regardless of how often they're driven? How about blowing up people's air conditioning units because they use it when its not very hot or water heaters because they take way to long hot showers?

A Prius driver who drives 200km a day is bad for the environment vs a Hummer driver who drives 100km a week.

Bullseye
Jul 25th, 2007, 07:19 AM
i mean **** man. u know what, i hate how enviromentalist are hypocrits (prius damages the enviroment several times more tahn a h2 in terms of production) .

Not true at all. That myth has been discussed here before, and dismissed as BS. Have a search for it if you actually care are about truth.

Bullseye
Jul 25th, 2007, 07:20 AM
A Prius driver who drives 200km a day is bad for the environment vs a Hummer driver who drives 100km a week.

A Prius driving a 100km per week would be best, though, wouldn't it? Why compare apples to oranges?

aidzhsiah
Jul 25th, 2007, 07:21 AM
A Prius driver who drives 200km a day is bad for the environment vs a Hummer driver who drives 100km a week.The EPA gas mileage estimate for a Prius is something like 46mpg. The EPA gas mileage estimate for a H3 (the smallest of the Hummers) is like 15mpg. The Prius would have to drive 3 times as far to compare to the H3 is emissions.

Plus, really, who's changing their driving habits? If I go out and buy a Prius, I'm not suddenly going to drive twice as much and if I were to own a H3, I doubt I'd think twice about driving the same distance I was before. The fact is despite the car, you're more than likely going to drive the same. And if you're driving the same, then driving a hybrid will consume less gas.

aidzhsiah
Jul 25th, 2007, 07:24 AM
forget about all this enviromental ********.

some foolish people who believe they are right beyond a shadow of a doubt ****ed up someones property, someones "dream". whats up wiht that? why cant they just stick to protests or other **** that just SLOWS the day instead of RUINS it.I agree no one should have to break a law or destroy property to make any point... but that doesn't mean we should forget about environmental issues.

frogger
Jul 25th, 2007, 07:58 AM
The EPA gas mileage estimate for a Prius is something like 46mpg. The EPA gas mileage estimate for a H3 (the smallest of the Hummers) is like 15mpg. The Prius would have to drive 3 times as far to compare to the H3 is emissions.

Plus, really, who's changing their driving habits? If I go out and buy a Prius, I'm not suddenly going to drive twice as much and if I were to own a H3, I doubt I'd think twice about driving the same distance I was before. The fact is despite the car, you're more than likely going to drive the same. And if you're driving the same, then driving a hybrid will consume less gas.

So lets burn people's cars because of their driving habits too, its not all about the cars people drive and thats the point I was trying to get across. If I drive an 8 cylinder, 500hp car for half an hour on weekends but rode a bicycle to work on weekdays, should my car get blown up?!? Someone who lives 80km from their office and drives a minivan or even a Prius to work everyday consumes and clogs our highways far more, but the Prius driver thinks they're environmentally friendly.

smilodon
Jul 25th, 2007, 09:18 AM
I'm fairly certain that those would be exactly the kind of women any purchaser of a Hummer would expect to attract.

Besides, I said "high quality trim" not "viable life partner". Let's get our terms straight.

Wahhh.... didn't even get those references! My god, so many metaphors to know about, I'm sure half of what I read here I don't even get the true meaning!

aidzhsiah
Jul 26th, 2007, 07:03 AM
So lets burn people's cars because of their driving habits too, its not all about the cars people drive and thats the point I was trying to get across. If I drive an 8 cylinder, 500hp car for half an hour on weekends but rode a bicycle to work on weekdays, should my car get blown up?!? Someone who lives 80km from their office and drives a minivan or even a Prius to work everyday consumes and clogs our highways far more, but the Prius driver thinks they're environmentally friendly.
Again, I don't support breaking any laws to regardless of what the point being made is. I wouldn't support anybody's car blown up, hybrid, SUV, whatever.

And while it's true that it's not always about the car you drive, there's really no arguing that if that same person who commutes 80km a day in a minivan switched to a hybrid, they'd be consuming less fuel.

My point is that most peoples' driving habits don't change much regardless of the car they drive. Driving a Prius may mean you're still using gas, but you're still using less compared to if you were driving a different car.

I agree with you absolutely that the best way to change is to eliminate the drive altogether. Move to a place where they can bike or walk to work. But most people wouldn't consider that an option at all. So they make the most environmentally sound choice they feel they can.

A halfway compromise is better than no consideration at all.