Bell Express vu !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SMARTT]

my brother moved to a new place and got Bell express vu, he was not aware he has a two year contract with Express Vu and now he wants to cancel, they will charge him $249(+tax.(2 year contract, only 3 months into the contract)

how can he go around this?:mad:

[belfour]

only $24... should be glad bell didn't charge $200+

[SMARTT]

only $24... should be glad bell didn't charge $200+

sorry they are charging $249+tax

[Frankie3s]

my brother moved to a new place and got Bell express vu, he was not aware he has a two year contract with Express Vu and now he wants to cancel, they will charge him $249(+tax.(2 year contract, only 3 months into the contract)

how can he go around this?:mad:

You might be able to get someone else to take over the contract? It seems to work this way with the cell phones.

[Absolute]

Have him check the signed contract; I thought there was a maximum of $200 that they could charge?

[TapemanPL]

you can't get around it...

[CanAm]

I got FTA and stopped the Bell nonsense.

[bembol]

So I guess they had alot of cancellations that they INCREASED it $100.


I would pay up and get out!

If you don't want to, see if they will give you some freebies.

[patriot]

I got FTA and stopped the Bell nonsense.

+1

[Bytown]

Have him check the signed contract; I thought there was a maximum of $200 that they could charge?

No they have changed it,Now i think the max is $500.

[mlc2000]

I got FTA and stopped the Bell nonsense.

+2


HBO and free movies.

Hard to beat that.

I've had 2 yrs of it, getting approx $150USD value per month
(thats what it would cost if I lived in US and paid DISHnet.

Net cost: $400CAD.

Thank you Weedb0y

[ricoboxing]

I bought a used VHF, UHF antenna for $30 and put it on my roof. I get about 16 channels. The best part is that I watch less TV now, and get more stuff done. And I don't get a stupid $50 bill from rogers too!!

[Absolute]

No they have changed it,Now i think the max is $500.

Ouch! Glad I got out before they did that :D

[jonnyyaa]

what is FTA? not the flower company i presume LOL. but seriously...

[skywalker]

what is FTA? not the flower company i presume LOL. but seriously...

Google "FTA newbie".

[jonnyyaa]

ah free to air channels....thx for helping me out luke lol

[mlc2000]

what is FTA? not the flower company i presume LOL. but seriously...

Free to Air.

check out curious-contraptions.com for newbie info.

[Praetorian]

I got FTA and stopped the Bell nonsense.

+1 fta ftw!

[sixer]

I got FTA and stopped the Bell nonsense.

You got some Foreign channels and your happy with that (intended FTA purpose) or are you talking about modifying FTA to steal cable channels and calling yourself a criminal. Because Bell isn't free nor are PPV movies. These people are called criminals :)

Thou shall not steal. But I guess you forgot about that.

[ricoboxing]

isnt FTA the same thing as having a VHF/UHF antenna just tens times better? I thought they also called it OTA.

[patriot]

You got some Foreign channels and your happy with that (intended FTA purpose) or are you talking about modifying FTA to steal cable channels and calling yourself a criminal. Because Bell isn't free nor are PPV movies. These people are called criminals :)

Thou shall not steal. But I guess you forgot about that.

I use FTA to get DishNet in Canada .... If I were in the US it would be illegal .... so I guess my definition of criminal is what Bell/Starchoice/Rogers/Cogeco etc. charging us big $$ for watching TV.

I guess now you'll be shopping for a FTA reciever .... :)

[P__S__2]

Once I went FTA, I never went back lol. Trust me, get it and you will never see another cable, satellite, etc bill again.

[sixer]

Once I went FTA, I never went back lol. Trust me, get it and you will never see another cable, satellite, etc bill again.

My friend, "Greed will imprison us all"

I really don't understand how all these people stealing can live with themselves.
Wake up and remember .. THAT IT'S THEFT!! PURE THEFT!

Oh, they leave their channels open to piracy, it's their fault.

Next time my neighbour leaves their car door open, or I see a convertible in the mall open, I guess it's ok to steal whatever is in their car.

People who pirate FTA are criminals. Period.

[Praetorian]

My friend, "Greed will imprison us all"

I really don't understand how all these people stealing can live with themselves.
Wake up and remember .. THAT IT'S THEFT!! PURE THEFT!

Oh, they leave their channels open to piracy, it's their fault.

Next time my neighbour leaves their car door open, or I see a convertible in the mall open, I guess it's ok to steal whatever is in their car.

People who pirate FTA are criminals. Period.

the satellite providers beam down, on my property no less, scrambled television data without my expressed permission. what i choose to do with with those scrambled waves is my business, and i choose to unscramble them for my viewing pleasure.

get the satellite companies to stop transmitting scrambled data onto my property and i will stop unscrambling them.

[sixer]

the satellite providers beam down, on my property no less, scrambled television data without my expressed permission. what i choose to do with with those scrambled waves is my business, and i choose to unscramble them for my viewing pleasure.

get the satellite companies to stop transmitting scrambled data onto my property and i will stop unscrambling them.

Feeling guilty eh....

[Praetorian]

Feeling guilty eh....

feeling jealous, eh...?

[Diamondog]

I use FTA to get DishNet in Canada .... If I were in the US it would be illegal .... so I guess my definition of criminal is what Bell/Starchoice/Rogers/Cogeco etc. charging us big $$ for watching TV.

I guess now you'll be shopping for a FTA reciever .... :)

What you preceive as big $$$ oh and maybe they charge big $$$ because of all the people stealing signal?

[sixer]

feeling jealous, eh...?

Actually, more like an illumination within my soul for knowing right from wrong and having a moral conscious. It's nice to be able to tell raise your child and teach them right from wrong, and stealing cable is one of them. If I can't afford HD PVR and I can only get one channel for them to watch, then so be it. I won't spend one penny on modified FTA. These guys selling modified equipment behind the scenes, might as well tell my kid a drug dealer is a good profession. FTA dealers who encourage modifying their equipment to steal satellite signals that companies have paid for and programming that people have paid to produce is not their for everyone to steal as much as you'd like to convince yourself.

[bubble.tea]

You might be able to get someone else to take over the contract? It seems to work this way with the cell phones.
Pretty much your only solution.,
I bought a used VHF, UHF antenna for $30 and put it on my roof. I get about 16 channels. The best part is that I watch less TV now, and get more stuff done. And I don't get a stupid $50 bill from rogers too!!
Couldn't agree more.
the satellite providers beam down, on my property no less, scrambled television data without my expressed permission. what i choose to do with with those scrambled waves is my business, and i choose to unscramble them for my viewing pleasure.

get the satellite companies to stop transmitting scrambled data onto my property and i will stop unscrambling them.
lmao. You can't be serious? Does this actually have any legal merit or is it just verbal diarrhoea?

[felix]

What deal did they give you to hook you up to a contract? Just curious because my dad also mentioned he was charged a fee for early cancellation and I couldn't figure out why he would sign a contract. He certainly didn't get a free LCD or anything like that.

[bubble.tea]

What deal did they give you to hook you up to a contract? Just curious because my dad also mentioned he was charged a fee for early cancellation and I couldn't figure out why he would sign a contract. He certainly didn't get a free LCD or anything like that.

Wasn't it free professional installation or something? :rolleyes:.

Either way I don't think you can activate it on a month-2-month.

[Bytown]

What deal did they give you to hook you up to a contract? Just curious because my dad also mentioned he was charged a fee for early cancellation and I couldn't figure out why he would sign a contract. He certainly didn't get a free LCD or anything like that.

They charge a fee to cancel has before people would abuse the system.

[brute33]

why do people even ask this stuff?? he signed a contract!! does your brother understand what that means? It's a legal binding agreement between 2 parties.

I don't care if it was 1000$ penalty. If he didn't like the terms then he should not have signed.

I hate bell (my lines are with primus) but he owes them the money. This is why i don't have cable or satellite for my tv. Every providers requires a contract.

[Phat_cow]

My parents was with Bell since they first launched their first satillite. Signal was terrible back then. I remember they had a Bell channel (198?) and shows how many subscribers they have. I think we pretty much their first few hundred customers. We canceled our service a week ago and switched to Rogers because it's cheaper. They called me day after we called to cancel and tried to retain us. We said NO!

[trixstar]

what is FTA? not the flower company i presume LOL. but seriously...

free-to-air... i dunno about the free part though :lol:

[Bytown]

My parents was with Bell since they first launched their first satillite. Signal was terrible back then. I remember they had a Bell channel (198?) and shows how many subscribers they have. I think we pretty much their first few hundred customers. We canceled our service a week ago and switched to Rogers because it's cheaper. They called me day after we called to cancel and tried to retain us. We said NO!

Rogers is raising there prices %5 as of oct1.

[weedb0y]

+2


HBO and free movies.

Hard to beat that.

I've had 2 yrs of it, getting approx $150USD value per month
(thats what it would cost if I lived in US and paid DISHnet.

Net cost: $400CAD.

Thank you Weedb0y

Anytime boss! Anytime! Thats what I do best!

[weedb0y]

Wasn't it free professional installation or something? :rolleyes:.

Either way I don't think you can activate it on a month-2-month.

With bell, you can do month to month as long as you pay for the hardware and installation. Thats how I have it done!

[patriot]

... and maybe they charge big $$$ because of all the people stealing signal?

You can't really be serious. If you can back that up with some facts, perhaps then I'll feel some remorse. Until then ... giddy up !

[Diamondog]

You can't really be serious. If you can back that up with some facts, perhaps then I'll feel some remorse. Until then ... giddy up !


It's just like anything...stores increase merchandise prices because of shoplifting so why wouldn't cable/sat providers boost their prices to help offset signal theft? It's common sense.

[patriot]

It's just like anything...stores increase merchandise prices because of shoplifting so why wouldn't cable/sat providers boost their prices to help offset signal theft? It's common sense.

Well, if satellite providers were so concerned about signal theft, they would pay more attention to making their signal crack-proof (ie. DirectTV). Anyway, you can moralize all you want, the fact of the matter is the FTA community is growing and being a smart consumer I participate.

BTW, annual savings given that the signal gets decoded "wide open" is approximately $1200. So thus far my net savings is ~ $2000 over 2 years or $2400 - $400 investment.

Cheers !

[Diamondog]

Well, if satellite providers were so concerned about signal theft, they would pay more attention to making their signal crack-proof (ie. DirectTV). Anyway, you can moralize all you want, the fact of the matter is the FTA community is growing and being a smart consumer I participate.

BTW, annual savings given that the signal gets decoded "wide open" is approximately $1200. So thus far my net savings is ~ $2000 over 2 years or $2400 - $400 investment.

Cheers !

No one is trying to change your mind, do whatever it is you do and the rest of of us will pick up the tab for you. I know not everyone can afford these luxuries.

[stealth]

It's just like anything...stores increase merchandise prices because of shoplifting so why wouldn't cable/sat providers boost their prices to help offset signal theft? It's common sense.

Its nothing like shoplifting at stores. Bell invests nothing into content, nor do they own the airwaves.

Perhaps if they didnt prey on consumers as in the original topic by the OP (not to mention the inflated costs of a subscription) people wouldnt feel so callous about "stealing" signals.
They will learn what other entertainment sources have learned...that people are largely honest, and are willing to pay for a quality product BUT there is a limit to what people will pay, before they feel alienated. Look at how now you can buy new cd releases for $10-12. Before all the downloading hype, we were paying significantly more. So theres the lesson...at $10. a cd, people will buy it instead of download it (at least I will).
If Bell offerred a comprehensive satellite channel package of, say 50 channels- which I could freely pick and choose, and charged $25. a month I would be an extremely happy and loyal customer, and wouldnt bother with FTA.
Instead they play dirty little tricks when customers try and cancel, they maliciously setup channel packages to stick people with less desirable channels and force you to opt into other packages for just a couple channels more, and they play lousy games such as negative option billing, and unplanned uncontrolled rate increases, and lobby hard to prevent any additional competition in their monopolized marketplace-which would of course result in them having to improve their service and pricing. F-them....I hope they get run out of business, and so should you. They have done you no favours.

[Diamondog]

Its nothing like shoplifting at stores. Bell invests nothing into content, nor do they own the airwaves.

Perhaps if they didnt prey on consumers as in the original topic by the OP (not to mention the inflated costs of a subscription) people wouldnt feel so callous about "stealing" signals.
They will learn what other entertainment sources have learned...that people are largely honest, and are willing to pay for a quality product BUT there is a limit to what people will pay, before they feel alienated. Look at how now you can buy new cd releases for $10-12. Before all the downloading hype, we were paying significantly more. So theres the lesson...at $10. a cd, people will buy it instead of download it (at least I will).
If Bell offerred a comprehensive satellite channel package of, say 50 channels- which I could freely pick and choose, and charged $25. a month I would be an extremely happy and loyal customer, and wouldnt bother with FTA.
Instead they play dirty little tricks when customers try and cancel, they maliciously setup channel packages to stick people with less desirable channels and force you to opt into other packages for just a couple channels more, and they play lousy games such as negative option billing, and unplanned uncontrolled rate increases, and lobby hard to prevent any additional competition in their monopolized marketplace-which would of course result in them having to improve their service and pricing. F-them....I hope they get run out of business, and so should you. They have done you no favours.

These are all "perceptions" what you think is unfair or too expensive, trust me you are in the minority compared to how many customers they have that are satisfied but like anything there are always a few who are not.

[stealth]

These are all "perceptions" what you think is unfair or too expensive, trust me you are in the minority compared to how many customers they have that are satisfied but like anything there are always a few who are not.

Then I guess we really cant be "driving up the prices for the paying customers" then can we? Everyones happy this way, so problems solved
:)

[mlc2000]

If I watch Dishnet , can I be blamed for the high price of B3V?

[CanAm]

If I watch Dishnet , can I be blamed for the high price of B3V?

Yes, and global warming.

[Ogata]

My friend has express vu and its funny how he doens't have TSN or Sportsnet but has the FAN 590.

[patriot]

Then I guess we really cant be "driving up the prices for the paying customers" then can we? Everyones happy this way, so problems solved
:)

+1 .... it only took 3 posts.:|

[mlc2000]

Yes, and global warming.

I thought it was Mike Harris. :confused:

[mlc2000]

Why can't B3V get HBO, Showtime, Cinemax,VH1, Comedy Central,etc?

They pull in all the us affiliates (NBC,FOX, CBS, ABC).

If DN suddenly went completely black black like DirecTV did,
I highly doubt I would order B3V if they can't get these premier stations.

[weedb0y]

Why can't B3V get HBO, Showtime, Cinemax,VH1, Comedy Central,etc?

They pull in all the us affiliates (NBC,FOX, CBS, ABC).

If DN suddenly went completely black black like DirecTV did,
I highly doubt I would order B3V if they can't get these premier stations.

As far as I know, CRTC is to be blamed for this.

[patriot]

If DN suddenly went completely black black like DirecTV did,
I highly doubt I would order B3V if they can't get these premier stations.

Order B3V ? ... just repoint your DN Dish.