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Bazooka Joe
Jul 13th, 2007, 06:30 AM
I'm in the market for a new set of all season tires (which will only be used 3 season - I've got a good pair of snow tires for winter). I've got it narrowed down to these two, and the prices I'm getting for a set of 4 are within $5 of one another.

So here's the question: Which should I get?

I know that the TripleTred has a slight edge over the HydroEdge on consumer reports. However, I put on about 35k kms a year and I've heard the treadwear is somewhat better on the hydroedge. Does anyone know of any other considerations I should be taking? Is one substantially noisier or grip better? I understand that the tripletred are better in snow, but that's not a major concern as I've got a dedicated set of winter tires.

myapple
Jul 13th, 2007, 11:11 AM
I have tripleted's and I think they're great. Been using them for a year, very satisfied. I have dedicated winter tires as well but tripletreds are great for those transitional periods like november and march. No problems tackling occasional light snow.

sunnybono
Jul 13th, 2007, 11:27 AM
I'm in the market for a new set of all season tires (which will only be used 3 season - I've got a good pair of snow tires for winter). I've got it narrowed down to these two, and the prices I'm getting for a set of 4 are within $5 of one another.

So here's the question: Which should I get?

I know that the TripleTred has a slight edge over the HydroEdge on consumer reports. However, I put on about 35k kms a year and I've heard the treadwear is somewhat better on the hydroedge. Does anyone know of any other considerations I should be taking? Is one substantially noisier or grip better? I understand that the tripletred are better in snow, but that's not a major concern as I've got a dedicated set of winter tires.

Don't have any experience with the Goodyears as the only tires from goodyear that I've had had been stock tires and not too thrilled with them. However I do have experience with the Hydroedge on a 2000 Civic. All I can say is that I wish Michelin would make more sizes on the Hydro's. This is an awesome tire!!!!

sk

googoo
Jul 13th, 2007, 12:39 PM
Love my Hydroedges, great three season tire, only OK for deeper snow.

Be warned that these tire pick up wrong into the tread quite easily.

B

ES_Revenge
Jul 13th, 2007, 06:22 PM
I'm in the market for a new set of all season tires (which will only be used 3 season - I've got a good pair of snow tires for winter). I've got it narrowed down to these two, and the prices I'm getting for a set of 4 are within $5 of one another.

Okay what now??? You're going to have winter tyres but you want to buy all-seasons for the non-winter months? Are you joking?

Neither of these is a good choice. They are all-seasons and there's no such thing as a good tyre that's an all-season. Do yourself a favour and buy a set of decent summer tyres instead.

VivienM
Jul 13th, 2007, 07:14 PM
Okay what now??? You're going to have winter tyres but you want to buy all-seasons for the non-winter months? Are you joking?

Neither of these is a good choice. They are all-seasons and there's no such thing as a good tyre that's an all-season. Do yourself a favour and buy a set of decent summer tyres instead.

The bigger question for the OP is why, if he's going to have winter tires, he's looking at the TWO most-well-known most-"all-weather-capable" all-season tires around (and among the most expensive for non-performance tires). IMHO, these are great choices... if they're your year-long tire.

For the record, my dad got some TripleTreds a few months ago. He's happy with them, and I think he said he noticed some improvement in the rain, but the real test will be in the winter...

Bazooka Joe
Jul 13th, 2007, 08:04 PM
I'm looking for a set of tires that will give me very high milage. Also we get a lot of "fringe" weather where it gets down to say zero in the evenings (snow + freezing rain) and then up to say 10 in the afternoons in both the fall and spring. That's at least two months a year of that nonsense, where I'd like a set that will do decent on the ride to work in the morning and also won't get prematurely worn on the ride home in the afternoon.

Of course I'm up for any alternate suggestions. My understanding was that all seasons were built for high milage.

VivienM
Jul 13th, 2007, 09:56 PM
My understanding was that all seasons were built for high milage.

By mileage, you mean fuel economy (unlikely) or tread life (how many km you can drive before the tire is worn out)?

Some all seasons will last much longer than others. The two tires you've picked out are warranted for either 110 or 130K kms, I forget... You can probably get cheaper tires that'll last longer, but they'll deliver worse handling and way worse performance in bad weather conditions.

One rule, though, generally speaking - the "sportier" an all-season tire, the less it lasts, it seems...

vazilioz
Jul 13th, 2007, 11:09 PM
When i bought my tires last year i've read all the reviews you can image. My choice where the same like your + the Yoko Avid TRZ. The tripletreds are the best but cost more money. The goodyears perform like the TRZ but cost more. The best bang for the buck are the yoko's.
1. Avid TRZ
2. Tripletred
3. Hydroedge

http://www.yokohamatire.com/images/carsandtires/AVIDTRZ.jpg

http://blogs.consumerreports.org/photos/uncategorized/goodyear_tripletred.jpg

http://www.anywheretires.com/catalog/images/hydroedge.jpg

googoo
Jul 13th, 2007, 11:45 PM
Let me state this nicely. I drove on the Hydrodege tires ALL WINTER, they were put on in November last year. These are not great winter tires....trust me! ALTHOUGH THEY MIGHT WORK DOWNTOWN(whoops) they aren't great for rural winter driving!

Anyways, a couple of "tire guys" told me that the Harmony is better for winter tire at some sacrifice on performance and treadware, and the hydroedge is made with hydroplaning resistance and treadware as the 2 major benefits over the Harmony.

I know nothing about the other 2 tires!

bRENT

Bazooka Joe
Jul 14th, 2007, 05:18 AM
By mileage, you mean fuel economy (unlikely) or tread life (how many km you can drive before the tire is worn out)?

Some all seasons will last much longer than others. The two tires you've picked out are warranted for either 110 or 130K kms, I forget... You can probably get cheaper tires that'll last longer, but they'll deliver worse handling and way worse performance in bad weather conditions.

One rule, though, generally speaking - the "sportier" an all-season tire, the less it lasts, it seems...

My goal is to buy the best tires in terms of treadwear, that can be used 3 season. In that category, I'm also looking for the safest tire I can buy that will give me a long treadlife. These two tires are waranteed for 130k and 140k for the goodyear and michelins respectively.

When i bought my tires last year i've read all the reviews you can image. My choice where the same like your + the Yoko Avid TRZ. The tripletreds are the best but cost more money. The goodyears perform like the TRZ but cost more. The best bang for the buck are the yoko's.
1. Avid TRZ
2. Tripletred
3. Hydroedge

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Believe it or not, the Avid TRZ's are not really that big savings in my area. I live in the sticks in Northern Ontario, and each shop will only cut a deal on the tires that they have in stock (one shop will cut me a good deal on Goodyears and the other shop will cut me a good deal on the Michelins). No shop up here specializes in Yoko tires. They can all order in whatever I want, but if they have to go outside their normal suppliers there's a surcharge (or at least there appears to be from my perspective).

CRXGSR
Jul 14th, 2007, 07:53 AM
These two tires are waranteed for 130k and 140k for the goodyear and michelins respectively.


That is not how you should be calculating treadwear (what you list above is only for warranty purposes). Each tire specifically has a traction/temperature/treadwear rating.

The tripletread is rated at 740, and the hydroedge are rated at 800.

BTW, I also think the TRZ is a good choice, however having a lower treadwear rating. But I've never had any balancing/runout issues with them.

With the triple tread, it's hit or miss. Balancing could be way off or they just don't run round. As with the hydroedge, I wouldn't even consider that tire.

I've heard triple treads run really well in the winter as well, but I haven't heard anything about TRZ in winter (doesn't look like it'll do well anywayz).

Avatar
Jul 14th, 2007, 07:57 AM
I have both. Got Hydroedge on mine and TripleTread on the van.
Been using HydroEdge for years all season. I don't like the hassle of switching tires twice a year so I chose HydroEdge as long as I don't drive like crazy in Winter. Everybody slow anyway in Winter time. And I've gone through 3 Winters with 100k and tread still look like new. It's a very good tire on rainy days too. Afterall it's Michelin.
Regarding the TripleTread, I rarely drive the van. I do feel it's more sticky to the road surface than HydroEdge which might contribute to more gas (just my guess). It looks good on cars too as it composed of some kind of compound that makes the tire look new all the time. It used to be more than $5 cheaper than Hydroedge I guess the price gone up because it's more popular now. I might switch to it when Hydroedge is gone.
In your case, I think it's not worth to pay the premium for these tires since you are going to use Winter tires on your ride anyway. Most cheaper tires are good for 3 seasons with no snow.

McLaren
Jul 14th, 2007, 01:37 PM
I was going to get the Hydroedge as well until reading reviews that it wasn't very good in snow, as well as road noise compared the Harmony, got that instead for those 2 factors.

Audiogenic
Jul 15th, 2007, 11:00 AM
When i bought my tires last year i've read all the reviews you can image. My choice where the same like your + the Yoko Avid TRZ. The tripletreds are the best but cost more money. The goodyears perform like the TRZ but cost more. The best bang for the buck are the yoko's.
1. Avid TRZ
2. Tripletred
3. Hydroedge

http://www.yokohamatire.com/images/carsandtires/AVIDTRZ.jpg

http://blogs.consumerreports.org/photos/uncategorized/goodyear_tripletred.jpg

http://www.anywheretires.com/catalog/images/hydroedge.jpg

+1

For all of the reasons you mentioned, I picked up the Yokohama AVID TRZ for my '03 Camry and they are superb....very low road noice, smooth ride, excellent in wet conditions.