HP a6010n C2D 4300, 1 GB, 320 GB HD $499

[champ91]

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=83%2C84,413&webid=680816&affixedcode=WW

next week wednesday on the 11th this will drop 300 dollars to 499. Pretty good deal. plus you can get some discount stuff when you buy a computer.

UPDATE:
i got a flyer in the mail and the sale is confirmed. you can get these four items if you buy this computer:

HP C4280 for 29.93 after MIR
Acer 17" LCD for 149.95
Office home and Student 2007 for 99.86
Mio C220S GPS for 199.96

[dryang]

is this in store only? or online?

[nsx]

is this in store only? or online?

"This product is an Online Clearance Item and has been discontinued from our assortment. Please note that there are limited quantities of this item and it may not be available in all regions. This item is only available while stock lasts in our online store."

[dryang]

can i buy now and get price matched next Wed?

[nsx]

can i buy now and get price matched next Wed?

Certainly! If it's in stock in your region now and it indeed will go on sale next week.

[dryang]

how do you guys know this sale? from the flyer?

[ibear]

for $499 it's a good price.

[riskit]

any laptops

[dryang]

availabe at my area. are you sure it will be on sale next week?

i am looking for a desktop and need one right away

[torontoraptor]

^ Well, even if it doesn't go on sale, can't you just return it?

[dryang]

is a desktop returnable at staples? i never tried it.

[riskit]

^ Well, even if it doesn't go on sale, can't you just return it?

is a desktop returnable at staples? i never tried it.


yes but DO NOT OPEN IT:twisted:

they will make you go thou hell to return it,

when its open they will what verfy everything inside and might what to charge you to reformat the drive.

[dryang]

what discount stuff can i buy?

[tjuzer]

Is really good deal? With price job everything. Open pci slot?

[dryang]

is this a hot deal?

[LonesomeDove]

It is selling for $649.99 at Future Shop.

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10086540&catid=

It has one review; a negative one.

[champ91]

i just heard it from a friend that works at staples..... so i dont' know the details. but it should start on wednesday because their flyer this week ends on tuesday...

[enforcerviper]

It has one review; a negative one.

The review sounds like it's been written by a pylon.

[Howlader]

The review sounds like it's been written by a pylon.
Is that better or worse than a Cylon?

[bug]

The review sounds like it's been written by a pylon.

A pylon? http://users.tinyonline.co.uk/bigh/bigh/hereitis.htm

[dryang]

i placed order. i am now nervous.

[GVRtrader]

Anyone planning on buying this... remember AM2 CPU just had a price drop and Intel will in a couple of weeks.

Right now...
AMD 6000 (comparable to e6600)
~200
Mobo for it
~70 (690G)
320GB HD
~80
Burner
~30
Ram
~40-50 (for 1GB)
Case
~20-60 (with generic PSU... not like HP = better)

Total cost -OS ~450 so the deal is not bad but not great if you can build your own. If you like pre-built, this is a hot deal.

[frankw]

Well, managed to order one in Barrie with 2 x coupons for another $50 off. So if the price drops to $499 on the 11th, then final price to be $450. Not too shabby.

[champ91]

Anyone planning on buying this... remember AM2 CPU just had a price drop and Intel will in a couple of weeks.

Right now...
AMD 6000 (comparable to e6600)
~200
Mobo for it
~70 (690G)
320GB HD
~80
Burner
~30
Ram
~40-50 (for 1GB)
Case
~20-60 (with generic PSU... not like HP = better)

Total cost -OS ~450 so the deal is not bad but not great if you can build your own. If you like pre-built, this is a hot deal.



you forgot the cost of the operating system. Vista home premium, Legit copy OEM is about 150

[champ91]

for those of you who bought it already, keep in mind that the return policy for computers is 14days. and don't open it till the sale is confirmed because they do have a long procedure for computer returns.

lol, i'm pretty sure this sale is going to happen ( my frd should be right) but just a warning for those incase it doesn't.

[dryang]

how about other desktops on clearance, are there also 300 drop on the othere clearance systems? thanks

[champ91]

i got a flyer in the mail and the sale is confirmed. you can get these four items if you buy this computer:

HP C4280 for 29.93 after MIR
Acer 17" LCD for 149.95
Office home and Student 2007 for 99.86
Mio C220S GPS for 199.96

[champ91]

"This product is an Online Clearance Item and has been discontinued from our assortment. Please note that there are limited quantities of this item and it may not be available in all regions. This item is only available while stock lasts in our online store."

this is going to be both online and in store

[frankw]

Mine arrived 10 minutes ago. Now to resist the urge to rip the box open. :D :D :D

What I don't understand is why clear out this model at this time of the year. The lowest price I can find anywhere is $625 USD at Amazon.com. Its not like this model is heavily discounted system wide so Staples has to play catchup again.

[Bigmouth]

Now to resist the urge to rip the box open. :D :D :D

Why? Only DVD/CD/Computer games can't be returned after the box is opened.

Though it might take longer time for the return because they need to check inside for the various parts/components ...

[frankw]

Why? Only DVD/CD/Computer games can't be returned after the box is opened.

Though it might take longer time for the return because they need to check inside for the various parts/components ...


My local Staples puts upto a 48 hour hold on refunds for returned desktops. They automatically assume you are trying to rip them off by swapping parts and copying software.

[s7r1k3r]

yes the 48 hours is for checking the computer for parts and software and its on clearance because there will be alot of new quad core hps rolling in along with new laptops.

[pmdoit]

Thanks op, tommorow i will ask for my $300+tax

[champ91]

btw, the hd is 320Gb and not 250GB like the flyer says

[dryang]

http://www.amazon.com/Pavilion-A6010N-Desktop-Processor-SuperMulti/dp/B000O5D45E

two negative reviews at amazon.com

now should i buy this?

[champ91]

http://www.amazon.com/Pavilion-A6010N-Desktop-Processor-SuperMulti/dp/B000O5D45E

two negative reviews at amazon.com

now should i buy this?

depends if you are capable of fixing your own tech problems such as doing recoverys and whatnot.

the only real benefit for this is the legal copy of vista home premium

[tjuzer]

http://www.amazon.com/Pavilion-A6010N-Desktop-Processor-SuperMulti/dp/B000O5D45E

two negative reviews at amazon.com

now should i buy this?

This machine is a nightmare!, May 29, 2007 By Michael Fumento (Arlington, VA 22209) - See all my reviews


I have been buying computers since 1982, including desktops, laptops, and more recently for my wife. Each one has worked out of the box. This was the sole exception. The CD/DVD player crashed the system with each CD I tried to play. So after futzing with tech support for hours they finally sent a new unit. It, too, crashed the system with each disk. In the meantime the system simply corrupted itself on a daily basis. The next to go was media files from my hard drive. They, too, would randomly crash the system. Other files I formerly could simply click on now demanded debugging. Then suddenly the mail system decided that certain messages would not be deletable. Ever. I tried MS Vista restore to no avail. Nothing left but "System Recovery," which supposedly backs up new files and programs while restoring all software to its original state. But once in motion it DID NOT allow any backups. The button that would do so stayed shaded. Yet for all that the bugs started to slowly creep back in! This piece of junk goes back to HP!

Sound like case of dumb user to me. He try sound so confidint too.

[anvah]

Online says out of stock. Anyone know how I can get this?

[frankw]

http://www.amazon.com/Pavilion-A6010N-Desktop-Processor-SuperMulti/dp/B000O5D45E

two negative reviews at amazon.com

now should i buy this?


Where do you see "two" negative reviews? I see one guy saying no problems and one PEBKAC user.

[woodstock827]

online OOS already...
too bad I'm looking for a cheap computer with legit Windows..

[cruzer24]

Thanks OP! Ordered online. Used 2 coupons to get the total down to $449.95. $508.44 taxes in!

[vazilioz]

Same here, 513$tx in, i wouln't pay more then that anyways since you can find similar deals at bestbuy.ca with refurb computers. The only thing that made me choose this one is the new HP case. Now i'm looking for really cheap price DDR2.

[champ91]

make sure to get the home and student edition for a hundred bucks if you need it. i'ts like 80 dollars off with computer purchase

[momojai]

Hi,

I just tried to call Staples to price match the system to $499 since I bought it for $799 yesterday. However, the representative told me that they can only price match it if they have it in stock. They don't have it in stock anymore. Is this true?

Thanks.

[dryang]

i placed order last nite, system clearly shows thereare still 8 left and i got confirmation email right after. but this morning, i got email from s staples CSR notifying me that this item IS OOS.

[consultant]

Just picked mine up at Staples on Dufferin and Clark. I also go the $29.99 HP All-In-One there too.

[momojai]

There's one unit on display at Yonge/Adelaide. It's running as a demo.

[rfman]

Might have to stop by the store to look at that. I have 180$ in "HP Dollars" they gave me because of a recent service cock-up, and I could use a desktop as a media centre in the living room. Anybody know if this has DVI?

[momojai]

Might have to stop by the store to look at that. I have 180$ in "HP Dollars" they gave me because of a recent service cock-up, and I could use a desktop as a media centre in the living room. Anybody know if this has DVI?

No DVI but there's a PCI-E slot.

[Bigmouth]

Hi,

I just tried to call Staples to price match the system to $499 since I bought it for $799 yesterday. However, the representative told me that they can only price match it if they have it in stock. They don't have it in stock anymore. Is this true?

Not true. The "not in stock" option is only for PM with their competitors.

One of my friends has successfully got the PM for the two systems he bought yesterday and the day before yesterday.

[raskal]

I just bought one online,... assuming it comes,...

thanks OP!

[dryang]

Please be advised that the order #XXXXXXfrom
Staples Business Depot cannot be shipped at the moment as the item # 680816 is out of stock.

This item is a discontinued item and cannot be shipped. Please advise that the item has not been charged.

I apologize for the inconvenience.

Sincerely;

[trellaine201]

Ohhh lordy I was so close to buying this PC at a very good deal-thanks OP but.....I am not sure if it would be an upgrade from my current PC other than probably the Vista.

My PC now is AMD Athlon 3200+, 2.2Ghz and 1GB or RAM


Any technical people tell me if the a6010n would be an upgrade? And hmm I am actually running OEM version of MCE on my current PC? I guess I can't load the MCE OEM onto the Vista? lol

Thanks

[believeit]

Just received email back from staples saying I can't use $30 off $150 cpn...any1 else got this?

"Thank you for shopping with us,

We were unable to apply coupon code 50933 to your order for the
following reason:

Coupon has already been used

Your order will remain on hold for 48 hours. Please reply to
bd.support@orders.staples.com and reference order # XXXXXXXXX to let us
know if you wish for us to process the order without the coupon.

*** Your order will remain on hold for 48 hours. ***
*** If we haven't heard from you by this time ***
*** the order will be cancelled. ***

We apologize for any inconvenience. Please do not hesitate to contact
us if you require further assistance.

Thank you for shopping with us,
Your Online Office Manager"

[momojai]

Ohhh lordy I was so close to buying this PC at a very good deal-thanks OP but.....I am not sure if it would be an upgrade from my current PC other than probably the Vista.

My PC now is AMD Athlon 3200+, 2.2Ghz and 1GB or RAM


Any technical people tell me if the a6010n would be an upgrade? And hmm I am actually running OEM version of MCE on my current PC? I guess I can't load the MCE OEM onto the Vista? lol

Thanks

At $499, it's definitely worth an upgrade. Since the a6010n comes with Vista Home Premium, it'll have all the media centre fuctionality built-in. Please make a note that this system does not come with a video tuner so you might want to pick one up as well.

[trellaine201]

FUDGE! Out of stock now LOL. Guess I should have continued on earlier at the check out. :razz:

I did goto Staples to check the PC and ask a few questions. It is available but at $499.

And as a RFDer I wanted to buy online and use the coupons. :)

Oh well. Any chances these come back in stock?


I guess due this be a "clearance" item Futureshop/Bestbuy won't PM?

[champ91]

Hi,

I just tried to call Staples to price match the system to $499 since I bought it for $799 yesterday. However, the representative told me that they can only price match it if they have it in stock. They don't have it in stock anymore. Is this true?

Thanks.

no, bring in your receipt and get your money back

[j3tang]

bought this a couple days ago online at $799 less $50 coupon. went to store today to get price adjustment and they said they couldn't do it for me in store, all I had to do was call in and talk to a CSR.

Phoned in while i was still in the store and got price adjusted from $799 to $499, less the $50 coupon. i think this has been the only "easy" time I've ever had at staples.

Thanks OP for the deal :)

on another note, does anyone know of any good deals for ram for this desktop?
looking to add 2x1gb more :)

[blainehamilton]

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00864946&lc=en&cc=ca&dlc=en&product=3377270&lang=en

Board doesn't support Quad Core according to HP. but e6x00 and e4x00 upgrades are fine.

This is a hot deal for a c2d.

[momojai]

no, bring in your receipt and get your money back

Thanks champ91. I got my money back. They called the Staples hotline for me.

BTW, thanks for posting the deal on RFD!

[trellaine201]

I was just able to order online with a couple of coupons. I had to keep checking every once inawhile for stock.

Now, let's see if they accept the coupons as a previous poster said one of the coupons wasn't accepted.

:)

[spyhero]

Looks like this computer doesn't have good review:

Really not that great, 5/22/2007
Reviewer: John, Vancover
I got this computer two weeks a go and let me tell u their are so many errors. I tried putting ram in.error, i tried putting in a graphics card, error. Save your money and buy another hp computer. I personally like hp but i think the problem here was the intel proccesor, i'm getting another hp soon but one with amd.

This machine is a nightmare!, May 29, 2007
By Michael Fumento (Arlington, VA 22209) - See all my reviews
I have been buying computers since 1982, including desktops, laptops, and more recently for my wife. Each one has worked out of the box. This was the sole exception. The CD/DVD player crashed the system with each CD I tried to play. So after futzing with tech support for hours they finally sent a new unit. It, too, crashed the system with each disk. In the meantime the system simply corrupted itself on a daily basis. The next to go was media files from my hard drive. They, too, would randomly crash the system. Other files I formerly could simply click on now demanded debugging. Then suddenly the mail system decided that certain messages would not be deletable. Ever. I tried MS Vista restore to no avail. Nothing left but "System Recovery," which supposedly backs up new files and programs while restoring all software to its original state. But once in motion it DID NOT allow any backups. The button that would do so stayed shaded. Yet for all that the bugs started to slowly creep back in! This piece of junk goes back to HP!

[coolman217]

my friend got rejected for her order as the SA said only one coupon is allowed to be used within a purchase. Quite bs, as my previous orders and the ordering system does in fact allow you to use a maximum of 2 different coupons per purchase.

If you get rejected, create a new profile and try again.

[trellaine201]

Thanks for the heads up! I have stacked coupons before, I think there is a max of (2) sixteen digit codes and (3) six digit codes???

Of course this is based on the purchase price of an item.


Why create a new profile? How would that change things?

[dryang]

i placed order last nite and got a confirm email, delivery tomorrow. Then this morning i got an email from a CSR from staples, saying that this item is OOS, cannot be shippped. then i called staples warehouse, the CSR there told me my order was processed and delivery is scheduled tomorrow. so odd!

should i wait tomorrow all day? i used two coupons.

[trellaine201]

:cheesygri does seem quite wonky getting two different responses. I would have expected the negative response " coupon already used" phrase but not the OUT OF STOCK.

That's a toughy but good luck. :)

[coolman217]

Thanks for the heads up! I have stacked coupons before, I think there is a max of (2) sixteen digit codes and (3) six digit codes???

Of course this is based on the purchase price of an item.


Why create a new profile? How would that change things?

Only if the CSR doesn't look at the previous order i guess :cheesygri . i guess it's just the luck of the draw

[cruzer24]

Received mine today with the $50 off!

Thanks again OP!!

[j3tang]

could someone let me know if this (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25026&vpn=OCZ2SE6671G&manufacture=OCZ%20Technology&promoid=1020) ram works with this desktop? or are HP machines pickier about what kind of ram you choose?

[trellaine201]

Received mine today with the $50 off!

Thanks again OP!!

Yeah I haven't received any email saying that the coupons aren't being accepted........yet. I think I would have received an email by now so looks like tomorrow they will deliver as the order suggested. Hopefully I am home. :(

[DealOnForum]

Please be advised that the order #XXXXXXfrom
Staples Business Depot cannot be shipped at the moment as the item # 680816 is out of stock.

This item is a discontinued item and cannot be shipped. Please advise that the item has not been charged.

I apologize for the inconvenience.

Sincerely;

I have ordered it online yesterday at 12:05 AM before any flyer is available on the store in the morning. I also called CS to confirm in the morning and was told that the item is on hold for me. Somehow today, they called and said the item is OOS??? I tried to tell the CS rep that I already confirmed it and it was told to be on hold. She said "on hold" did not mean the item is available at the time of delivery?????

Any suggestion? :confused:

[s7r1k3r]

Hi,

I just tried to call Staples to price match the system to $499 since I bought it for $799 yesterday. However, the representative told me that they can only price match it if they have it in stock. They don't have it in stock anymore. Is this true?

Thanks.

No in that case you just say that you will return it and rebuy it. Essentially to the cashier thats what price matching is.

[pgmgm]

I have one of these computers on hold at my local Staples. I see reference from a few folks on using coupons, but I don't know where these coupons are. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

[trellaine201]

I don't have the exact link but do a search in RFD for Staples and it will bring up a thread on COUPONS.

I also think there is a COUPON section on the top of this page, then look under Staples and you will find one.

Good luck.

[Thundercloud]

I have one of these computers on hold at my local Staples. I see reference from a few folks on using coupons, but I don't know where these coupons are. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389024

[OrdG]

Received... might have a wonky motherboard though, as the 320GB drive is reported as divided into a 50GB and a 10GB section, and even though pressing CAPS LOCK turns the CAPS light on the keyboard on or off, everything I type is in uppercase.... is this unit lemony fresh?

[raskal]

received mine today! not too bad for for the price with $70 worth of coupons!

thanks again OP!

[champ91]

I have one of these computers on hold at my local Staples. I see reference from a few folks on using coupons, but I don't know where these coupons are. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

i don't think you can use those coupons in store they are online only

[trellaine201]

Just got back from Bestbuy and wanted to ask some questions about Vista and is it true that VISTA will only run licensed software programs? Basically controlling what I want to download etc? torrents? :twisted:

Think I will stick with XP.

[champ91]

Just got back from Bestbuy and wanted to ask some questions about Vista and is it true that VISTA will only run licensed software programs? Basically controlling what I want to download etc? torrents? :twisted:

Think I will stick with XP.

no......as a matter of fact you can get vista that is not properly licensed

[trellaine201]

:confused: :confused:

So I can't buy a PC with Vista already installed then. ;)

[champ91]

:confused: :confused:

So I can't buy a PC with Vista already installed then. ;)

yes you can but make sure your old software will work with vista

best thing is to dual boot

[cruzer24]

Has anyone else had problem with there's? Everytime I install new software or reboot the computer it doesn't recognize the mouse and keyboard.

Is that a wonky motherboard? Or is that something else?

I end up having to boot up in safe mode then restarting to get it to work normally.

Any thoughts?

[spyhero]

Has anyone else had problem with there's? Everytime I install new software or reboot the computer it doesn't recognize the mouse and keyboard.

Is that a wonky motherboard? Or is that something else?

I end up having to boot up in safe mode then restarting to get it to work normally.

Any thoughts?

I guess this computer is not on clearance for no reason. ;)

[trellaine201]

Called yesterday to CS about my order and CS rep told me it would be delivered today.

Got home from work and a message on my machine stating the item is out of stock and that it was a clearance item and I wouldn't be getting it.

Talk about LOUSY communication. Don't they know when u place the order or didn't they know when I called to inquire about my order. :twisted:

Yikes!! Very disappointed with Stooooooples on this one. Might be the last time I deal with them.

[raskal]

Has anyone else had problem with there's? Everytime I install new software or reboot the computer it doesn't recognize the mouse and keyboard.

Is that a wonky motherboard? Or is that something else?

I end up having to boot up in safe mode then restarting to get it to work normally.

Any thoughts?

mine has been working flawlessly since it's first boot. Of course, it's been rebooted many times as I've been removing the junk software they put on these things (eg Norton) and then adding good things (eg AVG & Firefox)

I'd say you have a bad one, which is unfortunate cause I doubt they'd replace it (OOS), they'll just give you your money back.

[cruzer24]

mine has been working flawlessly since it's first boot. Of course, it's been rebooted many times as I've been removing the junk software they put on these things (eg Norton) and then adding good things (eg AVG & Firefox)

I'd say you have a bad one, which is unfortunate cause I doubt they'd replace it (OOS), they'll just give you your money back.

Yeah, I got rid of the crap and ran an update...did a restart...then it wouldn't recognize the keyboard and mouse.

I'll see if they have another one...but if not...no sweat off my back, as I really didn't need this...(i'll keep telling myself that)

[pei_boy]

Yeah, I got rid of the crap and ran an update...did a restart...then it wouldn't recognize the keyboard and mouse.

I'll see if they have another one...but if not...no sweat off my back, as I really didn't need this...(i'll keep telling myself that)



Get it fixed. You've got full warranty on it. If the deal is good enough it probably worth it.

[trellaine201]

Grrr I wish the store took these digit coupons lol. What a cheapskate eh? I would definitely buy it with $50 in coupons but OOS online.

They will order me one but at the $499 price.

Hmms...I might bite none the less.

[cruzer24]

Get it fixed. You've got full warranty on it. If the deal is good enough it probably worth it.

Hmm...as I was packing it away to go return it. I found that the cord for the keyboard was partially cut. Which now explains why the keyboard only worked intermittently.

Do you think I could go back and ask for a new keyboard?

[7-Endless]

Hmm...as I was packing it away to go return it. I found that the cord for the keyboard was partially cut. Which now explains why the keyboard only worked intermittently.

Do you think I could go back and ask for a new keyboard?

For sure or at least go and get some money back and buy a better keyboard and mouse.

[coolman217]

Grrr I wish the store took these digit coupons lol. What a cheapskate eh? I would definitely buy it with $50 in coupons but OOS online.

They will order me one but at the $499 price.

Hmms...I might bite none the less.

it's too bad unfortunately. i did have physical coupons but i threw it away cuz it was the old 20 off 200 crap that i don't really need.

[trellaine201]

That's ok, thanks. I went and bought it anyways. I will give it a test run for 13 days and see what I think. If I am not happy I will return it.

Only reason being I have read alot about Vista and it's problems. I am hoping everything will work with Vista. ;)

[cruzer24]

For sure or at least go and get some money back and buy a better keyboard and mouse.

Thanks for the advice! Just got back and got credit for a $40 logitech keyboard. Had to haggle a bit but got a fair deal.

[7-Endless]

Thanks for the advice! Just got back and got credit for a $40 logitech keyboard. Had to haggle a bit but got a fair deal.

Nice!! So how do you find the system so far?

[vazilioz]

The hard drive i got with my PC is a Seagate B. 10
The burner is a toshiba the ram Samsung PC 4200 and the worst is a 250W power supply. I still can't believe a company would install such garbage in a modern PC. I feel like installing plenty of hardware just to burn their cr@p so i can get an other one, and an other one .... for one year. Will still if it was worth it to save 5$ and no go with a 300w or 350W. Their version of windows vista is loaded with tons of useless software that makes the computer run like a turtle. The system is using ~650megs when none of my programs are running. That'san HP fresh install. The PC is pretty quiet but can't talk about speed until i format with a copied version of Vista. The layout of the motherbaord is also pretty nice almost looks like a btx.
The keyboard is nice but i don't like the feel of the keys and i won't talk about the ball mouse. If you can't apply coupons don't buy this computer, their are better deals elsewhere.

[raskal]

The hard drive i got with my PC is a Seagate B. 10
The burner is a toshiba

wow!... much better than mine... I have a Hitachi drive and a TSSTcorp DVD writer.

haven't looked at the rest, but now I'm scared to :D

[whatsinaname]

Did anyone else not get any backup CD's with the computer?

[Coolme]

Did anyone else not get any backup CD's with the computer?

They don't give backup CDs/DVDs anymore. They give you a backup partition.

[pmdoit]

If someone knows a way to overclock this one thanks to post here or pm me

[frankw]

wow!... much better than mine... I have a Hitachi drive and a TSSTcorp DVD writer.

haven't looked at the rest, but now I'm scared to :D

I got a Seagate ST3320820AS Barracuda 7200.10 and a Hitachi GSA-H20L burner.

[dryang]

HP is only good at printers. their pcs are crap. Dell pcs are better.

[tjuzer]

HP is only good at printers. their pcs are crap. Dell pcs are better.

I like people who make dumb statement like these

[dryang]

I like people who make dumb statement like these

i am just telling the truth? are you working for HP? just see how many refurb HP pcs futureshop are selling. they must be returned stuff from mad customers. lots of problems.

[tjuzer]

i am just telling the truth? are you working for HP? just see how many refurb HP pcs futureshop are selling. they must be returned stuff from mad customers. lots of problems.

Well your truth is wrong. You make no sense. I don't work for Hp. Both Dell and Hp use part from other company. None of them make themselves. They just put together. Maybe futureshop have contract for resell refurb computer. I don't see no problem. How do you know they are return from mad customer? All I see is you make bs statement with no backup. Show me article which support you.

[Hugh]

i am just telling the truth? are you working for HP? just see how many refurb HP pcs futureshop are selling. they must be returned stuff from mad customers. lots of problems.

I like inexpensive HP boxes. They are quieter than boxes I build myself. And cheaper. They seem reliable enough.

I have three refurb HPs that are fine. Even though they were sold as "debranded" by CWO three years ago. Really inexpensive. I admit that this is anecdotal.

I am typing this on a non-refurb HP from what turned out to be a price error of Staples (1.5 years old). It is fine.

I have no idea why FS has so many refurbs. And a lot of the same models. It must be something to do with how HP refurbishes.. BB and FS are probably only willing to buy a big batch -- selling onesies and twosies doesn't fit their business model. Perhaps HP accumulates a batch and then auctions them to big retailers.

For desktops, my tentative opinion of desktops is:

Dell is OK but their pricing games are complex. I never wanted a P4 so they were out of the running for years.
I just bought a cheap Acer (CompuSmart closing). Seems noisier and not quite as well built as my HPs (but I don't have any HPs from this year to make the match fair)
the few old eMachines that I have are OK: not as bad as their reputation
I avoided IBM for years because of excessive proprietariness.
my old Compaq business-class PII machines seem very solid. More so than my PIII business-class Dells (but again, the Dells are slightly newer: perhaps price squeezes reduced mechanical quality)

I run Linux on all my machines so my experience is through a different lens from that of a MS Windows user. Vista is harder to ignore on the Acer: it comes occupying all four primary partitions on the hard drive! I haven't figured out how to pry it off without losing it or activating it.

[spyhero]

This computer is horrible!:mad: I spent more than 2 hours just to set up and waiting for the Windows update, Norton update, system scan to complete. It is so slow compares to XP. Bottom line is, Vista sux!:mad:

[trellaine201]

I got mine on Friday night and I haven't had any problems......yet. I think running Vista should have 2GB Ram installed. That may help. I am gonna wait 10 more days and then decide. :)

[pmdoit]

This computer is horrible!:mad: I spent more than 2 hours just to set up and waiting for the Windows update, Norton update, system scan to complete. It is so slow compares to XP. Bottom line is, Vista sux!:mad:

Norton update, system scan to complete.= It is so slow

[raskal]

first thing I did with mine was delete Norton :)

what a piece of crud software that is!

AVG all the way!

[champ91]

This computer is horrible!:mad: I spent more than 2 hours just to set up and waiting for the Windows update, Norton update, system scan to complete. It is so slow compares to XP. Bottom line is, Vista sux!:mad:

so what are you complaining about? windows vista or the computer?

[spyhero]

so what are you complaining about? windows vista or the computer?

Both. But without sufficient ram, it makes Vista runs like crap!

[dryang]

i passed this on.feel lucky now

[raskal]

whatever guys... :confused:


I'm running this system now, on Vista, with the orig 1GB ram and am loving it.
Quietest system I've ever had. Once I add a DVI card and a wireless kb/mouse, I think I'll move the system into the next room so it'll be completely quiet :D

[trellaine201]

Hmmm I am noticing my web browsing running slower than my previous PC. I have installed an extra 1gb RAM but still finding it hiccupping.

I think may try and return it and get a faster processor. I think that must be the problem.

Or is Vista just plain Slow?

[ricky13579]

i would suggest you removing the add on like HP games, office and such...

i added 2GB ram, and i also turn off a lot of visual effect (my habit). I found the machine pretty fast.

[trellaine201]

So how much RAM in total do you have? How do I turn off all that stuff?

What I did notice was a big change when surfing with torrnet running and when torrent off.

I never had that problem on previous PC. Would another 1gb of RAM help or is this processor just not fast enough?
Thanks

[ricky13579]

i have 3 Gb in total, i think it's kind of kills though. I uninstall office, symantec firewall, the HP hotkey program, HP cap lock , real player... whatever..

you can turn off the display effects by editing the advance properties display property menu.