Verbatim DVD+R 2X25-pack $9.98 @ FactoryDirect

[Slant]

Found this deal from the FactoryDirect flyer today. Runs from July 7-20.

They're 8X DVD+R's. Works out to $20 for 100!!

[BillsFan]

Hot...but shipping makes it very cool. Does anywhere sell these that will pricematch? I check FS, they don't have this manufacturer model number.

[Slant]

Hot...but shipping makes it very cool. Does anywhere sell these that will pricematch? I check FS, they don't have this manufacturer model number.

They have B&M stores in Ontario so no shipping if you can get to an actual store. I guess it's cool for you as you're in Quebec >:(

[fyrefly]

These are Verbatim "Digital Movie" DVD-R's. They seem to be MCC discs, at least according to videohelp.com:

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia/verbatim-digitalmovie-dvd-r-mcc-01rg20-4/1615#comments

So these should be good discs. If you like that Movie Reel thingie on the top.

http://factorydirect.ca/images/specs/VE4865.jpg

http://factorydirect.ca/catalog/product_spec.php?pcode=VE4865

[audit13]

They show up at $8.99/25 here:

http://factorydirect.ca/catalog/product_spec.php?pcode=VE4865

Is this an unadvertised special?

[nsx]

They show up at $8.99/25 here:

http://factorydirect.ca/catalog/product_spec.php?pcode=VE4865

Is this an unadvertised special?


Here's the coupon:

http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/combo_spec.php?pcode=FC8820&id=155

[audit13]

Here's the coupon:

http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/combo_spec.php?pcode=FC8820&id=155

Cool. Thanks for the link:)

[nsx]

Cool. Thanks for the link:)

You're welcome. ;)

[SaraLee]

These are Verbatim "Digital Movie" DVD-R's. They seem to be MCC discs, at least according to videohelp.com:

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia/verbatim-digitalmovie-dvd-r-mcc-01rg20-4/1615#comments

So these should be good discs. If you like that Movie Reel thingie on the top.

http://factorydirect.ca/images/specs/VE4865.jpg

http://factorydirect.ca/catalog/product_spec.php?pcode=VE4865

I think this is the correct link:

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia/verbatim-digitalmovie-dvd-r-mcc-003-8/4172

MCC003. Can anyone verify?

[mok86]

What's DD's take on these discs?

[cywhiz]

How are these compared to the Futureshop ones? For this price, it is pretty cheap...

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10088881&catid=12501

Is coupon needed or do I just go instore and buy?

[mathu]

yes these are a good price for 2 and u need the coupon to get that price.

heres another a good deal for mini dV's http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/combo_spec.php?pcode=FC8824&id=155

batteries
http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/combo_spec.php?pcode=FC8823&id=155

SD and compact flash cards (cannot mix and match) *this deal really good for compact flash cards
http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/combo_spec.php?pcode=FC8819&id=155

vista ready keyboards
http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/combo_spec.php?pcode=FC8817&id=155

PORTABLE NYLON CAMPING FOLDNG CHAIR
http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/combo_spec.php?pcode=FC8816&id=155

MONSTER CABLE 6 OUTLET POWER BAR
http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/combo_spec.php?pcode=FC8815&id=155

WALLET 320 CD CASE plus free VERBATIM DVD+R 4.7GB 4X 5PK w/JEWEL
http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/combo_spec.php?pcode=FC8830&id=155

these are the coupons so enjoy these great deals

[cywhiz]

yes these are a good price for 2 and u need the coupon to get that price.

heres another a good deal for mini dV's http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/combo_spec.php?pcode=FC8824&id=155

batteries
http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/combo_spec.php?pcode=FC8823&id=155

SD and compact flash cards (cannot mix and match) *this deal really good for compact flash cards
http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/combo_spec.php?pcode=FC8819&id=155

vista ready keyboards
http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/combo_spec.php?pcode=FC8817&id=155

PORTABLE NYLON CAMPING FOLDNG CHAIR
http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/combo_spec.php?pcode=FC8816&id=155

MONSTER CABLE 6 OUTLET POWER BAR
http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/combo_spec.php?pcode=FC8815&id=155

WALLET 320 CD CASE plus free VERBATIM DVD+R 4.7GB 4X 5PK w/JEWEL
http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/combo_spec.php?pcode=FC8830&id=155

these are the coupons so enjoy these great dealsWow, $3.33 for a new Logitech keyboard is pretty cheap, but I think they are probably generic Logitech, not the "normal" Logitech...Never knew the prices of keyboards have came down that low...

[audit13]

I went to the Mississauga/Dundas store and they only had the 25-packs of 4x Verbatim Digital Movie dvd+r in stock. The salesperson said the 8x haven't arrived.

[rabbit]

The 4x movie reel ones I got from Staples a long time ago, which came in Super Jewel Boxes, were MCC002, Made in Singapore

[audit13]

The 4x movie reel ones I got from Staples a long time ago, which came in Super Jewel Boxes, were MCC002, Made in Singapore

The 4x dvd-r I got from Staples were MIT but the 4x dvd+r were MIS.

The 4x 25-pack dvd+r spindles I saw in the Mississauga/Dundas store were MIT.

[pgfreak]

how are these? I know Verbatim is good, but I hate factory direct because they tend to sell refurbs or screw you somehow with their products.

Are these only for video, or can I store data on them like normal blank DVDs (as in creating data disks with files on them).

[addicted2it]

What's DD's take on these discs?

Would love to hear DDs opinion on this before I buy any..gotta love D.D...great guy..gets my vote for the Most helpful/knowledgebale RFDer.

[rabbit]

Are these only for video, or can I store data on them like normal blank DVDs (as in creating data disks with files on them).

They're just regular DVD Rs. The video reel is just for show, like those CD-Rs that look like vinyl 7" singles.


PS. Forgot to mention in my previous post (MCC002 MIS) that it was +Rs I bought.

[Pete Jones]

BTW, you do not need a coupon to buy these.

--Pete

[Slant]

The flyer didn't mention a coupon was required but someone here posted a link to one. I guess to be safe you might want to print it & bring it along...

[Pete Jones]

I bought 6 of them and no coupon was required.

--Pete

[audit13]

I bought 6 of them and no coupon was required.

--Pete

Which store did you get them from? Did you get a chance to check the media code?

[Pete Jones]

I picked up 2 from the downtown store on Thursday, and got another 4 from the Kitchener store on Saturday.

Haven't had a chance to look at them yet.

--Pete

[to1337ca]

Can DD give his opinion on these discs?

[digdoug]

I picked up 2 from the downtown store on Thursday, and got another 4 from the Kitchener store on Saturday.

Haven't had a chance to look at them yet.

--Pete

can you give a scan and tell us what results you get? I wonder if they're as good as the Verbatim +R MIT (TNR font).

[cmge]

How are these compared to the Futureshop ones? For this price, it is pretty cheap...

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10088881&catid=12501

id like to know this as well...

[parry]

Any feedback on these DVD's? Are these any good for the price? How good is the media code on these?

[The Digital Dolphin]

Well, I would say these are likely to perform exactly the same as the previous Verbatim 4x DVD+Rs that were $0.20ea... only those ones came with Jewel Cases also, but didn't have the funky film reel surface. (I think you can still get that deal too actually)

That is to say, they should perform quite well, and some older DVD burners will burn them as fast as 8x. My BenQ DW1640 with overspeed enabled has gotten 12x out of them (but I wouldn't overly recommend it).

[mok86]

wow! good stuff....i'm going to get some

[Siefer999]

wow! good stuff....i'm going to get some

yup, now that it has DD's blessing, im in for a few packs

[parry]

Its Out of Stock everywhere except Kitchener and London

[pogs]

so which is better DVD-R or DVD+R? what do most people use/prefer and why?

TIA :cheesygri

[The Digital Dolphin]

so which is better DVD-R or DVD+R? what do most people use/prefer and why?

TIA :cheesygri

They are pretty equal these days. DVD-R might be slightly more compatible with players that are 6+ years old. DVD+RW and DVD+RDL however are *FAR* superior to their DVD-R equivilants however. (Although 8x DVD+RW has a few issues).

[pgfreak]

and why exactly would +R be superior? I find them the same.
I like -R better.

[Pr0metheus]

These are OOS everywhere I'm able to go :(

[The Digital Dolphin]

and why exactly would +R be superior? I find them the same.
I like -R better.

I said specifically DVD+RW and DVD+RDL were superior to their DVD-R counterparts, namely DVD-RW and DVD-RDL (And the first thing I said was DVD-R and DVD+R were pretty equal these days). Why? Well the DVD+RW format has a lot of technical improvements over DVD-RW, it's generally faster, cheaper and easier to manufacture with good quality, and because of bitsetting is quite a bit more compatible even these days.

DVD+RDL and DVD-RDL is hardly even a competition however. DVD-RDL is so incredibly incompatible with existing devices that the media is all but discontinued in most places outside of Japan. The quality is generally lower, the compatability is probably close to half of DVD+RDL's, and the pricing is usually higher also. Really, there is no reason at all to use DVD-RDL.

[tangreen]

These are OOS everywhere I'm able to go :(

On line says that most of the places have it In Stock.

[mok86]

On line says that most of the places have it In Stock.

they're lying to you :P haha i went to college yest apparently they havent had stock for a while...estimated arrival date was yest....but nothing was there....

[Pete Jones]

I usually don't take the stock count as gospel.

When I picked up my disks last Thursday (they had a reasonable supply) I was actually going to the downtown FD to pick up the a laptop car DC power supply. The website said they had two in stock. When they finally found them, there were actually 5. :)

--Pete

[parry]

These puppies are back in Stock. I bought some from Mississauga location today. They still had plently like 30-40 packs on shelves.

[wing0]

These puppies are back in Stock. I bought some from Mississauga location today. They still had plently like 30-40 packs on shelves.

4X or 8X?

[to1337ca]

yep, they are back in stock in downtown toronto store.

BUT, these spindle are DIFFERENT! they are from TAWIAN not SINGAPORE!!!!!

the reorder # on the UPC is 94865 and UPC is 23942 94865.

Nero CD-DVD speed showed manufacturer Verbatim and code MCC002 with recording speed up to 8X (instead of 4X said on the spindle)

can someone (esp Digital Dolphin) comment on these new MIT spindle in terms of quality, particularly when compared to the MIS (singapore)?

[digdoug]

yep, they are back in stock in downtown toronto store.

BUT, these spindle are DIFFERENT! they are from TAWIAN not SINGAPORE!!!!!

the reorder # on the UPC is 94865 and UPC is 23942 94865.

Nero CD-DVD speed showed manufacturer Verbatim and code MCC002 with recording speed up to 8X (instead of 4X said on the spindle)

can someone (esp Digital Dolphin) comment on these new MIT spindle in terms of quality, particularly when compared to the MIS (singapore)?

yeah, I just picked up the mcc002 UPC 23942 94865 spindles today. They're MIT and the scans so far are so-so, not great. :mad:

since no one's willing to scan and post, here is one. there seems to be a noticeable jump in the jitter after the first 10% in all the ones I've burned so far. here's a typical scan (burned 4x & scanned on a Benq DW 1655 - BCIB). The "reel" look top makes it hard to write on. Did the MIS ones also hae the reel tops? Woulda loved to have gotten the MIS ones.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8731/mcc002benq4xdvdbcib12ndhp8.png

I used ImgBurn and it only showed 2.4 & 4x as possible speeds.

[The Digital Dolphin]

yeah, I just picked up the mcc002 UPC 23942 94865 spindles today. They're MIT and the scans so far are so-so, not great. :mad:

since no one's willing to scan and post, here is one. there seems to be a noticeable jump in the jitter after the first 10% in all the ones I've burned so far. here's a typical scan (burned 4x & scanned on a Benq DW 1655 - BCIB). The "reel" look top makes it hard to write on. Did the MIS ones also hae the reel tops? Woulda loved to have gotten the MIS ones.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8731/mcc002benq4xdvdbcib12ndhp8.png

I used ImgBurn and it only showed 2.4 & 4x as possible speeds.

The jitter is likely a result of your drive's burn strategy and the media in combination. Another model would behave differently I'd expect. Still 10% jitter is not BAD, it's just not as good as one would expect from 4x recording. If you use Qsuite to enable overspeed you can get 6x or 8x recording out of those discs though (but probably at the cost of burn quality).

Those results aren't that bad. Honestly, I've seen very little difference between MIS and MIT 4x DVD+Rs from Verbatim (at least in the initial burns, I haven't had any burned for any real length of time to check for long term differences). Although I was looking at CMC MIT vs MIS, so Prodisc MIT might not be quite as good.

[to1337ca]

DD,

about the nero speed output,

what about the PIFmax of 6? that is not that good considering the pedigree of these so-called verbatim discs, esp if burning only at 4x? i expect it to be much lower.

isn't PIF max much more important stat than jitter? PIF is much less dependent on the burner itself and more reflective of the quality of the disc, isn't it?

[The Digital Dolphin]

DD,

about the nero speed output,

what about the PIFmax of 6? that is not that good considering the pedigree of these so-called verbatim discs, esp if burning only at 4x? i expect it to be much lower.

isn't PIF max much more important stat than jitter? PIF is much less dependent on the burner itself and more reflective of the quality of the disc, isn't it?

This is really hard to answer. It's probably easiest to say that inturpretting a quality scan is more of an art then a science in some ways. I can't say that PIF Max scores are not important... but they certainly aren't the be-all and end-all of the scan itself.

Looking at the technical side of things, the maximum error rates are:

PIsum8 - 280 max
PIFsum1 - 4 max
Jitter - <12% max
(there are no written maximums for average values)

But each drive inturprets the disc differently. Your BenQ DW1655 might report a max PIE of 60, someone else's BenQ DW1655 might report an 85, and someone else's BenQ DW1640 might report a 43. Which one is right?? Well, in some ways NONE of them are (or on the other hand, all of them are). Since each drive only reports its' own perspective of the disc, and no consumer drive is specifically calibrated to test media against the standards that we're comparing the results to. So like I said, it's a bit more of an art then a science. On top of that, BenQ don't report PIFsum1, they report PIFsum8, which means the results shown are the combination of 8 ECC blocks, instead of 1. That means that if each ECC block reports 1 PIF error, it will show a spike of 8, whereas a Lite-On or Plextor might show only 1 PIF error (since they report in PIFsum1).

So when you see a spike of 4 PIF errors on a BenQ scan, that means that out of the 8 ECC blocks that make up that single error spike, it could be 1 ECC block with 4 errors, or it could be 2 ECC blocks with 2 errors each, or it could be 4 ECC blocks with 1 error each. You have no way of knowing. Although looking at the overall average error rate will help you get a jist of things to an extent.

So in the end, you really need to look at a combination of things, including both Max scores, and average scores, from PI errors, PIF errors and Jitter.

I hope that helps a little.... hopefully I haven't just confused everyone even further!

[CheapoFillipo]

I just bought some at Brampton location (the movie reel ones). They are 4X and there is a little note on shelf saying the "flyer was incorrect, they are 4X not 8X"

a bunch left on shelf

oh well, still dirt cheap in my mind... sorry do not know what Arial vs Times New Roman fonts look like so i do not know where they are made.