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v82slo
Jul 5th, 2007, 08:32 PM
Hi all,

I'm going to buy my first Brand new car as I'm driving across GTA and will need a cheap, gas miser.

I want the new Honda Civic and realize that the 2008's will be coming out soon.

Anyone know when I can order a 2008 Civic (dates of preorders)?
Should I consider the Civic Hybrid (how close is price after gov rebates)?

Also if you have recommendations on dealers (PM me if you can get me a deal) or which options I should order very much appreciated. I want the Civic sedan (4dr) with automatic + air conditioning (that's all).

pfbmgd
Jul 5th, 2007, 09:06 PM
There will be no difference between the 07 and 08 /The Civic was just redesigned in 06.Best deal are to be had just before they release the 08s.

ralliart123
Jul 5th, 2007, 09:51 PM
As for Hybrid, I heard that the Dealers jacked up the price of Hybrids as soon as they heard that the government will give you back $5000 (I think it's $5000). So your not really getting anything back from the government now, pretty much.

In the long run the hybrid will be cheaper though.

Nightgod
Jul 5th, 2007, 10:18 PM
Hi all,

I'm going to buy my first Brand new car as I'm driving across GTA and will need a cheap, gas miser.

I want the new Honda Civic and realize that the 2008's will be coming out soon.

Anyone know when I can order a 2008 Civic (dates of preorders)?
Should I consider the Civic Hybrid (how close is price after gov rebates)?

Also if you have recommendations on dealers (PM me if you can get me a deal) or which options I should order very much appreciated. I want the Civic sedan (4dr) with automatic + air conditioning (that's all).


If I was you I would buy last years (07) brand new model to save some money.

As for Hybrid, I heard that the Dealers jacked up the price of Hybrids as soon as they heard that the government will give you back $5000 (I think it's $5000). So your not really getting anything back from the government now, pretty much.

In the long run the hybrid will be cheaper though.


How do you figure that?
Let say
Hybrid cost $8,000 more then a Normal car and you will save 1,000 a year in gas it would take you 8 years to make back your money.

On top of that Hybrid battery you have to change every so many years, so let say you have to change the battery ever 9 years and it would cost you $3,000.


I don't know about you but I would rather stick with my non-hybrid car or until the prices of Hybird come down

v82slo
Jul 5th, 2007, 10:33 PM
The deals I can see for '07 is 1.9% financing. I'm probably going to opt to buy the car outright (cash) so feel the '08 will have better resale when I want to sell it (i.e. a equivalent '08-'07, 5 years from now may have a $2k price difference). Unless the dealer is willing to sell me an '07 for $2-$3k less then I can buy a '08 for I'll wait (I've heard I can order at end of July for Sept deliveries).

As for the Hybrid cost vs regular civic cost difference, from the Honda website the Civic I want is listed $24,500 (out the door) compared to the Hybrid at $31,300 (out the door). Subtract the govmnt rebate ($2k) means a $4k difference in price. Maybe worth it but will have calculate the long term costs.

Thanks for all the input and keep the opinions coming.

ralliart123
Jul 5th, 2007, 10:39 PM
If I was you I would buy last years (07) brand new model to save some money.




How do you figure that?
Let say
Hybrid cost $8,000 more then a Normal car and you will save 1,000 a year in gas it would take you 8 years to make back your money.

On top of that Hybrid battery you have to change every so many years, so let say you have to change the battery ever 9 years and it would cost you $3,000.


I don't know about you but I would rather stick with my non-hybrid car or until the prices of Hybird come down

Thats what I heard from people who drive them. I dont drive a Hybrid myself.

VivienM
Jul 5th, 2007, 10:50 PM
The deals I can see for '07 is 1.9% financing.

Honda may be different, but some manufacturers will offer a choice of low-interest financing OR a roughly-equivalent ca$h rebate.

Madrid2k
Jul 7th, 2007, 01:03 AM
The payback or r.o.i. on a Civic Hybrid will take many years - even with the government rebate.

So, from a financial standpoint, it only makes sense to get the Hybrid if you plan on keeping it for a long time.

However, some people are motivated to buy Hybrid vehicles so they will create less of an "ecological" footprint, and aren't overly concerned about spending a couple of extra thousand to be more environmentally responsible.

For me, a Honda Civic on its own is already pretty environmentally friendly.

In regards to which model year to buy, you have to balance out the upfront cost savings of buying an 07, vs. the higher resale of an 08.

As stated in an earlier post, the 07's will have more attractive incentives and/or financing rates. But, if you are paying cash, I think you could get a comparable deal on an 08.

PM me and I'll refer you to a General Manager of a west end Honda dealership. He always give my friends and family $400 - $500 over invoice.

Good luck.

greg123
Jul 7th, 2007, 09:22 PM
There will be no difference between the 07 and 08 /The Civic was just redesigned in 06.Best deal are to be had just before they release the 08s.

08 civics will get tire monitoring system/gauge

B0000rt
Jul 7th, 2007, 09:29 PM
08 civics will get tire monitoring system/gauge
Fuel economy will be adjusted also, yielding 'lower' values.

I believe the '07 Manual Transmission qualifies for some sort of government rebate.

jacky76
Jul 8th, 2007, 01:29 AM
The payback or r.o.i. on a Civic Hybrid will take many years - even with the government rebate.

So, from a financial standpoint, it only makes sense to get the Hybrid if you plan on keeping it for a long time.

However, some people are motivated to buy Hybrid vehicles so they will create less of an "ecological" footprint, and aren't overly concerned about spending a couple of extra thousand to be more environmentally responsible.

For me, a Honda Civic on its own is already pretty environmentally friendly.

In regards to which model year to buy, you have to balance out the upfront cost savings of buying an 07, vs. the higher resale of an 08.

As stated in an earlier post, the 07's will have more attractive incentives and/or financing rates. But, if you are paying cash, I think you could get a comparable deal on an 08.

PM me and I'll refer you to a General Manager of a west end Honda dealership. He always give my friends and family $400 - $500 over invoice.

Good luck.


Are you in Toronto? Do u mean the dealership on Markham road and Finch?

greg123
Jul 8th, 2007, 10:17 AM
Fuel economy will be adjusted also, yielding 'lower' values.

I believe the '07 Manual Transmission qualifies for some sort of government rebate.

07 manual civics except the SI will get $1000 rebate

handy80
Sep 14th, 2007, 08:05 PM
07 manual civics except the SI will get $1000 rebate

The deals I can see for '07 is 1.9% financing. I'm probably going to opt to buy the car outright (cash) so feel the '08 will have better resale when I want to sell it (i.e. a equivalent '08-'07, 5 years from now may have a $2k price difference). Unless the dealer is willing to sell me an '07 for $2-$3k less then I can buy a '08 for I'll wait (I've heard I can order at end of July for Sept deliveries).

As for the Hybrid cost vs regular civic cost difference, from the Honda website the Civic I want is listed $24,500 (out the door) compared to the Hybrid at $31,300 (out the door). Subtract the govmnt rebate ($2k) means a $4k difference in price. Maybe worth it but will have calculate the long term costs.

Thanks for all the input and keep the opinions coming.


I preordered an 08 Civic SI for 30K plus the difference between 07 and 08. It really does wonders if you have a friend that works at Honda.

Maxspeed
Sep 14th, 2007, 08:25 PM
i went to a few dealerships in the GTA and they told me that they are sold out of 07 LX models and 08s will be in 3-4 weeks.

ch1zo
Sep 14th, 2007, 09:08 PM
Hi all,

I'm going to buy my first Brand new car as I'm driving across GTA and will need a cheap, gas miser.

I want the new Honda Civic and realize that the 2008's will be coming out soon.

Anyone know when I can order a 2008 Civic (dates of preorders)?
Should I consider the Civic Hybrid (how close is price after gov rebates)?

Also if you have recommendations on dealers (PM me if you can get me a deal) or which options I should order very much appreciated. I want the Civic sedan (4dr) with automatic + air conditioning (that's all).

if you are in the richmond hill area i can hook you up with my guy at honda, only if you are REALLY interested, so please dont waste his time or mine.

azndoughboi
Sep 16th, 2007, 12:01 AM
Here are the details outlining changes from 2007 to 2008 model

this is taken from a civic enthusiast forum:

2008 Civic Coupes New Features

DX : Stays the same
DX-A : Adds A/C to DX Model
DX-G : Adds Cruise Control, 15" Alloy Wheels
LX : Adds Keyless Trunk Opener
LX-SR : Adds Sunroof, Rear Disc Brakes to LX
EX-L :Adds Keyless Trunk Opener, Leather Seats, Heated Seats
Si : Adds Keyless Trunk Opener

2008 Civic Sedans New Features

DX : Trunk Lip Spoiler
DX-A : Adds A/C to DX Model
DX-G : Adds Cruise Control, 15" Alloys, Trunk Lip Spoiler
LX : Keyless Trunk Opener, 60/40 Rear Split Seats, Rear Armrest, Trunk Lip Spoiler
LX-SR : Adds Sunroof, Rear Disc Brakes to LX
EX-L : Adds Keyless Trunk Opener, Leather, Heated Seats, Trunk Lip Spoiler
Hybrid : Adds Keyless Trunk Opener
Si : New for 2008

PRICES

Coupes

DX 5MT ----------- 17,190
DX 5AT ----------- 18,390
DX-A 5MT -------- 18,490
DX-A 5AT ---------19,690
DX-G 5MT --------- 19,780
DX-G 5AT ---------- 20,980
LX 5MT ------------ 21,280
LX 5AT ------------ 22,480
LX-SR 5MT -------- 22,180
LX-SR 5AT -------- 23,380
EX-L 5MT --------- 23,780
EX-L 5AT --------- 24,980
Si ---------------- 26,680

Sedans

DX 5MT ---------- 16,990
DX 5AT ----------- 18,190
DX-A 5MT -------- 18,290
DX-A 5AT -------- 19,490
DX-G 5MT -------- 19,480
DX-G 5AT --------- 20,680
LX 5MT ----------- 20,980
LX 5AT ----------- 22,180
LX-SR 5MT ------- 21,880
LX-SR 5AT ------- 23,080
EX-L 5MT -------- 23,480
EX-L 5AT -------- 24,680
Si ---------------- 26,680
Hybrid ------------ 26,350

AirBosh
Sep 16th, 2007, 02:45 AM
I know the 2008 Honda civic will have leather seats called Ex-L.

Any idea if the civics for 2008 will have the navi system like our Amercian honda civics?

ch1zo
Sep 16th, 2007, 12:46 PM
I know the 2008 Honda civic will have leather seats called Ex-L.

Any idea if the civics for 2008 will have the navi system like our Amercian honda civics?

i believe the acura csx's only get that option in canada:mad:

m4gician
Sep 16th, 2007, 04:47 PM
If I was you I would buy last years (07) brand new model to save some money.




How do you figure that?
Let say
Hybrid cost $8,000 more then a Normal car and you will save 1,000 a year in gas it would take you 8 years to make back your money.

On top of that Hybrid battery you have to change every so many years, so let say you have to change the battery ever 9 years and it would cost you $3,000.


I don't know about you but I would rather stick with
my non-hybrid car or until the prices of Hybird come down







The key thing is he is doing his part for the environment by reducing his carbon emissions. If everyone drove hybrid cars, we lower our foreign dependancy for oil, reduce our economic footprint overall as a nation,

the differences are small on the field level, but overall it's very much a difference.

That being said, I hate dealers (jacking up price)

UrbanPoet
Sep 16th, 2007, 04:59 PM
does the si sedan come in Automatic?

advantage21
Sep 16th, 2007, 07:28 PM
does the si sedan come in Automatic?

Nope, it's stick only.