View Full Version : It's time for another "Chinese car fails crash test" thread
neilson
Jul 5th, 2007, 02:06 AM
We all remember that crappy Isuzu Rodeo/Honda Passport ripoff that failed the crashtests 2 years ago and I figure that it's only timely that we show off another of China's great automotive reverse-engineering feats.
I give you the Brilliance BS6:
http://www.wheels.ca/images/assets/29432_4.JPG
http://www.wheels.ca/article/29408
Crash Test Video(in German): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9RbZyrJQ4g
trixstar
Jul 5th, 2007, 02:22 AM
ouch.. i think part of the windshield has sliced the dude's head inside.. sad...
Evil Techie
Jul 5th, 2007, 02:42 AM
wow the A pillar is like softer than the door frame!
its as if the car was designed to kill whoever is inside when it gets into a crash...
trixstar
Jul 5th, 2007, 03:10 AM
i've seen a bunch of chinese car videos on youtube.. all the crash results were similar. if u ever wanna buy a chinese car, u better think twice about safety and reliability..
my family from back home in vietnam used to have chinese made "Lifon" brand motorcycles. one almost died when the from wheel reinforcements broke and the wheels flew out.. this was common for lifon motorcycles..
they definitely took the term "disposable cars" too seriously..
NDman
Jul 5th, 2007, 03:24 AM
Well, the car is called BS... what do you expect???
Flyer
Jul 5th, 2007, 03:40 AM
At least death should be relatively swift...
trixstar
Jul 5th, 2007, 04:13 AM
Well, the car is called BS... what do you expect???
its BS number 6.. just like the rest in its class
march9
Jul 5th, 2007, 07:50 AM
This car is already on sale in German market that means it passed the safety test for new cars in Germany.
This crash is done by a German auto club (ADAC), they apparently have higher standard than the government regulation bodies.
Using a catchy title without giving proper context is misleading, IMO.
akito925
Jul 5th, 2007, 08:24 AM
wow the A pillar is like softer than the door frame!
its as if the car was designed to kill whoever is inside when it gets into a crash...
also the car the bottom of the frame also gotten bent.
GangStarr
Jul 5th, 2007, 08:26 AM
no suprise, a chinese car wasnt on my xmas wish list anyways
teknoluv
Jul 5th, 2007, 08:58 AM
The best way to stop Chinese cars from landing a success here sooner is actually to NOT talk about them at all. They WILL make better cars sooner or later anyway.
ZenOps
Jul 5th, 2007, 09:40 AM
i've seen a bunch of chinese car videos on youtube.. all the crash results were similar. if u ever wanna buy a chinese car, u better think twice about safety and reliability..
my family from back home in vietnam used to have chinese made "Lifon" brand motorcycles. one almost died when the from wheel reinforcements broke and the wheels flew out.. this was common for lifon motorcycles..
they definitely took the term "disposable cars" too seriously..
Wheel nuts break all the time...
http://www.break.com/index/when-drifting-goes-bad.html
Thing is, people don't realize that engines have far outpaced the tensile strength of steel. You cannot just gun an engine on any vehicle and expect the wheel nuts to not fly off.
Pro and streetside racers will often replace their wheelnuts every 6 months, even more than oil changes usually. The million dollar racetrack cars will have one huge nut in the center which is an order of 100x stonger than having several small nuts (of which it is sometimes replaced several times over the period of a race, along with the entire tire at a pitstop.)
ZenOps
Jul 5th, 2007, 09:49 AM
Bent frame = bad.
Large crumple zones around the car = good.
The more beat up the car looks on the outside usually means the passenger inside is safe. If the car looks pristine after the crash, you can pretty well assume the person inside is toast.
What it looks like is that the dummy missed the center of the airbag, thats the main issue. But it also looks like the car is not perpendicular to the crash, the front tire in relation to the back tire basically shows it as a turning test and not a direct head on collision (15 degree deflection?)
Might be remediable with a side airbag, or moving the airbag an inch to one side or making it slightly larger.
trixstar
Jul 5th, 2007, 03:58 PM
Wheel nuts break all the time...
http://www.break.com/index/when-drifting-goes-bad.html
Thing is, people don't realize that engines have far outpaced the tensile strength of steel. You cannot just gun an engine on any vehicle and expect the wheel nuts to not fly off.
Pro and streetside racers will often replace their wheelnuts every 6 months, even more than oil changes usually. The million dollar racetrack cars will have one huge nut in the center which is an order of 100x stonger than having several small nuts (of which it is sometimes replaced several times over the period of a race, along with the entire tire at a pitstop.)
ohh not the wheel nuts.. its the bar that holds the wheel in place.. that broke off.. its like a bicycle.. u know that two rods that hold the wheel in place??? its that. not the bolts..
sshe11
Jul 5th, 2007, 04:29 PM
Wheel nuts break all the time...
http://www.break.com/index/when-drifting-goes-bad.html
Thing is, people don't realize that engines have far outpaced the tensile strength of steel. You cannot just gun an engine on any vehicle and expect the wheel nuts to not fly off.
Pro and streetside racers will often replace their wheelnuts every 6 months, even more than oil changes usually. The million dollar racetrack cars will have one huge nut in the center which is an order of 100x stonger than having several small nuts (of which it is sometimes replaced several times over the period of a race, along with the entire tire at a pitstop.)
I don't think the wheel nuts broke .. they weren't tightened properly in the first place, read the comments ...
Neb
Jul 6th, 2007, 08:39 AM
I think it is an offset test, simulating a head on collision if somebody crossed the midline on an undivided highway. Hence the wheel looks bent. Don't think they do 15 degree deflection as a standard test.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9RbZyrJQ4g
here is a video of the crashtest
Bent frame = bad.
Large crumple zones around the car = good.
The more beat up the car looks on the outside usually means the passenger inside is safe. If the car looks pristine after the crash, you can pretty well assume the person inside is toast.
What it looks like is that the dummy missed the center of the airbag, thats the main issue. But it also looks like the car is not perpendicular to the crash, the front tire in relation to the back tire basically shows it as a turning test and not a direct head on collision (15 degree deflection?)
Might be remediable with a side airbag, or moving the airbag an inch to one side or making it slightly larger.