[Merged] Petition - Abolish front plate in Ontario

[Jeff-TheBiz]

Hey...

Please sign up and tell your friends..

Thanx for your help..

PETITION!!!!! (http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Ont_Front_Plate/index.html)

[bobbings]

but we got use to having front plates, it looks ugly imo if we get rid of it.

[tidus888]

ok.. imo.. a lot of EU cars need front lic plate.

but if you are talking about USDM... screw the front lic plate..


i guess they don't have to take it out.. but just don't make it mandatory!

[Jon Lai]

I dont' see the point of this petition. You can legally drive a car without the front license plate anyways.

[Atomic Chip]

bobbings, if you still want to have a front license plate, you could easily purchase and mount one of those novelty plates (http://www.customlicenseplates.com/customlicenseplates.html) that say your name, the type of car, or whatever other info. you desire.

[rob187jj]

I dont' see the point of this petition. You can legally drive a car without the front license plate anyways.


are u sure?

[mdc]

I dont' see the point of this petition. You can legally drive a car without the front license plate anyways.

you are wrong ... 100% wrong (at least in Ontario)

[Atomic Chip]

I dont' see the point of this petition. You can legally drive a car without the front license plate anyways.

Really? In Ontario (which is the petition is all about), "The number plates for a motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle or a motor assisted bicycle, shall be attached to and exposed in a conspicuous position on the front and rear of the motor vehicle". Vehicle Permits Regulations, R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 628, subsection 9(3).

[onecoolloser]

I like Euro plates for some reason... i dunno why.. lol.

[mdc]

most ricers do

[sol1964]

I dont' see the point of this petition. You can legally drive a car without the front license plate anyways.
In Ontario, you are legally required to have a front plate. I know because I was given a ticket for not having it on.

The front plate is a total waste. On top of being ugly, it usually damages the front bumper.

[Atomic Chip]

most ricers do


Wha .... :confused: :confused: :confused:

[cwb27]

I dont' see the point of this petition. You can legally drive a car without the front license plate anyways.

You got a source for this? As the HTA states that your issued plate must be displayed on the front of the vehicle.

[onecoolloser]

most ricers do

Uhh...interesting..

[Badman]

I find cars look a lot nicer without the front license plate. So im all up for this.

[MkmBandit]

I like Euro plates for some reason... i dunno why.. lol.

most ricers do

Wha .... :confused: :confused: :confused:

Uhh...interesting..

LOL yah seriously.. I too fail to see how euro plates are rice. :confused:

[bobbings]

i think we should have plates on the sides of the cars as well lol jk

so if you're from quebec and you drive into ontario, the cops will let you off because quebec cars don't have a front plate? does that apply for window tinting? each province have their own jurisdiction in regards to tinting. so if i were to go to another province where they do not permit a certain percentage tint but i go over that since ontario is vague with their law, do i get let off by the cops there?

[TenzoR]

I think we should get rid of plates all together and just RFID the car.

[ES_Revenge]

so if you're from quebec and you drive into ontario, the cops will let you off because quebec cars don't have a front plate? does that apply for window tinting? each province have their own jurisdiction in regards to tinting. so if i were to go to another province where they do not permit a certain percentage tint but i go over that since ontario is vague with their law, do i get let off by the cops there?
Of course, principle of comity applies here especailly considering it's something as [relatively] trivial as motor vehicle regulations. Same thing goes for the US even... In states where no tint is allowed period (some states are like this, e.g. MI where you can't have any tint at all on front windows), if your car is from outside their jurisdiction they aren't going to try to give you a ticket.

Obviously they can't tell you "hey you need front plate" when there is no way you could ever get a matching front plate when your province doesn't use/provide them.

It's not like you live in a country where murder is legal and you're going over to someone else's soverign jurisdiction murdering people, LOL. It's just license plates, tint, etc. on a car...

[Samir]

Coming from a one-plate region, I support you in your endeavour.

The front plate ruins the clean look of many a hot hatch and sports car.

[Shaner]

If only this petition would actually accomplish something.

I'm all for removing the front plate. It ruins the look of nice cars and sometimes damages the front bumper. Sadly, the government isn't concerned with the wants of us lowly citizens.

[gman]

I have no problem with the front plate. I like it because I can see who is driving toward me or who is following me or whoevers' car is already in the parking lot. With everyone driving similar car, it is easy to id others' cars that way.

I personally do not see any benefit getting rid of it.

[Emancipated]

I dont' see the point of this petition. You can legally drive a car without the front license plate anyways.

Do you do any fact checking before you type out a response? It's a shame that people actually take to heart what you have to say. Real damn shame.

[ShadowVlican]

signed

[Jon Lai]

Do you do any fact checking before you type out a response? It's a shame that people actually take to heart what you have to say. Real damn shame.

Sorry, but that was honestly what I thought, as Quebecors are allowed in Ontario without getting a ticket.

My impression was always that the front license plate is optional, although it is a practise to have one when you purchase your car.

[rchong]

Front plates are required here too but I've never seen it inforced. Do the OPP really give out tickets for not having front license plates?

[weedb0y]

If only this petition would actually accomplish something.

I'm all for removing the front plate. It ruins the look of nice cars and sometimes damages the front bumper. Sadly, the government isn't concerned with the wants of us lowly citizens.

Plus its nice viral marketing for Autoconsultant.ca ;)

[michelb]

Good thread! Sign the petition !!!

I do believe front plates should be abolished. In my opinion they serve no purpose and I believe they hinder the car's aesthetics and functioning (most car front bumpers are not designed to have a license plate and the plate hinders proper cooling and affects aerodynamics (even if it's only 0.1L/100km, that is still significant when you consider all the cars in Ontario)). Also, front plates cause more damage which ends up costing drivers and insurance companies; they defeat the purpose of 8km/h bumpers since the bolts from the plate will often damage other cars and prevent the bumper from absorbing the impact.

[ES_Revenge]

Front plates are required here too but I've never seen it inforced. Do the OPP really give out tickets for not having front license plates?

Yes they do. And not just OPP, city police too. In fact if you are from a different province where front plates aren't required you will get pulled over here a lot more frequently as well. They can't ticket you for not having a front plate (if your car is registered in another province) but they can harass you, LOL.

I've known a couple people, from out-of-province that used to get pulled over quite a lot just because they were seen with no front plate. By the time the cop turned around and realised they were out of province it was more of a "might as well pull them over to check them out anyway" type deal.

One of the guys he lived in Ontario for like 2-3 years, and he never changed his license or his registration (left that with his parent's address, out of province). Police pulled him over at least once a month if not more, telling him that he should change his registration and get an Ontario license since he was living here so long. He never did, lol, and he got pulled over quite a lot.

Never really got any tickets that I can remember (he might have gotten a few), but he did get pulled over a lot. Had something actually been wrong (anything from insurance to vehicle equipment) the cops would have nailed him for it.

Ontario police don't fool around. The government sets the mandate "go out there and make money and disguise it as 'road safety'" and that's exactly what they do, LOL.

Other guy I didn't know that long but he also got pulled over for nothing other than the cop coming one way and seeing no plate and then pulling him over checking all his papers...

[Atomic Chip]

I personally do not see any benefit getting rid of it.

Perhaps you would be interested in reading the petition, which lists several benefits.

That was honestly what I thought ... my impression was always that the front license plate is optional.

Well, that's fine as far as it goes; but if you are going to post emphatic statements like "You can legally do X", it would be prudent to do a bit of checking, rather than relying upon your untutored gut sense.

But what do I know, I'm only a lawyer. :cheesygri

[cyder]

Good thread! Sign the petition !!!

I do believe front plates should be abolished. In my opinion they serve no purpose and I believe they hinder the car's aesthetics and functioning (most car front bumpers are not designed to have a license plate and the plate hinders proper cooling and affects aerodynamics (even if it's only 0.1L/100km, that is still significant when you consider all the cars in Ontario)). Also, front plates cause more damage which ends up costing drivers and insurance companies; they defeat the purpose of 8km/h bumpers since the bolts from the plate will often damage other cars and prevent the bumper from absorbing the impact.
It is a way to identify a car from the front. As for the negatives they are just drops in a bucket. The cost associated with having two plates is nothing compared to the overall budget and as for mileage if people really cared about that they'd drive or coast just a little bit more. Depending on the car though it may provide no hinderance to aerodynamics, fuel-efficiency, or engine cooling. Overall I'd prefer to keep them but I could really care less, just thought i'd pipe in.

[nx6288]

this petition wont make a difference if you think any different. Especially if you just don't want front plates to make your car look cooler.

[ES_Revenge]

Yeah I also think the petition is sort of pointless. Do you think the Ontario government (under the consultation of the OPP on this matter as well, no doubt) is going to notice the "petition" of a small group that thinks there should be no front plates because they think front plates look bad??? :rolleyes:

LMAO. There are far more serious things to be petitioning our ******** government for, and I'm sure they won't listen there either even with good reason behind it.

What's funny is even if outside this petition if there were real public response to change the front plates and the front plates were dropped that would just be another thing for the government to laugh at us with.... "Look they are all happy we got rid of front plates, while in the meantime we're screwing them over everywhere else!"

IMO you should sign petitions worth signing, not just any ol' petition for anything. Citing that other provinces have done this or that isn't going to make a huge effect on Ontario either. It doesn't in the US either. Look at how many states don't have front plates, but does that change NY's law requiring front plates? Not a chance.

[SoNgMaN]

I want no front plate.

:banghead:

my car looks 1000 times better without it

[gman]

Perhaps you would be interested in reading the petition, which lists several benefits.

I said "personally" I see no benefit. The listed benefits are not benefit at all in my opinion. That cannot remotely cover my lose of 50% of the ability to id a car in a parking lot or anywhere.

[stanchua]

do we save 50% when getting a new plate? count me in if the answer is yes

[cwb27]

Sorry, but that was honestly what I thought, as Quebecors are allowed in Ontario without getting a ticket.

My impression was always that the front license plate is optional, although it is a practise to have one when you purchase your car.

Quebecors are allowed because their vehicles are REGISTERED in Quebec. How would it make any sense at all for an out of province registered vehicle to be ticketed based on another province's highway laws governing displaying of plates in the front when in the province of registration it's legit? It doesn't.

In Ontario a front plate is MANDATORY, though the Highway Traffic Act doesn't actually say that it has to be attached to the bumper, so that's a 'loop hole' and I use the term loosely, as it can be displayed in the windshield but a police officer can still ticket you.

[mdc]

In Ontario a front plate is MANDATORY, though the Highway Traffic Act doesn't actually say that it has to be attached to the bumper, so that's a 'loop hole' and I use the term loosely, as it can be displayed in the windshield but a police officer can still ticket you.

while it is not specifically listed that it has to be on the bumper, police still tend to give you the ticket if it is anywhere but the bumper .. you can fight it in court (and maybe win), but is it worth the loss of a day?

[sledbc]

are u sure?

In BC you need a front plate. I bought my GTP from alberta and it never came with the front plate mounting brackets. My wife has gotten pulled over 3 times for having no plate, its an $80 fine here but she just gets warnings.....She ALWAYS gets warnings its not fair :(

[bionicbadger]

There is talk once or twice a year about bringing front plates back to alberta. Usually law enforcement wanting them....

[bensa138]

I agree that front plates are not nice looking ... however I think it's good to have them in cases of having to detect stolen cars or speeders or whatever the infraction will be .... it will allow police to easily determine which car is a suspect

There are reasons why we need two plates. As much as I don't think they are asthetically pleasing they shouldn't be abolished.

[gq_fuzion]

There are reasons why we need two plates. As much as I don't think they are asthetically pleasing they shouldn't be abolished.

so the government can make more money?
so cops can meet their quota?

other than reasons involving money, i see no reason why 2 plates are required

as long as the vehicle can be identified in some way, i think its fine...
i have no problem with rear plates. they actually have a place on the car
front plates just look plain ugly and are used as a money grab by the pigs

[actng]

LOL @ the n00b who says front plates aren't required in ontario.

LOL @ the n00b who says EURO plates are RICE.

LOL @ the timing of the petition - smack in the middle of adjournment. no one can make any change even if all of canada signs the petition when the government is not working.

LOL

[grant]

One of the guys he lived in Ontario for like 2-3 years, and he never changed his license or his registration (left that with his parent's address, out of province). Police pulled him over at least once a month if not more, telling him that he should change his registration and get an Ontario license since he was living here so long. He never did, lol, and he got pulled over quite a lot.
What a clever guy! he really stuck it to the man! (i sure wish i had that much spare time :( )

In BC you need a front plate. I bought my GTP from alberta and it never came with the front plate mounting brackets. My wife has gotten pulled over 3 times for having no plate, its an $80 fine here but she just gets warnings.....She ALWAYS gets warnings its not fair :(
why not just get a new bracket, or screw the plate right into the bumper?

I don't understand this fascination some people have with getting pulled over...

[Jon Lai]

so the government can make more money?
so cops can meet their quota?

other than reasons involving money, i see no reason why 2 plates are required

as long as the vehicle can be identified in some way, i think its fine...
i have no problem with rear plates. they actually have a place on the car
front plates just look plain ugly and are used as a money grab by the pigs

What money? In Ontario AFAIK it costs $20 to get a set of plates. So you want to save $10? Is that really worth it?

[bobbings]

so the government can make more money?
so cops can meet their quota?

other than reasons involving money, i see no reason why 2 plates are required

as long as the vehicle can be identified in some way, i think its fine...
i have no problem with rear plates. they actually have a place on the car
front plates just look plain ugly and are used as a money grab by the pigs

i got used to having 2 plates, when i'm in quebec, it's weird to see nothing in the front. i know it's weird for the quebeckers to see us with 2 plates but we just grow into it.

[gman]

do we save 50% when getting a new plate? count me in if the answer is yes

Even if it saves 50%, how often do you get a new plate? Once for 10 years? My plate has been with me for more than 10 years and was used in 2 cars.

[JAC]

The front plate is a useful tool for law enforcement. I'd hardly consider it worthwhile to eliminate it for the sake of aesthetics.

[billdozer]

so the government can make more money?
so cops can meet their quota?

other than reasons involving money, i see no reason why 2 plates are required

as long as the vehicle can be identified in some way, i think its fine...
i have no problem with rear plates. they actually have a place on the car
front plates just look plain ugly and are used as a money grab by the pigs

gg_idi0t, the government hardly makes money making license plates. so you're saying cops would hand out less tickets if there was only 1 plate required? That doesn't even make sense. If they catch you speeding, they'll catch you regardless if you have a front license plate or not.

I'm more concerned about a cop being able to identify a stolen car. for example, if they're in front of a stolen car and no front license plate is apparent.

Think before you post next time, junior.

[twotterdhc6]

It might actually save some money for the province, though likely insignificant, but honestly, how much of a gain in aerodynamic efficiency can one expect? lol!

[quikkid]

Won't somebody please think of the environment. (and the children)
http://bp0.blogger.com/_RDrZ56dZjbc/RmGYo4juXHI/AAAAAAAAAAc/ypQGDgavuwE/s400/image_helen.gif

[PCDawg]

For aesthetics reason, i would like the front plate gone as it makes the front of the car alot cleaner.

But i think its a good idea to keep it there.

It helps in the police looking into their rearview mirrors and pucnhing people's plate #s at random and it can potentially catch car-theives, wanted suspects etc.

As well i find it does protect the front of the car a bit esp when parking since if you have barrier between your car and whatever is in front of you. but its not like I had hit MANY thing before...:lol:

[veryhuman]

How much is the fine without the front plate?

[monkeyball]

I have no problem with the front plate. I like it because I can see who is driving toward me or who is following me or whoevers' car is already in the parking lot. With everyone driving similar car, it is easy to id others' cars that way.

I personally do not see any benefit getting rid of it.

i agree, like if someone is following you for some reason ..plus i guess ive grown to having front plates as the norm

[Evgeny]

While I support the cause, I can't help but laugh at the aerodynamics arguement a little bit! (this):

Secondly, the front license plate negatively affects the efficiency of the vehicle by interrupting the aerodynamics with the plate at the vehicle's primary point of attack. Further, many vehicles suffer further losses in efficiency with the front plate's blockage of large portions of the front air-intake of the vehicle, resulting in increased fuel consumption, and increased greenhouse emissions.

Should just say it like it is: it makes for a better looking car!

[phomp]

I didnt sign this the first 2 times I saw it on tcc so I wont be now.

Lets not lie.. you only want the front licence plate gone because it looks better without it... no other reason.

Plus, licence plates are not a big cash grab for the government.. so it is not to get extra money from you.

Some of the arguements on that page are ridiculous. I know other provinces do not have it which makes for a good arguement but I doubt Ontario will be changing it anyway...

[monkeyball]

im pretty sure its not too high on their priority list either.. lol.. there are more important matters to deal with

[TurboRegal]

I think the front plate is useless to tell you the truth. There is no time that a police officer has no option of looking at the back plate I can think of.

For example:
A police officer was driving in front of me. I have a car licensed in SK, but driving in ON, so no front plate. He pulled to the left land and slowed down, and looked at my rear plate... Simple

It would save ON millions per year I would assume, for very little in return. (There is very few instances I can think of where anyone would be able to see the front plate and not the rear plate)

[monkeyball]

I think the front plate is useless to tell you the truth. There is no time that a police officer has no option of looking at the back plate I can think of.

For example:
A police officer was driving in front of me. I have a car licensed in SK, but driving in ON, so no front plate. He pulled to the left land and slowed down, and looked at my rear plate... Simple

It would save ON millions per year I would assume, for very little in return. (There is very few instances I can think of where anyone would be able to see the front plate and not the rear plate)

we'll in any case.. having front plates can only make it easier/quicker to identify than not having them

[TurboRegal]

we'll in any case.. having front plates can only make it easier/quicker to identify than not having them

But not having front plates saves Saskatchewan $350,000 per year, so multiply that by 13, 4.5 million dollars.

That may be next to nothing vs the big picture, but that is a good chunk of cash saved for it being "harder" to identify plate numbers, and maybe making it unidentifiable in 0.1% of cases.

[bembol]

I have Personalized Plates so I don't really care.

I did sign it.

[monkeyball]

in any case it doesnt really affect me at all, i dont plan to own a car for at least a few more years.

[dre145]

i dont have the front plates on my bumper, i do have it in my windshield tho, the cop still gave me a ticket (****er) gonna fight it in court

[veryhuman]

i dont have the front plates on my bumper, i do have it in my windshield tho, the cop still gave me a ticket (****er) gonna fight it in court

If you go to court and tell them its 'legally' placed inside your car. Better bring your wallet.

HTA 7(1)(b) – Drive motor vehicle fail to display two plates - $85.00/$110.00

Has to be on the vehicle, not in it.

http://forums.vitalmotion.net/police-stories-tickets-insurance-modifications-blitz-q/17747-printable-version-erase-your-cars.html

[Engi-Nir]

Ontario residents have started a petition addressed to the Honourable Jim Bradley the Minister of Transportation to revoke the current law requiring the display of a front license plate on passenger vehicles.

Ontario is behind the pack of Canadian provinces as Alberta, Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, Saskatchewan and the three territories use single license plates.

Here are some of the arguments presented:

1. A single plate would significantly reduce the Province's costs associated with production, storage and accounting for the additional plate.
2. A front license plate negatively affects the efficiency of the vehicle by interrupting the aerodynamics, which subsequently affects fuel consumption.
3. Lastly, unnecessary damage is sustained from minor bumper-to-bumper collisions.

In my opinion, get rid of the front license plate. I mean what purpose does it really serve! But that’s just me - what do you think? If you’d like to sign the petition click here:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Ont_Front_Plate/

[Engi-Nir]

I think #4 should be, takes away the attractiveness of the car, after all I don't think any of the car manufacturers design front bumper to mount the license, only the rear is designed for plates.

And I totally agree with #3.

[Mattones]

My dad doesnt use one on his sports car. he just puts it in the window.

[Fort McMurray]

My dad doesnt use one on his sports car. he just puts it in the window.


Which is against the law. I got a ticket (in BC) the day after I bought a truck because I had the plate in the window. The front bracket had fallen off on the previous owner and I didn't get around to buying bolts for it in that one day.

[molala]

doesn't bother me....i can't see it when i'm driving anywayz..

[skidz88]

I think #4 should be, takes away the attractiveness of the car, after all I don't think any of the car manufacturers design front bumper to mount the license, only the rear is designed for plates.

And I totally agree with #3.

The Subaru Impreza has a front bumper that is designed to hold a front plate. There must be others as well.

I agree that it shouldn't be mandatory to display one in the front though.

[gman]

Yes, I do like it so that I can easily spot my friend's parked car. I don't have to go to the back to figure out the licence plate. I can also spot the incoming car is my friend's that way too.

[ryyeung]

Front license plate are also needed in BC. I think it's for safety purposes, especially in a hit and run situation, where the witnesses can spot the plate from both front and back. Personally, I'm in BC and my plate is an annoyance. I'll think about it once in a while, but taking it off and risking a ticket is just not worth it IMO.

However, I do need people's opinion of where to put it. Is it illegal if it's still on the front of car, but not on the original OEM bracket?

My choices (07 Civic Coupe):
- OEM: middle center height (where it is now)
- JDM: left of right center height
- Lower on grill
- Even lower when my front skirt is (almost under the front skirt)

I've seen on cars cut the license plate so only the numbers are left and some other cars have it soooo low you can only see it from ground level. Are those legal?

And finally, I've seen people with those special reflective plate covers to prevent a camera from catching you speeding or something. Are those legal?

[Baseball_Boy]

I say get rid of them.

[mic2074]

I agree with getting rid of it, and points 1 and 3... but pt #2... come on !

[Baseball_Boy]

I agree with getting rid of it, and points 1 and 3... but pt #2... come on !

lol yeah, I was hoping someone would catch number 2 :confused:

[uvadtmfub]

I agree with getting rid of it, and points 1 and 3... but pt #2... come on !

I don't mind it affecting the aerodynamics, since I have a stubby antenna and tinted windows, which effectively adds 5 HP. :cheesygri

[leon200608]

It does help a lot for the witness to spot it in a hit and run situation, I can't think about anything else other than that. I moved from Ontario to Quebec, which doesn't require front license plate. But my car has a holder in the front. it has nothing in it now, just a black license plate holder, really ugly...

[Jeff-TheBiz]

Repost...

But that is okay..

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=459886

[ShadowVlican]

yea i remembered i signed this before :cheesygri

[hi-tech]

My RSX looks like garbage with its front plate, so I moved it to the bottom left right above the front lip in front of the fog light template. Makes it look MUCH better, and I haven't been ticketed at all.

[mic2074]

It does help a lot for the witness to spot it in a hit and run situation, I can't think about anything else other than that. I moved from Ontario to Quebec, which doesn't require front license plate. But my car has a holder in the front. it has nothing in it now, just a black license plate holder, really ugly...

can't think of any scenerio where a witness would only be able to see the front plates and not the back as they drive away.

[arm2000]

I couldn't care less about my front plate. U guys have too much time in your hands. There are a lot of other things to complain.

[Anonymouse]

I think one of the reasons the police love front plates is that they are excellent radar/laser reflectors.

[gman]

can't think of any scenerio where a witness would only be able to see the front plates and not the back as they drive away.

You are driving north bound and the bad guy is driving south bound. It is hard to pick up a back plate through the side mirror while you are driving.

Also, a bad guy can back up from the scene in an alley.

[Ten Count]

I think Greame Fletcher was closer to the truth inhis speculation of the real reason for the front license plate law: a flat, uppright surface off which to bounce a radar beam...

[bmaz]

Ontario residents have started a petition addressed to the Honourable Jim Bradley the Minister of Transportation to revoke the current law requiring the display of a front license plate on passenger vehicles.

Ontario is behind the pack of Canadian provinces as Alberta, Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, Saskatchewan and the three territories use single license plates.

Here are some of the arguments presented:

1. A single plate would significantly reduce the Province's costs associated with production, storage and accounting for the additional plate.
2. A front license plate negatively affects the efficiency of the vehicle by interrupting the aerodynamics, which subsequently affects fuel consumption.
3. Lastly, unnecessary damage is sustained from minor bumper-to-bumper collisions.

Sign the petition here -> http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Ont_Front_Plate/index.html

[dealmeone]

And the real reason that concerns most people wishing to do away with front license plates: Appearance.

[Squiggles]

The best part is that I would be able to get on to the 407 for free simply by driving in reverse!!!!

[stealth]

And the real reason that concerns most people wishing to do away with front license plates: Appearance.

+1 What a silly non-issue.

[angel_wing0]

Ontario residents have started a petition addressed to the Honourable Jim Bradley the Minister of Transportation to revoke the current law requiring the display of a front license plate on passenger vehicles.

Ontario is behind the pack of Canadian provinces as Alberta, Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, Saskatchewan and the three territories use single license plates.

Here are some of the arguments presented:

1. A single plate would significantly reduce the Province's costs associated with production, storage and accounting for the additional plate.
2. A front license plate negatively affects the efficiency of the vehicle by interrupting the aerodynamics, which subsequently affects fuel consumption.
3. Lastly, unnecessary damage is sustained from minor bumper-to-bumper collisions.

Sign the petition here -> http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Ont_Front_Plate/index.html

i like the idea. Actually I LOVE it.

But to be honest argument #1 and 3 are pretty weak. I doubt getting rid of the front plate would really signifcantly reduce costs. Even without the front plate, there will still be minor bumper to bumper damages.

[Spray]

My last one was actually blocking 30% of my front mounted intercooler. While that may not mean much to you, we actually took it off between dyno pulls and it added a bit more power with it off. Much less heatsoak = greater fuel mileage = better for the enviro :P

As for my current car, I actually prefer to have it on. I mounted it with bolts with giant heads on them. It's satisfying to come out and see them covered with paint from those who cant park. Saves my car a lot of nicks.

+1 What a silly non-issue.

[ES_Revenge]

What is this like the 6th thread about this now? :confused:

Here's a news bulletin:

Not

Going

to

Happen.

[Anonymouse]

Like I said in another thread, the police will oppose this because the front license plate is an excellent radar/laser target. It's not going to happen.

[M-e-X-x]

i like the idea. Actually I LOVE it.

But to be honest argument #1 and 3 are pretty weak. I doubt getting rid of the front plate would really signifcantly reduce costs. Even without the front plate, there will still be minor bumper to bumper damages.

#1, in alberta they got rid of the front plate in the early 90's JUST to save cost... apparently it costs quite a bit to run 2 plates...

#3, i agree with u

[bmaz]

What is this like the 6th thread about this now? :confused:

Here's a news bulletin:

Not

Going

to

Happen.
This isn't a thread about the Abolition of Ontario's Front License Plate, it's a thread about the 'Petition for the Abolition of Ontario's Front License Plate'.
If there is another thread about the Petition let me know.

[DaVibe]

Caribana weekend, you can always tell an American car from an Ontario Car ... HOW?

Front License Plates.

I think it's going to be hard to implement this ... once we've had something for so long, its hard to take away from that standard ... in Ontario, we usually add to it ...

Parking enforcement would complain ... now they have to walk to the BACK of the car ...
Police would complain from a safety / security stand point, claiming front license plates are easier to identify vehicles and make their job easier ...

I personally like the idea though.

[malecoke]

i absolutely love my front plate..

Last winter i skidded into another car into the parkin lot cux of my own stupidity. I had to pay the other car to repiar his bumper, but i only suffered a broke plate cover and a bent plate (which was straightened in 10mins). If it wasnt for the front plate i'd have to repair my own bumper too.

it serves as a minor bumper guard for low speed hits for sure.

[Justin]

Saskatchewan stopped having 2 plates a couple years ago and it didn't cause any problems. Don't see why Ontario could not get used to having only 1 plate.

[vek]

When someone tagged my parked car and took off, the only view of the offender's from the angle I was at (not in the car) was the front plate.

So count me out of this one. Actually, of all internet petitions.