Job Scam? have you seen this one before?

[Wilmega]

Hey i got this recent email from workopolis. I recieve it once every 2 weeks or so. i checked online to see if their was any information on this company, or scam. Here is the first email:

Sent from Workopolis.ca

Here are the jobs we found for you based on your search criteria:

Manage Agents

We Have A Part Time Job For You!

PHARMAMED LIMITED - "Don’t leave your career or selection of candidates to fate."

Established in 1985, PHARMAMED Limited is the UK’s leading pharmaceutical sales recruitment company. Specialising in pharmaceutical recruitment since 1985, we pride ourselves in our proven ability to recruit the best candidates for the UK’s leading pharmaceutical companies time after time.

Individuality is the key to our success. We treat each client, candidate and employee as an individual with their own individual needs and tailor our service offerings to best fit these needs.

PHARMAMED Limited is unique in that we are a Consultancy in the true sense. We can advise our candidates and clients through the maze of recruitment issues that they face daily because we have the experience, knowledge and resources to do so.

Our company has reached enormous sales volumes in major European countries. We are currently trying to expand our services over in the USA and Canada. The IRS directly supports the market testing efforts of agencies by providing general guidelines, through the development of Market Testing Toolkits and providing guidance regarding the related agency banking framework. Therefore, PHARMAMED Limited has been granted a Market Test Authorization from the IRS in January 1st, 2007 and is valid thru January 20th, 2008. This Market Test Authorization allows great flexibility regarding taxes.

PHARMAMED Limited is currently recruiting Regional Financial Managers in Canada who will receive payments from our customers in Canada and redistribute the funds as needed.

-Why do we prefer hiring people instead of opening an office over in Canada?
-Because it is far cheaper paying a comission of 12% rather than going through all the paper hassle of registering a business in Canada and opening offices all over the country. Besides, there is no certainty that our company will succeed selling the products in Canada, that's why it is called a Market Test. Upon, a successful result, we will being opening offices in the United States.

JOB DESCRIPTION
Agent's work consists in receiving payments from our customers in Canada and making
further payments as instructed to a regional affiliate department, depending on
the customer's location. Being a part-time job, it should not take more than 2 hours per day.
Agent's commission is 12% from each transaction (for instance: you receive $1000.00, you will
keep $120.00 as payment for your service). All further money transfer charges and fees are covered
by our company. So you will be responsible just for making proper payments in time.
Each transaction will be made only after prior notification by phone call or e-mail.

You are not required to:
have any extra knowledge or to be experienced in this business and
this occupation can endow additional income to you and your family as it
will not require more than few hours per week.
If you are interested in our offer, please feel free to ask for the general provisions
of the contract.

Requirements:
Adults only
Residents of Canada
Owner of checking account with online access at DESJARDINS or ROYAL BANK OF CANADA
Owners of a computer with e-mail access
2-3 hours free time within the work day



For further informations and inquiries about the job offering, please feel free to
contact us by e-mail at any time at pharmameduk@cs.com.


PHARMAMED Limited - An UK Company


I have not heard of this type of employment before, so im just want to know what you all have to say about this possible job/scam?

[Wilmega]

here is a email reply from them after i emailed them back:

Dear prospective employee,

In order to start working with us, you need to meet one of the following requirements :

* Have a chequing account at Desjardins Bank
* Have a chequing account at Royal Bank of Canada

Your commission is 12% from each transaction.

If you dont have a chequing account at the banks above , you can still work for us if you are willing to open
a new bank account.

You will use this account to receive payments from our clients.


Your work with our company consists in receiving payments from our clients to your bank account and making
further payments to our main office or to one of our regional affiliate departments, depending on the customer's location.
It should not take more than 2 hours per day.
You will be responsible for making proper payments in time (since the successful receipt of the funds).
Each transaction will be made only after prior notification via email or phone call.

If you agree to work with us please e-mail me your name and home address ( no PO BOX ) , for the employment agreement

The next step will be for us to send you the agreement which you are required to sign and e-mail back to us if you agree to the employment terms. Once we get over these steps we will have the transfers sent to your account on a daily basis.

Our company is government insured and our business is in full concordance with Canadian criminal laws and legal tax liabilities (Income Taxes etc.).

Please email us back and let us know if you have any other questions.
Thank you anticipated and we are looking forward to working with you,

Sincerely,

"his name"

[dazz]

It doesn't make much sense. I don't know if it's a scam,but it's not making any sense.

[legendofxix]

Sounds too good to be true.
Unless they start asking for your banking information, this has to be highly illegal.
Your taking money from wherever, waiting for it to clear, then keeping 12% of it yourself and transfering it to someone else.
Seems like an attempt at getting around corporate taxes.

[red120]

Yes, I received this as well a while ago, and also got attracted by it.

But it's too good to be true. If they had that kind of operation, wouldn't they just set up the small cost to have a regional office here?

Either a scam or illegal - money laundering.

But if you like, you could read their contract. Nothing to lose, right :P

[YnD]

This is why I stopped making my resume "Searchable" because more often than not, you make yourself available to these scammers who sign up for an employer account at Workopolis.

:|

True. But you can always ignore junk mails like these.

However, making your resume not searchable allows NO recruiters...even legit ones... to find your resume... can prevent you opportunities....

[gnunn]

Sounds like a scam, I suspect the way it works is that you will get a certified cheque or money order, deposit it and forward everything except your 12% commission only to find out the cheque or money order was fraudulent putting you on the hook for the dough.

[gnunn]

BTW, another question to ask yourself is why a real company would be using a compuserve account and doesn't have it's own domain name. heck my even my one person hobby company as it's own domain name with e-mail against that domain name.

[Mulder and Scully]

Lol. No wonder all those scams make the fraud artists so much money.

If you look at the source or even just mouseover the email address, you'll see that it's not even from Workopolis. The scam just uses their name in an attempt to bypass spam filters. Gmail and Hotmail on the other hand sent this stuff right to my spam box.

[matkun]

Sounds like a scam, I suspect the way it works is that you will get a certified cheque or money order, deposit it and forward everything except your 12% commission only to find out the cheque or money order was fraudulent putting you on the hook for the dough.

That actually is a quite common spam offer. And yes, exactly as that. You receive cheque, deposit it, send money on to someone else. Bank turns around and tells you cheque bounced. Your out whatever money you sent. Cogratulations, you just got scammed!

Great job eh?

See here: http://www.ic3.gov/crimeschemes.aspx#item-3

For that specific scam.

This: http://www.ic3.gov/crimeschemes.aspx

Is actually a great read to be aware of the common scams out there.

Also, tips on how to not get scammed: http://www.ic3.gov/preventiontips.aspx

[Wilmega]

That actually is a quite common spam offer. And yes, exactly as that. You receive cheque, deposit it, send money on to someone else. Bank turns around and tells you cheque bounced. Your out whatever money you sent. Cogratulations, you just got scammed!

Great job eh?

See here: http://www.ic3.gov/crimeschemes.aspx#item-3

For that specific scam.

This: http://www.ic3.gov/crimeschemes.aspx

Is actually a great read to be aware of the common scams out there.

Also, tips on how to not get scammed: http://www.ic3.gov/preventiontips.aspx


thanks for the tips.

[Simmer]

As a rule of thumb, if their job sounds THIS good, they probably wouldn't need a tool like Workopolis.com to fill positions.

[dazz]

it costs 700 bux to put an ad in Workopolis. That's messed up!

[mself084]

I open this thread and 10 minutes later I get this in my hotmail inbox:

Hello Mr ****,

I'm Olivia Myers, Manager of Royal Finance company. On site Monster.com I have found your resume and want to offer you the vacancy of "ePayment Manager".

Job description:
The major duty of the ePayment Manager is to process payments between our clients and our company via PayPal system. You will get 15 percent per transfer.

Salary: 500$-3500$ per month.

Benefits of this vacancy:
1. Flexible work schedule, work 3-5 hours per week.
2. Possibility of your career rising.
3. Home-based.
4. Ability to take unlimited vacation (without guaranteed salary).

Minimal requirements:
1. You must have the PayPal account.
2. At least 18 years old.
3. Internet and e-mail skills.

More information you can find on our site www.royal-finance.net. If you want to get this job please fill the form If you’ve got some questions about this vacancy please read F.A.Q. and if can’t find the answer to your question, address to our support.

Best regards
---
Olivia Myers manager@royal-finance.net





TOO FUNNY! Irony yes?

[sunnybono]

here is a email reply from them after i emailed them back:

Dear prospective employee,

In order to start working with us, you need to meet one of the following requirements :

* Have a chequing account at Desjardins Bank
* Have a chequing account at Royal Bank of Canada

Your commission is 12% from each transaction.

If you dont have a chequing account at the banks above , you can still work for us if you are willing to open
a new bank account.

You will use this account to receive payments from our clients.


Your work with our company consists in receiving payments from our clients to your bank account and making
further payments to our main office or to one of our regional affiliate departments, depending on the customer's location.
It should not take more than 2 hours per day.
You will be responsible for making proper payments in time (since the successful receipt of the funds).
Each transaction will be made only after prior notification via email or phone call.

If you agree to work with us please e-mail me your name and home address ( no PO BOX ) , for the employment agreement

The next step will be for us to send you the agreement which you are required to sign and e-mail back to us if you agree to the employment terms. Once we get over these steps we will have the transfers sent to your account on a daily basis.

Our company is government insured and our business is in full concordance with Canadian criminal laws and legal tax liabilities (Income Taxes etc.).

Please email us back and let us know if you have any other questions.
Thank you anticipated and we are looking forward to working with you,

Sincerely,

"his name"

Most likely counterfeit payments will be deposited into your account. You then foward the funds less 12% to the fraudsters. Once the bank gets hit, guess who is on the hook for the funds!!!!!!

sk

[nwwong]

It's a money laundering scam. Don't fall for it.

[AmethystAngel]

OH MY GOD!!! I think I have just fallen prey to this.

A deposit has been made into my account but I have not yet done anything. I'm going to go to my bank & talk to them - then I'm going to report this to the police.......WHEW!! I think I may have just dodge the bullet on this one.

[coolspot]

OH MY GOD!!! I think I have just fallen prey to this.

A deposit has been made into my account but I have not yet done anything. I'm going to go to my bank & talk to them - then I'm going to report this to the police.......WHEW!! I think I may have just dodge the bullet on this one.

haha... or just keep the money and pretend you dont' know anything about it :D hahaha

[dazz]

OH MY GOD!!! I think I have just fallen prey to this.

A deposit has been made into my account but I have not yet done anything. I'm going to go to my bank & talk to them - then I'm going to report this to the police.......WHEW!! I think I may have just dodge the bullet on this one.

Do it NOW. If their check bounces,your bank will freeze your account as it's a considered a major fraud (NSF,fraud over$1K or so)

[matkun]

Yeah but given my lack of workplace experience (i.e. being a relatively new grad), I'm getting ONLY solicitation from questionable sources because they target new grads and students. If you have some decent experience, you'll probably end up getting a lot more legit headhunters and offers than those of us who are trying to get a foot into the industry.

I would say it's better to leave it searchable. I was amazed when a few weeks ago I got a call from a recruiter. They wanted to offer me a one year long contract effective immediately to replace an IT admin who had gone on maternity leave (of course there would have been an interview, but they seemed desperate to find someone ASAP). I had to decline because I already had a job until the end of the summer and then would be busy with finish Uni, but it's another networking contact for when I look for a job next time.

[boyoflondon]

I just dont understand how some people can actually fall for this ... :confused:

This has red flags all over it ...

[red120]

haha... or just keep the money and pretend you dont' know anything about it :D hahaha

Hahaha.. I considered that too :P

[mself084]

OH MY GOD!!! I think I have just fallen prey to this.

A deposit has been made into my account but I have not yet done anything. I'm going to go to my bank & talk to them - then I'm going to report this to the police.......WHEW!! I think I may have just dodge the bullet on this one.

I always wonder who actually signs up for stuff like this... what was your reasoning?

Let us know how it goes at the bank too!

[Wilmega]

yea im always warying bout things like these. googled their company name and nothing shows up. nothing on workopolis either. But i asked on yahoo and they said that their website was www.intouchpharmamed.com or somthing.

[AmethystAngel]

I always wonder who actually signs up for stuff like this... what was your reasoning?

Let us know how it goes at the bank too!

I did go to my bank - they froze my account - thank goodness none of my own money was in it.....the fraud squad got right on it. I have not heard back from that company as I'm sure they realize the gig is up.....

Someone asks how people can fall for it....well it's easy if you really need the money....I am a well educated, intelligent single woman - I researched "Pharmamed" & found the company on the internet & thought they were legitimate....I should have typed in "PharmamedUK" first.....

All is back to normal now & I will NEVER get in a jam like that again.

[elty]

I got this email. Looks like Royal Finance is folded and now they call themselves national Finance ;)

Dear XXX!

My name is David Bell, I'm Manager of National Finance company. I found
your resume on www.monster.com and decided to offer you a position with our
company.

Job description:

ePayment Manager duties:
To receive payments from our customers via PayPal payment system,
and to send the payments via Western Union and Money Gram payment
systems.

Compensation:
15% of every transaction amount. All expenses (WesternUnion fee, MoneyGram
fee, bank fee, PayPal fee) are on us. Your compensation is included in the
amount of every transaction.

Job schedule:
Job schedule is flexible. You yourself choose most suitable time
for you. You can work at nights or on weekends if you wish.

The advantages of the position:
1. Flexible shifts.
2. You can have this job in combination with other jobs.
3. Career development potential.
4. Home based employment.

Minimum requirements:
1. 18 years old.
2. Internet and email usage skills.
3. PayPal account.

How to apply to this vacancy:
Please fill this application censored


Best regards
---
David Bell [censored]