Dell Dimension C521 $399

[flaming homer]

At the bottom of the "days of deals" page

http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=CAqD7bLWUPI&offerid=116095.581550444&type=10&subid=

Dimension C521
AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual-Core 3600+
Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition
No Monitor
1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz- 2DIMMs
160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™
16x DVD+/-RW Drive
NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE Integrated Graphics
Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Integrated 10/100 Ethernet
Microsoft® Works 8. DOES NOT INCLUDE MS WORD
Dell USB Keyboard
Dell Optical USB Mouse
1 Year Next Business Day Onsite/In Home Service and Tech Support

Low-profile case

[chenj16]

good deal

[Derek]

Good deal!

[Spiderpal93]

anyone know if this has an open PCI-E slot?

How is this compared to the E521 deal last time?

I kind of like this one because it's small compared to E521..tempted!!!:cheesygri

[ikeandtike]

no option for vista

strange

[neo1973]

Good deal! Thanks OP!

[flaming homer]

anyone know if this has an open PCI-E slot?

How is this compared to the E521 deal last time?

I kind of like this one because it's small compared to E521..tempted!!!:cheesygri
Use this link and click on the "Tech Specs" tab

http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/dimen_c521?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1

[Spiderpal93]

Use this link and click on the "Tech Specs" tab

http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/dimen_c521?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1


thanks!

[willy]

It appears this C521 uses a propreitary powersupply ... Also, I suspect all expansion cards *might* have to be low-profile format ...

[flaming homer]

It appears this C521 uses a propreitary powersupply ....I believe all Dell uses propreitary power supply for desktops.

[Derek]

I believe the PCI-E slot will only accept half-height PCI-E cards... not enough space in the slim form factor for a full one.

[cloneman]

Basically the same as that other 389$ deal some time ago, except this one has 1GB ram and smaller size. Nice deal.

Make it 2GB with the cheap DDR2 ram available elsewhere!

[mrsundaynight]

Dumb question,

How does an AMD Athlon compare to, say, a P4? Is it like the old Celeron computers that were a little bit slow? Or is it fairly quick?

[BlueMax]

100% confirmed - ALL expansion cards must be HALF-HEIGHT (AKA. low-profile) cards.

Best half-height video card I've found is the X1650 Pro or 7600GS.

[philelmo]

thanks to everyone confirming it's a good deal.. makes the purchase much easier for others

[Taft]

Very HOT, frankly one of the hottest desktop deals I've ever seen for a non-refurb.

XP instead of Vista makes it that much hotter IMHO. I love the small form factor of the C521 even though it limits your video card choices.

Would be on this in a second if I was thinking about a new PC.

[philelmo]

Any recommended add-ons???????????

[madcow000]

seems like a great price , but does this case have any room for future upgrading ?

[tjuzer]

Basically the same as that other 389$ deal some time ago, except this one has 1GB ram and smaller size. Nice deal.

Make it 2GB with the cheap DDR2 ram available elsewhere!

So old deal better or this better? How long ago?

[BlueMax]

Very HOT, frankly one of the hottest desktop deals I've ever seen for a non-refurb.

XP instead of Vista makes it that much hotter IMHO. I love the small form factor of the C521 even though it limits your video card choices.

Would be on this in a second if I was thinking about a new PC.

I much prefer HP's 3020n micro-desktop unit. About half the size of the Dell C521 but still offers PCI & PCIe16 low profile slots. I'm watching for deals on that one... Staples has one where you get the package with printer & 22" LCD for $900 which is pretty good, but not awesome by any stretch. And it's a Vista machine. :(

You SHOULD be able to get the E521 for almost the same price as the C521. Then your expansion is standard cards.

[mahjongmaniac]

no option for vista

strange

that's alright... i'm sure some on here would prefer not to have Vista :P

[speedyturtle]

seems like a great price , but does this case have any room for future upgrading ?

second harddrive is possible but placing it in the 3.5 floppy disk drive mount, you may have to get a sata pci card for the 2nd drive depends if there is extra

[BlueMax]

Make it 2GB with the cheap DDR2 ram available elsewhere!

Add 2GB to the existing one. 3GB total, and none is wasted, like the ~700MB that's wasted when you have 4GB.

[ultracrt]

So old deal better or this better? How long ago?

The $389 old deal was 512MB ram and Vista Basic. I don't remember the CPU speed, maybe 4200+, 2 or 3 months ago.

[philelmo]

hmm.. which one to choose...

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=448728
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=450430
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=446378&highlight=2gb+ram

[itsyours]

Dumb question,

How does an AMD Athlon compare to, say, a P4? Is it like the old Celeron computers that were a little bit slow? Or is it fairly quick?

Not just fairly quick! This AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual-Core 3600+ is way faster (better) than the Pentium 4 and uses much less power.
But to buy this compact computer, you have to be sure you won't need an add-on card later likes a better sound card or graphic card since the normal cards won't fit and the low profile cards are rare, expensive and limited.

[CoffeeAddict]

Could you theorhetically move all the components into a standard ATX case or are the motherboard standoffs non-compliant with ATX or BTX?

[habfan]

100% confirmed - ALL expansion cards must be HALF-HEIGHT (AKA. low-profile) cards.

Best half-height video card I've found is the X1650 Pro or 7600GS.

Any links to half-height Dual-link PCI-E card?

I want this computer to run Dell 30" monitor....

thanks!

[martin_nv]

Use this link and click on the "Tech Specs" tab

http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/dimen_c521?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1

Does this computer come with a DVI connector or do you need to add a video card? This specs page appears to show the DVI port on an add-on video card.

[Kwirky]

Dumb question,

How does an AMD Athlon compare to, say, a P4? Is it like the old Celeron computers that were a little bit slow? Or is it fairly quick?

Devastates the Celeron, much faster than a comparably-priced P4, not as quick as a Core 2 Duo.

[mrsundaynight]

Devastates the Celeron, much faster than a comparably-priced P4, not as quick as a Core 2 Duo.

Damn, I had convinced myself not to buy it. Now I'm rethinking.

[dasiuyan]

Does this computer come with a DVI connector or do you need to add a video card? This specs page appears to show the DVI port on an add-on video card.

DVI available only with the add-on video card...

[sjweyman]

How does the 3600 compare with the 3800 or 4200?

[cptsquirt]

I'm interested in ordering this as a gift.. Anyone order yet and get and estimated shipping date???

[trader08]

Haven't followed the new dual cores, can anyone tell me if these are 65NM or 90NM? I'd have to imagine if they are the 65NM they'd be better suited for a little ramping up (OC'ing).

[Ducky]

how do i order this via the phone?

(i need to do it via phone cuz i get an extra 5% off)

i'm guessing i need the e-value code??

[shoppingx]

thanks, ordered one for a friend :lol:

[ecaps]

Does anyone know how many slot for memory in this machine? I wonder if there are 4 so the 2x512MB won't be wasted.

Nevermind, I found it has 4 slots.

[Watson]

Could you theorhetically move all the components into a standard ATX case or are the motherboard standoffs non-compliant with ATX or BTX?

According to this site (http://forums.techguy.org/hardware/575889-dell-c521-case-swap.html) the motherboard is a microBTX do would not work in an ATX case.

[chenj16]

I'm interested in ordering this as a gift.. Anyone order yet and get and estimated shipping date???

i think it is FREE shipping for all dimensions

[Riddick]

It shows $509 for me...?

[Kwirky]

How does the 3600 compare with the 3800 or 4200?

Same cache, just different clockspeeds; 3600 = 1.9GHz, 3800 = 2.0GHz, 4200 = 2.2GHz

Haven't followed the new dual cores, can anyone tell me if these are 65NM or 90NM? I'd have to imagine if they are the 65NM they'd be better suited for a little ramping up (OC'ing).

Could be either, but I think the Brisbane (65nm) 3600+ are more common. However, there's no way you'll be able to overclock this Dell system in the BIOS, but you might be able to do it using some software FSB speed modifier. If you're intrested in overclocking at all, I would not recommend this system.

Does anyone know how many slot for memory in this machine? I wonder if there are 4 so the 2x512MB won't be wasted.

Should take at least 4, as you can option it that way when you're buying it.

It shows $509 for me...?

Try again? It is $509 - $110 = $399 for me.

[sjweyman]

I know pretty much nothing about overclocking ... but why can't you overclock this Dell easily? What about HP system that have been on sale @ FS and BB recently ... would they be overclockable through the BIOS?

[BlueMax]

I know pretty much nothing about overclocking ... but why can't you overclock this Dell easily? What about HP system that have been on sale @ FS and BB recently ... would they be overclockable through the BIOS?

the BIOS in almost ALL name-brand systems has many settings removed to prevent you from messing with CPU and memory speeds and voltages, etc.
This can be a good thing in many cases, as you can make your machine very unstable if you don't know *exactly* what you're doing.

[rhayward]

Bit more info:

- Total of 4 RAM slots --> couldn't get sales guy to budge and swap 2x512MB sticks for one 1GB stick though...

- This case does NOT permit addition of a 2nd HDD or optical drive... one each only (this is the deal breaker for me)

Still a good deal though!

Rich

[kanatatech]

Best value in some time for a linux box. There is room to jam a 2nd hdd in this small box if needed.

[CoffeeAddict]

Too bad about case swaps being pretty insane
ah well! I guess if you think about it as a dead-end machine of sorts for a web-surfer it's a pretty good deal. Wish a similar deal was around when i built my parents a Shuttle s939 box :D But at least they can use a full height vid card

[BlueMax]

Bit more info:

- Total of 4 RAM slots --> couldn't get sales guy to budge and swap 2x512MB sticks for one 1GB stick though...


Ahh! I missed that on this one's original configuration. NORMALLY they ship with a pair of 512's... it's unusual to see a single 1GB in there.
WHOOPS! I misread that. Keep the pair of 512's. Get a pair of 1GB's to go with it and you have 3GB - a very nice amount of RAM to have these days.

XP home vs. Pro.... this deal is pretty good with the free shipping and all, but I'd still consider building your own this time if you already own the OS.

The low-profile cards are a huge limitation for many people who want more than just a basic workstation.

[habfan]

Any links to half-height Dual-link PCI-E card?

I want this computer to run Dell 30" monitor....

thanks!

Anyone?

[rhayward]

Best value in some time for a linux box. There is room to jam a 2nd hdd in this small box if needed.

Are you sure? Everbody at Dell I've spoken to (and reviews on internet) say no way to add 2nd HDD in this box. Am I missing something? Possible to use unoccupied floppy/media reader slot?

R

[BlueMax]

Anyone?

Gimme' a sec! Sheesh! :D

You could search for "low profile" video cards, but those are very limited and quite expensive. :mad:

What you CAN do to expand your options is to go through the list on a place with pictures (like Tiger Direct) and watch for the cards that are only about half as high as their full-sized mounting bracket. Those brackets just unscrew and you can stick it in as it is, make your own bracket, or see if a low-profile bracket is included or available.

[willy]

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dimC521/en/SM_EN/anchorsh.jpghttp://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dimC521/en/SM_EN/anchorsj.jpg

More info ... http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dimC521/en/SM_EN/parts.htm

[gates007]

quick question - I've got a ati Radeon X800 PCI-E - would this fit into the half-height slot? Is the X800 better than the graphic card that comes with it? Thanks for your reply in advance! ~gates

edit: it is a Radeon® X800 Pro PCI Express® 256MB

[milhouse6]

Best value in some time for a linux box. There is room to jam a 2nd hdd in this small box if needed.

Really? How?
from the parts link above:

Your computer supports a combination of these devices:

* One optional floppy drive or Media Card Reader

* One CD or DVD drive

* One serial ATA (SATA) hard drive

[Kwirky]

quick question - I've got a ati Radeon X800 PCI-E - would this fit into the half-height slot? Is the X800 better than the graphic card that comes with it? Thanks for your reply in advance! ~gates

edit: it is a Radeon® X800 Pro PCI Express® 256MB

Faster? Yes. Will it fit? Not likely, unless the card has a profile like this one: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=20874&vpn=PVT72PPANG&manufacture=XFX

[gates007]

Re: Ati X800

I got it from a last year RFD Post

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=300074&highlight=Radeon+X800+PCI-E

Can someone tell me what the profile looks like and whether it will fit into this Dell computer? Many, many thanks!

~gates

[aragingbull]

is there a firewire port on this? i can't find it and there's no option listed for it

[Kwirky]

Re: Ati X800

I got it from a last year RFD Post

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=300074&highlight=Radeon+X800+PCI-E

Can someone tell me what the profile looks like and whether it will fit into this Dell computer? Many, many thanks!

~gates

Nope, sorry.

is there a firewire port on this? i can't find it and there's no option listed for it

Nope. See bottom of this page: http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/dimen_c521?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd

Video: 1 DVI, VGA and 1 S-Video (with add-in PCI-Express video card)
USB: 6 Ports (2 Front, 4 Back) + 2 internal
Audio: Audio – six back-panel connectors for line-in, line-out, microphone, rear surround, side surround, two front-panel connectors for headphones/microphone, integrated 7.1 channel sound
Network: Integrated Ethernet
Integrated 10/100 network interface

[gates007]

Nope, sorry.



Nope. See bottom of this page: http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/dimen_c521?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd

Thanks :|

[Derek]

Hasn't been really discussed too much here, but if there's any confusion, it does look like this is today only based on the way it's listed on the Days of Deals page.

[flaming homer]

Are you sure? Everbody at Dell I've spoken to (and reviews on internet) say no way to add 2nd HDD in this box. Am I missing something? Possible to use unoccupied floppy/media reader slot?

Only have 2 internal SATA connector, and both used (DVD, HD)

So no, tough and probably not worth it to add a second HD. Cheaper to REPLACE the existing SATA drive with something bigger down the line

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dimc521/en/OM_EN/RP333A00.zip

[pfdude]

Hasn't been really discussed too much here, but if there's any confusion, it does look like this is today only based on the way it's listed on the Days of Deals page.

Special Offer - Expires: June 8, 2007

[willy]

I suppose one can add a 2nd HD by :

1. Moving the DVD drive to external
2. Mount the 2nd HD with 3.5-to-5.25 brackets.

Of course, you can always add a 2nd external HD instead ... Slower but much easier ...

[ibear]

I suppose one can add a 2nd HD by :

1. Moving the DVD drive to external
2. Mount the 2nd HD with 3.5-to-5.25 brackets.

Of course, you can always add a 2nd external HD instead ... Slower but much easier ...

edited.

[willy]

just use an eSATA external hard drive, theoretically should be of the same speed as an internal SATA drive.
I don't think it has an eSATA port ?? If we need to add a PCI card, it has to be a low-profile one ....

[ibear]

I don't think it has an eSATA port ?? If we need to add a PCI card, it has to be a low-profile one ....

ok. sorry forget the low-profile thing.

[willy]

ok. sorry forget the low-profile thing.
Actually, your idea should work ... We just need to find a low-profile bracket (or even cut a full length one).

http://www.kingwin.com/data/images/718200554712PMSAC-03-LARGEDETAIL.JPG

[sjweyman]

I'm almost glad this doesn't have vista otherwise I would have purchased it and had to deal with all these low profile headaches! I wonder if we'll see a vista E521 with these specs for this cheap anytime soon?!

[tjuzer]

If so I think last deal better. Better processer, cheaper, and 3 month ago too!

[gates007]

Just got the deal - call in to confirm ATI X800 PCI-E should be able to fit eventhough this is a half tower case... I guess we will see.. wish me luck!

~gates

[gates007]

How is this deal compare to computer (HP s7700n) - I saw it at Yonge & King for $549 or $599?

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=85%2C86,414&webid=674430&affixedcode=WW

Just want to make sure I got a decent deal...

[Coolme]

Actually, your idea should work ... We just need to find a low-profile bracket (or even cut a full length one).

http://www.kingwin.com/data/images/718200554712PMSAC-03-LARGEDETAIL.JPG

But there are only 2 sata ports? BTW, is there a IDE plug somewhere on the mobo?

[Freddie1]

How does this deal compare to the Compaq Presario Intel Pentium D 820 Dual Core 2.8GHz Computer (SR2050NX) that is presently on sale a FS for $399 (web only) ?

I know the FS one is refurbished, and the Dell is not, but overall is one a better deal than the other ?

[VivienM]

How does this deal compare to the Compaq Presario Intel Pentium D 820 Dual Core 2.8GHz Computer (SR2050NX) that is presently on sale a FS for $399 (web only) ?

I know the FS one is refurbished, and the Dell is not, but overall is one a better deal than the other ?

The 820 runs crazy hot... this thing is going to run much cooler. If you pay for your electricity this could be a big deal...

[ImmortalShark]

But there are only 2 sata ports? BTW, is there a IDE plug somewhere on the mobo?

Nope.

C521 Specs (http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dimC521/en/SM_EN/specs.htm#wp1052631)


Connectors

External connectors:

Video
15-hole VGA connector

Network adapter
RJ45 connector

USB
two front-panel and four back-panel USB 2.0–compliant connectors

Audio
six connectors for line-in and line-out; two front-panel connectors for headphones and microphone

System board connectors:

SATA
two 7-pin connectors

Floppy drive
34-pin connector

Fan
5-pin connector

PCI 2.3
124-pin connector

PCIe-x1
36-pin connector

PCIe-x16
164-pin connector

Internal USB
10-pin connector (supports two USB ports)

Speaker
6-pin connector

Memory modules
four 240-pin connectors

Power 12V
4-pin connector

Power
24-pin connector

Battery
2-pin socket

[Freddie1]

Thanks Vivienm.

For the sake of discussion, lets say that both systems ran equally cool, and electricity was not a factor, what would be the better buy ?

[Slapshot747]

Nice deal... looking for a laptop.. maybe that will be the added on deal tomorrow...who knows...i will keep watching....:)

[hagbard]

Problem with Dell computers are the compromises you have to make. But they're cheap and if you're happy with the configuration you get and can live with it for the life of the computer, than its worthwhile.

[riskit]

is this the first time that Dell Deals has a desktop

[Kwirky]

Just got the deal - call in to confirm ATI X800 PCI-E should be able to fit eventhough this is a half tower case... I guess we will see.. wish me luck!

~gates

Haha, good luck! I really hope it works because this is a sweet deal, but I will suggest you look at the card you bought rather than relying on Dell sales to tell you what 3rd-party hardware will work.

This is the card you have (I think): http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=3130802
This is a low-profile card: http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2004/1238/powercolor_low-profile.jpg

If you look at the picture, you can make a good size comparison based on the size of the DVI port(s) on the back of the card. Now, Dell does specify on the documents that have been posted here (I think by willy) that it supports low profile cards, so I'm 99% sure that your X800 is not going to fit into this Dell. Sorry for the bad news, hope you can enjoy it anyway, but don't be disappointed if the X800 won't fit, OR get it in writing (email) or record the Dell rep saying that the X800 will fit, as a backup measure :)

EDIT link from willy: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dimC521/en/SM_EN/parts.htm

Your Dell™ computer provides the following slots for PCI and PCI Express cards:

One low-profile PCI card slot
One low-profile PCI Express x1 and x16 card slot

[VivienM]

Thanks Vivienm.

For the sake of discussion, lets say that both systems ran equally cool, and electricity was not a factor, what would be the better buy ?

Hmm... I'd probably go for the Compaq, because it's a lot more expandable. (3 PCI slots of regular size, some internal drive bays, etc.)

But unless you REALLY need a spaceheater, the 820 is just a foolish buy right now. The 8xx series of Pentium Ds is the hottest, most power guzzling lineup of x86 processors ever...

Honestly, it depends what you're looking for. If you need a solid low-end desktop box for your mom/gf/whatever, then I'd go for the Dell. Low power, low noise, the 6150 can run Vista/Aero Glass if you want to upgrade later, smaller, etc. If you're planning to stick them in a corner and run Windows Home Server, I'd get neither... :)

[ibear]

is this the first time that Dell Deals has a desktop

maybe there will be a laptop deal in the coming days:)

[Slapshot747]

maybe there will be a laptop deal in the coming days:)

Yes you could be right.. but im thinking it might be with the low end lappy.... The 1501 inspiron AMD Turion™ 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology TL-56, Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium .... Buts thats a guess..lol...welll see what tomorrow brings...:)

[ibear]

Yes you could be right.. but im thinking it might be with the low end lappy.... The 1501 inspiron AMD Turion™ 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology TL-56, Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium .... Buts thats a guess..lol...welll see what tomorrow brings...:)

would like to see something like I6400 with X1400 video card for $599 lol.

[nini]

If you need Windows XP Professional instead of Windows XP Home edition, go to this link, It's 450CAD and you save 40 bucks from this deal

http://configure.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?cs=cabsdt1&oc=C521A2X_FX_CBCXFX5&l=en&c=ca&kc=223D7


Expire today

[Taft]

How does this deal compare to the Compaq Presario Intel Pentium D 820 Dual Core 2.8GHz Computer (SR2050NX) that is presently on sale a FS for $399 (web only) ?

I know the FS one is refurbished, and the Dell is not, but overall is one a better deal than the other ?

The Dell deal is better by a wide margin. Compaq is a lousy brand, it's a refurb, and the CPU is poorer than the 3600+

[bell02fantasy]

The Dell deal is better by a wide margin. Compaq is a lousy brand, it's a refurb, and the CPU is poorer than the 3600+

does it come with speakers?

[tree]

i have a Haupagge PVR-150 TV tuner card. Would it fit into the PCI slot?Thanks.

[ppl4golf]

i have a Haupagge PVR-150 TV tuner card. Would it fit into the PCI slot?Thanks.

No unless yours is a white box low profile mce version.

[ppl4golf]

This deal is not as appealing as the E521 at the same timeline given the massive drop in prices of DDR2 rams and AMD cpus.

It's not bad of a system if you're into SFF (sort of) and don't need too much performance nor connectivity like IDE, Firewire, extra SATA, onboard DVI/TV/digital audio etc.

If you're thinking about adding a bunch of stuff and taking it apart or moving to a different case and so on...I'd say why bother...you are much better off building your own from scratch.

[Slapshot747]

would like to see something like I6400 with X1400 video card for $599 lol.

Yes that would be nice..thats a nice price range that im looking for..lol...we can hope...Lets see what deals come tomorrow.... :) :)

[VivienM]

The Dell deal is better by a wide margin. Compaq is a lousy brand, it's a refurb, and the CPU is poorer than the 3600+

Except the Compaq has expansion potential, if you wanted to use it as a file server or something... (but then, of course, who wants to spend the electricity feeding an 820 for a home server?)

[Myleena]

It may not be the E521 deal a while ago but I missed it so I'll get this one instead (it's smaller too). Hope they don't put the E521 on sale in the next few days or even weeks...

Also, for someone like me who likes to get a new computer every year or so, upgrading possibilities does not even weight in the balance.

I'll get these 2 X 1GB RAM for $68.88 at DirectCanada too:

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180BD5443

[kool1]

This seems like a very good deal, I may buy tomorrow. My PC is getting there, it's about time.

[VivienM]

This seems like a very good deal, I may buy tomorrow. My PC is getting there, it's about time.

It'll be gone tomorrow, probably...

[tree]

No unless yours is a white box low profile mce version.

Thanks. Then I am going to wait for the E521 to go on sale.

[BlueMax]

Thanks. Then I am going to wait for the E521 to go on sale.

If you need better-than-X1300Pro graphics, that's a good move.

[Squeeky]

What kind of motherboard does Dell use? Is it an Asus like one or a cheapy like ECS?

[TigerMM]

What kind of motherboard does Dell use? Is it an Asus like one or a cheapy like ECS?

Dell uses their own propietary motherboards, made by Foxconn usually, they are reliable but if you're looking for advanced settings like overclocking look elsewhere, they don't have it, basic and reliable is the theme.

[crasher]

thanks, ordered one for a friend :lol:

I am your friend too!!:lol:

[Riddick]

Got one for my dad for father's day.

[sjweyman]

Got one for my dad for father's day.

I am your dad too! :D

[kool1]

It'll be gone tomorrow, probably...

Still available today, I think they have lots if the sale is on until June 8.

[ibear]

Still available today, I think they have lots if the sale is on until June 8.

isn't that Dell is a build-to-order company?

[albertanewbie]

Is this worth the extra money fro the add-on??

GRAPHICS CARD 256MB ATI Radeon X1300 Pro $120.00

Or, the upgrade to 2GB SDRAM for $50.00?

[cannon_fodder]

Is this worth the extra money fro the add-on??

GRAPHICS CARD 256MB ATI Radeon X1300 Pro $120.00

Or, the upgrade to 2GB SDRAM for $50.00?

When I click the link I can get an upgrade to a 250GB HD for an extra $50 but the upgrade to 2GB SDRAM is an extra $100. How did you manage that?

[craigcloneclone]

Dumb question,

Does this require a half-height monitor?

[kool1]

If I buy, I will only upgrade the graphics card to the ATI X1300 for $60. The memory is a rip off for $100.

Waiting for the rep to call me back as I want my extra 5% off.

[blin123]

Is this worth the extra money fro the add-on??

GRAPHICS CARD 256MB ATI Radeon X1300 Pro $120.00

Or, the upgrade to 2GB SDRAM for $50.00?

Not for the graphics card options, they are certainly not worth the extra cash. Those cards are ultra low end and not much better than onboard video.

Now about the memory upgrade: The cheapest you can find 1GB of memory is like $29.99 and thats before tax and the time to pull out your system and install the stuff. I'd say for $50 it's not a bad idea. But remember, this system comes with XP Home and 2GBs of ram is plenty for XP. I think 1GB is just fine for the non-gamer, photoshop, CAD user.

[albertanewbie]

When I click the link I can get an upgrade to a 250GB HD for an extra $50 but the upgrade to 2GB SDRAM is an extra $100. How did you manage that?

It is $100.00.........sorry about that.
Deal or no deal?

[BlueMax]

Not for the graphics card options, they are certainly not worth the extra cash. Those cards are ultra low end and not much better than onboard video.

This is bad advice. Finding a low-profile video card is going to be difficult, and the Radeon X1300Pro is about 5-6x faster than the onboard "free" video. It's a bit pricey at $120, but would save you a LOT of hassle trying to find the right card to fit. The X1300Pro isn't too bad of a video card either. I use mine and get good framerates provided the detail or resolution isn't too high.

[ibear]

Dumb question,

Does this require a half-height monitor?

if you want to put the monitor inside the case.

[ibear]

It is $100.00.........sorry about that.
Deal or no deal?

$100 is too much, just buy it yourself. installing memory is extremely easy.

[blin123]

This is bad advice. Finding a low-profile video card is going to be difficult, and the Radeon X1300Pro is about 5-6x faster than the onboard "free" video. It's a bit pricey at $120, but would save you a LOT of hassle trying to find the right card to fit. The X1300Pro isn't too bad of a video card either. I use mine and get good framerates provided the detail or resolution isn't too high.

Well to be honest your reply makes sense b/c you own the x1300 card. I will agree the X1300pro is a fair bit better than onboard video but at $120 asking price? Thats nearly 30% of the asking price for the entire system. :confused:
Given the ridiculous price of that upgrade, I would not recommend the X1300 pro. Also, considering the size of the case just stick with onboard graphics and use another machine for gaming and graphic intense applications.

[kool1]

Just bought one. No further discount allowed on the purchase because it was a "deal of the day" item. The operator told me that Dell is taking a $135 bath on these at the $399 price.

I am very happy, dual core processor and a decent machine for very little $. Thank you Dell!

[mahjongmaniac]

is this the first time that Dell Deals has a desktop

i don't think they've ever had PCs/laptops as part of the "main Dell deals", but possible for the "side-menu" deals they might have....

[garyl]

would this refurb (http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10085967&catid=24137&PCName=VROP&logon=&langid=EN) better than C521?

Processor Type Intel Viiv With Intel Core 2 Duo E6300
Processor Speed 1.86GHz
RAM 2048MB PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM (Exp. To 4GB)
Hard Drive 250GB SATA (7200RPM)
Optical Drives Dual Layer 16X DVD+/-RW With LightScribe
Graphics Card 256MB Integrated GMA 3000 (Shared)
Available Expansion Bays 2 x 5.25", 1 x 3.5", 1 x 3.5" (Internal)
Available Expansion Slots 3 PCI Slots (2 Available), 1 PCI-E x16
Cache 2MB L2
Disk Drive No
Fax/Modem 56K Modem
I/O Ports See The Features Section
Included Software See The Features Section
Monitor Included? No
Network Card 10/100 Ethernet
Other Control Devices HP Multimedia Keyboard Scroll Mouse
Preloaded Operating System Windows XP Media Center 2005
Sound Card High-Def. Audio 8 Speaker Configurable
Speakers No
System Bus 1066MHz FSB
Warranty 90 Day

[realize]

would this refurb (http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10085967&catid=24137&PCName=VROP&logon=&langid=EN) better than C521?

its not $399 but its alot better

;)

core2duo's own

[Master]

I have a Celeron D at 2.66Ghz with 512 RAM.

If I buy this, will I experience a 100% (double) in increase in overall speed? I mainly use it to stream online quotes (trading), watch a small clips, word processing, and web browsing.

Thanks...need someone computer savy to answer this.

[Ratzilla]

I have a Celeron D at 2.66Ghz with 512 RAM.

If I buy this, will I experience a 100% (double) in increase in overall speed? I mainly use it to stream online quotes (trading), watch a small clips, word processing, and web browsing.

Thanks...need someone computer savy to answer this.

yeah, the x2 3600 is at least twice as much processing power (doesn't mean things will operate twice as FAST) than your celeron

[superfigz]

I have a Celeron D at 2.66Ghz with 512 RAM.

If I buy this, will I experience a 100% (double) in increase in overall speed? I mainly use it to stream online quotes (trading), watch a small clips, word processing, and web browsing.

Thanks...need someone computer savy to answer this.

You will experience an increase in performance, but it won't be double. Based on what you use your computer for, you're best off just buying another 1gb RAM and you should be fine.

[willy]

yeah, the x2 3600 is at least twice as much processing power (doesn't mean things will operate twice as FAST) than your celeron
I think master is asking about the 'overall' speed .... which needs to put the rest of the subsystems (HD, RAM, possibly video) into consideration.

[kanatatech]

Are you sure? Everbody at Dell I've spoken to (and reviews on internet) say no way to add 2nd HDD in this box. Am I missing something? Possible to use unoccupied floppy/media reader slot?

R
More than enough room if you use your imagination or at least some duct tape.

[firechkn]

Sweet, made the call to Dell and received my additional 10% off discount for registering some time ago. Final price $409.26.

It was a painful 30 min going over the details and on hold, but was worth it in the end :)

[cloneman]

no. 1GB DDR2 is available elsewhere now for like 30 bucks. You can get a better video card for that price I think.

[Ratzilla]

I think master is asking about the 'overall' speed .... which needs to put the rest of the subsystems (HD, RAM, possibly video) into consideration.

even the best quad core computer wouldnt double the speed of operation...(for cutting time off application launches and things like that)

[BlueMax]

I have a Celeron D at 2.66Ghz with 512 RAM.

If I buy this, will I experience a 100% (double) in increase in overall speed? I mainly use it to stream online quotes (trading), watch a small clips, word processing, and web browsing.

Thanks...need someone computer savy to answer this.

It might feel a bit peppier... snappier response. The things you're using your Celeron for aren't especially demanding. There are other tasks though where this Dell machine would be likely FIVE TIMES faster than the Celeron - such as graphics-intensive programs like video editing and games. I'm betting even the 3D graphics built-in to the Dell are also better than what you're using now.

Especially if you want the OS, this would be a good upgrade choice for you.

[kanatatech]

Really? How?
from the parts link above:

Your computer supports a combination of these devices:

* One optional floppy drive or Media Card Reader

* One CD or DVD drive

* One serial ATA (SATA) hard drive

There is no bracket or slot specificaly designed for a 2nd hdd in this small box but you can jam one in no problem.

[BlueMax]

Well to be honest your reply makes sense b/c you own the x1300 card. I will agree the X1300pro is a fair bit better than onboard video but at $120 asking price? Thats nearly 30% of the asking price for the entire system. :confused:
Given the ridiculous price of that upgrade, I would not recommend the X1300 pro. Also, considering the size of the case just stick with onboard graphics and use another machine for gaming and graphic intense applications.
Quite a sensible opinion. The power supply in this Dell wouldn't handle a super-high-end card anyways.

I'd buy this particular machine STOCK and get RAM/video elsewhere.

I'll scour TD again, and show the best cards available that would fit.

[BlueMax]

If you need Windows XP Professional instead of Windows XP Home edition, go to this link, It's 450CAD and you save 40 bucks from this deal

http://configure.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?cs=cabsdt1&oc=C521A2X_FX_CBCXFX5&l=en&c=ca&kc=223D7


Expire today

Anyone else catch this? That was awesome! Where'd you find that deal? :)

Good job, Nini!

[lastchild01]

hey i need a pci wireless g card, would it be able to fit in this thing??

[kool1]

yeah, the x2 3600 is at least twice as much processing power (doesn't mean things will operate twice as FAST) than your celeron

I find memory speeds up most applications more than anything.

[willy]

hey i need a pci wireless g card, would it be able to fit in this thing??
You can always use a USB one .... http://www.cty.ca/details.asp?pid=1943

[realize]

hey i need a pci wireless g card, would it be able to fit in this thing??

if not wireless 54mbps USB will work $29

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=&webid=657427&affixedcode=WW



;)

[BlueMax]

This is likely the best card you'll be able to get for this thing. It's $200-30=$170

X1650 Pro
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2918623&CatId=1558

[Serbtastic]

I'm thinking of picking up one of these for a HTPC. My tv will support 1080p over vga, does anyone know if this thing will output 1920X1080 through VGA?

[Riddick]

hey i need a pci wireless g card, would it be able to fit in this thing??

I have this in my current computer. Would it fit in the C521?

http://www.ateck.com/images/MN730.jpg

[LNahid2000]

Doesn't look like a half-height card to me, so no.

This computer would be a good deal if it wasn't for all the half-height hassles.

[masterc]

I have this in my current computer. Would it fit in the C521?

http://www.ateck.com/images/MN730.jpg

The metal bracket is a full height one. You could remove that, it should just unscrew, and replace witha half height bracket - available at most comp. stores. You may have to mod the bracket if they only have video card ones...

Less hassle - get a usb wireless antenna...

[gates007]

Haha, good luck! I really hope it works because this is a sweet deal, but I will suggest you look at the card you bought rather than relying on Dell sales to tell you what 3rd-party hardware will work.

This is the card you have (I think): http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=3130802
This is a low-profile card: http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2004/1238/powercolor_low-profile.jpg

If you look at the picture, you can make a good size comparison based on the size of the DVI port(s) on the back of the card. Now, Dell does specify on the documents that have been posted here (I think by willy) that it supports low profile cards, so I'm 99% sure that your X800 is not going to fit into this Dell. Sorry for the bad news, hope you can enjoy it anyway, but don't be disappointed if the X800 won't fit, OR get it in writing (email) or record the Dell rep saying that the X800 will fit, as a backup measure :)

EDIT link from willy: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dimC521/en/SM_EN/parts.htm

Thanks for your post! I emailed DELL last night and they confirmed this morning that my card will not fit, contrary to what they said yesterday... they admit is there fault but did not provide a solution... :| the rep said she is trying to cancel the order but can't not do it in the system.

I suggested adding the X1300 Pro 256 MB for additional $60 (vs. reg. $120). Not sure if they will do it... still waiting...

If they are able to do it, do you guys think it will still be a good deal?

~gates

[Kwirky]

Doesn't look like a half-height card to me, so no.

This computer would be a good deal if it wasn't for all the half-height hassles.

Agreed! This is not a computer for enthusiasts, it's one for small spaces & people who would never attempt an upgrade.

[VivienM]

Agreed! This is not a computer for enthusiasts, it's one for small spaces & people who would never attempt an upgrade.

The problem is... a lot of enthusiasts might want a computer designed for small spaces to be used as an HTPC or home server or something like that. Why deal with the bulk/ugliness/etc of a full ATX case for those purposes?

Unfortunately, this system is WAY too compromised to be useful for those purposes...

[Kwirky]

Thanks for your post! I emailed DELL last night and they confirmed this morning that my card will not fit, contrary to what they said yesterday... they admit is there fault but did not provide a solution... :| the rep said she is trying to cancel the order but can't not do it in the system.

I suggested adding the X1300 Pro 256 MB for additional $60 (vs. reg. $120). Not sure if they will do it... still waiting...

If they are able to do it, do you guys think it will still be a good deal?

~gates

$60 for the X1300 is reasonable for the card, although not very good performance-per-dollar, especially compared with the deal you got on your X800. $120 is pricey & it makes it cheaper to build a new PC & reuse your X800.

If you really need a powerful discreet GPU, the X1300 isn't going to cut it - your current video card is over twice as fast as the X1300, and if that's the case it might be worth passing on this deal altogether. If you can live with the $60 X1300 or the onboard graphics, it's still a good deal.

[gates007]

$60 for the X1300 is reasonable for the card, although not very good performance-per-dollar, especially compared with the deal you got on your X800. $120 is pricey & it makes it cheaper to build a new PC & reuse your X800.

If you really need a powerful discreet GPU, the X1300 isn't going to cut it - your current video card is over twice as fast as the X1300, and if that's the case it might be worth passing on this deal altogether. If you can live with the $60 X1300 or the onboard graphics, it's still a good deal.

Thank you... the X800 is a spare card I bought last year in anticipation of a new computer... but the computer I am currently using now is a pathetic ATI 9200SE so I guess I will be able to live with X1300 Pro 256MB!

I thought half -height X1300 Pro 256 MB cost more than $60 if I were to buy it myself and install it, no? As such, if Dell is able to make it for me for $60, should this be a pretty good deal give the hard-to-find status of the half-height card?

Gates

[Kwirky]

Thank you... the X800 is a spare card I bought last year in anticipation of a new computer... but the computer I am currently using now is a pathetic ATI 9200SE so I guess I will be able to live with X1300 Pro 256MB!

I thought half -height X1300 Pro 256 MB cost more than $60 if I were to buy it myself and install it, no? As such, if Dell is able to make it for me for $60, should this be a pretty good deal give the hard-to-find status of the half-height card?

Gates

Yeah, the X1300 for $60 is a good price, no doubt there, but the question is if you were to spend $460 and use the X800 you've already got, could you build this system (or better) for a similar price? On the flipside, i guess you could always sell your X800 for ~$60 and negate the cost of the X1300...

[japcutie]

oh oh oh Thank you Dell! I got one :)

[Ratzilla]

I'm thinking of picking up one of these for a HTPC. My tv will support 1080p over vga, does anyone know if this thing will output 1920X1080 through VGA?

that is a pretty high resolution for thsi onboard video card.. But I'm pretty sure that if you dont game, it'll be fine.

[gates007]

Yeah, the X1300 for $60 is a good price, no doubt there, but the question is if you were to spend $460 and use the X800 you've already got, could you build this system (or better) for a similar price? On the flipside, i guess you could always sell your X800 for ~$60 and negate the cost of the X1300...

hmm... very well said... you are right... I didn't think of it that way. I am not sure if whether I can build a better system... I suspect I can. I am looking for the form factor, hence this one catches my eyes.

I guess we will see if Dell can do it for me. If not, what are some other cheap half-height card you can recommend for this system? I know someone on this thread has already suggested a $170 card. That is too pricey for me... do you have any recommendations? Thanks again for your help and your opinion and knowledge is highly valued!

Gates

[neo1973]

I'm thinking of picking up one of these for a HTPC. My tv will support 1080p over vga, does anyone know if this thing will output 1920X1080 through VGA?

From my experience with my friend's computer with similar specs, the onboard NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE won't cut it for HD video at 1080p. I ended up got a 8500GT for him.

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=23789&vpn=GV-NX85T256H&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1060

[BlueMax]

The 7300GS is a decent price, but you have to add shipping. $74
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3053798&CatId=1558

Same for this X1550 @ $107 - 20 = $87
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3002825&CatId=1558

If you can politely convince Dell to reduce the cost of the X1300Pro upgrade, just go with that. Far easier! Still... if you need more graphics horsepower, look for a deal on the E521...

[BlueMax]

From my experience with my friend's computer with similar specs, the onboard NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE won't cut it for HD video at 1080p. I ended up got a 8500GT for him.

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=23789&vpn=GV-NX85T256H&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1060

This is NOT a low-profile card. :|

[gates007]

The 7300GS is a decent price, but you have to add shipping. $74
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3053798&CatId=1558

Same for this X1550 @ $107 - 20 = $87
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3002825&CatId=1558

If you can politely convince Dell to reduce the cost of the X1300Pro upgrade, just go with that. Far easier! Still... if you need more graphics horsepower, look for a deal on the E521...


Thanks Bluemax... that is what I am trying to do... politely convince them to give me the X1300 Pro 256MB for $60 (I really think the error is on their part given I asked specifically about that and I got a firm answer twice in the conversation)

If not, which card in your suggestion do you think is better? nvda vs. ati in your list? Thanks again!

Gates

[neo1973]

This is NOT a low-profile card. :|

I know because his case is a standard ATX.

[BlueMax]

Thanks Bluemax... that is what I am trying to do... politely convince them to give me the X1300 Pro 256MB for $60 (I really think the error is on their part given I asked specifically about that and I got a firm answer twice in the conversation)

If not, which card in your suggestion do you think is better? nvda vs. ati in your list? Thanks again!

Gates

Given the two cards in my quote, the 7300GS is only equal to the X1300 (maybe the pro.) The X1550 is a fair bit more power.... I'd go that route. (I checked that X1550 to make sure it was 128-bit and not a castrated 64-bit version. It's 128bit.) It's more power for less money than Dell's $120 X1300pro.

[gates007]

Given the two cards in my quote, the 7300GS is only equal to the X1300 (maybe the pro.) The X1550 is a fair bit more power.... I'd go that route. (I checked that X1550 to make sure it was 128-bit and not a castrated 64-bit version. It's 128bit.) It's more power for less money than Dell's $120 X1300pro.

Thanks - so may I will ask Dell to give me a discount on the existing deal and use the savings to buy the card you suggested! Thanks again for your advice!

gates

[gates007]

Given the two cards in my quote, the 7300GS is only equal to the X1300 (maybe the pro.) The X1550 is a fair bit more power.... I'd go that route. (I checked that X1550 to make sure it was 128-bit and not a castrated 64-bit version. It's 128bit.) It's more power for less money than Dell's $120 X1300pro.

One more thing, do you know if X1550 will meet the dell power requirement, and I would just like to confirm again that this is a low, profile card... Would you be able to let me know?

Dell C521 Specs:
"Externally Accessible
Video: 1 DVI, VGA and 1 S-Video (with add-in PCI-Express video card)
USB: 6 Ports (2 Front, 4 Back) + 2 internal
Audio: Audio – six back-panel connectors for line-in, line-out, microphone, rear surround, side surround, two front-panel connectors for headphones/microphone, integrated 7.1 channel sound
Network: Integrated Ethernet
Integrated 10/100 network interface



Expansion Slots
PCI: 1 Slots
PCIe x1: 1 Slot
PCIe x16 (Graphics): 1 Slots

Chassis
280 Watt DC Power Supply Backup battery: 3-V CR2032 lithium coin cell


3.5" Bays: 2 bays (one external; one internal)
5.25" Bays: 1 bays
Memory DIMM slots: 4 available

Dimensions & Weight
H: 15.8" (40.13 cm)
W: 4.5" (11.43 cm)
D: 14.2" (36.07 cm)

-------------------------------

Diamond Radeon X1550 Card:
420 Watt ATX 2.0 or greater power supply.Consult your computer system manual to ensure the power supply is designed to accommodate a high-end graphics card with a peak dissipation above 75 watts.

[Coolme]

The x1550 is the exact same card as the x1300.

Here's more info about the x1550 http://news.softpedia.com/news/X1300-Will-Be-Known-as-X1550-40422.shtml

Also, this particular card http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3002825&CatId=1558 uses GDDR memory while most x1300/x1550 cards use GDDR2 memory.

Right now, assuming that dell's Ati x1300 pro isn't crippled in any way, it is the best graphical solution of the bunch for this computer.

[gates007]

Yeah, the X1300 for $60 is a good price, no doubt there, but the question is if you were to spend $460 and use the X800 you've already got, could you build this system (or better) for a similar price? On the flipside, i guess you could always sell your X800 for ~$60 and negate the cost of the X1300...

I just spoke with Dell customer care - they said return it and I will get a 60 on the next system purchase! WTF!

or

I can get the X1300 Pro 256 MB and ship separately for $75

What do you think guys? Which deal should I get?

Gates

[Coolme]

I just spoke with Dell customer care - they said return it and I will get a 60 on the next system purchase! WTF!

or

I can get the X1300 Pro 256 MB and ship separately for $75

What do you think guys? Which deal should I get?

Gates

I have a sinking feeling on this one, but I'd get a 60 on next system purchase as long as it can be applied to ALL DEALS including limited quantity and online only deals.

[gates007]

The x1550 is the exact same card as the x1300.

Here's more info about the x1550 http://news.softpedia.com/news/X1300-Will-Be-Known-as-X1550-40422.shtml

Also, this particular card http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3002825&CatId=1558 uses GDDR memory while most x1300/x1550 cards use GDDR2 memory.

Right now, assuming that dell's Ati x1300 pro isn't crippled in any way, it is the best graphical solution of the bunch for this computer.

Thanks for your comments - that's helpful (I'm serious)

Dell agreed to rebuild my order + X1300 Pro 256mb but only adding $60. My final bill including taxes is $514. Not to bad?? comments?

Gates

[DaveCheliose]

Nice deal for some people, but giving it 5 stars is just over the top.

[masterc]

This guy is selling a E521 ... http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251376&highlight=e521

[BlueMax]

I just spoke with Dell customer care - they said return it and I will get a 60 on the next system purchase! WTF!

or

I can get the X1300 Pro 256 MB and ship separately for $75

What do you think guys? Which deal should I get?

Gates

I would take the lower price on the video card NOW while you need it. $60 vs. $45 isn't that huge.

[cheapmother]

Does this box have enough video juice to run the Aero interface in Vista?

[VivienM]

Does this box have enough video juice to run the Aero interface in Vista?

Yup. The 6150 should get about 3.0 in WEI. But... buying a box with XP seems silly once you add up the cost of a Vista upgrade?

[cheapmother]

Yup. The 6150 should get about 3.0 in WEI. But... buying a box with XP seems silly once you add up the cost of a Vista upgrade?

I have a friend who works at MS in Redmond that gave me a copy of Vista Ultimate - I think he paid $40 USD for it or something...

Thanks for the confirmation.

[wpgguy99]

I was on the fence on this deal.

I decided to pass as it was a little more then I wanted to spend and I did not like the limitations on the unit.

Thanks for posting the deal because I was very interested and almost bought one.

Cbit had some nice deals on. Sale ends today but they always have sales on, and the stuff may still be the same price.

I am not saying this is the cheapest in the country or from online, but I was happy with what I got and liked the advice I got.

If you have alot of components to re use upgrade packages are a good price right now. So those on the fence may want to pay a visit and consider their options.

AMD Athlon 64 3800+ X2 AM2 97.95
Foxcom 6100NDMA-R2H 99.95
Kingston DDR2-667 1 GIG 39.95
Fan Free - Retail CPU
+ Taxes

This supports all older things but also also additions for new, so it was a good fit for me.

[nguyentri]

Is an X2 AM2 the same chip as X2 Dual-Core?

I was on the fence on this deal.

AMD Athlon 64 3800+ X2 AM2 97.95
Foxcom 6100NDMA-R2H 99.95
Kingston DDR2-667 1 GIG 39.95
Fan Free - Retail CPU
+ Taxes

This supports all older things but also also additions for new, so it was a good fit for me.

[ppl4golf]

I was on the fence on this deal.

I decided to pass as it was a little more then I wanted to spend and I did not like the limitations on the unit.

Thanks for posting the deal because I was very interested and almost bought one.

Cbit had some nice deals on. Sale ends today but they always have sales on, and the stuff may still be the same price.

I am not saying this is the cheapest in the country or from online, but I was happy with what I got and liked the advice I got.

If you have alot of components to re use upgrade packages are a good price right now. So those on the fence may want to pay a visit and consider their options.

AMD Athlon 64 3800+ X2 AM2 97.95
Foxcom 6100NDMA-R2H 99.95
Kingston DDR2-667 1 GIG 39.95
Fan Free - Retail CPU
+ Taxes

This supports all older things but also also additions for new, so it was a good fit for me.

The foxconn mobo is more like $70, for $100 there are some newer and more feature rich AM2 mobos that gives DVI/HDMI/firewire etc.

[wpgguy99]

The foxconn mobo is more like $70, for $100 there are some newer and more feature rich AM2 mobos that gives DVI/HDMI/firewire etc.

I wasn't bragging about what I got, and also said in my post you may be able to get it cheaper. (NCIX is $85 + shipping) The point was to inform people that an upgrade route may be a good option based on their situation. In Winnipeg I would be surprised if those prices could be beat at local stores. I have shopped there for years and they changed the computer market in Winnipeg for the better when they came in (Decent prices etc...) so i like to support them. So I think you get a solid deal when you go there. Maybe not the best, but close enough. Also they assemble the board, cpu, fan, and ram and start it up to show you what you're getting and that it works ... or appears to.

I always like what I see at Tiger Direct, then shipping is ridiculous. Also most their CPU's don't come with fans. Online TD ... the thing that always kills deals for me is shipping. They call it brown for a reason :lol:

I didn't want any of those other features listed because I won't use them. What I liked about this board was it is balance between supporting old, and allowing for new. For instance when I saw the dell was missing the printer port that was a big deal for me. My laser is only a few years old, but is not usb. You can get cables to convert, but I found they sometimes are inconsistent.

[ppl4golf]

I wasn't bragging about what I got, and also said in my post you may be able to get it cheaper. (NCIX is $85 + shipping) The point was to inform people that an upgrade route may be a good option based on their situation. In Winnipeg I would be surprised if those prices could be beat at local stores. I have shopped there for years and they changed the computer market in Winnipeg for the better when they came in (Decent prices etc...) so i like to support them. So I think you get a solid deal when you go there. Maybe not the best, but close enough. Also they assemble the board, cpu, fan, and ram and start it up to show you what you're getting and that it works ... or appears to.

I always like what I see at Tiger Direct, then shipping is ridiculous. Also most their CPU's don't come with fans. Online TD ... the thing that always kills deals for me is shipping. They call it brown for a reason :lol:

I didn't want any of those other features listed because I won't use them. What I liked about this board was it is balance between supporting old, and allowing for new. For instance when I saw the dell was missing the printer port that was a big deal for me. My laser is only a few years old, but is not usb. You can get cables to convert, but I found they sometimes are inconsistent.

Sorry...I didn't mean to put down your mobo, I use a similar one by ASRock and nothing out there has less feature than the ASRock except for an OEM board like HPs or Dells :~)
I too like to shop local whenever possible, though not always cheapest. TD is local, even without the shipping for me, I don't find it particularly appealing to shop there, though the place is packed every time I am there.