View Full Version : Great deal on Men's Suits - CK, RL, etc...
dudestr
May 8th, 2007, 01:06 AM
Calvin Klein suit @ Tip Top or Grafton and Co was about $600. So I looked online and found a supplier out in Montreal.This same suit came out to $340 so I bought 4 and they gave me a 10% discount and $5 shipping.
Anyway here's the main site
http://www.execstyle.com
they also have a Canadian website as welll but I used the main US one since it was cheaper and I have a US visa
http://www.boutiquejacques.com
BenK
May 8th, 2007, 01:19 AM
i dont trust buying suits online, definately something u need to try on..
Webby
May 8th, 2007, 06:13 AM
Try them on in store and buy online!
Nice find, thanks OP!
Aggy
May 8th, 2007, 08:16 AM
Funny cause I was going to post my deal on my Calvin Klein suit last week and this popped up. Check out Caruso's at 830 Danforth, Toronto. I bought the same black suit they have at Tip Top (around $600 + tax + alterations) for $495 taxes included. They also threw in cufflinks ($50), a tie ($75), a handkerchief and alterations ($30) all for free! They also made me a custom dress shirt for $100 or so. The deal was so good I bought the brown Calvin Klein suit ($495 taxes included) with free alterations and another tie! These guys have other suits there as well, but they will alter everything. I bought on off the rack shirt and they altered that as well for free. They can also do a fully tailor made suit for under $1000. Oh yeah...they also have a wall with pictures of old clients...Vince Carter, Damon Stoudomire, Jamal Maglore...and for the non-basketball fan...Keifer Sutherland!
The black suit is for my wedding in June and it looks good!
belgiangenius
May 8th, 2007, 09:50 AM
$340 is a tonne of money for a suit, Dude.
ssainani
May 8th, 2007, 09:51 AM
$340 is a tonne of money for a suit, Dude.
if you normally shop at International Clothiers yes
otherwise no
Fishing
May 8th, 2007, 09:54 AM
$340 is a tonne of money for a suit, Dude.
not really. $340 is quite low
CoffeeAddict
May 8th, 2007, 10:00 AM
$340 is about the same you'd pay at the Buffalo CK or RL outlets at the Canada One (or whatever it's called) mall. Keep in mind these suits are fuxed which means the two layers are glued together in the jacket. Make sure you take good care of them otherwise the glue will come apart and they'll end up looking like crap.
If you take good care of it, dry clean only once per season (if you wear it often) it should last quite a while.
i've got a custom RL suit that I bought when i used to work for them and it was roughly $350 at the time. It's usually a $1000 suit and it's STILL glued! Quality in suits for the most part in the big labels is the same from the $600-$1200 range. Go beyond that then you'll have a suit for life. But since we're on RFD we're not thinking about buying a $5000 Kiton suit :D
Jaytee
May 8th, 2007, 10:36 AM
How can you tell by looking at it if its been glued together? Thanks.
$340 is about the same you'd pay at the Buffalo CK or RL outlets at the Canada One (or whatever it's called) mall. Keep in mind these suits are fuxed which means the two layers are glued together in the jacket. Make sure you take good care of them otherwise the glue will come apart and they'll end up looking like crap.
If you take good care of it, dry clean only once per season (if you wear it often) it should last quite a while.
i've got a custom RL suit that I bought when i used to work for them and it was roughly $350 at the time. It's usually a $1000 suit and it's STILL glued! Quality in suits for the most part in the big labels is the same from the $600-$1200 range. Go beyond that then you'll have a suit for life. But since we're on RFD we're not thinking about buying a $5000 Kiton suit :D
TorontoEh
May 8th, 2007, 10:48 AM
Yep quality of these suits is why people go for them!
I bought 2 CK/RL suits back in 04 in NJ/NY and to this day they look brand new!!! paid only $500 USD no tax :)
SO yes, investing in these is a sure deal, offcourse it'd be nice if you could score Armani or versace..lol
wikkid_bigshot
May 8th, 2007, 11:15 AM
if you normally shop at International Clothiers yes
otherwise no
burn of the forest fire proportion.
jakemtl
May 8th, 2007, 11:25 AM
None of those suit brands are good quality. Not to mention the number of knock-offs that exist. I once walked into this place where they were sewing labels on the inside of the jacket - RL, CK, etc. I would be really hesitant to buy this online. Not to mention that $340 is a crappy price. if you are set on those brands wait until the Bay has a sale.
belgiangenius
May 8th, 2007, 11:35 AM
None of those suit brands are good quality. Not to mention the number of knock-offs that exist. I once walked into this place where they were sewing labels on the inside of the jacket - RL, CK, etc. I would be really hesitant to buy this online. Not to mention that $340 is a crappy price. if you are set on those brands wait until the Bay has a sale.
I agree. I have a few suits I bought at Moore's for $250 each.
I've tried on the more expensive brand name suits and, quite frankly, they feel like crap compared to the Moore's suits.
qster
May 8th, 2007, 11:42 AM
$340 is a tonne of money for a suit, Dude.
I guess you don't shop much or you hit the mall stores like others have posted here.. lol...
I good suit will run you in the $400-800 range.
I great suit that is well fitted or tailored will run you in the $1000-2500.
Again... its the saying, "you get what you paid for".
And you can spot a cheap Mexx suit a mile away...compared to a Canali or Zegna suit.
Why would you waste your $$$ on a Versace suit? they are butt ugly and go out of style faster then you drop the cash for the suit at the store.
belgiangenius
May 8th, 2007, 11:47 AM
I guess you don't shop much or you hit the mall stores like others have posted here.. lol...
I good suit will run you in the $400-800 range.
I great suit that is well fitted or tailored will run you in the $1000-2500.
Again... its the saying, "you get what you paid for".
And you can spot a cheap Mexx suit a mile away...compared to a Canali or Zegna suit.
Why would you waste your $$$ on a Versace suit? they are butt ugly and go out of style faster then you drop the cash for the suit at the store.
A good suit, at the right store, will run you at least $200.
If you want a butt reaming anywhere else, the sky's the limit!
TurboTropic
May 8th, 2007, 11:57 AM
A good suit, at the right store, will run you at least $200.
If you want a butt reaming anywhere else, the sky's the limit!
I don't agree with you and I don't see anyone else on here that does either. Maybe you can provide examples of a "good suit" and "the right store" to back up your comment?
I definitely recommend The Bay at their end of season sales. I got 75% off my last suit there. However, I was lucky - if I needed a suit at another time of year I wouldn't have got such a good deal.
threeflags
May 8th, 2007, 12:02 PM
I don't agree with you and I don't see anyone else on here that does either. Maybe you can provide examples of a "good suit" and "the right store" to back up your comment?
I definitely recommend The Bay at their end of season sales. I got 75% off my last suit there. However, I was lucky - if I needed a suit at another time of year I wouldn't have got such a good deal.
Does that include West End Shop suits?
willpoon
May 8th, 2007, 12:21 PM
Ya, back in Hong Kong, you can get a suit for $500 HK dollars! hahahaha
sonick
May 8th, 2007, 12:23 PM
$340 is a tonne of money for a suit, Dude.HAHHAAHA no, $340 is peanuts for a suit.
sonick
May 8th, 2007, 12:24 PM
Ya, back in Hong Kong, you can get a suit for $500 HK dollars! hahahahaDoes that include the $2000 airfare to HK? :lol:
Kwik-E-Mart
May 8th, 2007, 12:39 PM
Does that include the $2000 airfare to HK? :lol:
Unless you fly Cathay Pacific all the time, airfare is actually about $900 from VanCity to HK if you do not take direct flights
monty613
May 8th, 2007, 12:42 PM
I've tried on the more expensive brand name suits and, quite frankly, they feel like crap compared to the Moore's suits.
Maybe if it's some polyester-blend RL/CK suit...look for 100% wool
Kwik-E-Mart
May 8th, 2007, 12:48 PM
Talking about getting suits in HK, that's also not to mention about ones that make you look like a "captain" serving in a typical Chinese restaurant (a la G2000)... I am sure there are lots available for HK$500! :lol:
testtest188
May 8th, 2007, 01:37 PM
I agree. I have a few suits I bought at Moore's for $250 each.
I've tried on the more expensive brand name suits and, quite frankly, they feel like crap compared to the Moore's suits.
Moores suits feel "good" when you wear them? Buy a clue buddy. It feels like you're putting on a stiff burlap sack. High twist worsted gives durability, strength and is light-weight. Which is why people pay more for it, instead of a garbage Poly-blend you claim feels "good".
And while you're sweating away in that unbreathable poly, also consider that Moores suits also have generic styles, and cuts, because they are mass produced from a handful of suit templates. And getting "fitted" at a Moores store is akin to getting your car painted at Maaco. They know how to do it, they just don't know how to do it with any skill.
Don't bash people for paying more than you do because they are well informed. Perhaps you should become informed before you spout ignorant opinion all over the place...
polypep
May 8th, 2007, 01:57 PM
I definitely recommend The Bay at their end of season sales. I got 75% off my last suit there. However, I was lucky - if I needed a suit at another time of year I wouldn't have got such a good deal.
I agree, Bay has good suits, not the very best but if you can wait for their sales, you can pick up a sweat deal. this last sale when they had another 40% clearance priced items, I picked up a nice Claiborne Luxe Super 140 navy blue pick stiched English style suite for $180 (tax incl). I was lucky as I hardly find my size suits on clearance. That suit was regularly priced at $495. The salesperson said that it was the last suit they had in stock so went to the rack.
In my opinion Bay has better suits as compared to Moore's if the price is right. For everyday suits, probably Moore's is better as you don't want to spend $500 on every other suit. At the same time always check Sears for their sale on suits too. Sometimes they have incredible pricing. Just to give you an example, I picked up a Van Heusan 3 button suit for under $100 with only $5 for pant hemming. The suit was marked at 50% off but when scanned came at 75% off regular price.
Moores also carries good suits but then you have to pay premium for them.
TenzoR
May 8th, 2007, 01:58 PM
I need to bring the gf for these kinds of shopping
CoffeeAddict
May 8th, 2007, 02:02 PM
How can you tell by looking at it if its been glued together? Thanks.
There's no real way to tell just by looking at a suit if it's glued or not. The easiest way to tell is in the lapel. Grab the lapel and try to pull the two layers apart with your fingers. If they separate easily, that is the layer inbetween the two outer layers, then it is not glued. If they stick together that means they're glued. In glued suits there's also a tough feeling mesh inside which is the substrate onto which the fibres are glued.
The other major difference between a glued suit and a non-glued suit is that the lapels are creased with a machine. On high-end suit the lapels are rolled by machine or by hand so that you get a nice "roll" to the lapel. This is the major visible difference in a nice suit and a GREAT suit.
I'm not knocking these RL or CK suits... they're fine. There's just a very big difference between a mass produced suit and a quality suit.
Finally, you can get these handmade, tailored suits that usually cost upward s of $2500-$3000 in Hong Kong. There's an infamous place there where you can get a custom suit out of the finest materials for only $500 USD or so. That is the true RFD bargain in terms of suits. GQ did a story about these guys a few times. New York wall streeters are famous for flying to HK just to grab a couple of suits because the overall cost of a flight, hotel, and a couple of suits is CHEAPER than just buying a couple of expensive off-the-rack suits in New York from the big Italian fashion houses.
mic2074
May 8th, 2007, 02:07 PM
why pay the premium for simply the label on the suit... I had a custom suit done back in Hk for $450CAD - great quality and fit. You simply cannot get that kind of fit with an altered off the rack suit. The fit makes you feel like a million bucks. Check these guys out, they come to Canada every few months, get your measurements and then sends the suit to you from HK... they do shirts, as well... great quality - like $150 CAD for 3.
http://www.maxwellsclothiers.com/
CoffeeAddict
May 8th, 2007, 02:08 PM
I *THINK* this is the guy in Hong Kong that's famous for his suits
http://www.samstailor.com/
belgiangenius
May 8th, 2007, 02:09 PM
Don't bash people for paying more than you do because they are well informed. Perhaps you should become informed before you spout ignorant opinion all over the place...
In the end, this is red flag deals - not red flag ripoffs. No need to get defensive just because you look like an ass spending hundreds of dollars on a piece of clothing.
$500 a good deal for a custom tailored suit - okay. $500 a good deal for a mass produced suit just because it has a label on it? Me thinks not.
testtest188
May 8th, 2007, 02:39 PM
In the end, this is red flag deals - not red flag ripoffs. No need to get defensive just because you look like an ass spending hundreds of dollars on a piece of clothing.
$500 a good deal for a custom tailored suit - okay. $500 a good deal for a mass produced suit just because it has a label on it? Me thinks not.
you're clearly the one that looks like an ass in this forum. :twisted:
just because you aren't bright enough to understand the differences between two suits doesn't mean that other people should be as dim-witted.
and yes, it is a "deals" site. does that mean that people are on here looking for crap to buy at a cheap price? No, they are looking for quality at a cheap price.
Don't profess knowledge in a domain where you clearly have none in.
CoinSaver
May 8th, 2007, 02:59 PM
why pay the premium for simply the label on the suit... I had a custom suit done back in Hk for $450CAD - great quality and fit. You simply cannot get that kind of fit with an altered off the rack suit. The fit makes you feel like a million bucks. Check these guys out, they come to Canada every few months, get your measurements and then sends the suit to you from HK... they do shirts, as well... great quality - like $150 CAD for 3.
http://www.maxwellsclothiers.com/
Looked at their site, the problem is that they are asking for your credit card info, but the transmittion is not encrypted. They also don't list their prices.
pmrules
May 8th, 2007, 03:05 PM
I still like Tom's Place in Toronto.
3 for 1 suits. I got 3 Calvin Klein Suits for $900. Each suit I saw in other stores was approx $500-$800+ or so. For me to get them at $300 each, was a steal.
If your lucky, Tom's often has 4 for 1 sales.
willpoon
May 8th, 2007, 03:08 PM
you're clearly the one that looks like an ass in this forum. :twisted:
imo, I think you're the ass. Stop being a suit bully.
milhouse6
May 8th, 2007, 03:28 PM
Got my gabardine custom 3-fitting suit in Thailand with tie and custom fit silk shirt for about $120CAD last time I was in Thailand. Buy more than one and the $1200 airfare starts to feel really cheap! Next time I'm getting like 5.
TurboTropic
May 8th, 2007, 03:45 PM
In the end, this is red flag deals - not red flag ripoffs.
And yet you still haven't posted a deal...
willpoon
May 8th, 2007, 04:29 PM
but your opinion doesn't count, you little ******
hahahAHAHAHAHAHA
ahhhh hahahahahaha
***.
Talk about being an ass. This guy sends me a pm just to be an even bigger ass.
blizzah
May 8th, 2007, 04:56 PM
In the end, this is red flag deals - not red flag ripoffs. No need to get defensive just because you look like an ass spending hundreds of dollars on a piece of clothing.
$500 a good deal for a custom tailored suit - okay. $500 a good deal for a mass produced suit just because it has a label on it? Me thinks not.
500$ for a custom tailored suit, HA. Slight alterations will be like 50$. Different people have different needs for suits, a CK suit will be good enough if you wear it once in a while and looks good. But if you want a real quality suit that fits a lot better, you need to look at the made in Italy types like Canali.
500$ is what an average suit costs, if you want to wear a polyester suit, good luck with that.
sonick
May 8th, 2007, 05:15 PM
500$ for a custom tailored suit, HA.
www.thickasthievesla.com
$400USD = Fully canvassed, wool Made-To-Measure (MTM) tailored suit, HA.
These suits have better quality materials, constructions, and fit than anything you'll find on this website, at The Bay, at TipTop, even the HugoBoss/Armani stuff at Harry Rosen/Holt Renfrew (Except their Brioni/Corneliani/Zenga stuff)
The fit is phenomenal as well, as shown:
http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1922cr9.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1923lp1.jpg
http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1924gt6.jpg
(Source of pics: http://www.styleforum.net/showpost.php?p=489922&postcount=454)
blizzah
May 8th, 2007, 07:01 PM
www.thickasthievesla.com
$400USD = Fully canvassed, wool Made-To-Measure (MTM) tailored suit, HA.
These suits have better quality materials, constructions, and fit than anything you'll find on this website, at The Bay, at TipTop, even the HugoBoss/Armani stuff at Harry Rosen/Holt Renfrew (Except their Brioni/Corneliani/Zenga stuff)
The fit is phenomenal as well, as shown:
http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1922cr9.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1923lp1.jpg
http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1924gt6.jpg
(Source of pics: http://www.styleforum.net/showpost.php?p=489922&postcount=454)
The site looks nice, and I don't question the quality of the suits, and I'm sure people who buy from them are satisfied, but your post is incorrect.
The wool on those suits is super 120, while Canali, Armani, etc. use super 200+.
Suits take approximately 2-3 weeks to make. The price for any suit model is $475 which includes shipping by USPS within the USA. For international deliveries outside of North America, please add an additional $20 to the total price.
The price of the suit is 495 USD for those slow with math. Customs and the exchange rate must SURELY bing it over 500 CDN. Add the fact that you have to send in your measurements makes it risky. Both Holt and Harry offers tailored service in the 800's, making it not that more than the website.
sonick
May 8th, 2007, 07:07 PM
The wool on those suits is super 120, while Canali, Armani, etc. use super 200+.The super count on wool is merely marketing mumbo jumbo. Quality Super120 will feel better and hold up longer than mediocre Super 200+. Plus, even if they ARE Super200+, the construction method (fused, rather than canvassed) of Armani/Hugo Boss is nowhere near TaT/Zenga/Corneliani/Brioni, etc.
Suits take approximately 2-3 weeks to make. The price for any suit model is $475 which includes shipping by USPS within the USA. For international deliveries outside of North America, please add an additional $20 to the total price.
The price of the suit is 495 USD for those slow with math. Customs and the exchange rate must SURELY bing it over 500 CDN. Add the fact that you have to send in your measurements makes it risky. Both Holt and Harry offers tailored service in the 800's, making it not that more than the website.
Membership at StyleForum.net provides a member's discount at TaT to get a full suit for $400USD. And its free shipping, ANYWHERE (also no brokerages as they are shipped by USPS): http://www.styleforum.net/showpost.php?p=381652&postcount=12
Holt and Harry Rosen provide alterations in the $800's (They don't even have Off-the-rack suits for less than $800, let alone tailored), not made-to-measure (those would start at at least $1.2k).
Even with MTM at Holt/Harry they only take your measurments in-store. They then send the measurments off to the factory where they make the suit and send it back to the store, where you pick it up. The timeframe would likely be the same or even longer because of the time required for communication between the store and the factory and picking it up in-store.
You could just as easily go to a tailor and ask them to measure you up, then send the measurments off to TaT if you're that worried about measurments.
whiteGSR
May 8th, 2007, 07:10 PM
In the end, this is red flag deals - not red flag ripoffs. No need to get defensive just because you look like an ass spending hundreds of dollars on a piece of clothing.
$500 a good deal for a custom tailored suit - okay. $500 a good deal for a mass produced suit just because it has a label on it? Me thinks not.
no offense, but are you overweight?
if you have a bulgeing waistline, then I can perfectly understand why you would be content w/ a $200 suit from Moores
for the rest of us, we actually care about the fit and feel of a suit, and are quite willing to spend $340+...rather easily mind you.
kohlio1979
May 8th, 2007, 07:27 PM
For anyone interested in how the Asian suits work, this is my story. Might help some people (especially if you're going to South East Asia) or it might not. Feel free to disregard.
Went to Hong Kong a few years ago with my buddy who is an investment banker in New York. His co-workers and boss recommended a tailor that they all go to so we went to him. My friend got 4 custom made suits and I got one (i'm NOT an investment banker ;) ). The suits cost between $250-$350 each.
What they do is the following: they have all the fashion magazines and they just tell you to pick whatever style you like and then they copy it stitch for stitch. You have to go to a decent tailor though as there are a lot of crappier ones. Unless you know someone or of someone it's kind of hit or miss.
The best thing about these guys is that once you get a good guy, they keep your measurments on file and all you have to do is send them a picture of something you like and they'll make it and ship it to you. Shirts, suits, pants, whatever. I know that a lot of bankers do this (I even remember reading about NFL players that do it too) or they just get suits when they head over there.
I went to Thailand and Vietnam as well. I did not like the suits and tailors in Thailand but you can get tons of other great stuff for incredible prices (in legitimate stores too). Vietnam was a little better and I had a few items made there. I still found Hong Kong to be better quality. There are some deals for flights in the travel section.
Hope that helped someone :)
wild
May 8th, 2007, 08:10 PM
$340 is a tonne of money for a suit, Dude.
$3,000 is a lot of money for a suit... I have a Zegna in that price range
$340 will buy you something so-so from Moores.
It all depends on how much you wear it and for what purpose though. If it is a one off and you'll likely never wear it again then yes I can see spending $340. If you wear it weekly at least then spend a decent amount of cash
gheart008
May 8th, 2007, 08:44 PM
I agree. I have a few suits I bought at Moore's for $250 each.
I've tried on the more expensive brand name suits and, quite frankly, they feel like crap compared to the Moore's suits.
You are joking right? Not sure what brand you're trying on, but I find Moore's suits cheaply made and they don't feel that comfortable. Moores is only meant to be an affortable suit, not a great one.
wild
May 8th, 2007, 09:40 PM
You are joking right? Not sure what brand you're trying on, but I find Moore's suits cheaply made and they don't feel that comfortable. Moores is only meant to be an affortable suit, not a great one.
He is likely trolling or perhaps he tried on a Hugo Boss suit....
m2m people... not off the rack
deanb2
May 9th, 2007, 09:36 AM
Hong Kong tailors, coming to your town:
http://www.maxwellsclothiers.com/
They travel to hotels around the country, measure you up, ship you the clothes from Hong Kong. Custom made suits, shirts, pants, coats, etc.
The links on the web page only seem to work from the home page, so their web page coding could use some work, but their suits and shirts are very good quality.
qster
May 9th, 2007, 09:57 AM
If you are gonna cheap out and only willing to pay $200 for a suit a Moore's or Tip Top tailors, you might as well cheap out some more and go strait to the factory (sweat shop) where they sew the suits here in the GTA. You can probably get 2-3 suits for about $200-250.
The thing you forget about is... NOT everyone has the same body types.
So buying a suit from Moore may not be right for you if you have wide or broad shoulders. I see so many guys downtown running around with a non fitted off the rack suit and then try to play if off as a designer suit. hahahaha... Anyone who knows anything about suit can tell its a low-end product.
If it's not 100% wool...don't bother buying it.
Think of buying a suit as an investment that you'll be wearing for 5-10 years. Not something for a 1 to 2 years. That is if you have the budget for it.
larman2001
May 9th, 2007, 11:48 AM
if you normally shop at International Clothiers yes
otherwise no
LOL
xarekusu
May 9th, 2007, 12:30 PM
I live 30 seconds from Boutique Jacques it's a high class store -
Very professional
billybee
May 9th, 2007, 12:35 PM
LOL
Don't know why everyone is laughing at International Clothiers. I know someone that got 2 Ralph Lauren Suits for under $400 each and they seemed like good quality and that person still wears them today.:?:
Galad
May 9th, 2007, 12:40 PM
if you normally shop at International Clothiers yes
otherwise no
LOL
BobbyGeneric
May 9th, 2007, 02:05 PM
I have to agree with most people here - $300 is not nearly enough for a respectable suit... I got one at a big name store on sale for $1k OFF the regular price and lots of alterations on top of that and after all was done, there was absolutely no comparison between the two (having previously only owned ~$300 RL or whatever suits from Moores).
sonick
May 9th, 2007, 02:09 PM
Don't know why everyone is laughing at International Clothiers. I know someone that got 2 Ralph Lauren Suits for under $400 each and they seemed like good quality and that person still wears them today.:?:Ralph Lauren suits are not that great. A company just licenses the Ralph Lauren name and slaps it onto a cheap suit. $300 is about expected what you'd pay for one of these suits.
THe real RL stuff is their Purple, Black label stuff.
CoffeeAddict
May 9th, 2007, 02:32 PM
Ralph Lauren suits are not that great. A company just licenses the Ralph Lauren name and slaps it onto a cheap suit. $300 is about expected what you'd pay for one of these suits.
THe real RL stuff is their Purple, Black label stuff.
This is fact. From someone who used to work for them
milhouse6
May 11th, 2007, 12:38 AM
Ralph Lauren suits are not that great. A company just licenses the Ralph Lauren name and slaps it onto a cheap suit. $300 is about expected what you'd pay for one of these suits.
THe real RL stuff is their Purple, Black label stuff.
Hot damn, purple suits!
sonick
May 11th, 2007, 01:01 AM
Hot damn, purple suits!
Far from it: http://www.polo.com/shop/index.jsp?categoryId=1795706
Hugh
May 12th, 2007, 11:52 PM
This thread was useful to me. I don't wear suits often but it was time to get a new one (not for business). This thread helped orient me before the whirlwind search.
We looked in the stores in Bayview Village and in Yorkdale. I ended up buying from Tom's Place in Kensington Market. Their price was the best ($225 + tax) but the fit was the best too. 100% wool. Before I got to Tom's I was expecting to pay $600ish (the Bay for Jones of New York, I think) to $1000 (Harry Rosen or Barbutti's for Hugo Boss).
All the sales people we encountered were very helpful and polite.
After buying the suit, we bought cheese at Global (an amazing shop a few metres away from Tom's) and had dinner at King's Noodles (west side of Spadina north of Dundas). So maybe the suit no longer fits.
goffeebeans
May 13th, 2007, 12:47 AM
Fit is always #1. Many people don't fit well into off the rack suits thats why they go to made to measure or bespoke. Construction and quality mean nothing if it doesn't fit you. Look for a suit that fits well, then determine if you're getting good value for the price.
Also for the Super #s on the suits, as mentioned most of it is just marketing hype, a higher count doesn't necessarily mean higher quality. Theres many other factors that determine the quality of the wool. Sort of like if you compare 100% cashmere sweaters from the gap and 100% cashmere sweaters that you might find at holts or wherever.
Anyways assuming quality is the same, you'd probably want a super 100-120 for a WORKHORSE suit because of its durability. a Super 180+ is finer and softer than the super 100-120s and as a result will also wear down faster.
consumerPI
May 13th, 2007, 03:36 AM
Since when did Int'l Clothiers start selling Ralph Lauren Suits?
Don't know why everyone is laughing at International Clothiers. I know someone that got 2 Ralph Lauren Suits for under $400 each and they seemed like good quality and that person still wears them today.:?:
consumerPI
May 13th, 2007, 03:37 AM
LOL - Agreed.
And add the store Pinstripe to that.
burn of the forest fire proportion.
bluedcfive
May 13th, 2007, 11:55 AM
In the end, this is red flag deals - not red flag ripoffs. No need to get defensive just because you look like an ass spending hundreds of dollars on a piece of clothing.
you are the one who looks like ass in your POS suit!
For those looking to get into a new suit, with a reasonable price, here is a good list of styles for this spring:
http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_5587
How to buy a suit: http://men.style.com/gq/fashion/landing?id=content_4800
flashy_mcflash
May 16th, 2007, 01:32 PM
LOL @ this thread.
If you're buying your crappy-looking suits at Moore's, you will have to replace them yearly. I can't believe that a serious person would compare the quality of those suits to the higher end brands.
Suits are, for the most part, a 'you get exactly what you pay for' item.
big_willy
May 16th, 2007, 05:51 PM
CK, RL do not make quality suits.
For quality suits look at Canali, Armani, Mani, Tilford, and some Hugo Boss.
For top quality must go custom tailored.
To judge the quality of a suit focus on the material and cutting (especially the shoulder area - this area is the hardest to get "perfect" and lower quality suits will have small wrinkles/crinkles. The quality suits will be perfect.)
Also expect to pay over $1000 for a quality suit - and that's a deal. Anything under that is just junk - Moores, Tip Top all sell junk. For off the rack get fitted at Harry Rosen - they have the best selection of off the rack quality.
kyfe
May 16th, 2007, 06:22 PM
I agree with alot of the comments made, you cannot beat the feel and quality of a good suit. I'm going boss for my wedding in sept and it's $1000, it is still fused (glued) but still a great quality suit, I also looked at paul smith, zenga and canalli but they wrre a little to old man for my likes.
If you can afford custom tailored then go that way, there's a company from hong kong that comes to CDA a few times/year, they make custom tailored and the price is reasonable. It's been posted on here a few times. For those on the cheap it's the best deal you'll find on a CT suit, if i can recall around $600.
Tip Top and Moores are for the avg joe, if you're going to 1 wedding/yr you'd be alright with this suit otherwise spend some cash and spoil yourself. my dad buys his suits there but he is a blue collar guy so for him it makes sense.
like anything else, it's an investment in yourself
goffeebeans
May 16th, 2007, 07:09 PM
CK, RL do not make quality suits.
For quality suits look at Canali, Armani, Mani, Tilford, and some Hugo Boss.
For top quality must go custom tailored.
To judge the quality of a suit focus on the material and cutting (especially the shoulder area - this area is the hardest to get "perfect" and lower quality suits will have small wrinkles/crinkles. The quality suits will be perfect.)
Also expect to pay over $1000 for a quality suit - and that's a deal. Anything under that is just junk - Moores, Tip Top all sell junk. For off the rack get fitted at Harry Rosen - they have the best selection of off the rack quality.
I agree with quality of the suit and material, but not the stuff about the shoulder. Every brand has a different cut to their jackets. Just cause one's brands cut doesn't fit you doesn't say anything about the quality of the suit. Most suits right off the rack will never be perfect, unless you happen to be a perfect match to the model that was used in designing the suit.
Custom suits will ideally fit you better. Though theres two types of custom. Made to measure and Bespoke. With MTM you're still likely to run into some fit issues, whereas bespoke suits should ideally fit u perfectly. Taking into account any posture problems, slopping/dropped shoulders and what not.
With the high prices in Canada around $1000 retail seems reasonable. In the states, you can probably get away with half of that for something comparable. Its all about finding deals.
If you're comfortable with buying online, you can find things on the internet at a fraction of the cost of retail in Canada.
nice
May 16th, 2007, 09:25 PM
I may go to HK next month. I am really interested in get a suit from there after reading this thread. Does anyone have any recommendation about place to go for a suit?
Feel free to PM me.
Thanks,
mpolo
May 17th, 2007, 09:54 AM
I may go to HK next month. I am really interested in get a suit from there after reading this thread. Does anyone have any recommendation about place to go for a suit?
Feel free to PM me.
Thanks,
A bit off topic but In Vietnam I went to a town called Hoi An, there are literally hundreds of tailors for a city of around 10,000 people. You can get a multiple sitting custom tailored suit there in the 100-200 dollar range (this was 7 years ago).
if you're looking to rebuild a wardrobe, you'd probably save the cost of the flight to go there are stock up.
ranny3
May 17th, 2007, 10:11 AM
what about suits at Zara? they have fully canvased suits (not glued) with functioning cuff button on the sleves for 399... how's the quality, any good?
sonick
May 17th, 2007, 01:10 PM
what about suits at Zara? they have fully canvased suits (not glued) with functioning cuff button on the sleves for 399... how's the quality, any good?For the price, the mere fact its canvassed makes it a decent deal, regardless of the quality as full canvassing inherently produces a more comfortable, more breathable, better-fitting/draping, more durable garment.
sonick
May 17th, 2007, 01:11 PM
I may go to HK next month. I am really interested in get a suit from there after reading this thread. Does anyone have any recommendation about place to go for a suit?
Feel free to PM me.
Thanks,I've heard of W.W. Chan and Jantzen Tailor; both have quite the following on StyleForum in mail-order MTM's.
http://www.wwchan.com/
http://www.jantzentailor.com/
sonick
May 17th, 2007, 01:32 PM
PS, good article regarding the "Super" count on wool suits:
http://www.american.com/archive/2007/may-june-magazine-contents/the-controversy-over-super-wool
Are the Supers really that great? Is the width of fibers the most important thing one needs to know about wool? The weavers of Yorkshire and the cloth merchants of London don’t think so. Talking to them, one hears over and over the contemptuous phrase “numbers game” used to belittle the Supers phenomenon.
Mariano Rubinacci is heir to one of the two most famous names in Italian tailoring (the other is Caraceni) and runs a legendary bespoke sartoria, or empo*rium for custom-made clothing, in Naples, Italy’s most renowned tailoring town. When asked about the Supers, Rubinacci’s response is, “It’s bull—” (then he completes the thought). “All marketing,” he says, “though they can be nice against the skin.”
Successful marketing has convinced too many men that the Super number is a measure not only of great wool but also of great tailoring. Both of these conclusions are untrue. In addition, the Supers fixation may have served to under*mine the very industry it was hyped to support. There are signs—small signs—that the clothing industry may be waking up to the danger posed by the Super monster it has created. But other signs suggest it may be too late.
According to beliefs and posts of SOME members here, seems like it IS too late.
kohlio1979
May 17th, 2007, 02:26 PM
http://www.jantzentailor.com/
jantzen! that's the tailor i went to! thanks! great suits... my friend is still wearing his, i've shrunk a little since then so mine is gone
z_squared
May 17th, 2007, 02:43 PM
this thread is very useful, but it is also ridiculous in some instances..
we obviously have two (or more) very different groups of suit-wearing members posting here.
some people just want a suit to wear to the 9-5 so that they're dressed professionally.. they can't imagine why anyone would spend thousands of dollars on a suit...
others are dressing to impress.. they can't understand why someone would spend any amount of money on a suit that won't stand the tests of time or fashion..
this much is obvious.. what isn't clear is why people are flaming one another just because they don't .. i didn't know that buying suits incited so much passion, let alone, listening to other people talking about what suit they're going to buy.. you can express your own view-point, but no need to call someone "ignorant" or an "a*s"
anyways, sounds like East Asia is the happy compromise.. potential to get a custom-tailored high-quality suit that fits perfectly for much less..
rain111
May 17th, 2007, 03:39 PM
this thread is excellent! nice info for the upcoming wedding season.
akt921
May 17th, 2007, 04:21 PM
this thread is very useful, but it is also ridiculous in some instances..
we obviously have two (or more) very different groups of suit-wearing members posting here.
some people just want a suit to wear to the 9-5 so that they're dressed professionally.. they can't imagine why anyone would spend thousands of dollars on a suit...
others are dressing to impress.. they can't understand why someone would spend any amount of money on a suit that won't stand the tests of time or fashion..
this much is obvious.. what isn't clear is why people are flaming one another just because they don't .. i didn't know that buying suits incited so much passion, let alone, listening to other people talking about what suit they're going to buy.. you can express your own view-point, but no need to call someone "ignorant" or an "a*s"
anyways, sounds like East Asia is the happy compromise.. potential to get a custom-tailored high-quality suit that fits perfectly for much less..
Best post in this thread.
kohlio1979
May 17th, 2007, 05:47 PM
i agree... i'm glad i stayed out of the stupid fights and comments... i got a nice suit in hong kong and just wanted to share that info with people... can't we all just get along :lol:
by the way, in response to an earlier post, i was in Hoi An (the little town in Vietnam) as well as Hong Kong... i found the tailoring in HK to be MUCH better although it was more expensive... if you're going to vietnam you can get a lot of cool stuff made there but the suits in Hong Kong are of much better quality
another comment about Vietnam... i thought it was really cool that they could make whatever i wanted and have it look however i wanted... i had a guy make me a custom pair of "puma speedcats" without laces... everyone thought they were really cool shoes and kept asking me where i got them because they had never seen them before...
so to sum up, suits in hong kong, other stuff in vietnam... you won't be disapointed
Robkoh
Jun 4th, 2007, 10:01 AM
I just picked up a Kenneth Cole suit fro $295 at Bleu En Ville in Ottawa. Reg price on the suit was $795.
They are closing down and having a liquidation sale. There was an Ad in Saturday's Citizen.
all suits have been marked down to $295.
The store is on Clarence St. in the Byward Market.
:)
Bunyak
Jun 10th, 2007, 06:50 PM
I just picked up a Kenneth Cole suit fro $295 at Bleu En Ville in Ottawa. Reg price on the suit was $795.
They are closing down and having a liquidation sale. There was an Ad in Saturday's Citizen.
all suits have been marked down to $295.
The store is on Clarence St. in the Byward Market.
:)This store also has some Bosco Uomo suits in my size at that price. I googled Bosco Uomo and they appear to be based in Montreal. I couldn't find other information (styles, prices) about them on the Net.
Is anyone familiar with Bosco Uomo's products? Would one of their suits be a deal at $295? Thanks! :)
Bling Bling Canada
Nov 20th, 2007, 03:48 PM
Most cheap priced suits are made in China and imported to Canada. Even the Bay has it's limitations. Harry rosen has nice stuff but expensive.
NoFixedAddress
Feb 18th, 2009, 11:17 AM
A friend of mine is looking for a good priced suit
Searching in the London, Ontario area
but is willing to go out as far as Burlington
Even perhaps Toronto
I know this post was from a while back
But would love to hear UPDATES:)
Thanks