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ecgz88
Apr 14th, 2007, 11:38 PM
I'm in Vancouver, In BC/AB All the Toyota sell at MSRP since they have "Access Toyota" Policy. They would just give you some small gift

I'm impressed by how they control the price, :confused: I know in Toronto you can easy get $1500 off MSRP for Toyota.

TrevorK
Apr 15th, 2007, 02:16 PM
I'm in Vancouver, In BC/AB All the Toyota sell at MSRP since they have "Access Toyota" Policy. They would just give you some small gift

I'm impressed by how they control the price, :confused: I know in Toronto you can easy get $1500 off MSRP for Toyota.


I'm in Edmonton and a friend was able to get a Lexus below MSRP (I think it was only $500-$1000) so I would assume Toyota is possible as well?

afong56
Apr 15th, 2007, 02:28 PM
so invoice cost pricing quotes won't help?

that's so lame. sorry to hear that. i'd contact apa.ca to find out if this is true or not. they'd know if their clients in b.c. were able to get below msrp, i think.

frankly, there's no toyota product so unique and so much better than other options that i'd make myself pay msrp. i'd walk out of a toyota dealer and come back with a honda or mazda and tell them that it was their idiotic pricing policy that cost them a sale. maybe they'll smarten up.

VivienM
Apr 15th, 2007, 03:05 PM
I'm in Vancouver, In BC/AB All the Toyota sell at MSRP since they have "Access Toyota" Policy. They would just give you some small gift

"Access Toyota" is not binding. Toyota cannot legally require that the dealers sell at the Access Toyota price...

Toyota got slapped around hard by the Competition Bureau on that one.

ecgz88
Apr 15th, 2007, 08:59 PM
so invoice cost pricing quotes won't help?

that's so lame. sorry to hear that. i'd contact apa.ca to find out if this is true or not. they'd know if their clients in b.c. were able to get below msrp, i think.

frankly, there's no toyota product so unique and so much better than other options that i'd make myself pay msrp. i'd walk out of a toyota dealer and come back with a honda or mazda and tell them that it was their idiotic pricing policy that cost them a sale. maybe they'll smarten up.

I contact APA, they told me just get small discount, not worth to get APA Membership:lol:

BC Toyota dealer must make very good profit since dealer in ON will offer $500 over invoice.

I believe Lexus is negiotable, but who knows?

Taiphun
Apr 15th, 2007, 10:56 PM
Access only got slapped around out east.. here in Alberta we still had to abide by their Access Toyota pricing.

Though when I bought my car, I had the salesman give me free rubber floor mats, free mud guards, free trunk liner, etc... sure they can't give you a deal on the car price, but think of all the freebies you get to pick from their accessories catalog.

Lexus is negotiable.. my cousin is the region chief for Toyota trucks and SUV's, their pricing structure differs from Toyotas.

crimsona
Apr 15th, 2007, 10:58 PM
Not sure how Toyota managed to keep Access Toyota in BC, but it's definitely there. Try to haggle, they'll just show you the door.

Maxspeed
Apr 15th, 2007, 11:36 PM
I got my camry 07 LE approx 800 under the invoice.

VivienM
Apr 15th, 2007, 11:46 PM
Access only got slapped around out east.. here in Alberta we still had to abide by their Access Toyota pricing.

Though when I bought my car, I had the salesman give me free rubber floor mats, free mud guards, free trunk liner, etc... sure they can't give you a deal on the car price, but think of all the freebies you get to pick from their accessories catalog.

http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/internet/index.cfm?itemid=300&lg=e

I don't see why East vs West should matter, given that this is a federal law and administrative agency. Maybe Toyota just figures they can get away with it if they're several thousand kilometers away from the Competition Bureau.

If the salesperson tells you "Toyota won't let us sell below the Access Toyota price", then you should give the Competition Bureau a call.

VivienM
Apr 15th, 2007, 11:47 PM
Try to haggle, they'll just show you the door.

Ahhh, the sense of entitlement that comes with being a seller of top-ranked overhyped Japanese automobiles... *sigh*

DavidY
Apr 16th, 2007, 01:16 AM
In the US, Toyota is having a hard time selling the new Tundras....so much so that they are/were offering a $1500 rebate....just a month after the vehicle was released.

Dave

sunnybono
Apr 16th, 2007, 01:40 PM
I'm in Vancouver, In BC/AB All the Toyota sell at MSRP since they have "Access Toyota" Policy. They would just give you some small gift

I'm impressed by how they control the price, :confused: I know in Toronto you can easy get $1500 off MSRP for Toyota.

I usually get about $200 over cost as my best friend is the General Sales Manager of a Large Toyota Dealership!! What's the competition like in BC/AB for Toyota Dealerships???

sk

ecgz88
Apr 16th, 2007, 07:02 PM
I usually get about $200 over cost as my best friend is the General Sales Manager of a Large Toyota Dealership!! What's the competition like in BC/AB for Toyota Dealerships???

sk

It maybe worth for me to transport one from East then:)

BC have 20-30 Toyota dealership, I really been impressed how they can keep price and avoid price war..............:confused:

Smoove
Apr 16th, 2007, 10:48 PM
I got my camry 07 LE approx 800 under the invoice.

800 under invoice???? :eek: or do you mean $800 under MSRP?? cause those are two completely different numbers.

If you can get a Camry LE for $29k (all in) here in Ontario then that is considered a good deal...

belfour
Apr 16th, 2007, 10:58 PM
In the US, Toyota is having a hard time selling the new Tundras....so much so that they are/were offering a $1500 rebate....just a month after the vehicle was released.

Dave

Somewhat True... hard time selling the base Tundras but not the top model.

http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070416/FREE/70416001/1528

Toyota is selling more CrewMax units than it can supply. Demand for the top-dog 5.7-liter V-8 also is outstripping supply. And Toyota is cutting production of standard-cab models because it is selling fewer than expected.

But a lot has gone right since the Tundra's launch in February. The company sold 13,196 Tundras in March, 12 percent above sales of the old Tundra in March 2006. Based on availability and inventories, Toyota says that it's on the right track, and that the Tundra will be selling at its planned 200,000 annual pace by summer.

ecgz88
Apr 17th, 2007, 01:20 AM
800 under invoice???? :eek: or do you mean $800 under MSRP?? cause those are two completely different numbers.

If you can get a Camry LE for $29k (all in) here in Ontario then that is considered a good deal...


In ON my friend said people will call every Toronto dealer for $50 morde discount:lol:

When BC can like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maxspeed
Apr 17th, 2007, 08:26 AM
800 under invoice???? :eek: or do you mean $800 under MSRP?? cause those are two completely different numbers.

If you can get a Camry LE for $29k (all in) here in Ontario then that is considered a good deal...

As I said I got it for 800 under the invoice price. Thanks....

jzemel
Apr 17th, 2007, 08:57 AM
Does anyone know the invoice price for a Toyota Collora 2007 CE with the SE package? Thanks.

BartBandy
Apr 17th, 2007, 09:02 AM
As I said I got it for 800 under the invoice price. Thanks....

Great, thanks for all the extra info.

Maxspeed
Apr 17th, 2007, 09:37 AM
what info are you looking for?

rv2843
Apr 17th, 2007, 11:43 AM
As I said I got it for 800 under the invoice price. Thanks....

How did you do that? I don't think Toyota employees wouldn't be able to achieve that. You or your family owns a dealership :lol:

BartBandy
Apr 17th, 2007, 11:59 AM
what info are you looking for?

I got an Acura for under invoice as well, but that was due to not only the negotiation, but a $2500 manufacturer rebate and a $650 (pre-tax) grad rebate.

Heck, I was under invoice even after gas tax, a/c tax and freight+PDI were added.

These are the bits of information we're missing. Nobody walks into a Toyota dealer and gets a new Camry for under invoice without something going on that they aren't telling us about.

ecgz88
Apr 17th, 2007, 02:21 PM
How did you do that? I don't think Toyota employees wouldn't be able to achieve that. You or your family owns a dealership :lol:

Unless have some Manufacturer to dealer rebate, and it's last year model:razz:

Maxspeed
Apr 17th, 2007, 04:28 PM
you cant walk into the dealership and expect to get those prices, you have to eliminate the middle man and deal with the manager...

ecgz88
Apr 20th, 2007, 03:37 PM
In BC, the salesman will tell you that he will give you $200 out of pocket from his commission.:lol: that's it.

Morphius909
Apr 20th, 2007, 03:41 PM
If purchasing in Edmonton, try Sun Toyota on Whyte Ave. We've purchased a Camry and 4runner the past couple of years, and have negotiated great prices. My wife and I plan on purchasing another 4runner this summer. I already emailed the manager and asked, and he said he would give me the best deal in town, so I assume they still negotiate.

The other two Toyota dealers in town didn't budge on prices when we bought the camry and 4runner, citing "Access" pricing.

Just a thought...

Narci
Apr 20th, 2007, 04:39 PM
Hmmm..makes me think now. Can you buy your car in TO but pick it up in Vancouver?

viper123
Apr 21st, 2007, 12:21 AM
I got my camry 07 LE approx 800 under the invoice.

I find this hard to believe, I don't think any dealer will sell under Invoice.

Well when I bought my 2007 Camry LE, I negotiaged 1900 under MSRP.

ecgz88
Apr 22nd, 2007, 06:08 PM
Hmmm..makes me think now. Can you buy your car in TO but pick it up in Vancouver?


Assume $1000 for delivery, still worth it if you can get Camry LE $1900 off

Maxspeed
Apr 22nd, 2007, 06:24 PM
if you go thru the fleet manager you can get a better price.....

It was my second toyota in 1 year as well....

send an offer of 24,200 for the base LE model to all the managers close to the end of the month....see what counter offer you get. But you have to be dead serious about buying the car..... its not like u can test drive the car at that point... You know want that car and then you make offers to dealerships...

ecgz88
Apr 23rd, 2007, 11:10 PM
so western dealer make huge money here

if you go thru the fleet manager you can get a better price.....

It was my second toyota in 1 year as well....

send an offer of 24,200 for the base LE model to all the managers close to the end of the month....see what counter offer you get. But you have to be dead serious about buying the car..... its not like u can test drive the car at that point... You know want that car and then you make offers to dealerships...

viper123
Apr 23rd, 2007, 11:49 PM
if you go thru the fleet manager you can get a better price.....



That is how I got my price. A friend of a friend knew a fleet manager at one of the dealers. He offered me $1700 off MSRP, take it or leave it price. A saleman at another dealership offered to beat that price.

krazy
Apr 24th, 2007, 12:21 AM
I got quotes from 5 Toyota dealership (apart from the one I wished to buy from)... then finally went to the one nearest my place and made them an offer for Matrix '07...

Should have looked at that salesman's face... he was trying his best to meet the price... finally they got pretty close... it was around $900 below the MSRP

Another point is how fast are u willing to close the deal...
When the manager came to meet me, I told her, "how many customer makes a decision to buy a car in an hour"... that made a big difference...

ecgz88
Apr 25th, 2007, 11:43 PM
For Matrix few years old model still sell $900 off MSRP, Toyota is overpriced.:)