Hydraulic Jack & Air Compressor Kit for $34.99

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Hydraulic Jack & Air Compressor Kit

Sale: $34.99
Reg: $69.99

Product #09-1051-4

2½-ton heavy-duty hydraulic floor jack with carry handle and swivel casters
250-psi mini air compressor with pressure gauge
Foldable wheel chocks
Lug wrench adapter with sizes: 11/16, 3/4, 13/16 and 7/8"
Durable, easy-to-carry plastic case



2.5 ton should enough for regular car...

Good deal or not? Too bad only 1 year warranty...



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[CC2]

I'm going to assume thats from Canadian Tire?

[virgoan]

I have the jack.. For the price.. I say it's alright.. You cant really expect much from it.. I think the regular price for the jack is $25.. which is about how much I paid for mine..

[beerbaron105]

the jack is okay, but if u really want to lift your vehicle this one isnt gonna cut it, and it sucks in the cold.

[sLAsh]

I have the pump. I think I paid around $7 for it on sale. I think if you get a year out of the pump you are doing good. I got mine last summer, used it for air matresses and bike tires and it already sounds like it got 10 more parts than it started with :cheesygri

[bizzyseller]

the jack is okay, but if u really want to lift your vehicle this one isnt gonna cut it, and it sucks in the cold.

If you want to lift your econobox, or sedan... this will do it. I don't see why you need anything larger.

[AlexV]

Could the air compressor be used to blow dust out of computers? As a replacement for that canned-air that you buy in computer stores for around $10?

[Praetorian]

the jack is okay, but if u really want to lift your vehicle this one isnt gonna cut it, and it sucks in the cold.

what kind of car are you driving? this thing will jack 5000 lbs...most cars aren't even close to 5000 lbs.

[Ironballz]

Could the air compressor be used to blow dust out of computers? As a replacement for that canned-air that you buy in computer stores for around $10?

no

[SeanQC]

what kind of car are you driving? this thing will jack 5000 lbs...most cars aren't even close to 5000 lbs.

Its not about how much the jack can lift, its about how high it can lift it.

I bought one of these small jacks at wal mart once, tried to lift my intrepid, couldn't even come close, brought it back right away. the jack I've got now lifts the car and my pathfinder too.

a good jack will last you a long time for only an extra $50-$75, stay away from these cheap ones...

[beerbaron105]

Its not about how much the jack can lift, its about how high it can lift it.

I bought one of these small jacks at wal mart once, tried to lift my intrepid, couldn't even come close, brought it back right away. the jack I've got now lift the car at my pathfinder too.

a good jack will last you a long time for only an extra $50-$75, stay away from these cheap ones...

exactly, how high, its good enough, but if u have to do serious work under the car it isnt going to lift it high enough

[Wrocky]

Could the air compressor be used to blow dust out of computers? As a replacement for that canned-air that you buy in computer stores for around $10?

No, you really need something that has a tank/air resovoir on it. Either a can or a full size compressor. This thing moves a little bit of air at a time, and needs to operate a long time to move any significant amount of air. Not meant for bursts.

[SeanQC]

exactly, how high, its good enough, but if u have to do serious work under the car it isnt going to lift it high enough


and if you need to do serious work under the car, NEVER only use a hydraulic jack.

Jack it up, then put two jack stands under and you'll be safe.

[Praetorian]

Its not about how much the jack can lift, its about how high it can lift it.

I bought one of these small jacks at wal mart once, tried to lift my intrepid, couldn't even come close, brought it back right away. the jack I've got now lifts the car and my pathfinder too.

a good jack will last you a long time for only an extra $50-$75, stay away from these cheap ones...

if i just wanted to change summer <-> winter tires, would i need something that lifts really high?

[Alexo]

if i just wanted to change summer <-> winter tires, would i need something that lifts really high?
I changed the wheels on both the car and the minivan a week before the snow hit... :mad:

This jack was good enough for a Sienna.
The compressor managed to inflate the tires, but:
1) The gauge is worse than useless
2) It was S--L--O--W

[SeanQC]

if i just wanted to change summer <-> winter tires, would i need something that lifts really high?

depends on your car, you can always try with this one and bring it back, it'll work alot better then the emergency jack that came with the car, so if you just need to raise the car just enough to get the wheel off, you can' go wrong giving it a try.

[beerbaron105]

and if you need to do serious work under the car, NEVER only use a hydraulic jack.

Jack it up, then put two jack stands under and you'll be safe.

lol, of course, common sense

[furfaro]

if i just wanted to change summer <-> winter tires, would i need something that lifts really high?

You basically only need to life the car enough so there is space between the ground and the tire, so you can slide the tire off. This jack will be able to do that.

As for the air compressor, if all you need is to occasionally top off the air pressure in your tire, you should be good, but I recommend getting one of those 10$ digital air pressure guage that they sell at canadian tire to accuratly read the pressure

[lh0628]

The idea of crawling under the car always creeps me out...

How safe is it to support the car with 2 jack stands? How about 4? Is this the safest way to work under your car?

[ES_Revenge]

and if you need to do serious work under the car, NEVER only use a hydraulic jack.

Jack it up, then put two jack stands under and you'll be safe.
This is incorrect. "Serious work" or not, doesn't matter.

If you ever need to put any part of your body underneath the car at all (while it is raised off the ground), always use jackstands. Never get under a car supported by only a jack period. For those that need "proof" there's lots of tragic/horror stories on the internet of people being badly injured or dying due to improperly supporting a car and then getting underneath. A lot of times the unfortunate victims thought "oh I'll only be under for a minute, I won't bother with jackstands"; or they use cinderblocks (another no-no) and have them crumble on them under the car's weight.

As for the jack, it's pretty cheapy and you do get what you pay for. It'll be better than your car's own scissor jack, yes, but that's about it. As another note you should use the scissor jack that comes with the vehicle as little as possible as you want it to be functional/in good condition if you should ever need it to work in an emergency.

Don't expect the $25 hydraulic jack to last all that long if you jack up your car more than a couple times a year, either.

I have a jack that's a similar light duty jack, it's better than this one by a bit but probably not that much. It lasted a few years and it still works okay but it's getting a little flakey now. Personally I would spend a good bit more money on a jack but that's because I use a jack relatively frequently and on some friends' cars as well.

[ES_Revenge]

The idea of crawling under the car always creeps me out...

How safe is it to support the car with 2 jack stands? How about 4? Is this the safest way to work under your car?

2 jackstands used on the same axle or supporting the same "end" of the car is perfectly fine. Provided the weight supported is within the allowable range for the stands (almost always is), and that the stands are in good condition, [i]and[i] that the stands are positioned properly, and that the support points used on the vehicle are also in good condition and not overly rusted or have other defects. Another thing that might be overlooked is the condition of the ground/surface you're supporting the car on (i.e. lot, garage, driveway, etc.). Is that a stable surface? Or can it possibly sink, cave in, or shift?

Don't try to support two axles (or both ends of the car) with two jackstands, one on each--not a good idea. Also don't try to use 3 to support an entire car either. There's a reason they are typically sold in pairs! In some situations where you need only one corner raised one can be enough. Otherwise two are required to support an entire axle/end and four are required for the entire car. 4 jackstands is usually unnecessary though, as that would require raising the entire vehicle off the ground and that usually isn't needed for most services you'd need to perform on most vehicles.

Another thing, when only one axle or point of the vehicle is raised the other or opposite wheels should be chocked so they can't turn. And don't be afraid to try to push/rock the car once you have it supported to see if it moves anywhere--it shouldn't. The worst that can happen there is the car falls of a stand or something. On the other hand if it isn't stable and you don't test that out and you just get under, if it falls on you that's a lot worse than having the car fall on it's own!

As a final note if "the idea of crawling under a car creeps you out" then you may want to not get under a car and leave it to someone else, lol. Properly supported you'll be safe under the vehicle, but if you aren't sure or aren't comfortable then it's probably a better idea to refrain from getting under it.

[ES_Revenge]

what kind of car are you driving? this thing will jack 5000 lbs...most cars aren't even close to 5000 lbs.
I hate to say it but people that say this kind of stuff usually haven't used many jacks or similar devices in real life. The rating on the jack doesn't mean that much in the real world. Yes the jack can lift what it says... When it's brand new, in perfect condition and in perfect conditions.

Light duty jacks can fail in short order regardless of whether you're lifting 2000lbs and the jack is rated for 5000lbs.

Most of the Motomaster jacks have changed now so I don't know about their quality levels today. But back in the day you used to see a noticeable change after the "2 and 1/4 ton" jacks and moving up to the "2 and 1/2 ton" jacks. The 2.25 jacks were really light duty and cheaply made. The 2.5 ton jacks were not exactly pro-duty jacks but they were made far better and would last longer and lift more reliably. And the price difference was marked as well--the 2.5 ton stuff was usually 2x the price. All that from a relatively small looking .25 ton increase in capability.

Today almost all the jacks are rather craptastic Made in China type stuff so that probably doesn't hold. But "you get what you pay for" certainly does hold. The point is just looking at the simple lift capacity of a jack doesn't tell the whole story.

Someone else mentioned lift height, and there's other factors to consider as well. How much effort/how many strokes/how long will it take me to lift the car off the ground? How reliable is this thing? Is it likely to fail in short order with my useage? Might it vent fluid and slam my car to the ground suddenly?(Can happen with any hyraulic jack but poorly made/cheap is poorly made/cheap no matter which way you look at it.) How well is this going to work on the car(s) I need to lift? Will it reach the appropriate lift points without requiring awkward positions or excessive thought or lifting other parts of the vehicle first? Could I be better off spending a more and getting something that will cause me less headaches or is this appropriate for me? Etc.

All these jacks can raise cars, sure, but that doesn't mean it will work well depending on your needs and useage. Just saying "it lifts 5000lb and my car is less than that" is not really the way to go about it.

[lh0628]

So when do jackstands fail? If I jack the car up, put a pair jackstands under it, and if it holds for, say 30 seconds. Would I then be safe to assume that the jackstands are in good working condition and it won't collapse?

[SeanQC]

So when do jackstands fail? If I jack the car up, put a pair jackstands under it, and if it holds for, say 30 seconds. Would I then be safe to assume that the jackstands are in good working condition and it won't collapse?

I always rock the car a little before going under just to make sure...

remember to put blocks behind the wheels still on the ground and put the parking brake on or make sure car is in park depending on which wheels your raising and if your car is front or rear wheel drive...

[ES_Revenge]

So when do jackstands fail? If I jack the car up, put a pair jackstands under it, and if it holds for, say 30 seconds. Would I then be safe to assume that the jackstands are in good working condition and it won't collapse?

Good question. Axle stands are typically inspected visually. Provided the mecanism is working properly (there isn't much to it) and there is no excessive rust, chips, cracks, or other imperfections (e.g. bent or distorted/warped metal), and all the "teeth" are fine then it pretty much safe to use. If it's in good visual condition it should hold fine. If there is a reasonable doubt as to it's condition it's probably better to toss it and get a new one(s). Though I personally haven't encountered any like that I don't think--they usually last a long time unless you leave them in salt water and vinegar or something, LOL.

If a stand is loaded incorrectly, it may bend however. The weight has to be such that it is acting straight downwards on the stand and the ground/surface should be flat to ensure this. Put the stand on the ground before hand. Is it level? Does it rock at all? (Some small amount of rocking is usually acceptable, but if it's grossly unlevelled don't load it like that.) If it isn't level it will probably get loaded incorrectly putting sideways force on the legs which may cause them to bend or give way (again the rated load capacity is for a centred load acting directly downwards on the support, if it is loaded differently that rating does not necessarily apply). So that's soemthing else to look out for. This part might sound complicated but in reality it's just plain common sense and takes all of 1 second to verify when you place the stand. It's not hard to tell if something is level or not.

A hydraulic jack on the other hand, is another story. The fluid in the jack may "spill" or vent suddenly and without warning, or the seals may fail, with little or no visual clues that could have been seen before hand. It's still a good idea to inspect the jack--stuff like cotter pins, solid metal parts, the cylinder and valves for anything abnormal but there's not much to tell you that the hydraulics might fail on this particular use.

Same for a scissor jack--it may look fine but just give way suddenly for no apparent reason, crashing to the ground. And I've seen this happen more than once with those el cheapo things! Fortunately the times I've seen it, it was quite hillarious and neither people or vehicles were injured but it really highlights how unsafe those things are when you see it happen. If you ever need to change a tyre with one of these at least be cautious and don't put any part of your body in a position where it could possibly be crushed. Even on the first use a scissor jack can collapse!

And there's always something to be said for redundancy if you want to be extra safe... For example using additional jackstands (probably overkill really) or just using the jack and jackstand on the side of the car you'll be closest to--resting the weight on the stand but having the jack positioned right up at the lifting point. In some bizzare circumstance should the stand fail, the jack will still be there giving you time to get out from underneath. It's highly unlikely the stand will fail but it might give some people some additional peice of mind knowing they have a "backup".

[lh0628]

Thanks for the anwsers!

So with an axle jack stand, if it's in good visual apperance, the tooth that's baring the weight wouldn't just suddenly break off? Not likely?

[FD3S]

Good question. Axle stands are typically inspected visually. Provided the mecanism is working properly (there isn't much to it) and there is no excessive rust, chips, cracks, or other imperfections (e.g. bent or distorted/warped metal), and all the "teeth" are fine then it pretty much safe to use. If it's in good visual condition it should hold fine. If there is a reasonable doubt as to it's condition it's probably better to toss it and get a new one(s). Though I personally haven't encountered any like that I don't think--they usually last a long time unless you leave them in salt water and vinegar or something, LOL.

If a stand is loaded incorrectly, it may bend however. The weight has to be such that it is acting straight downwards on the stand and the ground/surface should be flat to ensure this. Put the stand on the ground before hand. Is it level? Does it rock at all? (Some small amount of rocking is usually acceptable, but if it's grossly unlevelled don't load it like that.) If it isn't level it will probably get loaded incorrectly putting sideways force on the legs which may cause them to bend or give way (again the rated load capacity is for a centred load acting directly downwards on the support, if it is loaded differently that rating does not necessarily apply). So that's soemthing else to look out for. This part might sound complicated but in reality it's just plain common sense and takes all of 1 second to verify when you place the stand. It's not hard to tell if something is level or not.

A hydraulic jack on the other hand, is another story. The fluid in the jack may "spill" or vent suddenly and without warning, or the seals may fail, with little or no visual clues that could have been seen before hand. It's still a good idea to inspect the jack--stuff like cotter pins, solid metal parts, the cylinder and valves for anything abnormal but there's not much to tell you that the hydraulics might fail on this particular use.

Same for a scissor jack--it may look fine but just give way suddenly for no apparent reason, crashing to the ground. And I've seen this happen more than once with those el cheapo things! Fortunately the times I've seen it, it was quite hillarious and neither people or vehicles were injured but it really highlights how unsafe those things are when you see it happen. If you ever need to change a tyre with one of these at least be cautious and don't put any part of your body in a position where it could possibly be crushed. Even on the first use a scissor jack can collapse!

And there's always something to be said for redundancy if you want to be extra safe... For example using additional jackstands (probably overkill really) or just using the jack and jackstand on the side of the car you'll be closest to--resting the weight on the stand but having the jack positioned right up at the lifting point. In some bizzare circumstance should the stand fail, the jack will still be there giving you time to get out from underneath. It's highly unlikely the stand will fail but it might give some people some additional peice of mind knowing they have a "backup".

great write-up buddy!

[MXMike]

Who needs jackstands?

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[matrikx]

Who needs jackstands?

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Is he welding the gas tank? :razz: