Futureshop / Best Buy's Blu-ray sabotage.

[spyd4r]

Every time a new release is brought out on competing technologies (BR/HD-DVD), Futureshop blows the release date on the Blu-ray title. I think there may be some "influence" behind this.

e.g. Take a look at the "A Scanner Darkly" release or the Nine Inch Nails "Beside You in Time". Both were out on HD-DVD for the release date... but somehow the Blu-ray copies did not arrive in the shipment..

Anyone else realize this as well?

[Maxspeed]

the hd-dvd display is in some corner...... the blue-ray display is front and center in the tv department....

all xbox 360s were turned off during the launch week of the playstation 3..... i think its the opposite.... futureshop is in cahoots with sony!...

[Rometiklan]

It's a conspiracy. Area 51 has something to do with this if I had to speculate.

Seriously, I hadn't noticed. I had only recently begun to consider Blu-ray, so if there's some kind of influence untowards, I will probably begin to notice. But in the meantime, I will keep my eyes open for men in dark suits hanging around the blu-ray section at FS or BB.:cheesygri

[theurbancanadian]

It's a conspiracy. Area 51 has something to do with this if I had to speculate.

Seriously, I hadn't noticed. I had only recently begun to consider Blu-ray, so if there's some kind of influence untowards, I will probably begin to notice. But in the meantime, I will keep my eyes open for men in dark suits hanging around the blu-ray section at FS or BB.:cheesygri

:cheesygri the truth is out there **X-Files music playing :D **

[rabbit]

Gremlins is what it is.

[bembol]

LOL

I read that in the States, it's the complete opposite in both Software & Hardware...it's well known that Best Buy was bought out by Sony/BD! Pics were taken that they used HD DVD's/Toshiba to DEMO Blu-ray Disc, put Toshiba players out of sight and leave HD DVD's in the back/warehouse.

I had to ask Best Buy (Brampton, Mississauga) several times to check HD DVD's at the back/warehouse.

[Corizzle]

According to Amazon A Scanner Darkly is not out until next week for either format...

[The Digital Dolphin]

The futureshop at Metrotown has all the Blu-Ray movies in the PS3 section... not even in the movie section!

I think all different stores are screwed up in different ways, some in favour of one format, and some for the other format. Some stores just generally suck for both formats too :razz:

Honestly, I think in the end it equals out.

[buttercupNwesley]

What the Heck is Blu-Ray I have seen it advertised a lot on TV but have no clue what it is????

[GunnerX]

Actually, I think it's a spelling mistake. It's actually Blue Jays.

[Dano76]

Gremlins is what it is.

be sure not to get any water on the Blu Ray displays, and you should be ok.

[Fanboy]

Every time a new release is brought out on competing technologies (BR/HD-DVD), Futureshop blows the release date on the Blu-ray title. I think there may be some "influence" behind this.

e.g. Take a look at the "A Scanner Darkly" release or the Nine Inch Nails "Beside You in Time". Both were out on HD-DVD for the release date... but somehow the Blu-ray copies did not arrive in the shipment..

Anyone else realize this as well?
They'll only sell you the Blu-ray version if you go into the store wearing your tinfoil hat -- that way they know you are cognosenti.

If you don't have the ability to make your own tinfoil hat at home, there are a great many posters in the Political forum who have extras they can sell you.

[googoo]

"The futureshop at Metrotown has all the Blu-Ray movies in the PS3 section... not even in the movie section!"

That sounds about right because the only reason BD is selling is because of the PS3 owners.

Brent

[Feneant]

At Walmart around here you have one section for both BluRay and HD. The HD rack has around 10 different movies shoved in the back as an afterthought while there are around 40 BR titles with multiple copies of each.

For Futureshop, they have around the same size section for BR/HDDVD, but all the HD-DVDs are around 5-10$ pricier than one their website.

[sfu_lifer]

No I think it's more blu-ray being promoted (it is selling better).
Check out the flyers. You never see HD-DVD being mentioned anywhere in the DVD section while Blu-Ray is prominent.

[GunnerX]

Actually. The Best Buy flyer had Happy Feet and Children of Man HD DVD advertised. :D

[Topher]

be sure not to get any water on the Blu Ray displays, and you should be ok.

You should be embarrassed to have though of this so quickly.

[sfu_lifer]

Actually. The Best Buy flyer had Happy Feet and Children of Man HD DVD advertised. :D
Well that's a first :cheesygri
Hopefully it's the start of a turnaround for hd-dvd.

[dreadknot69]

But the real question is....

who the heck wants to watch "A Scanner Darkly" again?? ;)

[Strummer12]

most people pirate their movies especially on rfd so it's weird to see people actually caring about BR or HD DVD.

Both formats will be non existant by 2009 anyways and everything will be downloadable.

[GunnerX]

Wow, talk about a generalization. I have almost 500 DVDs/BR/HD DVD combined and I purchased every single one of them.

[Strummer12]

Wow, talk about a generalization. I have almost 500 DVDs/BR/HD DVD combined and I purchased every single one of them.

That's why I said MOST.

[cgibinladen]

Wow, talk about a generalization. I have almost 500 DVDs/BR/HD DVD combined and I purchased every single one of them.

You ought to be ashamed of yourself. It's behavior like that that keeps Disc prices inflated and the big corps convinced that their business model is sound. Up with downloading!!!! (Down with miniskirts)

I think though that it's the store's prerogative as to when and how to market rival formats. If they get better deals on one than another or have better working relationships, then it would make sense to market their primary partners better.

[spyd4r]

I don't doubt Blu-ray is selling better, hell i have over 10 BR titles already. I just don't think Futureshop/BestBuy are equally pushing both formats

[The Digital Dolphin]

Wow, talk about a generalization. I have almost 500 DVDs/BR/HD DVD combined and I purchased every single one of them.

I'm at a little over 480 right now myself, all legit. But I've curbed my purchasing a lot these last 5-6 months now, and I'm only buying new releases on Blu-Ray. No point in buying DVDs when I'll just have to re-buy them on Blu-Ray in a few years.

I'll buy into HD DVD if it can prove to me it will survive past 2008. I have no such concerns about Blu-Ray.

[MidnightWatcher]

Who wants to buy Blu-ray anyway? It's going to end up a dead format, despite all the Sony propaganda. ;)

[rabbit]

and I'm only buying new releases on Blu-Ray

More money than brains.



I'll buy into HD DVD if it can prove to me it will survive past 2008. I have no such concerns about Blu-Ray.

I'll buy into either if they can prove that their value is better than standard DVDs.

[sfu_lifer]

and I'm only buying new releases on Blu-Ray

More money than brains.



I'll buy into HD DVD if it can prove to me it will survive past 2008. I have no such concerns about Blu-Ray.

I'll buy into either if they can prove that their value is better than standard DVDs.
Why the hate? Some blu-ray releases are less than $10 off the DVD MSRP and at much higher quality for both audio+video. I've been slowly buying releases when they're on sale for <$20 for the movies I can keep watching over and again (HD-DVD and Blu-Ray).

[GunnerX]

If you can give me a DVD with 1080p decoding and lossless sound. Then I will stop buying BR/HD DVDs.

[The Digital Dolphin]

and I'm only buying new releases on Blu-Ray

More money than brains.

A little mean there I think, but I can understand why you would feel that way from your perspective. However, from my perspective, when I have full faith (for better or for worse) that Blu-Ray willl last as a format, I am looking at this as a pro-active movement to get ahead of things, since I won't be tempted to re-buy these titles later on.

Another thing worth mentioning is that out of 9 Blu-Ray titles, I think I only paid more then $20 USD on 2 of them.


I'll buy into HD DVD if it can prove to me it will survive past 2008. I have no such concerns about Blu-Ray.

I'll buy into either if they can prove that their value is better than standard DVDs.

When I get my Blu-Ray player, you're invited to join me in comparing the quality :)

[gman]

Actually, I think it's a spelling mistake. It's actually Blue Jays.

It is not a spelling mistake. It is a short form of a baseball game.

Blue Jays vs Devil Rays

They are playing that game right now and the score is 2-1.

[The Digital Dolphin]

The sales figures for last week just came in... they look like this:

Since Format Inception:
(Blu-ray:HD-DVD)
100:77,88

Year To Date:
(Blu-ray:HD-DVD)
100:43,16

Estimated Weekly Sales Ratio:
(Blu-ray:HD-DVD)
100:52

Source, as well as some pretty graphs showing how sales have looked over the year and since inception:
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=5724

[rabbit]

Some blu-ray releases are less than $10 off the DVD MSRP and at much higher quality for both audio+video.

Which titles?




A little mean there I think,

Sure, you're entitled to think that, as we're all just expressing opinions here, and there hasn't been any memo that says that we can't ;).


Another thing worth mentioning is that out of 9 Blu-Ray titles, I think I only paid more then $20 USD on 2 of them.

Which titles?


When I get my Blu-Ray player, you're invited to join me in comparing the quality

Why haven't you bought a BRD player already, and when will you actually buy one? What kind of sound system do you have? I don't need to do a quality comparison. I have no doubt that the quality is better than 480.

[The Digital Dolphin]

Another thing worth mentioning is that out of 9 Blu-Ray titles, I think I only paid more then $20 USD on 2 of them.

Which titles?

Fifth Element
Terminator
Terminator 2
The Prestige
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
A Knights Tale
Resident Evil Apocalypse
Ice Age: The Meltdown
Stranger Than Fiction


When I get my Blu-Ray player, you're invited to join me in comparing the quality

Why haven't you bought a BRD player already, and when will you actually buy one? What kind of sound system do you have? I don't need to do a quality comparison. I have no doubt that the quality is better than 480.

I'm really rather in debt from buying my HDTV. Currently I don't have any sound system beyond that which came in my Sharp 46" 46D62 LCD HDTV. My system is still a work in progress really.

I'll buy a PS3 as soon as I can pay off enough of my debts to not be concerned about it. But I might end up waiting until Christmas as I've heard there could be a price drop already by then.

[rabbit]

So with those movies you've listed, what's the price difference between BD and DVD?


Currently I don't have any sound system beyond that which came in my Sharp 46" 46D62 LCD HDTV. My system is still a work in progress really.

Personally, I would have gotten a sound system before spending money on HiDef movies. Audio is half of a movie, and I get really pissed off when cinemas cheap out on the sound. I haven't gone to Tinseltown for years because of it, even after I complained to the manager.



But I might end up waiting until Christmas as I've heard there could be a price drop already by then.

Do you think those movies you bought will have increased in price by the time you actually have a BD player?

[The Digital Dolphin]

So with those movies you've listed, what's the price difference between BD and DVD?

That's really impossible to answer. Do we compare MSRP's? The price I paid for the Blu-Ray's vs the MSRPs of the DVD versions? The lowest sale prices of the DVDs? How do I know what is the lowest price available for the DVDs?


Currently I don't have any sound system beyond that which came in my Sharp 46" 46D62 LCD HDTV. My system is still a work in progress really.

Personally, I would have gotten a sound system before spending money on HiDef movies. Audio is half of a movie, and I get really pissed off when cinemas cheap out on the sound. I haven't gone to Tinseltown for years because of it, even after I complained to the manager.

To each their own, I put picture quality ahead of sound quality, but I can deffinately understand the opposite opinion. As you say, audio is *HALF* the movie... so it's 6 of one, half a dozen of the other... or something like that.

As for Tinseltown, I know what you mean about the sound quality... they *DO* cheap out there. However, they are also one of the few theatres out there (the only one in the GVA I know of) that will play anime movies (like the Cowboy Bebop movie, and Steam Boy). So I support them for their non-mainstream movies :)



But I might end up waiting until Christmas as I've heard there could be a price drop already by then.

Do you think those movies you bought will have increased in price by the time you actually have a BD player?

Please stop poking logic holes in my emotional and impulse based purchasing decisions... :cheesygri

[rabbit]

To each their own, I put picture quality ahead of sound quality, but I can deffinately understand the opposite opinion.

I just mean that you need a balance. It's more balanced to have DVD + soundsystem than HiDef - soundsystem.

[spyd4r]

Well it is now 3 days past the official release date with no copies in sight at any futureshops and their computers not showing any on route from the warehouse..

but the HD-DVD copies are in.... Hmmmmmmmmm.

[mrtvgame]

I have both formats and honestly there is no difference in picture/sound among the two.

In this generation it comes down to how good the transfer is from the studio. Lazy studio transfers shine very brightly in these formats.

With 95% of this upcoming summer blockbuster movies heading to Blu Ray this Fall, I think we will have a very good picture of the war by this time next year.

[rabbit]

Every time a new release is brought out on competing technologies (BR/HD-DVD), Futureshop blows the release date on the Blu-ray title. I think there may be some "influence" behind this.

I wonder if it's a manufacturing/distribution problem (pressing plants not being able to keep up).