How do kids get to this?

[Flame_lily]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070404/ap_on_re_us/school_sex_arrests;_ylt=Aq_3bkYHh3MN6WzKyKq1uqJH2o cA

From a moral perspective how does this happen. It's bad enough these a pre-teen doing it in class?! Could the parents have seen this coming?

[Topher]

That's sad. Really, really, sad.

[alysomji]

And people wonder why parents eventually resort to spanking.

[TenzoR]

And people wonder why parents eventually resort to spanking.

I doubt spanking will stop these kids from doing something like this. It has a lot more to do with parents themselves not being able to guide and properly teach their children.

[gemstone]

I doubt spanking will stop these kids from doing something like this. It has a lot more to do with parents themselves not being able to guide and properly teach their children.

Since there were 5 kids involved and 10 others watching that did nothing, I highly doubt the parents alone were responsible for this. These kids have the whole world telling them sex is nothing special and obviously have become totally desensitized to it. The guard was probably posted because of their parents teaching them it was wrong. Outside influences (videos, movies, etc.) are the reason for this incident. I feel sorry for parents today if they have to be concerned about their kids having sex at 10-11 years old. Who the heck would think to tell there kids not to do it in public?

This couldn't have been a normal 5th grade either. 5th graders should be 10 or turn 11 since the beginning of the year. And why was a high school teacher "watching" them? Was this school K - 12?

[Spidey]

raisings kids now a day is scary business. So much more things than even ten years ago

[D-Roc]

And people wonder why parents eventually resort to spanking.


Physical violence would not have corrected this behaviour. Clearly there is a parenting issue with the parents of all 5 kids.

[Diamondog]

And people wonder why parents eventually resort to spanking.

Ha ha another GREAT reason to spank your kid......you are too much....you don't think this has anything to do with poor parenting? I guess it's not your kid though because yours won't go to school.

[alysomji]

Ha ha another GREAT reason to spank your kid......you are too much....you don't think this has anything to do with poor parenting? I guess it's not your kid though because yours won't go to school.

I'm not saying these specific kids should be spanked or that spanking would help them. What I'm saying is many kids are a far different animal than the innocent, ignorant creatures their parents might think they are.

Tell me, is it the parents who taught these kids how to have sex? Does a parent control everything their child sees?

Some of us have lives where we work 40+ hours a week and don't live in the middle of forests where you can walk outside and see nothing bad happening.

God forbid a kid has any, and I mean ANY responsibility for their actions. Yeesh.

[gemstone]

Clearly there is a parenting issue with the parents of all 5 kids.

There were 15 kids involved in this. If you are going to include the kid who was just the lookout then you need to include the ones who sat there and watched and did nothing. The school only found out because one of the kids told an older student who told a teacher. I guess the older student was the only one with good parents? Clearly poor parenting is not the reason for these kids behaviour. It isn't that simple.

[Diamondog]

There were 15 kids involved in this. If you are going to include the kid who was just the lookout then you need to include the ones who sat there and watched and did nothing. The school only found out because one of the kids told an older student who told a teacher. I guess the older student was the only one with good parents? Clearly poor parenting is not the reason for these kids behaviour. It isn't that simple.

Poor parenting isn't the only reason there are other factors but it definately is a BIG part of it....give me a break kids having basically an orgy at this age and lookouts and onlookers isn't a parenting issue...WOW....to say it was 15 kids so it couldn't possibly be a parenting issue is ludicrous...no way to tell how many kids go to this school but it's quite possibly several hundred or more and 15 kids who probably hang around with each other wouldn't really be that many....and kids that have these types of problems most definately seek each other out to hang around with....maybe it's that attitude that has gotten the world to the state it's in!

[volan]

Holy crap!!!

I am totally in shock!!!

My 3 year old has no problem running around naked, but at a certain age people don't want to see them naked anymore. What could cause these kids to strip down and have sex in front of other kids?

I think there's something more going on here. These kids have either been having sex in private and decided they wanted to "show off" or they are in extreme need of attention.

[gemstone]

Poor parenting isn't the only reason there are other factors but it definately is a part of it....give me a break kids having basically an orgy at this age and lookouts and onlookers isn't a parenting issue...WOW....maybe it's that attitude that has gotten the world to the state it's in!

I never said it wasn't a parenting issue. I said it couldn't be just because of the parents since there were 15 kids involved. A whole class has "bad parents"? Like I said, it is not that simple.

[Diamondog]

I never said it wasn't a parenting issue. I said it couldn't be just because of the parents since there were 15 kids involved. A whole class has "bad parents"? Like I said, it is not that simple.

15 kids out of possibly hundreds or more that go to the school is not that many at all...kids with these types of problems seek each other out to hang around with and it is definately understandable that 15 kids with poor parenting at home end up identifying and hanging around with each other!

[Flame_lily]

I think as a society we do need to take a step back and see what's going on. On a 0-10 scale this is off the charts. What about the other behaviours that range in the 7, 8, 9 scale that are not as attention grabbing but equally unacceptable? Is it today's parents.. (including being friends which one's kids), more permissive, accomodating, busy, busy busy or the society that says parents can't do this and that to their kids therefore some parents may feel disenfranchised (no, I'm not going into the spanking debate). I know parents who live in fear of the Children's Aid Society. (I'm all for child protection). Just like the Lobaws zealot on other thread here are we missing the equilibrium point?
Kinda scary. Could be my kid. Easy to dismiss it as bad parenting but who really knows? I think it's false security to blame it all on parents.

[gemstone]

15 kids out of possibly hundreds or more that go to the school is not that many at all...kids with these types of problems seek each other out to hang around with and it is definately understandable that 15 kids with poor parenting at home end up identifying and hanging around with each other!

And these 15 kids of poor parents just happen to be in the same class? They weren't just hanging out.

[Diamondog]

I think as a society we do need to take a step back and see what's going on. On a 0-10 scale this is off the charts. What about the other behaviours that range in the 7, 8, 9 scale that are not as attention grabbing but equally unacceptable? Is it today's parents.. (including being friends which one's kids), more permissive, accomodating, busy, busy busy or the society that says parents can't do this and that to their kids therefore some parents may feel disenfranchised (no, I'm not going into the spanking debate). I know parents who live in fear of the Children's Aid Society. (I'm all for child protection). Just like the Lobaws zealot on other thread here are we missing the equilibrium point?
Kinda scary. Could be my kid. Easy to dismiss it as bad parenting but who really knows? I think it's false security to blame it all on parents.

It begins with poor parenting and then when the kids are sent out into to the world who do they identify with other children that are likeminded and the peer pressure enters into the picture.

[Flame_lily]

It begins with poor parenting and then when the kids are sent out into to the world who do they identify with other children that are likeminded and the peer pressure enters into the picture.

Like the poster above said this was a class, not a group of friends. You may have your opinions but it wouldn't be a bad idea to actually read before posting. It takes away from your argument. Almost makes it irrational.

[Xax]

Since there were 5 kids involved and 10 others watching that did nothing, I highly doubt the parents alone were responsible for this. These kids have the whole world telling them sex is nothing special and obviously have become totally desensitized to it.
Quoted for truth.

[D-Roc]

Tell me, is it the parents who taught these kids how to have sex? Does a parent control everything their child sees?

Some of us have lives where we work 40+ hours a week and don't live in the middle of forests where you can walk outside and see nothing bad happening.

God forbid a kid has any, and I mean ANY responsibility for their actions. Yeesh.

It was the parents responsibility to teach their kids about sex. Clearly they failed. And yes at that age the parents should be controlling (as much as they can) what their kids are exposed to. Again, clearly in this case the parents failed.

[D-Roc]

Since there were 5 kids involved and 10 others watching that did nothing, I highly doubt the parents alone were responsible for this. These kids have the whole world telling them sex is nothing special and obviously have become totally desensitized to it.

Why would the kids be exposed to sex at that age in the first place?? If they were then clearly the parents are at fault for not controlling what they are being exposed to.

[Spidey]

Why would the kids be exposed to sex at that age in the first place?? If they were then clearly the parents are at fault for not controlling what they are being exposed to.

When your kids arent with you an in school, how can you control what they are exposed to. You can explain to them right and wrong and about sex in the home, but after they leave the house, how can you control what they see and hear

Ever hear of peer pressure and whatever other things kids do know to make their friends do things.

Everythings so clear to you. "Clearly its the parents fault"

MWA MWA MWA Sound like Charlie Browns teacher

[D-Roc]

When your kids arent with you an in school, how can you control what they are exposed to. You can explain to them right and wrong and about sex in the home, but after they leave the house, how can you control what they see and hear

Ever hear of peer pressure and whatever other things kids do know to make their friends do things.

Everythings so clear to you. "Clearly its the parents fault"

MWA MWA MWA Sound like Charlie Browns teacher

Hellooooooooo....Mcfly!!!!!!

They are in grade 5. What, 10 years old at max?? They should not be exposed to sex at that age. Yes there is peer pressure and yes there is the posibility of talk about sex at school with other kids (who's parents are obviously not controlling what thier kids are exposed to) but that exposure is limited and besides school the kids at that age should be at home or in the neighborhood playing not being exposed to sex.


Man I can not believe some parents.

[alysomji]

It was the parents responsibility to teach their kids about sex. Clearly they failed. And yes at that age the parents should be controlling (as much as they can) what their kids are exposed to. Again, clearly in this case the parents failed.

Show me where it says they did neither.

Please shove your pure speculation up where it belongs.

[Spidey]

Show me where it says they did neither.

Please shove your pure speculation up where it belongs.

Thank you

[Spidey]

Hellooooooooo....Mcfly!!!!!!

They are in grade 5. What, 10 years old at max?? They should not be exposed to sex at that age. Yes there is peer pressure and yes there is the posibility of talk about sex at school with other kids (who's parents are obviously not controlling what thier kids are exposed to) but that exposure is limited and besides school the kids at that age should be at home or in the neighborhood playing not being exposed to sex.


Man I can not believe some parents.


My sons ten, and no he's not exposed to sex at home. But its everywhere else, tv ads, magazine covers, radio, movies.

We protect him as much as we can from it, but not as much to basically think its wrong.

But nothing stops him from listening to little johhny on the playground talking about.

As for other exposuure, you cannot be around you child 24 hours a day protecting him from what he may be exposed to

Man I cant beleive how naive some parents are

[paullyn59]

Hellooooooooo....Mcfly!!!!!!

They are in grade 5. What, 10 years old at max?? They should not be exposed to sex at that age. Yes there is peer pressure and yes there is the posibility of talk about sex at school with other kids (who's parents are obviously not controlling what thier kids are exposed to) but that exposure is limited and besides school the kids at that age should be at home or in the neighborhood playing not being exposed to sex.


Man I can not believe some parents.

Did you even read the article? 11, 12 and 13 year olds. In this day and age there is no escaping sex. It's everywhere. It is not limited. In a perfect world they would not have so much exposure but this ain't a perfect world. Even 50 years ago kid's probably talked about sex, hopefully not this young and probably not as graphically. And if your kids are discussing sex with other kids then I guess you didn't control your kid very well, eh! Can't blame the other parent all the time. You had better lock your kids up because you are in for a rude awakening but I really would love to live in your world.

[Spidey]

Did you even read the article? 11, 12 and 13 year olds. In this day and age there is no escaping sex. It's everywhere. It is not limited. In a perfect world they would not have so much exposure but this ain't a perfect world. Even 50 years ago kid's probably talked about sex, hopefully not this young and probably not as graphically. And if your kids are discussing sex with other kids then I guess you didn't control your kid very well, eh! Can't blame the other parent all the time. You had better lock your kids up because you are in for a rude awakening but I really would love to live in your world.


Your saying things I want to. I definitly agree with your remarks

[gemstone]

Quoted for truth.

I wish it wasn't the truth. I wish I could sit down and watch a complete movie with my adult kids or siblings. I find it extremely uncomfortable when the gratuitus sex scenes come on. I usually fast forward or get up to get a drink. I can't imagine what it would be like to go to a movie on the first few dates and have to watch it. But I guess that is just me because apparently it is no big deal for them.

[Icedawn]

My sons ten, and no he's not exposed to sex at home. But its everywhere else, tv ads, magazine covers, radio, movies.

We protect him as much as we can from it, but not as much to basically think its wrong.

But nothing stops him from listening to little johhny on the playground talking about.

As for other exposuure, you cannot be around you child 24 hours a day protecting him from what he may be exposed to

Man I cant beleive how naive some parents are

clicked on this thread by accident and happened to see these above comments juxtaposed with your avatar... hilarious.

[D-Roc]

Show me where it says they did neither.

Please shove your pure speculation up where it belongs.

Is this what you and spidey teach your kids??? Then that is very telling of how good of a parent both of you are.

This wouuld not have happened if the parents had discussed sex with their kids. Plain and simple.

[D-Roc]

My sons ten, and no he's not exposed to sex at home. But its everywhere else, tv ads, magazine covers, radio, movies.



All of which you as a parent should be controlling their exposure to.

Man I can not beleive how irresponsible and stupid some parents are today.

[D-Roc]

Did you even read the article? 11, 12 and 13 year olds. In this day and age there is no escaping sex. It's everywhere. It is not limited. In a perfect world they would not have so much exposure but this ain't a perfect world. Even 50 years ago kid's probably talked about sex, hopefully not this young and probably not as graphically. And if your kids are discussing sex with other kids then I guess you didn't control your kid very well, eh! Can't blame the other parent all the time. You had better lock your kids up because you are in for a rude awakening but I really would love to live in your world.

True they can not escape sex, however if the parents had discussed sex with them so they when they hear the misinformation and rumours on teh playground they would know what is fact and what is not. They would also know what is acceptable behaviour when it comes to sex. I have no plans of locking my child up but I plan to make sure that she gets her sex education from me and my wife, not from the playground.

[Diamondog]

Uggghh I hope my kids never come across some of these parents children! Seems like there are a lot of "crutches" out there to blame our childrens behavior on...TV, radio, magazines, internet, other children etc....

[Spidey]

All of which you as a parent should be controlling their exposure to.

Man I can not beleive how irresponsible and stupid some parents are today.

Your cauling me irresponsible and stupid. FCUK YOU

I cantrol everything I can in my house. My kids dont watch those type of movies or tv shows. We dont even allow them to watch the Simpsons.

His friends even play video games that are rated for teens. He tells me he doesnt play them when he is at a freinds house. How do I have control over that

We dont have those types of magazine lying around either. But once my son sets foot outside the house to walk to school, I have no control of what he sees or hears. Or when he goes to the park, or

Your talking about control, sounds like you are protecting your kids so much from life that when they get older lifes gonna take them for a ride

I hope you fall off that pedastal one of these days. All you have been doing is calling people down that dont follow your views and ideals.

[Spidey]

Uggghh I hope my kids never come across some of these parents children! Seems like there are a lot of "crutches" out there to blame our childrens behavior on...TV, radio, magazines, internet, other children etc....


So when you children leave the house, how do you control what they see or hear.

Ive taught my kids about it, but even walking into a convience store to get something, the magazines are there (Maxim, etc)

Id rather have my kids grow up knowing things and growing up knowing to be repsonsible about it, then try to protect them and hide it from them

[Diamondog]

So when you children leave the house, how do you control what they see or hear.

Ive taught my kids about it, but even walking into a convience store to get something, the magazines are there (Maxim, etc)

Id rather have my kids grow up knowing things and growing up knowing to be repsonsible about it, then try to protect them and hide it from them

Debate could go on forever on the subject from both perspectives.....I think I'll leave it at that no sense in continuing trying to get each other to see things differently at this point. You and D-Roc keep going though I love the entertainment while I'm at work! :cheesygri

[puroeuro]

surprised no one said "we blame video games, especially grand theft auto"

i blame the bad parenting :)

[D-Roc]

So when you children leave the house, how do you control what they see or hear.

Ive taught my kids about it, but even walking into a convience store to get something, the magazines are there (Maxim, etc)

Id rather have my kids grow up knowing things and growing up knowing to be repsonsible about it, then try to protect them and hide it from them

We are not trying to hide them from it. We are ensuring that they are not watching inappropriate shows for their age range, reading inappropriate material, etc.
That is what responsible parenting is about. When the time comes for them to be taught/shown other things that is again appropriate for their age then that is teh time to expose them to it.

[Spidey]

All of which you as a parent should be controlling their exposure to.

Man I can not beleive how irresponsible and stupid some parents are today.


So this quote of yours here isnt saying anything about my parenting skills at all. This quote is directed to a mesage I left.


So your saying that someone that doesnt see your point of view is stupid and irresponsible.

Id rather be that than arrogant thinking their parenting skills are better than the next parent

[D-Roc]

So this quote of yours here isnt saying anything about my parenting skills at all. This quote is directed to a mesage I left.


So your saying that someone that doesnt see your point of view is stupid and irresponsible.

Id rather be that than arrogant thinking their parenting skills are better than the next parent


I posted that in response to the below quote from you. Maybe I shouldn't have but I did. You really shouldn't throw stones.


Man I cant beleive how naive some parents are

[Spidey]

I posted that in response to the below quote from you. Maybe I shouldn't have but I did. You really shouldn't throw stones.

Ah, so you can say parents are stupid and ignorant, but someone cant call you naive

[D-Roc]

Ah, so you can say parents are stupid and ignorant, but someone cant call you naive

Oh god. Listen (actaully read) carefully. I posted what I did in response to you post. Got it?? I did not say anything of the sort so stop putting words in my mouth (posts).

Oh and btw this quote from you is priceless. "Name calling is something Im definitly not teaching my kids, yet they were calling me things like stupid and irresponsible."

Hypocrisy at its best.

[Spidey]

Oh god. Listen (actaully read) carefully. I posted what I did in response to you post. Got it?? I did not say anything of the sort so stop putting words in my mouth (posts).

Oh and btw this quote from you is priceless. "Name calling is something Im definitly not teaching my kids, yet they were calling me things like stupid and irresponsible."

Hypocrisy at its best.

So you posting a response to something I posted is fibe, but not vice versa.

Kinda like the kettle calling the pot black isnt it

And as for the quote "Name calling is something Im definitly not teaching my kids, yet they were calling me things like stupid and irresponsible."

Why is that priceless, your the one thats saying that about parents youve never met, not me

[D-Roc]

So you posting a response to something I posted is fibe, but not vice versa.

Kinda like the kettle calling the pot black isnt it

And as for the quote "Name calling is something Im definitly not teaching my kids, yet they were calling me things like stupid and irresponsible."

Why is that priceless, your the one thats saying that about parents youve never met, not me


I guess I will have to point out the obvious to you. I responded in kind to your post and I said before that I probably should not have. Up to that point I was not implying or accusing you of anything. (yes this is going to sound a bit childish) You posted that type of comment first and I posted back when I should not have. My fault for coming down to your level. I should have left that comment out and been the bigger person.

As for the priceless comment. You are there claiming that you do not teach name calling yet you have done just that on several posts.

[Spidey]

I guess I will have to point out the obvious to you. I responded in kind to your post and I said before that I probably should not have. Up to that point I was not implying or accusing you of anything. (yes this is going to sound a bit childish) You posted that type of comment first and I posted back when I should not have. My fault for coming down to your level. I should have left that comment out and been the bigger person.

As for the priceless comment. You are there claiming that you do not teach name calling yet you have done just that on several posts.

NO your just accusing every other person you have never met about.

Coming down to my level, thats rich. Guess you do think your better than I am.

I dont teahc name calling thats correct. But teaching and doing are two different things. Im not doing it in front of my children am I.

I have also seen nunmerous times asked how many kids you have, yet you dont respond. How come?? Ive seen many parents say they have 3, 4 or 5. Thats a huge responsibilty, and they dont need somene like you condensending them for their actions, just beacuse they dont meet your "approval"

[D-Roc]

NO your just accusing every other person you have never met about.

Coming down to my level, thats rich. Guess you do think your better than I am.

I dont teahc name calling thats correct. But teaching and doing are two different things. Im not doing it in front of my children am I.

I have also seen nunmerous times asked how many kids you have, yet you dont respond. How come?? Ive seen many parents say they have 3, 4 or 5. Thats a huge responsibilty, and they dont need somene like you condensending them for their actions, just beacuse they dont meet your "approval"

In context to my original comment you have guessed accurately.

So, you teach one thing but practice another? First time I have seen someone admit they are a hypocrite. Oh you may not name call in front of your kids but you do swear. But of course that is ok.:rolleyes:

How many children I have is my own business and no one elses. Besides the number of children I have is irrelevant.

[Spidey]

heres a quote I remember now from comedian george Carlin

"Id rather have my children watch a movie about 2 people making love than 2 people killing each other"

Todays soceity is like that it seems

SEX = BAD

VIOLENCE = OK (or I guess the lesser of two evils)


These children being that young and doing that is wrong definitly. But I think its at least better than kids that young killing each other. And lately it seems thats happening more and more. The news is rampnat now with young kids hurting or killing people now

[Spidey]

In context to my original comment you have guessed accurately.

So, you teach one thing but practice another? First time I have seen someone admit they are a hypocrite. Oh you may not name call in front of your kids but you do swear. But of course that is ok.:rolleyes:

How many children I have is my own business and no one elses. Besides the number of children I have is irrelevant.

Number of children you have is relevant, or do you have any at all. Or are you on here just to cast dispurtions on peoeple.

Im gonna say this, and its probbaly gonna piss alot of parent off.

If you only have once child, you dont knwo what its like to raise kids. because that child can have 100% of your attention.

I used to be the same as well, when we only had one child I thought that this paretning thing is a peice of cake.

When the second came along it was like a swicth was turned on. Unbeleiveable the extra eneergy it takes just for one more kid,

Ive had many friends I knwo say the same thing. They had one, and life was basically the saem as before (within reason) But after the second they finally realized how hard parenting was.

Lets face it, the first child your so careful, baby prrofing, watching them, etc. But by the third their juggling knoves and your like, whatever. Their tougher than they look

So I have guessed correcty then and you do think yout better than me,You better get off this forum boy, that attitude doesnt fly here at all.

Ive met people like you with that snobby attitude either becaue of more money or supposdly more class, and I could care less

All I know is I support my family the best I can. And if you dont like that to bad. You wanna judje me because i swear occasionaly here and there, or whatever things you may not seem right in your eyes. But I go to bed at night knowing my kids are growing up in a house where one person isnt better than the next. And that hard work and dedication is something to be valued.

I may be a supposed "hypocrite" But id rather be that than some snob in their ivory tower talking down to people that you think dont match your supposed way of acting anfd thinking

[D-Roc]

Who said on this thread that they would rather have their kids watch a movie with violence over sex?

[Xax]

Who said on this thread that they would rather have their kids watch a movie with violence over sex?
I didn't, but I would.

[Spidey]

Who said on this thread that they would rather have their kids watch a movie with violence over sex?


No one, but the original posting was about sex. and how its the parent responsibility ot make sure their kids enver see it.

In todays soceity it seems that sex is viewed worse than violence.

[Spidey]

I didn't, but I would.

So sex education in school is wrong then

[D-Roc]

Number of kids is irrelevent and yes your comment is going to piss many parents of single children off because it is simply false.

I better get off this forum because I think I am better than you since I do not tell someone to go F off and shove it up their ass? IN that context I am. I do not need to resort to foul language in a debate.
I can post here just as much as you can.

Snobby?? No I am most certainly not. It is called being passionate about not using violence against kids to gain their respect and to bring them up properly.

[D-Roc]

No one, but the original posting was about sex. and how its the parent responsibility ot make sure their kids enver see it.

In todays soceity it seems that sex is viewed worse than violence.

Strangely enough I agree with this point.

[Spidey]

Number of kids is irrelevent and yes your comment is going to piss many parents of single children off because it is simply false.

I better get off this forum because I think I am better than you since I do not tell someone to go F off and shove it up their ass?
I can post here just as much as you can.

Snobby?? No I am most certainly not. It is called being passionate about not using violence against kids to gain their respect and to bring them up properly.

Youve gone from being passionate to basically lamb bating ervyone on here that dont see your point of view

As for false it may be, but when you just have one kid you miss out on all the things that multiple kids. The fighitng, screaming, bugging, or whatver else khappens when they get together.

Try going to a restaurant with one kids compared to 3-4 and tell me hoiw much easier it is.

Post all you want, but most people that post on here dont call people down on here

[D-Roc]

:rolleyes:

[Spidey]

:rolleyes:

Great attitude to teach your kids

Heres mine :cheesygri :D :cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri

[D-Roc]

At least mine does not involve swearing and violence.:!: :cheesygri

[Spidey]

At least mine does not involve swearing and violence.:!: :cheesygri

No yours involves making yourself feel that your better than other people. :cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri

And if Im violent than Im offering you this. Call child services on me right now. have some balls and do it instead of just talking about.

[alysomji]

They are in grade 5. What, 10 years old at max?? They should not be exposed to sex at that age. Yes there is peer pressure and yes there is the posibility of talk about sex at school with other kids (who's parents are obviously not controlling what thier kids are exposed to) but that exposure is limited and besides school the kids at that age should be at home or in the neighborhood playing not being exposed to sex.

Man I can not believe some parents.

This wouuld not have happened if the parents had discussed sex with their kids. Plain and simple.

http://www.speakmedia.com/gotpwned.jpg

D-Roc, it's time you got:
(a) a life
(b) a job

...so you can stop posting here all day with nothing but fluff

[Diamondog]

http://www.speakmedia.com/gotpwned.jpg

D-Roc, it's time you got:
(a) a life
(b) a job

...so you can stop posting here all day with nothing but fluff

Still waiting for you to post something relevant, intelligent and/or interesting!

[shoppingmama]

This is one of the many reasons I homeschool my children. They are exposed to way too much too early :mad: I really wonder what the parents are teaching their kids if this is the way they act when left alone with other kids.

[D-Roc]

http://www.speakmedia.com/gotpwned.jpg

D-Roc, it's time you got:
(a) a life
(b) a job

...so you can stop posting here all day with nothing but fluff

I have both. If you would like an example of fluff please see your post. Thank you.