Would you guys buy from sellers with low post/feedback ?

[StoneColdWhat]

Say you wanted to buy something in BST and the seller has no or very little post amount, no heatware/ebay record and no BST review, what would you do ? Lets say buying from an other seller is not an option and the amount is $4-500.

[jerrytoyer]

good question

[Moocha]

If it is local meet up I don't see why not

[mekaakaa]

If it is local meet up I don't see why not


i agree :D

but if it needed to be ship, then i will probably pass unless it is COD.

[mekaakaa]

btw.... i think you post this on the wrong forum :lol:

[skyblue12]

good question

no offense jerry.. but most of the posts i see you make are "good question" "i agree" "really?"

doesn't even sound like you really think that, just that you're trying to find something to post so you can work up your post count..

anyway.. i wouldn't mind dealing with people with low / no heatware / ebay feedback.. but if it's dealing with so much money then i'd much rather prefer feedback. if it was less than 100.. i wouldn't mind

[StoneColdWhat]

btw.... i think you post this on the wrong forum :lol:

figured this would be the best place to do it so that I can prevent myself from getting scammed :lol:

Yeah if it wasn't locally and it had to be shipped, would you guys do it ?

[smuncky]

figured this would be the best place to do it so that I can prevent myself from getting scammed :lol:

Yeah if it wasn't locally and it had to be shipped, would you guys do it ?



no, i personally wouldnt. i personaly do local trades only, but if the right price came up, and the seller has good feedback, only then i might consider it.

[Happy13178]

Depends. I'd do my homework no matter what, meet up or shipped. If its shipped, and you REALLY want it but aren't sure, then you should get as much verifiable info from the seller as possible. Name, address, phone number, email, bank account number, etc. You could pay using EMT and withhold the password until you receive the item, or pay half right away and half when you get it, etc.

[yao416]

If it is local meet up I don't see why not

yup.

[Composter]

I dealt with a new trader in the past that was selling an item valued at over $400 and he was willing to ship first. The Item was new in a box sealed so if they are willing to ship first by all means. On the other hand if they insist they want payment first I'd be very cautious. I would want phone number and personal info.

[Amourek]

Ship first or meet up locally (at their home/work, not in a neutral location). That's the only way I would buy from someone with little/no feedback.

[sweetladdy]

no way. local only..

[rubberband]

I bought my laptop on RFD from a new user with 25 posts and no feedback. He agreed to ship to me in return for a small deposit on the computer. We traded and verified contact info.. and everything went just fine.

Be sensible about shipping/payment and too-good-to-be-true deals, and you'll be ok with new users. Heck, half the posts about trade problems lately have been with sr. members gone bad!

Just be careful and you'll be ok. If a new user is not willing to compromise on shipping/etc, don't go through with the deal.

[ji2o0k]

i purchased my laptop off of a newbie RFDer.

It was a local deal though and I fully inspected everything. He even had receipts with addresses and I met up with him at his workplace.

I personally wouldn't do it if it was shipped. Local only.

[malaco0219]

I've no feedback (thanks to the power tripping mod at Hofo). And I've been dealing here for 2yrs + without feedback (not even heatware). Just cause i have no feedback, does that mean you cant trust me? :cheesygri

I haven't dealt lately, but definitely I would start using the new system implemented by the RFD mods here (thanks mods!) which is absolutely fabulous.

If i have to deal with someone without feedback, I first look at their joined date, how many posts they made, as well as if they've sold anything or if their names were posted here in this forum. Just cause you got no feedback doesn't mean you're not trust worthy. I just never bothered with Heatware cause i was too lazy, and I'm sure a lot of other people are just the same.

However, once you deal more here, like for me, i pretty much only deal cell phones here, and most of the time when you stay here long enough everyone knows everyone, and deal with each other, so the problem isnt hard.

As well, if they've been here for a while with many posts, I'm sure its safe to say they wont risk losing their reputation.. If you're so worried, always do meet ups and check EVERYTHING first. I never did ONE single shipping deal, because i just don't find it safe. The closest thing i've done close to shipping is have a middle person, i know both people, but the person i wanted to deal with lived too far, so the deal went through a middle person.

[LeeBoA]

If it is local meet up I don't see why not

Are you joking? the seller can jump the buyer

[divx]

People with higher post count/feedbacks gets preferences, that is all. If it is an expensive transaction I'd avoid it completely.

[malaco0219]

Are you joking? the seller can jump the buyer

Lol. Thats why you dont go alone or go to some hidden place. Always meet in big public places. My favourite is a food court, Macdonalds, Timmies..

Or, learn self defense.

[Hemorrhage]

Even tho i'm a low post count no feedback guy here i would deal with the same type of person if i haven't heard anything fishy about them any where else but i would deal new guys how else are they going to get feedback and post counts if ppl don't ever deal with the new guys

[Jon Lai]

People with higher post count/feedbacks gets preferences, that is all. If it is an expensive transaction I'd avoid it completely.

+1

You have to give "newbies" chances to do deals or else there would not ever be anyone that are not "newbs".

[theastroboy]

Everyone has been a newbie once, or the seller simply did not bother to build up his/her feedback. You have to give the seller a chance to start from somewhere.

You should be wary if it is a $400-500 item. Definitely check the item out and make sure it is as described. I would recommend you to go with a friend just to be safe.

[malaco0219]

+1

You have to give "newbies" chances to do deals or else there would not ever be anyone that are not "newbs".

Everyone has been a newbie once, or the seller simply did not bother to build up his/her feedback. You have to give the seller a chance to start from somewhere.

You should be wary if it is a $400-500 item. Definitely check the item out and make sure it is as described. I would recommend you to go with a friend just to be safe.

+1

Everyone starts somewhere.
As long as you're smart about your deals, i dont think dealing with newbies is a problem.

[Cacti]

Another factor to look at is his join date. If his post is like 75 and joined in 2004 i would probably do a deal.

[Instigator]

I bought a $1600 laptop from ebay last summer. The seller had feedback score of 50. The laptop came right to my door within expected delivery time.

The thing is...I got lucky with the laptop. Few others tried to buy the same laptop after viewing the feedback I left for that seller. Those guys weren't so lucky because the seller took the money (for about 8 of those $1600 laptops), closed his ebay account and never sent those laptops.

I got to know this from the buyers, they messaged me, told me what happened.

From that time I don't buy high priced items from eBay, even from high feedback sellers.

Local dealings are the safest.

[CurryToa]

i don't mind people with no feedback or little post counts because i was one of them few months ago....well i still have little post counts. i just buy and sell locally, too lazy with the shipping and stuff.

HAHA i like to meet at chinese "chaa caan teng"s but many people don't know where they are =_=;; i always want to eat lunch and have the transaction at the same time XD

[ultimate_rugal]

if it's alocal pickup, there shouldn't be any problems

[mau77on]

I only do local, and seller/buyer has to have a number i can reach them at right before we meet up.
If those are met then to me it doesn't matter if they have a low post or no feedback

[talktwo]

lol


i like to meet at chinese "chaa caan teng"s


I think it highly depends on the person's attitude (though I have been wrong about that ... see my post on PeterRR). Generally I feel that if the user is willing to negotiate with you some form of "deal" to gain your trust, I would deal with them. I have dealt with a few users who had no feedback, but had deals that seemed too good to be true. I had them meet me at my workplace or had them ship the order prior to payment. There are some who go out of their way to gain your trust, while others could care less.

Everyone was once a "new seller" ... I think the right attitude plays a large role. :)

[mcg]

Yup, just got my new phone from some guy with 36 posts the last time I checked. Doesn't even have feedback.

Talked a bit over email, met at Pacific, got the deal done.

[felix]

HAHA i like to meet at chinese "chaa caan teng"s but many people don't know where they are =_=;; i always want to eat lunch and have the transaction at the same time XD
I thought most people don't want to be disturbed when they're eating, especially when they're with friends/family. I usually tell my buyers to wait till after I'm done eating, and that I don't know which restaurant I'm going to ... which is true ... LOL :cheesygri

[dinkers]

Got scammed in the past..too many times, lol. Only local deals now, unless I really really really want it and can't find one anywhere else.

[f4i_84]

I just joined recently and so far my experience with dealing locally have been all positive. Besides its better to meeting in person to make sure the item is in good condition and you have the choice to leave if it isn't.

Personally, I feel apprehensive about sending money and having the item shipped to me. In that case, I probably go the Ebay route since there's more security.. (i assume)

[CobraYu]

I just joined recently and so far my experience with dealing locally have been all positive. Besides its better to meeting in person to make sure the item is in good condition and you have the choice to leave if it isn't.

Personally, I feel apprehensive about sending money and having the item shipped to me. In that case, I probably go the Ebay route since there's more security.. (i assume)

Only because paypal is your safeguard. My experience with sending money before receiving the item is to research as much information about the seller as possible. Ex. Phone number, address, name, alibi's.

Considering i live in Vancouver, and GTA seems to be where most of the action is at, i deal cross-Canada all the time, and so far im at 100% on everything! So .. dont fear cross-Canada transactions, just make sure you're protected. Its a Buyers Beware, or Caveat Emptor world out there ;)

[bubble.tea]

... I would want phone number and personal info.
Even then my fellow former RFD Trader :), I'd be weary even if I had all that info. What would you do if they ended up screwing you? The info is useless unless you're willing to drive to their city, and file in small claims. :(

I bought my laptop on RFD from a new user with 25 posts and no feedback. He agreed to ship to me in return for a small deposit on the computer......Just be careful and you'll be ok. If a new user is not willing to compromise on shipping/etc, don't go through with the deal.
Exactly. compromise. If someone is honestly after a good trade, they'll indulge your fancy.

i purchased my laptop off of a newbie RFDer.

It was a local deal though and I fully inspected everything. He even had receipts with addresses and I met up with him at his workplace.

I personally wouldn't do it if it was shipped. Local only.
Always honest people who hear of RFD, and figure if they're in a jam with an impulse buy they want out of, they'll register as a n00b and get rid of it. Nothing ill-intended, so locals you're lucky to scoop up these trades.


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I personally as a buyer will NOT, pay up front to anybody below 10~15positive 100% feedback depending on the value of the item. I was scammed once before and the lesson remains fresh in my mind. It has made me a keen RFDer to the point that I most recently put together a group buy to the tune of $3400CAD for 11 units of a sexy cellphone at a SPANKING discount. It's just too risky these days. I like the compromise aspect of putting down a deposit. I strongly feel however, that if the buyer is an established trader, and the seller isn't, the buyer shouldn't have to put anything down, as their reputation is their BOND. Problem is with n00b's they don't realize how valuable the reputation is alone and insist on cash regardless.

I have a question, and I'm sorry if it appears to be a thread-jack...but what are the opinions about a trader that is established...but along the way has received a negative eval??? How does that bear in? I shudder to ever conceive of me failing to assure a positive eval post-trade, so I find it equally difficult to understand how someone could screw something up and not secure a positive one at the end of the day :(?

[Allstarplaya546]

Everyone has to start somewhere I guess, but for sure I would only do local meet ups and what not, like the other guys have been saying!

[jtcb]

Yes if the seller is local. Otherwise, I would ask the seller to ship first if the buyer has more feedback.

[darkprince]

I only deal locally. As shipping is a hassel.

True Story:

So far all my transaction were in person. But there was this 1 time i posted for a iphone. Instantly got PM from a seller that was selling it for 460$ ask about information about the product then started to make arrangements. I mention that i would like to inspect to see the product first b4 i hand over the money. Since i have been the seller 95% of all my transactions that wat i offer the buyer is "inspect then pay". In this case the seller tells me to pay him half first then he'll let me see the product. I am thinking "wth? i have to paid half to inspect the product" then i thought to make it ezier for both of us. I told him that he should open the product and show me that it works. Like what happens if i do pay you half and i open it the product doesn't work and you claim that i broke it and you holding half my money. That you hv no intention in giving it back afterwards b/c you accuse me breaking your product which was already broken to begin with.

Seller then tells me how he try to do a deal with some guy the other day and that his buyer tried to rob him. =S He tries to tell me to meet at a parking lot for the exchange. I prefer public places its a iphone not 1kilo of cocaine or weed i don't see the point. Then he offers to meet at timmy but i had to pay him the full amount then he goes get product. I am like wtf!? first half now full payment. Guess what happens next he tries to pressure me by telling me he has another potiential buyer that he needs me to confirm it now.

"FCUK man! good luck then i want the phone but i don't want it that bad!"

[bubble.tea]

Just curious.

RFDer with ZERO RFD feedback, but well established Fleabay Feedback.

Good enough to trade with?


OH OH OH...this is my pet peeve....some n00b Ass RFDer wants to buy something from me., but won't pay first, and wants me to ship first :rolleyes:. WTF is that all about? Yeah, I'm really gonna throw out $400 on a NOBODY, just because you have x Fleabay feedback....Uhhhh-NO.

[CobraYu]

Just curious.

RFDer with ZERO RFD feedback, but well established Fleabay Feedback.

Good enough to trade with?


OH OH OH...this is my pet peeve....some n00b Ass RFDer wants to buy something from me., but won't pay first, and wants me to ship first :rolleyes:. WTF is that all about? Yeah, I'm really gonna throw out $400 on a NOBODY, just because you have x Fleabay feedback....Uhhhh-NO.


IMO, i wouldnt trade with. eBay feedback can be from anything, and personally i tend to buy only cheap accessories like chargers or headphones off ebay, rarely anything over $100. With some things being traded on RFD, the value is a lot higher, so i personally dont really count eBay feedback.

RFD/Heat is more important to me.

[bubble.tea]

...... i tend to buy only cheap accessories like chargers or headphones off ebay, rarely anything over $100. .....

This is actually a VERY SOLID reason, which I am similarly aware of and for which find ebay feedback to lose the VALUE it has with heatware, and RFD feedback.

[C_4_S]

Say you wanted to buy something in BST and the seller has no or very little post amount, no heatware/ebay record and no BST review, what would you do ? Lets say buying from an other seller is not an option and the amount is $4-500.

New sellers with zero (or very little feedback) should initially stick to "buying" on eBay. Build up some time and positive feedback thru purchases and then slowly wade into selling. Start with a few low value items and build from there!

I get a kick out of someone selling an $8000 ATV or something on eBay with no feedback and having been a member for 3 whole days! What are they thinking??? :|

[nitro0610]

Say you wanted to buy something in BST and the seller has no or very little post amount, no heatware/ebay record and no BST review, what would you do ? Lets say buying from an other seller is not an option and the amount is $4-500.

man....I'm in the same boat as you are my friend!! I'm stuck in no man's land right now w/ the seller located in montreal/quebec and I'm here in toronto!! Really need to get the sale but I'm afraid to send money first since he's also a newbie w/ no feedback and not even ebay record!! =/

and being a newbie myself of course he won't ship the item before it's paid in full. I just wish there's some way to compromise so we're both protected and everyone's happy!!

urghh....time's running short for me and I'm getting desperate!!

[GBA]

only suggestion i have at this point is maybe do it escrow with an rfder that is able to help you, is willing to, and is reliable/well known. But you run a risk of a third party holding onto your side of the cash and his side of the items. Still, for anybody with low/no feedback, it's pretty hard to get started on any deals requiring shipping. good luck with taht, nitro

[nwarrior]

I guess its alright for a smaller amount because everyone starts off as a newbie:D loll... but yea you should be very cautious and only if its local. Nver send out the money.

[nitro0610]

thanx for your advice GBA!!

unfortunately, this seller won't ship the item until money is received or he just wanna deal with locals. Guess the sale is off cuz there's just no way around it!! boo for me! =(



only suggestion i have at this point is maybe do it escrow with an rfder that is able to help you, is willing to, and is reliable/well known. But you run a risk of a third party holding onto your side of the cash and his side of the items. Still, for anybody with low/no feedback, it's pretty hard to get started on any deals requiring shipping. good luck with taht, nitro