anyone got fined before for not shoveling the snow?

[kingfencer]

I got a fat neighbour 2 doors down she didn't shovel and and saw a cop pull up to her house and walk towards her door. then 30 minutes later, she started to shovel, everyone in the street shoveld but her, anyone know the fine amount?

[Daemar]

helps if we know where you are...

In Edmonton, it's an $80 fine for each occurrence. You have 1 week after a snowfall to clear the snow and ice.

Fines are only issued if someone complains. You get one warning letter per season.

[skyblue12]

helps if we know where you are...

In Edmonton, it's an $80 fine for each occurrence. You have 1 week after a snowfall to clear the snow and ice.

Fines are only issued if someone complains. You get one warning letter per season.

1 week? that long? wow :|

[Azxster]

Who do I call to report the a-holes that aim their snowblowers to the roadway?

[aforgetit]

helps if we know where you are...

In Edmonton, it's an $80 fine for each occurrence. You have 1 week after a snowfall to clear the snow and ice.

Fines are only issued if someone complains. You get one warning letter per season.


Her neighbours must hate her.

[NDman]

Who do I call to report the a-holes that aim their snowblowers to the roadway?

Call your local bylaws

[kingfencer]

holy crap, you guys get 1 week... by that time, a hobo could be burried in snow and you don't know.

[laptop-tech]

good question.

There's a house down the road here that NEVER had any snow removed all winter so far.

The snow (now ice) on the sidewalk is about 10 cm high, but shortly after snowfalls reaches as high as a foot and the guy NEVER touched it.

[hightechfan]

good question.

There's a house down the road here that NEVER had any snow removed all winter so far.

The snow (now ice) on the sidewalk is about 10 cm high, but shortly after snowfalls reaches as high as a foot and the guy NEVER touched it.

1)The side walk is city property.So it is up to the city to take care of it.

2)In ottawa it is a $500 fine if you shovel the snow on to the road.

[BlueX]

1)The side walk is city property.So it is up to the city to take care of it.



But if the sidewalk is right in front of your house, you are responsible to shovel that snow. If someone falls and complain, somebody will fine you

[laptop-tech]

1)The side walk is city property.So it is up to the city to take care of it.

2)In ottawa it is a $500 fine if you shovel the snow on to the road.

hummm... I thought the sidewalk in front of a house was the owner's responsibility...

http://www.mississauga.ca/ecity/download/?repositoryKey=Ecity&itemDesc=file&dataName=data&mimeTypeName=mimeType&id=4200163

(search for "snow")

[chickenbones]

1)The side walk is city property.So it is up to the city to take care of it.


You are wrong like the others above already pointed out.

[Riley Martin]

I always thought the idea of people getting sued for slipping on your sidewalk becuase you didn't shovel it is stupid.

If someone littered a candy wrapper onto the sidewalk in front of my house can they sue me for slipping on the candy wrapper?

[skyblue12]

I always thought the idea of people getting sued for slipping on your sidewalk becuase you didn't shovel it.

If someone littered a candy wrapper onto the sidewalk in front of my house can they sue me for slipping on the candy wrapper?

what kind of candy wrapper would make u slip on the floor in the first place -_-

[suelee3]

Apparently, the city of Toronto fines you if you don't shovel the snow. It's part of their bylaw. The city fines the residents as the city no longer spends the money shovelling the sidewalk snow.

However, should someone get injured and sue... they would sue the city, as it is technically the city property.

Apparently the city of Toronto has decided not to pay for any liability insurance for injuries from slippery sidewalks ..... as our very smart and extremely highly paid councillors and mayor decided it was too costly.

However, the city tries to prevent lawsuits by preventing injury, by essentially getting their residents to shovel "their section" of the sidewalk. And if the resident doesn't, the city can fine the resident. (Sounds like a slippery slope argument to me - in more than one way - pun intended).

Kind of a cheap arse method (excuse the language) and irresponsible method of avoiding lawsuits and claims. Ultimately the city of Toronto residents shovel and heave the snow, and ultimately it's on the taxpayer's back if someone sues and wins.

I only know this info cause it was covered on CP24 or something or other a few years ago.

I guess this is one of the lovely "perks" :mad: that have passed down to us little folks since the amalgamation of the city of Toronto and the downloading of provincial budget cuts. yaay.

[Riley Martin]

what kind of candy wrapper would make u slip on the floor in the first place -_-There are freak accidents in this world. I could have said banana peel. I'm sure you get my point.

[suelee3]

I always thought the idea of people getting sued for slipping on your sidewalk becuase you didn't shovel it is stupid.

If someone littered a candy wrapper onto the sidewalk in front of my house can they sue me for slipping on the candy wrapper?

no - from what I understand, the sidewalk IS city property.

Just like the city can dig up the sidewalk whenever they please (as it's their property)....

anyone injured on city property sues the city (not you).

[gei]

I guess this is one of the lovely "perks" :mad: that have passed down to us little folks since the amalgamation of the city of Toronto and the downloading of provincial budget cuts. yaay.

- If people would get off their lazy asses and shovel their sidewalks, this wouldn't be an issue.

- If people would actually make an effort to walk carefully on ice, instead of like an idiot, this wouldn't be an issue.

- If people realized falling on ice was their own dumb fault and decided not to sue the city out of greed, this wouldn't be an issue.

Stop blaming the government for everything.

[Byrns]

helps if we know where you are...

In Edmonton, it's an $80 fine for each occurrence. You have 1 week after a snowfall to clear the snow and ice.

Fines are only issued if someone complains. You get one warning letter per season.

It's 48 hours in Edmonton not a week, and the fine is $85. In Calgary its only 24 hours after the snow stops.

Bylaw# 5590: Property owners are responsible for removing all snow and ice from City sidewalks adjacent to their property within 48 hours of the snow being deposited.

http://www.edmonton.ca/portal/server.pt/gateway/PTARGS_0_0_263_209_0_43/http%3B/CMSServer/COEWeb/bylaws/bylaws+by+number/

[skyblue12]

^^ i THOUGHT that a week was a bit ridiculous.. within a week the snow can melt or there could be another snow-storm -_-

[rc51]

It's 48 hours in Edmonton not a week, and the fine is $85. In Calgary its only 24 hours after the snow stops.



And I think in Calgary, the city gets the snow cleared and then they send you the bill in the mail :)

[gman]

You are wrong like the others above already pointed out.

Not necessary wrong. Different city has different bylaw.

no - from what I understand, the sidewalk IS city property.

Just like the city can dig up the sidewalk whenever they please (as it's their property)....

anyone injured on city property sues the city (not you).

Sidewalk is city property but depends on the bylaw, it can be your responsibility. Although you don't own it, it does not mean you are not responsible.

I think in GTA, you have 12 hours to clean it up after snow fall.

[ElvaSoShexai]

- If people realized falling on ice was their own dumb fault and decided not to sue the city out of greed, this wouldn't be an issue.


falling on ice isn't always the own person's fault...
no matter how careful... sometimes... u just can't see the ice... (black ice/covered) or u just slip cause... like ice on incline
i kno sum1 that broke their arm falling on ice... like 2yrs ago
...although they didn't sue the management of the townhouse area that was supposed to get it taken care of... i think they should;ve done something tho

[Initial_C]

perhaps this law is different depending on which city you live in?
ie: if it's your responsibility or not and how long you have.

cause I know for Toronto, it USED to be city's responsibility but now it's the owner's responsibility to clear the sidewalk on your property. They don't care about your driveway obviously but the sidewalk must be cleared. I think you only get 24 or 48 days in Toronto too. I'm not sure if this is true though. But I somehow remember hearing that once. It's also why if you fall on the sidewalk in front of the person's house and they didn't shovel it, you could sue them for negligence or something. I recall seeing this on TV too. The government will sometimes help out during big storms and shovel it for you but it is ultimately the owner's responsibility. at least this is true for Scarborough-Toronto where I live and probably Metro Toronto as well. Not sure about GTA though.

[Becks]

I am glad someone complained about a neighbour who didn't shovel. It's not fair for seniors or whoever's walking on the sidewalk and slip. My mom slipped this past winter and she's still suffering. If you can't shovel, at least get some salt. Some people are just lazy asses. Thank goodness there's a law for this.

[CSK'sMom]

Every city we have ever lived in has had a bylaw requiring that sidewalks be shovelled. I happen to agree with Becks, people that don't are lazy asses that should be fined heavily IMHO. I don't walk when there is snow on the ground because I can't do it safely thanks to those that won't shovel!

Most cities also have bylaws requiring that boulevard grass be cut. Our neighborhood is having issues with 1 household on this issue. The house is at an intersection directly across from a park! The grass can get high enough to obscure a child crossing the street but the idiot refuses to cut it. Usually the city ends up doing it once or twice a year and bills the owner on their property taxes. :lol: