Nintendo Wii Outsells PS3 2-to-1 in January 2007

[asot24]

"Nintendo Wii Tops PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 in January (Update1)
By Michael White

Feb. 20 (Bloomberg) -- Nintendo Co.'s Wii outsold Sony Corp.'s PlayStation 3 and Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360 during January as consumers bought 436,000 of the video-game consoles.

Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360 was the second-most purchased machine with sales of 294,000, followed by PlayStation 3 with 244,000, Credit Suisse analyst Heath Terry said today in a report, citing NPD Group Inc. data.

Wii is outselling PlayStation 3 by almost 2-to-1, the report said. Consumers have been attracted to Wii's price, at half the cost of the least-expensive PlayStation 3, and a wireless controller that can be swung like a bat or tennis racquet during play.

Both Wii and PlayStation 3 were introduced in November as competitors to the Xbox 360, which was released in 2005. Wii's $250 price tag compares to $499 and $599 for the PlayStation 3. The Xbox 360 sells for $299 and $399.

Wii sales fell from 604,000 units in December, the smallest drop of the three consoles, Terry wrote. The Xbox 360 had the biggest decline, dropping from 1.13 million units while PlayStation 3 sales declined from 491,000.

PlayStation 3 includes a Blu-ray DVD player that allows users to watch movies in a high-definition format, in addition to playing games. Production snags with the player created supply problems during the holiday shopping season, forcing Sony to concede market share to Wii."


PS3 is in serious trouble IMO. PS3 are rotting on store shelves while Wii's are hard to come by.

[Jon Lai]

Microsoft sold 1.13 million XBOXes in December? That's quite hard to believe.

[pfdude]

Microsoft sold 1.13 million XBOXes in December? That's quite hard to believe.

The numbers are based on shipments, not items sold. But in the case of the Wii, all units shipped were most likely sold.

[crimsona]

Microsoft moved the greatest number units for FS/BBY over Xmas. By quite a margin too

[navsimpson]

Okay, great. But we can start a rumour of some sort - say, the Wii causes cancer - so people *stop* buying them and I can find the bloody thing!

[pfdude]

Okay, great. But we can start a rumour of some sort - say, the Wii causes cancer - so people *stop* buying them and I can find the bloody thing!

I'm assuming you're using the consolewatch and check4change tools? I was able to score two of them within a week (FS never shipped the first one I scored so I cancelled my order a week later after I scored a second one from BB.. so don't hurt me )

[Strummer12]

"Ah you'll have no problem picking up a Wii when it launches as Nintendo will be shipping enough systems and it will probably be overshadowed by PS3" - Everyone.

ROFL.

[Cacti]

"Ah you'll have no problem picking up a Wii when it launches as Nintendo will be shipping enough systems and it will probably be overshadowed by PS3" - Everyone.

ROFL.

:lol:

[pfdude]

"Ah you'll have no problem picking up a Wii when it launches as Nintendo will be shipping enough systems and it will probably be overshadowed by PS3" - Everyone.

ROFL.

So true LOL! Even I thought I could walk into any store and buy a Wii.. boy was I ever wrong ;)

[Firestorm]

The numbers are based on shipments, not items sold. But in the case of the Wii, all units shipped were most likely sold.

no. npd = sold not shipped

[Xenon420]

why is it hard to believe the 360 sold soooo much?????


I have all 3 systems and the 360 is my fav by a LONG SHOT!!!!!!!!!!!

My fav games are:

NHL 07...best NHL game ever made...yes better then NHL 94 for Super Nintendo
Gears Of War...very fun online(co-op mode)
Rainbow Six Vegas....SICK
Saints Row....just like GTA but BETTER
Call Of Duty 2 & 3....great shooter


other good games: NBA 2k7, Madden 07, Fifia 07, Hitman Blood Money

I can't wait for MLB 2k7 next week it looks sick

[reptar]

most of those 360's don't work and had to be returned to stores, best buy ends up selling them to mdg and factory direct.

[Lanella]

I'm assuming you're using the consolewatch and check4change tools? I was able to score two of them within a week (FS never shipped the first one I scored so I cancelled my order a week later after I scored a second one from BB.. so don't hurt me )

I've personally tried to use check4change but I work 9-5 Monday to Friday and it's almost impossible for me to find one because I am never home when FS or BB get stock in :mad:

So fustrating!!

[tzinc]

Remember the 360 was the ONLY system that was easily available in Dec. Now the PS3 is also easily avialble. The WII still is not.

The PS2 actually also outsold the 360 in January.

[jeffyjaixx]

So the point of this thread is to say how much better the society thinks of the Wii or... am I missing something?

[diabolical7]

iunno its getting stupid with all this whats good and crap... unless u own like all 3 systems then really u are pretty much a fanboy...

not everyone can afford a ps3/360 which translates into slow sales, this is where nintendo was smart to throw out an affordable system... but i must admit its still a party system than a system for individual players...

[reptar]

iunno its getting stupid with all this whats good and crap... unless u own like all 3 systems then really u are pretty much a fanboy...

not everyone can afford a ps3/360 which translates into slow sales, this is where nintendo was smart to throw out an affordable system... but i must admit its still a party system than a system for individual players...

after you buy all the controllers, component cables, and considering that nintendo games (the good ones) rarely go on sale it isn't that "affordable"

i own both the 360 and wii btw. i like the 360 more because of the games but it's so sensitive that i wouldn't buy one without the extended warranty. the wii is really over rated imo a lot of people just want it cause it's in demand.

[Cacti]

the wii is really over rated imo a lot of people just want it cause it's in demand.

Wiis are like iPods.Very over rated and sell like hot cakes.

[akito925]

I've personally tried to use check4change but I work 9-5 Monday to Friday and it's almost impossible for me to find one because I am never home when FS or BB get stock in :mad:

So fustrating!!

I'm in the same shoes.. for me to get a chance to get one is to take a day off.. even thou it doesn't guarentee me a wii. so taking a day would be a waste because I could be making money instead of running around.. I'll just wait till wiis are more in stock when you can walk into a store where there are 1000's to buy.

[reptar]

Wiis are like iPods.Very over rated and sell like hot cakes.

i hate to see everyone's faces when they first see zelda tp on the wii. i don't know how it got decent scores for graphics.

[bly]

Not surprised that the wii is the best seller. Just looking at the GTA alone, you can see this.

However, I'm not surprised that the 360 sold so many units in December. A lot of parents could not find a PS3 or wii and thus resorted to the 360 in which supply was plentiful. Nonethless, I only own a wii because I don't have an HDTV. Don't see the point of getting a PS3 or 360 until I could maximize its value.

Which brings me to the question, how many of you 360/PS3 owners have an HDTV?

[scath]

after you buy all the controllers, component cables, and considering that nintendo games (the good ones) rarely go on sale it isn't that "affordable"

The same could be said for the PS3 or Xbox 360 on pretty much all counts.

Wii Console $279.99
Extra Controller $24.99
1 Game $59.99
Total: $364.99

PS3 Console $699.99
Extra Contoller $59.99
1 Game $69.99
Total: $829.97

[Whiplash7828]

It all comes down to what kind of gamer you are :!:

Up until 3 weeks ago I owned a 360 and played it here and there. I'm no hardcore gamer. I played mainly NHL07 and COD3. The graphics are great but the system is very un-reliable. I had mine break several times and needed to send it back to MS for repair.

In my opinion, if you are a hardcore gamer (and by that I mean one that plays over 10h per week) and always needs the latest and greatest performance to be satisfied then clearly the only choice is a 360 or PS3.
If you are a casual gamer (as I have become over the years), like the platform games just as much as the hardcore run and gun games, like to play with family and friends more than by yourself or online and could care less about graphics because you still get a great thrill out of playing Mario Bros 1 and 3 then the Wii is right up your alley!

To me, the Wii vs PS3/360 debate is like comparing apples and oranges. The systems are not targeted to the same type of gamer.

For me
Graphics: PS3/360
Online play: PS3/360
Best bang for your buck: Wii
Best "platformer": Wii
Best party system: Wii
Nostalgia: Wii

[bly]

To me, the Wii vs PS3/360 debate is like comparing apples and oranges. The systems are not targeted to the same type of gamer.

I disagree. All consoles are in competition with each other because there is only one category for video gamers, and that's "video gamers." If these consoles are so different, why is Madden 07 made for all three? How about Marvel Ultimate Alliance?

[Whiplash7828]

I disagree. All consoles are in competition with each other because there is only one category for video gamers, and that's "video gamers." If these consoles are so different, why is Madden 07 made for all three? How about Marvel Ultimate Alliance?

Fair enough...but we'll have to agree to disagree on that. ;)

[Jaytee]

For me
Online play: PS3/360


What games for PS3 are good online?

[Supershyguy]

Okay, great. But we can start a rumour of some sort - say, the Wii causes cancer - so people *stop* buying them and I can find the bloody thing!

some guy is still a unit at cost on the for sale forum right now

[Whiplash7828]

What games for PS3 are good online?

I'm putting those two systems together (PS3/360)...I have no clue about the PS3 and that is why I haven't compared anything to the PS3 specifically. My understanding is that Sony will develop a community similar to XBOX Live and therefore for Online Gameplay those two systems are/will be better suited than Wii.....but you knew what I meant. ;)

[Supershyguy]

why is it hard to believe the 360 sold soooo much?????


I have all 3 systems and the 360 is my fav by a LONG SHOT!!!!!!!!!!!

My fav games are:

NHL 07...best NHL game ever made...yes better then NHL 94 for Super Nintendo
Gears Of War...very fun online(co-op mode)
Rainbow Six Vegas....SICK
Saints Row....just like GTA but BETTER
Call Of Duty 2 & 3....great shooter


other good games: NBA 2k7, Madden 07, Fifia 07, Hitman Blood Money

I can't wait for MLB 2k7 next week it looks sick

Crack down is even better then Saints Row I think

[Toronto]

PS3 is in serious trouble IMO. PS3 are rotting on store shelves while Wii's are hard to come by.

I disagree. I'm sick of having to wave my hands around just to swing my sword in Zelda. The novelty of the Wii has totally worn off in a month and now I'm really feeling the limitations of the Wii. Many people thought the controllers would open doors, which it has, but I think it shut many in the process. For example, I'm big on RPG's so how would the Wii controller play into an RPG like Final Fantasy? (just an example). The entire game is controlled with buttons as there is usually little fast action. What if you play a fighting game like street fighter? Am I gonna have to flail my arms around non-stop for the entire fight? The PS3 has some new releases coming up in March and I'm looking very forward to some of them. As the Wii ages people will realize the limitations of the Wii both with the controller and the graphics.

[Jaytee]

My understanding is that Sony will develop a community similar to XBOX Live and therefore for Online Gameplay those two systems are/will be better suited than Wii.....but you knew what I meant. ;)

Oh, I thought you meant you were already playing PS3 games online and I wanted to know which were good. I dont even have a game for my PS3 right now let alone a online one. 360 has some awesome Xbox Live games in
Rainbow 6: Vegas, NHL 2K7 and Gears of War.

[mcgillhonger]

Wiis are like iPods.Very over rated and sell like hot cakes.

Don't forget to add very well-marketed. :D

In the end though the system speaks for itself IMO. I could go to a party where someone owns a Wii, 10 of us play it and have a blast. By the time we leave, 2-3 of them are asking us how to find one.

Initially yes people want it just because it's the hottest shiznit out there. But now it's moved into the "dahm, this system does rock... now I want one!" stage where it's the second-wave of demand that's generated from people who've seen early adopters play with the system and tried it out for themselves.

[pfdude]

I disagree. I'm sick of having to wave my hands around just to swing my sword in Zelda. The novelty of the Wii has totally worn off in a month and now I'm really feeling the limitations of the Wii. Many people thought the controllers would open doors, which it has, but I think it shut many in the process. For example, I'm big on RPG's so how would the Wii controller play into an RPG like Final Fantasy? (just an example). The entire game is controlled with buttons as there is usually little fast action. What if you play a fighting game like street fighter? Am I gonna have to flail my arms around non-stop for the entire fight? The PS3 has some new releases coming up in March and I'm looking very forward to some of them. As the Wii ages people will realize the limitations of the Wii both with the controller and the graphics.

Good thing the classic controller exists, eh? I haven't reached the lazy stage yet and I'm not sure I will. Moving your arms around is a much better stress reliever than mashing buttons. Also, moving around is a lot more realistic than your preferred gaming method.

Just imagine if only a hockey player who was having a lazy day could sit on the bench and mash buttons instead of skating. :lol:

[mcgillhonger]

I disagree. I'm sick of having to wave my hands around just to swing my sword in Zelda. The novelty of the Wii has totally worn off in a month and now I'm really feeling the limitations of the Wii. Many people thought the controllers would open doors, which it has, but I think it shut many in the process. For example, I'm big on RPG's so how would the Wii controller play into an RPG like Final Fantasy? (just an example). The entire game is controlled with buttons as there is usually little fast action. What if you play a fighting game like street fighter? Am I gonna have to flail my arms around non-stop for the entire fight? The PS3 has some new releases coming up in March and I'm looking very forward to some of them. As the Wii ages people will realize the limitations of the Wii both with the controller and the graphics.

I disagree with you though. I don't feel that the Wiimote and Nunchuk *significantly* limits game design. Just because they have motion-sensitivity, gyroscopes, and all sorts of funky gadgetry does not imply they have to be incorporated into every game being made. The same can be said for PS3's SixAxis controller and it's motion sensitivity... it's there and it's nice but do developers HAVE to use it? No, not at all.

Glue the Wiimote and Nunchuk together and what are the differences from the XBOX and Ps3 controllers?
- 2/3 fewer buttons (no L/R buttons on the Wii.. only A, B, C and Z)

If anything, I enjoy the freedom of having my hands relaxed on the sides while playing any video game.

Yes, that may present a limitation in certain genres such as fighting games where it traditionally involves 6 buttons (3 punches and 3 kicks); however, does that imply "(I'm) gonna have to flail my arms around non-stop for the entire fight"? Not in the very least. Just because the feature is there doens't mean I have to do a backflip in order to do Guile's flash kick.:lol:

I do believe the PS3 is a beautiful system that is far too ahead of its time. Yes, over time ppl will realize the graphical and technical limitations of the Wii. It is, after all, built on technology that is cheap and readily available right now (unlike the PS3). However, what's to stop Nintendo from releasing a Wii 2 about 5 years down the road? I wouldn't have a problem paying $300 for another new system. My total cost of ownership after buying both Wii's are STILL less than buying one PS3 at today's prices.

I'd rather stick with today's technology now, pay a lot less, and get a new system a few years down the road with the technology current to its time (and also pay less).

[molohdiesel]

why is it hard to believe the 360 sold soooo much?????


I have all 3 systems and the 360 is my fav by a LONG SHOT!!!!!!!!!!!

My fav games are:

NHL 07...best NHL game ever made...yes better then NHL 94 for Super Nintendo
Gears Of War...very fun online(co-op mode)
Rainbow Six Vegas....SICK
Saints Row....just like GTA but BETTER
Call Of Duty 2 & 3....great shooter


other good games: NBA 2k7, Madden 07, Fifia 07, Hitman Blood Money

I can't wait for MLB 2k7 next week it looks sick

That's quite a statement!! NHL 94 for SNES rocks!! BTW, does anyone know of a way to get this game onto the Wii?

[mcgillhonger]

That's quite a statement!! NHL 94 for SNES rocks!! BTW, does anyone know of a way to get this game onto the Wii?

I'm still waiting for Super Spike Volleyball....... AArrgh.... :D Can't wait for them to start selling most games on the VC.

[Dangard Ace]

The same could be said for the PS3 or Xbox 360 on pretty much all counts.

Wii Console $279.99
Extra Controller $24.99
1 Game $59.99
Total: $364.99

PS3 Console $699.99
Extra Contoller $59.99
1 Game $69.99
Total: $829.97

A little off.

Wii Remote: $44.99
Nunchuks: $24.99

A fully equipped Wii will cost you: $279.99 + ($44.99x4=$179.96) + (24.99x4=$99.96) + 59.99 = $619.99
assume you want classic controllers(24.99ea) and sd card (1GB = $79.99) = 99.96 + 79.99 = $799.94

PS3
$699.99 + $239.96 + $69.99 = $1009.94

Approx. $200 difference. Now figure out what the PS3 has hardware wise over the Wii and see if that difference is worth it to you. Wii has rumble and gyroscopes. PS3 has BR, DVD playback, optical audio, hdmi, harddrive. Now if only PS3 had some F'ING GAMES to play. RoM is fun but where's my R6V or Motorstorm? (EB, walmart and TRU said shipped date of 2/22 for VF5).

Wii...we'll I've finished Rayman Ravin Rabbids, got Wii Play and am playing Zelda TP (currently in City in the Sky). Damn fun party system but when I want my visual WOW-factor the PS3 comes out.

[warpdrive]

The Wii is a fun little system for games and I have a good time playing with it, but I chose the PS3 because I wanted Blu Ray player. I figure I was buying a Blu-Ray player for $659 + $40 for the remote, and getting a great gaming system (banking of its future potential). The 1080P native output feeding my 1080P HDTV is just a thing of beauty.

So far, I've paid:
$659 (no it's NOT $699, you can still grab them from sonystyle.ca, or a Sony store for the MSRP of $659 if you are patient and wait for stock)
$60 controller
$35 remote
$60 Call of Duty 3
a few movies at $23-31 each

I'll buy more games as they come down the pipe. Am looking forward to Splinter Cell, GTA, Gran Turismo and a few more all due this year

[Toronto]

Good thing the classic controller exists, eh? I haven't reached the lazy stage yet and I'm not sure I will. Moving your arms around is a much better stress reliever than mashing buttons. Also, moving around is a lot more realistic than your preferred gaming method.

Just imagine if only a hockey player who was having a lazy day could sit on the bench and mash buttons instead of skating. :lol:

The classic controller cannot be used with Wii games, only virtual console games. If I could use that for Wii games I would have absolutely no complaints. To each their own though. I personally don't feel like it's more realistic wiggling my hand in front of me to swing a sword while the sword actually swings a half second later. But for games like Wii sports the Wii controller definitely has a huge advantage.

By the way when I want to play real hockey I strap on my skates and play. When I play a video game that's the last thing I would want to do, otherwise I would just play real hockey, right?

[AlphaTwo]

The classic controller cannot be used with Wii games, only virtual console games. If I could use that for Wii games I would have absolutely no complaints.Some games can use the Classic Controller, such as DragonBall.

[pfdude]

I'm still waiting for Super Spike Volleyball....... AArrgh.... :D Can't wait for them to start selling most games on the VC.

Another vote for ssvb! Very addictive nes game.

[pfdude]

The classic controller cannot be used with Wii games, only virtual console games. If I could use that for Wii games I would have absolutely no complaints. To each their own though. I personally don't feel like it's more realistic wiggling my hand in front of me to swing a sword while the sword actually swings a half second later. But for games like Wii sports the Wii controller definitely has a huge advantage.

By the way when I want to play real hockey I strap on my skates and play. When I play a video game that's the last thing I would want to do, otherwise I would just play real hockey, right?

No, the classic controller can be used for Wii games. It's up to the developers to include it.

Yes, you could strap on some skates as that would be real life. The Wii is no substitution for real life but it feels a lot closer to reality than mashing buttons.

[scath]

if you want to be that picky..
The PS3 supports 7 controllers:
$699.99 + $419.33 + $69.99 = $1189.31

throw in the HDMI cable, remote, and you are up to $1299.29

Also the Wii includes a game the PS3 doesn't.


A little off.

Wii Remote: $44.99
Nunchuks: $24.99

A fully equipped Wii will cost you: $279.99 + ($44.99x4=$179.96) + (24.99x4=$99.96) + 59.99 = $619.99
assume you want classic controllers(24.99ea) and sd card (1GB = $79.99) = 99.96 + 79.99 = $799.94

PS3
$699.99 + $239.96 + $69.99 = $1009.94

Approx. $200 difference. Now figure out what the PS3 has hardware wise over the Wii and see if that difference is worth it to you. Wii has rumble and gyroscopes. PS3 has BR, DVD playback, optical audio, hdmi, harddrive. Now if only PS3 had some F'ING GAMES to play. RoM is fun but where's my R6V or Motorstorm? (EB, walmart and TRU said shipped date of 2/22 for VF5).

Wii...we'll I've finished Rayman Ravin Rabbids, got Wii Play and am playing Zelda TP (currently in City in the Sky). Damn fun party system but when I want my visual WOW-factor the PS3 comes out.

[Jon Lai]

The numbers are based on shipments, not items sold. But in the case of the Wii, all units shipped were most likely sold.

Thanks, that helps. It explains why Futureshop had 200+ XBOXes on Boxing Day and nobody took any :P

[Jon Lai]

Wiis are like iPods.Very over rated and sell like hot cakes.

Not to mention that it's White as well :P

[Jon Lai]

Glue the Wiimote and Nunchuk together and what are the differences from the XBOX and Ps3 controllers?
- 2/3 fewer buttons (no L/R buttons on the Wii.. only A, B, C and Z)

And the reduced amount of buttons means RPG games aren't playable on the Wii, especially since you can't comfortably use both A, B, 1, and 2 buttons together with one hand. I'll use the Nunchuck to move Cloud or Tidus or Squall around, but what happens to the L1-3, R1-3, and the two extra buttons that the Playstation controllers have?

At least, the point is that you can't play games like Final Fantasy like you can on a Playstation, however, of course, we can always hook up a classic controller.

[Toronto]

Yes, you could strap on some skates as that would be real life. The Wii is no substitution for real life but it feels a lot closer to reality than mashing buttons.

Video games are not reality to me, nor do I want them to be. If they were, why would you need to leave your house?

And the reduced amount of buttons means RPG games aren't playable on the Wii, especially since you can't comfortably use both A, B, 1, and 2 buttons together with one hand. I'll use the Nunchuck to move Cloud or Tidus or Squall around, but what happens to the L1-3, R1-3, and the two extra buttons that the Playstation controllers have?

At least, the point is that you can't play games like Final Fantasy like you can on a Playstation, however, of course, we can always hook up a classic controller.


This is the point I was trying to get across. But presently I have only heard of 1 game that supports the classic controller (Dragonball) which I don't care about.

[mcgillhonger]

And the reduced amount of buttons means RPG games aren't playable on the Wii, especially since you can't comfortably use both A, B, 1, and 2 buttons together with one hand. I'll use the Nunchuck to move Cloud or Tidus or Squall around, but what happens to the L1-3, R1-3, and the two extra buttons that the Playstation controllers have?

At least, the point is that you can't play games like Final Fantasy like you can on a Playstation, however, of course, we can always hook up a classic controller.

Lol... really? WTF, the last time I played Final Fantasy, all I needed was the A, B, X and Y buttons! Man... has it been THAT long since I played Final Fantasy III. :D

What are we at now? Final Fantasy MMXXIIIII??

True... if the latest FF DOES require a keyboard in your hand to play with, then yes there will be limitations, but nothing a smart programmer can't figure out with some clever button-mapping.... or like you said... classic controllers! :)

[pfdude]

Video games are not reality to me, nor do I want them to be. If they were, why would you need to leave your house?

I never claimed they were. I said they are closer to reality.

To go to school/work? Get some groceries?

This is the point I was trying to get across. But presently I have only heard of 1 game that supports the classic controller (Dragonball) which I don't care about.

Others are planned, it won't be rare. Don't you worry, everybody's arms can get back to being flabby again. :D

[Dangard Ace]

if you want to be that picky..
The PS3 supports 7 controllers:
$699.99 + $419.33 + $69.99 = $1189.31

throw in the HDMI cable, remote, and you are up to $1299.29

Also the Wii includes a game the PS3 doesn't.

As someone else noted PS3 is $659.99 not $699.99.

What game besides NHL2K7 would use 7 controllers on one system? But hey okay. PS3 supports up to 7 bluetooth devices. Subtract either 1 Sixaxxis or the remote.

You don't need the extra cables for playing on either system but hey for best image quality.....generic HDMI cable $20. You don't need Sony or any of those big name brand HDMI cables because the generic cable gives you the ~same quality.

Nintendo Wii Component. You need to use their proprietary connector. Wii Pro Component $40.

Free WiiSports vs Free Talledega Nights. I'd say WiiSports is a better extra but they're both "free" additions.

If you use the PS3 as Sony intended, an entertainment system it's awesome. Once some games start coming out for it that is.

Wii is a game system and for what it does it's great which is why I have both.

[pfdude]

As someone else noted PS3 is $659.99 not $699.99.


afaik, Sonystyle.ca is the only online place that is selling it for $659.99. Even amazon.ca up'd the price to 679.99.

[Toronto]

Others are planned, it won't be rare. Don't you worry, everybody's arms can get back to being flabby again. :D

If they did for all the "in between" games such as zelda that would be great. Games like Wii sports is definitely better with the current controllers. Unfortunately my arms don't flab and I'm willing to bet many people playing video games aren't like that either. Even if my arms were flabby, the Wii wouldn't change that.

[pfdude]

If they did for all the "in between" games such as zelda that would be great. Games like Wii sports is definitely better with the current controllers. Unfortunately my arms don't flab and I'm willing to bet many people playing video games aren't like that either. Even if my arms were flabby, the Wii wouldn't change that.

Maybe you can trade your copy of Zelda for the GC version? You would need a GC controller though but I'm not sure of any other differences between the versions other than widescreen and wii controls.

[Jon Lai]

afaik, Sonystyle.ca is the only online place that is selling it for $659.99. Even amazon.ca up'd the price to 679.99.

EBGames is still selling for $659.99

[Jon Lai]

Lol... really? WTF, the last time I played Final Fantasy, all I needed was the A, B, X and Y buttons! Man... has it been THAT long since I played Final Fantasy III. :D

What are we at now? Final Fantasy MMXXIIIII??

True... if the latest FF DOES require a keyboard in your hand to play with, then yes there will be limitations, but nothing a smart programmer can't figure out with some clever button-mapping.... or like you said... classic controllers! :)

Nah, just 12 :P

BTW, I just read that a sequal to FF:Crystal Chronicles will be released for the Wii. I wonder if it'll use the classic controller or have some neat way of remapping those buttons we're so used to with the Playstation controller.

[Toronto]

Maybe you can trade your copy of Zelda for the GC version? You would need a GC controller though but I'm not sure of any other differences between the versions other than widescreen and wii controls.

I briefly thought about this but i don't hate it THAT much. Besides I've put in about 15 hours so far so I really wouldn't wanna restart. I'll tough it out :razz:

[pfdude]

EBGames is still selling for $659.99

It was $699.99 at the last one I visited

[Jon Lai]

It was $699.99 at the last one I visited

It was $659.99 the last time I went. EBGames HQ also announced themselves that they will keep the lower price just over a month ago, or a week after Futureshop first jacked up the price.

[deacon]

thats right, ps3 is in serious trouble - xbox's rule the day! were talking a $200 price difference here!

[diouf]

what $699 for a xbox - thats way too much!:razz:

[mcgillhonger]

Nah, just 12 :P

BTW, I just read that a sequal to FF:Crystal Chronicles will be released for the Wii. I wonder if it'll use the classic controller or have some neat way of remapping those buttons we're so used to with the Playstation controller.

Woo... FF for the Wii! Honestly though... I was completely disappointed with CC for the GC. It was just a letdown IMO... too easy, too linear, and, it didn't have the classic FF feel to it.

Yah, the artwork, graphics and characters are done beautifully, but I'm looking for gameplay over looks.

Let's hope the Wii's FF will follow more along the lines of the classic FF style...

[Rx-87]

I disagree with you though. I don't feel that the Wiimote and Nunchuk *significantly* limits game design. Just because they have motion-sensitivity, gyroscopes, and all sorts of funky gadgetry does not imply they have to be incorporated into every game being made. The same can be said for PS3's SixAxis controller and it's motion sensitivity... it's there and it's nice but do developers HAVE to use it? No, not at all.

Glue the Wiimote and Nunchuk together and what are the differences from the XBOX and Ps3 controllers?
- 2/3 fewer buttons (no L/R buttons on the Wii.. only A, B, C and Z)

If anything, I enjoy the freedom of having my hands relaxed on the sides while playing any video game.

Yes, that may present a limitation in certain genres such as fighting games where it traditionally involves 6 buttons (3 punches and 3 kicks); however, does that imply "(I'm) gonna have to flail my arms around non-stop for the entire fight"? Not in the very least. Just because the feature is there doens't mean I have to do a backflip in order to do Guile's flash kick.:lol:

I do believe the PS3 is a beautiful system that is far too ahead of its time. Yes, over time ppl will realize the graphical and technical limitations of the Wii. It is, after all, built on technology that is cheap and readily available right now (unlike the PS3). However, what's to stop Nintendo from releasing a Wii 2 about 5 years down the road? I wouldn't have a problem paying $300 for another new system. My total cost of ownership after buying both Wii's are STILL less than buying one PS3 at today's prices.

I'd rather stick with today's technology now, pay a lot less, and get a new system a few years down the road with the technology current to its time (and also pay less).

Well said, this was pretty much what I had in mind but was summed up nicely by you LOL.

Kudos:lol:

[Rx-87]

The classic controller cannot be used with Wii games, only virtual console games. If I could use that for Wii games I would have absolutely no complaints. To each their own though. I personally don't feel like it's more realistic wiggling my hand in front of me to swing a sword while the sword actually swings a half second later. But for games like Wii sports the Wii controller definitely has a huge advantage.

By the way when I want to play real hockey I strap on my skates and play. When I play a video game that's the last thing I would want to do, otherwise I would just play real hockey, right?

Umm... have you checked out DBZ Tenkaichi budokai 2 for wii? ?

One can use the classic controller attached to the remote to play. . . so it doesn't necessary have to be for "virtual console games"

In fact, i'm starting to believe that most of the "fighting and some sport games" may incorporate the classic controller as a viable option, as playing with the remote & nunchuk is quite tedious in these types of games.

As I am currently finding out with DBZ budokai tenkaichi 2. . swing nunchuk to dash ... point remote here.. to do this.. lol .. BUT! It'll probably be rewarding once I master the controls. .

As was the case with Red Steel, where like many have discussed was a poorly developed game in terms of plot/graphics/gameplay. . but I found that once I developed a sense for movement & shooting. . . the game became a breeze and it was really fun pinpointing enemies and obliterating them loL.

[Jon Lai]

Woo... FF for the Wii! Honestly though... I was completely disappointed with CC for the GC. It was just a letdown IMO... too easy, too linear, and, it didn't have the classic FF feel to it.

Yah, the artwork, graphics and characters are done beautifully, but I'm looking for gameplay over looks.

Let's hope the Wii's FF will follow more along the lines of the classic FF style...

+1 about the original FF:CC

I checked out some screens, and they look like the kiddish kinds like in CC :( Hopefully they twist it a bit though, I mean, FF9 was not too bad even with the kiddish characters :P

[AlphaTwo]

+1 about the original FF:CC

I checked out some screens, and they look like the kiddish kinds like in CC :( Hopefully they twist it a bit though, I mean, FF9 was not too bad even with the kiddish characters :PKiddish characters?

Geez, I hate to ask what you think of FF1-6.