What is the best router for bittorrent?

[Super strokey]

I have a WRT54g right now and its a fine router till you get bittorrent going. THere are too many connections and the router just doesnt like that. Does anyone know of a router that is better suited to this? I will need something fast and this is for a hardline but i do have a few laptops that use it wirelessly but they dont use bittorrent.

[aZnDeViLbOi]

as long as u port foward it does matter there is summ "torrent router" but those are in the hundreds

[Super strokey]

as long as u port foward it does matter there is summ "torrent router" but those are in the hundreds


Tried that, its a known issue with them i guess... not to happy about it. Ill try again but what other suggestions do you have? I download so much i dont mind spending a good amount of coin to get a really good one.

[tdotcbc84]

yeah i was wondering the same thing !

however, my DLINK 524 has been doing well with bittorrents!

won't give me the fastest speeds, but at least i won't need to restart !

[wonton1017]

If you use wireless, dont get the DI-624. (Although i get a good speed...)

I use it, and i hate it. It disconnects even though i configure it properly, it overheats and drops the connection of wireless users.

So i decided to plug the router into a switch, so that i use the wired and my family use the wireless, since they dont play games and they rarely use it.

I recommend getting a Trendnet or a Linksys. (Heard Linksys had problems too, i dont know)

[Super strokey]

If you use wireless, dont get the DI-624. (Although i get a good speed...)

I use it, and i hate it. It disconnects even though i configure it properly, it overheats and drops the connection of wireless users.

So i decided to plug the router into a switch, so that i use the wired and my family use the wireless, since they dont play games and they rarely use it.

I recommend getting a Trendnet or a Linksys. (Heard Linksys had problems too, i dont know)

Yeah im on a linksys at the moment. Im trying to remember the name of the routers that are specifically designed for torrents, they have like a built in hdd or something. One was asus or linksys i cant remember. Any?

[aZnDeViLbOi]

fet the 108mp ones... and upgrade ur LAN if its 10/100 get 10/1000 its the difference if u use wired connection

[Super strokey]

fet the 108mp ones... and upgrade ur LAN if its 10/100 get 10/1000 its the difference if u use wired connection


ok noob question time, is it better to use my nvidia integrated ethernet port or the marvell one? I have a asus a8n32-sli if that makes a difference

[wonton1017]

ok noob question time, is it better to use my nvidia integrated ethernet port or the marvell one? I have a asus a8n32-sli if that makes a difference

Their pretty much the same, use the one with more mbit/s, Gigabit (1000mbit) is better than 100mbit..duh.. xD

It all depends on your router, if your router supports Gigabit, then Gigabit would be better.

When i say better, i mean it would be better when you transfer files in your network... Otherwise, they would perform about the same when you download and surf the net etc...

[aZnDeViLbOi]

ok noob question time, is it better to use my nvidia integrated ethernet port or the marvell one? I have a asus a8n32-sli if that makes a difference

your motherboard is pretty new it looks like u have the gigabite one...

go here find ur router and do the steps it helped me...

http://portforward.com/

i havae a suky trendnet wireless-g and my speeds are only 10-20 kbs... when there was no router i go 200 kbs... good days.... good days....

[tubs]

I have a WRT54g right now and its a fine router till you get bittorrent going. THere are too many connections and the router just doesnt like that. Does anyone know of a router that is better suited to this? I will need something fast and this is for a hardline but i do have a few laptops that use it wirelessly but they dont use bittorrent.

I'd stick with your WRT54G and flash it to a third party firmware such as DD-WRT.

With a third party firmware, you can adjust the maximum number of ports and the time that a connection is dropped if it stops responding. You can also limit the number of connections your client makes.

I had this problem too with my WRT54G & BitComet where if I put the cap on connections at 100, it would almost be non-responsive. With the above mentioned fix, I tried 800 connections + my bro on World of Warcraft with no problems.

Here, read up on this link for more details:

WRT54G DD-WRT Router_Slowdown (http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Router_Slowdown)

[maniacshopper]

I'd stick with your WRT54G and flash it to a third party firmware such as DD-WRT.

With a third party firmware, you can adjust the maximum number of ports and the time that a connection is dropped if it stops responding. You can also limit the number of connections your client makes.

I had this problem too with my WRT54G & BitComet where if I put the cap on connections at 100, it would almost be non-responsive. With the above mentioned fix, I tried 800 connections + my bro on World of Warcraft with no problems.

Here, read up on this link for more details:

WRT54G DD-WRT Router_Slowdown (http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Router_Slowdown)


I agree. I used to have the stock flash, BT kept killing my connections, required a rest. Not only that, I couldn't surf with 2 downloads.

After flashing with a third party firmware, now I can surf with 2 downloads at the same time. You can adjust the wireless power transmitter as well.
Linksys and Dlink are the only routers I'd ever consider buying.

[CodecX81]

keep in mind that if you are wireless and only have an 102.11b router, anything over a regular broadband internet connection will be useless to you.

The maximum bandwidth of 802.11b is 11mb (1375k/sec max) Once you factor in all the overhead etc for the connection, the maximum download speed caps off at 375k/sec (about 3mb)..so you are literally wasting money on anything higher.

Always know your bandwidth values for your upload speed. its the leading cause of choked internet. Take your value and divide by 10.

(Or the long way.. divide by 8 to convert bits into bytes and subtract 20% of that to allow for overhead)

With 800k upload your max upload should be set to 80k/sec
with 320k upload, your max upload should be set to 32k/sec..

You get the idea.
With this setup, I have a server whose constantly torrenting and I never feel internet slow down with my actual PC, since I am allowing room for my download speed to be unaffected.


its also a good idea to update your network drivers and use wired whenever possible.


Aside from that... a few months ago, I upgraded to a WBR-1310 from a MN-500 router, I connect to it wired and I've never had a problem with either of them. I torrent pretty heavily too.

The WBR-1310 is 44.99@bestbuy. Good luck everyone!

[Derringdo]

Like others have said, look into a third party firmware for your WRT54G. Find out which version it is and then download the appropriate firmware. I recommend either DD-WRT (more complicated setup process) or HyperWRT Thibor. uTorrent's FAQ has a good section on fixing WRT54G routers to work properly with torrents: link (http://utorrent.com/faq.php#Special_note_for_users_with_Linksys_WRT54G _GL_GS_routers)

[CdTriX]

buy an old P3 computer and install IPCOP on it. Make sure the P3 has a second NIC...

Buy some junky router with wireless and disable DHCP.

Voila!

a router that wont get overloaded because it has 32 megs of ram! And wont always need a reboot..

Mind you, you'll need to know a little bit of linux

[BB88]

buy an old P3 computer and install IPCOP on it. Make sure the P3 has a second NIC...

Buy some junky router with wireless and disable DHCP.

Voila!

a router that wont get overloaded because it has 32 megs of ram! And wont always need a reboot..

Mind you, you'll need to know a little bit of linux

man that sounds too complicated

[ShadowVlican]

buy an old P3 computer and install IPCOP on it. Make sure the P3 has a second NIC...

Buy some junky router with wireless and disable DHCP.

Voila!

a router that wont get overloaded because it has 32 megs of ram! And wont always need a reboot..

Mind you, you'll need to know a little bit of linux
using an old computer as router is a good idea and certainly gives you an insanely powerful router

but what about your electric bill... :lol: (not to mention like BB88 said, it's not for everyone to setup)

while i don't have a specific router model in mind, i must say that utorrent is "kinder" to my router than azureus (for unknown reasons, I HAVE TESTED.)

[Kwirky]

Like others have said, look into a third party firmware for your WRT54G. Find out which version it is and then download the appropriate firmware. I recommend either DD-WRT (more complicated setup process) or HyperWRT Thibor. uTorrent's FAQ has a good section on fixing WRT54G routers to work properly with torrents: link (http://utorrent.com/faq.php#Special_note_for_users_with_Linksys_WRT54G _GL_GS_routers)

This is definately the best option. Using DD-WRT on my WRT54GS I can peak at upto 1MByte/sec :D

[Starcraftjunkie]

That's assuming he doesn't have the crappy v5 version of the WRT54G :)

[Steeles]

I have a linksys wired router, and it gets reset all the time, I am using BT, does it BT reset router or my router corruptted?

[tubs]

That's assuming he doesn't have the crappy v5 version of the WRT54G :)

Well, the V5 and V6 can be flashed to DD-WRT MICRO as well although an extra step is needed. It still should be good for his needs given that he probably won't need the extra features of DD-WRT standard.

[Oversized Rooster]

I guess the only way to have lots and lots of connections through the router is to drop several hundred into a real business-class Cisco router...

[qrayzie]

I have a D-Link DGL-4300 - that I specifically purchased for bittorrent usage. I was using a WRT54G before which constantly disconnected and bottlenecked on torrents. With the DGL-4300, I've been laughing. I had to reset it once in 8 months - after a power outage. :)

[lobo]

using an old computer as router is a good idea and certainly gives you an insanely powerful router

but what about your electric bill... :lol: (not to mention like BB88 said, it's not for everyone to setup)

while i don't have a specific router model in mind, i must say that utorrent is "kinder" to my router than azureus (for unknown reasons, I HAVE TESTED.)

That's my feeling too. The amount of electricity it's going to use up doesn't make it a good solution. I did have that exact setup...IPCop on an old Pentium 133 and Linksys WRT54G for the wireless. Torrents were amazing but ultimately I realized that my electricity bill was going to be killer for having such a setup. I used one of those electricity meter things to see how much juice the machine was sucking up and it was in the area of 60watts to 200watts depending on what components were working at the time. Compare that to the Linksys which is only 9watts.

Lobo

[Oversized Rooster]

That's my feeling too. The amount of electricity it's going to use up doesn't make it a good solution. I did have that exact setup...IPCop on an old Pentium 133 and Linksys WRT54G for the wireless. Torrents were amazing but ultimately I realized that my electricity bill was going to be killer for having such a setup. I used one of those electricity meter things to see how much juice the machine was sucking up and it was in the area of 60watts to 200watts depending on what components were working at the time. Compare that to the Linksys which is only 9watts.

Lobo

You should live in a condo where there is just a "condo fee". In my building, there are 10 units, and my family's unit easily equals 2-3 units in terms of resource usage. But it's OK because we pay a flat rate! :D Power usage should not be a concern at all if the idea is good and it works.

[lobo]

You should live in a condo where there is just a "condo fee". In my building, there are 10 units, and my family's unit easily equals 2-3 units in terms of resource usage. But it's OK because we pay a flat rate! :D Power usage should not be a concern at all if the idea is good and it works.

I used to think the way you do as I grew up living in a townhouse with a montly maintenance fee that covered things like water, hydro, cable, etc. We used to leave the TV and lights on aaaall the time. Can't believe how wasteful we were back then and I can't believe how much you claim to use. That's pretty disgusting if you ask me. Bragging that you consume easily 2 - 3 times what the average household consumes is dumb.

Now that I have my own house and I have to pay for my own utilities and the fact that I'm starting to care more about the environment, I can't justify wasting hydro so easily like that. One, it hurts me in my pocket book and two eventually it's going to hurt us even more in the environment.

Lobo

[hamhead]

i bought a linksys wrt54g. the crappier version. it crapped out at 100 connections so i flashed it to dd-wrt and now it has 4096 connections available. BT never goes over 500 for me so it awesome for BT now.

[White Comet]

I also have a Linksys WRT54G for about 2 years now I guess. Bittorrent has always been a problem for me. For some reason, once I open the bittorrent application and then start my activities in there...it brings down my whole house's internet connection. All computer wouldn't be able to connect, or rather bittorrent is jamming up the connection. Sometimes I can surf the net and bittorent at the same time, but most of the time, it's either just bittorent or using the internet.

Any clues? btw...I've already port forwarded..just done about 2-3 months ago. Seems a bit better, but still the connection isn't very stable. Speeds are very fluctuating...i guess it depends on your peers? Recently I got an average of 9000+ kb/s but most of the time, I'm stuck under 10 kb/s. I'm currently using Bit Comet 0.80

Also, I'm using WIRED...not wireless XD

The router has already been reset numbers of times

[tubs]

Are you using the stock Linksys firmware?

[Digital_Domain]

I can say for sure that my DI-824VUP handles torrents great. Just port forward and follow CodecX81's advice. It's a P3 450MHz, wired connection, using Azureus; use to get 500-560KB/s which is basically maxed on Rogers Express (hence the "use to get").

[ItemFinder]

Never use the stock firmware on Linksys WRT54G routers, especially if you have a v1-v4. I'm using a WRT54Gv3 and WRT54GLv1.1 in WDS without any bittorrent issues. I regularly download at over 500kb/sec without router reboots needed.

[White Comet]

Are you using the stock Linksys firmware?

I believe so...o.O

the firmware of my router is v4.00.7

I am using Rogers high speed internet btw...i think it's 5.0mbps max

[macuser]

pfSense pwns all. There's the energy consumption, but I go around and conserve energy everywhere else.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5776/untitledtw1.png
It never freezes. (The low uptime was because I... uhh... made a mistake)

[Super strokey]

Are you using the stock Linksys firmware?

I am, and i have the V5 wrt54g... doh

[Super strokey]

can anyone point me to the best firmware for the wrt54g version 5? There are so many on the webpage im not sure which to pick

[galanz]

buy an old P3 computer and install IPCOP on it. Make sure the P3 has a second NIC...

Buy some junky router with wireless and disable DHCP.

Voila!

a router that wont get overloaded because it has 32 megs of ram! And wont always need a reboot..

Mind you, you'll need to know a little bit of linux

That's what I did, and it was bulletproof.
The install is dead simple as well, a very simple wizard driven install.
I've taken it down for now, as I couldn't justify the extra power requirements.

[tjuzer]

I guess the only way to have lots and lots of connections through the router is to drop several hundred into a real business-class Cisco router...

Can you recommend?

[CdTriX]

you can get an old Cisco 2500 or 2600 for like 100 bucks.

Upgrade to the latest IOS and boom... bulletproof managed switch with DHCP.

hook up a switch or a wireless router minus DHCP and you're good as gold.

[akito925]

Tried that, its a known issue with them i guess... not to happy about it. Ill try again but what other suggestions do you have? I download so much i dont mind spending a good amount of coin to get a really good one.

if you don't mind spending a good amount of coin.. then you might want think of getting a cisco router. but.. it might be too steep of your thought on spending on a good amount of coin lol. but other then.. I'd just use a linksys with a 3rd party firmware.

[ItemFinder]

you can get an old Cisco 2500 or 2600 for like 100 bucks.

Upgrade to the latest IOS and boom... bulletproof managed switch with DHCP.

hook up a switch or a wireless router minus DHCP and you're good as gold.

And boom you're out about $150. Why spend that much when you can get the WRT54GL for $75, half the price?

[CdTriX]

if you're seriously looking into networking.. cisco is the way to go... not just because it's brand name, but it is a great learning tool. Cisco IOS should be something EVERYONE in networking should know. It is essentially the norm...

I'm not sure what this linksys 3rd party firmwares can do but Cisco IOS is insanely powerful.

Cisco routers/switches rarely die.

[Narci]

For the WRT54GL, which version of DD-WRT you use? The generic one, the WRT54G one?

[macuser]

For the WRT54GL, which version of DD-WRT you use? The generic one, the WRT54G one?You should TFTP the generic one. The different "versions" for the WRT54G, Motorola, Belkin etc are just the same firmware with different headers so the web interfaces of said router will accept DD-WRT.

[tmash]

WRT54G v4.0 or earler, or the WRT54GL/GS.

Flash it with DD-WRT. Forward the necessary ports.

Voila....


My old D-Link router would give me 25-30 kbps with only "good" signal strength. My WRT54GL gives me excellent at all times, and 60-100 kbps download with uTorrent. :D

[tjuzer]

I agree. I used to have the stock flash, BT kept killing my connections, required a rest. Not only that, I couldn't surf with 2 downloads.

After flashing with a third party firmware, now I can surf with 2 downloads at the same time. You can adjust the wireless power transmitter as well.
Linksys and Dlink are the only routers I'd ever consider buying.

I see too. Before no problem with Telus. Now switch Roger and can't surf.

[Asun]

buy an old P3 computer and install IPCOP on it. Make sure the P3 has a second NIC...

Buy some junky router with wireless and disable DHCP.

Voila!

a router that wont get overloaded because it has 32 megs of ram! And wont always need a reboot..

Mind you, you'll need to know a little bit of linux

I did this, but then the hydro bill stops me. Afterwards, I realized that I'm using linux on my desktop anyways and it's always on, so I put my desktop facing the Internet, plug in a second NIC, enable DHCP on that interface and put wireless router with DHCP disabled behind it. Voila, no more problem with bittorrent :D

[vinciman1215]

For me, I have found that the Linksys WRT54G is one of the best for bit-torrent.

However, I think the problem doesn't just lie in the router, as it also lies in the ISP.

I was previously using Rogers Cable extreme, and every time I used bit-torrent for longer than a couple of hours, I would have to manually power-reset BOTH the modem and the router (using the Linksys WRT54G at the time).

Of course, this can get a bit annoying, as everyone knows that once you have a decent amount of traffic coming in, and going out from a bit-torrent download, your internet pretty much either STOPS, or gets incredibly slow regardless of whether you are using simple DSL, or fibre optics.

While no ISP that I've managed to encounter offers decent speed while using bit-torrent, I can tell you that by using simple ADSL from Bell sympatico, I realized that I didn't have router/modem clog-ups anymore. In fact its been a good 6 months since switching, and I've never had to reset the modem/router ONCE, and I'm a heavy bit-torrent user.

Anyways, my 2 cents :)

[jimmyzaas]

can anyone point me to the best firmware for the wrt54g version 5? There are so many on the webpage im not sure which to pick

http://www.bitsum.com/openwiking/owbase/ow.asp?WRT54G5%5FCFE#h9

Step by step instructions on what to do with a v5 router.

According to Utorrent's faq, bittorrent should not affect v5+ routers no matter how intense the activity. On v1-4 hardware, it tracks connections up to 5 days and hence causes the router to either hang or slowdown.

Those running on v1-4 hardware should flash their firmwares to DD-WRT v23 SP2, Tomato 1.0x or Hyperwrt Thibor. Personally, I'm on v2 hardware with DD-WRT v23 SP2 running a month solid and going.

To fix the router slowdowns and hangs on wrt54g/gs/gl, I again refering to the utorrent faq with no real input of my own:

To upgrade to DD-WRT, follow the instructions on this page. WRT54G v4 Installation Tutorial (http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/WRT54G_v4_Installation_Tutorial).

* The following instructions are for DD-WRT v23 or later only.
* Enter the following values at 'Web-Admin -> Administration -> Management -> IP Filter Settings'
* Maximum Ports: 4096
* TCP Timeout (s): 300 (decrease if you have many TCP connections)
* UDP Timeout (s): 300 (decrease if you have many UDP connections)
* Save Settings and then Reboot Router