RFD'er Gone Bad **siuyiu**

[pcgeezer]

Greetings,

Ran into my first bad trader/scammer here on RFD. Here’s how the story goes…..

In my WTB thread I listed that I was looking for a P4 2.8Ghz, 533FSB, 512KB L2, Skt 478 CPU (Northwood). I was contacted by a couple traders including **siuyiu**. He stated that he had the CPU that I was looking for and it had the sSpec # of SL6QB and was selling it for $60 Shipped. After a couple of PM’s back and forth asking for confirmation that the CPU didn’t have any bent pins and was in working condition, I sent an EMT for $60 to siuyiu@hotmail.com . There were a couple more PM’s sent back and forth asking when he would ship it out and it was agreed that he would ship it on Sunday Jan 28th or Monday 29th. On Sunday he PM’d me that the CPU had shipped and I should get it by Wednesday.

The CPU did arrive on Wednesday shipped in a plain white envelope (see pic below). The CPU was in an anti-static bag with some foam around it. The envelope looked very wrinkled. After carefully opening it I inspected the CPU with a Magnifying Glass I instantly noticed 4 bent pins and 1 broken pin (see pic below). At this time I stopped inspecting the CPU and sent a PM, Email and pictures to **siuyiu** informing him of the situation and asked what he would like to do about it. After about 15 mins I decided to inspect the CPU some more and this is when I discovered that it wasn’t a sSpec # SL6QB…but was a sSpec # SL6Z5 with a 800FSB (totally useless to me). I immediately sent another PM and Email to **siuyiu** informing him of this and that I would like a full refund EMT’d to me. When the EMT was received, I would ship the CPU back at my expense. About 4 hours later I sent another PM and Email requesting that he continue to reply to PM’s until this issue was resolved. A little while later I noticed **siuyiu** had read the PM about the damage and that was it. All communication has stopped.

Granted, the damage to the CPU "COULD" have happened during shipping because of the improper packaging, but the misrepresenting of the CPU as a sSpec SL6QB is plain scamming. An honest person making an honest mistake doesn't go into hiding...!!!.

Another PM and Email was sent the next day informing him I would start recovery actions if he didn’t start reading and reply. To this date I have 4 unread PM’s and no reply’s.

This guy isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed either. He not only scammed me, he scammed himself out of the $6.32 it cost to mail the envelope. Did he really think I wouldn’t notice it was the wrong CPU. He should have kept all the money and sent nothing….LOL.

A copy of this post was sent to **siuyiu** on Feb 3rd to give him time to respond...nothing.

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Here’s the contact info on **siuyiu** I have. I should be getting a phone number from another RFD’er for him shortly.

Richard Kong
20 Carabob Court
Scarborough, Ont.
M1T 3N1

siuyiu@hotmail.com

RFD Account…..Here (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/member.php?u=2674)
HoFo Account….Here (http://207.210.82.131/member.php?userid=136899)
EBay Account….Here (http://feedback.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=siuyiu)
Heatware……….Here (http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=11645)



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[rubberband]

That sucks.. there's no excuse for crappy packaging, let along sending the wrong item. Hope you get your cash back.

[muggs]

Hope you get your cash back dude. If anyone has got a hold of the RFDer. Help pcgeezer out.

[rajab04]

Good luck

[pcgeezer]

I have no expectations of seeing the $60 again. I posted mainly so others are aware and are extremely careful if they choose to deal with this guy. It also amazes me how cheaply people will sell themselves and their reputation over a little 60 bux computer part...!!!.

[mcg]

Yeah, IMHO, it's not worth damaging your rep for a mere $60 we can all make in less than a day with a part time job.

[pcgeezer]

Update......Last night (06 Feb 2007) at 11:13 PM **siuyiu** read the outstanding PM about the recovery actions I'll be taking but still no reply. All PM's I have sent him also get Emailed to him. Still 3 unread PM's. He's lurking here in "Invisible Mode".




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[JAC]

20 Carabob Ct seems to be an appartment building. Do you have the apt #?

[pcgeezer]

Yea, I think it may be more like a townhouse complex. I'll let the Police worry about that when I get some more info I'm waiting for and make my report.

I do believe these are pictures of his car though taken from this post at a website he frequents.....Here (http://www.corollacustomz.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?p=49991&highlight=#49991)

[pcgeezer]

Just got a reply from **siuyiu** trying to deny that it was him. Must have been someone else that sent a damaged and misrepresented CPU to me for no reason at all...LOL. This guys a real joke...!!!.

Here's what he said and my reply......


Don't BS me *siuyiu*. ALL the PM's back and forth and all the Emails I've sent have been to your accts. Your Heatware acct. email address matches the one I sent the EMT to. You sent me the link to your Heatware acct.

But, needless to say, you did send the CPU, it's the wrong one, it's damaged, so what are you going to do about it...?.

Why have you been hiding since you read the PM about the CPU damage on 31 Jan 2007 at 3:52 PM...?.

Are you now denying that you sent that CPU...?.

LOL....your not even a good scammer !!!




Originally Posted by siuyiu
hey man its not me for sure, i'm not even in canada for so many weeks

n for $60 anyone will know this is suspecious
and if i want to scam i'm not going to just scam 60 bucks from u

and that address and everything is wrong u idiot
call police and goto his house catch that richard la bak chi

[pcgeezer]

This is getting really funny. **siuyiu** is sending me PM's telling me I should find out who recieved the EMT, when I sent it to the Email address that he gave me in a PM....LOL.

[pcgeezer]

The comedy continues......**siuyiu** just sent me an Email to my home Email address. This Email was sent from the same address I sent the EMT to. He's saying I should find out who got the EMT........LOL.

Man this guy is a real "winner"

[MkmBandit]

Make a post in the corolla forums he frequents. Car forums seldom ever let scammers get away, and he seems like he's trying to make a name for himself there. If all else fails, the sound of crowbar striking kneecaps is music to my ears. I'd be more then happy to help you out

[siuyiu]

hey man i got ur msg just now

believe it or not, the one selling cpu to u(from what u told me) is

Richard Kong
20 Carabob Court
Scarborough, Ont.
M1T 3N1

and u use email money transfer so u can just contect ur bank to chase where that money goes to

i wanna know who is that mofo use my account selling u stuff too

also administor can u chase back those ip logging in when pm'ing about the emt detail??

i sell so many stuff online before and i'm not scamming u $60 to destroy all my reputation man, if u say $6mil than maybe i will do it

and btw, that white car is really my car pic on corollacustomz but u dun need to post that up for a $60 scam buddy

if i were the scammer i won't be that stupid show u my car u idiot

[pcgeezer]

Here's then latest PM I just recieved from **siuyiu**

yes siuyiu@hotmail.com is the email address i registered with rfd

if u use email money transfer then thats easy
trace where the money goes to from ur bank account then u know

i only use paypal and its not siuyiu@hotmail.com

this lesson teach u only use paypal which can be trace at anytime

call police if u want

if i were the scammer i dun even waste time to talk to u


He still can't figure out that I have a receipt from my bank saying that the EMT was sent to siuyiu@hotmail.com

He still can't figure out that he is sending me Emails from siuyiu@hotmail.com

He still can't figure out that he told me in a PM to send the EMT to siuyiu@hotmail.com

He still can't figure out that the Email address at his Heatware is siuyiu@hotmail.com

He still can't figure out that the "Secret Answer" for the EMT was given to him here in a PM.

Somebody go over there and give him a kick to wake him up would ya....LOL.

[siuyiu]

i know u sent to siuyiu@hotmail.com

but my hotmail and rft password is the same, i tell u to chase what bank account that money goes to , not which email went to coz email is not a bank account and cannot cash out

u get what i mean?

[siuyiu]

btw hotmail is still using old password so that richard can still loging to it

i only change password in rfd coz for some reason the hotmail password changing page is not woking i think its java problem

no matter what i said or ur complaint is useless until u find out which bank account dose that emt link to

so if u want to yell pls wait until u dig that scammer out from bank 1st
or see if the bank can reverse the transaction to get the money back

[ji2o0k]

wow.....just wow...........hope everything gets resolved pcgeezer....

[pcgeezer]

hey man i got ur msg just now

believe it or not, the one selling cpu to u(from what u told me) is

Richard Kong
20 Carabob Court
Scarborough, Ont.
M1T 3N1

and u use email money transfer so u can just contect ur bank to chase where that money goes to

i wanna know who is that mofo use my account selling u stuff too

also administor can u chase back those ip logging in when pm'ing about the emt detail??

i sell so many stuff online before and i'm not scamming u $60 to destroy all my reputation man, if u say $6mil than maybe i will do it

and btw, that white car is really my car pic on corollacustomz but u dun need to post that up for a $60 scam buddy

if i were the scammer i won't be that stupid show u my car u idiot

Don't know if the Richard Kong address is good, it was the return address on the envelope you shipped the CPU in.

If you don't want pictures of your car accessible to anyone on the internet, don't post them.

**Mods** go through my PM's and put this to rest once and for all. Siuyiu is having a hard time adding 2+2 = 4.....LOL.

[pcgeezer]

wow.....just wow...........hope everything gets resolved pcgeezer....


It's amazing isn't it....LOL. Hope this is giving you guy's a laugh, I know I'm getting a chuckle from it. How many times do you think he's going to tell me to check where the EMT went to when I and my bank know where it went to...siuyiu@hotmail.com

Man this guy is thick...LOL

[pcgeezer]

Sorry for the length of this one.......here's how the PM's went up to the point he said he shipped the CPU....... **Mods** can verify this


cpu shipped today so you should have it by wednesday, sorry i don't have a tracking number since it's only an OEM cpu so i put in an envelope....but well protected....

siuyiu

Thanks. Just let me know when you get it off and I'll PM you when it arrives.

Thanks again,

Dave.

if i get the EMT tonight then i will ship out tomorrrow ( sunday ) so that case the cpu will be on your way monday morning ( which it won't wait till monday night ).

siuyiu

That's great.

I just sent the EMT for $60 to siuyiu@hotmail.com . You should be getting it shortly.

Secret answer... *******

Do you think you can get it shipped out on Monday...?. Shipping address is in the EMT and below.

Cheers.

it's in good and working condition, about the payment, prefer EMT

and here is the heatware information....

http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=11645

and you can send the EMT to siuyiu@hotmail.com

Let me know

Hey There,

After some more thought, I'm not going to go with the Prescott. It's 89 Watts and would just suck back the battery and I think the Northwood would run cooler also.

So, if your P4 2.8 Northwood is still for sale I'd like to purchase it for $60 shipped. Just to confirm, it's in good shape without any bent pins or anything is it...?.

Could you supply some contact info and maybe a Heatware account. Mines below and my Heat is in my sig.

What's your preferred method of payment, EMT is good for me.

Cheers,

**** ********
********
Thorold, Ont.
L2V 4Y9

905-***-****

hi, let me know if this OK.....

2.80GHz/512/533
SL6QB Costa Rica

and im selling it for $60 shipped

[deal_lurker]

Hi pcgeezer,

I feel sorry for your situation... but am entertained by your thread!?!? If that is the only positive thing that comes out of this unfortunate situation?!

At face value... it seems like an awful lot of effort for someone to do all of this following for $60?? (or $53 counting the shipping cost/envelope?):

1) High-jack someone's RFD account.
2) High-jack someone's Hotmail account.
3) High-jack someone's Heatware account.
4) Set up the product on Heatware.
5) Converse through PMs and hotmail to get the deal done and have it shipped and settled through EMT.

It is strange that all of this can happen and that through the span of the transaction period have the original account owner of (#1,#2,#3) knowing/noticing their account has been used or trying to contact you to warn you that someone has stolen their ID/password (during the days in between).

Those observations aside.... Can you somehow tell the bank (or get the EMT service to contact the bank) to flag the account (ie the bank that the money ultimately went to) about this? That way they might somehow be able to restrict the scammer (who ever it is) or disallow him/her from using the EMT service ever again until the situation is rectified. They probably might not be able to tell you who the actual person is that owns the bank account that your $60 landed in... but they still might be able to flag it.

dl

[pcgeezer]

Hi pcgeezer,

I feel sorry for your situation... but am entertained by your thread!?!? If that is the only positive thing that comes out of this unfortunate situation?!

At face value... it seems like an awful lot of effort for someone to do all of this following for $60?? (or $53 counting the shipping cost/envelope?):

1) High-jack someone's RFD account.
2) High-jack someone's Hotmail account.
3) High-jack someone's Heatware account.
4) Set up the product on Heatware.
5) Converse through PMs and hotmail to get the deal done and have it shipped and settled through EMT.

It is strange that all of this can happen and that through the span of the transaction period have the original account owner of (#1,#2,#3) knowing/noticing their account has been used or trying to contact you to warn you that someone has stolen their ID/password (during the days in between).

Those observations aside.... Can you somehow tell the bank (or get the EMT service to contact the bank) to flag the account (ie the bank that the money ultimately went to) about this? That way they might somehow be able to restrict the scammer (who ever it is) or disallow him/her from using the EMT service ever again until the situation is rectified. They probably might not be able to tell you who the actual person is that owns the bank account that your $60 landed in... but they still might be able to flag it.

dl

LOL....it is pretty amusing isn't it. He's just a scammer that got caught and is trying to backpeddle out of it. Fortunately, the more he opens his mouth the deeper he digs his grave. The police will get a chuckle out of this when I make my report I'm sure.

[siuyiu]

i preffer u contact police and the bank to find out where dose the money goes to, but not keep yelling here and hoping i'll give u money that the scammer got from u

and u can check where does that envolop mail out from

i also want to know who the hell use my account to scam just $60, but why not more

[NavSingh]

siuyui dont you get it that its still YOUR FAULT he got scammed. With YOUR email YOUR heat YOUR RFD password so YOU still owe him even if this story was true.

You should be contactiong the police urself. And why would a scammer ship him the bloody part?

[MARZ]

i preffer u contact police and the bank to find out where dose the money goes to, but not keep yelling here and hoping i'll give u money that the scammer got from u

and u can check where does that envolop mail out from

i also want to know who the hell use my account to scam just $60, but why not more

Are you really that stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get a grip on reality. You are busted, give the guy his money back.

[pcgeezer]

i preffer u contact police and the bank to find out where dose the money goes to, but not keep yelling here and hoping i'll give u money that the scammer got from u

and u can check where does that envolop mail out from

i also want to know who the hell use my account to scam just $60, but why not more

If your not a scammer and have nothing to hide from, post or PM me your real name and address so the police have an easy time finding you.

[700mb80min]

Any contact with the fuzz yet ? I here a few people were going to involve the cops when a deal went bad but so far no final verdict if the police did indeed get involved , or what if anything they can do for you .

[CMB.]

hahahah this guy is worth a good 2 second laugh. He puts IN HIS SIG that someone has been scamming people under this adress. hahahaha, hes like a hacker who isnt good at it and trys to deny it, even though we all know he is still hacking ;) :lol:

[rubberband]

This thread is like a train wreck (or an MDG "hot" deal post).. You know you shouldn't stare, but you can't look away.

[sulja]

it took me like 8 minutes to get through it... i need to know how it ends now... frig

[pcgeezer]

i preffer u contact police and the bank to find out where dose the money goes to, but not keep yelling here and hoping i'll give u money that the scammer got from u

and u can check where does that envolop mail out from

i also want to know who the hell use my account to scam just $60, but why not more

If your not a scammer and have nothing to hide from, post or PM me your real name and address so the police have an easy time finding you.

I guess **siuyiu** must have missed this post or he's not interested in clearing his self confessed good name...!!!.



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[DCworld0]

:twisted: What a horrible but entertaining story... I hope Rich gets the bird flu...

[sulja]

:twisted: What a horrible but entertaining story... I hope Rich gets the bird flu...

I'm glad your not a judge...or....our legal system would be hard as hell.

[pcgeezer]

:twisted: What a horrible but entertaining story... I hope Rich gets the bird flu...

Now now. We wouldn't want any harm to come to a fellow RFD'er now, would we...?. Give him a chance to respond to the request of supplying his real name and address. I'm sure he will, like any honest RFD'er would in a case like this....




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[DCworld0]

Not to shi* on you but the odds of you getting your money back is like slim to none...

[CSR]

This is the funniest thing i've read.

[angy]

Its Car Smashin Time! :-0

[james111]

I really hope that if he doesn't give you your money back, you do go through with the police and don't back down.
good luck and I hope it works out for you pcgeezer.

[pcgeezer]

Its Car Smashin Time! :-0

Speaking of cars.....and I don't condone smashing them, but thats just me.

Anybody want to take a stab at guessing what this licence plate # is. This plate can sometimes be seen driving around the "P Mall".

[DCworld0]

Not many people modify Corrolla's and its white, if it see it on the streets i'll key it for you. And then i'll report back to you if I did it with pictures

[pcgeezer]

Not many people modify Corrolla's and its white, if it see it on the streets i'll key it for you. And then i'll report back to you if I did it with pictures

Not one of the wiser statements I've seen posted in an open public forum....Noobs !!!.

A license plate # will do.

I'm sure the police can narrow the search down quite a bit with the info I have now.

[700mb80min]

I asked and you didn`t reply .....did you or will you call the police and what can you expect . seller doesn`t seem too worried as he told you to call the cops .

[pcgeezer]

I asked and you didn`t reply .....did you or will you call the police and what can you expect . seller doesn`t seem too worried as he told you to call the cops .

Oh yes, I will indeed be making a police report, and I have contacted a "certain" detective. He really has no clue what's coming...LOL. I'm still waiting for a critical piece of info from another RFD'er. The thing **siuyiu** doesn't understand is that all the evidence points to him. He can make all these wild claims about his accounts being hijacked but in reality, it makes no difference.

He's just a scammer that got caught, and like I've said before, he's not even a good scammer which can be seen by some of the stuff in this thread.

[700mb80min]

ok good luck ......... too bad though you cant have a decent forum for some deal makings . bought and sold a few things here and never had a problem but i am leaning more and more towards buying new and only coming for the hot deals because of the scamming which is is becoming more frequent .

[pcgeezer]

OK, I got a couple phone #'s for this guy from a very reputable RFD'er who has dealt with him face to face.

647-886-39**

647-722-92**

I called the first number, the guy that answered said he knows nothing of RFD or selling computer parts on it. He gave a name of "Yao"

The second number is always a busy tone.

Maybe you guys will have better luck...;)

[CHINAdeals]

rofl

i should call him too

what a b@stard

damn people like him mess up bst for everyone.

i hope you get your situation resolved.

[ronny1980]

Don't you think your going overboard by posting his personal info and phone number?

Have you contacted the mods?

[pcgeezer]

Don't you think your going overboard by posting his personal info and phone number?

Have you contacted the mods?

LOL....are you for real...!!!.

All scammers should be brought out into the open with any and all info that can be found on them. The whole purpose of this forum is to protect the RFD community from people like this.

It's also apparent that there will be little help coming from the administrators since self confessed scammers like "supers-box390" and "Superman-01" are still allowed to continue making posts to sell items. Its every man for himself here.

You remind me of a Defense Lawyer beating up on a rape victim in court.

Edit....Just to add, I'm a firm believer in an Eye for an Eye. Hopefully the exposing of scammers like this will deter any others from taking it up.



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[rdtx2002]

how do you know he frequents Corollacustomz?... are you just tying it to his username?

[pcgeezer]

how do you know he frequents Corollacustomz?... are you just tying it to his username?

Read the note he posted above the "edit time stamp" in this post (http://www.corollacustomz.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4630&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=&sid=f16ae1cb297a67aace4ba659cd7aaf7b). He admitted it himself, removed the pictures of his car he thought I was linked to, removed the picture out of his avatar, but left his location as "Near P Mall". In the second post he uses the exclamation "whahahaha" which can be found all through his posts on HoFo which also contain his Heatware references that contain his email address that I sent the EMT to. Cross-Reference. It's not only what people say, it's how they say it also. People are very predictable and habitual.

[rdtx2002]

Read the note he posted above the "edit time stamp" in this post (http://www.corollacustomz.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4630&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=&sid=f16ae1cb297a67aace4ba659cd7aaf7b). He admitted it himself, removed the pictures of his car he thought I was linked to, removed the picture out of his avatar, but left his location as "Near P Mall". In the second post he uses the exclamation "whahahaha" which can be found all through his posts on HoFo which also contain his Heatware references that contain his email address that I sent the EMT to. Cross-Reference. It's not only what people say, it's how they say it also. People are very predictable and habitual.

Ok, but can you conclude he is the this Richard Kong?

i'm going to do my little research on siuyiu, i'll let you know what I find.

[pcgeezer]

Ok, but can you conclude he is the this Richard Kong?

i'm going to do my little research on siuyiu, i'll let you know what I find.

The Richard Kong name and address was the return address on the envelope he mailed the CPU in. I couldn't tell you if it's fake or not.

Going through a post from another RFD'ers search say's **siuyiu's** name is Howard here (http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/archive/topic/15074-1.html).

The RFD'er who gave me the phone #'s thought his name was Ric or something like that, from what he could remember.

[rdtx2002]

The Richard Kong name and address was the return address on the envelope he mailed the CPU in. I couldn't tell you if it's fake or not.

Going through a post from another RFD'ers search say's **siuyiu's** name is Howard here (http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/archive/topic/15074-1.html).

The RFD'er who gave me the phone #'s thought his name was Ric or something like that, from what he could remember.

well... the real 'siuyiu' is Howard.. and i have no idea who Richard Kong is.

I know since the real 'siuyiu' is a personal friend of mine. I understand that you are trying to get your money back and such and such.. I just don't agree with your methods of posting the car pics when the 'real' one is not the one that scammed you, but I kind of understand why you would do it.

Anyhow, for your information, he (Howard) really is out of town. He left for HK January 10, 2007 on an Air Canada flight. You were scammed afterwards (Jan 29th or so). How this Richard Kong guy got his username/pwd, I have no idea.

[pcgeezer]

well... the real 'siuyiu' is Howard.. and i have no idea who Richard Kong is.

I know since the real 'siuyiu' is a personal friend of mine. I understand that you are trying to get your money back and such and such.. I just don't agree with your methods of posting the car pics when the 'real' one is not the one that scammed you, but I kind of understand why you would do it.

Anyhow, for your information, he (Howard) really is out of town. He left for HK January 10, 2007 on an Air Canada flight. You were scammed afterwards (Jan 29th or so). How this Richard Kong guy got his username/pwd, I have no idea.

I thank you for your above post and if you are in contact with the "real" siuyiu you should inform him of the situation.

Needless to say, all the accounts used in this transaction are his. The EMT was sent to his Email address that has no association with RFD. Secret Answer for the EMT was sent to his account here. Heatware is yet another account of his. Did he give out the passwords & info to someone to use his accounts....?. It seems highly unlikely that a hacker would bust into all his accounts just for a $60 scam.

With all the info I have, Reciepts from Banks, Interac, Emails, PM's, etc....it is the owner of these accounts that is responsible. Can he prove his accounts were hacked into...?. The only choice I have is to go after the owner of the accounts that were used in the scam, and that's what I'll continue to do until it is proven otherwise.

As for posting pictures of his car, they were freely available on the internet to anyone who looked. I just pointed them out. It is my opinion that in trying resolve the scam, any and all freely available public info is fair game. As a show of good faith I will remove them.

I will still continue to take recovery actions against the accounts that were used to do the scam.

Thanks again for your info.

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Edit......It should also be noted that on 31 Jan 2007 **siuyiu** made a post here (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=401147) to sell a laptop. This is after my scam started and supposedly while **siuyiu** is in HK. Are you telling me also that this is the "SUPPOSED HACKER" at work...?.

If you look at this post here (http://207.210.82.131/showthread.php?t=1066434) on the 13 Dec 2006, **siuyiu** is selling the same laptop on HoFo. Are you telling me he was hacked here also...?.

If you add up the time lines and the "CLAIM" of a hacker, it appears the "SUPPOSED HACKER" is trying to do **siuyiu** a favour and sell his laptop for him on the 31 Jan 2007 on RFD while he is in HK......LOL.

Smells a little fishy to me......;)

No disrespect rdtx2002 , but what you are saying isn't adding up.




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[dreamwalker]

Haha, hey I used to live around that area.. 20 Carabob is an apartment complex, if you really wanted to meet this guy face to face just go to the complex and ask the manager for Kong residence or whatever.

[rdtx2002]

I thank you for your above post and if you are in contact with the "real" siuyiu you should inform him of the situation.

he knows about it.. he want to find out who is doing this as well.. of course, in replying to you he irked you futher. heat of the moment because you posted the pics to his car? I don't know. I try to talk to him when I can see him online over there in HK.. but time differences make things harder.

Needless to say, all the accounts used in this transaction are his. The EMT was sent to his Email address that has no association with RFD. Secret Answer for the EMT was sent to his account here. Heatware is yet another account of his. Did he give out the passwords & info to someone to use his accounts....?. It seems highly unlikely that a hacker would bust into all his accounts just for a $60 scam.

well, seeing that he did post earlier that he shares the same password on his accounts, it's not out of the realm of possibility that once the 'hacker' (we'll call him hacker) gets his password and decides to try it elsewhere and it works.

I'm not sure whether he gives out his account info and password to others, that is up to him to explain that. From what I know, it's usually not the case.

hackers don't need to pull off some major heist to be satisfied.

With all the info I have, Reciepts from Banks, Interac, Emails, PM's, etc....it is the owner of these accounts that is responsible. Can he prove his accounts were hacked into...?. The only choice I have is to go after the owner of the accounts that were used in the scam, and that's what I'll continue to do until it is proven otherwise.

He can easily prove it's not him. He does have a bank account and if that email you sent the EMT to does not correspond to his own actual bank account, then the lead turns up dry. However, if his siuyiu@hotmail.com is tied to his bank account, then I don't know what to say.

He can also prove he is not in the country at the time of the event. All he needs to do is show his itinerary and plane tickets and passport stamps.

As for posting pictures of his car, they were freely available on the internet to anyone who looked. I just pointed them out. It is my opinion that in trying resolve the scam, any and all freely available public info is fair game. As a show of good faith I will remove them.

Agreed, but it was only until you found out that the actual owner's name and the name of you scammer was different that you offered in good faith to take the pictures out.

I will still continue to take recovery actions against the accounts that were used to do the scam.

I wish you good luck, but keep in mind. He has not been in Canada since January 10th, well before you were scammed. So i'm confident howard ain't the guy you are looking for.

[B]Edit......It should also be noted that on 31 Jan 2007 **siuyiu** made a post here (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=401147) to sell a laptop. This is after my scam started and supposedly while **siuyiu** is in HK. Are you telling me also that this is the "SUPPOSED HACKER" at work...?.

Is he not allowed to post while he is in Hong Kong?.. You do understand that people all over the world can post on RFD. If you want, ask Ryan or Derek to trace the ip to it's original location. Perhaps there are 2 different IPs accessing the account. That way it 'can' make things more clearer.

I'm looking at this objectively as possible.

He sells laptop on Hofo in December. He leaves country beginning of January. You are scammed end of January. A post for the same laptop on Hofo appears in midst of your troubles with Richard Kong.

Now... seeing that he has 'shared' passwords with his usernames on several sources and the fact he was out of town since the 10th of January. So between the time he left town and you being scammed is not accounted for. Are you saying it is not possible for two different users with different IPs to log onto the same account on RFD at different times? I don't pretend to know who is the 'hacker' here. But I know for sure it's highly improbably for the 'real' one to scam you from overseas with no access to Canada Post.

It would still be in your best interests to get a ip log for siuyiu.

[pcgeezer]

@ rdtx2002

I wish you good luck, but keep in mind. He has not been in Canada since January 10th, well before you were scammed. So i'm confident howard ain't the guy you are looking for.

I couldn't care less what the name of the person is. Whoever owns the account that I sent the EMT to is the person responsible and that happens to be siuyiu. As I and other RFD'ers have said here, the likelyhood of a hacker busting into multiple accounts of his during the time frames stated and without his knowledge is next to nil. There's no doubt in my mind he isn't being truthful to you.

Here's my gut feeling with 2 possible ways this went.........

(1) siuyiu just plain out and out scammed me.

(2) siuyiu gave his account info to someone to use, that person scammed me and he isn't taking responsibility for it.

Since a CPU was actually sent to me, do you actually think a hacker would do that. Get a grip on reality. Siuyiu is involved in some fashion.

Either way, he is responsible.

He should refund my money and HE should go after either himself, the person he gave his account info to, or this "supposed" hacker.

And now comes up an issue that you have to morally decide.......Are you going to PM me all of **siuyiu's** info such as address, name, etc...so I can give it to the police...?.

If he has nothing to hide, this shouldn't be an issue, should it.

Edit.....By the way, the excuse "somebody hacked my account", let alone 3 or 4, is one of the lamest excuses on the internet...LOL

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[Flyer]

This is just further proof that people who do not change their passwords regularly deserves to be shot as an example to the rest...

[rdtx2002]

@ rdtx2002
I couldn't care less what the name of the person is. Whoever owns the account that I sent the EMT to is the person responsible and that happens to be siuyiu. As I and other RFD'ers have said here, the likelyhood of a hacker busting into multiple accounts of his during the time frames stated and without his knowledge is next to nil. There's no doubt in my mind he isn't being truthful to you.

Get an IP log from the moderators and we'll see if he is indeed scamming you. You like to collect all the other evidence.. why not the IP logs?

Not truthful to me?.. maybe.. but you don't know him personally so you can judge him baselesslly like this.

(2) siuyiu gave his account info to someone to use, that person scammed me and he isn't taking responsibility for it.

I'd tend to lean more to this option than the (1) .

He should refund my money and HE should go after either himself, the person he gave his account info to, or this "supposed" hacker.

I don't think he should pay you back if he didn't 'commit' the deed.. Like I have said.. IP Logs... trace the EMT.. if he is 'real' scammer, then i'm sure he'll pony up. For a guy that frequents RedFlag and other forums selling stuff, I seriously doubt he is out there just to get your "$60" dollars. It's the classic example of 'why build up all this rep, just to screw it up on one transaction'

And now comes up an issue that you have to morally decide.......Are you going to PM me all of **siuyiu's** info such as address, name, etc...so I can give it to the police...?.

I will if I have good reason to.. as of right now.. I have no reason to PM you his full address. You were scammed 'after' he left the country, why should I give you his information.? I can only tell you that the address of Richard Kong is not his (Howard's) address, and I can confirm that he lives quite close to Pacific Mall and I can confirm that is indeed his car (white Corolla). And also being in his 'circle of friends', I have never heard of him knowing a Richard Kong (of course it's my opinion and I don't track him 24/7 with a GPS ;) ).

If he has nothing to hide, this shouldn't be an issue, should it.

People have a right to privacy too you know.. even if he has nothing to hide. It's not as simple as "oh, it's not my problem, let me give Joe Schmoe all my contact information". Who knows how you will use his information.

Edit.....By the way, the excuse "somebody hacked my account", let alone 3 or 4, is one of the lamest excuses on the internet...LOL

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and like I have mentioned many times.. it's not out of the realm of possibility for this to happen if he did indeed keep only one password tied to his email and usernames. Irresponsible, yes.

[azn_oo1]

u ppl are funny. man it took ages to read all this ****. i hope he gets his ass handed to him hahaha ppl like him should own up to what he has done.
GL With all of this PC

[malaco0219]

hmm..

very interesting thread.

the proof pcgeezer brought up seems to be more right in my eyes.

If money was sent and tied to Siuyiu's account, then he should just refund the money. Why hasnt he posted for so long?

Btw, pcgeezer, how did the police contact come along.

[ji2o0k]

wow, this is the wackiest scammer thread eva.......

good luck to all parties involved in sorting this out....

[diabolical7]

well since ppl have pics of his car, and its a white corolla that has modifications then its pretty easy to pick out, maybe we can all just key it once and that will be the end of this... justice is served and blah blah blah

[pcgeezer]

hmm..

very interesting thread.

the proof pcgeezer brought up seems to be more right in my eyes.

If money was sent and tied to Siuyiu's account, then he should just refund the money. Why hasnt he posted for so long?

Btw, pcgeezer, how did the police contact come along.

Exactly......I have proof that the EMT was sent to his account, I have proof the Secret Answer was PM'ed to his account here also. There have been piles of PM's & Emails sent to and from supposedly hacked accounts. I have a crappy CPU sitting here that I highly doubt a hacker would be kind enough to send...LOL...etc.

I just use common sense to come to conclusions. I'm not out looking for any crazy smoking gun answer.

Siuyiu on the other hand came in here for a couple posts, deny he had any involvement, even though they are his accounts and disappeared. You'd think he would want to be getting hold of IP logs, volunteer info, do what ever is needed to straighten this out.....silence !!!. And it just amazes me that he still used the same accounts and Email addy's that were supposedly hacked, to claim that he was hacked...LOL.

Most other RFD'ers that have enjoyed this thread are of the same conclusion.

To tell you the truth, I really couldn't care less about the money. The law of averages are, if I kept dealing here, sooner or later I would probably end up in a scam. I was willing to take the risk and still am. To me, it's a matter of principle and doing the right thing. I, like many RFD'ers here think the right thing is for him to refund the money and maybe he should take the responsibility to prove these claims of hackers. If he could prove it, show that some action was taken against them, I'd even give the lousy $60 bux back to him.

I'll be making a Police report some time this week with the info I have and see what comes of it.

I'm glad all you RFD'ers have enjoyed this thread. As ji2o0k mentioned, it is a wakey one indeed....LOL.

Cheers.

[malaco0219]

Exactly......I have proof that the EMT was sent to his account, I have proof the Secret Answer was PM'ed to his account here also. There have been piles of PM's & Emails sent to and from supposedly hacked accounts. I have a crappy CPU sitting here that I highly doubt a hacker would be kind enough to send...LOL...etc.

I just use common sense to come to conclusions. I'm not out looking for any crazy smoking gun answer.

Siuyiu on the other hand came in here for a couple posts, deny he had any involvement, even though they are his accounts and disappeared. You'd think he would want to be getting hold of IP logs, volunteer info, do what ever is needed to straighten this out.....silence !!!. And it just amazes me that he still used the same accounts and Email addy's that were supposedly hacked, to claim that he was hacked...LOL.

Most other RFD'ers that have enjoyed this thread are of the same conclusion.

To tell you the truth, I really couldn't care less about the money. The law of averages are, if I kept dealing here, sooner or later I would probably end up in a scam. I was willing to take the risk and still am. To me, it's a matter of principle and doing the right thing. I, like many RFD'ers here think the right thing is for him to refund the money and maybe he should take the responsibility to prove these claims of hackers. If he could prove it, show that some action was taken against them, I'd even give the lousy $60 bux back to him.

I'll be making a Police report some time this week with the info I have and see what comes of it.

I'm glad all you RFD'ers have enjoyed this thread. As ji2o0k mentioned, it is a wakey one indeed....LOL.

Cheers.

what i dont get, lol, is that if it was his friend or a hacker who used his account.. would the scammer be dumb enough to put money in the original user's account and not his own?

lol

geeze.. if u claim ur sister or brother or a hacker or something was messingaround and put 60 bucks in ur pocket, just give him back the money or something and get it over with lol

[mikescool]

i dun think the police will bother with 60 dollars lol

[rdtx2002]

well since ppl have pics of his car, and its a white corolla that has modifications then its pretty easy to pick out, maybe we can all just key it once and that will be the end of this... justice is served and blah blah blah

how is justice serve if you key up a persons car? Especially when the person has been out of Canada way before the OP was scammed?

Really..... I really want to know how justice is serve

[rdtx2002]

hmm..

very interesting thread.

the proof pcgeezer brought up seems to be more right in my eyes.

If money was sent and tied to Siuyiu's account, then he should just refund the money. Why hasnt he posted for so long?

Btw, pcgeezer, how did the police contact come along.

problem is... siuyiu@hotmail.com is tied to Richard Kong's account.. not the 'real' siuyiu.

[malaco0219]

problem is... siuyiu@hotmail.com is tied to Richard Kong's account.. not the 'real' siuyiu.

ok.. maybe the real siuyiu should bring some proof then.
if hes willing to talk and prove that he didnt scam, then it would be solved

[rdtx2002]

Siuyiu on the other hand came in here for a couple posts, deny he had any involvement, even though they are his accounts and disappeared. You'd think he would want to be getting hold of IP logs, volunteer info, do what ever is needed to straighten this out.....silence !!!. And it just amazes me that he still used the same accounts and Email addy's that were supposedly hacked, to claim that he was hacked...LOL.

why does he need to get the IP logs if on his own mind, he knows he didn't do it. You are the one that wants the money back, and it's not hard to PM Ryan or Derek about this matter. You just sit around and wait for replies... like i have mentioned before. He is not entitled to give out his personal information since he doesn't 'know' you. He is just viewing you as a guy that got scammed by some other guy that got access to his account.

To tell you the truth, I really couldn't care less about the money. The law of averages are, if I kept dealing here, sooner or later I would probably end up in a scam. I was willing to take the risk and still am. To me, it's a matter of principle and doing the right thing. I, like many RFD'ers here think the right thing is for him to refund the money and maybe he should take the responsibility to prove these claims of hackers. If he could prove it, show that some action was taken against them, I'd even give the lousy $60 bux back to him.

If a hacker or borrower took advantage of you, I see no reason why the 'real' owner should pony up $60 dollars to you.. You need to go after this Richard Kong person, not the 'real' siuyiu. You want your money back.. get the logs and trace the EMT.. like you said, you have the passwords, and email, see if you can trace it to the source. Why are you waiting for the 'real' one to give you your money back?.. it's not a matter of principle here. From what I know and what you know.. there are 3 people involved in this incident.

You, 'real' siuyiu, and Richard Kong. The timeline does not place the 'real' siuyiu at the scamming incident.. therefore it just leaves you and Richard Kong. By chance do you still have the envelope that the CPU came in?.. Canadapost would have stamped it already.. see which post office it came from.

I'll be making a Police report some time this week with the info I have and see what comes of it.

Quite honestly, the police ain't going to bother with $60.

[FlintBlade]

So, it really wasn't the real siuyiu? This thread is wacky.

[mikescool]

yeah that's what i said, 60 bucks is too little money. but yeah i hope u get ur money back.

btw this thread is jokes, i had to read it thru haha

[rdtx2002]

ok.. maybe the real siuyiu should bring some proof then.
if hes willing to talk and prove that he didnt scam, then it would be solved

I don't see how the 'real' guy would come out and talk now... pcgeezer has posted his car on RFD and many RFD'ers (whether they are talking truth or not) are inclinded to bash the car around. The pictures only went 'offline' when I started to post on this thread.

Thru his investigation, he has found out that 'real' siuyiu is not Richard Kong by name, but he is insistant that he wants 'real' siuyiu to pay him back and the 'real' siuyiu to go after Richard Kong. Sorry, it does not work this way.

The proof is quite simple:

- the 'real' siuyiu left for Hong Kong on January 10th and not coming back until March or April. I know this for a fact since i'm a personal friend.
- OP was scammed on the 29th by this Richard Kong

how does this place 'real' siuyiu as the guy that did the deed?.. (now, I don't pretend to know if he has an accomplice, but it's not like 'real' siuyiu needed 60 dollars since he already spend thousands on a plane ticket overseas)

the only 'evidence' that kind of ties 'real' siuyiu to this is the recent post about a laptop for sale and like i have stated.. he may have not have known about his account being stolen at the time of the post, but found out afterwards

[rdtx2002]

dbl post

[pcgeezer]

problem is... siuyiu@hotmail.com is tied to Richard Kong's account.. not the 'real' siuyiu.

Get a grip on reality....siuyiu@hotmail.com is the real siuyiu's account. He (the real siuyiu) has emailed me from it. And the answer for the EMT was given here to the "real" siuyiu's RFD account. The "real" siuyiu's Heatware is also connected with siuyiu@hotmail.com. You flap your gums a lot only with conjecture and not proof. You lost credit with me ages ago.

[rdtx2002]

Get a grip on reality....siuyiu@hotmail.com is the real siuyiu's account. He (the real siuyiu) has emailed me from it. And the answer for the EMT was given here to the "real" siuyiu's RFD account. The "real" siuyiu's Heatware is also connected with siuyiu@hotmail.com. You flap your gums a lot only with conjecture and not proof. You lost credit with me ages ago.

Yes, siuyiu@hotmail.com is an email address that he had registered before BUT HIS BANK ACCOUNT IS NOT TIED TO THAT EMAIL ADDRESS.. Are you not blind or are you hearing things from one ear and letting it come out form the next? He has also stated previously that he shares the same password around his multiple accounts on various sites. Irresponsible yes, I agree. But seeing that he was not involved in the transaction, how can you honestly pin it on 'real' siuyiu? Do I need to get you a scan of his intinery to 'prove' to you that he was out of town during the incident? Would that massage your ego?

It does not matter if the real 'siuyiu' emailed you from that account. The perputrator could easily just set up his email to his account without 'real' siuyiu knowing. If you had the computer smarts you would realize this.

It also doesn't matter if siuyiu@hotmail.com account is connected to Heatware. Like he/I have said before. This is an existing email of his that was 'stolen' because of poor password protection. You cannot just link things like:

'real' siuyiu email is siuyiu@hotmail.com, therefore I send EMT to there to a guy that is NOT 'real' siuyiu (Richard Kong), then I get scammed... seeing that siuyiu@hotmail.com is owned by 'real' siuyiu and that Heat is connected to the same account, he must be the scammer and not Richard Kong..

Do you see the lack of logic in your reasoning here? The 'scammer' could easily get his hotmail account because he shares the same password to email and RFD username. Log into RFD, get the secret password, then log in Hotmail, take your money, deleted all references on siuyiu@hotmail.com to the EMT and logged off. "real" siuyiu logs in and starts to email you about this situation and how he doesn't have anything to do with it.

If you are so certain the 'real' siuyiu scammed you. How do you explain how he was in Hong Kong while you were scammed in Toronto. Where is the proof that he physically mailed you the CPU while in Hong Kong.. does the envelope that the CPU have Hong Kong stamps on it? Your whole accusation of 'real' siuyiu ends here unless you can prove that he mailed it from Hong Kong. End of story.

And you last sentence just reeks with immaturity.

[TO_SH]

rdtx2002,

So did your friend (the real siuyiu) post the laptop for sale thread on Jan 31, 2007? Seeing the thread reads "Located in GTA area", "$550 shipped within Canada or pickup". Even if he was in HK, he could have posted this and could have a friend handling the actual local pickup or shipping the item for him. Same way, he could have accepted the EMT payment from pcgeezer and have a friend mail out the bad CPU. Saying he was out of the country doesn't mean he is not responsible for taking the money and shipping a bad part.

It seems like he didn't intend to scam pcgeezer for $60, maybe he wasn't aware that the CPU had bad pins and a different part #, but since the deal was done, he din't feel like giving a refund.

[rdtx2002]

rdtx2002,
So did your friend (the real siuyiu) post the laptop for sale thread on Jan 31, 2007? Seeing the thread reads "Located in GTA area", "$550 shipped within Canada or pickup". Even if he was in HK, he could have posted this and could have a friend handling the actual local pickup or shipping the item for him. Same way, he could have accepted the EMT payment from pcgeezer and have a friend mail out the bad CPU. Saying he was out of the country doesn't mean he is not responsible for taking the money and shipping a bad part.

I understand what you are talking about and don't dispute this. The only facts i'm disputing is that he is telling me that he never had a CPU for sale (you can check his post log, nothing in regards to a CPU for sale) and doesn't know who this Richard Kong guy is. He does have a laptop for sale since November and it would have been sold but the Buyer never showed up at a face to face meeting. He posted on RFD just to see if there are any takers, and if there is one, I think something would have been arranged. Is it a coincidence that his post coincided with OP being scammed?.. who knows, but it wasn't until after he realized that some guy 'took' his account to scam some guy. You are correct that he could have had a friend handle his laptop transaction. But he has no recollection of putting a CPU for sale and has decided to keep the laptop because of this mess that came up just now

It seems like he didn't intend to scam pcgeezer for $60, maybe he wasn't aware that the CPU had bad pins and a different part #, but since the deal was done, he din't feel like giving a refund.

The question is more like who is this Richard Kong guy.. the OP only thinks Richard Kong is the 'real' siuyiu when in fact, that is not his real name.

the 'real' one is insistant that siuyiu@hotmail.com is not tied to his bank account because there is no actual log of transaction on his end and he claims to not having a CPU for sale. and add to the fact his handwriting is not as 'neat' as the one on the envelope the CPU was shipped in.

What I say about his personality right now maybe be ignore but after knowing him since high school, he is not one to go after $60 because: 1. he does not need the money, 2. what is the use to scam for $60, 3. an organized person, 4. one of those types that saves money constantly and doesn't use it (hence point #1)

My only intention is to clear the 'real' siuyiu from this, being a close friend of his and from all my conversations with him, he is not one to scam for a measley $60.00.

[malaco0219]

I understand what you are talking about and don't dispute this. The only facts i'm disputing is that he is telling me that he never had a CPU for sale (you can check his post log, nothing in regards to a CPU for sale) and doesn't know who this Richard Kong guy is. He does have a laptop for sale since November and it would have been sold but the Buyer never showed up at a face to face meeting. He posted on RFD just to see if there are any takers, and if there is one, I think something would have been arranged. Is it a coincidence that his post coincided with OP being scammed?.. who knows, but it wasn't until after he realized that some guy 'took' his account to scam some guy. You are correct that he could have had a friend handle his laptop transaction. But he has no recollection of putting a CPU for sale and has decided to keep the laptop because of this mess that came up just now



The question is more like who is this Richard Kong guy.. the OP only thinks Richard Kong is the 'real' siuyiu when in fact, that is not his real name.

the 'real' one is insistant that siuyiu@hotmail.com is not tied to his bank account because there is no actual log of transaction on his end and he claims to not having a CPU for sale. and add to the fact his handwriting is not as 'neat' as the one on the envelope the CPU was shipped in.

What I say about his personality right now maybe be ignore but after knowing him since high school, he is not one to go after $60 because: 1. he does not need the money, 2. what is the use to scam for $60, 3. an organized person, 4. one of those types that saves money constantly and doesn't use it (hence point #1)

My only intention is to clear the 'real' siuyiu from this, being a close friend of his and from all my conversations with him, he is not one to scam for a measley $60.00.

ok, but to my point and pcgeezer's point, if he isnt the one who scammed, why does he not explain himself still after a few posts and leaves?

If he comes out and proves that hes not the scammer, all will be solved.

u keep saying his email is not tied to his own account, so prove it.
then all will be solved.

[rdtx2002]

ok, but to my point and pcgeezer's point, if he isnt the one who scammed, why does he not explain himself still after a few posts and leaves?

If he comes out and proves that hes not the scammer, all will be solved.

u keep saying his email is not tied to his own account, so prove it.
then all will be solved.

i'm saying his email is not tied to his own bank account. I'll see what I can get from him in regards to this and let you guys know.

What I don't understand is what is pcgeezer doing at the moment? Is he just waiting for people to 'find' Richard Kong for him?. Why does he not take the initiative to trace the funds? Why does he not ask the Admins for IP logs?

Why does he not explain himself?.. because at the present time he is afraid of the backlash of RFD posters now that they know what car he drives, where he usually frequents.. I know it's a not really a reason, but he told me he is afraid people will smash his car now and wants to stay clear from all this; especially when he didn't do anything. Even if everything is solved eventually, the damage has been done.

[pcgeezer]

I understand what you are talking about and don't dispute this. The only facts i'm disputing is that he is telling me that he never had a CPU for sale (you can check his post log, nothing in regards to a CPU for sale) and doesn't know who this Richard Kong guy is. He does have a laptop for sale since November and it would have been sold but the Buyer never showed up at a face to face meeting. He posted on RFD just to see if there are any takers, and if there is one, I think something would have been arranged. Is it a coincidence that his post coincided with OP being scammed?.. who knows, but it wasn't until after he realized that some guy 'took' his account to scam some guy. You are correct that he could have had a friend handle his laptop transaction. But he has no recollection of putting a CPU for sale and has decided to keep the laptop because of this mess that came up just now



The question is more like who is this Richard Kong guy.. the OP only thinks Richard Kong is the 'real' siuyiu when in fact, that is not his real name.

the 'real' one is insistant that siuyiu@hotmail.com is not tied to his bank account because there is no actual log of transaction on his end and he claims to not having a CPU for sale. and add to the fact his handwriting is not as 'neat' as the one on the envelope the CPU was shipped in.

What I say about his personality right now maybe be ignore but after knowing him since high school, he is not one to go after $60 because: 1. he does not need the money, 2. what is the use to scam for $60, 3. an organized person, 4. one of those types that saves money constantly and doesn't use it (hence point #1)

My only intention is to clear the 'real' siuyiu from this, being a close friend of his and from all my conversations with him, he is not one to scam for a measley $60.00.

rdtx2002.......

Your a joke. Waffling back and forth from point of view to point of view however it suits you. Like I Keep saying GET A GRIP ON REALITY and look at the facts and not your fantasized version of it. The more you flap your gums here, the more you look like the idiot you are to the rest of the RFD community. Take a look how not one single person here is going along with your BS, and WAKE UP...LOL

**MODS**.......it's time to lock this thread, the BS is starting to cover the floor and I'm afraid I'm going to step in it...!!!

[ji2o0k]

:arrowu:
come on pcgeezer......this is like a train wreck....people shouldn't be looking but they just can't help themselves.....

keep this thread alive so us RFDers find out how this plays out......it is too fascinating....

I am speechless to say the least....

[pcgeezer]

:arrowu:
come on pcgeezer......this is like a train wreck....people shouldn't be looking but they just can't help themselves.....

keep this thread alive so us RFDers find out how this plays out......it is too fascinating....

I am speechless to say the least....

ROTFLMAO.......OK, as long as you guy's are getting a kick out of it, I'll turn over ownership of this thread to you. Make sure you put your rubber boots on, it's getting thick and smelly. Try to keep an eye on our wonder child here, I'm afraid he might accidentally hurt himself...LOL.

As for me, I'm going to talk to a brick wall where I know I'll get a logical response...!!!. Remember, your in charge, when you become so awe-struck you can't take it any more, PM me and I'll have the mods lock it.

Have fun........LOL.

[malaco0219]

i'm saying his email is not tied to his own bank account. I'll see what I can get from him in regards to this and let you guys know.

What I don't understand is what is pcgeezer doing at the moment? Is he just waiting for people to 'find' Richard Kong for him?. Why does he not take the initiative to trace the funds? Why does he not ask the Admins for IP logs?

Why does he not explain himself?.. because at the present time he is afraid of the backlash of RFD posters now that they know what car he drives, where he usually frequents.. I know it's a not really a reason, but he told me he is afraid people will smash his car now and wants to stay clear from all this; especially when he didn't do anything. Even if everything is solved eventually, the damage has been done.

lol

hes just making him self look worse if he doesnt solve this, regardless if he really scammed or not

[Instagator]

I have to read 6 pages for 60 bucks? .......

Sorry, but it ain't worth my time...

[mikescool]

LOLLLLL wtf??????? Whoever scammed you is REALLY STUPID cuz WHY ONLY 60 BUCKS??????

[curtis]

I don't know anyone here, but there is no hard evidence that Siuyiu's accounts were not hijacked, and a fraud not commited.

PCgeezer's facts cannot prove beyond a doubt that the real Siuyiu did this trade, in fact, if the real guy is in HK, then it seems even more unlikely that he is involved - although if he is, someone else would have had to do the mailing on his behalf, meaning that there is still someone to chase, just not the actual Siuyiu guy.

This tread is hilarious. It's just a big rant with nobody having any idea what they're talking about.

[rdtx2002]

I don't know anyone here, but there is no hard evidence that Siuyiu's accounts were not hijacked, and a fraud not commited.

PCgeezer's facts cannot prove beyond a doubt that the real Siuyiu did this trade, in fact, if the real guy is in HK, then it seems even more unlikely that he is involved - although if he is, someone else would have had to do the mailing on his behalf, meaning that there is still someone to chase, just not the actual Siuyiu guy.

which is the point i'm trying to make here.. pcgeezer can't prove beyond a doubt that Richard Kong = real siuyiu and the real siuyiu is in HK.. heck.. i took him to the airport man...

Anyhow.. I have spoken to the 'real' siuyiu again and still trying to get him to screenshot the account info to me.. but then again pcgeezer says he knows people in the police force.. so why not trace the money then?

[rdtx2002]

rdtx2002.......

Your a joke. Waffling back and forth from point of view to point of view however it suits you. Like I Keep saying GET A GRIP ON REALITY and look at the facts and not your fantasized version of it. The more you flap your gums here, the more you look like the idiot you are to the rest of the RFD community. Take a look how not one single person here is going along with your BS, and WAKE UP...LOL

**MODS**.......it's time to lock this thread, the BS is starting to cover the floor and I'm afraid I'm going to step in it...!!!

the BS is that you have not done ANYTHING to rectify this incident. It's not a fantasy here.. you said you contacted police.. you said that siuyiu does not know what is coming to him.. where is the evidence that you did anything?

you are just pissed off that I poked a lot of holes in your argument against siuyiu.

[rdtx2002]

lol

hes just making him self look worse if he doesnt solve this, regardless if he really scammed or not

I will agree with that.. i'm just relaying you what he tells me.. don't shoot the messenger

[NavSingh]

Its on Siuyiu to pay back pcgeezer because it was his account that got hacked...and hes responsible for it..so HE should give pcgeezer back the money and ASK HIM FOR HELP in getting this other guy thats stole his account.

The issue is pretty simple and so is the solution and Siuyiu keeps incriminating himself with his responses so the OP has total right to get upset.

And WtH would the scammer send the actual part?? Thats why the OP has the right to get super suspicious

[ji2o0k]

Its on Siuyiu to pay back pcgeezer because it was his account that got hacked
And WtH would the scammer send the actual part?? Thats why the OP has the right to get super suspicious
I don't agree with this.....if someone hacked into my account, I don't see why I should pay the person that got scammed. Yeah sure, it was my account but I didn't want it to get hacked.

However, I would try and help the person that got scammed as much as possible to rectify the situation. If it was a RFDer that I had dealt with before and has a good rep, I would probably either split the loss with him OR even pay the entire amount of the scam in this case.

Just trying to see things from siuyiu's perspective if indeed he got hacked (which again is extremely bizarre that the scammer sent the part and included a return address).

Also keep in mind that the real siuyiu is in HK. If I was in HK, I wouldn't be spending a lot of my time on RFD. I might check it for about 5 minutes but not enough to post to resolve the situation.

Again, this is one wacked situation and like I mentioned before, it is like a train wreck, I just can't look away !!

[JAC]

And WtH would the scammer send the actual part?? Thats why the OP has the right to get super suspicious

I see I'm not the only calling shenanigans on the whole "hacked" story....

[700mb80min]

I will agree with that.. i'm just relaying you what he tells me.. don't shoot the messenger

Did i miss the part about you being his agent ....i mean messenger . Can it be possible that he answer for himself ? Seriously , is there a reason he isn`t responding .............

[ji2o0k]

Can it be possible that he answer for himself ? Seriously , is there a reason he isn`t responding .............
well if I was in HK, I think I would have better things to do then sit down in front of the computer and type up a lengthy response.

Plus, it was mentioned that he is scared to respond, scared of the bashing RFDers would lay down.

dunno.....this thing is crazy....but I can see both sides and why they would react the way they did.

The "Richard Kong" must be laughing his ass off.......

[malaco0219]

well if I was in HK, I think I would have better things to do then sit down in front of the computer and type up a lengthy response.

Plus, it was mentioned that he is scared to respond, scared of the bashing RFDers would lay down.

dunno.....this thing is crazy....but I can see both sides and why they would react the way they did.

The "Richard Kong" must be laughing his ass off.......

well.
maybe he wouldnt bother with this because he doesnt feel responsible
but its true that his account did all this and he should clean his name to fix things up at least, rather than have a messenger do his talking, making him look worse.

[diabolical7]

Its on Siuyiu to pay back pcgeezer because it was his account that got hacked...and hes responsible for it..so HE should give pcgeezer back the money and ASK HIM FOR HELP in getting this other guy thats stole his account.

The issue is pretty simple and so is the solution and Siuyiu keeps incriminating himself with his responses so the OP has total right to get upset.

And WtH would the scammer send the actual part?? Thats why the OP has the right to get super suspicious

i concur with your statement, and if this scammer or supposed innocent victim is found, should be dragged out of his/her car and beaten... lmao i love that line from news radio... but to all seriousness theres no evidence to prove this scammer is right, and he keeps backpeddling the main questions op wants answered

[FOS]

I think at the very least, since Siuyiu has offered to prove he's in Hong Kong (scans of his passports/stamped boarding tickets), we should at least hold him to it. Providing that evidence first, will be one step in favour of your alibi (Siuyiu). As far as the situation goes, it seems as though the OP has posted this more as an attention grabber (yes we all get a kick out of this, is that what your goal was?), rather than expecting to rectify this problem. The topic could be argued all day, but in the end you're a day late of getting your money back, or at least figuring out if Siuyiu is the actual scammer.

[rdtx2002]

well.
maybe he wouldnt bother with this because he doesnt feel responsible
but its true that his account did all this and he should clean his name to fix things up at least, rather than have a messenger do his talking, making him look worse.

I think you hit it on the head perfectly.. he does not feel the responsibility to aid pcgeezer get his money back. And I agree this thread will knock him down a few knotches in terms of credibility.. but there is nothing much I can do to change that.

[rdtx2002]

I think at the very least, since Siuyiu has offered to prove he's in Hong Kong (scans of his passports/stamped boarding tickets), we should at least hold him to it. Providing that evidence first, will be one step in favour of your alibi (Siuyiu). As far as the situation goes, it seems as though the OP has posted this more as an attention grabber (yes we all get a kick out of this, is that what your goal was?), rather than expecting to rectify this problem. The topic could be argued all day, but in the end you're a day late of getting your money back, or at least figuring out if Siuyiu is the actual scammer.

I'll see if i can get those 'scans' from him next time i speak to him. Though I have no idea if he has access to a scanner over there or not.

we shall see.

I too am thinking that this post is just for the sake of attention grabbing.. numerous times the OP has claimed to file a police report for the 60 dollars.. but on the other hand.. he doens't care for the 60 dollars and it's a matter of principle. He has the EMT logs, he has the emails and passwords, he has the actual contact information of the scammer.. why has he not attempted to trace the funds?.. why has there been no attempt to get IP logs? Why is he insistant that the owner of the account (not the scammer) pay him back?

[rdtx2002]

Its on Siuyiu to pay back pcgeezer because it was his account that got hacked...

why is it on siuyiu?.. it's not like he intended for his account to be hacked.. are you saying that if your account was hacked and some dude was scammed by your hacked account for say 500 dollars.. you are actually going to pay the scammed guy (who you don't even know) 500 dollars and then proceed to ask him for help to get back the 500 dollars from the scammer that you paid out to the scammed guy?

Am I missing the logic here? Do you know what you are saying here?

and hes responsible for it..so HE should give pcgeezer back the money and ASK HIM FOR HELP in getting this other guy thats stole his account.

see above post.

If my account was hacked and some guy was scammed; I ain't paying the scammed guy the money he lost. I will help him find the scammer but why should I fork out money that was not involved in the transation on my end?

[amph1bius]

how about you, rdtx2002, just forget the whole thread, because you're not directly involved.

[aKiu]

personally, i smell bs. if siuyiu is really innocent, why is he hiding himself? to be afraid of losing rep? the way i see it, if he doesnt come clean, he really NEEDS to lay low

cause if he didnt do anything wrong, then show us all, and then no one would bother doin anythin to his car or anything.

from my experience if ur account is hacked, the hacker usually will change all ur pws on u, and u wont even get ur account back, let alone, the "real" siuyiu went back onto his "hacked" account and then replied to pcgeezer?

even if pcgeezer has no proof, the stuff he says makes a lot more sense than what rdx is sayin... rdx is just throwin a lotta hypothetical what ifs that only is legit through technicalities that dont make sense

frig, SIUYIU should come here, post up himself that he's innocent, give his phone number contact

or OP should trace it down instead of all this talk, and get to the bottom of this. Why OP just disappeared without a trace is also suspicious to me. Maybe he found out the truth and didnt say anything?

both ways, me persoanlly i would not deal with siuyiu after reading this, since that account is jeopardized

and SOLVE THIS motherf'ker please!@!!!!!

[Supershyguy]

I don't agree with this.....if someone hacked into my account, I don't see why I should pay the person that got scammed. Yeah sure, it was my account but I didn't want it to get hacked.

However, I would try and help the person that got scammed as much as possible to rectify the situation. If it was a RFDer that I had dealt with before and has a good rep, I would probably either split the loss with him OR even pay the entire amount of the scam in this case.

Just trying to see things from siuyiu's perspective if indeed he got hacked (which again is extremely bizarre that the scammer sent the part and included a return address).

Also keep in mind that the real siuyiu is in HK. If I was in HK, I wouldn't be spending a lot of my time on RFD. I might check it for about 5 minutes but not enough to post to resolve the situation.

Again, this is one wacked situation and like I mentioned before, it is like a train wreck, I just can't look away !!

exactly. he is actually in my car club. maybe I will ask him for you.

lets give him a chance to clear his name

[ji2o0k]

I too am thinking that this post is just for the sake of attention grabbing.. numerous times the OP has claimed to file a police report for the 60 dollars.. but on the other hand.. he doens't care for the 60 dollars and it's a matter of principle.
If I received what pcgeezer received in the mail, I would definitely start up a thread. Sure it is ONLY $60 but it is the principle of the matter.

To receive a busted up CPU with poor packaging, hell I would be mad just for the stupidity of it all. On top of that, siuyiu replies it wasn't him....things don't add up and I would be trying to find out what the hell is going on here.
personally, i smell bs. if siuyiu is really innocent, why is he hiding himself? to be afraid of losing rep? the way i see it, if he doesnt come clean, he really NEEDS to lay low
again, if the dood is really in HK, then why the heck would I waste my time on RFD when I should be having fun in HK?

Why is he hiding himself? Well take a look at his posting history. The guy has been on RFD since 2002 but has 280 posts to his name. Clearly he isn't that active in posting and he probably doesn't sell too much on here. So is it worth the headache of trying to resolve this? Maybe it is easier to just lose the account....

Or maybe siuyiu is thinking he will resolve this once he gets back from HK?
Or maybe he really is the scammer and is having a barrel of laughs over this

Who knows......

Crazy, crazy situation and we might never see the resolution of this....which is unfortunate.

[Supershyguy]

Its on Siuyiu to pay back pcgeezer because it was his account that got hacked...

whats wrong with you? lol

if some one used your bank account to take out $20,000 loan, I guess you will feel right to pay it back cause it was your account?

but I am not sure if he scammed or not, we'll see

[aKiu]

If I received what pcgeezer received in the mail, I would definitely start up a thread. Sure it is ONLY $60 but it is the principle of the matter.

To receive a busted up CPU with poor packaging, hell I would be mad just for the stupidity of it all. On top of that, siuyiu replies it wasn't him....things don't add up and I would be trying to find out what the hell is going on here.

again, if the dood is really in HK, then why the heck would I waste my time on RFD when I should be having fun in HK?

Why is he hiding himself? Well take a look at his posting history. The guy has been on RFD since 2002 but has 280 posts to his name. Clearly he isn't that active in posting and he probably doesn't sell too much on here. So is it worth the headache of trying to resolve this? Maybe it is easier to just lose the account....

Or maybe siuyiu is thinking he will resolve this once he gets back from HK?
Or maybe he really is the scammer and is having a barrel of laughs over this

Who knows......

Crazy, crazy situation and we might never see the resolution of this....which is unfortunate.

u run a good pt that if he doesnt care to RFD any further, then he wouldnt waste his time postin up hre.

but just think about it: if this was u and u didnt do anythin wrong and some guy was gettin all ticked off about a situation directly involving u

wouldn't u be a bit concerned of what he's sayin, and makin sure u clear ur name? like i personally wouldnt feel good until i hav settled any beef that anyone has against me, thats called bein a good reliable person to deal with.

i mean im not sayin he's a scammer, but his actions are pretty bizarre for someone who is really legit...

[ji2o0k]

wouldn't u be a bit concerned of what he's sayin, and makin sure u clear ur name? like i personally wouldnt feel good until i hav settled any beef that anyone has against me, thats called bein a good reliable person to deal with.

i mean im not sayin he's a scammer, but his actions are pretty bizarre for someone who is really legit...
Yup, personally I would try my best to get to the bottom of it, for sure. Especially IF someone hacked into my account. I would be ticked off about that and try and get this bastid myself.

But again, IF siuyiu (the real, not-scammer one) is in HK and I was siuyiu, then I would resolve this when I get back in town.

However, I would tell PCGeezer that I would resolve this when I get back and would gladly try and help out. Which doesn't really help PCGeezer since I could be out of town for weeks.....which means he is out of $$ and a CPU.

Tough tough situation and most likely this will die down and become a forgotten thread in the heap of other scammer threads.....

[Psubs]

personally, i smell bs. if siuyiu is really innocent, why is he hiding himself? to be afraid of losing rep? the way i see it, if he doesnt come clean, he really NEEDS to lay low

cause if he didnt do anything wrong, then show us all, and then no one would bother doin anythin to his car or anything.

from my experience if ur account is hacked, the hacker usually will change all ur pws on u, and u wont even get ur account back, let alone, the "real" siuyiu went back onto his "hacked" account and then replied to pcgeezer?

even if pcgeezer has no proof, the stuff he says makes a lot more sense than what rdx is sayin... rdx is just throwin a lotta hypothetical what ifs that only is legit through technicalities that dont make sense

frig, SIUYIU should come here, post up himself that he's innocent, give his phone number contact

or OP should trace it down instead of all this talk, and get to the bottom of this. Why OP just disappeared without a trace is also suspicious to me. Maybe he found out the truth and didnt say anything?

both ways, me persoanlly i would not deal with siuyiu after reading this, since that account is jeopardized

and SOLVE THIS motherf'ker please!@!!!!!

Isn't he still in HK? :confused:

1. Take a cell phone picture of his passport stamp.
2. Picture of bank book updated?

[rdtx2002]

or OP should trace it down instead of all this talk, and get to the bottom of this. Why OP just disappeared without a trace is also suspicious to me. Maybe he found out the truth and didnt say anything?

this has been a question i have been ask for a few days now...

both ways, me persoanlly i would not deal with siuyiu after reading this, since that account is jeopardized

and SOLVE THIS motherf'ker please!@!!!!!

I don't expect people to deal with siuyiu anymore.. siuyiu will have to come back under a new name and rebuild the rep again unless of course he clears himself out of this mess.

[rdtx2002]

how about you, rdtx2002, just forget the whole thread, because you're not directly involved.

I will once this mess is solved.. I do have an obligation as a close friend to help him when trouble arises :)

[rdtx2002]

Isn't he still in HK? :confused:

1. Take a cell phone picture of his passport stamp.
2. Picture of bank book updated?

well.. he won't do the number 2 part because he has no reason to at the moment. he insists that the OP should trace the EMT.. he has all the details anyways.

and yes.. he is in Hong Kong.. until MArch/April.

[rdtx2002]

u run a good pt that if he doesnt care to RFD any further, then he wouldnt waste his time postin up hre.

but just think about it: if this was u and u didnt do anythin wrong and some guy was gettin all ticked off about a situation directly involving u

wouldn't u be a bit concerned of what he's sayin, and makin sure u clear ur name? like i personally wouldnt feel good until i hav settled any beef that anyone has against me, thats called bein a good reliable person to deal with.

i mean im not sayin he's a scammer, but his actions are pretty bizarre for someone who is really legit...

well... ti's more like.......

A is scammed by B hacking into C's account.

C is of the mentality that it is not his problem that B took A's money.

C comes to the conclusion of 'why bother', A already has the info necessary to get his money back. I'm in HK and I don't want to bother with this at the moment. I went to HK before A was scammed... ain't my problem.

yet A is sitting here doing nothing from what I have seen.



Like I have said.. it is a bit irresponsible of C..

[pcgeezer]

well... ti's more like.......

A is scammed by B hacking into C's account.

C is of the mentality that it is not his problem that B took A's money.

C comes to the conclusion of 'why bother', A already has the info necessary to get his money back. I'm in HK and I don't want to bother with this at the moment. I went to HK before A was scammed... ain't my problem.

yet A is sitting here doing nothing from what I have seen.



Like I have said.. it is a bit irresponsible of C..

Just checking to make sure you guy's haven't burnt the place down yet...LOL. This is a somewhat good analogy with a couple flaws.

(1) It hasn't been proved there is even a "B".

(2) C appears to show no interest in proving there is a "B".

(3) "A" knows when to stop flogging the dead horse if "C" shows no interest in proving there is a "B" and that this supposed "B" did indeed hack multiple accounts of "C"

(4) "A"...as his name might suggest, has "been around" and hasn't just finished suckling on his mothers teet.

(5) For "A" to say $60 is a drop in the bucket to him would be a huge overstatement so as "A" has said before, he really doesn't care about the money. It's all about principles and doing the right thing to him.

(6) "A" is tired of hearing "D", who is "C's" self appointed voice, flap his gums with conjecture and supply no proof to back his or these claims. It gets no where and solves nothing.

(7) "A" has a pile of proof that "C" did it in the form of EMT receipts, Interac receipts, Emails, PM"s, etc. Why should "A" waist his time trying to prove there is a "B". He doesn't need to. When people come a knock'n, it's "C" that better be able to prove there's a "B". The onus isn't on "A" to prove there is a "B".

Now....back to your regularly scheduled programing.

[malaco0219]

well.. he won't do the number 2 part because he has no reason to at the moment. he insists that the OP should trace the EMT.. he has all the details anyways.

and yes.. he is in Hong Kong.. until MArch/April.

are you siuyiu using someone else's account?
lol

i dont see whyyou're defending him so much.. even as a close friend.. 're just dragging trouble onto yourself

[curtis]

Just checking to make sure you guy's haven't burnt the place down yet...LOL. This is a somewhat good analogy with a couple flaws.

(1) It hasn't been proved there is even a "B".
He is in Hong Kong. That doesn't prove B exists, however it is enough to question whether there is a strong possibility.

(2) C appears to show no interest in proving there is a "B".
Why don't you wait till he's back in Toronto? It's a pain in the ass to do something like that over the internet, especially over a $60 sum.

(3) "A" knows when to stop flogging the dead horse if "C" shows no interest in proving there is a "B" and that this supposed "B" did indeed hack multiple accounts of "C"

(4) "A"...as his name might suggest, has "been around" and hasn't just finished suckling on his mothers teet.
Pure speculation.

(5) For "A" to say $60 is a drop in the bucket to him would be a huge overstatement so as "A" has said before, he really doesn't care about the money. It's all about principles and doing the right thing to him.
If you're so anxious and amount of money has no influence, fly him back to Toronto and then back out to Hong Kong. It may be his scammed account, and he may have an obligation to proove this in due time, but the current situation is that he's out of the country. It's not unreasonable to have him clear this up within say a week of his returning.

(6) "A" is tired of hearing "D", who is "C's" self appointed voice, flap his gums with conjecture and supply no proof to back his or these claims. It gets no where and solves nothing.
Perhaps you need new glasses so you can read and think before posting on and on with no firm conclusion.

(7) "A" has a pile of proof that "C" did it in the form of EMT receipts, Interac receipts, Emails, PM"s, etc. Why should "A" waist his time trying to prove there is a "B". He doesn't need to. When people come a knock'n, it's "C" that better be able to prove there's a "B". The onus isn't on "A" to prove there is a "B".
You have no proof. You have evidence.

Now....back to your regularly scheduled programing.

Just goto the police. Why are you trying so hard when clearly, he's not replying?

[pcgeezer]

Just goto the police. Why are you trying so hard when clearly, he's not replying?

LOL....Your a real prime one.

"A" knows when to stop flogging the dead horse if "C" shows no interest in proving there is a "B" and that this supposed "B" did indeed hack multiple accounts of "C"

Who's trying. Couple posts here and there. As mentioned before, a police report will be filed with the info I have. Don't get your shite knicks in a knot, I know I'm not.

[Supershyguy]

well I did my part. I asked around and here are some of the feedback I got from our members.

1) "I got a few things from him and sold him a few, no problem."
2) "same here...i bought a new 160GB HD off of him a couple of years back."
3) "i've seen him driving around a few times. i don't think he's the type to scam anyone, muchless for only $60"


then again feedbacks is not going to help right now.

but its easy for you to find out which account your money went into isnt it? I mean the person's name, not just the email?

[Supershyguy]

Who's trying. Couple posts here and there. As mentioned before, a police report will be filed with the info I have. Don't get your shite knicks in a knot, I know I'm not.

so just chill out about posting all his personal info until you have the facts.

If he did do it. do what ever you want to his car and his address and phone number. but untill then maybe you should give him some time.

and did the package you received require a signature? if so maybe that person that sold it to you (might or might not be Siuyiu) wants to make sure you wont be able to get the $60 back?

lol I dont know any more seems so much work for $60

[Supershyguy]

well.. he won't do the number 2 part because he has no reason to at the moment. he insists that the OP should trace the EMT.. he has all the details anyways.

and yes.. he is in Hong Kong.. until MArch/April.

Actually, it wouldnt matter if I am in HK, China or anywhere in the world. if someone said that I scammed them and I didnt. I would post up my online banking statement right away just to shut him up and stop the guy from posting all my info online. or any info that can clean my name.

[siuyiu]

9 pages.... wow

neways

heres the pic of the passport stamp here, thats all i can do in hk here for u
and i'm not gonna post up my account info up here for you guys to play around with on this public place

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/siuyiuji/pb.jpg

but rather then keep talking and talking and spreading heatred online with car photos, phone numbers blah blah blah before u find out the truth, why don't pcgeezer use the time and efford to trace :

a: whose BANK ACCOUNT does the emt money goes to
b: who mail the cpu out
c: where does the cpu come from
d: police report
e: who the X richard kong is

pcgeezer u've been saying will get police files, detective blah blah blah for weeks but u still saying "a police report will be filed with the info I have" which means u haven't do anything yet.

police have the authority to trace ppl's bank account and personal info

not you
i want to find out who steal my account to give me so much shxx too, but i won't give u $60 for something i did not do

u said i go through all this to scam u $60, how can i know u r not going through all this and scam me $60?

i dunno u and u dunno me so we'll never trust each other, why not use a legal way and ask police to solve this problem rather then keep arguing online?

[pcgeezer]

Thanks for your post siuyiu.



but rather then keep talking and talking and spreading heatred online with car photos, phone numbers blah blah blah before u find out the truth

If you read through this thread I hope you get the impression that I have no hatred, but find this situation rather amusing. I have actually tried to quell the ones that are advocating "smashing cars".

pcgeezer u've been saying will get police files, detective blah blah blah for weeks but u still saying "a police report will be filed with the info I have" which means u haven't do anything yet.

I'll file the police report. Just trying to get as much info as possible. Exactly what have you done to back up your claims. Did you give your account info to someone to use...?.


police have the authority to trace ppl's bank account and personal info not you

Exactly...and that's why I've stopped flogging that dead horse. I will however make the odd post to clarify an issue that others have brought up.


i want to find out who steal my account to give me so much shxx too, but i won't give u $60 for something i did not do

So.....what have you done to back up your claims and find out who supposedly hacked your accounts...?. I feel you have an obligation to do this and not just make a post that basically said, "it's not me, to bad" and disappear.

u said i go through all this to scam u $60, how can i know u r not going through all this and scam me $60?

I do have a lot of (LOL...I will now call it) evidence that points to you and your accounts.

i dunno u and u dunno me so we'll never trust each other, why not use a legal way and ask police to solve this problem rather then keep arguing online?

I really don't see this as arguing on my part but rather a discussion and fact finding mission. What is posted by others, be it pro or con, is their business and their opinions, not mine. Don't get them mixed up.

Thanks again for your post. Have a great time in HK. It would be appreciated if you can do whatever you can from where you are to back up your claims of hackers. Until then, sorry, with the info I have, it's still siuyiu and siuyiu's accounts that did it.


Cheers.

[rdtx2002]

Just checking to make sure you guy's haven't burnt the place down yet...LOL. This is a somewhat good analogy with a couple flaws.

(1) It hasn't been proved there is even a "B".

(2) C appears to show no interest in proving there is a "B".

(3) "A" knows when to stop flogging the dead horse if "C" shows no interest in proving there is a "B" and that this supposed "B" did indeed hack multiple accounts of "C"

(4) "A"...as his name might suggest, has "been around" and hasn't just finished suckling on his mothers teet.

(5) For "A" to say $60 is a drop in the bucket to him would be a huge overstatement so as "A" has said before, he really doesn't care about the money. It's all about principles and doing the right thing to him.

(6) "A" is tired of hearing "D", who is "C's" self appointed voice, flap his gums with conjecture and supply no proof to back his or these claims. It gets no where and solves nothing.

(7) "A" has a pile of proof that "C" did it in the form of EMT receipts, Interac receipts, Emails, PM"s, etc. Why should "A" waist his time trying to prove there is a "B". He doesn't need to. When people come a knock'n, it's "C" that better be able to prove there's a "B". The onus isn't on "A" to prove there is a "B".

Now....back to your regularly scheduled programing.


your evidence has many holes and wouldn't hold up in court anyways (if this were like a murder case).. you can't prove beyond a shadow of doubt that it is the 'real' siuyiu.

:)

[rdtx2002]

Actually, it wouldnt matter if I am in HK, China or anywhere in the world. if someone said that I scammed them and I didnt. I would post up my online banking statement right away just to shut him up and stop the guy from posting all my info online. or any info that can clean my name.

agreed.. but the fact he is in HK just proves his alibi that pcgeezer can't attack ;)

[Supershyguy]

9 pages.... wow

neways

heres the pic of the passport stamp here, thats all i can do in hk here for u
and i'm not gonna post up my account info up here for you guys to play around with on this public place

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/siuyiuji/pb.jpg

but rather then keep talking and talking and spreading heatred online with car photos, phone numbers blah blah blah before u find out the truth, why don't pcgeezer use the time and efford to trace :

a: whose BANK ACCOUNT does the emt money goes to
b: who mail the cpu out
c: where does the cpu come from
d: police report
e: who the X richard kong is

pcgeezer u've been saying will get police files, detective blah blah blah for weeks but u still saying "a police report will be filed with the info I have" which means u haven't do anything yet.

police have the authority to trace ppl's bank account and personal info

not you
i want to find out who steal my account to give me so much shxx too, but i won't give u $60 for something i did not do

u said i go through all this to scam u $60, how can i know u r not going through all this and scam me $60?

i dunno u and u dunno me so we'll never trust each other, why not use a legal way and ask police to solve this problem rather then keep arguing online?


Well there we go, siuyiu took the first step.

[pcgeezer]

agreed.. but the fact he is in HK just proves his alibi that pcgeezer can't attack ;)

Your a real turd ya know rdtx2002. Your not helping siuyiu's position at all. If I was siuyiu, I'd definitely tell you to take a hike. You don't even make a good "forum lawyer" because your incapable of using common sense and looking at the facts for what they are are not what you believe them to be.

If I was you siuyiu, I'd tell this idiot to get lost and stop making accusations for you.

[pcgeezer]

your evidence has many holes and wouldn't hold up in court anyways (if this were like a murder case).. you can't prove beyond a shadow of doubt that it is the 'real' siuyiu.

:)

You must be some sort of law student that has had a lobotomy. Your the only one that is making the Federal Case out of this by your BS and rambling on about stuff that you know nothing about. You haven't a clue what PM's, Emails, Receipts, etc that are out there between me and real siuyiu and the supposed hacker siuyiu.

You should really stop making yourself look like the fool you are.

[JAC]

well... ti's more like.......

A is scammed by B hacking into C's account.

Yet for some strange reason, "B" shipped "A" a CPU.

And then "C" disappears, to Hong Kong (for which we have only your word.)

LOL. Your theory is asinine. The whole "Lone Gunman" theory was better contructed than your rubbish.

For all we know, you are "C" posting under a second account; that's a hell of a lot more plausible.

[rdtx2002]

Yet for some strange reason, "B" shipped "A" a CPU.

yes it is strange.

And then "C" disappears, to Hong Kong (for which we have only your word.)

are you even reading the thread?.. the 'real' siuyiu posted his passport stamp on date of entry.. January 11, 2007.. he has been in HK ever since and before the OP was scammed.

LOL. Your theory is asinine. The whole "Lone Gunman" theory was better contructed than your rubbish.

For all we know, you are "C" posting under a second account; that's a hell of a lot more plausible.

I suggest you to 'correctly' follow the thread and think before you post. As for C posting under a second account.. you are quite the conspiracy theorist.. :)

[rdtx2002]

Your a real turd ya know rdtx2002. Your not helping siuyiu's position at all. If I was siuyiu, I'd definitely tell you to take a hike. You don't even make a good "forum lawyer" because your incapable of using common sense and looking at the facts for what they are are not what you believe them to be.

If I was you siuyiu, I'd tell this idiot to get lost and stop making accusations for you.

Don't call me a turd just because I poked holes in your 'smart' investigation. For all we know you are just seeking attention.. you post you were scammed, boast that you gave 'friends' on the force.. and play all macho.. but i'll stop there... the 'attitude' you took towards your investigation is seriously flawed.

and you couldn't even prove that the 'real' siuyiu is Richard Kong.. how does that make you a good 'forum lawyer' also?

If I were you.. i wouldn't even think about insisting the 'real' siuyiu to pay money back when Richard Kong has it..

and if I were you, I would make 'sure' the information is correct before I wrongfully accuse someone, post their pics of the car on the thread, and made sure that 'real' siuyiu is Richard Kong first. You could have easily posted your situation without the need to full blown transparency and having everyone know. :)

but seeing that the 'real' siuyiu is back and provided some stuff, lets see what happens.

[van]

Quite honestly, the police ain't going to bother with $60.

Unfortunately I would have to agree with that. Especially when some police deparments are tied up with big corporate fraud, small cases will usually get placed way deep under a pile of more important matters. Unless there has clearly been a crime commited, like fraud that involves large sums of money, they will probably tell you that this is a civil matter and to pursue it in small claims court.

[Supershyguy]

Don't call me a turd just because I poked holes in your 'smart' investigation. For all we know you are just seeking attention.. you post you were scammed, boast that you gave 'friends' on the force.. and play all macho.. but i'll stop there... the 'attitude' you took towards your investigation is seriously flawed.

and you couldn't even prove that the 'real' siuyiu is Richard Kong.. how does that make you a good 'forum lawyer' also?

If I were you.. i wouldn't even think about insisting the 'real' siuyiu to pay money back when Richard Kong has it..

and if I were you, I would make 'sure' the information is correct before I wrongfully accuse someone, post their pics of the car on the thread, and made sure that 'real' siuyiu is Richard Kong first. You could have easily posted your situation without the need to full blown transparency and having everyone know. :)

but seeing that the 'real' siuyiu is back and provided some stuff, lets see what happens.

if Richard Kong really did do it, then he is pretty stupid for putting his name there when he shipped out the package. so stop with the "Siuyiu" is not Rachard Kong stuff. besides we all know that Siuyiu's name is Howard. lol

Siuyiu doesnt seem like someone that would do something like this. but then again I dont know him that well.

[rdtx2002]

if Richard Kong really did do it, then he is pretty stupid for putting his name there when he shipped out the package. so stop with the "Siuyiu" is not Rachard Kong stuff. besides we all know that Siuyiu's name is Howard. lol

Siuyiu doesnt seem like someone that would do something like this. but then again I dont know him that well.

it'll be 'out of character' if he did something like that. That is for sure.

[hp]

After all the enterainment, I think the one thing that we all learned here is not to do any deals with Siuyiu until things clear up.

What's to say that someone else won't hack into his account and posing as him again.

I do find it really amusing that a scammer would actually pay to ship a product when there is no COD. This has to be the "honestest" scammer that has come to light.

[ji2o0k]

This has to be the "honestest" scammer that has come to light.
I think the correct word would be "bestest" scammer..........

[aKiu]

haha... very honest scammer indeed

i have a suspicion rdx is really siuyiu as well... why would a friend work so hard to fight off something that is not his own business

im sorry but i dont care how good friends u are wit someone, friends just dont post for friends like that

ive seen my fair share of scams as well to kno that ppl are known to log onto their friends account and defend themself through that friend...

pcgeezer ur not gonna win ur $60 bak. but what u can do is go trace that bank account that is connected to siuyiu's account so we can all find out the final verdict...

i mean what are u waitin for... take some real action PLEASE... suspense is killin me

this is the part where we must see... because if the glove does not fit, you must acquit

[malaco0219]

haha... very honest scammer indeed

i have a suspicion rdx is really siuyiu as well... why would a friend work so hard to fight off something that is not his own business

im sorry but i dont care how good friends u are wit someone, friends just dont post for friends like that

ive seen my fair share of scams as well to kno that ppl are known to log onto their friends account and defend themself through that friend...

pcgeezer ur not gonna win ur $60 bak. but what u can do is go trace that bank account that is connected to siuyiu's account so we can all find out the final verdict...

i mean what are u waitin for... take some real action PLEASE... suspense is killin me

this is the part where we must see... because if the glove does not fit, you must acquit

i mentinoed that a couple posts back that siuyiu might be using rdx's account
whether he scammed or not, he shoudl step forward and explain himself.

him not explaining himself makes him look even worse, and rdx defending him is very suspicious as well.

god.. i'm sorry.. but how stupid can ppl get.. all he has to do is step forward and prove himself and he's free to go.

[DJXP]

just some observations, i dont want a reply to it from it as i likely wont be reading this thread after i post this. there isn't any real way for siuyiu to proove he is in hong kong or didn't get the $ in his account or a friends. Showing the passport pic doesnt help much, he could have a friend or relative that went there. The whole HK story being brought up was by his friend also so it is kind of erroneous. The picture seems to be a real one though unedited at least :). Showing a picture of bank acct ? I have more than 1 bank acct, as many might also have, so he could easily show a different acct, therefore it prooves nothing.

The most peculiar thing is that the OP received a CPU. (if you have a tracking # you should put it into canada post and try to determine the post office it shipped from, though this also won't proove anything, itd be interesting to know).

With EMT it doesnt matter what email it is sent to it can be deposited into any account, so the OP should contact the bank asap to try and freeze/reverse the payment, and if possible at least get the account owners name. It still doesnt proove anything if its different, but at least you know where it went. A police report is fairly easy to file, and will help with getting more acct information at the bank. Do this asap, the longer you wait the harder it is, and the more you will be questioned instead, ie why did you wait so long (even though it was to gather more info).

The address that was on the package could be real or fake. The address itself exists, but they have apt #'s and if that was where it was being shipped from one would think that the # would also be in the address, but its not. Interesting tidbit about the address as well, in 2005 apt 1210 and 1404 were busted for growing pot.


There was more i was going to write but I have to go now,

bottom line: try to find out where the EMT went (what physical bank acct, not what email it was sent to), and go from there. Post back with that information so we also know the name to look out for.

[van]

bottom line: try to find out where the EMT went (what physical bank acct, not what email it was sent to), and go from there.

That's easier said then done. Sending an EMT is like sending cash, once its sent, it's gone and it's non-reversable. You won't be able to trace where the EMT went, nor will the bank tell you. The point of EMT or CertaPay is to protect banking info on both ends, and the banks are obligated to keep that info confidential. If there is fraudulent activity, only the police will be able to get the bank to initiate a trace and find out the recipients banking info. The police will only get involved if there was a crime committed. In this case, it's more of a civil dispute, and the OP should take seller to small claims court to resolve it.

[JAC]

are you even reading the thread?.. the 'real' siuyiu posted his passport stamp on date of entry.. January 11, 2007.. he has been in HK ever since and before the OP was scammed.

I see a stamp. I don't see "siuyiu"'s name, address, or photo, or anything else to prove its his passport. Have an admin affirm the IP siuyiu made the post from is in HK, that'll be a start.

I suggest you to 'correctly' follow the thread and think before you post. As for C posting under a second account.. you are quite the conspiracy theorist.. :)

Perhaps you need to stop expecting everyone believes your nonsense.

[rdtx2002]

haha... very honest scammer indeed

i have a suspicion rdx is really siuyiu as well... why would a friend work so hard to fight off something that is not his own business

so i can't be a friend of siuyiu and back him up?.. if you suspect me as being siuyiu, prove it. siuyiu himself can back me personally on this.. I don't share my account and login/password with anyone.

Ask people on Raptorschat and RealGM.. i'm ALWAYS online 24/7 idling and participating in fantasy drafts and constantly on RealGM Chat with the locals... same here on RFD.. tell me.. if I were in HK.. you'd think I have something better to do that talk to you guys and check online for fantasy players................

you want my IP?.. here.. track it.
IP Address: 206.248.181.104
Default Gateway: 65.39.134.4

straight from my router.. i'm using Teksavvy.

i find it HUMOROUS that you would accuse me of being siuyiu on another account.. :lol:

Edit: I even PM'ed Ryan and Derek to track my own IP for you guys............. can't believe what i'm reading from you two. and to malaco0219 and aKiu.. if that is not enough.. how about we meet at nighttime?.. I'm free to travel anywhere in the GTA and i'll even log into the this account for you at the library.. siuyiu isn't ;) Can't you two see how silly your accusations are?

[rdtx2002]

i mentinoed that a couple posts back that siuyiu might be using rdx's account
whether he scammed or not, he shoudl step forward and explain himself.

him not explaining himself makes him look even worse, and rdx defending him is very suspicious as well.

god.. i'm sorry.. but how stupid can ppl get.. all he has to do is step forward and prove himself and he's free to go.

I wonder how is this suspicious... been friends with siuyiu since highschool.. that is like 14 years man.. why can't I defend him the I way I did?? I'm actually trying to 'push' this thread aside for siuyiu.. I talk to siuyiu on MSN whenever I get a chance and I asked him specifically what is going on with this transaction and relaying all the information to you guys.. yet you people think i'm siuyiu?

you guys are a barrel of laughs

[rdtx2002]

I see a stamp. I don't see "siuyiu"'s name, address, or photo, or anything else to prove its his passport. Have an admin affirm the IP siuyiu made the post from is in HK, that'll be a start.

if the OP would get off his butt and do it.. sure.. we can move this along :)

Perhaps you need to stop expecting everyone believes your nonsense.

I don't expect everyone to believe me.. but there is more than one way to look at this situation.

[rdtx2002]

The most peculiar thing is that the OP received a CPU. (if you have a tracking # you should put it into canada post and try to determine the post office it shipped from, though this also won't proove anything, itd be interesting to know).

Agreed DJXP.. I can't explain that either.. and I have mentioned to the OP to post the Postal Code of the receiving Post Office(the stamp on the top right hand corner of the envelope).. but no answer from him.. I have ask him to trace siuyiu's posts by IP by telling him to message the moderators.. no action from him

suspicious no?

The address that was on the package could be real or fake. The address itself exists, but they have apt #'s and if that was where it was being shipped from one would think that the # would also be in the address, but its not. Interesting tidbit about the address as well, in 2005 apt 1210 and 1404 were busted for growing pot.

I agree that the return address could be fake.

[hey_dude1643]

honestly man.. you know the police ain't going to do anything about $60 dollars, they probably will just close the case with out even looking over it. They can careless about you and your $60 dollars, thats just my two cents

[Supershyguy]

haha... very honest scammer indeed

i have a suspicion rdx is really siuyiu as well... why would a friend work so hard to fight off something that is not his own business

im sorry but i dont care how good friends u are wit someone, friends just dont post for friends like that

ive seen my fair share of scams as well to kno that ppl are known to log onto their friends account and defend themself through that friend...

pcgeezer ur not gonna win ur $60 bak. but what u can do is go trace that bank account that is connected to siuyiu's account so we can all find out the final verdict...

i mean what are u waitin for... take some real action PLEASE... suspense is killin me

this is the part where we must see... because if the glove does not fit, you must acquit


dont know about you, but if there is a thread about me scamming someone for $60, probably will have more then 5 people backing me up on one thread.

but then again I would probably ended this with in one page. and proof that i didnt do it. or if I have received proof that it was indeed from my account, I would do my best to help OP to find out wtf is going on.

but if he is having fun in HK, i can also understand why he wouldnt care lol

[rdtx2002]

but if he is having fun in HK, i can also understand why he wouldnt care lol

yeah.. he is probalby in Tsim Sha Tsui or Causeway Bay looking at the cuties ;)

[sic12nv]

agreed.. but the fact he is in HK just proves his alibi that pcgeezer can't attack ;)

...but someone else (i.e. friend) could have sent it for him and put a fake name and address regardless if he is in HK or not. I've dealt with former friends that were good until they needed $ for what ever reason and could turn around steal $20 from my newphew's bday $ and deny it when I caught him trying to use it to buy mcDonalds.(I wrote on the bill To: Christian From: G ) :mad:

[hewhomusntbenamed]

carabob isn't really close to p mall... close to p mall is like across the street not a 15 min drive away...

in the pm's, siuyiu is typing in good english where as when siuyiu is posting now, it's like all fob talk...

i dunno, good luck to all. i just finished reading 10 pages of poo and feel the sudden urge to relieve myself...

[Mu'awiyah]

I don't think you poked any holes in anything.

So 'Howard' is in HK - this doe snot let him off scott-free. He could easily have been co-ordinating with someone else here to scam a buyer here and then use the 'I was out of the country' excuse.

Why someone would do this for $60 isn't something I or OP can or need to answer. All these multiple accounts 'hacked' into and who wouldn't be here fighting to clear their name instead of fobbing out idiotic repeated comments and then vanishing? All evidence points to his involvement.

The fact that this **siuyu** aka the Real Howard TM has disappeared from these boards is the most suspicious and damning thing here.

Whatever comes to him now he's asked for.

[rdtx2002]

I don't think you poked any holes in anything.

So 'Howard' is in HK - this doe snot let him off scott-free. He could easily have been co-ordinating with someone else here to scam a buyer here and then use the 'I was out of the country' excuse.

Why someone would do this for $60 isn't something I or OP can or need to answer. All these multiple accounts 'hacked' into and who wouldn't be here fighting to clear their name instead of fobbing out idiotic repeated comments and then vanishing? All evidence points to his involvement.

The fact that this **siuyu** aka the Real Howard TM has disappeared from these boards is the most suspicious and damning thing here.

Whatever comes to him now he's asked for.

if there is some co-ordination.. then why hasn't the OP done anything?.. he doesn't trace the EMT.. he doesn't check IP logs.. right now it's just a big argument over nothing.

the guy has what?.. 205 posts since 2002.. do you think he is one that 'actually' frequents RFD?.. he ain't like me with almost 4000 posts since 2003. and the guy is in Hong Kong man.... I can think of a million other things to do on a vacation than to worry about RFD 'for the time being'

Nothing will come to him if he has done nothing wrong. Karma doesn't work 'just because'

[rdtx2002]

...but someone else (i.e. friend) could have sent it for him and put a fake name and address regardless if he is in HK or not. I've dealt with former friends that were good until they needed $ for what ever reason and could turn around steal $20 from my newphew's bday $ and deny it when I caught him trying to use it to buy mcDonalds.(I wrote on the bill To: Christian From: G ) :mad:

that is why they are your former friends :)

[Mu'awiyah]

if there is some co-ordination.. then why hasn't the OP done anything?.. he doesn't trace the EMT.. he doesn't check IP logs.. right now it's just a big argument over nothing.

the guy has what?.. 205 posts since 2002.. do you think he is one that 'actually' frequents RFD?.. he ain't like me with almost 4000 posts since 2003. and the guy is in Hong Kong man.... I can think of a million other things to do on a vacation than to worry about RFD 'for the time being'

Nothing will come to him if he has done nothing wrong. Karma doesn't work 'just because'

And you are so determined to fight on his behalf to the extent that you reply to posts here morning, afternoon and evening why? Perhaps you are involved. The English in the PMs and FOBlish in 'Howard's' rebuttals certainly don't match.

The OP was scammed - this is not an argument over 'nothing'. What will IP logs prove - that the scammer was in the GTA and little Howard in HK? Why should that count for anything. Not to mention any fool can IP proxy.

If he had time to come here and post weak excuses while he was in HK he surely does now. Hong Kong is hardly so enticing that he he has time for nothing else but watching pretty girls - especially when you yourself say he is not there for a short vacation he would want to get as much done in as possible, but on an extended trip for a few months.

The onus is on 'Howard' to clear his name or admit to fraud - and somehow he really doesn't seem inclined to the former.

[rdtx2002]

And you are so determined to fight on his behalf to the extent that you reply to posts here morning, afternoon and evening why? Perhaps you are involved. The English in the PMs and FOBlish in 'Howard's' rebuttals certainly don't match.


if you are insistant that i'm involved, I have nothing better to say to you.

So what If I decide to help a friend clear his name?.. like Supershyguy said.. if he was a scammer, 5+ people would come and defend him.. are you then going to accuse those 5+ as being involved also?

[wind88]

damn, just 45 min of my time reading this most-make-a-movie-out-of-it story.
I'm on this thread 24/7 now ~~ i want to hear the rest!! :twisted:

[7jaii]

Dude it's so simple

-Siuyiu opens sales threads
-Siuyiu asks friend to sell his stuff while in Hong Kong
-Siuyiu friends screw up and now appealing for sympathy

Dude, if you lend your car and your friend runs a Red Light then YOU receive a fine and fight your own battles in court. Why would a hacker ship a CPU and bump a laptop thread? Do you believe "This Hacker" will ship a broken "yet identical" laptop that Siuyiu posted? Siuyiu should step up and said "Something's wrong but I am responsible for cleaning up this mess"

You want us to believe "This Hacker" used Siuyiu's RFD Heatware Email EMT account to scam $60 but Siuyiu has no responsibilty to secure his account? RFD tells member to secure our accounts and post accurate information in BST. And rdtx2002 is giving bad advice because if Siuyiu creates another account then he will be Permanently Banned for opening multiple accounts. Jokes man, $60 isn't worth a permenant ban

[rdtx2002]

damn, just 45 min of my time reading this most-make-a-movie-out-of-it story.
I'm on this thread 24/7 now ~~ i want to hear the rest!! :twisted:

we need a Hollywood license for this movie

[rdtx2002]

Dude it's so simple

-Siuyiu opens sales threads
-Siuyiu asks friend to sell his stuff while in Hong Kong
-Siuyiu friends screw up and now appealing for sympathy

Dude, if you lend your car and your friend runs a Red Light then YOU receive a fine and fight your own battles in court. Why would a hacker ship a CPU and bump a laptop thread? Do you believe "This Hacker" will ship a broken "yet identical" laptop that Siuyiu posted? Siuyiu should step up and said "Something's wrong but I am responsible for cleaning up this mess"

You want us to believe "This Hacker" used Siuyiu's RFD Heatware Email EMT account to scam $60 but Siuyiu has no responsibilty to secure his account? RFD tells member to secure our accounts and post accurate information in BST. And rdtx2002 is giving bad advice because if Siuyiu creates another account then he will be Permanently Banned for opening multiple accounts. Jokes man, $60 isn't worth a permenant ban

well.. if siuyiu comes out and says he commited the 'error' then yeah.. I think there wouldn't be a thread about this.. but he is claiming that he isn't the guy that sent the stuff.

Anyhow, imo, the onus is on the OP.. he has all the tracking tools and sources he needs to find out where his money is.

After thinking about it.. yeah. i agree that opening a new account is not the best interest.. the best thing for him to do is just change his password.. as for building up his reputation again... we shall see.

[hp]

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Serieouly, your friend is obviously not interested in clearing up his name, you posting here really doesn't help. It just make him look even worse. There comes a time when you have let Siuyiu fight his own battle.

Just my $0.02

[ji2o0k]

After thinking about it.. yeah. i agree that opening a new account is not the best interest.. the best thing for him to do is just change his password.. as for building up his reputation again... we shall see.
please tell me he did that already and informed the mods.....I mean if your account was hacked, you would do a few follow up things too.

Not just say, oh I was hacked, oh well..........and leave everthing as is.

[dinesh_zee]

we need a Hollywood license for this movie

damn.. 1 hr gone reading this thread and the movie hasn't concluded yet?
how long is the movie?

[van]

So what If I decide to help a friend clear his name?

Nothing wrong with that. But if he's not really putting any effort into clearing up his own name, why should you?

[rdtx2002]

damn.. 1 hr gone reading this thread and the movie hasn't concluded yet?
how long is the movie?

I gotta get on the phones with Sony Pictures :)

[Mu'awiyah]

I gotta get on the phones with Sony Pictures :)

Get a life. Go outside. And let Howard defend himself.

Or maybe that is exactly what is happening here, Howard being you.

Pathetic that a 'friend' of a scammer obsessively monitors this thread more than the person who actually lost money and was scammed.

[rdtx2002]

Get a life. Go outside. And let Howard defend himself.

Or maybe that is exactly what is happening here, Howard being you.

Pathetic that a 'friend' of a scammer obsessively monitors this thread more than the person who actually lost money and was scammed.

why don't you stfu. if you have nothing to contribute to the thread other than bashing other users.. don't say anything at all. go play along with your other newbie friends. ;)

it's even more pathetic that you are complaining about me and you are a noob 2. :)

[rdtx2002]

Nothing wrong with that. But if he's not really putting any effort into clearing up his own name, why should you?

if you have seen recently.. i have not really put much effort anymore.. i'm just putting effort to those 2 bozos that think i'm siuyiu in disguise :)

[Mu'awiyah]

why don't you stfu. if you have nothing to contribute to the thread other than bashing other users.. don't say anything at all. go play along with your other newbie friends. ;)

it's even more pathetic that you are complaining about me and you are a noob 2. :)


'Noobs' are second-class citizens , have no right to bash scammers, their defenders and associates, and who should keep their mouths shut. That's cute.

[rdtx2002]

if you can't take a joke.. the door is ------------------------> that way

don't let it hit you on the way out :)

[Supershyguy]

Dude it's so simple

-Siuyiu opens sales threads
-Siuyiu asks friend to sell his stuff while in Hong Kong
-Siuyiu friends screw up and now appealing for sympathy

Dude, if you lend your car and your friend runs a Red Light then YOU receive a fine and fight your own battles in court. Why would a hacker ship a CPU and bump a laptop thread? Do you believe "This Hacker" will ship a broken "yet identical" laptop that Siuyiu posted? Siuyiu should step up and said "Something's wrong but I am responsible for cleaning up this mess"

You want us to believe "This Hacker" used Siuyiu's RFD Heatware Email EMT account to scam $60 but Siuyiu has no responsibilty to secure his account? RFD tells member to secure our accounts and post accurate information in BST. And rdtx2002 is giving bad advice because if Siuyiu creates another account then he will be Permanently Banned for opening multiple accounts. Jokes man, $60 isn't worth a permenant ban

running a red is a bad example. lol your friend will actually have to pay it if a cop pulled him over. not the owner of the car. if its a red light cam, just tell your friend to pay it if you knew he took your car out that day.

[malaco0219]

And you are so determined to fight on his behalf to the extent that you reply to posts here morning, afternoon and evening why? Perhaps you are involved. The English in the PMs and FOBlish in 'Howard's' rebuttals certainly don't match.

The OP was scammed - this is not an argument over 'nothing'. What will IP logs prove - that the scammer was in the GTA and little Howard in HK? Why should that count for anything. Not to mention any fool can IP proxy.

If he had time to come here and post weak excuses while he was in HK he surely does now. Hong Kong is hardly so enticing that he he has time for nothing else but watching pretty girls - especially when you yourself say he is not there for a short vacation he would want to get as much done in as possible, but on an extended trip for a few months.

The onus is on 'Howard' to clear his name or admit to fraud - and somehow he really doesn't seem inclined to the former.

lol well said.

dont bother with people like him. haha.. i cant believe how he has no life but sit here and defend against a friend that is doing nothing to prove his innocence. like shyguy mentinoed previously, he should have ended it with one page proving his innocence. lol

rdtx must be an entertainer or something lol

[malaco0219]

I see a stamp. I don't see "siuyiu"'s name, address, or photo, or anything else to prove its his passport. Have an admin affirm the IP siuyiu made the post from is in HK, that'll be a start.



Perhaps you need to stop expecting everyone believes your nonsense.

yes, i think you brought up a really good point. he could have just gotten anyone's passport.

i think RDTX doesnt get the fact that siuyiu not posting his statement is making it more suspicious. if he knows he didnt do it, whats he afraid of? lol. rdtx just makes me laugh so hard its not funny..

If he can prove that then pcgeezer can just forget about it and everyone would be cool. how hard is that to understand? so many members already said thats all he needs to prove.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[champ91]

okay maybe everyone who is not invovled with this transaction to just not post. The original two users who are involved arn't even posting as much as the people not involved.

There's no point taking sides or helping one over the other, we arn't even involved. Just let them settle it themselves.

[rdtx2002]

yes, i think you brought up a really good point. he could have just gotten anyone's passport.

i think RDTX doesnt get the fact that siuyiu not posting his statement is making it more suspicious. if he knows he didnt do it, whats he afraid of? lol. rdtx just makes me laugh so hard its not funny..

If he can prove that then pcgeezer can just forget about it and everyone would be cool. how hard is that to understand? so many members already said thats all he needs to prove.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

fact is.. they are BOTH not posting anymore.

it's just a bunch of old ladies (ourselves) arguing over nothing.

wake up man.

[Aznsilvrboy]

After reading roughly the first 6-7 pages. There is no hard evidence that the 'real' suiyiu is the culprit. It seems like you guys dont know how EMT works. From Wikipedia:
------------------------------------------
An Email Money Transfer resembles in many aspects an e-check. The money is not actually transferred by e-mail. Only the instructions to retrieve the funds are.

* The sender opens an online banking session and chooses the recipient, the amount to send, as well as a security question and answer. The funds are debited instantly, usually for a surcharge.
* An e-mail is then sent to the recipient, with instructions on how to retrieve the funds and answer the question, via a secure website.
o If the recipient is subscribed to online banking at one of the participating institutions, the funds are deposited instantly at no extra charge.
o If the recipient's deposit account is not at one of the participating institutions or not subscribed to online banking at all, the funds are deposited within three to five business days, and a surcharge (currently $2.50) is deducted from the amount received.
-------------------------------------

With that being said. It is possible that the hacker hacked the 'real' siuyiu's RFD account/hotmail account since they use the same password. Then the hacker tied the 'real' siuyiu's email to his own (hacker's) bank account. Then completed the deal with PCGeezer, confirmed the payment/answered the secret question from the 'real' siuyiu's email address and got the $60 in his (the hacker's account). As to why a CPU was actually sent to PCGeezer, I have no idea.

P.S: I don't know anyone here in case you're wondering.

[Asad_A203]

Ehmm, hacking a PC is not likely at all. This is just ********. Why would this "hacker" send anything or even send **** to that EMT account??? It's not like it is going to his account, it still going to the guy OP is feuding with. Why not just send all the money to his own EMT account??? IF there is really a hacker hackin this guys PC (highly unlikely), i HIGHLY DOUBT, he would try to fraud the guy by accessing a forums called "REDFLAGDEALS.com Canada's Bargain Hunting Community"(doesnt really spell out big money), he would most likely steal his bank info and personal info and take out credit cards with his name and buy some GC. Thus, this hacker story is bull. Not to mention how this guy got hacked. Most viruses are mass spread as trojan horses, where keyloggers are placed to record personal info, usually in mass numbers. Not ones that visit forums, place items for sales, send broken item. If it was a friend who did 'hack' his PC, this method of messing him up doesn't make sense. Balance of probabilities:
1. Guy sent a broken wrong item in trying to scam the OP
OR
1. Guy's computer gets hacked, getting his RFD (so valuable:cheesygri ), hotmail account password
2. "Hacker" places broken item on RFD site
3. Responds and PM's to OP
4. Ships a broken but similar item to OP
5. Somehow collects money from the person who got hacked

I dunno about you guys, but i find the guys story to be bull.

[curtis]

I agree with your assessment, but again, it is not conclusive.

I believe it goes innocent until proven guilty.

In this particular case, if further investigation was done, his guilt or lack of participation can be clearly proven.

Why not just goto the cops and do it instead of whining like a little girl on a forum?


Ehmm, hacking a PC is not likely at all. This is just ********. Why would this "hacker" send anything or even send **** to that EMT account??? It's not like it is going to his account, it still going to the guy OP is feuding with. Why not just send all the money to his own EMT account??? IF there is really a hacker hackin this guys PC (highly unlikely), i HIGHLY DOUBT, he would try to fraud the guy by accessing a forums called "REDFLAGDEALS.com Canada's Bargain Hunting Community"(doesnt really spell out big money), he would most likely steal his bank info and personal info and take out credit cards with his name and buy some GC. Thus, this hacker story is bull. Not to mention how this guy got hacked. Most viruses are mass spread as trojan horses, where keyloggers are placed to record personal info, usually in mass numbers. Not ones that visit forums, place items for sales, send broken item. If it was a friend who did 'hack' his PC, this method of messing him up doesn't make sense. Balance of probabilities:
1. Guy sent a broken wrong item in trying to scam the OP
OR
1. Guy's computer gets hacked, getting his RFD (so valuable:cheesygri ), hotmail account password
2. "Hacker" places broken item on RFD site
3. Responds and PM's to OP
4. Ships a broken but similar item to OP
5. Somehow collects money from the person who got hacked

I dunno about you guys, but i find the guys story to be bull.

[Setokun]

wow
this is so entertaining
i couldn't resist but reply to this post.
:cheesygri
I think i can make up a better story than that~
anyway
I know u said there's the time zone difference but if u say he can post msgs to sell stuff all around the world..then why isn't he posting here and explain himself?

[Aznsilvrboy]

Ehmm, hacking a PC is not likely at all. This is just ********. Why would this "hacker" send anything or even send **** to that EMT account??? It's not like it is going to his account, it still going to the guy OP is feuding with. Why not just send all the money to his own EMT account??? IF there is really a hacker hackin this guys PC (highly unlikely), i HIGHLY DOUBT, he would try to fraud the guy by accessing a forums called "REDFLAGDEALS.com Canada's Bargain Hunting Community"(doesnt really spell out big money), he would most likely steal his bank info and personal info and take out credit cards with his name and buy some GC. Thus, this hacker story is bull. Not to mention how this guy got hacked. Most viruses are mass spread as trojan horses, where keyloggers are placed to record personal info, usually in mass numbers. Not ones that visit forums, place items for sales, send broken item. If it was a friend who did 'hack' his PC, this method of messing him up doesn't make sense. Balance of probabilities:
1. Guy sent a broken wrong item in trying to scam the OP
OR
1. Guy's computer gets hacked, getting his RFD (so valuable:cheesygri ), hotmail account password
2. "Hacker" places broken item on RFD site
3. Responds and PM's to OP
4. Ships a broken but similar item to OP
5. Somehow collects money from the person who got hacked

I dunno about you guys, but i find the guys story to be bull.

After obtaining siuyiu's hotmail account details, he could connect his own bank account to it. When OP sends the instructions to siuyiu's email, the hacker (if there is) collects the $60 into his bank account (not siuyiu's).

[JAC]

After obtaining siuyiu's hotmail account details, he could connect his own bank account to it. When OP sends the instructions to siuyiu's email, the hacker (if there is) collects the $60 into his bank account (not siuyiu's).

But why would he ship a CPU?:lol:

[hp]

But why would he ship a CPU?:lol:

And all that effort, hacking into someone's account and the best he can do is $60?

I too believe in Innocent until proven guilty, but there is no harm in protecting your self from dealing with Siuyiu until this mess is cleared up.

[Aznsilvrboy]

But why would he ship a CPU?:lol:

I already said I can't explain that with logic/reasoning other than he's stupid. His motives are uncertain but his actions are plausible.

[jet123]

this should go to Judge Judy!

[diabolical7]

i say we all pay this siuyiu a visit when he comes back from his so called trip to china... and then have a good group analysis as to what he saids or stipulates is true... because honestly this doesn't make sense for any hacker to go through leaps and bounds just to scam some guy out of less than a hundred bucks... only conclusion is if its a prank that siuyiu's friend or nemesis is pulling on him... other than that i call rotten on all that he has said to try and defend himself...

[FlintBlade]

wow, 185 posts... woo

[BluEL]

I read 13 pages of posts and there is no ending?!?!

...cliffhanger....stay tuned. :D

[malaco0219]

i say we all pay this siuyiu a visit when he comes back from his so called trip to china... and then have a good group analysis as to what he saids or stipulates is true... because honestly this doesn't make sense for any hacker to go through leaps and bounds just to scam some guy out of less than a hundred bucks... only conclusion is if its a prank that siuyiu's friend or nemesis is pulling on him... other than that i call rotten on all that he has said to try and defend himself...

good point
but as u probably read by now.. siuyiu hasnt done anything to prove his innocence except post a picture of a passport stamped, which could be anyones, and his "friend" RDTX defending him.

nothing can be done about this case unless siuyiu comes in with hard proof to prove his innocence.

[diabolical7]

good point
but as u probably read by now.. siuyiu hasnt done anything to prove his innocence except post a picture of a passport stamped, which could be anyones, and his "friend" RDTX defending him.

nothing can be done about this case unless siuyiu comes in with hard proof to prove his innocence.

true and who is this rdtx character his mineon or something? like enuff is enuff rdtx stfu let ur buddy speak for himself unless u are siuyiu... this is just a weird messed up thread that is not concluding and it doesn't make sense for the accused, i worked at passport canada and the airport, that could have been anyonse passport let alone some fake stamp, so to just post a pic of a passport stamped absolutely means jack all

[rdtx2002]

true and who is this rdtx character his mineon or something? like enuff is enuff rdtx stfu let ur buddy speak for himself unless u are siuyiu... this is just a weird messed up thread that is not concluding and it doesn't make sense for the accused, i worked at passport canada and the airport, that could have been anyonse passport let alone some fake stamp, so to just post a pic of a passport stamped absolutely means jack all

so are you saying he should show his passport to everyone here in the public? even if he whites out all the important information of his passport, you all can just assume he is using a different passport.. so why are you arguing over this fact? Are you implying that he should scan his entire passport, don't white out the information and post it on a public forum?.. if you are, then i seriously need to question your job capabilities.. if not, then I apologize for sounding 'harsh'

I can speak for him if I want to... like Supershyguy mentioned in his other post; if some guy was to accuse him of being a scammer, there would be at least 5 guys there to defend him... now are those 5 guys idiots for helping him also?

I can't believe some of the idiotic comments I have read here. You help a good friend of yours, you are immediately labeled.

Thanks.. you guys sure make RFD a 'great' place.

and btw.. you stfu.. I have already let siuyiu say his peace. If he doesn't want to say anymore that is up to him.

and to malaco0219 .... you are an idiot for accusing me of being siuyiu with no hard factual evidence.

[jet123]

lol, is funny that he said "u stfu", well, anyway, i don't see any wrong to help out a friend , even to die for if he is worth it, and if i'm siuyiu and i didn't do jack, i won't give a damn about this..lol

so are you saying he should show his passport to everyone here in the public? even if he whites out all the important information of his passport, you all can just assume he is using a different passport.. so why are you arguing over this fact? Are you implying that he should scan his entire passport, don't white out the information and post it on a public forum?.. if you are, then i seriously need to question your job capabilities.. if not, then I apologize for sounding 'harsh'

I can speak for him if I want to... like Supershyguy mentioned in his other post; if some guy was to accuse him of being a scammer, there would be at least 5 guys there to defend him... now are those 5 guys idiots for helping him also?

I can't believe some of the idiotic comments I have read here. You help a good friend of yours, you are immediately labeled.

Thanks.. you guys sure make RFD a 'great' place.

and btw.. you stfu.. I have already let siuyiu say his peace. If he doesn't want to say anymore that is up to him.

and to malaco0219 .... you are an idiot for accusing me of being siuyiu with no hard factual evidence.

[rdtx2002]

:arrowu:

agreed.. but anyhow.. for those that think there will be an ending.. i seriously doubt it.. the OP and siuyiu have not touched the thread for a long long time.. and no action has been taken on both sides.

[Supershyguy]

so are you saying he should show his passport to everyone here in the public? even if he whites out all the important information of his passport, you all can just assume he is using a different passport.. so why are you arguing over this fact? Are you implying that he should scan his entire passport, don't white out the information and post it on a public forum?.. if you are, then i seriously need to question your job capabilities.. if not, then I apologize for sounding 'harsh'

I can speak for him if I want to... like Supershyguy mentioned in his other post; if some guy was to accuse him of being a scammer, there would be at least 5 guys there to defend him... now are those 5 guys idiots for helping him also?

I can't believe some of the idiotic comments I have read here. You help a good friend of yours, you are immediately labeled.

Thanks.. you guys sure make RFD a 'great' place.

and btw.. you stfu.. I have already let siuyiu say his peace. If he doesn't want to say anymore that is up to him.

and to malaco0219 .... you are an idiot for accusing me of being siuyiu with no hard factual evidence.


if you are going to quote me, quote me on what I wrote after too

I also said it would have taken me 24 hours to clear my name if I didnt do it.

[malaco0219]

true and who is this rdtx character his mineon or something? like enuff is enuff rdtx stfu let ur buddy speak for himself unless u are siuyiu... this is just a weird messed up thread that is not concluding and it doesn't make sense for the accused, i worked at passport canada and the airport, that could have been anyonse passport let alone some fake stamp, so to just post a pic of a passport stamped absolutely means jack all

well said.

so are you saying he should show his passport to everyone here in the public? even if he whites out all the important information of his passport, you all can just assume he is using a different passport.. so why are you arguing over this fact? Are you implying that he should scan his entire passport, don't white out the information and post it on a public forum?.. if you are, then i seriously need to question your job capabilities.. if not, then I apologize for sounding 'harsh'

I can speak for him if I want to... like Supershyguy mentioned in his other post; if some guy was to accuse him of being a scammer, there would be at least 5 guys there to defend him... now are those 5 guys idiots for helping him also?

I can't believe some of the idiotic comments I have read here. You help a good friend of yours, you are immediately labeled.

Thanks.. you guys sure make RFD a 'great' place.

and btw.. you stfu.. I have already let siuyiu say his peace. If he doesn't want to say anymore that is up to him.

and to malaco0219 .... you are an idiot for accusing me of being siuyiu with no hard factual evidence.

lol. maybe you should think about bringing hard evidence to show your part? lol, i dont see any clear evidence what so ever from you or siuyiu to prove his evidence, and the more you say and quote people wrong, the more of an idiot you're making your self look like.

i am just analyzing facts, and the fact neither you nor siuyiu have yet to bring any solid evidence to prove himself worthy, and all you do is complain people are nailing at you.

lol gimme a break buddie. how old are you? it may be harsh, but you dont have any solid proof.

[malaco0219]

i mentinoed that a couple posts back that siuyiu might be using rdx's account
whether he scammed or not, he shoudl step forward and explain himself.

him not explaining himself makes him look even worse, and rdx defending him is very suspicious as well.

god.. i'm sorry.. but how stupid can ppl get.. all he has to do is step forward and prove himself and he's free to go.

rdtx, notice the word "might".

when i posted if you're siuyiu, i meant as sarcasm. even if you dont take the sarcasm into account on the post i made on page 8, i didnt accuse you.

maybe learn how to read?

:D

[sweetladdy]

hmm.

[rdtx2002]

malaco0219, I'm sure your Sharingan helps you see 'everything' :rolleyes:

[malaco0219]

malaco0219, I'm sure your Sharingan helps you see 'everything' :rolleyes:

perhaps you should just be quiet? clearly a dozen ppl here proved you wrong already.

[curtis]

So... what do the police think? I thought everyone was convinced.

No? I can't believe you guys are still whining about this.

[TheDemon666]

first of all:

1) how did siuyiu know that richard kong was posting on RFD to scam?
2) how did siuyiu know what Richard Kong had "Hijacked" his accnt info?
3) if he knew, why didn't he right away msg pcgeezer and let him know?
4) he didn't show much concern on his first post in regards to the fact that someone had stolen his info and is scamming!
5) Being that he is such a continuous dealer on RFD, by now he should know how to protect his personal info!
6) How does he know that Richard was the one stealing his info? what tipped you off? and..how can you be positive that it was him?why didn't he inform the mods right away as to the situation?

[rdtx2002]

first of all:

1) how did siuyiu know that richard kong was posting on RFD to scam?
2) how did siuyiu know what Richard Kong had "Hijacked" his accnt info?
3) if he knew, why didn't he right away msg pcgeezer and let him know?
4) he didn't show much concern on his first post in regards to the fact that someone had stolen his info and is scamming!
5) Being that he is such a continuous dealer on RFD, by now he should know how to protect his personal info!
6) How does he know that Richard was the one stealing his info? what tipped you off? and..how can you be positive that it was him?why didn't he inform the mods right away as to the situation?

i thought this thread would die... but i'll give you a coles notes version

1. he claims no
2. he claims no
3. pcgeezer posted pics of his car that he took from another forum, that forced action on siuyiu's part.
4. b/c of #3, he was upset that his pics of his car was posted. (since removed)
5. ain't arguing that point.
6. pcgeezer posted that it was a Richard Kong that mailed him the CPU (which is still strange to me). He even has a picture of the envelope with Richard Kong's information on it. As to why he didn't inform mods.. I have no idea.. but he was in Hong Kong during the 'scam' (and still is in HK to this present day)

Anyways.. this thread needs to die.. it's obvious the OP and siuyiu are not doing 'anything' to rectify the problem.

[malaco0219]

i thought this thread would die... but i'll give you a coles notes version

1. he claims no
2. he claims no
3. pcgeezer posted pics of his car that he took from another forum, that forced action on siuyiu's part.
4. b/c of #3, he was upset that his pics of his car was posted. (since removed)
5. ain't arguing that point.
6. pcgeezer posted that it was a Richard Kong that mailed him the CPU (which is still strange to me). He even has a picture of the envelope with Richard Kong's information on it. As to why he didn't inform mods.. I have no idea.. but he was in Hong Kong during the 'scam' (and still is in HK to this present day)

Anyways.. this thread needs to die.. it's obvious the OP and siuyiu are not doing 'anything' to rectify the problem.

lol

maybe its a sign you should let him be and not defend him anymore? and mods should take action?

[TheDemon666]

lol

maybe its a sign you should let him be and not defend him anymore? and mods should take action?

I don't know the guy personally, just that people need to be more self conscious in protecting personal info on the web. either way, just my opinion. oh and all of my questions where directed to siuyiu, so sorry for any confusion.

[actgear]

wow i spent an hour reading this..

[rdtx2002]

lol

maybe its a sign you should let him be and not defend him anymore? and mods should take action?

i have let him be, just checked the last time i even touched the thread.. you could have easily not replied to my post to 'continue' the thread.. but you seem to 'want' to do this for some reason...

btw.. no one has proved anything... as it stands.. it's just a stalemate between whomever is involved.. and as for me and you.. we are just like old people at an old folks home arguing..

if you can't see this.. you are more blind that I thought.

nothing will happen out of this. the OP has done NOTHING like he said he will do, and siuyiu is in Hong Kong as we speak, and whoever this Richard Kong guy is (if he exists) is probably spending the 60 dollars.

[malaco0219]

i have let him be, just checked the last time i even touched the thread.. you could have easily not replied to my post to 'continue' the thread.. but you seem to 'want' to do this for some reason...

btw.. no one has proved anything... as it stands.. it's just a stalemate between whomever is involved.. and as for me and you.. we are just like old people at an old folks home arguing..

if you can't see this.. you are more blind that I thought.

nothing will happen out of this. the OP has done NOTHING like he said he will do, and siuyiu is in Hong Kong as we speak, and whoever this Richard Kong guy is (if he exists) is probably spending the 60 dollars.

i continued because i like to know the reason why you're defending him so much when he's just being a coward and running away from solving the problem?

I understand you might be his good friend, but with him not proving his own innocence, i honestly think you should stop defending him.

anyhow, i think mods should take action, siuyiu had enough time to prove his innocence. I'm sure the OP doesnt expect his money returned, and i think its only fair that Siuyiu is banned.

Thats my opinion, since he couldnt prove he wasnt the scammer. and i think his story is too unbelieveable.

[rdtx2002]

i continued because i like to know the reason why you're defending him so much when he's just being a coward and running away from solving the problem?

Like I said, he is a good friend and it's not his 'personality' to do something like this. Maybe if you known him for 10+ years, you would understand why I did what I did. As for being a coward, you can say that. In his mind, it's not 'his problem' and he doesn't care; just wants the OP to go after Richard Kong (since he has all the info necessary)

I understand you might be his good friend, but with him not proving his own innocence, i honestly think you should stop defending him.

that is why i'm only browsing the thread most of the time. I know nothing will happen. It's just going to be two/three people involved in the transaction that don't care enough to do anything while there are hundreds on onlookers trying to find out what is happening. We want some closure, but it won't happen.

[malaco0219]

Like I said, he is a good friend and it's not his 'personality' to do something like this. Maybe if you known him for 10+ years, you would understand why I did what I did. As for being a coward, you can say that. In his mind, it's not 'his problem' and he doesn't care; just wants the OP to go after Richard Kong (since he has all the info necessary)



that is why i'm only browsing the thread most of the time. I know nothing will happen. It's just going to be two/three people involved in the transaction that don't care enough to do anything while there are hundreds on onlookers trying to find out what is happening. We want some closure, but it won't happen.

this thread has gone long enough. I dont think there is a point in continuing either. But my final comment is that, Siuyiu's account getting hacked is a pretty crappy excuse, and it really does make him look stupid, no offense.

I have more to say, but i think its pretty self explanatory.

[syndicate]

i didn't even know about this thread until tonight and just quickly scanned through each page and I can't believe how people just keep repeating themselves over and over.

Seeing how nothing has been done other than "internet searches" and imaginary "police reports", this thread should've been CLOSED a long time ago. There is no solid proof to prove anything. Just fingers being pointed and wild accusations.

[Psubs]

i didn't even know about this thread until tonight and just quickly scanned through each page and I can't believe how people just keep repeating themselves over and over.

Seeing how nothing has been done other than "internet searches" and imaginary "police reports", this thread should've been CLOSED a long time ago. There is no solid proof to prove anything. Just fingers being pointed and wild accusations.

That's what's made it fun. This is the RFD version of Judge Judy. :lol:

[phomp]

If siuyiu was so nice, he wouldnt be calling the OP names like Idiot and would be a little more polite and try and solve the problem. BTW siuyiu called the OP in his first response to him.

I guess now a excuse for scamming is just claiming that someone is selling and accepting payments on my account with out me knowing?

BTW, if you got your e-mail pass and rfd account pass found out, not very smart.

This obviously is not going anywhere, but someone should take some action as this will start a lot more of these situations on this site.

[malaco0219]

If siuyiu was so nice, he wouldnt be calling the OP names like Idiot and would be a little more polite and try and solve the problem. BTW siuyiu called the OP in his first response to him.

I guess now a excuse for scamming is just claiming that someone is selling and accepting payments on my account with out me knowing?

BTW, if you got your e-mail pass and rfd account pass found out, not very smart.

This obviously is not going anywhere, but someone should take some action as this will start a lot more of these situations on this site.

+1
i agree. however, the mods didnt say anything about this issue, and i think the op is just so annoyed he just gave up on this issue, while siuyiu just walks off thinking its not his problem. lol

does judge judy ever end like this?

[kcjchan]

i preffer u contact police and the bank to find out where dose the money goes to, but not keep yelling here and hoping i'll give u money that the scammer got from u

and u can check where does that envolop mail out from

i also want to know who the hell use my account to scam just $60, but why not more

Working with your "exchange" friends so that once they leave the country you can pin it all on them eh? Classic!

Here's how this works. He lets his scammer friend "pretend" to hack his accounts. That person deals from the valid address, on a different computer and different IP. Once deal is over, money in pocket of alleged scammer, scammer leaves country as he was just an exchange student and would probably not return to Canada. Original Siuyiu returns to Canada, washing his hands from all that has taken place and casually posts he has nothing to do with it all. How can I tell?

For someone who has been identity thefted, he seems way too calm and doesn't even try further efforts in changing his hotmail password. Also, if he was really a victim in this, he would simply report to RCMP just to backup his claim.

OP if you are reporting this, try to get the real name of the person who received the EMT funds. Then go on from there to try to find out if the two know each other.

[syndicate]

That's what's made it fun. This is the RFD version of Judge Judy. :lol:

If the buyer really wanted his money back, he would've backed up his words instead of mentioning "Police" like a dozen times as a threat. And the only research he has done so far is visiting a bunch of sites and "assuming" the ID's are all the same person without any IP addresses logged. Not such a slamdunk case as he thinks it is...

Anyways... i hope everything gets resolved, and perhaps someone gets a beating :twisted:

[_Allan_]

the only thing that needs to be done, is PCGeek needs to contact TPD and get Richard Kong (or Howard ...) in for questioning. Also, regarding the EMT, I've asked CertaPay ( who runs the EMT ) how they can gurantee it goes to the right person, and they can only promise it goes to the right EMAIL.
Here is a quote from Certapay

How secure is it to send money by email?

Several measures have been built into the application to ensure the protection of both your accounts and your personal information, including:

Confidential, bank-issued user IDs and passwords

128-bit browser encryption

Security Question and Response to ensure only the intended recipient can deposit the transfer

Secure login processes

Expiry date on Interac Email Money Transfers

It's important to stress that only the email notification travels over the Internet. Money does not, but rather, it is transferred through existing payment networks that banks have used for years to settle cheques and bank machine deposits and withdrawals.
The funds in an Interac Email Money Transfer always reside safely at a bank and never travel by email. The email is only a notification about the transaction. Your bank and your recipient's bank transfers the funds the way they always have for years - through existing interbank settlement arrangements. That's why it's secure. That's why it's a real-time transaction. See their FAQ's (http://www.certapay.com/en/personalPayments/faq7.html). Technically speaking, it sounds as if they can't trace beyond the email, since it's run through the Banks Wire Transfer (much faster then WT of old).

Your only going to get info from your bank ... and not from the tellers / in branch you'll have to go above them,. and above the branch managers ... I'd go above the President even, and contact the following, usualy appointed by the Board of Directors or higher up then the President.... :

BMO - 1 800 371-2541 (BMO Ombudsman)
CIBC - 1-800-308-6859 (CIBC Ombudsman)
RBC - 1 800 769-2542 (RBC Ombudsman)
Scotia Bank - 1-877-700-0043 (Office of the President)
or try to call - 1-800-785-8772 (Scotia Ombudsman)
TD Canada Trust - 888-451-4519 (TD Ombudsman)


Hope that helps PC Geek ... you shouldn't have to go through hoops to get your money back.

[Fantastical]

This thread is stupid for merely $60.

EMT transaction can only be backed up by the seller's feedback/reputation.

If you think the seller's hassle of rebuilding his feedback/rating worth more than the $60, then it will be safe to do the transaction.

Once, I tried to sell the HD gift cards, and the buyer wants me to send the cards to them first saying he has like a few hundred feedback rating and it is risk free.

So, I ask myself whether his feedback really worth a few hundred dollar of my gift card, then I decide to forget about that transaction.

The end result of this issues is a LOSS/LOSS.

PC loses his $60 and siusiu loses his account/feedback.

PC you have done enough to badmouth siusiu, just let the issue goes if i were you.

[StoneColdWhat]

you guys are saying $60 like its nothing, it might not be much but you wouldn't like it if you got scammed, give the OP a break.

[Rx-87]

Sorry for bumping an old thread..

But having read/skimmed this . . (in all honesty took 30 mins.. skimming and reading... :( )..

A ending to this?? Resolution perhaps..? Watch out for future endeavors?

[tadabomb]

:?: niagara cool. cpu?

[akz]

wow... this was a nice break from studying... after 30 mins of reading this garbage.. seriously.. there are alot of:

1. people with too much time on their hands.. retards posting that other retards have no lives when they themselves have over 1-2k of posts on rfd..
2. alot of ignorant people here saying "if ur account got hacked ur liable for the fees" come on people even society has ruled out on that .. someone uses ur credit card do you have to pay for it? .. (everyones just pissed off cause they think he really did it, but im not even sure if he did or not)
3. hk isnt what you all think.. yes a netcafe is a walk away, but not everyone has a internet connection at home and time to troll around the fourms 24/7.. if he went back for such a long period then might be for something important or a job.. jobs in hk arent ur typical 9-5.. u dont leave the office till ur done. Lifestyle in hk is a lot different from what it is here.
4. for $60 and someone accusing me of someting i didnt do, ok i wouldnt really care over 60 cause even if u told someone i scammed somoene outta 60.. dosnt make u a hero esp when a plane ticket to hk is 100x more.. lol
5. why dosnt he post a bank statement with all his personal info? cause hes afraid with everyone making threats etc.. (you people took care of that) theres a reason why the mods here and on hofo want people to refrain from posting personal information first. (thats why alot of stuff is done in pm) I really wouldnt post my personal info onto here if I was him. *this isnt martial law people..
6. as for rdx and siu being the same person, come on a blind person can see the difference in writing styles ones clearly a fob and the other well lets say cbc?? (correct me if im wrong lol)
7. as for defense... for those who said rdx posts too much for someone and cares too much if u knew them personally and they are ur personal close friend then .. yes I would.. you would too. (I had a lil punk kid come at me and call me a scammer after he scammed me, other members ive dealt with came to my aid who wernt even that close..) If your friend was framed for a murder and u knew it wasnt him cause u drove him/her to the airport would u not come to his/her aid?
8. as for smashing and keying up someones car, hope your all not dumb enough to do that cause all your posts are evidence if anyone keys or smashes up his car your automatically liable.. a threat is a threat so dont be so hasty to type so lightly..

im not defending or getting into the case... just got angrier and angrier as I read this crap.. anyways im prolly not gonna even bother reading what happens afterwards ..

Only the mod, scammer, and scammee need to be talking..

but damn .. rfd has got too many members but way too many with little to no common sense..

[rdtx2002]

6. as for rdx and siu being the same person, come on a blind person can see the difference in writing styles ones clearly a fob and the other well lets say cbc?? (correct me if im wrong lol)


well.. seeing that I bought a mouse from you yesterday, you know i'm Asian and I can't be in HK (which Siuyiu is) ;)

[malaco0219]

well.. seeing that I bought a mouse from you yesterday, you know i'm Asian and I can't be in HK (which Siuyiu is) ;)

God, this is still not resolved?

[rdtx2002]

God, this is still not resolved?

what.. you think this would be resolved?... of course it won't be resolved.. the OP has disappeared.. and the other party is not talking.

[M.D.]

siuyu might be in HK but rdtx is using his account! BOOYAH case solved.

[Akuma_kumite]

Siuyiu is probably an HK triad member of Wo Shing. But no worries, I have Yakuza friends to look after him

[malaco0219]

what.. you think this would be resolved?... of course it won't be resolved.. the OP has disappeared.. and the other party is not talking.

Well, whatever, if OP wants to leave it, then yea, but I think Siuyiu should have done better in helping resolve this case.

Anyway, this case should be closed, and siuyiu is on my not to deal w/ list until he shows hardcore proof hes not guilty.