What exctly is a Über rig ?

[cpus456]

I know its a high end machine, but what are the qualifications

Maybe post your rigs and let see what we get.

Mine is a

AMD64 Opteron 170
ABit KN8 Sli
2 x 512mb Corsair TwinX3200 ddr400xl
2 x XFX 7600GT extreme's
Ultra X connect 550 watt sli power supply
2 x 80 GB Seagate baracudda's


Got a 3400 score in 3dMARK06
no overclocking!
how much of an increase do you think if i oc

I know its not a Über rig!

[Amourek]

Uber rig to me means 2GB of RAM, a Core 2 overclocked, a Geforce 8800 series card, and a couple of Raptors in RAID-0.

You should be able to get your Opteron up to at least 2.6Ghz.

[deep]

Uber rig to me means 2GB of RAM, a Core 2 overclocked, a Geforce 8800 series card, and a couple of Raptors in RAID-0.

I would say at least the first two of those 4 options are quite common now. You have to go above and beyond to be considered über.

4GB RAM + an X6800 or QX6700 would do it for me right now.

[crimsona]

Everybody forgets the Dell 30 inch LCD

Or the Apple. Or two of them.

[Minimal Effort]

Uber-iest Rig ATM

QX6700
8800GTX SLi
Striker Extreme
4GB Dominators (insane ones)
2x Raptors in Raid 0
SilverStone 800W+ PSU
Dell 30"
G15 + G7
Watercooled everything
In a nice TT case

[jollyeskimo]

It's what they call supercomputers in Germany.

[TenzoR]

Uber-iest Rig ATM

QX6700
8800GTX SLi
Striker Extreme
4GB Dominators (insane ones)
2x Raptors in Raid 0
SilverStone 800W+ PSU
Dell 30"
G15 + G7
Watercooled everything
In a nice TT case

that's pretty pathetic :P

[xwar]

that's pretty pathetic :P

Agreed .... TT cases suck. Silverstone FTW!

[deep]

Agreed .... TT cases suck. Silverstone FTW!

I recently picked up two SS cases, the LC03 and the LC13. Both came from the factory with glaring physical errors. One had a couple case fan screws missing, and one remaining was stripped bare...looked like they tried to remove it, couldn't, and just shipped it out. The same case also had one grommet for the foot missing, and so one foot was screwed on.

The other case had all FOUR feet screwed in....with 2 different kinds of screws. Amazingly, there were grommets in the box, floating free. Just never installed.

I was very disappointed with what is regarded as a relatively upscale case. On the other hand, both cases LOOKED good, which I guess is what people want.

[Silver Bullet]

I'd say I'm pretty close .. just waiting for DX10 card :)

But i think Über changes all the time, its hard to stay on top of things. I came from an Opty 170 to this rig, big difference :)

[TenzoR]

Agreed .... TT cases suck. Silverstone FTW!

Lets see for gaming I guess a quad core extreme is fine :P

but overall I would prefer

dual quad xeon 5355
1x8800gtx
4gb (2x1gb per processor)
pci-x fibre channel hardware raid card, raid 5 4x Curtis HyperXCLR, 1x for spare hotswappable

http://www.sparcproductdirectory.com/ssd1.html

pci-e sata hardware raid card, raid 5 4x hitachi 1terabyte sata drives (is this even out?)

pc power cooling Turbo-Cool 1KW-SR PSU

as much as I want a 30", I'd prefer 2x Eizo FlexScan S2411W

[cpus456]

tha guys for making this clear:D

[importpsycho]

quad everything~~~
quad core
quad SLI

[cpus456]

how bout AMD Uber ?

[MrDisco]

you're all hopelessly wrong. its whatever computer system has the ATI Uber edition cards w/briefcase.

[hagbard]

Don't forget your uber cereal to eat in front of your uber computer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbS6kAMP3Bs

[supernerd]

Why does it have to be an x86 machine? Why not something like an IBM p695?

64 x POWER5 @ 2.3 GHz
1152MB L3 cache
2TB DDR2

That's what I call uber :P

[cwb27]

Pentium 233 MMX
32 MB EDO RAM
ATI Rage 128 Pro All In Wonder 16mb AGP (1x of course)
15 GB Western Digital 5400 RPM HD
24x CD Drive
2x CD Burner


Eat it.

[happyplato]

If it doesn't beat 98% of the existing PC, then it is not uber. This usually means, it is top of the line. On top of it, you have to overclock it. But since the PC industry is changing fast, you can only be uber for maybe a couple weeks and that is it.

[Jon Lai]

Personally I consider anything that is higher model than mainstream to be Uber...

Like standards right now for monitors is 19, so even a 20" could be Uber. Bascially for Uber, you're getting higher end parts than what "mainstream" is, at least that's my own definition.

[BlueMax]

It's what they call supercomputers in Germany.

[drum fill]

:)

Unless you're using super-computing power to MAKE MONEY and that extra speed means MORE money, there's no need for super-mega-high-end equipment unless you've got scads and gobs of money to waste.

You pay an insanely high premium for the ~~10-40% gain from moderate, cheap equipment and top-of-the-line super expensive stuff.

Overclocker's RAM, for example. You pay such a high premium on the RAM and an overclocker's motherboard (not to mention special cooling,) you could have just bought faster RAM, standard motherboard and a faster processor to almost equal an insane overclock, for the same money (or less sometimes) and not fear burnout.

[BlueMax]

Pentium 233 MMX
32 MB EDO RAM
ATI Rage 128 Pro All In Wonder 16mb AGP (1x of course)
15 GB Western Digital 5400 RPM HD
24x CD Drive
2x CD Burner

Eat it.

Aww man! My AMD 486DX4-120 with VLB video and VLB caching controller aren't Super-Uber anymore? Aw crud. :(

(I actually owned those back when it was "fast".) :)

[board123]

[drum fill]

:)

Unless you're using super-computing power to MAKE MONEY and that extra speed means MORE money, there's no need for super-mega-high-end equipment unless you've got scads and gobs of money to waste.

You pay an insanely high premium for the ~~10-40% gain from moderate, cheap equipment and top-of-the-line super expensive stuff.

Overclocker's RAM, for example. You pay such a high premium on the RAM and an overclocker's motherboard (not to mention special cooling,) you could have just bought faster RAM, standard motherboard and a faster processor to almost equal an insane overclock, for the same money (or less sometimes) and not fear burnout.
Buying RAM is one of the big things that separates enthusiasts from average users. Knowing what RAM to buy is crucial to overclocking, but it doesn't have to be "overclocker's RAM." It's just about buying the right RAM for what you're trying to overclock (i.e. only need DDR2-667 for Allendale overclocking). I did not pay a premium for my RAM and look what I got out of my system.

Faster RAM, faster CPU and cheaper motherboard is MUCH more expensive than regular (appropriate) RAM, low-end CPU and a decent overclocking motherboard (i.e. Asus P5B-E, Gigabyte S3/DS3, etc.). Asus Striker and eVGA 680i are not the only good overclockers out there, you know? Overclocking is always a better value than getting higher-end parts. Why do you think people overclock in the first place?

Now back on topic... the system in my sig is a very low-end uber system. It's still leaps and bounds better than what most people have, but when you get into the realm of uber builds, this is nothing.

[matradley]

Lets see for gaming I guess a quad core extreme is fine :P

but overall I would prefer

dual quad xeon 5355
1x8800gtx
4gb (2x1gb per processor)
pci-x fibre channel hardware raid card, raid 5 4x Curtis HyperXCLR, 1x for spare hotswappable

http://www.sparcproductdirectory.com/ssd1.html

pci-e sata hardware raid card, raid 5 4x hitachi 1terabyte sata drives (is this even out?)

pc power cooling Turbo-Cool 1KW-SR PSU

as much as I want a 30", I'd prefer 2x Eizo FlexScan S2411W
All I can say is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[BlueMax]

That's just not always true. In the C2D world, you need a "good" board of around $200-250 for decent overclocking. Combine that with the cheap $250 processor and fancier $400 (2x1GB) RAM [$850-900 total] and you'll probably get the same performance (or, yes, slightly better) than a $500 processor, $100 board and $200 RAM [$800 total] Factor a tornado cooler ($75) or water cooling ($lots) and you negate most of your "savings" by having all those pimped-out parts.


Even if you do come out ahead, you have to ask yourself if it was worth it?
All that effort to gain potential instability, heat, and shorter lifespan.

The sensible route would be a MODERATE board ($125-175) moderate CPU (like the new E4300 - $225) and cheap-but-fast PC2-800 RAM ($250 2GB) and overclock it A LITTLE. All the performance anyone could ever want (the top end is only 30% faster) but for a LOT less money.



Then again, many people have more "dollars" than "sense" and either want the most-expensive-best-of-the-best for bragging rights, or want to push any piece of equipment they have to the absolute redline, often burning components out or damaging them - leaving them unresellable.


Must be nice to have money to waste like that.

[mahpoaht]

IMO, Uber computers are ones that handle the traffic of the internet :D

[board123]

That's just not always true. In the C2D world, you need a "good" board of around $200-250 for decent overclocking. Combine that with the cheap $250 processor and fancier $400 (2x1GB) RAM [$850-900 total] and you'll probably get the same performance (or, yes, slightly better) than a $500 processor, $100 board and $200 RAM [$800 total] Factor a tornado cooler ($75) or water cooling ($lots) and you negate most of your "savings" by having all those pimped-out parts.
Again, look at my sig:

E6300 = $200
AC Freezer 7 Pro = $23
Gigabyte DS3 = $170
2x1024 OCZ Platinum DDR2-800 = $240

Compare this with:

E6700 = $500+
Stock cooler = $0
Budget P965 board = ~$100
2x1024 generic DDR2-667 = ~$220

Which one is more expensive? Which one has higher performance? You tell me. What is a "decent overclock" for you? 450+ FSB good enough for you? How stable is stable enough? 24-hour Orthos? Why would you get the E4300 if you're only overclocking "a little?" If you pair it with DDR2-800, you are guaranteed 3+ GHz. If you're got going for that much, there is no sense in getting DDR2-800 in the first place. Heck, if you don't overclock, DDR2-533 is enough. Do you even know the reason why overclockerss buy fast memory? I'll give you a hint: it has nothing to do with memory performance. And speaking of sense, please, don't argue about the value of overclocking if you don't have much, if any, in-depth knowledge of the example you're using.

You chose a very poor example in C2D because the E6300 and E4300 are two of the best overclocking chips ever made. The socket 939 Athlon 64s are much more suitable for your argument. The people who waste money are the ones who buy C2Ds and don't overclock them.

[JLee]

The people who waste money are the ones who buy C2Ds and don't overclock them.

I agree with this statement but how does that have anything to do with what bluemax said?

he said moderate overclock....

[TenzoR]

The people who waste money are the ones who buy C2Ds and don't overclock them.

Nah they've been there done that.

[TenzoR]

All I can say is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

uber rig has no price limitation :D

[board123]

I agree with this statement but how does that have anything to do with what bluemax said?

he said moderate overclock....
He didn't specify how much is "moderate" so I assumed he meant something in the range of 20% which is pointless.