White girls who will only date white guys

[MrKat]

Ok first off, Im hoping that nobody takes offense by my thread title or by anything they read in this thread. I have looked it over to make sure it has been written so that people dont get that impression. Im just using that as an example. I guess a generalization would be "people who will only date within their race.":)

Secondly, Im just speaking in general, I have love in my life so its not like Im out on the prowl anymore :o But when I was younger, single and still in my bar years, college, etc...I did have to go through a lot of this. And now, its more so my younger brother as he is experiencing the exact same thing - hes only 21 btw, I turn 26 next month.

Now, I'm not saying theres anything wrong with this, but just that I dont see how anyone can be so close minded towards meeting people of the opposite sex. A lot of the white girls Ive known, tend to only want to date guys of the same race. Wait, let me rephrase that...a lot of white girls Ive known only wanted anything to do with guys of the same race.:rolleyes:

Even if its just friends, they will automatically disqualify you as dating material if you are not their race. Personally, I think this is being very ignorant and judgemental - and if not...very very close to racial discrimination because you are obviously viewing guys who arent the same race as you as unqualified material - people lesser than you. Please people, dont give me that "oh everyone just has preferences" excuse, its a crock of crap as far as Im concerned, and very misleading, otherwise this would NOT even be an issue to them at all. It would be the LEAST of their worries.

Sure I have my preferences, for instance, Im hugely attracted to white, spanish, and mixed girls (im half jap, half flip), and Im not all that physically attracted to indian, asian or black girls. But you dont see me limiting my connections with them just because they arent my race. Really, give me a break...I was never one to have such crazily high standards in race when it came to meeting girls. Frankly it really bothers me when for instance my brother, who is trying to get to know these girls and they want nothing to do with him or even get to know him because he's not the girls race.:rolleyes:

Why is this so common in a lot of the white girls Ive known? I would say almost one in three will act this way. To me, its always been a deal breaker. Having a girl who puts so much emphasis on this when really it shouldnt be an issue at all. i know what everyone will say, everyone has certain races in which they are more physically attracted to than in others and I understand. But to not even want anything to do with them as in friends? Please dont be so close minded when it comes to meeting new people, life is short enough as is and we only live once. One can never know too many people in life.

"So youre white right?" "So youre white right?" "So youre white right?" Haha I remember back in the day when I would be set up on blind dates and god knows how many times I would hear this. Its almost like when I would hear a girl say that - I knew race was obviously an issue to her, so goodbye. Even worse, when they are the very first words that come out of her mouth HA!

Im just saying, there are beautiful people of all races in this world. If I happen to meet a really nice black girl tommorow who wants to be friends, I'm not going to push her aside like shes nobody just because shes black.

Would any of you guys/girls let something like this bother you, seeing a person who sees life this way? Thankfully I dont have to, but I have dated girls like this in the past and trust me, they dont last. Im sorry, but the colour of somebodys skin would be the last thing of my mind...ever. If its such an issue to them, move on, dont waste anymore of your time as you deserve better.

I do hope that some of you are able to see my point Im trying to get across.:)

[Cyber6]

I feel your pain

this woman rejected me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq20b4eb6z0

it hurt
very painful

she said that I was too young for her
what's age got to do with it?

:mad:

I looove Tina, I wish I can have legs like that when I am... 80?? ;)

edit: Forgot to say that I looove her sax player... :D


C.

[d_jedi]

White girls aren't the only ones like that..

[ullyeus]

For someone who doesn' care you sure seem to care.


*shrug* I don't know many people like you describe.

[Andro]

i don't see any problem with people who want to date within their race....... i mean should they just jump all over you because you said so, it's their personal preference let it be.

[ericyjh85]

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6808/ep3yul02zo2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

get this body and a lot of money.

[drucillica]

Whereas I see where you're coming from, you can't really help who you're attracted to. Meh.

On a side note, I've recently reconnected (through Facebook) with a bunch of people I haven't talked to since highschool. Seems to me that everyone is in an interracial relationship now.

[MrKat]

Whereas I see where you're coming from, you can't really help who you're attracted to. Meh.

On a side note, I've recently reconnected (through Facebook) with a bunch of people I haven't talked to since highschool. Seems to me that everyone is in an interracial relationship now.

Hey all my sisters are married to white guys, one even a black guy. Even they admitted, they werent hugely attracted to their hubbys race...up until they met them. And that is because they were so open in what kind of guys they would meet.

[that_staples_guy]

I can somewhat feel what the OP is feeling to a lesser extent. I'm a south indian guy, born here in canada. I've had g/f's before of many colours including your run of the mill white girl who has blood from every european country ( you know, i'm a bit irish, and french and...).

I do have my preferences, i.e. i'm slightly inclined to certain races and i'm sure 99% of you are too, I haven't completely written off white females, but because i feel that most white girls would rather be with someone of their own race as its somewhat clear to see, i've kinda started ignoring white girls altogether as dating prospects

[grant]

I do hope that some of you are able to see my point Im trying to get across.:)
No, what IS your point?

Sometimes people aren't attracted to different races? How is that different than people who aren't attracted to ugly people, or poor people, or whatever?

[MrDisco]

yeah i didn't quite get the point either. asians (etc) can be just as closed-minded as the hypothetical white girl in the op's post.

[Anessa]

I don't think that's true at all. You just have to give them a reason to want to date you eg. personality, charm, wit, looks. Not fair to single out white girls as only wanting their own. All cultures have individuals who will only date or marry within their own ethnic group.

[BlueMax]

yeah i didn't quite get the point either. asians (etc) can be just as closed-minded as the hypothetical white girl in the op's post.

Even moreso, according to the "date asian" threads here!

[i6s1]

Girls are more likely then guys to prefer one race over another.


What I really mean is that guys will take anything.

[DaVibe]

Maybe it's because you're in Calgary, but welcome to North York where all the white girls are going out with other races ... I have friends doing it right now come to think of it.

Besides, its peoples preferences. Let them live how they want to. I'm white and I have a white preference. Doesn't mean I would NEVER DATE an indian girl or a black girl, but I've come to PREFER white women ... so what, that's my choice.

[Thundercloud]

Too long, didn't read. :(

[Electricute]

Too long, didn't read. :(

agreed,

white GIRLs are hot, and i will only date white girls. tHAT IS all

[CharmyPoo]

I have a chinese guy friend that had no problems attracting and getting white girls. Yes, he is buff, a total gentleman and knows how to spoil a girl. Could those be the reasons? After dating a large number of white girls, he is now holding steady with a Taiwanese girl.

[DaVibe]

I have a chinese guy friend that - is buff - and knows how to spoil a girl.

Could those be the reasons?

To answer YOUR question - the answer is yes.

[BlueX]

Does that mean girls like big muscular guys?

[Canuck_2005]

Hey all my sisters are married to white guys, one even a black guy. Even they admitted, they werent hugely attracted to their hubbys race...up until they met them. And that is because they were so open in what kind of guys they would meet.

"EVEN a black guy" considering the topic, i find this quote to be interesting

[BlueMax]

Does that mean girls like big muscular guys?

Nicely toned, muscles definately present, not flabby at all; yes.

Origina-Schwartzenegger-style ripped to the max? No - most I've spoken to thought it was icky. (Or refused to admit otherwise.)


These men buying ridiculous protein crap and pumping for hours a day to get all ripped aren't going to impress a girl any more than a good guy with "good" muscle tone would. Getting all big on yourself because you're "buff" is quite a turnoff to most. You lump yourself in the "egotistical" and/or "high-maintenance" category I hear so many girls in the office talking about.

My office of ~200 people is 95% female. :confused: :| :eek:

[ShaTR]

I don't seem to notice that kinda stuff at all. maybe from the fobs, but all the ones born or who have lived in this country for a long enough time don't seem to have this hangup.

I dunno if it has something to do with your race or something, but as a brown guy, i see enuf of us goin out with girls of all races. cept for black girls, they don't seem to like brown guys much. not sure why, but im not terribly attracted to them either, so works out well for me.

on top of that, all my friends (cept for 1 girl) are not brown. white, chinese, russian/ukranian, greek, etc etc.

strikes me as odd though. i never hear anybody saying stuff like that in the GTA. USA is a different story.

[konfusion666]

My office of ~200 people is 95% female. :confused: :| :eek:

My condolences.

[ChrisBa]

I do not see anything wrong with this, maybe they are only attracted to white guys..

[AudiDude]

"EVEN a black guy" considering the topic, i find this quote to be interesting

I was going to mention that small excerpt myself...

[Audiogenic]

Dating is not like shopping at Canadian tire.

Different women have preferences for masculine men, tall, shorter, staukier, skinnier, wealthier, ect.

Get over it.

[Homo_Erectus]

I don't seem to notice that kinda stuff at all. maybe from the fobs, but all the ones born or who have lived in this country for a long enough time don't seem to have this hangup.

I dunno if it has something to do with your race or something, but as a brown guy, i see enuf of us goin out with girls of all races. cept for black girls, they don't seem to like brown guys much. not sure why, but im not terribly attracted to them either, so works out well for me.

on top of that, all my friends (cept for 1 girl) are not brown. white, chinese, russian/ukranian, greek, etc etc.

strikes me as odd though. i never hear anybody saying stuff like that in the GTA. USA is a different story.


A lot of Black girls have been attracted to me. And it has been mostly the sexy/attractive individuals too. I've gotten Jamaican Black/Chinese mixed Blasian girls, Guyanese Black girls, Trini's, Africans.

Also the Brown South Asian girls have had crushes on me too.

hmmmmmmmmm..... a few Filipinas found me cute.

As for White girls,
never ever have I been on a date with one. They don't find me attractive or something. Oh well, I'm content with caramel and mocha lol. Vanilla is okay but.... whatever floats my boat right?

BTW I am East Asian.

[robattoronto]

And there ya go. A post which I agree with.

It goes without saying that women are pickier than men when it comes to mate selections. And the pretty ones even more so. You may not like it, go sit in the corner and pout. It won't change a damn thing.

Now the question is, what did you do to get what you want?

With all the self bashing negativity floating around this thread, I'd say you're giving them plenty reasons to be rejected.


Dating is not like shopping at Canadian tire.

Different women have preferences for masculine men, tall, shorter, staukier, skinnier, wealthier, ect.

Get over it.

[Suresh]

Albeit I agree with your generlization somewhat, I have to say that a lot goes into "partner selection" than one person thinks about when they are on the flipside of the coin.
I have dated many different women of different nationalities...and some of them have admitted downright that they would never have considerd dating a man of 'colour' until they had met me. I'm not an old guy, and this was years ago, so we were all young...and it was around the time when 'mixed' couples were becoming more and more accepted on the streets of toronto. I remember when i was 18 and dating a canadian girl, we were the only mixed couple in the malls and streets...now they're everywhere, it's very promising that we can mix as a society and grow...
..sometimes these women tend to have predisposed assumptions about certain cultures....some women think that black guys cheat, brown guys abuse, and chinese guys can't get it up...i mean it's social stereotypes and it does have influence on young people...

..as I got older, i never encountered this problem...I meet more and more women that are open to mixed relationships and don't care about your skin colour...so i can say that generally this problem is more associated with younger people who haven't had a chance to mature in society and figure out what they want..

..from my end, coming from a very traditional old school indian family, I went through my own problems of explaining to the non 'indian' girls about my families traditions, and what's expected and what's disliked etc...every culture has this sort of thing...but i think we're all growing from it and becoming more and more accepting of mixed races.

I have 2 female friends, who are white, who are getting married this year. One to a sikh man, the other to a black man. Both of those female friends I have known for years, and thought back then that I would never see them settle with someone other than a white boy. they've matured, and this is where they are now.

On top of that, people DO have preferences, and there is nothing you can do about that. don't analyze it, criticize is or condemn it. We're all different people, raised differently and have different tastes due to our past experiences...that shouldn't be the base of your generalization. If a girl says she has a preference, then according to her mental state at that age, that is her preference, and we all know preferences change with age.

[Homo_Erectus]

And there ya go. A post which I agree with.

It goes without saying that women are pickier than men when it comes to mate selections. And the pretty ones even more so. You may not like it, go sit in the corner and pout. It won't change a damn thing.

Now the question is, what did you do to get what you want?

With all the self bashing negativity floating around this thread, I'd say you're giving them plenty reasons to be rejected.

I agree with you somewhat. Though I would have to say the hot women tend to want what they see in the movies and t.v sitcoms with Hollywood's perspective of what a good looking man should be. This means ALL women. I have seen White women, Black women, Brown Women, Asian women, etc lust over the "good looking" Hollywood White actors (and sometimes sexy Black male actors). Bradd Pitt, Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp, Denzel Washington, Usher (though not an actor per se), Jackie Chan-William Hung=NOT! lmfao.
You tend not to see TOO many "hot" Asian male actors being portrayed in many of those films/sitcoms.
Asians;
You usually see typically extra silent type, violent kung fu grip dude with no emotional depth (except for when he beats up a bunch of guys while the White lead character gets the woman lol), or the computer nerd with glasses who does all the work.

There ARE exceptions to the rule, like Harold and Kumar where the lead role was an Asian guy who ends up getting the girl at the end. Though this type of event for now is far and few (except in some kung fu movies, where every single Asian character male/female happens to be super ninja or kung fu master w/stereotypical Hong Kong broken English accents, the kung fu guy usually gets the kung fu Asian girl here...... that or he dies at the end and the girl cries over his dead body)

I honestly wish women in this world would just turn off their t.v sets for a day, or stop glorifying the movie macho hunks. And realize that their are the rest of us men out there, who do not jump out of buildings, be heroes and save a lady from a group of 20 heavily armed bad guys, or have 100% fine chisled "hollywood" looks. If the women can just observe us for us a bit long enough, they will realize us "regular dudes" have a lot to offer too. We show sensativity, senses of humours, and even weakness (things the media doesn't want to be shown in a man often times).

But all and all its true, feeling sorry for ourselves all the time and allowing the woman to feel superior to you would not help the situation out. You want to stand on equal grounds with her.
Once she see's you hang your head down low and slump in a corner, it would give her even more reason to see you as "not MAN enough for her". Even though we men feel depressed and upset sometimes, a woman is not supposed to see that right (I know its ridulous and all, pretending we men don't have weaknesses but...).
Sometimes I think some women just want to see a reaction by us guys when they reject us, to make themselves feel like higher being queens lol.
Why I don't know. But from my general observation, I notice when I over-reacted to women who rejected me in the past, I saw changes in their confidence levels. They acted like they were the TOP DOGS and that every GUY ON THE PLANET had the hots for them, and I was just another number they elimated from their list lol. "Play The Game" like Freddie Mercury sang once...

[BlueMax]

I agree with you somewhat. Though I would have to say the hot women tend to want what they see in the movies and t.v sitcoms with Hollywood's perspective of what a good looking man should be. This means ALL women. I have seen White women, Black women, Brown Women, Asian women, etc lust over the "good looking" Hollywood White actors (and sometimes sexy Black male actors). Bradd Pitt, Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp, Denzel Washington, Usher (though not an actor per se), Jackie Chan-William Hung=NOT! lmfao.
You tend not to see TOO many "hot" Asian male actors being portrayed in many of those films/sitcoms.
Asians;
You usually see typically extra silent type, violent kung fu grip dude with no emotional depth (except for when he beats up a bunch of guys while the White lead character gets the woman lol), or the computer nerd with glasses who does all the work.

There ARE exceptions to the rule, like Harold and Kumar where the lead role was an Asian guy who ends up getting the girl at the end. Though this type of event for now is far and few (except in some kung fu movies, where every single Asian character male/female happens to be super ninja or kung fu master w/stereotypical Hong Kong broken English accents, the kung fu guy usually gets the kung fu Asian girl here...... that or he dies at the end and the girl cries over his dead body)

I honestly wish women in this world would just turn off their t.v sets for a day, or stop glorifying the movie macho hunks. And realize that their are the rest of us men out there, who do not jump out of buildings, be heroes and save a lady from a group of 20 heavily armed bad guys, or have 100% fine chisled "hollywood" looks. If the women can just observe us for us a bit long enough, they will realize us "regular dudes" have a lot to offer too. We show sensativity, senses of humours, and even weakness (things the media doesn't want to be shown in a man often times).

But all and all its true, feeling sorry for ourselves all the time and allowing the woman to feel superior to you would not help the situation out. You want to stand on equal grounds with her.
Once she see's you hang your head down low and slump in a corner, it would give her even more reason to see you as "not MAN enough for her". Even though we men feel depressed and upset sometimes, a woman is not supposed to see that right (I know its ridulous and all, pretending we men don't have weaknesses but...).
Sometimes I think some women just want to see a reaction by us guys when they reject us, to make themselves feel like higher being queens lol.
Why I don't know. But from my general observation, I notice when I over-reacted to women who rejected me in the past, I saw changes in their confidence levels. They acted like they were the TOP DOGS and that every GUY ON THE PLANET had the hots for them, and I was just another number they elimated from their list lol. "Play The Game" like Freddie Mercury sang once...


Bingo! Right on the head, I think! :) That goes for non-asians, too!

[that_staples_guy]

Speaking of media portrayals that are stereotypical, I saw this XM commercial the other day, it featured an South Asian man, in his 30's. He was driving a Cadillac (either an STS or a CTS, don't remember) grooving to his tunes.

He had a nice suit on, well groomed and just enjoying his music. This is happening at the stop light, 3 women are watching this guy move his body to the music, two white, and one black. He notices them staring at this funny scene he's making and he looks straight ahead in pure embarrassment. Then you see from the front view of the car 3 satin/lace panties get thrown into the car.

It was cool to see that, and being South Asian myself, it brought a smile to my face. The guy had a nice car, looked well off, and was attractive to those three women. It reminded me of something either Usher or P. Diddy/Daddy/etc. said: "America is not yet ready to see a black man kiss a white girl." I say, congrats to XM, Sirius or whoever that was to break the status quo and portray a coloured man in such a way.

[UrbanPoet]

Speaking of media portrayals that are stereotypical, I saw this XM commercial the other day, it featured an South Asian man, in his 30's. He was driving a Cadillac (either an STS or a CTS, don't remember) grooving to his tunes.

He had a nice suit on, well groomed and just enjoying his music. This is happening at the stop light, 3 women are watching this guy move his body to the music, two white, and one black. He notices them staring at this funny scene he's making and he looks straight ahead in pure embarrassment. Then you see from the front view of the car 3 satin/lace panties get thrown into the car.

It was cool to see that, and being South Asian myself, it brought a smile to my face. The guy had a nice car, looked well off, and was attractive to those three women. It reminded me of something either Usher or P. Diddy/Daddy/etc. said: "America is not yet ready to see a black man kiss a white girl." I say, congrats to XM, Sirius or whoever that was to break the status quo and portray a coloured man in such a way.

You know that commercial was only to rub in the unsexiness of brown guys right?
I find that commercial kinda insulting in a way that they tried to pick the person that you think is the least unattractive... Then something uncharacteristic happens... girls throw thongs @ him like a rock star.

Aside from personal attributes, The media portrayal of minorities does shape public perception of minorities.

Whenever i "blame" the media i dont do it in a sense that the MEdia is @ fault for how Asian ppl act. But rather it does a great deal in shaping peoples perception of Minorities.

Example.
On the news every day you hear about black people shooting, robbing, stealing, killing etc.... People have this perception that 'all black people are bad' even if they are well educated/well rounded people.

average asian ! :O
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2jMLqd9-C0A

[ShaTR]

You know that commercial was only to rub in the unsexiness of brown guys right?

right.... cuz a white, east asian, or black 30yr old guy rockin away like that in an caddy would look so much sexier :rolleyes: its just a frikkin commercial people.

stupid, dumb stereotypes

stop blaming the media and Hollywood movies

why don't you turn on the charm and IMPROVE YOUR APPEARANCE?

you people who can't attract girls don't have CHARM

it would also help if you improved your appearance

and who would be attracted to paranoid, delusional ranting and raving, insecure guys?

you see beautiful girls with ugly guys
why?
because those ugly guys had the confidence or charm or money to attract a beautiful girl

guys who can't attract girls usually don't have confidence, appearance needs to be MODERNIZED, personality needs to be improved, conversational skills need to be improved; get a sense of humour; smile a lot and you will attract people

otherwise, there is hope for you desperados:
- mail-order bride
- prostitutes
- strippers
- arranged marriage

ps. this thread is embarrassing
- asian (Japanese/Filipino) guy begs white women to date him and his brother

:arrowu:

QFT

some people need to step ya game up!

[BlueMax]

You know that commercial was only to rub in the unsexiness of brown guys right?
I find that commercial kinda insulting in a way that they tried to pick the person that you think is the least unattractive... Then something uncharacteristic happens... girls throw thongs @ him like a rock star.


I think you're just being oversensitive there. They threw the panties to a "rock star" regardless of how sexy or not he might have been, cause it's the thing to do to rock stars. ;)

[that_staples_guy]

No no, I hear what UrbanPoet is saying here and I really didn't look at it that way. He has a point there.

Has anyone seen the Vonage VOIP commercials? You know the one with the ugly nerd and the hot girlfriend with the Ferrari? The juxtaposition here in the XM commercial somewhat parallels that when you look at it the way UrbanPoet is saying. Either way, I can see it from both sides.

[ZenOps]

I liked that XM commercial too.

I don't think it meant so much to mean anything, just for regular joe dudes to "lighten up" enjoy the music and let go every once in a while and good things will happen.

I'm not really all that concerned about white girls seemingly not dating ethnic guys. I mean statistically if minorities count for 12 percent of the population, a white girl would have be dating through 8 white men before she got to dating one ethnic guy. For girls who do little to no dating, they may never hit an ethnic male (their loss btw, hehe.) before they start something serious.

[ShaTR]

for anyone who hasn't seen it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxhB_-6DSA

[van]

A lot of the white girls Ive known, tend to only want to date guys of the same race. Wait, let me rephrase that...a lot of white girls Ive known only wanted anything to do with guys of the same race.
Even if its just friends, they will automatically disqualify you as dating material if you are not their race.

I suspect that the reason why you think that way is because you have been rejected by a lot of white girls.

I see things totally differently. I currently have a white GF, had no problems dating white girls in the past, and I too am asian (Filipino). Infact all my brothers are married to white girls, and I know many asians who have white GF's. When I ask my GF what she thinks about this (she's sitting right beside me right now as I type, she laughed at your post), she says it usually has nothing to do with race and everything to do with being attractive as well a matching personality.

So as bad as this may sound, it's more then likely these white female friends of yours just simply didn't find you attractive enough to want to date you.

[Becks]

If you're not attracted by someone.. if you're repulsed by someone you know thinks you're hot, wouldn't it make sense that you would feel uncomfortable hanging around them and being "friends"? If a flaming gay guy hit on the OP, would he feel comfy hanging out with him at the club?

[ShaTR]

likely these white female friends of yours just simply didn't find you attractive enough to want to date you.

thats a narrow minded and shallow point of view. most people can look decent if they try. and if your dat fugly, you can still get with fugly white girls. so i don't see physical attractivness being an issue.

confidence, personality, sincerity, sence of humour, etc etc all go a long way.

ever notice how somone who, when you don't know them, just look average. but when you get to know them, they start looking better and better??? weird how that works eh.... not really. i can think of a LOT of girls who when i first met them, i just though, wutever. but as i got to know them, started looking better and better up to the point where i consider them HOT.

works the other way too. know girls who i used to think were VERY attractive, but now that i know them, strike me as quite the opposite. litterally. i don't like their face, i notice things about their smiles and mannerisms that i find ugly, etc etc.

[astraea]

ps. this thread is embarrassing
- asian (Japanese/Filipino) guy begs white women to date him and his brother

:arrowu:

:lol:

[van]

thats a narrow minded and shallow point of view. most people can look decent if they try. and if your dat fugly, you can still get with fugly white girls. so i don't see physical attractivness being an issue.

confidence, personality, sincerity, sence of humour, etc etc all go a long way.


That's the point of view from my "white" GF.

And attractiveness doesn't all center around the physical like you think it does. Attractiveness can also include personality, sence of humor, etc. Obviosly a meaningful relationship will not last based on phyiscal attraction alone.

But I agree with her when she says that the physical aspect is usually what most people look for first, before even getting to know the person. Its what initially attracted me to my GF, and visa versa..

[Spidey]

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6808/ep3yul02zo2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

get this body and a lot of money.


Cool, thats my build. Hope to gain 5 more lbs my the end of the year

[van]

If you're not attracted by someone.. if you're repulsed by someone you know thinks you're hot, wouldn't it make sense that you would feel uncomfortable hanging around them and being "friends"? If a flaming gay guy hit on the OP, would he feel comfy hanging out with him at the club?

Not nessesarily, as you may not find someone physically attractive but your personalities mesh and thus can be friends. Infact, there are even some girls that will take advantage of this, and string the guy along to get free rides, dinners, money, etc. I've seen it happen. Hopefully the OP is not one of these guys.

[BlueMax]

Not nessesarily, as you may not find someone physically attractive but your personalities mesh and thus can be friends. Infact, there are even some girls that will take advantage of this, and string the guy along to get free rides, dinners, money, etc. I've seen it happen. Hopefully the OP is not one of these guys.

What you described is not friendship. I've been used that way in the past. Gal KNOWS you're hot for her and she takes total advantage. When guy calls it quits it doesn't even faze her and she moves on to the next sucker.

She's evil, and you're the stupid sucker who falls for it. Which is worse?

[Becks]

No, I've been friends with people fine, no problem. But once I find out that they "like" me, it's hard to shake off that gross feeling. You know, like you want to take a shower or something. You will always wonder if they are undressing you with their eyes or something.

[van]

No, I've been friends with people fine, no problem. But once I find out that they "like" me, it's hard to shake off that gross feeling. You know, like you want to take a shower or something. You will always wonder if they are undressing you with their eyes or something.

Sure some girls like yourself will react that way (I assume you are a girl judging by your response). But I know some girls that would think nothing of it and still remain friends.

What makes you think the guy-friends you have, haven't already fantasized about you and just haven't admitted that they "liked" you. ;) Friend or not, if your good-looking, trust me you've already been undressed by every guy that's looked at you.

[van]

What you described is not friendship. I've been used that way in the past. Gal KNOWS you're hot for her and she takes total advantage. When guy calls it quits it doesn't even faze her and she moves on to the next sucker.

Yup I know, not a friendship when you are being used like that.

It's a parasitic relationship, whereby the girl gives you the illusion of friendship while in reality she's a sponge and sucking you dry.

I've been smart enough not to be in that type of relationship, but had friends who have.

[codemonkey]

RFD has taught me more than school ever could... :)

[jayk]

Women in general like tall, good-looking, muscular (toned) men with great personalities and social success.

Having said that, the media stereotype from down south has a huge influence. In Canada and the US, we are all brainwashed. Go to a bookstore, and find out the first thing a teenage girl pulls out...it's a teen magazine. Turn on the TV and see who is the next bachelor, some white dude.

I realize that some people blow it out of proportion, but it does play a role. To just write off this type of discussion as favorite terms that are commonly used such as "insecurity" or "just suck it up" mean that people acknowledge this is happening.

Having said that, I have noticed that European, Hispanic and Quebec French girls tend to date Asian guys more. I have seen some serious white hotties with average Asian guys. I think it's because they got their own unique culture, whereas in Canada we are a country of passivity, whatever the US feeds us we will eat.

But with white girls, they also do tend to age very quickly, so I guess you could look on the bright side :) They are nice to date etc. when they're young. But if you are considering marrying one for her looks, think hard for long term. I have seen white girls go down in their looks, as quick as the drop of a coin. Eg. Look at Ali Larter, compared to 10 years ago when she was a serious hottie. Now, she smiles and you can find 3 sets of wrinkles on either side of her lips. Makes her look so old. She's only 30 years old!!! What will she look like at age 35?? I guess the world was created equal?

http://dvdtoile.com/ARTISTES/1/1356.jpg

I remember seeing a wrinkly middle-aged woman I know and being astounded at her hot daughter, but then picturing her hot daughter morphing into her in 10 years...[shudder]

I find it interesting though, that even though Black girls are left out of the "sexy girl" image in Hollywood, they don't express much interest in males of other races.

[BlueMax]

Funny you should say that. :) :arrowu:

I've noticed that the asian ladies look pretty until 40-50 and all of a sudden look about 132 - wizened and ancient - just about ready to crumble! (Same for first-nations people...) Of course, there's always examples of hotties from all cultures, still looking amazing in their 70's... and lots of people that look frumpy and dumpy at 37.

[Homo_Erectus]

thats a narrow minded and shallow point of view. most people can look decent if they try. and if your dat fugly, you can still get with fugly white girls. so i don't see physical attractivness being an issue.

confidence, personality, sincerity, sence of humour, etc etc all go a long way.

ever notice how somone who, when you don't know them, just look average. but when you get to know them, they start looking better and better??? weird how that works eh.... not really. i can think of a LOT of girls who when i first met them, i just though, wutever. but as i got to know them, started looking better and better up to the point where i consider them HOT.

works the other way too. know girls who i used to think were VERY attractive, but now that i know them, strike me as quite the opposite. litterally. i don't like their face, i notice things about their smiles and mannerisms that i find ugly, etc etc.


I personally was thinking about hiring an Image Consultant. But I fear for the price range they offer. In Toronto it must be expensive. I am looking for one who understands the young look you know? Not just what 30 year old and above are supposed to dress to impress like lol.

Who knows, might as well give it a shot. Also they go beyond just helping with your wardrobe, a lot also focus their attention on your attitude/personality/social skills.

Sounds like a good investment. Screw the media, I'll be sexy cuz I want to lmfao! My slanted eyes will make all the sexy, clean (non std/AIDS), single ladies fall in lustful love with me!!! :twisted:

[ShaTR]

no matter what ya'll say, a girl aint gonna see a picture of you and see "hot or not". she's gonna get a clip of you and see what she see's.

If she sees confidence (not cockyness), humour, class, etc etc, she will find you attractive. your physical appearance will seem better because of how you compliment it as a person. Not to say that physical doesn't matter, it definatly does. but its not as important as you would think.

As a guy, ask yourself, do you only want a HOT girl, or do you want a fun, nice, etc girl who's nice looking. well, if you don't mind a "nice looking" girl, why would a girl mind a "nice looking" guy???

this is assuming she's not shallow. shallow girls, or immature girls who want gangsta's or something will only go for what their see on the surface. these ones often (but definatly not always) come on to guys rather than becoming open to an approach.

oh, and a word of advice, when a girl try's to pick YOU up with a line like, "hey sexy"... RUN!!!!!!!!!

[Homo_Erectus]

no matter what ya'll say, a girl aint gonna see a picture of you and see "hot or not". she's gonna get a clip of you and see what she see's.

If she sees confidence (not cockyness), humour, class, etc etc, she will find you attractive. your physical appearance will seem better because of how you compliment it as a person. Not to say that physical doesn't matter, it definatly does. but its not as important as you would think.

As a guy, ask yourself, do you only want a HOT girl, or do you want a fun, nice, etc girl who's nice looking. well, if you don't mind a "nice looking" girl, why would a girl mind a "nice looking" guy???

this is assuming she's not shallow. shallow girls, or immature girls who want gangsta's or something will only go for what their see on the surface. these ones often (but definatly not always) come on to guys rather than becoming open to an approach.

oh, and a word of advice, when a girl try's to pick YOU up with a line like, "hey sexy"... RUN!!!!!!!!!

Seems like by my general observations, but the shallow girls are out and about more than the nice/open minded/down to earth girls. I see many many pretty girls with those thug posers acting all macho on friday nights at Silvercity Yorkdale and stuff.
Or how about the pretty WOMEN who date the guy with the expensive car, jewellry, and has a nice credit card? lol. And lets not forget those girls/women who feel the need to be in groups in a mall or the streets and yell out "EWWWWWWWWW!" everytime they pass someone they are not in physical agreement with; they don't want to be discreet about it but MUST MAKE IT KNOWN TO THE WORLD THEIR DISTASTE.

But seriously, in regards to Image Consultants, I read on a website that the first thing a woman (shallow OR down to earth) looks at in a man is= his shoes! They don't know why but, thats the first place a woman's eye's wonders b4 moving upwards towards his face.
So if you are wearing really really dirty/busted up shoes= your chances are slim to none in impressing her.
Also they say your shoe colour should match your belt colour, again they just don't know why but its a rule somehow.

[Homo_Erectus]

That's the point of view from my "white" GF.

And attractiveness doesn't all center around the physical like you think it does. Attractiveness can also include personality, sence of humor, etc. Obviosly a meaningful relationship will not last based on phyiscal attraction alone.

But I agree with her when she says that the physical aspect is usually what most people look for first, before even getting to know the person. Its what initially attracted me to my GF, and visa versa..

Yes BUT, the physical aspect is the first thing a woman/man will judge a potential (unpotential) mate on.

Think about it, if a guy who dressed like Michael Jackson, had Michael Jackson's face (after all the surgery), and walked/acted like Mj

Vs

A guy who dresses very very neat, has a face like Brad Pitt or one of those Hollywood guys, and had an upright/positive/correct posture........



Who do you think the women would look at and feel more attracted to based on the physical aspect?
Now mind you , the dude who looks like Mj can be the sweetest/kindest person in the world who would never hurt a fly but, his looks say otherwise. He might come off as a creep or something. On the other hand, the Brad Pitt look-a-like could be a serial killer w/the looks and charm to pull it off. Yet, women would probably give him a chance to a date simply cuz he is handsome.

I agree with you in part on the whole personality/humour/generosity/etc as being also very important in a RELATIONSHIP and that it is true how physical attraction alone cannot carry a long term relationship forever.
However, the problem I see is that a lot of average/normal looking guys don't get the CHANCE to show these traits to a woman IN A RELATIONSHIP because, she did not give him the opportunity to go beyond the physical aspects and even get into the first stages OF a relationship. I really really believe this is a problem a lot of normal/average looking guys face, whether they realize it or not.

[caliente]

I agree with you in part on the whole personality/humour/generosity/etc as being also very important in a RELATIONSHIP and that it is true how physical attraction alone cannot carry a long term relationship forever.
However, the problem I see is that a lot of average/normal looking guys don't get the CHANCE to show these traits to a woman IN A RELATIONSHIP because, she did not give him the opportunity to go beyond the physical aspects and even get into the first stages OF a relationship. I really really believe this is a problem a lot of normal/average looking guys face, whether they realize it or not.

But why should I give each guy a fair and equal chance? I am not an elementary school teachers who tries to ensure fairness. I have stuff to do - my life DOES NOT consist of running lengthy auditions for "nice" guys. Therefore, initial attraction can sometimes play a bigger influence than is "fair". And by initial attraction, I DO NOT mean just the physical. Trust me when I say that some women greatly value wit, intelligence, confidence (not cockiness), and guys who are articulate. And all these things can come across very quickly, although not always judged correctly. Basically, it means a guy has gotten my interest and I want to get to know him more. So yes, sometimes I will be more attracted to some guys than others after a brief introduction.

A lot of guys approach girls with a blatant I-want-to-get-to-know-you-because-I-want-to-date/sleep-with-you attitude. And you know what? I'm going to judge you based on that. You are asking me to judge you as date material right now, so I will. Some of you will get the figurative thumbs up, most of you will not. I have many girl and guy friends. I'm not going to waste time going out with "nice" guys who I'm apathetic about.

You (or your brother) say you want to be "friends" with these girls, but we all know "friends" is a euphemism more often than not. Ask yourself, why do you want to be "friends" with these specific girls who have been less than friendly with you? In my experience, the asian guys with white gfs have white friends in general. People tend to be friends with, and date, the same type of people.

Life is not fair. And in dating, I don't think we are even obliged to give people a fair chance frankly.

[Anessa]

Women in general like tall, good-looking, muscular (toned) men with great personalities and social success.

Having said that, the media stereotype from down south has a huge influence. In Canada and the US, we are all brainwashed. Go to a bookstore, and find out the first thing a teenage girl pulls out...it's a teen magazine. Turn on the TV and see who is the next bachelor, some white dude.

I realize that some people blow it out of proportion, but it does play a role. To just write off this type of discussion as favorite terms that are commonly used such as "insecurity" or "just suck it up" mean that people acknowledge this is happening.

Having said that, I have noticed that European, Hispanic and Quebec French girls tend to date Asian guys more. I have seen some serious white hotties with average Asian guys. I think it's because they got their own unique culture, whereas in Canada we are a country of passivity, whatever the US feeds us we will eat.

But with white girls, they also do tend to age very quickly, so I guess you could look on the bright side :) They are nice to date etc. when they're young. But if you are considering marrying one for her looks, think hard for long term. I have seen white girls go down in their looks, as quick as the drop of a coin. Eg. Look at Ali Larter, compared to 10 years ago when she was a serious hottie. Now, she smiles and you can find 3 sets of wrinkles on either side of her lips. Makes her look so old. She's only 30 years old!!! What will she look like at age 35?? I guess the world was created equal?

http://dvdtoile.com/ARTISTES/1/1356.jpg

I remember seeing a wrinkly middle-aged woman I know and being astounded at her hot daughter, but then picturing her hot daughter morphing into her in 10 years...[shudder]

I find it interesting though, that even though Black girls are left out of the "sexy girl" image in Hollywood, they don't express much interest in males of other races.

I think it's a combination of genetic, lifestyle/diet and culture for why white women tend to age more quickly. Some Mediterranean (eg. Spanish, Greek, Italian) women are very deceptive looking (age wise).

[BlueMax]

I still don't agree about the "caucasians age more quickly" arguement.
Maybe it's because many asian girls look about 11 years old until they're 40 then all of a sudden become ancient. :)

[konfusion666]

Maybe it's because many asian girls look about 11 years onld until they're 40 then all of a sudden become ancient. :)

Bahahahaha... OUCH... but true! :twisted:

[BlueMax]

Funny how the topic is about "white girls I can date" and "Britney Spears" somehow comes up. ;) ;) ;)

[ShaTR]

Seems like by my general observations, but the shallow girls are out and about more than the nice/open minded/down to earth girls. I see many many pretty girls with those thug posers acting all macho on friday nights at Silvercity Yorkdale and stuff.
Or how about the pretty WOMEN who date the guy with the expensive car, jewellry, and has a nice credit card? lol. And lets not forget those girls/women who feel the need to be in groups in a mall or the streets and yell out "EWWWWWWWWW!" everytime they pass someone they are not in physical agreement with; they don't want to be discreet about it but MUST MAKE IT KNOWN TO THE WORLD THEIR DISTASTE.

But seriously, in regards to Image Consultants, I read on a website that the first thing a woman (shallow OR down to earth) looks at in a man is= his shoes! They don't know why but, thats the first place a woman's eye's wonders b4 moving upwards towards his face.
So if you are wearing really really dirty/busted up shoes= your chances are slim to none in impressing her.
Also they say your shoe colour should match your belt colour, again they just don't know why but its a rule somehow.

um.... seems like your chasing little girls. but i guess thats the age your at. how old are you???? (don't worry, it gets easier as you get older)

[astraea]

I still don't agree about the "caucasians age more quickly" arguement.
Maybe it's because many asian girls look about 11 years old until they're 40 then all of a sudden become ancient. :)

Dangg!
Now that I think about it, this is quite true.
Well then,
I better cherish my "11 years old" phase before I turn "ancient". :D

[UrbanPoet]

I was reading this white girl's description of her blind date
with a good-looking white guy who drove a fancy car.

The date was a disaster. She didn't like the (lame and stupid) things that he was saying to her.
She didn't like the way he kissed her. She never wanted to see him again.

People reading about her date were laughing at the guy.

See- she rejected a good-looking white guy with a fancy car
just because she was turned off by his personality and bad kissing.

You guys seem to think that just because a guy is white and goodlooking-
he will automatically get the girl. No.

A desperate girl might be willing to go out with him.

So you should pursue desperate girls.

Or go find a girl in Vietnam or Philippines
or go to church / temple / culture group = best place to meet a woman.

the girlz at the club might be too cool for you.

:idea:

so Kafanne. Do you draw these observations from your own dating experience?

[konfusion666]

Funny how the topic is about "white girls I can date" and "Britney Spears" somehow comes up. ;) ;) ;)

No, what's funny is how nobody has yet said "This topic is useless without pics!"

There. I said it.

[KevC]

I still don't agree about the "caucasians age more quickly" arguement.
Maybe it's because many asian girls look about 11 years old until they're 40 then all of a sudden become ancient. :)

I think Asian girls look great, and THEIR AGE...

Diet is a crazy factor in North America. We've got hormones injected into every food we eat, no wonder we have 6ft tall, 250lb 14 year old quarterbacks and 12 year old girls that are bustier than many 25 year olds I know....

It's sad but true.

Funny though, I know what you mean.... Asians look great till they hit some age and we look ancient. :(

[BlueMax]

Diet is a crazy factor in North America. We've got hormones injected into every food we eat, no wonder we have 6ft tall, 250lb 14 year old quarterbacks and 12 year old girls that are bustier than many 25 year olds I know....

Total agreement.

[YnD]

Caucasiangirls born in all white places like Thunder Bay Ontario or out of the city are the ones that stick with their own race.

Caucasian girls in Toronto find other races "exotic" therefore opposing your argument (assuming they can at least communicate with them).

Lower class/trashy caucasian girls... from what I see on the bus/subway etc... are the ones that I see dating black dudes. Half the time they are pregnant too.

In terms of caucasian girls dating asian guys, its more common these days. From what I've seen they're usually they are Canadian Born Chinese or mixed. But obviously not as common as the white/black guy fetish with asian girls.

[V A N Q U I S H]

Lower class/tashy caucasian girls... from what I see on the bus/subway etc... are the ones that I see dating black dudes. Half the time they are pregnant too.




Got it right on the dot there lol. BTW Hi RedFlagDeals!

[Sonbuster]

why can't asian girls be as loyal as these white girls?

[UrbanPoet]

why can't asian girls be as loyal as these white girls?

its b/c alot of asian brotha's out there cant stop being nerds...

[Homo_Erectus]

um.... seems like your chasing little girls. but i guess thats the age your at. how old are you???? (don't worry, it gets easier as you get older)

I'm 7 years old in this dimension. However, in the other dimension I am 909 years old.

Envision which version of me is sexier, and you will still come out sick and twisted :twisted:

[konfusion666]

i smell a deleted post...

[stealth]

You know that commercial was only to rub in the unsexiness of brown guys right?
I find that commercial kinda insulting in a way that they tried to pick the person that you think is the least unattractive... Then something uncharacteristic happens... girls throw thongs @ him like a rock star.

Aside from personal attributes, The media portrayal of minorities does shape public perception of minorities.

Whenever i "blame" the media i dont do it in a sense that the MEdia is @ fault for how Asian ppl act. But rather it does a great deal in shaping peoples perception of Minorities.

Example.
On the news every day you hear about black people shooting, robbing, stealing, killing etc.... People have this perception that 'all black people are bad' even if they are well educated/well rounded people.

average asian ! :O
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2jMLqd9-C0A

Bad example. The problem is even when blacks are successful, well educated, etc. they choose to identify themselves with thug culture by putting on dew rags, gangsta clothing, and talking in whatever dialect of ebonics is in vogue on MTV. Act like a criminal, and you'll get treated like a criminal.
Its no different than if I'm a middle aged white guy who makes a lot of money maybe as a lawyer for instance, but on weekends I put on a headband and leather jacket with Hells Angels colours on them and go riding my $30k Harley. People will think I'm a gang member as well.

Prejudice isnt exclusive to visible minorities folks.

I grew up in a privileged environment, had a new sports car when I was at the end of high school/early university, but listened to heavy metal and dressed like it as well as having hair past my shoulders. If you knew how many times I got pulled over by cops for no reason, you wouldnt think profiling happened just because of the color of your skin.

As for the topic at hand, I'm white but havent dated any women of colour. I see many very attractive asians, but for the most part they never gave me the time of day and always acted pretty stuck up. Black girls never showed any interest either, and I was fine with that because I'm only attracted to the lighter featured ones i.e. Beyonce, Janet Jackson, etc....and they seem to be really rare in the GTA. Serena Williams types dont do it for me at all. Same applies to south east asian features.

The other thing is, its not all about looks when it comes to dating preferences. Women are smart. They know that when dating outside your own race, things *can* get complicated in terms of religion, family values, culture, holidays, racist beliefs within immediate family on either side, etc...Might not be worth the trouble for some.

[Homo_Erectus]

Bad example. The problem is even when blacks are successful, well educated, etc. they choose to identify themselves with thug culture by putting on dew rags, gangsta clothing, and talking in whatever dialect of ebonics is in vogue on MTV. Act like a criminal, and you'll get treated like a criminal.
Its no different than if I'm a middle aged white guy who makes a lot of money maybe as a lawyer for instance, but on weekends I put on a headband and leather jacket with Hells Angels colours on them and go riding my $30k Harley. People will think I'm a gang member as well.

Prejudice isnt exclusive to visible minorities folks.

I grew up in a privileged environment, had a new sports car when I was at the end of high school/early university, but listened to heavy metal and dressed like it as well as having hair past my shoulders. If you knew how many times I got pulled over by cops for no reason, you wouldnt think profiling happened just because of the color of your skin.

As for the topic at hand, I'm white but havent dated any women of colour. I see many very attractive asians, but for the most part they never gave me the time of day and always acted pretty stuck up. Black girls never showed any interest either, and I was fine with that because I'm only attracted to the lighter featured ones i.e. Beyonce, Janet Jackson, etc....and they seem to be really rare in the GTA. Serena Williams types dont do it for me at all. Same applies to south east asian features.

The other thing is, its not all about looks when it comes to dating preferences. Women are smart. They know that when dating outside your own race, things *can* get complicated in terms of religion, family values, culture, holidays, racist beliefs within immediate family on either side, etc...Might not be worth the trouble for some.

WAIT WAIT WAIT! So if I put on an Armani suit I am a criminal too right? I am positive John Gotti dressed very well when making his public appearances.

Or how about me dressing super casual and being clean shaven. Does that make me a terror suspect? Cuz I am sure many of the suspects in the 9/11 incidents didn't wear gold chains, hoodies and baggy jeans. And I am sure they did not start yelling out the latest Hip Hop lyrics before crashing into buildings lol.

Mind you, we can also go back a couple of decades and you will see Al Capone dressing up very business like yet, see how many people he had ordered killed in his crime days ;)


Come on man, criminals come in all shapes and sizes. Not just oversized denim and hoodies lmfao.

And I personally find your observations on Black women in Toronto a bit generalized.
1st of all, there are many many many light skinned Black women in Toronto; Blasians, Mullato's, multi-mixes, etc etc. I see many pretty ones (and just cuz they don't resemble Beyonce doesn't mean they don't have their own good features). Don't believe me? Go to your local malls, go to the downtown core, go to the local college campuses man! They are around!

2nd of all, just because a woman is of darker complexion doesn't mean she will look like Serena Williams. Many can have nice facial features, nice curves, bossums, etc etc. Just because the skin tone is a bit darker doesn't take away from her beauty.

Geesh. Anyways feeling sleepy now. Talk to you soon tee hee.

[BlueMax]

Um.... I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet.....


There have been studies... *cough*

I was about to put in a bunch of links but because of the rule of NO ADULT MATERIAL which this comes rather borderline to, I'll "abstain". ;)


...but... there's quite a bit of evidence supporting.... differences... between races.... *cough* ... that don't favour the Asian man. (In the respect I'm alluding to anyways - they have other advantages.)


That said, the average differences are not huge.... but noticable.

As many studies as there may have been, it's still inconclusive.... but it could be one of those stereotypes that need to be either admitted to, or debunked... depending on where you measure up. *cough*


Any mature person will admit that it's not that big a deal in a SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP, but it's one of those potential factors in a relationship starting at all.


Maybe that's why you see white women going after black men, and white men going after asian women..... I've not been so.... "travelled" thank goodness, but I've heard..... stories.... from those who know all too well. (I wonder if they've had that nasty ailment cured yet... tsk, tsk.)





Whew.... Hopefully any 10-year olds gave up on that one, and anyone in their teenage years will think anything has sexual innuendo anyways, so I should be in the clear. ;)

[ronin893]

Therefore, initial attraction can sometimes play a bigger influence than is "fair". And by initial attraction, I DO NOT mean just the physical. Trust me when I say that some women greatly value wit, intelligence, confidence (not cockiness), and guys who are articulate. Finally, at post #58, someone mentioned intelligence, and it was a woman who said it. :)

For whatever it's worth, I once asked my wife what attracted her to me. The first two responses were intelligence and sense of humour. So there you have a statistical point to add to the data. I'm not going to add any further comment lest I perpetuate another stereotype.

[stealth]

WAIT WAIT WAIT! So if I put on an Armani suit I am a criminal too right? I am positive John Gotti dressed very well when making his public appearances.

Mind you, we can also go back a couple of decades and you will see Al Capone dressing up very business like yet, see how many people he had ordered killed in his crime days ;)

Come on man, criminals come in all shapes and sizes. Not just oversized denim and hoodies lmfao.

Geesh. Anyways feeling sleepy now. Talk to you soon tee hee.

Lol...a couple decades???
Anyways, you're proving my point for me. Capone and many other gangsters were actually quite popular with many in their day. And they chose to dress in business suits for a good reason...To blend in with legitimate business people so as to not immediately be thought of a criminals. It was camoflage. It worked then, and it works now.
But camoflage works both ways. You can be a crook in a business suit and camoflage with legitimate people, or you can put on a deer suit and go out into the forest in hunting season and get innocently shot. Because whether or not a stereotype is accurate is in a way, irrelevant. False perceptions can evoke a strong emotional response, subconsciously, we all do it. I personally get the same gut reaction from seeing someone dressed in a way that glorifies the "thug life" even if they themselves are not actually thugs , the same way I'd get a reaction seeing someone with a swastika tatoo on their forehead, even if they were not around during WW2 to have committed Nazi atrocities. It embraces a vile and disgusting life and idolizes people who shouldnt be idolized.
Why not wear a mask into a bank? Does it make you a bank robber? Of course not. But post back and tell us what happens.:D

Or how about me dressing super casual and being clean shaven. Does that make me a terror suspect? Cuz I am sure many of the suspects in the 9/11 incidents didn't wear gold chains, hoodies and baggy jeans. And I am sure they did not start yelling out the latest Hip Hop lyrics before crashing into buildings lol.

I have no idea what your point is with this...Hip hop terrorists? Get some sleep and come back coherent. This is getting way off topic anyway.

And I personally find your observations on Black women in Toronto a bit generalized.
1st of all, there are many many many light skinned Black women in Toronto; Blasians, Mullato's, multi-mixes, etc etc. I see many pretty ones (and just cuz they don't resemble Beyonce doesn't mean they don't have their own good features). Don't believe me? Go to your local malls, go to the downtown core, go to the local college campuses man! They are around!

Sorry, I call 'em as I see 'em. :D

2nd of all, just because a woman is of darker complexion doesn't mean she will look like Serena Williams. Many can have nice facial features, nice curves, bossums, etc etc. Just because the skin tone is a bit darker doesn't take away from her beauty.

Reread my post if you want, I said my preferences were based on FEATURES not just darkness.

[YnD]

Hah... you gotta admit this..

In terms of black girls... the caramel/light colour ones are the hot ones..

i.e Rheanna, Beyonce, Tyra Banks, Christina Milian... the list goes on.

Your referring to these girls right? . Now, The even darker chicks... I cant even name one good looking one. Not One. But SOME do exist around Ill admit.

Also, you cant just use the muslim dress atire to represent a terrorist etc. Its not the same as pop culture and how bad the area you live in.

Gangster rap (i.e 50 cent) and Poverty = Bad environment to grow up = Gangs = Crime

For example, if you go to Scarborough, and your walking down the street near Scarbororough Town Centre, and a few dudes in Durags and Hoodies are ahead of you coming your way. Your saying your warning lights wouldn't come on?

Bandanas cannot be compared to Armani suits. Only punks wear bandanas.
You can get a job with an Armani suit, can the same be said for a durag/bandanda? I thought so.

WAIT WAIT WAIT! So if I put on an Armani suit I am a criminal too right? I am positive John Gotti dressed very well when making his public appearances.

Or how about me dressing super casual and being clean shaven. Does that make me a terror suspect? Cuz I am sure many of the suspects in the 9/11 incidents didn't wear gold chains, hoodies and baggy jeans. And I am sure they did not start yelling out the latest Hip Hop lyrics before crashing into buildings lol.

Mind you, we can also go back a couple of decades and you will see Al Capone dressing up very business like yet, see how many people he had ordered killed in his crime days ;)


Come on man, criminals come in all shapes and sizes. Not just oversized denim and hoodies lmfao.

And I personally find your observations on Black women in Toronto a bit generalized.
1st of all, there are many many many light skinned Black women in Toronto; Blasians, Mullato's, multi-mixes, etc etc. I see many pretty ones (and just cuz they don't resemble Beyonce doesn't mean they don't have their own good features). Don't believe me? Go to your local malls, go to the downtown core, go to the local college campuses man! They are around!

2nd of all, just because a woman is of darker complexion doesn't mean she will look like Serena Williams. Many can have nice facial features, nice curves, bossums, etc etc. Just because the skin tone is a bit darker doesn't take away from her beauty.

Geesh. Anyways feeling sleepy now. Talk to you soon tee hee.

[Homo_Erectus]

Hah... you gotta admit this..

In terms of black girls... the caramel/light colour ones are the hot ones..

i.e Rheanna, Beyonce, Tyra Banks, Christina Milian... the list goes on.

Your referring to these girls right? . Now, The even darker chicks... I cant even name one good looking one. Not One. But SOME do exist around Ill admit.

Also, you cant just use the muslim dress atire to represent a terrorist etc. Its not the same as pop culture and how bad the area you live in.

Gangster rap (i.e 50 cent) and Poverty = Bad environment to grow up = Gangs = Crime

For example, if you go to Scarborough, and your walking down the street near Scarbororough Town Centre, and a few dudes in Durags and Hoodies are ahead of you coming your way. Your saying your warning lights wouldn't come on?

Bandanas cannot be compared to Armani suits. Only punks wear bandanas.
You can get a job with an Armani suit, can the same be said for a durag/bandanda? I thought so.

I don't know. My dad served in the Vietnam war and he said many American soldiers wore bandannas.
Manny Pacquiao and some other boxer's have been known to wear bandannas. I guess these people are punks to you then... You DID say ANYONE who wears a bandanna is a punk...

And Beyonce and Tyra Banks are not the typical
"Black" looking girls around. They are glossed up and good looking by Hollywood standards. I personally find Black women at College and University a lot hotter in a natural looking type of way than MOST of those women on T.V
Amerie though is an exception. Amerie Rogers is Blasian. Just google image her. She and Rosario Dawson are some of the women I find attractive in the media.


And as for poverty and gangster rap? NO. I grew up in Toronto Housing all my life and never really saw too many people in the projects blasting gangster rap around. Even the drug dealers kept it low key and loved old school soul, reggae, dance, etc. gangster rap was mostly played by the middle class white kids at school. Very rarely did I see Black people in the projects listen to gangster rap. I lived in the Lawrence Heights community btw.

Finally, no if I saw a bunch of dudes in doorags and hoodies walking in my direction, I would not be in fear of my life. I will be aware of my surroundings just like I would be aware of ANY GROUP of people around me. Plus I would mind my manners and be respectful while passing ANYBODY. I grew up with folks who wore doorags and hoodies. However I am sure some older insecure White folks who have little exposure to Black people would be crossing the street, locking their car doors, losing counts of breath, etc etc.

Besides, I dated a Guyanese Black girl for up to 6 years and know her family. They are of upper middle class background. Her mom is a social worker, dad a pastor. Met their relatives, some wear baggy, some wear regular sized clothing. Non of them have a criminal record or do bad things. Most are either in University or working.

I am Asian and don't fear anyone, Black/White/Yellow/Brown/Red. I look at people as people. I don't view any specific group as super dooper drug dealing/strong arm vicious killers. No that classification can come from any ethnic group or culture.

If you want to stereotype based on clothing, would it be fair for me to judge all White guys as serial killers? Say, I point out how Paul Bernardo, Jeffry Dalmer, or Ted Bundy dressed and carried themselves. I am sure these guys dressed a lot more casual or professional than youth who dress baggy. But I ask you again, would it be fair for me to label every single White man who dresses casual or business like as a serial killer? I didn't think so.

[Homo_Erectus]

Lol you're so full of crap. Black people have conditioned themselves to be viewed the way they are and self inflict racism upon themselves. Im sure that there are alot of black people that dress thuggish but dont act it and even still I would feel intimidated if I were to walk past them. Im sure that alot of people on this forum would have their warning lights turned on if they saw a bunch of black guys walking towards them with xxl clothing and du-rags. Now If I saw a bunch of asian guys dressed in polo shirts and some nice fitting jeans, I wouldnt be afraid at all. I wouldn't "BE AWARE OF MY SURROUNDINGS LOL".

Youre telling me that every person you pass by youre afraid of?

No. NOT afraid. AWARE. I take Wing Chun and have a bit of knowledge of Filipino MA's. So I am AWARE OF ALL PEOPLE. I don't underestimate or discrimate anyone based on their appearance (whether they look meek or aggressive. Looks CAN be deceiving. A person who looks like he/she cannot harm you can actually be proven wrong. He/she may have a mental illness or emotional instability and end up stabbing you to death. Note some of them may not be obvious with their physical body language i.e body shakes/screaming/erratic motions. Some may be very silent about it. Nothing much you can really do sometimes in such circumstances)
My father like I said was in the South Vietnamese army as a military police officer so he has installed certain awareness principles in me too.
Also I take up Boxing. Though the sweet science is for more of 1 on 1 fist fights mostly. Not really made for the streets unless you can adapt it to your own flow/style.

[kirvydikk]

Hot sikh girls only date sikh guys
Host chinese girls date mostly chinese guys
Sop picking on whites
You are being racist

[ladybug193]

Um.... I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet.....


There have been studies... *cough*

I was about to put in a bunch of links but because of the rule of NO ADULT MATERIAL which this comes rather borderline to, I'll "abstain". ;)


...but... there's quite a bit of evidence supporting.... differences... between races.... *cough* ... that don't favour the Asian man. (In the respect I'm alluding to anyways - they have other advantages.)


That said, the average differences are not huge.... but noticable.

As many studies as there may have been, it's still inconclusive.... but it could be one of those stereotypes that need to be either admitted to, or debunked... depending on where you measure up. *cough*


Any mature person will admit that it's not that big a deal in a SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP, but it's one of those potential factors in a relationship starting at all.


Maybe that's why you see white women going after black men, and white men going after asian women..... I've not been so.... "travelled" thank goodness, but I've heard..... stories.... from those who know all too well. (I wonder if they've had that nasty ailment cured yet... tsk, tsk.)





Whew.... Hopefully any 10-year olds gave up on that one, and anyone in their teenage years will think anything has sexual innuendo anyways, so I should be in the clear. ;)

LMAO...very clever:lol: :lol: :lol:

[abu_sme]

Haven't you ever heard a hot white girl called "black kryptonite"

[pothia]

Let me enlighten you all.

In North America, you WILL get white chicks if you're white-washed enough. The percentage is 0.05% otherwise.

When you're white-washed, you are more likely to engage in similar activities and be genuinely interested on certain topics with the white chicks.

Don't mean to sound racist but that's utterly true.

And it's all about communication between two people.



At least my opinion is valid for University of Western Ontario.

[jayk]

Let me enlighten you all.

In North America, you WILL get white chicks if you're white-washed enough. The percentage is 0.05% otherwise.

When you're white-washed, you are more likely to engage in similar activities and be genuinely interested on certain topics with the white chicks.

Don't mean to sound racist but that's utterly true.

And it's all about communication between two people.



At least my opinion is valid for University of Western Ontario.

For foreign born Asians, I'd tend to agree with that. It does happen that Asian immigrants hook up with white girls here, but it's a lot more common in Europe and Quebec since girls there are more open to and interested in other cultures. In fact, I would tend to say that Asian guys probably have the same or better chance with Euro or French girls.

[Spike]

Lower class/trashy caucasian girls... from what I see on the bus/subway etc... are the ones that I see dating black dudes. Half the time they are pregnant too.

My name is Sal Governale... :D

[ZenOps]

In my experience French girls do seem to like Asian guys, I'm not sure why.

None of the other Euros seem to stand out as much.

[pothia]

For foreign born Asians, I'd tend to agree with that. It does happen that Asian immigrants hook up with white girls here, but it's a lot more common in Europe and Quebec since girls there are more open to and interested in other cultures. In fact, I would tend to say that Asian guys probably have the same or better chance with Euro or French girls.

Sooooo true. For some reasons girls here in North America just aren't that willing to learn things from a new culture. They just don't bother. Many of my white friends don't even have ONE asian friend who is able to cover both sides except me. And I consider myself semi white-washed.

[setell]

Dating is not just about race. I'm not sure why there seem to be such hatred or stereotypes that white girls prefer white guys and that Asian girls don't just stick to Asian guys. Have any of you guys thought that it's not just race that plays a big factor but culture as well. Seriously Asian guys have a lot against them vs. the white guys. A lot of stereotypes that just aren't in their favour. Like somebody said, there are a lot of white girls that just don't want a interracial relationship since it's a lot of work and headaches. They aren't just dating you but your culture as well.

[UrbanPoet]

Um.... I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet.....


There have been studies... *cough*

I was about to put in a bunch of links but because of the rule of NO ADULT MATERIAL which this comes rather borderline to, I'll "abstain". ;)


...but... there's quite a bit of evidence supporting.... differences... between races.... *cough* ... that don't favour the Asian man. (In the respect I'm alluding to anyways - they have other advantages.)


That said, the average differences are not huge.... but noticable.

As many studies as there may have been, it's still inconclusive.... but it could be one of those stereotypes that need to be either admitted to, or debunked... depending on where you measure up. *cough*


Any mature person will admit that it's not that big a deal in a SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP, but it's one of those potential factors in a relationship starting at all.


Maybe that's why you see white women going after black men, and white men going after asian women..... I've not been so.... "travelled" thank goodness, but I've heard..... stories.... from those who know all too well. (I wonder if they've had that nasty ailment cured yet... tsk, tsk.)





Whew.... Hopefully any 10-year olds gave up on that one, and anyone in their teenage years will think anything has sexual innuendo anyways, so I should be in the clear. ;)

Dating is not just about race. I'm not sure why there seem to be such hatred or stereotypes that white girls prefer white guys and that Asian girls don't just stick to Asian guys. Have any of you guys thought that it's not just race that plays a big factor but culture as well. Seriously Asian guys have a lot against them vs. the white guys. A lot of stereotypes that just aren't in their favour. Like somebody said, there are a lot of white girls that just don't want a interracial relationship since it's a lot of work and headaches. They aren't just dating you but your culture as well.

nothing has to do with race...
Just like how Aboriginals get the ****** end of the stick...
or how Jamal Crawford keeps getting pulled over for driving his benzo, even tho he owns his own grocery business...
Race definately has an influence in our day to day lives in MANY aspects including social relations, which even includes dating.

[batman321123]

I think homo_erectus is someone that got banned before. I think his name at that time was 'Truth'.

[batman321123]

Ha, looks like I'm not the only one who thinks homo_erectus is truth.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4509135&postcount=39

[YnD]

nothing has to do with race...
Just like how Aboriginals get the ****** end of the stick...
or how Jamal Crawford keeps getting pulled over for driving his benzo, even tho he owns his own grocery business...
Race definately has an influence in our day to day lives in MANY aspects including social relations, which even includes dating.


Correct. Nothing has to do with race. But its a very big influence in our lives. I mean think about it... the first thing you notice about someone is what sex they are... then comes race. No one will admit it in the open but everyone knows its true.

[YnD]

Ok it makes sense in your point of view. But in terms of the general population. The first thing you see in a person is SEX, then RACE.
No one will admit it, but its true. Society will always view things based on race.

FOr example...

"Go to Pacific Mall, its a chinese mall, everythings cheap:
"Dont go to Scarborough, You'll get shot"

Keep in mind my opinions are representative to the area as a whole. Not eveeryone takes WIng CHun and have a no fear attitude like you.

Remember when that girl on boxing day got shot? She as just a random pedestrian when those 2 black dudes were shooting at each other. She didn't have to know any self defense she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time (Even though it was in broad daylight and in a busy area)

I'm asian too...I took martial arts... but Im surprised your defending against how race is viewed in society. It will ALWAYS be like this. In toronto at least.





No. NOT afraid. AWARE. I take Wing Chun and have a bit of knowledge of Filipino MA's. So I am AWARE OF ALL PEOPLE. I don't underestimate or discrimate anyone based on their appearance (whether they look meek or aggressive. Looks CAN be deceiving. A person who looks like he/she cannot harm you can actually be proven wrong. He/she may have a mental illness or emotional instability and end up stabbing you to death. Note some of them may not be obvious with their physical body language i.e body shakes/screaming/erratic motions. Some may be very silent about it. Nothing much you can really do sometimes in such circumstances)
My father like I said was in the South Vietnamese army as a military police officer so he has installed certain awareness principles in me too.
Also I take up Boxing. Though the sweet science is for more of 1 on 1 fist fights mostly. Not really made for the streets unless you can adapt it to your own flow/style.

[God_Anubis]

I agree with you somewhat. Though I would have to say the hot women tend to want what they see in the movies and t.v sitcoms with Hollywood's perspective of what a good looking man should be. This means ALL women. I have seen White women, Black women, Brown Women, Asian women, etc lust over the "good looking" Hollywood White actors (and sometimes sexy Black male actors). Bradd Pitt, Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp, Denzel Washington, Usher (though not an actor per se), Jackie Chan-William Hung=NOT! lmfao.
You tend not to see TOO many "hot" Asian male actors being portrayed in many of those films/sitcoms.
Asians;
You usually see typically extra silent type, violent kung fu grip dude with no emotional depth (except for when he beats up a bunch of guys while the White lead character gets the woman lol), or the computer nerd with glasses who does all the work.

There ARE exceptions to the rule, like Harold and Kumar where the lead role was an Asian guy who ends up getting the girl at the end. Though this type of event for now is far and few (except in some kung fu movies, where every single Asian character male/female happens to be super ninja or kung fu master w/stereotypical Hong Kong broken English accents, the kung fu guy usually gets the kung fu Asian girl here...... that or he dies at the end and the girl cries over his dead body)

I honestly wish women in this world would just turn off their t.v sets for a day, or stop glorifying the movie macho hunks. And realize that their are the rest of us men out there, who do not jump out of buildings, be heroes and save a lady from a group of 20 heavily armed bad guys, or have 100% fine chisled "hollywood" looks. If the women can just observe us for us a bit long enough, they will realize us "regular dudes" have a lot to offer too. We show sensativity, senses of humours, and even weakness (things the media doesn't want to be shown in a man often times).

But all and all its true, feeling sorry for ourselves all the time and allowing the woman to feel superior to you would not help the situation out. You want to stand on equal grounds with her.
Once she see's you hang your head down low and slump in a corner, it would give her even more reason to see you as "not MAN enough for her". Even though we men feel depressed and upset sometimes, a woman is not supposed to see that right (I know its ridulous and all, pretending we men don't have weaknesses but...).
Sometimes I think some women just want to see a reaction by us guys when they reject us, to make themselves feel like higher being queens lol.
Why I don't know. But from my general observation, I notice when I over-reacted to women who rejected me in the past, I saw changes in their confidence levels. They acted like they were the TOP DOGS and that every GUY ON THE PLANET had the hots for them, and I was just another number they elimated from their list lol. "Play The Game" like Freddie Mercury sang once...

too long..zzzZZzz..

have you seen Harold and Kumar go to White Castle? (If I was a gal) I would date either one of those 2 studs any second. Their characters dispels the stereotypical roles of the silent nunchuck gripping Asian or the curry smelling, hairy Paki.

[kirvydikk]

Sooooo true. For some reasons girls here in North America just aren't that willing to learn things from a new culture. They just don't bother. Many of my white friends don't even have ONE asian friend who is able to cover both sides except me. And I consider myself semi white-washed.


I think the problem is that white girls might fear that Chinese boys will expect them to turn "Chinese". Soon it is Chinese this and Chinese that. This happens with many cultural groups - not just the Chinese. Race is not just about the physical but the cultural. Maybe people are turned off by the culture (polite way of saying they are turned off by the personality or the person)

[God_Anubis]

At my gym, there are these 2 Chinese twins, they look in good shape. Every 2-3 months I see them with a different woman....at least one of them. The irony is that most of the women are non-Chinese. As a matter of fact one of them has confessed to me that they find Asian women unattractive.

What turns off most white women is the scrawny, pasty looking dude, with toothpick arms, bad hair, who watches Inuisha episodes and stays home on weekends playing warcraft.

I'm not saying that most Chinese guys fall into this category, but I can partly understand why most have a hard time dating a white women.

[jayk]

But interesting thing is that you see scrawny white dudes with cute white girls, or fat white guys with cute white girls too.

Doesn't seem to work with Asian guys in the same way. If you're an Asian guy and you prefer hot white girls, then you gotta work harder to get the same thing. I guess it's good to get motivated to better yourself sometimes, despite it being harder for you.

That's just the way the world works. If Asia were filthy rich, and Europe and North America were poorer nations, it'd work the same way. Asian guys would probably have it better than white guys.

The world turns, and if the planets lasts long enough to withstand all the environmental destruction most of us are guilty of, then we will likely see new world orders developing.

[ShaTR]

I hear asians always talkin bout "asian pride" and blah blah blah, but seriously, ya'll seem to be a very insecure bunch. just an obvservation, may not be true at all, but its what I am seeing lately.

basically, what im saying, is QUIT YOUR WHINING

[john widow]

Yeah! WHAT THE HELL IS WITH "AZN PRIDE"! Sooooo old. I haven't heard that for ages.

[konfusion666]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/sportypinai9/azn.jpg

[Nyte]

What turns off most white women is the scrawny, pasty looking dude, with toothpick arms, bad hair, who watches Inuisha episodes and stays home on weekends playing warcraft.


Thats sorta genetic. The majority of us just tend to have smaller frames than white guys. There are the things you can work on like biceps, but something like skinny wrists for example, not too much you can do about that.

[danfromwaterloo]

Genetically, we are all inclined to find our own culture/race more desirable than others. We are supposed to perpetuate our own genes by those we subconsciously find superior to our own. Our natural tendancy will be to find genes of our own race.

They did studies with dogs that follow the same pattern: a male was placed in a room with 6 females in heat - one of the same breed - and left alone. The scientists noticed that more often than not, the dog would pick the dog of the same breed.

If I were single, I wouldn't date asian, indian, or black women because I do not find them physically attractive - except in rare circumstances (ie. models and actresses). I don't consider this racism, as you can't help what appeals to you. Your tastes are your tastes, and you can't ignore them.

[Kohanz]

Genetically, we are all inclined to find our own culture/race more desirable than others. We are supposed to perpetuate our own genes by those we subconsciously find superior to our own. Our natural tendancy will be to find genes of our own race.

They did studies with dogs that follow the same pattern: a male was placed in a room with 6 females in heat - one of the same breed - and left alone. The scientists noticed that more often than not, the dog would pick the dog of the same breed.

If I were single, I wouldn't date asian, indian, or black women because I do not find them physically attractive - except in rare circumstances (ie. models and actresses). I don't consider this racism, as you can't help what appeals to you. Your tastes are your tastes, and you can't ignore them.

Although I haven't read enough to agree or disagree with your overall argument, using a behavioural study of dogs to extrapolate to humans is pretty weak and easily dismissed IMHO.

[V A N Q U I S H]

Although I haven't read enough to agree or disagree with your overall argument, using a behavioural study of dogs to extrapolate to humans is pretty weak and easily dismissed IMHO.

Yeah I don't agree with the study thing danfromwaterloo is talking about, but this is spot on:

If I were single, I wouldn't date asian, indian, or black women because I do not find them physically attractive - except in rare circumstances (ie. models and actresses). I don't consider this racism, as you can't help what appeals to you. Your tastes are your tastes, and you can't ignore them.

[Kohanz]

I think I agree with the sentiment that people will generally find some races more attractive than others, but I disagree that this is completely a genetic thing.

I feel that it comes more from how a person identifies themselves at a certain point in their life. At first, you will likely grow up attracted to your own race, because that is who you initially identify with the most, and this may always stay the same if you always identify yourself strongly with your own race. However, if your circumstances change (you move to another country/culture, you have a change of identity in some other ways), you may find that your tastes change along with you. I think this supports the evidence out there that in countries that are more multicultural (i.e. Canada), you see more interracial relationships, because the more the society mixes, the less strongly people identify with their own specific race.

[konfusion666]

I don't consider this racism, as you can't help what appeals to you. Your tastes are your tastes, and you can't ignore them.

This is true... but what's also true is that historically there has always been a lot of mixing between certain ethnic groups, especially when "religion" or "culture/traditions" isn't around to be used as an artificial barrier against that sort of mixing.

In fact, I think it's been shown (perhaps using genetics or anthropology) that certain modern day ethnic groups were essentially formed by the inter-mixing of two previously disparate ethnic groups... i.e. there is no such thing as racial purity.

[UrbanPoet]

This is true... but what's also true is that historically there has always been a lot of mixing between ethnic groups, especially when "religion" or "culture/traditions" isn't around to be used as an artificial barrier against that sort of mixing.

or how about colonial conquest?
Rape and "intermixing" has always been the best tool for conqueing a society.
Colonial societies used this as a tool to get deep into a region and instill their values, beliefs, and livelihood on others.

Example. Romans loved to instill their culture and people in other regions.
-The mongolians made sure they banged as many Middle eastern girls as they could when they took over regions in the middle east (now known as afghanistan) and kazikstan's.

[konfusion666]

or how about colonial conquest?
Rape and "intermixing" has always been the best tool for conqueing a society.
Colonial societies used this as a tool to get deep into a region and instill their values, beliefs, and livelihood on others.

Example. Romans loved to instill their culture and people in other regions.
-The mongolians made sure they banged as many Middle eastern girls as they could when they took over regions in the middle east (now known as afghanistan) and kazikstan's.

I would actually disagree with you on the Roman example to a certain extent. During some of Rome's "periods" it was actually a fairly multicultural state even by modern day standards. That sounds a bit odd though... certainly it was no Canada, but let's say... somewhere between the Western world and many non-Western countries (like those in the M.E.).

Also, the pre-Christian Roman Empire allowed for "freedom of religion" (keep in mind that most religions back then were polytheistic except for Judaism). Which is something that you don't even get everywhere in the world today.

[UrbanPoet]

I would actually disagree with you on the Roman example to a certain extent. During some of Rome's "periods" it was actually a fairly multicultural state even by modern day standards. That sounds a bit odd though... certainly it was no Canada, but let's say... somewhere between the Western world and many non-Western countries (like those in the M.E.).

Also, the pre-Christian Roman Empire allowed for "freedom of religion" (keep in mind that most religions back then were polytheistic except for Judaism). Which is something that you don't even get everywhere in the world today.

I was talking about Colonial Roman Empire when they just started taking **** over!
They would do alot... They wouldnt exactly rape and pillage like the mongolians. But they did so to a certain extend. They tried to instill their culture by building theaters, collisium style buildings, and aqueducts (a very impressive piece of Roman Technology during the time) in the regions that they took over. That way there was a lil piece of Roman everywhere for them to be remembered by.

[danfromwaterloo]

Although I haven't read enough to agree or disagree with your overall argument, using a behavioural study of dogs to extrapolate to humans is pretty weak and easily dismissed IMHO.

Yeah I don't agree with the study thing danfromwaterloo is talking about, but this is spot on:

This is true... but what's also true is that historically there has always been a lot of mixing between certain ethnic groups, especially when "religion" or "culture/traditions" isn't around to be used as an artificial barrier against that sort of mixing.

In fact, I think it's been shown (perhaps using genetics or anthropology) that certain modern day ethnic groups were essentially formed by the inter-mixing of two previously disparate ethnic groups... i.e. there is no such thing as racial purity.

While I'm not inclined to believe everything I've read in a Psychology 101 textbook, here's my thoughts on that dog experiment:

How do we come to acquire tastes? How do we make a value judgement that says that X is beautiful and Y is not? It is unquestionable that portions of what we deem beautiful is cultural. Skinny, blonde, etc. These are judgements that differ from culture to culture. But what is it about humanity that tends to keep our tastes ethnocentric? Maybe its not beauty that is genetic, but maybe those elements that we deem unattractive that are.

So, we might say that blondes are hotter than brunettes because our society enjoys them more. But we might (speaking as a white guy) say that we're not attracted to black people because of a genetic preference for white people?

Nature vs. nurture.

[lost~user]

I have a chinese guy friend that had no problems attracting and getting white girls. Yes, he is buff, a total gentleman and knows how to spoil a girl. Could those be the reasons? After dating a large number of white girls, he is now holding steady with a Taiwanese girl.

Hey, do I know you?? That's me! I know it... it has to be... :razz:

No, I've been friends with people fine, no problem. But once I find out that they "like" me, it's hard to shake off that gross feeling. You know, like you want to take a shower or something. You will always wonder if they are undressing you with their eyes or something.

Yea, it happens quite a bit. I hear it from alot of girl friends, girl friends not girlsfriend. The girl automatically seems to put up a wall against the guy even if the guy is very nice, and ideal for the girl. So really, guys... we need to hide how we fell, and just play a game of hot and cold. BUT in terms of the "undressing you with their eyes or something" statement.. that only happens in the clubs... not that you really wanted to know.. just wanted to come right out there and say it...

its b/c alot of asian brotha's out there cant stop being nerds...

+1 that's hillarious... my gf knew that I was a nerd before going out with me, so it's all good.

[God_Anubis]

Yea, it happens quite a bit. I hear it from alot of girl friends, girl friends not girlsfriend. The girl automatically seems to put up a wall against the guy even if the guy is very nice, and ideal for the girl. So really, guys... we need to hide how we fell, and just play a game of hot and cold. BUT in terms of the "undressing you with their eyes or something" statement.. that only happens in the clubs... not that you really wanted to know.. just wanted to come right out there and say it...

That's balony! Many young women irregardless of race, CRAVE FOR ATTENTION. They try as hard as they can to be a little tease. You can tell from their attire, behaviour, personality. (I especially can't stand the ones wearing fake Chanel 5 perfume...why else would they wear it?). Just when they've received the attention they need, they pretend they're insulted. And when you don't give them the attention, they get equally insulted.

From my own personal experience, when I'm working out at the gym, some girl starts doing her workout routine right adjacent or in front of me, even though the gym is empty and should could have used any of the 10 benches. The fact that she's wearing super tight tights and a tight shirt makes it even more obvious. I imagine she finally gets the clue I don't have the slightest interest in her because I don't glance at her even once.

I'm not insinuating that all women are like this, but the attention getters.

[baouong]

i dont have a problem dating a women from a race, ethnicity, religious belief outside mines. When it comes to marriage, im confident i'd chose someone from inside my race ethnicity and religious belief. thats just the way i see it

[danfromwaterloo]

That's balony! Many young women irregardless of race, CRAVE FOR ATTENTION. They try as hard as they can to be a little tease. You can tell from their attire, behaviour, personality. (I especially can't stand the ones wearing fake Chanel 5 perfume...why else would they wear it?). Just when they've received the attention they need, they pretend they're insulted. And when you don't give them the attention, they get equally insulted.

From my own personal experience, when I'm working out at the gym, some girl starts doing her workout routine right adjacent or in front of me, even though the gym is empty and should could have used any of the 10 benches. The fact that she's wearing super tight tights and a tight shirt makes it even more obvious. I imagine she finally gets the clue I don't have the slightest interest in her because I don't glance at her even once.

I'm not insinuating that all women are like this, but the attention getters.

Women enjoy attention, true. But women enjoy attention in general. My wife gets all dressed up and looking pretty when she has a party with only her friends from work (all girls). Just because that girl at the gym is craving attention doesn't necessarily mean she's interested in you. She just wants you to be interested in her. Its an ego boost for women.

And if you don't glance at her even once, how could you tell what she was wearing?

[Homo_Erectus]

Women enjoy attention, true. But women enjoy attention in general. My wife gets all dressed up and looking pretty when she has a party with only her friends from work (all girls). Just because that girl at the gym is craving attention doesn't necessarily mean she's interested in you. She just wants you to be interested in her. Its an ego boost for women.

And if you don't glance at her even once, how could you tell what she was wearing?

DON"T glance at her and she is thinking "WTF is wrong with this guy?! HE doesn't think "I" am HOT?!"

DO glance at her and she'll give you the "WHAT the HELL are you looking at you perv" look :lol:

No win situation. Better to just play it gay and stare at the beefy looking guy on the threadmill with the words "B40" written over his spandex laced butt...

[lost~user]

DON"T glance at her and she is thinking "WTF is wrong with this guy?! HE doesn't think "I" am HOT?!"

DO glance at her and she'll give you the "WHAT the HELL are you looking at you perv" look :lol:

I think really depends on where you're looking for the amount of time of your eyes spent starring at a specific region of the body. Just try to have her catch you starring at her eyes... nothing says hello like a smile and a stare in the eyes...

[BlueMax]

I think really depends on where you're looking for the amount of time of your eyes spent starring at a specific region of the body. Just try to have her catch you starring at her eyes... nothing says hello like a smile and a stare in the eyes...

Naw - some girls are just all screwed up. I worked with one who would dress up as much as possible and talk about all the "cute guys" but would then mock most of them who passed by and so much as barely looked at her as "such a creep!"

They want the RIGHT guy to look. Anyone else who looks is creepy.
Umm.... logic=null.

[Kestral]

White girls who will only date white guys, what's the problem?

I say let the punishment fit the crime :D

[BlueMax]

White girls who will only date white guys, what's the problem?

I say let the punishment fit the crime :D

You're stuck with your race, we're stuck with ours? :) Women are women... all evil! ;)

[hyperion]

Why is this silly thread still going?

[Kestral]

You're stuck with your race, we're stuck with ours? :) Women are women... all evil! ;)
lol, nah, like guys, there are cool women and there are not-so-cool women.

Let's face it, check out your average white couple. For the most part, pretty darn boring. Live in the burbs, missionary position, mashed potatoes and meatloaf every night for dinner, or pasta with some cheese sauce that can make a lactose-intolerant Chinaman like me puke for days.

Saturday night? Go to the local Kelsey's/Casey's for some bland-ass "mungie cake" food and then to the AMC for a movie starring some other white chodes (ie. Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Nicole Kidman).

btw, the above is all said with tongue firmly in cheek :D though I do have to say, my mixed-raced couple friends are generally a lot more interesting and fun.

[BlueMax]

Pretty easy to blast "the asians" right back for the above malarkey. You just have no idea. ;)

Though I'll agree our diet is a little light on the "weird" stuff like tentacles and eyeballs....

...and we don't believe tentacle sex is appealing.

At all.

;)

[Kestral]

Pretty easy to blast "the asians" right back for the above malarkey. You just have no idea. ;)
Entertain me ;)

Don't forget, we live in whitey-land, I think us Asians know the drill.

PS: don't forget the chicken feet, pig's feet, snake soup, shark's fin soup and thousand year old egg.

[danfromwaterloo]

lol, nah, like guys, there are cool women and there are not-so-cool women.

Let's face it, check out your average white couple. For the most part, pretty darn boring. Live in the burbs, missionary position, mashed potatoes and meatloaf every night for dinner, or pasta with some cheese sauce that can make a lactose-intolerant Chinaman like me puke for days.

Saturday night? Go to the local Kelsey's/Casey's for some bland-ass "mungie cake" food and then to the AMC for a movie starring some other white chodes (ie. Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Nicole Kidman).

btw, the above is all said with tongue firmly in cheek :D though I do have to say, my mixed-raced couple friends are generally a lot more interesting and fun.

Yes, because all we white people do exactly that on Saturdays...

[Kestral]

Yes, because all we white people do exactly that on Saturdays...

Well ok, you're right. I forgot the ones who just stay at home with a pack of Molson's eh? or Alexander Keith's and watch Hockey Night in Canada. Don Cherry man! I AM CANADIAN!

:D

btw, you did see the part where I said tongue firmly in cheek, right?

[BlueMax]

What about the tentacles??

They should be neither eaten nor mated with! Bleh! Tentacles! Yecch!

[Kestral]

What about the tentacles??

They should be neither eaten nor mated with! Bleh! Tentacles! Yecch!
Depends which tentacles. Cause the Greeks with their calamari (which I love along with lemon and zatziki) might want to join in on this one :cheesygri

I gotta tell you, some of this stuff creeps me out too.

Especially those Chinese medicine shops, I heard they have bear gall bladders and and chopped up whale "wee wee"'s. Definitely take a pass on that!

[Homo_Erectus]

Entertain me ;)

Don't forget, we live in whitey-land, I think us Asians know the drill.

PS: don't forget the chicken feet, pig's feet, snake soup, shark's fin soup and thousand year old egg.

FIRST of all, Chicken feet and pig feet are widely enjoyed in various parts of the Caribbean (Chicken feet soup w/dumplings in Jamaica is good. Same with Mannish Water).
Pig feet or pig tail is used in pepperpot (Guyanese) or cook up rice. Gungo pea soup may also contain pig tails too.

I don't know about SNAKE SOUP though. Maybe only select groups within the Asian communities eat this? :confused:

[hugh_da_man]

Why is this only about white girls?

I know indian girls who will only date white guys. I know asian girls who wouldn't ever date a white guy. I know black girls who only like asian dudes. It's not racist, it's their preference and you can't force someone to like you...that's actually a little scary to think someone would complain about this kind of thing...

[frogger]

I think they see the TV remote wrapped in the plastic bag and realize thats not the type of person they want to date.

[Homo_Erectus]

Someone should make a thread called "White guys who only date White guys". See how that turns out.....

[ronin893]

...and we don't believe tentacle sex is appealing.Trying to deny that you have a secret stash of Hentai?

[konfusion666]

Trying to deny that you have a secret stash of Hentai?

i bet everyone on RFD has seen urotsukidoji at least once! :lol:

[lost~user]

Naw - some girls are just all screwed up. I worked with one who would dress up as much as possible and talk about all the "cute guys" but would then mock most of them who passed by and so much as barely looked at her as "such a creep!"

They want the RIGHT guy to look. Anyone else who looks is creepy.
Umm.... logic=null.

I think younger girls are like that... they just want the good looking guy to look most of the time... it'll get better as they mature...

i bet everyone on RFD has seen urotsukidoji at least once! :lol:

I'd think you'd refer to something more famous like La Blue Girl instead....