HOT--Logitech Quickcam STX ----- ONLY $20 !!1

[jetway1212]

I searched "logictech quickcam" and havent seen anyone posted yet so....

Staples from Jan 17 has Logitech Quickcam STX for $25

Futureshop is selling for $77.99

After PM its $19.70 at FS.

I bought 3 for $67 inlcuding tax.

GOOD DEAL EVERYONE.

[Phoenix88]

Wow, not a bad deal... 3 webcams? Are you trying to setup some sort of 'webcam business' :lol:

[jetway1212]

Wow, not a bad deal... 3 webcams? Are you trying to setup some sort of 'webcam business' :lol:

I was actually looking one for my gf. Her was not working right. Then i caught this deal. I got one extra for me and one for my mom. Awsome deal. Grab them qhile you can because i think my FS is gonna hide stock today.

[hagbard]

If they're the newer versions, $25 is exactly what they're worth.

[mahjongmaniac]

IINM:

older version: http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=&webid=614148&affixedcode=WW

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/images/products/ca614148_1_enl.jpg

newer version: http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=&webid=656097&affixedcode=WW

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/images/products/ca656097_1_enl.jpg



FS has the newer version: http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10081242&catid=10498

[TurboTropic]

If they're the newer versions, $25 is exactly what they're worth.

Can you elaborate please?

[hagbard]

Based on my experience, there are at least three versions of this webcam. One is the old one you show, which works very well. Then there's the newest, which has "intelligent face tracking", and one inbetween that looks like the newest but does NOT have the IFT (or maybe me face wasn't very intelligent that day). Anyway, I found the IQ on the newer ones to be poor, and both had dead pixel issues.

[6millions]

Is the new one bad or is it just that you can it for 25$ regular price from staples?

[hagbard]

Is the new one bad or is it just that you can it for 25$ regular price from staples?

For $25 I'd consider its imperfections, but I wouldn't pay a dime for for it. The old version, I would grab.

[BestOffer]

i have this for $20 shipped if anyone is interested

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/images/products/ca614148_1_enl.jpg

[clipz]

is this on there flyer or online?

[BB88]

So what exactly does this face tracking thing do? And what bad can it do?

[bubble.tea]

So what exactly does this face tracking thing do? And what bad can it do?

hehe....if you need to step out of view for a second and change from your bath robe to your undies and pants....and the tracking is on....lmao....you may turn inadvertently into a exhibitionist LOLs.

[jetway1212]

FS has the one without IFT, i dont think STX ever has that features.

Maybe there are bad batch out there. But i have both old and new version. The old one is the one i'm currently using. When i test the new one i just bought the picture quality is the same. I dont know why others are claiming the old one is better


The quality like i said very good. No dead pixel or other flaws. I bought my old one for $25+ tax i think.

[hagbard]

FS has the one without IFT, i dont think STX ever has that features.

Maybe there are bad batch out there. But i have both old and new version. The old one is the one i'm currently using. When i test the new one i just bought the picture quality is the same. I dont know why others are claiming the old one is better


The quality like i said very good. No dead pixel or other flaws. I bought my old one for $25+ tax i think.

I can tell you without a doubt, the newest version DOES do face tracking. I tried it, it worked fine that way. The IQ sucked, however. The new replacement did NOT have it (though they looked very much alike, they were not). Its IQ was also awful. And I own two of the old versions, and the IQ on both are very good (and no dead pixels on either).

[jetway1212]

I can tell you without a doubt, the newest version DOES do face tracking. I tried it, it worked fine that way. The IQ sucked, however. The new replacement did NOT have it (though they looked very much alike, they were not). Its IQ was also awful. And I own two of the old versions, and the IQ on both are very good (and no dead pixels on either).

Thats strange because i just tested the new one. It looks exactly like the old one i'm using in term of IQ.

Maybe because i'm using the driver of the old one?

Also i'm saying for sure that the new ones i bought from FS does NOT have IFT.

[hagbard]

Thats strange because i just tested the new one. It looks exactly like the old one i'm using in term of IQ.

Maybe because i'm using the driver of the old one?

Also i'm saying for sure that the new ones i bought from FS does NOT have IFT.

Then its not the most recent version. The first one I got the inside head actually moved around inside. The second was attached. I tried out the IFT and it worked very well.

As for the old to the newer versions, start by looking at the cords. See any difference? The overall feel of the cam? Its clearly been cheapened to introduce new features and keep the price down. Now, make sure you have the image full size, and look around for little red or green or blue spots. The first one I had had red spots, the second had green. The IQ wasn't nearly as good on the newer versions and I had them running on the same computer side by side to test my theory out.

BTW, you MAY have the newest version. The only way to tell is install the latest software from the Logitech site. You activate it in software. The second one I got (ver. 2, lets say) eliminated the option, and had "focus" grayed out.

[dhklai]

I saw at least 20 units today in Staples - Heartland. It seems a good deal, but I though it over again. Why would I want someone to see what am I doing in front of my computer?? typing? Good if you work out of town a lot and want to see your kids on your notebook.

[Rena]

staples has the older model for $35.97 right now. FS has the newer model for $77.99 right now. Is it safe to say that this deal is dead?

Actually, Staples has the round (newer?) one on clearance for $35.97 (Item Number 614148), and the older one selling for $25 (Item Number 656097).

For $25, the kids can quit fighting over the one they currently share. Thanks OP.

[jetway1212]

Actually, Staples has the round (newer?) one on clearance for $35.97 (Item Number 614148), and the older one selling for $25 (Item Number 656097).

For $25, the kids can quit fighting over the one they currently share. Thanks OP.

You're confused my friend.

The round one is the older version. The funky style is the newer version.

DONT get it from staples get it from FS for $19.70 after PM.

[jetway1212]

Then its not the most recent version. The first one I got the inside head actually moved around inside. The second was attached. I tried out the IFT and it worked very well.

As for the old to the newer versions, start by looking at the cords. See any difference? The overall feel of the cam? Its clearly been cheapened to introduce new features and keep the price down. Now, make sure you have the image full size, and look around for little red or green or blue spots. The first one I had had red spots, the second had green. The IQ wasn't nearly as good on the newer versions and I had them running on the same computer side by side to test my theory out.

BTW, you MAY have the newest version. The only way to tell is install the latest software from the Logitech site. You activate it in software. The second one I got (ver. 2, lets say) eliminated the option, and had "focus" grayed out.

Wait, is IFT a mechanism movement of the cam? or is it digital zoom?

Yes the newer one seems to be abit cheaper, espesically the cable. But i honestly test them side by side, i dont see a different in IQ ???

I looked for dead pixels, none. (Its strange that a wc would produce a dead pixels( make no sense but i understand what you mean)

[jetway1212]

OK i have just done another intensive testing between the new one and the old one.

Both using Logitech Quickcam 10.0. Viewing in 1.3 megapixels. IQ is EXACTLY the same. No dead pixels whatsoever.

Then i use Windows Explorer to running both WCs at the same time (couldnt do it with LogitechQuickcam). I find the newer version can automatically adjust the brightness. My face was much brighter under the desk lamp so the new one adjust it dimmer make it look.... better IMO. With the old one it doesnt hence my face is very bright, but it enhanced my look a bit ( skin looks brighter).

Overall i would say they both have same IQ. If anyone want to test it its only $19.70 from FS, what do you have to loose? You can always return it.

I think i'm a happy customer.

Ps, i gotta admit the new one has skinner cables, cheaper plastic but hey it works as well as the old one so i dont care much.

[hagbard]

OK i have just done another intensive testing between the new one and the old one.

Both using Logitech Quickcam 10.0. Viewing in 1.3 megapixels. IQ is EXACTLY the same. No dead pixels whatsoever.

Then i use Windows Explorer to running both WCs at the same time (couldnt do it with LogitechQuickcam). I find the newer version can automatically adjust the brightness. My face was much brighter under the desk lamp so the new one adjust it dimmer make it look.... better IMO. With the old one it doesnt hence my face is very bright, but it enhanced my look a bit ( skin looks brighter).

Overall i would say they both have same IQ. If anyone want to test it its only $19.70 from FS, what do you have to loose? You can always return it.

I think i'm a happy customer.

Ps, i gotta admit the new one has skinner cables, cheaper plastic but hey it works as well as the old one so i dont care much.

Maybe I got defective cams. One was bought at FS the other LDs. BTW, digital cameras all have pixel censors, and they can have stuck or dead pixels. Mine did, and they were very noticeable.

[Hugh Jass]

We have one of the old and one of the new in our house. No noticeable difference btwn two. Excellent quality and highly recommend them. Great price.

[jetway1212]

^^^ Thats confirmed my believe. There are bad batches out there. So TEST them b4 this deal is dead.

[kendorama]

Anyone know the real price match policy at Futureshop? The manager today gave me big trouble cause I was buying 5. He wanted to low-ball me and charge me $25 for each of them, but I refused. Then he said he'd have to call the nearest staples and make sure they had 5 in stock.

I told him they had stock online and he said it didn't matter. Then I told him if he's going to call Staples make sure he calls every single one in Downtown Montreal, he said that's not policy. They call the nearest one and if it has no stock, I get nothing or I can take his "deal" at $25 a piece.

Anyone?

[jetway1212]

Anyone know the real price match policy at Futureshop? The manager today gave me big trouble cause I was buying 5. He wanted to low-ball me and charge me $25 for each of them, but I refused. Then he said he'd have to call the nearest staples and make sure they had 5 in stock.

I told him they had stock online and he said it didn't matter. Then I told him if he's going to call Staples make sure he calls every single one in Downtown Montreal, he said that's not policy. They call the nearest one and if it has no stock, I get nothing or I can take his "deal" at $25 a piece.

Anyone?

Well if your local Staples doesnt have one instock, he can refuse to PM as the policy. BUT....

Staples online has free shipping. Go on Staples, add them to cart, go to check out and print the page out. Shows them that they're all instock as you can add them to cart. Ask them to PM, if he refuse ask him to read the policy out loud and explain what he doesnt understand word by word.

Really, you must FIGHT and said i wont leave the store without either an explanation from the head office or a PM. Be touch, keep bothering him. He probably saw you're too soft.

[kendorama]

I wasn't soft at all. I specifically said I wasn't going to take it @ $25, then glared at him, looked at his name tag, said it and asked if that was his name.

When he came back out he was all smiles and said he was going to let me have 5 stock even though Staples only had 3.

[lithiumli]

just got back from FS, the EASIEST PM in my life. i was like i want to PM this, the cahsier is like how much is it? i told him $25, and he's like how much are we selling it for? so i told hime $77.99, so he's like so thats like $52 difference, so i was like ya. so he's like ok so it's 19 and change. so after tax it was just over 20. and i used GCs so it's a sweet sweet deal. thanks OP

[GSC]

Went to downtown to grab 2... salemen (they) was doubt about it... After 15 mins all good
but when I saw the invoice, it was 24.96 and then asked about it. A guy told me that he cant do PM for me cos " the webcam isnt on sale, so I cant give you PM" wt...

then I called 1-800 number and asked what happened... of cos after a long conversation, he told me to print out both shops web pages and go back to store to ask manager...

At last manager told CSS to PM and apologised... As RFDer I asked the manager to tell the saleman about the real PM policy

[Strummer12]

I got one of these. the quality is horrible. Worse than my 5 year old creative labs pos.

[hagbard]

Well if your local Staples doesnt have one instock, he can refuse to PM as the policy. BUT....

Staples online has free shipping. Go on Staples, add them to cart, go to check out and print the page out. Shows them that they're all instock as you can add them to cart. Ask them to PM, if he refuse ask him to read the policy out loud and explain what he doesnt understand word by word.

Really, you must FIGHT and said i wont leave the store without either an explanation from the head office or a PM. Be touch, keep bothering him. He probably saw you're too soft.

Staples has free shipping on shipments over $50, or have I missed something?

[mook32]

Just picked up 3, no problem at all. I brought the staples flier which made it easy. The cashier didn't even blink, just checked to make sure they were the same units and had me on my way.
Good picture quality, no problems what so ever.
Great deal for 20$
thanks op

[jetway1212]

Staples has free shipping on shipments over $50, or have I missed something?

I was preferring to his specific case, he's ordering 5 of them

[jetway1212]

I got one of these. the quality is horrible. Worse than my 5 year old creative labs pos.

Cool, your 5 year old POS can do 1.3meg? And to me your 5 yr old POS is a very good wc then. You're probably think a wc is a pro video cam. LOL

[Mugen_GSR]

how did you guys get the price at 19.70 after PM? i'm new to this, i thought they would match the price and take 10% off but from 25 to 19.70 is more then 10% please clear that up for me please
thanks

[jetway1212]

how did you guys get the price at 19.70 after PM? i'm new to this, i thought they would match the price and take 10% off but from 25 to 19.70 is more then 10% please clear that up for me please
thanks

Its 10% of the difference, not the price.

So $78 - $25 = $53 x 10% = $5.30

So the final price is $25 - $5.30 = $19.70

[Mugen_GSR]

oh ok cool now i get it
thanks for your help

Its 10% of the difference, not the price.

So $78 - $25 = $53 x 10% = $5.30

So the final price is $25 - $5.30 = $19.70

[jetway1212]

oh ok cool now i get it
thanks for your help

no problem.

I guess you own a GSR? how is it treating you?

B series is awesome. I had a lot of fun with it.

[Mugen_GSR]

yup i own a GSR, treating me very good, just did a little tune up to her, in the process of reading up on how to do a valve adjustment, any tips?
what did you use to own/or still own?
i'm from vancouver, bc

no problem.

I guess you own a GSR? how is it treating you?

B series is awesome. I had a lot of fun with it.

[Dangaa]

got some - thanx op! :)

[jetway1212]

yup i own a GSR, treating me very good, just did a little tune up to her, in the process of reading up on how to do a valve adjustment, any tips?
what did you use to own/or still own?
i'm from vancouver, bc

Valve adjustment on B series is very easy. My only tip is to be patient and take your time. I bet the guide you found should be clear enough.

I had a built NA B20 Vtec (LS), now i'm building a K20(RSX-S) with stoker kit from Crower. It should be K23 when its done and rev happily to 10,000RPM. I'm into NA more than FI.

Also my first mods are always footage : tires, dampers, brakes. I find it change the feel of the car completely.

We're WAY OFF topic here :)

[h00ch]

If you only want to buy 1 of these cams and want to avoid the FS spiel about shipping, just PM using the flyer. If you don't have the flyer, go to the flyer online and print that out. You may not be able to see the details of the cam on the flyer, so before you print the page, hover your mouse over the picture of the cam and a pop-up description will be displayed with the details. Using the keyboard (ALT + F, then P) print the page keeping the pop-up description showing.

[h00ch]

... or just print this :D

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/4f42a1eebe.jpg

[jackass_ca]

So, I bought the Quickcam Messenger a few weeks back at Staples, for $14.95 and was wondering if it is any good, I have just ordered 2 of the Communicate STX, and was wondering which one is better, as far as clarity, and such. I have a Webcam Messenger from years ago, that the picture quality is awful, bad colouring, grainy picture, can't get the focus ring to work well. Thought maybe the new one would be better for $5 more I would get the Communicate STX if is it alot better.

I don't think the Messenger has the rightlight technology though!

[CheapScotsman]

Got one from the Staples near Superstore (nr Highway 1 in Coquitlam). They only had 2 or 3 left on the shelf at $25. (I didn't want to drive 20 minutes one way to futureshop for a possible PM). Will test it out in the next day or two

[rezel]

Went to FS @ Dixie and Dundas but they r OOS. So on the way back I stopped by BB and tried my luck. Grabbed the last one there and PM without any problem at all. Thanks op.

[jackass_ca]

... or just print this :D

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/4f42a1eebe.jpg

Be careful using this printout, went to BB and they denied because it says clearance, they do not PM clearance prices... so went to FS up the road, and they did it, when I just showed them the print out of the online sale price. They were going to call the Staples near there to confirm stock, but couldn't find the number, so they just gave it to me for $19.70 and it does have the intelligent face tracking technology.

Thanks OP!

[twopointfivebar]

Thanks OP!

I picked up two at BB at Warden & Eglinton, they seemed to have quite a few when I picked them up.

The cashier was having a horrible time calculating the 10% difference though... she kept getting $20.90. Total idiot.

[cwalk]

Picked one up for $19.70 tax included. I just walked into FS, and asked them to check Staples' website, no problems, but CSR was slow as hell. Thanks Op!

[jetway1212]

Thanks OP!

I picked up two at BB at Warden & Eglinton, they seemed to have quite a few when I picked them up.

The cashier was having a horrible time calculating the 10% difference though... she kept getting $20.90. Total idiot.

Believe it or not i was flirting with the cashier that did mine. Shes stupid too but shes hot. Anyway it was fun as i helped out and we talked very flirty. :D Cant way to see her again with another PM

[jraja]

got one for 19.70 + tax so around 22 or so, from brampton, they had a few there.

[bubbabyte]

hey guys.. i just bought 2 of these today at staples and ended up returning them. While they may be sufficient for some.. i found them horrible. Here is my small review for those thinking about purchasing.

The newer version of the camera looks cool.. however, it can only sit on top of a flat screen as it has no stand.
The image quality is poor, and even at low res, it is very slow to respond. Any quick movement is lagged. The face recognition is just sad.. maybe i expected too much from this technology but if you move about a foot in any direction, by the time the camera actually adjusts itself to your face, you're already somewhere else.. it's that bad.
And last but not least.. but definitly the deal breaker for me.. after installing the software (which btw is needed in windows vista as drivers are not found by default) there are roughly 4-6 .exe files loaded in memory at startup.. which ARE required for chatting with webcam through IM.

bad.. just bad.

but anyway.. if you're looking for something to take a few quick pics of yourself in a very pixelated 1.3MP quality.. then this camera is for you.

[nauht]

I was at FS today to return something and I was lucky to overhear some guy coming in and PMing this webcam and I had to jump on the deal :D . For those who picked up two or more - did you picked all of them at the same time or did you have to run around to different stores and get them? The first time I got one I didn't get the 10% PM diff cuz I didn't have the flyer so I didn't have anything to back my claim up :evil:

[Golf_CL]

Thanks for the deal OOP... I just cahsed in on this one at my local Future Shop. LOL

[jetway1212]

hey guys.. i just bought 2 of these today at staples and ended up returning them. While they may be sufficient for some.. i found them horrible. Here is my small review for those thinking about purchasing.

The newer version of the camera looks cool.. however, it can only sit on top of a flat screen as it has no stand.
The image quality is poor, and even at low res, it is very slow to respond. Any quick movement is lagged. The face recognition is just sad.. maybe i expected too much from this technology but if you move about a foot in any direction, by the time the camera actually adjusts itself to your face, you're already somewhere else.. it's that bad.
And last but not least.. but definitly the deal breaker for me.. after installing the software (which btw is needed in windows vista as drivers are not found by default) there are roughly 4-6 .exe files loaded in memory at startup.. which ARE required for chatting with webcam through IM.

bad.. just bad.

but anyway.. if you're looking for something to take a few quick pics of yourself in a very pixelated 1.3MP quality.. then this camera is for you.

It comes with stand, you just have to remove the LCD stand, it will be a flat base for desk stand.

I honestly think you got bad ones from what you describe. Mine doesnt come with Face tracking so maybe its different. I find the quality is on part with the old one, so its good.

[malaca]

And last but not least.. but definitly the deal breaker for me.. after installing the software (which btw is needed in windows vista as drivers are not found by default) there are roughly 4-6 .exe files loaded in memory at startup.. which ARE required for chatting with webcam through IM.

bad.. just bad.

Yuck! Having a bunch of those resident programs is a good way to slow down and destabilize windows.

but anyway.. if you're looking for something to take a few quick pics of yourself in a very pixelated 1.3MP quality.. then this camera is for you.
Not really. It's a 640x480 sensor which makes it a 0.3MP camera... don't expect the same resolution as a digital camera.
(The "1.3MP" is software interpolation.)

[Strummer12]

Cool, your 5 year old POS can do 1.3meg? And to me your 5 yr old POS is a very good wc then. You're probably think a wc is a pro video cam. LOL

It's not 1.3, but it produces better images than this junk in terms of color and I'm not stupid, I know what these crappy cams are but for something so recent, I expected better, dumbass.

[hagbard]

So, for $20 after PM, I decided to get one. First, the checkout person tried to call Staples and couldn't get through (about five minutes on hold), then she "has to ask my manager", then she comes back and price matches at $25. I said, it should be a Price Match! She then comes back with a before tax price of $23. I thought everyone was saying it was $19.70? What is the policy there? Anyway, I said forget it and walked out.

[Golf_CL]

The Coquitlam Center Future Shop had about 30 units left on their shelves at noon.

The best part was they had to okay the price match with the manager at the Customer Service Desk. He initially refused the price match and I had to read out their own price matching policy back to them. LOL I ended up picking up 5 units which I'll give away as various birthday and Christmas presents!

Then he said he'd do it... and had the guts to tell me this...

"You are one of those guys from the Red Flag Website. What you guys do is illegal and unethical... I'm going to speak to our head office to make sure you guys don't take advantage of us again."

[hagbard]

I guess the "pixel censor" will prevent that :lol:

Dude, you're the last one that should be making fun of my errors. :D

[hagbard]

The Coquitlam Center Future Shop had about 30 units left on their shelves at noon.

The best part was they had to okay the price match with the manager at the Customer Service Desk. He initially refused the price match and I had to read out their own price matching policy back to them. LOL

Then he said he'd do it... and had the guts to tell me this...

"You are one of those guys from the Red Flag Website. What you guys do is illegal and unethical... I'm going to speak to our head office to make sure you guys don't take advantage of us again."

They're calling us "unethical", that's a good one. It just wasn't worth saving $5 to bother, especially given the quality of the product.

[dealking604]

The Coquitlam Center Future Shop had about 30 units left on their shelves at noon.

The best part was they had to okay the price match with the manager at the Customer Service Desk. He initially refused the price match and I had to read out their own price matching policy back to them. LOL

Then he said he'd do it... and had the guts to tell me this...

"You are one of those guys from the Red Flag Website. What you guys do is illegal and unethical... I'm going to speak to our head office to make sure you guys don't take advantage of us again."

illegal?
under what act/regulations?
I think he said it the wrong way
"What we are doing is illegal and unethical since we are breaking the contract with our customers"
The PM terms/conditions is part of the sales contract you have with them when you purchase.

[Golf_CL]

illegal?
under what act/regulations?
I think he said it the wrong way
"What we are doing is illegal and unethical since we are breaking the contract with our customers"
The PM terms/conditions is part of the sales contract you have with them when you purchase.

Oh.. he was upset and his tone of voice was as I was his kid and he was telling me off. lol

This was the same CSR guy who trolled the returns line up after Christmas trying to convince people to keep their items before they got to the returns desk. Total intimidation and creep.

[kendorama]

So, for $20 after PM, I decided to get one. First, the checkout person tried to call Staples and couldn't get through (about five minutes on hold), then she "has to ask my manager", then she comes back and price matches at $25. I said, it should be a Price Match! She then comes back with a before tax price of $23. I thought everyone was saying it was $19.70? What is the policy there? Anyway, I said forget it and walked out.


They are trying to hustle you, that happened to me too. The manager offered it @ 25 a piece, I said no, I want the price match price which is below $20.

[mahjongmaniac]

Be careful using this printout, went to BB and they denied because it says clearance, they do not PM clearance prices... so went to FS up the road, and they did it, when I just showed them the print out of the online sale price. They were going to call the Staples near there to confirm stock, but couldn't find the number, so they just gave it to me for $19.70 and it does have the intelligent face tracking technology.

Thanks OP!

yes in their policy it says that they don't PM clearance prices, BUT all you need to do is double check w/ stooples if that's a clearance price

AFAIK, it shouldn't be b/c it doesn't end in a "7" - similar to FS/BB's clearance pricing except it's '.95' or '.97'

[mahjongmaniac]

So, for $20 after PM, I decided to get one. First, the checkout person tried to call Staples and couldn't get through (about five minutes on hold), then she "has to ask my manager", then she comes back and price matches at $25. I said, it should be a Price Match! She then comes back with a before tax price of $23. I thought everyone was saying it was $19.70? What is the policy there? Anyway, I said forget it and walked out.

actually, the correct wording would be "price BEAT"... price match just means 100%

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The Coquitlam Center Future Shop had about 30 units left on their shelves at noon.

The best part was they had to okay the price match with the manager at the Customer Service Desk. He initially refused the price match and I had to read out their own price matching policy back to them. LOL I ended up picking up 5 units which I'll give away as various birthday and Christmas presents!

Then he said he'd do it... and had the guts to tell me this...

"You are one of those guys from the Red Flag Website. What you guys do is illegal and unethical... I'm going to speak to our head office to make sure you guys don't take advantage of us again."

haha... wtf? :-0

i can't believe he had the nerves to say that...

HowTH is PMing "illegal" or "unethical"... ?

if the PM is legit, well, we're just asking them to honour their so-called "110% LPG"... :rolleyes:

[Golf_CL]

I really think the icing on the cake was the fact that I bought 5 webcams and not just one unit.

From their stand point, they should have gotten almost $400 for the 5 webcams... but instead I handed them about $100. LMAO

Even as I walked to the tils for my purchase, some guy from the computer dept came up to me and put a stick Future Shop issued post it note on the cams for commission. The freaking guy never helped me and thought he'd get a nice commission based on a $400 sale. LOL

[kmchow]

actually, the correct wording would be "price BEAT"... price match just means 100%

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haha... wtf? :-0

i can't believe he had the nerves to say that...

HowTH is PMing "illegal" or "unethical"... ?

if the PM is legit, well, we're just asking them to honour their so-called "110% LPG"... :rolleyes:
My thoughts exactly, FS has sold the webcam previously for $30-35 after rebate. It's just now that their deal has been beaten by someone else, they're upset.

OTOH, the manager does have reason to be upset, you're cutting into his margin/gross profit for his store which likely will hurt his year end bonus. $5 may not seem like much on a single occurence, but over the course of the year couldl add up, including all those open box items.

[h00ch]

So, for $20 after PM, I decided to get one. First, the checkout person tried to call Staples and couldn't get through (about five minutes on hold), then she "has to ask my manager", then she comes back and price matches at $25. I said, it should be a Price Match! She then comes back with a before tax price of $23. I thought everyone was saying it was $19.70? What is the policy there? Anyway, I said forget it and walked out.
Both BB & FS will beat a competitor's price by 10% of the difference. To calculate the price they are supposed to sell it to you for, just subtract the cheaper price from their price then take 10% of that and subtract it from the competitor's price.

For example:
Staples price = $25
Future Shop price = $77.99
$77.99 - $25 = $52.99
10% of $52.99 = $5.30 ($5.299)
$25 - $5.30 = $19.70

[hagbard]

Both BB & FS will beat a competitor's price by 10% of the difference. To calculate the price they are supposed to sell it to you for, just subtract the cheaper price from their price then take 10% of that and subtract it from the competitor's price.

For example:
Staples price = $25
Future Shop price = $77.99
$77.99 - $25 = $52.99
10% of $52.99 = $5.30 ($5.299)
$25 - $5.30 = $19.70

She was doing what she could to avoid doing the price match. I might expect this from a street vendor in a third world country, but not in a major Canadian retailer.

[h00ch]

She was doing what she could to avoid doing the price match. I might expect this from a street vendor in a third world country, but not in a major Canadian retailer.
I'd say about 90% or the time when I go to FS or BB (FS is worse) they always "forget" to beat the price initially and just match it. Then I question them and they say "Oh ya, I forgot to beat it"... I guess they get paid commission and want to make a few more cents off of you? I dunno... if it wasn't for their %110 PM policy, I'd never shop at either of those stores.

[stratux]

just got one at fs on markham road for 20 bucks including tax....lol im happy..also off topic got 2 micro sd cards for 19 bucks each

[Golf_CL]

I have yet to crack mine open to use, but it does have the Intelligent Face Tracking. It says it right on the box. :)

[neoice]

Where did you get the microsd cards for $19?

just got one at fs on markham road for 20 bucks including tax....lol im happy..also off topic got 2 micro sd cards for 19 bucks each

[jackass_ca]

"You are one of those guys from the Red Flag Website. What you guys do is illegal and unethical... I'm going to speak to our head office to make sure you guys don't take advantage of us again."

Um, don't BB and FS work along with the mods and owners here to release early details, say for Boxing Week sales, and such. Might be the managers downfall when he b*tches to head office and they tell him that they love RFD'ers, as not only do we go in to the store to PM, but when we see a good deal, we also spend unnecessary amounts of money online and in store, as good deals are pointed out to those that might not otherwise read about them.

What a tool!

[jackass_ca]

It comes with stand, you just have to remove the LCD stand, it will be a flat base for desk stand.

I honestly think you got bad ones from what you describe. Mine doesnt come with Face tracking so maybe its different. I find the quality is on part with the old one, so its good.
Mine didn't have a stand? Did anyone else have a stand with theirs?

Also, I do find a little lag, not sure if it is because of software or drivers, but when I talk, to record for instance, the camera picks up video fine but the sound is off a little bit.

How much do you have to spend to get one that the quality is really good, saw someone with perfect clarity and focus, and colour and they were sitting in a dark room... said it was logitech, but not which model!

[nauht]

And how what's the capacity? 1GB?

Where did you get the microsd cards for $19?

[neo1973]

Mine didn't have a stand? Did anyone else have a stand with theirs?

Found this picture. Looks like it would sit on a table too.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/26-104-021-03.jpg

[ianmills]

Thanks OP! :)

Here's a review for the rest of you.
What utter piece of crap!! The picture is okay, but movement does have a fair amount of blur, similar to the movie mode on my five year old digital camera.

Now comes the fun part. When the camera is plugged in to my computer, my computer refuses to boot. I need to unplug the webcam in order to boot my computer. Just as spectacular is that when I actually use the WebCam on my computer, if I have winamp playing music, it comes out all DISTORTED. If I turn off the WebCamera, the music plays fine again.
Finally, the icing on the cake is when my computer boots the Logitech software automatically screws with settings in my VOIP software (Xlite) even though I specifically unchecked the box so the Logitech software wouldn't control my VOIP settings.

This is the worst crap software I have run into in years :puke:
I downloaded the newest version of the software from the Logitech and reinstalled everything. It didn't help.

Has anyone else been having similar problems? Or know of any solutions?

Thanks!
A newl anti-logitech customer

[neoice]

Ianmills is right. It's pretty bad, the blur aways. Paying $20 for it is a little bit too much. I think I'm going to just return it.

[lak]

A reminder for those who think this deal is hot, this was sold at $4.99 at BB last Oct. Yes, $4.99 ($19.99 - $15 MIR)! And I did manage to grab one :D

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=356495

[jackass_ca]

A reminder for those who think this deal is hot, this was sold at $4.99 at BB last Oct. Yes, $4.99 ($19.99 - $15 MIR)! And I did manage to grab one :D

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=356495

Well, almost the same, last years model, but I imagine not much has changed...

[neoice]

I returned two of the cameras to the lougheed hwy staples by brentwood mall

[nauht]

I returned two of the cameras to the lougheed hwy staples by brentwood mall

and why is that? crappy image quality? wanted to get a PM from BB/FS?

[inferno_gn]

Hi there,

"You are one of those guys from the Red Flag Website. What you guys do is illegal and unethical... I'm going to speak to our head office to make sure you guys don't take advantage of us again."

Well, maybe we should all file a complaint to FS HQ about that. First, it's "illegal and unethical" to accused a customer. Second, it's out right rude and saying that in front of other customers and you should feel quite insulted. Last, if I got into that situation, the first thing I will say, well, "remove your 110% policy and that will solve your problem" After all, they are advertising it with a huge sign, so!

Give them crap! Lots of it, I say. By the way, I got two, so. :D

Ju Leon...

[noname]

I returned my purchase today.

the picture quality is great when nothing moves, but the minute you move your head, the motion blur is unbearable

also for some reason, the microphone did not work and it broke my sound card drivers when it was plugged in. sound work fine if the webcam was not plugged in, go figure.

[inferno_gn]

Hi there,

I wonder if they calculated wrongly the extra 10%, I wonder if it count for that price accuracy protection. :evil: :D After all, they didn't gave me the correct price as by their own policy!

Ju Leon...

[RED123]

just got 2 at 19.70 from FS this afternoon. I dont think it's a true 1.3M web cam, but for 20 bucks it 's ok.

[fatkinglet]

got two at FS for myself today

[malaca]

BTW make sure it's plugged into a USB2 port, and your USB drivers are up to date. It says "Enhanced Host Controller" (not "Universal Host Controller") in Device Manager, see link (http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/bus/USB/USBFAQ_intro.mspx) for more info.
The cam requires Hi-Speed mode (480Mbps) to transfer 640x480@30fps.

[inferno_gn]

Hi there,

I should really test it out. Anyways, I do warm you, don't install the Logitech software. I couldn't uninstall it at all. :( Stupid software. Just install the drivers only. :D

Ju Leon...

[jetway1212]

I returned my purchase today.

the picture quality is great when nothing moves, but the minute you move your head, the motion blur is unbearable

also for some reason, the microphone did not work and it broke my sound card drivers when it was plugged in. sound work fine if the webcam was not plugged in, go figure.

What IM program are you using? I find the motion blurs very bad if i choose 1.3 MP, but when i use it with Yahoo Messenger its perfect.

Also the reason it messed up the sound card is its software is a *****. It automatically reset and messed up your media software output preference. I had to set the output to my soundcard device. I have 2 sound cards in my computer has i have multizone and multi stream.

For $20 i have no complains. But you're right it is worth the retail price. Logitech has gone down in quality alot lately.

[mahjongmaniac]

My thoughts exactly, FS has sold the webcam previously for $30-35 after rebate. It's just now that their deal has been beaten by someone else, they're upset.

OTOH, the manager does have reason to be upset, you're cutting into his margin/gross profit for his store which likely will hurt his year end bonus. $5 may not seem like much on a single occurence, but over the course of the year couldl add up, including all those open box items.

actually, it doesn't have to be "over course of a yr"... if a bunch of RFDers go to the same location to PM all at once, it's already "adding up", and really fast too :lol:

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A reminder for those who think this deal is hot, this was sold at $4.99 at BB last Oct. Yes, $4.99 ($19.99 - $15 MIR)! And I did manage to grab one :D

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=356495

that's the older model.

but for $5 AR, not bad.

i got one, but wish i got a couple more....

[inferno_gn]

Hi there,

It's still better then my old non-Windows XP webcam that died and doesn't work anymore on my computer. *lol* I'm gonna test it out tomorrow. By the way, if you got blurry images, why not take screenshots and let us see how bad it is if you say it is so?

Ju Leon...

[weesur]

I returned my purchase today.

the picture quality is great when nothing moves, but the minute you move your head, the motion blur is unbearable

also for some reason, the microphone did not work and it broke my sound card drivers when it was plugged in. sound work fine if the webcam was not plugged in, go figure.

Thats because this has an option called low light boost in advanced. If you have enough light in the room disable that and this problem will be solved.

But I am having problem with this camera. Whenever I try to open MSN for a video chat computer dies with blue screen. But MSN video chat works well with my second camera well.

[jackass_ca]

BTW make sure it's plugged into a USB2 port, and your USB drivers are up to date. It says "Enhanced Host Controller" (not "Universal Host Controller") in Device Manager, see link (http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/bus/USB/USBFAQ_intro.mspx) for more info.
The cam requires Hi-Speed mode (480Mbps) to transfer 640x480@30fps.

Okay, quick question, I show the Enhanced Host Controller, how do I know which port to plug the camera into so it uses this USB port, and not a slower one? Or are they all the same speed because of this controller?

[hagbard]

Decided to try one more time with a price match at the FS in Langford. Guy told me he wouldnt' price match because the Staples deal was an "instant rebate" but he would if it was a Logitech one. Just don't feel like debating with morons to save $5 on a crappy product. Now wishing I didn't waste my VISA bonus points on FS gift certificates.

[jamewoong]

It is possible to PM this if I bought it for $30.00 in the boxing day @FS?

[inferno_gn]

Hi there,

Any PM must be done within 30 days of the purchase with receipt, so DO IT NOW! If not, just buy a new one and return the other one on Boxing Sale. :D

Ju Leon...

[malaca]

Okay, quick question, I show the Enhanced Host Controller, how do I know which port to plug the camera into so it uses this USB port, and not a slower one? Or are they all the same speed because of this controller?

If you plug it into an USB(1) port it'll probably popup a message near the tray that says "This device can run faster if you plug it into a USB2 port".

But to be sure, use SiSoft Sandra (http://www.download.com/SiSoftware-Sandra-Lite/3000-2094-10556571.html),
go in the Ports section, select 'USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller' and see if it's listed there (you'll see also the Speed it's using, it should say 'High (480Mbps)'

[inferno_gn]

Hi there,

Updated drivers...
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/CA/EN,crid=1794,contentid=12481,osid=1

Ju Leon...

[jamewoong]

Hi there,

Any PM must be done within 30 days of the purchase with receipt, so DO IT NOW! If not, just buy a new one and return the other one on Boxing Sale. :D

Ju Leon...
LOL, nice idea. I will get my $10 back. hihih

Thanks for the idea! :twisted:

[inferno_gn]

Hi there,

Better do it quick and PM ASAP. :D Boxing Sale usually they don't do it, but if you can't get it, as I say, buy the one with a PM, then use that item and return the Boxing Sale purchase. So there...

Ju Leon...

[inferno_gn]

Hi there,

This deal is dead, so move it. However, I return both cameras as everyone is right, this camera is all like blur! I see more squares on me then me! *lol*

Oh, read this...
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4546742

Ju Leon...

[bubbabyte]

Thanks OP! :)

Here's a review for the rest of you.
What utter piece of crap!! The picture is okay, but movement does have a fair amount of blur, similar to the movie mode on my five year old digital camera.

Now comes the fun part. When the camera is plugged in to my computer, my computer refuses to boot. I need to unplug the webcam in order to boot my computer. Just as spectacular is that when I actually use the WebCam on my computer, if I have winamp playing music, it comes out all DISTORTED. If I turn off the WebCamera, the music plays fine again.
Finally, the icing on the cake is when my computer boots the Logitech software automatically screws with settings in my VOIP software (Xlite) even though I specifically unchecked the box so the Logitech software wouldn't control my VOIP settings.

This is the worst crap software I have run into in years :puke:
I downloaded the newest version of the software from the Logitech and reinstalled everything. It didn't help.

Has anyone else been having similar problems? Or know of any solutions?

Thanks!
A newl anti-logitech customer

nobody listens to me.. i said all this 2 day before you...lol

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4519890&postcount=53

[hagbard]

nobody listens to me.. i said all this 2 day before you...lol

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4519890&postcount=53

Listens to you. I said it before you did.

[inferno_gn]

Hi there,

Well, it never hurt to try. :D

Ju Leon...

[Petabyte]

I was going to buy the newer model as well but hearing from you guys how bad it is, I decided not to and instead ordered the older and discontinued (but better) model. Staples had both models for $25 last week. The sale is over now with the new one going back up to $79.96 and the old one at $30.57.

Instead of installing the Logitech software (which sounds like that can be a nightmare in itself), I've only installed the drivers to make it work. So far so good...

[coaxial]

We're WAY OFF topic here :)

lol, I skipped the middle pages of this thread and was highly confused by this talk of camshafts :|

[ares_toronto]

so I just bought this a lil while ago for a cheap webcam and I was looking at the specs once it was connected and I don't believe it does USB2. I read up online and a lot of people have mentioned it. I've tried it on 2 comps now and it just uses 1.1. Unless theres something majorly wrong I'm doing??

Same here, at first I was suspecting I used the wrong port however latero on found out in the same port all my other USB2 devices (External Hard disk, Wireless USB adapter etc.) Only this Camera always 1.1. Thus, it makes the capture ability of movement even worse than the very old Logitech 420 I have now, very bad ghosting.

Is there anything else I should do to make it USB2 since I did use the latest driver of this camera, or it just simply sucks?

[coolcoolfi]

Thanks OP! :)

Here's a review for the rest of you.
What utter piece of crap!! The picture is okay, but movement does have a fair amount of blur, similar to the movie mode on my five year old digital camera.

Now comes the fun part. When the camera is plugged in to my computer, my computer refuses to boot. I need to unplug the webcam in order to boot my computer. Just as spectacular is that when I actually use the WebCam on my computer, if I have winamp playing music, it comes out all DISTORTED. If I turn off the WebCamera, the music plays fine again.
Finally, the icing on the cake is when my computer boots the Logitech software automatically screws with settings in my VOIP software (Xlite) even though I specifically unchecked the box so the Logitech software wouldn't control my VOIP settings.

This is the worst crap software I have run into in years :puke:
I downloaded the newest version of the software from the Logitech and reinstalled everything. It didn't help.

Has anyone else been having similar problems? Or know of any solutions?

Thanks!
A newl anti-logitech customer

I have a similiar problem. I bought a Pro 5000 a couple of months ago. The driver coming with thsi webcam (or the whole software package coming with this webcam) worked fine. A week ago, I accidently deleted some files in my machine (thought they might be adware/spyware) and webcam did not work since then. Couldn't find the original cd, I downloaded the new driver from Logitech website. Guess what? Whenever I start MSN with webcam, my computer crashes.

Hmm...Maybe it is because some files I deleted, not installed by using new software package? Ok, let me try a brand new machine which I just installed winxp. Still, after installing the new pachage, my new computer crashed whenever I start msn with webcam.

I don't know what's going on with Logitech!

[coolcoolfi]

Hi there,

Updated drivers...
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/CA/EN,crid=1794,contentid=12481,osid=1

Ju Leon...

That doesn't work well!

[coolcoolfi]

Hi there,

I should really test it out. Anyways, I do warm you, don't install the Logitech software. I couldn't uninstall it at all. :( Stupid software. Just install the drivers only. :D

Ju Leon...

Exactly!

[ficklen]

wow, this thing is such a disappointment. its my first webcam and mercy its all blurry and grainy, the thing screwed up my internet connection and wouldnt let me boot up as it just hung on a black screen. and i am running this on a brand new computer.


i got it via futureshop online, am I able to bring this back to the store in the city and say i dont want it?