Dell 24" Killer: Gateway FPD2485W 24-inch Flat Panel Display with FAROUDJA CHIPSET!

[Jon Lai]

Thought that there hasn't been much good 24" competitors? Another one has arrived!

Just released from Gateway, this beauty includes the FAROUDJA CHIPSET! Honestly I've been looking at the 21" model of this LCD for a good half of 2006 but hated the fact that it was so small. When I saw it before on Futureshop, it's image quality was spectacular.

Now that they have a 24" version avaliable, I'm going to be all over this.

http://www.gateway.com/img/prod/large/mntr_FPD2485W_large.jpg

Cosmetically it's the same as the 21" model.

Gateway website:
http://accessories.gateway.com/AccessoryStore/PC+Accessories_316441/Monitors_316684/LCD+_Q1_Flat+Panel_Q1_+Monitors_316694/22_PL1_+inch+LCD_381956/1540522R_ProdDetail?seg=hm

Some specs:
# 1920x1200 resolution
# 1000:1 contrast ratio
# 6ms response time
# Picture-in-picture

IMO if we compare specs to Dell 24", they're mostly the same, EXCEPT this one has dual component input, so it can also serve as a TV as well, AND the fact that it has the FAROUDJA CHIPSET! Yes, I'm really a fan of Faroudja, but if you've seen Faroudja, you'll love it too.

However, Dell's lowest price is $699...

This baby retails in the states for $679.99US... and I just saw it at Futureshop today for $799.99!!

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10081342&catid=22335

Considering how Futureshop always puts on a big margin, I don't doubt that it can match Dell's price, which is only $100 away.

I was eyeing the Dell before, but now I'll eye this. Anyone else with me?

Review:
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,2078856,00.asp?kc=ETRSS02129TX1K0000532

[ibear]

sounds like a good price for a 24'' with faroudja. detailed specification here: http://support.gateway.com/s/MONITOR/7005576R/7005576Rsp2.shtml

it uses S-PVA panel.

also, i just found that it supports theme (like the magicbright feature on all the samsung lcd, which is why i like samsung a lot, and why i didn't buy the gateway 21''). must resist...

Thought that there hasn't been much good 24" competitors? Another one has arrived!

Just released from Gateway, this beauty includes the FAROUDJA CHIPSET! Honestly I've been looking at the 21" model of this LCD for a good half of 2006 but hated the fact that it was so small. When I saw it before on Futureshop, it's image quality was spectacular.

Now that they have a 24" version avaliable, I'm going to be all over this.

http://www.gateway.com/img/prod/large/mntr_FPD2485W_large.jpg

Cosmetically it's the same as the 21" model.

Gateway website:
http://accessories.gateway.com/AccessoryStore/PC+Accessories_316441/Monitors_316684/LCD+_Q1_Flat+Panel_Q1_+Monitors_316694/22_PL1_+inch+LCD_381956/1540522R_ProdDetail?seg=hm

Some specs:
# 1920x1200 resolution
# 1000:1 contrast ratio
# 6ms response time
# Picture-in-picture

IMO if we compare specs to Dell 24", they're mostly the same, EXCEPT this one has dual component input, so it can also serve as a TV as well, AND the fact that it has the FAROUDJA CHIPSET! Yes, I'm really a fan of Faroudja, but if you've seen Faroudja, you'll love it too.

However, Dell's lowest price is $699...

This baby retails in the states for $679.99US... and I just saw it at Futureshop today for $799.99!!

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10081342&catid=22335

Considering how Futureshop always puts on a big margin, I don't doubt that it can match Dell's price, which is only $100 away.

I was eyeing the Dell before, but now I'll eye this. Anyone else with me?

Review:
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,2078856,00.asp?kc=ETRSS02129TX1K0000532

[ibear]

also, you may want to post it in the hot deal section, as i think the price is very good even compared to dell as you get more functions on this one.

[ibear]

many customers review here, and all of them positive

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Customer-reviews-for-Gateway-24-Widescreen-Monitor-FPD2485W/sem/rpsm/oid/166293/rpem/ccd/productDetailReview.do#tabs

[Jon Lai]

Thanks for your suggestion, posted in hot deals!

many customers review here, and all of them positive

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Customer-reviews-for-Gateway-24-Widescreen-Monitor-FPD2485W/sem/rpsm/oid/166293/rpem/ccd/productDetailReview.do#tabs

Not surprised that reviews at CC are positive :P I'm sure they scan them just like Futureshop does.

Anyways, this is a new monitor so I doubt most of those are extremely accurate.

[dvdvideo]

Nice to see a 16:10 monitor with actual aspect ratio controls. I can't beleive how many 16:10 monitors on the market currently don't have these settings. There is really no excuse, especially for units that have component inputs or declare themselves HDTV compatable. I don't care for my 16:9 imaged steched thank you. Dell had it covered....until they left the feature off the new 22" model......

[Jon Lai]

I really should've made a poll for this.. but... Who thinks this is better than the Dell?

[CameraBill]

widescreen with Faroudja? This combo doesn't make sense to me. Am I missing something?

[sonick]

If you're only using this LCD as a computer monitor, there really is no point in having Faroudja, as the whole reason of Faroudja is to upconvert interlaced/SD material to progressive/HD.

The only situations you would be using Faroudja is when you're using it to display video that is outside its native resolution (DVD, SDTV, HDTV, etc. but not computer).

[alysomji]

Doesn't the Westinghouse 27-inch at Bestbuy also have Faroudja?

http://www.westinghousedigital.com/details.aspx?itemnum=19

It mentions: DCDi by Faroudja

From Amazon:

It features Faroudja's Emmy award-winning DCDi deinterlacing and scaling technology to up-convert standard video in DVDs to HD resolutions. DCDi (Directional Correlational Deinterlacing) technology eliminates the jagginess that conventional upconverters introduced to diagonal edges in video.

The price of the Westinghouse was $650 or $699 around Boxing Day.

[Jon Lai]

Doesn't the Westinghouse 27-inch at Bestbuy also have Faroudja?

http://www.westinghousedigital.com/details.aspx?itemnum=19

It mentions: DCDi by Faroudja

From Amazon:

It features Faroudja's Emmy award-winning DCDi deinterlacing and scaling technology to up-convert standard video in DVDs to HD resolutions. DCDi (Directional Correlational Deinterlacing) technology eliminates the jagginess that conventional upconverters introduced to diagonal edges in video.

The price of the Westinghouse was $650 or $699 around Boxing Day.

IIRC it was $699 during Boxing Day.

But you can't compare a TV and a Monitor. This TV has a max res of 720P, while the monitor does 1280P. That's more than twice as many pixels on the screen, which translates to clearer pictures.

[bubble.tea]

what the heck is faroudja? Such an Arab name. It's almost deliciously enticing.

[sonick]

http://www.av-outlet.com/images/help/dcdi-flag.jpg

http://www.av-outlet.com/en-us/dept_335.html

[Jon Lai]

http://www.av-outlet.com/images/help/dcdi-flag.jpg

http://www.av-outlet.com/en-us/dept_335.html

Thanks bud, any chance we can show an example of a Canadian flag instead? XP

[JT94]

Is there a need for the Faroudja chipset if the LCD is connected directly to an upconverting DVD player?

[sonick]

It would still be helpful because the upconverting player is likely outputting 720p or 1080i (or even maybe 1080p), which is not the native resolution of the LCD and thus would benefit from Faroudja when it is being rescaled.

Only when you are feeding it a signal in its native resolution (eg. from a computer) will its faroudja chip be unused.

[Jon Lai]

It would still be helpful because the upconverting player is likely outputting 720p or 1080i (or even maybe 1080p), which is not the native resolution of the LCD and thus would benefit from Faroudja when it is being rescaled.

Only when you are feeding it a signal in its native resolution (eg. from a computer) will its faroudja chip be unused.

True. However, most people don't use their monitors solely for outputting computer signals anymore anyways. That's also why there are 2x component inputs, which is a definate plus, especially for those people that have home theater systems set up in their computer room.

[Jon Lai]

:arrowu:

[TenzoR]

Unless someone comes out with a 24"+ higher resolution panel that's not limited to dual-link connection (e.g. 3007FPW) I doubt I'll bother, but that's just me

[FuNT]

so does this mean gamecube/wii won't look so ugly anymore?

[ullyeus]

True. However, most people don't use their monitors solely for outputting computer signals anymore anyways. That's also why there are 2x component inputs, which is a definate plus, especially for those people that have home theater systems set up in their computer room.


I would disagree and say most people still do use it just for outputting computer signals.

[johnwayne]

According to the manual, the display cannot do 1080p using DVI...

[Jon Lai]

Unless someone comes out with a 24"+ higher resolution panel that's not limited to DVI-D connection (e.g. 3007FPW) I doubt I'll bother, but that's just me

What's wrong with DVI-D connection?

According to the manual, the display cannot do 1080p using DVI...

Really?

But if you're using it for TV, you might as well use component..

[TenzoR]

What's wrong with DVI-D connection?


sorry I meant dual link :D

[felix]

That's nice. I'll wait till they come down in price before my next upgrade. :)

[CanadaBoy]

Thought that there hasn't been much good 24" competitors? Another one has arrived!

Just released from Gateway, this beauty includes the FAROUDJA CHIPSET! Honestly I've been looking at the 21" model of this LCD for a good half of 2006 but hated the fact that it was so small. When I saw it before on Futureshop, it's image quality was spectacular.

Now that they have a 24" version avaliable, I'm going to be all over this.

http://www.gateway.com/img/prod/large/mntr_FPD2485W_large.jpg

Cosmetically it's the same as the 21" model.

Gateway website:
http://accessories.gateway.com/AccessoryStore/PC+Accessories_316441/Monitors_316684/LCD+_Q1_Flat+Panel_Q1_+Monitors_316694/22_PL1_+inch+LCD_381956/1540522R_ProdDetail?seg=hm

Some specs:
# 1920x1200 resolution
# 1000:1 contrast ratio
# 6ms response time
# Picture-in-picture

IMO if we compare specs to Dell 24", they're mostly the same, EXCEPT this one has dual component input, so it can also serve as a TV as well, AND the fact that it has the FAROUDJA CHIPSET! Yes, I'm really a fan of Faroudja, but if you've seen Faroudja, you'll love it too.

However, Dell's lowest price is $699...

This baby retails in the states for $679.99US... and I just saw it at Futureshop today for $799.99!!

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10081342&catid=22335

Considering how Futureshop always puts on a big margin, I don't doubt that it can match Dell's price, which is only $100 away.

I was eyeing the Dell before, but now I'll eye this. Anyone else with me?

Review:
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,2078856,00.asp?kc=ETRSS02129TX1K0000532

FS did match Dell's price of $699, just check the link :D

[CanadaBoy]

Reviews from FS:

Well worth the price, 1/16/2007
Reviewer: Ieronim, Montreal, QC
This is a stunning computer monitor that does double duty as a full HDTV 1080p monitor. In addition to DVI and VGA inputs, it also has two sets of component in, one S-Video and one composite video. Future Shop neglects to mention any of these video inputsIt also has a 4-port USB hub built in. It has the best picture quality of any LCD monitor I've seen so far. A bit bright for regular computer use, perfect for moviesgames.The only thing that's missing is a remote control. But it's primarily a computer monitor, rightHighly recommended.

Blows my mind I love this screen., 1/16/2007
Reviewer: Steve R, North York Ontario
I just picked this up a few night ago from the keele and St Clair location. It looks absolutely amazing watching rogers HD on it. The menu system is cool with nice sounds during navigation. The rotation and total adjustability of the stand is great. No auto rotation in windows 2003, besides that it's almost perfect.

[Jon Lai]

FS did match Dell's price of $699, just check the link :D

My post was posted last week, FS's sale price just started today.

[Jon Lai]

That's nice. I'll wait till they come down in price before my next upgrade. :)

The price has already come down. It's on sale this week for $699. The decrease in price came earlier than I expected.

[CanadaBoy]

Are you going to buy it, Jon Lai?

[Jon Lai]

Are you going to buy it, Jon Lai?

I'm actually thinking of "borrowing" it from Futureshop this weekend and see if I can justify the cost. Might fix you guys up on a review if I have time, but a hard thing is, I don't have a Dell 24" to compare with :(

[rei]

This thing's gone from the FS website now?

[felix]

This was on dell.ca?? I was looking for this during the past dell coupon mishap. I could have had 40% off the entire website including TV's and monitors on sale >:(