What can cause it to lose control/back end spin out?

[bembol]

It happened twice on a Yield, right turn lane...the ground was lightly wet. I don't think I was over 30km...

Next thing I somewhat lost control, I think the back end gave up.

I'm running winters (Kumho's KW11) on my RSX, it's the third year. Also it's lowered on Eback ProKit's and OEM Shocks with 153k/kms. Could this be it? I forgot I also I upgrade the Front & Rear Sways bars (Eibach) and Neuspeed Front Tower Strut Bar.

The tire pressure seems fine, I'm guessing but the thread is half way?...it hasn't happened since but I'm being more careful on yields.

Any ideas. Thanks!

[gman]

It happened twice on a Yield, right turn lane...the ground was lightly wet. I don't think I was over 30km...

Next thing I somewhat lost control, I think the back end gave up.

I'm running winters (Kumho's KW11) on my RSX, it's the third year. Also it's lowered on Eback ProKit's and OEM Shocks with 153k/kms. Could this be it? I forgot I also I upgrade the Front & Rear Sways bars (Eibach) and Neuspeed Front Tower Strut Bar.

The tire pressure seems fine, I'm guessing but the thread is half way?...it hasn't happened since but I'm being more careful on yields.

Any ideas. Thanks!

Front tires have more traction than the rear pair?

[TenzoR]

you are not takumi ?

or it could be that your tires are worn or you are going too fast

[Edgeware]

It's most likely you braking while turning so you upset the balance of the car. Do all your braking in a straight line, get down to a reasonable speed and then turn in. If you do that I suspect you won't have any problems anymore.

[iGarage]

try removing one end link from the rear sway bar
it will help alot in the snow and wet weather

[DragonZealot]

try removing one end link from the rear sway bar
it will help alot in the snow and wet weather

Are you sure?? This is equivalent to removing the (anti-)sway bar.

I thought sway bar is good and bigger sway bar is better.

[Stock R]

Probably a driving style issue.

If you brake in a corner as brought up before, the front end becomes heavy and the rear end lightens up, loses traction, and swings around.

The same can happen if you were on the throttle (rear is loaded) and you lift off the throttle (or press on the brakes).

If you upset the balance, you will lose control.

Also check the tread wear on the back tires.

[EscaBoi]

you said you're driving on winters, and the road was wet (as in rain), so that's possibly it. I was driving on winters temporarily this summer before i picked up a new set of tires. In the rain the traction was horrible.

could also be that you're braking really hard as you yield

[kmltick]

Are you sure?? This is equivalent to removing the (anti-)sway bar.

I thought sway bar is good and bigger sway bar is better.

Increasing the size/stiffness of the rear swaybar will shift the weight bias to the rear of the car. Removing an endlink would be equivalent to removing the rear sway bar, and effectively shift the weight bias forward and make you understeer. I wouldn't recommend removing the endlink, but rather adjust your driving style according to your suspension setup.

Did you get a full alignment after you lowered your car? If you lowered it a lot then you may may have camber issues (which also means the tires have a smaller contact patch)

[cereal83]

I have no clue how you drive and spin out. I have heard of when you hit the brakes in snow, the back end will slide out but I thought that was just normal.

I mean I have been doing 60 and slammed the brakes and went right sideways in a friends Neon but a similar thing has happened in an Intrepid also.

I saw have somebody look over you car to make sure it is safe to drive in the winter.

[warpdrive]

There could be many causes of this.

- your rear tires have less traction than your fronts. You are mixing tires or your rear tires are more worn. Very common.
- Your lowered suspension is causing bump steer, causing the rear to bottom out and losing traction.
- driving style, trail braking can cause oversteer
- sway bars too stiff in the wrong end. If the rears are too stiff, this can cause massive oversteer.
- various alignment issues, for example, your lowered suspension has too much camber rear wheels.

[GangStarr]

might have something to do with all those rice aftermarket parts.

[ElChico]

Too much down force on the front wing. Add a little more to the rear and you should be okay.

[enko]

might have something to do with all those rice aftermarket parts.

+1

Sorry to say, your car most likely handles like ****. Just slapping on after market parts doesn't necessarily improve your handling.

Get an alignment, and your rear sway bar is probably too stiff.

[Ferrari]

Too much down force on the front wing. Add a little more to the rear and you should be okay.

So true...

[bionicbadger]

driving too fast for the road conditions

[eelfliw]

The slide is due to a combination of 3 things : poor aftermarket components, light rear end and bad driving skills.

The lowered and stiffer springs plus name brand but useless shocks and thick sway bars kills handling. These after market parts are only good if you fine tune it's size/rate after extensive track testing and drive your cars on the track. For public road use, you're just asking for trouble.

Also, put a few concrete blocks (appx 60 - 80 lbs) in your trunk. This will help rear traction.

Finally, try taking some performance driving courses. Drive a few rear-engined cars and you're learn pretty quickly never brake hard into corners. The 911s are notorious for fishtailing. You need to power out of corners instead of brake into it.