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joshmxpx
Jan 1st, 2007, 05:15 PM
Is it worth it to get component cables for the PS2?

I saw a set at EB for $15 and almost bought them. How many games are in HD for PS2?

Also, when I play games like Shadow of the Colossus on my 56" HD-TV, there are a lot of jaggies, would component cables reduce this at all?

Thanks

n1ghts0ul
Jan 1st, 2007, 05:21 PM
i got a s-video cable for my ps2 long time ago
there is a significance difference between that and a-v cables. Everything looks a lot smoother and rendered better, i could never go back to playing on normal av cables. Since component is better than s-video, it should be a lot better compared to AV.

Talamasca
Jan 1st, 2007, 09:04 PM
No games for the PS2 are in HD, but there are several that support widescreen and/or progressive scan (480p). A component cable is required for progressive scan. Even on games that don't support either of these, a component cable will still improve the picture quality. I ordered my cables on eBay (coming any day now!) for a lot less than what the stores charge.

.EE.
Jan 1st, 2007, 09:15 PM
Actually there are HD games on PS2. Gran Turismo 4 is an example - can run at 1080i.

Component cables are definitely worth it...even if you're not using progressive scan. The graphics are much more sharp (not blended) and the text is a lot easier to read.

joshmxpx
Jan 2nd, 2007, 10:13 AM
Thanks guys, guess I'll be picking some up then.

rfdghost
Jan 2nd, 2007, 10:52 PM
better off getting the sony branded ones, $29.99 @ the sonystore. using them with my ps3 right now.

lol, just read the rest of your post, i'm also playing through shadow of the collosus as well. on #7 or 8 right now. it will double the horzontal resolution and eliminate sone jaggies not all.

joshmxpx
Jan 2nd, 2007, 11:16 PM
better off getting the sony branded ones, $29.99 @ the sonystore. using them with my ps3 right now.

lol, just read the rest of your post, i'm also playing through shadow of the collosus as well. on #7 or 8 right now. it will double the horzontal resolution and eliminate sone jaggies not all.

I'd rather spend of a third of the price and get non-branded cables. All cables are basically the same, especially simple component cables anyway, all you're really paying for is the unique adapter on the end.

Kurtz7834
Jan 3rd, 2007, 09:44 AM
The $15 Gamestop ones at EB Games are a great deal, decent gauge and supports PS2 / PS3 / XBox / 360. You can pay more than double for the Sony ones but there's no point IMHO.

Component cables make a huge diff. on the PS2. The colours are much brighter and the colour bleed will be gone. Text will be much easier to read for RPG fans. Flicker and interference is greatly reduced.

The PS2 and Gamecube come with very poor quality composite cables out of the box. The best I could do for my Cube was a $10 multi system S Video cable.

I was really unhappy with my PS2's output until I switched to component. I am using standard def.

Component will NOT get rid of 'jaggies' though, since the picture is clearer you will notice more defined jaggies. But this is expected since you are using 7 year old technology.

Talamasca
Jan 3rd, 2007, 10:17 AM
better off getting the sony branded ones, $29.99 @ the sonystore. using them with my ps3 right now.

It's a shame that Sony didn't bother to throw in component cables for the PS3. Proclaiming yourself as the most powerful and advanced gaming system of all time but providing cheap composite cables was low. I bet lots of people out there who aren't HD-savvy will keep playing using these cables and wonder why their picture doesn't look as good as the setups in the store.

I didn't know that some PS2 games were 1080i capable, even if it's just a few. They really managed to push that system to its limit!

.EE.
Jan 3rd, 2007, 01:34 PM
An even better deal than the $15 GameStop cables at EB Games are the Intec gold-plated ones available at BlockBuster for $15.

They are definitely a better quality build with gold connections. You'll have to look around though...not all BlockBusters Gamerush departments will have them.

joshmxpx
Jan 3rd, 2007, 07:30 PM
The $15 Gamestop ones at EB Games are a great deal, decent gauge and supports PS2 / PS3 / XBox / 360. You can pay more than double for the Sony ones but there's no point IMHO.

Component cables make a huge diff. on the PS2. The colours are much brighter and the colour bleed will be gone. Text will be much easier to read for RPG fans. Flicker and interference is greatly reduced.

The PS2 and Gamecube come with very poor quality composite cables out of the box. The best I could do for my Cube was a $10 multi system S Video cable.

I was really unhappy with my PS2's output until I switched to component. I am using standard def.

Component will NOT get rid of 'jaggies' though, since the picture is clearer you will notice more defined jaggies. But this is expected since you are using 7 year old technology.

Those are exactly the ones I was looking at. I will pick them up now, for sure.


While we're on the topic, here is another question:

What difference will the toslink output make? I am just running the sound in stereo right now. The only problem is that my amp has only one toslink input, which is being used by my 360, and the coax dig input is being used by my dvd player. I guess I'll need a switch if I decide to use it.

Is there a lot of games that are in digital sound? Or is more like pro logic for all the games?

Thanks

Talamasca
Jan 4th, 2007, 12:47 AM
According to www.dolby.com:

Most Sony® PlayStation® 2 games use Dolby Pro Logic II exclusively. This is because the PlayStation 2 cannot process interactive Dolby Digital during game play. Some games, however, may feature select cinematics in Dolby Digital. Since all home theater receivers with Dolby Pro Logic II are also equipped with Dolby Digital, you'll hear 5.1-channel surround sound no matter what Dolby technologies are supported.

I don't know which games have 5.1 cinematics though. If you use your PS2 as your DVD player, an optical cable would be necessary to output 5.1 sound. But since you already have a dedicated DVD player (and the X360), this is a moot point. So I wouldn't bother with the optical cable for the PS2.

Rosico
Jan 4th, 2007, 02:57 PM
do people know if the early ps2's (early fatty ones) supported 480p? I have the sony component cables and playing GoW and all I can muster is 480i.

Might have to upgrade once the price drops even more ;)

Waiwai
Jan 4th, 2007, 03:08 PM
do people know if the early ps2's (early fatty ones) supported 480p? I have the sony component cables and playing GoW and all I can muster is 480i.

Might have to upgrade once the price drops even more ;)

Yes, even the old ones do (mine was bought in 2000). Simply change the settings at the beginning. Turn on the system with no disc, settings, and change the input type (I forget what wording they used specifically) to Component and reset.

Although, I don't remember having to do that for mine when I got component cables, it auto-detected it somehow.

AlphaTwo
Jan 4th, 2007, 07:16 PM
Yes, even the old ones do (mine was bought in 2000). Simply change the settings at the beginning. Turn on the system with no disc, settings, and change the input type (I forget what wording they used specifically) to Component and reset.

Although, I don't remember having to do that for mine when I got component cables, it auto-detected it somehow.However, some games also require you to manually adjust it per game. As an example: Guitar Hero 2's progressive scan is not automatic even with component setup on the system menu.