*OFFICIAL* RFD Motorcycle thread , discussion, schools, licensing & stuff

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

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RFD Motorcycle pics, discussion, schools, licensing & group rides thread

Like my thread? subscribe to it! as I post rides sometimes daily or weekly during the riding season!
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Pictures:
pics from group rides and stuff are randomly scattered throughout this thread, I try to keep this post updated as to where they are located. Latest pics from latest rides are on the furthest page
so far page 7, 10, 11, 13, 14, 17, 18


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For those with motorcycles, who wants to go for a group ride?! just post when and where! that way we can have an official RFD group ride!
I try to post here too when there's a group ride/event!

They took away my ownership of my official G1/G2/G licensing thread, all I have is this one =/
anywho yeahh its motorcycle time! We'll show my ex-thread who's better! rawr!


Motorcycle Schools (review/comments)
I went to RTI, it was great, they have free re-testing, I didn't need to re-test since I got 100% perfecto cause I am AzN_RiverdaleCI!!!!!!!!!!!
I totally recommend it.

Humber: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9083058&postcount=78
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9111393&postcount=91

Centennial is also great: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9096860&postcount=79

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Beginner Motorcycles:
- Honda CBR 125R
- Kawasaki Ninja 250R
- Kawasaki Ninja 500R
- Suzuki GS500F/Suzuki GS500

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good useful posts/reads:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9145441&postcount=98
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9243352&postcount=114
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9245716&postcount=115
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9391316&postcount=194
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/official-rfd-motorcycle-thread-discussion-schools-licensing-stuff-386235/16/
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/official-rfd-motorcycle-thread-discussion-schools-licensing-stuff-386235/17/

===============ORIGINAL POST (below)===============

hi, most of you know me as the person who created the official G1,G2, and G questions thread, I started this thread because I got so impatient waiting for my 8 months to get G2.

Anyways quote the mto website here (http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/lsm.htm#graduated)
it says under m1:
# Level One lasts a minimum of 60 days
# M1 licence is valid for 90 days

So if I see and understand correctly, I can try for my M2 in approx 2 months? IS THIS FOR REAL? cause if it is, thats like a teenagers dream come true. Cause like thats sick, in approx 2 months after you get your M1 (provided you passed M2 right away) you can friken drive on the highway with a passenger with your full-speed motorcycle, that is so cool i cant believe i didnt know that. Here I am waiting 8 months for my G2 just so I can drive by myself without getting yelled at by parents. When all along, I could've got an M1 and drove by myself.

Long story short, my question is, is that true that after I get my M1, approx 2 months later, I can go for my M2, and then drive on the highway and carry a passenger with a full-speed motorcycle?

Also, where can I buy/rent a full-speed motorcycle? cause I have no experience with motorcycles at all. I just plan to use the full-speed motorcycle for the tests so I get the actual M1/M2 license without the L condition. I just want to drive a moped/limited speed motorcycle. But want to use a full-speed motorcycle when I get older.

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[techwiz]

Yes, it is possible to get your M2 in 2 months - I did this back in August.

First, you need to go get your M1 by writing the written test at the Drivetest centre. Then, the easiest way to get your M2 is to do a Motorcycle Training Course (done in two days, usually a weekend). By completing that course, you will receive the paperwork to upgrade your license to M2.

I did my course at RTI (http://www.ridertraining.ca). You can also check out GTAMotorcycle.ca (http://www.gtamotorcycle.ca) for more info. :cheesygri


BTW, you do not need your own bike to do the tests - they are provided in the course. However, you need to bring your own helmet/gear. ;)

[manho]

i don't have a bike (nor did i ride a bike since I got my M2 from RTI), and I need to do my M before it expires (in a year or two - i forgot), is there anyway to do it without owning a bike? I noticed most schools require students having their own bike for the M graduation license

[D-3vil]

So if I see and understand correctly, I can try for my M2 in approx 2 months? IS THIS FOR REAL? cause if it is, thats like a teenagers dream come true.
In fact, you can do the RTI training course (highly recommended, I did it as well a couple of years back) before your 2 months pass, and can bring the papers to an MTO licensing office once your 60 days are up.

Cause like thats sick, in approx 2 months after you get your M1 (provided you passed M2 right away) you can friken drive on the highway with a passenger with your full-speed motorcycle, that is so cool i cant believe i didnt know that.
Spoken like a true teenager. I don't want to rain on your parade, but riding a motorcycle is a much bigger responsibility (to yourself) than driving a car. As for carrying a passenger, you will need time to refine your riding skills before you can handle the added difficulty.

Long story short, my question is, is that true that after I get my M1, approx 2 months later, I can go for my M2, and then drive on the highway and carry a passenger with a full-speed motorcycle?
Please, for your sake and your passenger's, postpone this thought until you've had time to improve your riding skills. How much time is up to you, but it will likely not be faster than waiting for your G2.

Also, where can I buy/rent a full-speed motorcycle? cause I have no experience with motorcycles at all. I just plan to use the full-speed motorcycle for the tests so I get the actual M1/M2 license without the L condition. I just want to drive a moped/limited speed motorcycle. But want to use a full-speed motorcycle when I get older.
Your training course will include a motorcycle at no extra cost. I forgot how much the course is, but it's offered at a few places, including RTI and Humber.


i don't have a bike (nor did i ride a bike since I got my M2 from RTI), and I need to do my M before it expires (in a year or two - i forgot), is there anyway to do it without owning a bike? I noticed most schools require students having their own bike for the M graduation license
I'm almost in the same situation as you, got my M2 2 years ago. However, I'm planning to purchase a bike this coming summer (graduation present to myself, w00t!). If I wasn't, I would almost consider letting the license lapse, as it wouldn't be a big deal to get it all back (probably cheaper that way too, compared to renting a bike and taking the test, then getting all the refresher courses when you do purchase your own bike).

[mrlooneytoon]

Nice advice techwiz and d3vil!

I find that if you have your G2 and have driven around a bit then riding a bike (in terms of rules or road) will be a lot easier.

I assume you both have bikes already or have had at some point?
What bikes did you start with/end up with?

[MadCow]

Rididng a motorcycle is a big responsibility. It's fun, yes, but it's also a risk. The first thing I learnt in the Motorcycle Training Course is the types of dangers associated with riding a motorcycle. The instructors wanted to share this type of information to anyone who thought that this type of hobby was just for going fast and doing crazy isht. If you can accept the risks and the dangers and still want to ride, then welcome to the sport!

Obtaining your M1 is just like obtaining your G1--you take a written test. It's a longer test, because you have to complete the G1 pamphlet AND another pamphlet that is strictly motorcycle questions.

Once you've passed your M1, you receive a paper license (on that temporary license sheet) that expires in 90 days. After 60 days have passed, you are able to obtain your M2; either through taking the test with the Ministry of Transportation, or through one of the Motorcycle Training Courses (MSF) at some colleges. Humber, Sheridan, RTI, and some others offer this program.

Once you obtain your M2, you'll finally get a card license in the mail. If you have any of the G licenses at the same time, this new card will replace that as well. Your licence type will say something like G1M2 or G2M2 or GM2. This license will expire after 5 years. You can take the M2 exit test to obtain your M one year after you've received your M2 (8 months, if you've completed the training course).

i don't have a bike (nor did i ride a bike since I got my M2 from RTI), and I need to do my M before it expires (in a year or two - i forgot), is there anyway to do it without owning a bike? I noticed most schools require students having their own bike for the M graduation license

Some schools that offer the Motorcycle Training Course also do the M2 exit test for your M license. I believe RTI is one of them, but I haven't confirmed it yet.

[D-3vil]

Nice advice techwiz and d3vil!

I find that if you have your G2 and have driven around a bit then riding a bike (in terms of rules or road) will be a lot easier.

I assume you both have bikes already or have had at some point?
What bikes did you start with/end up with?
I've been riding bikes on and off since I was 10 (started with a small 50cc), but I've been on hiatus these past few (or rather, many) years. I'm planning to get back into it this summer, but my choice of a bike is pretty open: BMW 650GS, Honda Shadow 750, SV650

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

first let me thank techwiz, D-3vil, and MadCow for their useful contributions to this thread and giving it a boost. But i'd especially like to thank D-3vil for his bit

"Spoken like a true teenager. I don't want to rain on your parade, but riding a motorcycle is a much bigger responsibility (to yourself) than driving a car. As for carrying a passenger, you will need time to refine your riding skills before you can handle the added difficulty."

that just made my day, it makes me as a teenager feel welcomed and not hated upon in a forum designed mostly for adults that are pro. Also I like how he quotes bits of my post and nicely seperates them so I can see what I said and his reply.

Quote MadCow "because you have to complete the G1 pamphlet AND another pamphlet that is strictly motorcycle questions."

is the motorcycle questions easy? cause if its not then that makes M1 hard to obtain for me.

Quote MadCow again "You can take the M2 exit test to obtain your M one year after you've received your M2 (8 months, if you've completed the training course)."

I thought i read on the mto site somewhere it said 22 months, 18 months with training course. Did you mix up M2 exit with G2 exit?

Also, not quite clear on this, you do your M1 at a drivetest place, and you can do your M2 at a school in this case. RTI? so you get ur M2 License and stuff at this RTI place?

Quote Techwiz "However, you need to bring your own helmet/gear."

Ok, where can I buy a motorcycle helmet and how much? Also what other gear do you need? I thought all you need is a helmet since motorcycle is provided.

Also, are motorcycles cheaper than cars? also how is their insurance? cause I cant afford insurance on a car myself, so i was thinking of getting a motorcycle.

Could someone please list the price of a decent motorcycle and the monthly insurance costs for it as a teenager. Thanks!

[techwiz]

I assume you both have bikes already or have had at some point?
What bikes did you start with/end up with?

I don't have a bike yet as I just got my M2 in August, but I will consider getting one next year. I will probably get a Ninja.


Quote MadCow "because you have to complete the G1 pamphlet AND another pamphlet that is strictly motorcycle questions."

is the motorcycle questions easy? cause if its not then that makes M1 hard to obtain for me.

I wouldn't say that they are too hard - as long as you go over the Motorcycle handbook, you should be okay. The 20 or so questions covers the things every motorcycle rider should know, so I'd say it's pretty important that you don't do too poorly.


Quote MadCow again "You can take the M2 exit test to obtain your M one year after you've received your M2 (8 months, if you've completed the training course)."

I thought i read on the mto site somewhere it said 22 months, 18 months with training course. Did you mix up M2 exit with G2 exit?

I think he must have mixed up the two, as I'm pretty sure it's longer than 8-12 months.


Also, not quite clear on this, you do your M1 at a drivetest place, and you can do your M2 at a school in this case. RTI? so you get ur M2 License and stuff at this RTI place?

After completing and passing the course, they will give you an envelope to bring to the Drivetest place to upgrade your M1 to an M2. They are basically doing the testing as part of the course.


Quote Techwiz "However, you need to bring your own helmet/gear."

Ok, where can I buy a motorcycle helmet and how much? Also what other gear do you need? I thought all you need is a helmet since motorcycle is provided.

Aside from the helmet, you will also need gloves, boots, jeans, leather/jean jacket. I actually rented my helmet from Parker Brothers for the course - I think it was only $25, and you get a $25 credit towards the purchase of a new helmet upon returning it. Check here (http://ridertraining.ca/resources.html) for links to stores.


Also, are motorcycles cheaper than cars? also how is their insurance? cause I cant afford insurance on a car myself, so i was thinking of getting a motorcycle.

Could someone please list the price of a decent motorcycle and the monthly insurance costs for it as a teenager. Thanks!

Can't really answer the last part as I haven't reached that stage yet, however, I think it is around the same as a car. A decent used bike can be had for about $5000, and insurance is around $3000/yr. You can get some quotes at Kanetix.ca (http://www.kanetix.ca). You might want to also consider not being able to ride during the winter season when comparing those numbers to driving a car.

[MadCow]

I apologize, I did mix up the number of months you need to wait to obtain your M. You're correct about the 22-month and 18-month interval.

As for insurance, Statefarm seems to be the only company that does not charge a sport bike penalty. However, to insure you motorcycle with Statefarm, you need to also insure a car with them as well. I was once told that you can get insurance with Statefarm if you have both their life insurance and motorcycle insurance, but I'm not too sure on that.

Some bikes that don't carry a sport bike surcharge with insurance companies include:

Suzuki GS500
Suzuki Katana
Suzuki SV650 (I think)
Kawasaki Ninja 250 & 500

The first year you pay for insurance is always going to be fairly high. You can expect a 17 to 24-year old to pay anywhere between $2000+ per year. Many people have said that you get a significant discount in your second year, as long as you did not receive any tickets prior. Of course, the 25-year old discount also applies for motorcycle riders.

Kinetix isn't really a great place to find a quote, because they don't deal with many companies that offer motorcycle insurance. The best way to find out how much you will pay is to call up some insruance companies with a list of bikes you would like to get, or find a broker that can help you out.

[nwmrkt]

good advice guys, the minimum age requirement for M1 is 16 right? During the time you have gotten your M1 you are allowed to practice on the roads as like a G1 right? What restrictions are on the M1? And when you go for your M2 do they provide a Motorcycle for you?

Thanks

[D-3vil]

hehe... small world, I actually rented my helmet from Parker Bros Motorsports as well when I took the RTI course. I think they're the only ones in the Toronto area that will do rentals. Helmet was (almost) new, and I ended up buying a helmet upon returning the rental. I actually recommend you rent first, as that will help you discover what to look for in a helmet.

Aside from the helmet, you'll also need to bring leather gloves and proper riding attire (RTI's website has a pretty good descriptions of everything needed, www.ridertraining.ca)

As far as insurance is concerned, I suggest heading over to www.gtamotorcycle.com, the forum is filled with good info about where to find cheap insurance. While your car insurance company may insure motorcycles as well, chances are they'll do so for pretty high premiums.

One misconception is that it's cheaper to ride a bike than to own a car. I believe it's the other way around. The initial investment is higher for a motorcycle (gotta buy the bike, gear, higher initial insurance etc), but the maintenance costs are likely higher for a car. But when you consider that you can use the car all-year round, it's a more attractive option.

[MadCow]

good advice guys, the minimum age requirement for M1 is 16 right? During the time you have gotten your M1 you are allowed to practice on the roads as like a G1 right? What restrictions are on the M1? And when you go for your M2 do they provide a Motorcycle for you?

Thanks

Restrictions include:
-your blood alcohol level must be zero;
-you must ride only during daylight hours (1/2 hour before sunrise to 1/2 hour after sunset);
-you must not ride on highways with speed limits of more than 80 km/h except highways 11, 17, 61, 69, 71, 101, 102, 144, 655;
-you cannot carry passengers. Parker Bros is a great place to rent a helmet, as well as purchase your gear from. They have plenty of friendly and knowledgeable staff. The cost of renting a helmet is about $30, and if you decide to buy a helmet from them afterwards, that amount is credited to your purchase.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

everyone seems to be saying that Parker Bros is a good place. so I will check that out.

and wow its so much more expensive to insure a motorcycle, i thought it would be cheaper.

Is it cheaper to insure a LSM like the one below:

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/vehicle/emerging/image/limited-speed.jpg

[CSR]

Psst, try the quote button at the bottom right hand corner.. :twisted:


Btw, check out GTAmotorcycle.com, it's a great resource and people know their stuff there.

first let me thank techwiz, D-3vil, and MadCow for their useful contributions to this thread and giving it a boost. But i'd especially like to thank D-3vil for his bit

"Spoken like a true teenager. I don't want to rain on your parade, but riding a motorcycle is a much bigger responsibility (to yourself) than driving a car. As for carrying a passenger, you will need time to refine your riding skills before you can handle the added difficulty."

that just made my day, it makes me as a teenager feel welcomed and not hated upon in a forum designed mostly for adults that are pro. Also I like how he quotes bits of my post and nicely seperates them so I can see what I said and his reply.

Quote MadCow "because you have to complete the G1 pamphlet AND another pamphlet that is strictly motorcycle questions."

is the motorcycle questions easy? cause if its not then that makes M1 hard to obtain for me.

Quote MadCow again "You can take the M2 exit test to obtain your M one year after you've received your M2 (8 months, if you've completed the training course)."

I thought i read on the mto site somewhere it said 22 months, 18 months with training course. Did you mix up M2 exit with G2 exit?

Also, not quite clear on this, you do your M1 at a drivetest place, and you can do your M2 at a school in this case. RTI? so you get ur M2 License and stuff at this RTI place?

Quote Techwiz "However, you need to bring your own helmet/gear."

Ok, where can I buy a motorcycle helmet and how much? Also what other gear do you need? I thought all you need is a helmet since motorcycle is provided.

Also, are motorcycles cheaper than cars? also how is their insurance? cause I cant afford insurance on a car myself, so i was thinking of getting a motorcycle.

Could someone please list the price of a decent motorcycle and the monthly insurance costs for it as a teenager. Thanks!

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

so I looked on the drivetest website and I was dissapointed how all the Toronto locations offer only LM1 and or LM2's no M1 or M2. that sucks.

edit: also my question on page 1 was unanswered, Is it cheaper to insure a limited speed motorcycle? gimme a guestimated price per year.

edit: Where can I rent motorcycles/LSM's after I get my M2? prices?

[bunga]

for those interested in getting a bike, be prepared for the initial outlay in cash, even getting an old beater is far from cheap

sure the bike might cost you $1500 for something that's twenty years old and in rough shape, but then on top of that you have to pay for gear (~$500-1000 to get you started) as well as a full years of insurance before you can start riding

you also have to be prepared that as a beginner, there is a very very high chance that you will crash, just due to how much mental and physical activity is involved with riding a bike, there is a huge learning curve involved, even after you've passed the course

getting past that, riding is one of the most enjoyable things you can do and definitely a great way to commute

[MadCow]

so I looked on the drivetest website and I was dissapointed how all the Toronto locations offer only LM1 and or LM2's no M1 or M2. that sucks.

edit: also my question on page 1 was unanswered, Is it cheaper to insure a limited speed motorcycle? gimme a guestimated price per year.

edit: Where can I rent motorcycles/LSM's after I get my M2? prices?

Insurance companies base your premium on the size of the motorcycle's engine. In this case, limited-speed motorcycles would be cheaper to insure in general. It would all depend on the engine size you plan to go with (50cc to 250cc). You can still expect to pay upwards to $2000 in insurance for the first year, though.

There are places that rent motorcycles, but the only ones I've seen rent the high-end sportbikes. These are the places that also rent exotic cars, and you can expect to pay quite a bit for a bike that's been used and abused so you can do the same yourself. Many of the exotic car rental places you can find in the yellow pages would rent out motorcycles.

[sibermage]

www.gtamotorcycle.com (http://www.gtamotorcycle.com)

Lots of information there as well.

[mrcantrell]

This kid must be rich, rich, rich!! I think he way underestimates how much getting on a bike costs, I'd say my first year cost me around $10,000, and that was with a 6 year old bike, and minimal insurance.

The biggest favour you can do yourself is to drive a car before you get onto a bike. I logged well over 100,000kms before I got on a bike for the first time, and I can tell you, it's a whole other ball game. You don't have time to think about what's going on around you, you need to be constantly reacting. Cagers have no respect for motorcycles, and you are constantly pulling yourself out of dangerous situations... there's an old rider saying that goes "Completely invisable and silent as a mouse" because the #1 thing you hear from a cager that just hit motorcyclest is "I didn't see it."

Granted there is absolutely nothing on earth like going out for a ride on a Sunday morning and you will absolutely love it, just wait until you've got a few years of driving a cage under your belt before you start riding.

And for your own sake, always always always (I can't say it enough) wear your gear, and I mean all of your gear, not just your helmet, all your leathers. I don't mean a Danier fancy jacket, I mean real motorcycle leather, because there's a HUGE difference.

Don't be a Squid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squid_%28motorcycle%29). And when you got to GTAMotorcycles.com make sure to stop by the "Fallen Riders" forum.

[nwmrkt]

where are the locations where you can obtain your M1 ,M2 and so on?
Thanks

[techwiz]

where are the locations where you can obtain your M1 ,M2 and so on?
Thanks

Here is a list of all the DriveTest Centres and which tests they offer:
http://www.drivetest.ca/en/loc/Dec.aspx

As mentioned earlier, your M2 testing can be done at a Motorcycle Training Course.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

I totally forgot about this thread I made, I guess I just left it because the questions were answered and there were no questions left. But anyways I now have more questions.

http://i18.tinypic.com/2d8jn69.jpg
K, so I looked on the drivetest website and it says LM1, so does that mean I do the written test at that center and I can only get a LM1 license?

Also, what discouraged me from wanting to drive a full-speed motorcycle was the clothing you have to buy, cause you have to wear special clothing, and I do not want to wear those clothing just so i can drive a full-speed motorcycle. So my question is, if I drive a limited-speed motorcycle, am I allowed to wear my normal clothes? or do I still have to wear that special motorcycle clothing?

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

bump, come on, help an RFD-er out!

[bunga]

LM is a restricted use motorcycle license allowing you to ride a scooter only, you still have to pass the same m1 and m2 testing though as if you would for a motorcycle so I'm not quite sure what the point is.

Also you don't need anything special for either a scooter or a motorcycle besides a DOT approved helmet. Definitely not a bad idea to buy some motorcycle specific clothing though for either case, but not legally neccessary. In the summer you'll see many an idiot riding a 1000cc bike in a tank top and flip flops, and a helmet of course.

[techwiz]

Also, what discouraged me from wanting to drive a full-speed motorcycle was the clothing you have to buy, cause you have to wear special clothing, and I do not want to wear those clothing just so i can drive a full-speed motorcycle. So my question is, if I drive a limited-speed motorcycle, am I allowed to wear my normal clothes? or do I still have to wear that special motorcycle clothing?

I think the L condition is only applied to M2 and M licenses, where you will get the L condition added to your license if you complete the M1 exit test on a limited-speed motorcycle. (You might be able to get it added on your M1, but I'm not sure and I don't think it would make much of a difference).

You don't have to wear motorcycle gear while riding a full-speed motorcycle, but it is strongly recommended (in case you fall). I don't think anybody is stopping you from wearing normal clothing on a limited-speed or full-speed motorcycle - I mean, I have seen people riding in t-shirts before. But just think about what would happen if and when they fall - would you rather fall in protective gear, or fall in your bare skin? The choice is yours. If you take a motorcycle safety course, they will discuss about this in the 3hr classroom session.

With that said, you still have to wear full motorcycle gear when doing the motorcycle training courses, limited speed or not.

[bunga]

actually for doing the course, most places only require a jean or leather jacket, jeans, gloves, helmet, and boots that cover your ankles

that's it

besides the helmet, most people already have all the stuff

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

actually for doing the course, most places only require a jean or leather jacket, jeans, gloves, helmet, and boots that cover your ankles

that's it

besides the helmet, most people already have all the stuff

ya but i was just saying if i have to wear the clothes, as in me not taking those courses, its just me doing the tests with my LSM and reg. clothes. Its just me simply asking if I can wear reg. clothes for the tests and when im driving around in an LSM. remember the key thing here im talking about: LSM, NOT fsm.

[bunga]

don't think I can be much clearer here, you can wear whatever clothing you want while operating either a scooter or a motorcycle, there are zero legal requirements for either besides a DOT helmet

for the test, if you are doing it through a ministry approved course (RTI, Humber, etc.) which I would highly reccomend, the course facility will require helmet, gloves, jean or leather jacket, and boots, that is simply for the duration of the course to cover their legal behinds. If you do the test at a drive test facility they don't require anything but a helmet as mandated by the law

ya but i was just saying if i have to wear the clothes, as in me not taking those courses, its just me doing the tests with my LSM and reg. clothes. Its just me simply asking if I can wear reg. clothes for the tests and when im driving around in an LSM. remember the key thing here im talking about: LSM, NOT fsm.

[enko]

In Ottawa, you are required to have a helmet, leather jacket, a tough workboot or riding boot (covers ankle), real denim jeans or leather pants and leather gloves (even 10$ gardening gloves) to take their course.

On the road, you can go in flip flops, shorts and a tshirt as long as you have a helmet.

I've dropped 2500$ on gear, and that's not on expensive stuff. I have 1 helmet, a 2-piece leather suit, synthetic pants, synthetic jacket, and riding boots and gloves. It adds up :(

Check your insurance BEFORE you start down this road thinking it will be cheap.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

bump, added new link about LSM info:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=417674

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

added new link for help:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=425251

[Fallen_Paladin]

What's the situation regarding insurance for people borrowing someone else's bike for the day. For a car, you would be insured under the owner's insurance, as long as you don't live in the same household, but what about for a bike?

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

What's the situation regarding insurance for people borrowing someone else's bike for the day. For a car, you would be insured under the owner's insurance, as long as you don't live in the same household, but what about for a bike?

I assume its the same as a car.
If you borrow someone else's car, you are covered by the insurance on that car. However, if you are involved in an accident, the owner's record, not yours, will be affected. If you borrow a car on a regular basis, ask your broker to arrange a special clause in your policy to cover your use.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

new link about whether or not obtaining an M2 will push the license expiry date back 5 years.
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=434147

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

bump, I cant find my G1/G2/G thread? it dissapeared? POOF

edit: THREADJACKED T_T

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

last bump till Spring.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

spring comes early this year, j/k I will bump again in spring, but bump for the new guy who didnt bother to search http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=524777

[nitroblu]

sry to revive a dead thread, but luckily my posting comes just in time with you bump ;)

i've been doing on multiple threads on RFD and gtamc and the MTO site (although it's impossible to find things), and i can't seem to find this question answered. so my question is this:
What are the minimum requirements that classify a full-speed motorcycle as a full-speed?

my confusion arises from this, which i found this in the FAQs section (http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/lsm-faq.htm#4) of the MTO site:
"4. If my LSM or moped does not comply with the definition will it be licensed?
No. If your vehicle does not comply with the definition of a limited-speed motorcycle or moped and it is not a full-speed motorcycle, it will not be registered."

I know that only 50cc (or less) scooters qualify as LSM, however based on reviews I've read of 50cc scooters (mainly the 2007 piaggio fly 50), I have a feeling that it won't give me enough accel to keep up with traffic on a 60km/h road like bayview ave, and i'll really be feeling the road on a 50cc scooter. so I'm thinking of getting something around a piaggio fly 150.

So I guess my real question is, would a scooter with a power rating of 125cc-250cc be considered a "non-registerable" vehicle or a full-speed motorcycle?

And if it counts as a full-speed motorcycle, does this mean i'll get a normal m2 license if I pass the m1 road test on a 150cc scooter?

EDIT: don't worry about answering, I got the answer on another thread :)

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

bump for RFD user (guy above me) seriously help him!

else if noone helps him, all advice i can give is visit website that was mentioned in this thread somewhere, gtamotorcycle.

edit: nvm i just read he got answer from other thread. BOO >.<

[mrG]

With an M1 (just the written test) can you ride at all? I noticed it says you can't have any passsengers, so after writing this test you can then buy a bike and already be on the road by yourself the next day? (providing you meet the strict guidelines... ride in daylight, 0% alcohol level, etc)

And then since your M1 lasts 90 days, but you can't take your M2 until day 60, this means that you have to take and pass your M2 between the 60 and 90 day range of your M1 license, is this right?

[tigger03]

Anyone doing the course this year (M1 then M2)?? :D

[hytong]

With an M1 (just the written test) can you ride at all?
Not recommended if you are new but yes, the law said you can ride with the restrictions noted. Don't foget you will need insurance, public road is a shared facility and there are road hazards.

And then since your M1 lasts 90 days, but you can't take your M2 until day 60, this means that you have to take and pass your M2 between the 60 and 90 day range of your M1 license, is this right?

Assuming you have an M1, you can goto a course and take the exam for M2 before 60days, if you pass, examiner will give you a sealed envelope, do not open it yourself, once 60days passed (and before the 90days expiry), you can take it to MTO to upgrade your M1 lic. to M2.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

end of March bump.

[Psycho44]

just got my m1 today. Now the hard part. Finding insurance for my 2001 moped.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

mid April bump.

[bigwill]

I totally forgot about this thread I made, I guess I just left it because the questions were answered and there were no questions left. But anyways I now have more questions.

http://i18.tinypic.com/2d8jn69.jpg
K, so I looked on the drivetest website and it says LM1, so does that mean I do the written test at that center and I can only get a LM1 license?

Also, what discouraged me from wanting to drive a full-speed motorcycle was the clothing you have to buy, cause you have to wear special clothing, and I do not want to wear those clothing just so i can drive a full-speed motorcycle. So my question is, if I drive a limited-speed motorcycle, am I allowed to wear my normal clothes? or do I still have to wear that special motorcycle clothing?

i dont think anyone answered this question. and im also in a similar situation/have a similar question.
how come all the testing locations in toronto just list LM1....does that mean i cant get my M1 there?
because that would totally suck if they dont offer M1 license in toronto....or is it because their site is confusing and the LM1 indicated incluced M1

[techwiz]

i dont think anyone answered this question. and im also in a similar situation/have a similar question.
how come all the testing locations in toronto just list LM1....does that mean i cant get my M1 there?
because that would totally suck if they dont offer M1 license in toronto....or is it because their site is confusing and the LM1 indicated incluced M1

Yes, you can get your M1 there. The L is simply a condition added to your license to indicate that you can only ride LSM's, and is added if you ask for it.

[Psycho44]

the "L" is added for when you take the road test with a bike 50cc or less. Otherwise all written test are the same and you can ride the next day provided you've got insurance and ownership papers in order.

If you need a good rate and have been driving with "G" license at least 5 years or more with a clean record, I'd recommend getting a quote from Statefarm.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

bump, it's been awhile...

Anywho, anyone have a 250cc+ sport bike I can borrow for my M2 exit?

I was so close to buying an 08 kawi ninja 250r, but I had to pay for alumn rims for my vehicle.

Looks like i'll be getting a motorcycle in summer of 09.

[Emancipated]

Do they make bikes for short people? I've always wanted a bike but my legs are too short.

5"3.

I wonder if the Yamaha FZ6R would fit. It has a 30" seat height.

[ssiwani]

I just gave my M1 and also registered for the M2. If i go through a training course, is the M2 fee included what they charge, or is that what i have paid for already ?
Also if i were to take the test on my own, is it possible to rent a bike and equipment for a day and get used to it and give the test ?

[ssiwani]

anyone can help ?

[hytong]

http://www.drivetest.ca/en/license/Fee.aspx
M1 exit course fee usually includes the road test fee (confirm with course provider)

[hellohi]

Q: can you take a G1 exit test with an M2 license? M2 has G1 restrictions. Thanks!

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Q: can you take a G1 exit test with an M2 license? M2 has G1 restrictions. Thanks!

Hello hellohi, you cannot do that unfortunately.
If you had a G1M2 license, then you could take your g1 exit to hopefully get a G2M2. So if you just have an M2, you CANNOT do a G1 exit test.

thanks for asking that question in my thread!

-AzN_RiverdaleCI
soon to be motorcycle owner! lulz. i know!

[hellohi]

Hello hellohi, you cannot do that unfortunately.
If you had a G1M2 license, then you could take your g1 exit to hopefully get a G2M2. So if you just have an M2, you CANNOT do a G1 exit test.

thanks for asking that question in my thread!

-AzN_RiverdaleCI
soon to be motorcycle owner! lulz. i know!

Hi, I'd just like to update you on this. I went to the drivetest and they said I could take a G1 exit test on M2. You cannot book your test online because they need to physically add G1 to the M2 license.

Good idea to get your M2 license first if you don't have your G1 to avoid paying written test twice

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

thanks for the update.

bump

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Spring bump
also added link on info about about first bike recommendations.
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=728882
possible merge /w my thread?

[D-3vil]

I just gave my M1 and also registered for the M2. If i go through a training course, is the M2 fee included what they charge, or is that what i have paid for already ?
Also if i were to take the test on my own, is it possible to rent a bike and equipment for a day and get used to it and give the test ?

You can definitely attempt to take the M1X outside of the course, but you will likely fail on your first attempt. Take the course, and learn the skills you need to be safe on the roads. It's not a lot of money, and you are pretty much guaranteed to pass (if you fail, you can always try again for free -- at least this is the case at RTI).
On top of that, they'll provide you with a bike that is easy to handle and learn the basic skills on. You don't have to worry about falling and damaging it, there's no insurance to get etc ... very hassle-free.

[newt_101]

Thought I would help out people looking for low insurance rates.

My bike (Honda VFR800 Interceptor) was tagged with a sportsbike surcharge onto it 2 years ago.
So my insurance rate climbed drastically.
I shopped around and found that TD Meloche Monnex gave me the best rate. I am paying $625/yr for $1M liability/fire&theft.

Keep this year safe!

Cheers,
Marco

[vincent-poon]

is it possible to only be insured for like, 6 months for the year?

[D-3vil]

is it possible to only be insured for like, 6 months for the year?

yes, but don't expect it to be at half the price. In my experience, it costs something like 80% of the yearly fee.
Considering that you'll probably be comfortable riding for at least 8 months a year, getting the full-year insurance seems like a better choice.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

yes, but don't expect it to be at half the price. In my experience, it costs something like 80% of the yearly fee.
Considering that you'll probably be comfortable riding for at least 8 months a year, getting the full-year insurance seems like a better choice.

+1, I can vouch for this, just do the full year, your rates drop SIGNIFICANTLY in year 2.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

beginning of May bump.

[Dina_E]

how much of an insurance difference is there between a 2006 honda 600rr and the 2006 honda vfr 800?

im age 22
g licience(clean)
m2
just want theft and one-way.

[Insurance-Broker]

how much of an insurance difference is there between a 2006 honda 600rr and the 2006 honda vfr 800?

im age 22
g licience(clean)
m2
just want theft and one-way.

600CBR would be surcharged as a sport bike so you can expect to pay 2 or 3 times more than a vfr 800.

Pm me your details for an accurate quote!

[Insurance-Broker]

is it possible to only be insured for like, 6 months for the year?

Insurance rate on a motorcycle is based on the riding season so even though you are covered year round, the actual price is based off March-Sep with summer taking on the most percentage.

Some companies also have a 150 day rule, after which there is no credit if you were to cancel your policy.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=734935

^ Questions about m1

[Baia.]

hi guys just a few questions related to this M1/M2

me and my brother plan on getting our M1/M2 starting this summer.

but it seems we need the proper attire first so with that, i live in the Mississauga area, and wondering if there is any stores located near Square one that sell jackets and helmets? (will i need anything else?)
(im a small size, and my bro is an xxl - so a store that has lots of styles and sizes would be awesome)
-wat are some names brands of jackets/helmets..blahblah (i want a sports bike btw)

next, the M1 part i think i got covered. its the m2 part which im confused about and in seek of advice.

i need to know of a place to go to for driving school for motorcycles in Mississauga area...hopefully something that doesn't cost to much? will they let me use their motorcycle?

next question, after all that (im gettin a head of my self here) where should i look for used motorcycles?

thanx

[woobie]

Hey Baia,

any idea on a rough budget? I was in Pannon Motosports this morning and he had a decent selection of Nexo gear. Leather Jackets for $299, gloves $120 and Shark Helmets on close out for $109+. Textile jackets were even cheaper.

If you know roughly what size you need you could hit gtamotorcycle and see what used gear is for Sale. kijiji or craigslist is another option, again mknowing your sizes ahead of time is a HUGE help. But at worse you can just ask the seller how big they are and go from there.

For the M1 exit you need a denim or leather jacket, heavy gloves and a DOT helmet. Personally I have no issues with buying used for anything EXCEPT the Helmet.

[Baia.]

Hey Baia,

any idea on a rough budget? I was in Pannon Motosports this morning and he had a decent selection of Nexo gear. Leather Jackets for $299, gloves $120 and Shark Helmets on close out for $109+. Textile jackets were even cheaper.

If you know roughly what size you need you could hit gtamotorcycle and see what used gear is for Sale. kijiji or craigslist is another option, again mknowing your sizes ahead of time is a HUGE help. But at worse you can just ask the seller how big they are and go from there.

For the M1 exit you need a denim or leather jacket, heavy gloves and a DOT helmet. Personally I have no issues with buying used for anything EXCEPT the Helmet.

well im a Small, and my bro is a XL.
where is pannon motosports located? and is gtamotorcycles a website?

i didnt know i had to wear gloves too..thanx for the heads up

budget wise..i'v been hearing jackets go from 200+..and helmets from 100+
but yeah i dont mind spending the 200-400$ i just want somethin that will look good and is safe.

[IceQue]

www.gtamotorcycle.com

[woobie]

Here's Pannons website

http://www.pannonsports.com/

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

June bump

[blackice168]

Lots of good information on here. I just got my M1 and I'm planning to take the training course probably next month at RTI.

The test was very simple, it's the G1 test with an addition 25 questions, IIRC. I went to the Vic Park/Lawrence location. They seem to have gotten rid of the computers, all test are now written only. The only ID I needed to bring was my Driver's License.

Breakdown:
- 20 Rule questions
- 20 Road sign questions
- 25 Bike questions

I read the motorcycle hand book the night before I went, I didn't even bother looking at the G1 stuff :D. The guide I used had many sample questions very similar to what I found on the test.

If anyone needs help or tips, try googling: "Ontario Motorcycle Handbook M1 M2" You should be able to find everything you need.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

july bump

[UrbanPoet]

july bump

Did the course @ Humber college in June.
Highly recommended. Lots of fun and good instructors! You get to learn on this cool low riding yamaha.
But i heard theres a cheaper one in d/t toronto called "riders training institute".

warning..... doing serpentines in slow motion on a 2 wheeled vehicle that probably weights 400 or so pounds SUCKS.

[shoe]

Just completed the course at Centennial College - Ashtonbee campus today.
Great instructors. Walked in with ZERO experience on Friday evening (in class session), walked out on Sunday afternoon feeling more confident and with some riding experience under my belt. They made it fun, interesting and were very encouraging.

I must admit though, Centennial wasn't my first choice. RTI was booking mid to late September (Word on the street is that they're the best) and Humber was too far. That said, I have no complaints about my "third choice" school and I'm considering taking the M2 exit there when the time comes.

Whichever place you choose, make sure they're endorsed by the CANADA SAFETY COUNCIL and not some fly by night school. The program is called "Gearing Up".

[blackice168]

Do they provide free retesting like RTI?

Just completed the course at Centennial College - Ashtonbee campus today.
Great instructors. Walked in with ZERO experience on Friday evening (in class session), walked out on Sunday afternoon feeling more confident and with some riding experience under my belt. They made it fun, interesting and were very encouraging.

I must admit though, Centennial wasn't my first choice. RTI was booking mid to late September (Word on the street is that they're the best) and Humber was too far. That said, I have no complaints about my "third choice" school and I'm considering taking the M2 exit there when the time comes.

Whichever place you choose, make sure they're endorsed by the CANADA SAFETY COUNCIL and not some fly by night school. The program is called "Gearing Up".

[shoe]

I really don't know. We only had 1 person fail out of 24. I don't know what happened because my back was turned away from the course and I was talking but whatever he did, they took his bike and sent him off of the track.

I know from the test sheet - they give you a copy after the test, that you fail automatically for dropping the bike, committing an unsafe act, refusing to complete exercise or more than 11 demerit points.

They do have some sort of retest procedure I believe as there was a trackside protest but they just told him that they will discuss his situation with him inside the classroom later.

I can't believe I'm saying this but relax, you won't fail! I was very negative and nervous at throughout the whole thing but I passed. I'll tell you the same thing others told me - if you can ride a bicycle, you'll pass.

2 people dropped their bikes during the training. No worries. They KNOW people are going to drop bikes and we know we may drop bikes - that's why we're taking courses... to drop a trainer instead of a real bike, right?
All that matters is the actual test.

Actually, I just remembered. I was in a class of 24 people. They told us that a normal class consists of 35 or 36 people. This allowed us to have more riding/practice time so I guess YMMV in that aspect.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Do they provide free retesting like RTI?

yes they do.

[joeyjoejoe]

What type of motorcycle would you recommend to a newb? In terms of easy to ride, cheap to buy, and cheap on insurance.

I haven't done my M1 yet.... still very newbie to the whole thing. I wanted to do this last year, but my some of my investments went to *****. Now that all that is taken care of, I got plenty of disposable income. :D

Also, other than Parker Brothers (which is really convenient for me) are there any other places for gear in GTA? Any good places online?

[yanksingh]

What type of motorcycle would you recommend to a newb?

If you have no riding experience whatsoever, I would say just go with 250 or 500 cc starter bike, like ninja 250 or suzuki 500 gs.

[shoe]

What type of motorcycle would you recommend to a newb? In terms of easy to ride, cheap to buy, and cheap on insurance.

I haven't done my M1 yet.... still very newbie to the whole thing. I wanted to do this last year, but my some of my investments went to *****. Now that all that is taken care of, I got plenty of disposable income. :D

Also, other than Parker Brothers (which is really convenient for me) are there any other places for gear in GTA? Any good places online?

Make sure you READ THE DRIVERS HANDBOOK TOO!
On one of the drivers exams, not the road sign one, I got 20/20 on that, there were three questions. One I SHOULD have known but I screwed it up. The other two - G1 and G2 related questions! I didn't bother studying that garbage because I figured that information is useless to me as I've had my G for many many years but I learned that you never know.... those types of questions could be on the test.

[joeyjoejoe]

If you have no riding experience whatsoever, I would say just go with 250 or 500 cc starter bike, like ninja 250 or suzuki 500 gs.

Those are the two I was looking at: Suzuki GS500F or Kawasaki Ninja 500R.

Make sure you READ THE DRIVERS HANDBOOK TOO!
On one of the drivers exams, not the road sign one, I got 20/20 on that, there were three questions. One I SHOULD have known but I screwed it up. The other two - G1 and G2 related questions! I didn't bother studying that garbage because I figured that information is useless to me as I've had my G for many many years but I learned that you never know.... those types of questions could be on the test.

I won't say how long it's been since I did the written test, but I'll just say that I didn't have to got through the graduated license program... So I think I have to brush up on everything.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Those are the two I was looking at: Suzuki GS500F or Kawasaki Ninja 500R.


IMHO, the ninja 500r looks VERY outdated, and I think needs a new look.

[-=phelan=-]

does this thread ever do meets? as i wouldn't mind meeting up with fellow rfd'ers on bikes ;) maybe ride to get a deal or *ahem* deal's gap :)

[joeyjoejoe]

IMHO, the ninja 500r looks VERY outdated, and I think needs a new look.

I agree, but this will be my first bike and I will get a new one once I feel very comfortable on my starter bike. I'll probably get the ninja or gs500 used unless I can find a really good price at a dealership.

I'm not really into sporty looking bikes. When I'm ready to splurge on a decent ride, I'll probably get a mean looking cruiser (all black) that looks somewhat modern. I haven't really found my "dream bike", but ultimately this is a just talk... maybe I'll change my mind once I get riding.

[CSR]

http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/

You'll get all the info you'll need there.

[applenano]

Just took the Humber Safety Course to get your M2. I went in with very little experience and came out with a lot that i learned. Great instructors. It was fun, but at the end of the day you get very tired. I recommend a early sleep the day before Saturday and Sundays class. Out of 20 poeple about 3 people failed. A couple people dropped there bikes during training. Highly recommended course, just seemed a tad to long (8:30-5:30) saturday and sunday.

[UrbanPoet]

I agree, but this will be my first bike and I will get a new one once I feel very comfortable on my starter bike. I'll probably get the ninja or gs500 used unless I can find a really good price at a dealership.

I'm not really into sporty looking bikes. When I'm ready to splurge on a decent ride, I'll probably get a mean looking cruiser (all black) that looks somewhat modern. I haven't really found my "dream bike", but ultimately this is a just talk... maybe I'll change my mind once I get riding.

I'm on the same boat.
I like something thats modern but not to sporty like an R1 or CBR1000. Plus I don't like that bent down riding position.

I've never tried... But the Aprilia Shiver 750 looks pretty sport but has that naked look. I'm not sure how the riding position is. The Suzuki GS500 looks alright too... the Non sported up version with the rounded front light.

I've always wanted an Aprilia! or ducati

[afong56]

I'm on the same boat.
I like something thats modern but not to sporty like an R1 or CBR1000. Plus I don't like that bent down riding position.

I've always wanted an Aprilia! or ducati

you should consider a suzuki sv650n, kawi er-6n, or a ducati monster

[gamer123]

how crappy is it to ride under rain or hot days without a/c?

also, you pretty much have to own another car for winter use right?

aside from the cool factor, is it troublesome to carry the helmet around in school/work/mall/eating/etc?

i remember reading somewhere that theres parking exemption for bikes in toronto, true?

how exactly do instructor/examiner teach/test you? i mean they cant be sitting behind you with hands wrapped around :lol:

thanks

[shoe]

Instructors teach you basic handling skills.
In my class, we had a 6:1 ratio so it wasn't too bad.
For the basic training, there obstacles set up - like a curve or somewhere you had to stop.
The instructor would be at the end of the setup and you'd have to stop and he would tell you what you did wrong or if you were okay.
Eventually they made a little course combining all of the skills we've aquired and there would be a instuctor at each station giving comments.

We were in a parking lot on little bikes so it's not too hard for them to observe us. For the actual examination part, it was pretty much one person at a time and I think there was three people watching us. One instructor would read the instuctions for each part to ensure you understood what the test was. One person at the end of the test and the actual examiner who stood at off to the side midway observing your overall test.

For the M2 Exit test, you're on the road with an examiner and you have a headset where they give you commands. They observe how you handle traffic etc....

[gamer123]

how crappy is it to ride under rain or hot days without a/c?

also, you pretty much have to own another car for winter use right?

aside from the cool factor, is it troublesome to carry the helmet around in school/work/mall/eating/etc?

i remember reading somewhere that theres parking exemption for bikes in toronto, true?

how exactly do instructor/examiner teach/test you? i mean they cant be sitting behind you with hands wrapped around :lol:

thanks
anyone?

[Tomy]

anyone?

nooo! dont get a motorcycle u street racer :D


hehehe .. j/k

[UrbanPoet]

how crappy is it to ride under rain or hot days without a/c?

also, you pretty much have to own another car for winter use right?

aside from the cool factor, is it troublesome to carry the helmet around in school/work/mall/eating/etc?

i remember reading somewhere that theres parking exemption for bikes in toronto, true?

how exactly do instructor/examiner teach/test you? i mean they cant be sitting behind you with hands wrapped around :lol:

thanks

1. Rain and heat suck. You'll get wet, and you'll get hot. You'll also freeze when the temperature is slightly cold b/c of the extra wind. To prevent this... you must have the proper gear.
-Reflective rain gear
-vented jackets, pants, well ventilated helmets
-jackets and layers, gloves, long johns under riding pants, heated vest

2. Obviously... But if your diligent you could ride all spring/summer (4 months) plus a month in fall, and a month in late winter... so if you really wanted too you could ride it 6 months a year!

3. You could lock your helmet to your bike using cables. Or you could get a back pack. You'll have to get used to the back pack...

4. There is a parking exemption.
50cc bikes (mopeds, small scooters) can be parked like a bicycle on the sidewalk locked to a pole, or near a bike rack station. Step through scooters (think Vespa's) that are bigger then 50cc can get away with it b/c parking enforcement cant tell the difference.

All bikes can park on the Street with no charge provided they follow the by-laws... e.g. Not in a tow away zone, permit zone, fire hydrant etc...
lets say the sign says "pay parking enforced 9am-9pm". YOu could park there between 9-9 and not pay!

5. If you take a training course you get your own bike and you ride... by yourself. Its not like a car. You hop on and start riding. Heck... even with your M1 written permit you could go out and buy a 1000cc+ hayabusa and start riding that on the STREET by yourself.

Testing during the course is done by performing maneuvers they instruct you to do. They'll give you the instructions then shout "do this!" and you have to do it.

Testing @ a MTO test facility (if you dont take the course) is done in a parking lot, and on the road. They follow you in a car with a 2way mic to give instructions.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

lol once again I have neglected my own thread, will clean it up and make it look good and add pics hopefully this week!

anyways there's a group ride today! Meet at Tim Hortons @ Lawrence & Brimley 1:30pm

we'll be heading out east.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

OMG, YOU GUYS, TODAY WAS FREAKKY YO

this guy in front of me was going like sooo fast and he just totaled his brand new 2 week old 2009 Suzuki SV650S on old finch!

gg

will post pics within 24 hrs.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Basically we were heading to Twyn Rivers when one of the guys crashed at Old Finch.

Too lazy to post a big story. Bike was almost brand new. It had that waxy stuff on the tires still. He probably never leaned it over as far as he did on that corner, hit the wax, lowsided into the guardrail.
it was a 2009 Suzuki SV650S less than 1k kms, gg no re


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[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

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http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7161/gatheraround.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7349/rail1.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/112/rail2k.jpg

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

final pics:

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4797/riderdown.jpg
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/9673/tow1.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8412/tow3.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7180/tow4.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5347/tow6.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3672/tow2.jpg

[D-3vil]

Basically we were heading to Twyn Rivers when one of the guys crashed at Old Finch.

Too lazy to post a big story. Bike was almost brand new. It had that waxy stuff on the tires still. He probably never leaned it over as far as he did on that corner, hit the wax, lowsided into the guardrail.
it was a 2009 Suzuki SV650S less than 1k kms, gg no re

Or he panicked and clamped on the brakes...a buddy of mine did that on a V-Strom not too long ago. It should buff right out :)

If he wants to buy another one, I'll probably have an '07 SV (naked + ABS, touring upgrades) for sale up soon.

[yanksingh]

ohh snap...i feel sorry for the bike and rider.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

ohh snap...i feel sorry for the bike and rider.

he's fine, he's gonna get his bike repaired!

[CSR]

he's fine, he's gonna get his bike repaired!

Are you on gtamotorcycle.com? how come I dont' see these pictures there?

[yanksingh]

he's fine, he's gonna get his bike repaired!

good to know. but bike looks write-off

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

bump, updated op up to page 8, this thread is now up to date
and i'll add meets later today

does this thread ever do meets? as i wouldn't mind meeting up with fellow rfd'ers on bikes ;) maybe ride to get a deal or *ahem* deal's gap :)

Yes srry I forgot to post em!
will post later today

[1_black_civic]

Just completed the course at Centennial College - Ashtonbee campus today.
Great instructors. Walked in with ZERO experience on Friday evening (in class session), walked out on Sunday afternoon feeling more confident and with some riding experience under my belt. They made it fun, interesting and were very encouraging.

I must admit though, Centennial wasn't my first choice. RTI was booking mid to late September (Word on the street is that they're the best) and Humber was too far. That said, I have no complaints about my "third choice" school and I'm considering taking the M2 exit there when the time comes.

Whichever place you choose, make sure they're endorsed by the CANADA SAFETY COUNCIL and not some fly by night school. The program is called "Gearing Up".

Interesting you mention that, I went to the CSC's website and I couldn't find RTI as a certified school offering the GEARING UP program. Humber, Centenial, etc. etc. are all listed.

Link:
http://www.ridertraining.org/ontario.shtml

Does anyone know if the Canada Safety Council's certificate gives you any meaningful discounts on insurance?

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Interesting you mention that, I went to the CSC's website and I couldn't find RTI as a certified school offering the GEARING UP program. Humber, Centenial, etc. etc. are all listed.

Link:
http://www.ridertraining.org/ontario.shtml

Does anyone know if the Canada Safety Council's certificate gives you any meaningful discounts on insurance?

oh noes, didnt notice that well RTI gives you a cert so I got discounted insurance so it was iight. but this was like a few years back so idk about now.

also

for you late birds theres a ton of motorcycles still at leslie & lakeshoe at tim hortons/price chopper parking lot I just got back now.

they'll be there till 1am.

[joeyjoejoe]

Interesting you mention that, I went to the CSC's website and I couldn't find RTI as a certified school offering the GEARING UP program. Humber, Centenial, etc. etc. are all listed.

Link:
http://www.ridertraining.org/ontario.shtml

Does anyone know if the Canada Safety Council's certificate gives you any meaningful discounts on insurance?

Recently (as in yesterday), I've been shopping around for insurance and to be honest, the insurance companies/brokers all more concerned that you took a course rather than where you took the course.

I'm a new rider with just a M1. I signed up with RTI and my course is at the end of August. I jumped the gun a little by agreeing to purchase a motorcycle this Saturday which is two weeks before the course. So at first I tried calling around to get the insurance done and found many companies won't insure a person with a M1 and no course. The back up plan is to still buy the bike, but park it until the course. And once completed, I'll go get the insurance and plate.

I'm going with Riders Plus. They were the cheapest I found. State Farm is okay, but you need to already have auto insurance with them. I can ramble on, but the best info can be found in the insurance sub-forum at gtamotorcycle.com.

[1_black_civic]

Recently (as in yesterday), I've been shopping around for insurance and to be honest, the insurance companies/brokers all more concerned that you took a course rather than where you took the course.

I'm a new rider with just a M1. I signed up with RTI and my course is at the end of August. I jumped the gun a little by agreeing to purchase a motorcycle this Saturday which is two weeks before the course. So at first I tried calling around to get the insurance done and found many companies won't insure a person with a M1 and no course. The back up plan is to still buy the bike, but park it until the course. And once completed, I'll go get the insurance and plate.

I'm going with Riders Plus. They were the cheapest I found. State Farm is okay, but you need to already have auto insurance with them. I can ramble on, but the best info can be found in the insurance sub-forum at gtamotorcycle.com.

Alright, because it seems the CSC-certified courses are being offered at a slight premium. I'd rather spend the extra money on gear and the bike than a training course since, from what I've read, they're all pretty much the same.

Originally I was thinking it might be worth paying a bit more for the course if the insurance peeps are more likely to give me a discount.

[CSR]

Alright, because it seems the CSC-certified courses are being offered at a slight premium. I'd rather spend the extra money on gear and the bike than a training course since, from what I've read, they're all pretty much the same.

Originally I was thinking it might be worth paying a bit more for the course if the insurance peeps are more likely to give me a discount.

Just because the courses are all the same, doesn't mean you shouldn't spend money on them. The course will probably be your most valuable asset in your 1st yr of riding. They're the same as in, they're all really good. THe knowledge and experience you gain is much more valuable than the measly insurance discount. (btw, statefarm doesn't care if you took the course)

You should budget enough money for gear AND the course.

[D-3vil]

You should budget enough money for gear AND the course.

+1. I'd go even further and say you should budget for about one course per year.

M1 exit
M2 exit
Advanced (Technical) Rider Training
FAST phases I, II, III


That will keep you busy for the next 6 years :) Training is paramount to keeping your skills sharp.


Totally unrelated to the above, but in the spirit of the thread: picked up my Sprint today! Not even 50 clicks under my belt and I'm already in love -- I think I found my long-term bike.

'07 SV650 ABS now up for sale (PM if interested)

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

updated op up to this post!

also sorta kinda late but considering where I am now and all the stuff I have learned about motorcycles and stuff I wanna thank the following people:

techwiz, D-3vil, MadCow, and CSR
thanks for the help in the beginning back when I started this thread!


Sunday August 16th ride!

Sunday Aug 16
highways, not noob friendly

RoadAwareness.ca Ride – Aug. 16th (

Our roads have become a crap shoot and despite safer vehicles and road designs, riders are being seriously injured or killed at an alarming rate.

Last time we had 200 fellow riders in attendance…lets smoke that and get everyone we know out on two wheels.

Details are still being worked on but the ride will be starting in North York near Fairview Mall, passing near Niagara Falls, through Port Dover (where we will hook up with even more riders starting from there) and stopping in Simcoe for lunch, then up through Brantford and KW and finishing in Brampton. The final route is still being worked on.

At the finish we will have RoadAwareness decals and shirts available for sale. We are also working on having a raffle for various prizes!

Stay tuned for further details!

The message is simple...

Look Twice - Save a Life

and

Safer roads start with safer motorists

Please note...this will NOT be an M1 friendly ride. The route will be comprised of various 400 series highways. An M1 route is being considered though.

Riders are welcome to join at any point along the way or just show up and have some fun. Riders from around Port Dover and Simcoe will be joining us at the mid-point! This will be one hell of an assembly of motorcycles!

Starting point in North York will be leaving promptly at 10am so please arrive between 9am-9:30am
Yorkland Blvd, west of Consumers Rd. Adjacent to the RTI parking lot.
http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=d&sourc...4&ie=UTF8&z=17

Mid-point in Simcoe - Arriving around noon and departing around 2pm
BS Custom Cycles
2-751 Norfolk Street North
Simcoe, ON N3Y 3R6
http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=d&sourc...6&ie=UTF8&z=15

Finish point in Brampton - around 4pm.
Formula Kartways
79 Bramsteele Road (near 410 & Steeles)
http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=d&sourc...8&ie=UTF8&z=15


Here is the full route:
http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Yorkland+Blvd&daddr=42.9 41345,-79.896698+to:42.854795,-80.309887+to:Unknown+road+to:King's+Hwy+401%2FMacD onald-Cartier+Fwy+to:Bramsteele+Rd&hl=en&geocode=FWLjmwI dcXZF-w%3B%3BFYvpjQIdgZE2-w%3BFbdxlgIdlFs2-w%3BFczEmQIdcDFA-w%3BFQ-XmgIdwZ4_-w&gl=ca&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=10&via=1,3,4&sll= 43.014689,-79.815674&sspn=0.41269,1.231842&ie=UTF8&ll=43.0438 02,-79.999695&spn=0.412495,1.231842&z=10

[CSR]

updated op up to this post!

also sorta kinda late but considering where I am now and all the stuff I have learned about motorcycles and stuff I wanna thank the following people:

techwiz, D-3vil, MadCow, and CSR
thanks for the help in the beginning back when I started this thread!



Thanks for thanking me!

[pmc]

HARRY?!?! is that you?

[D-3vil]

updated op up to this post!

also sorta kinda late but considering where I am now and all the stuff I have learned about motorcycles and stuff I wanna thank the following people:

techwiz, D-3vil, MadCow, and CSR
thanks for the help in the beginning back when I started this thread!
Thanks for the props! I'm always glad to help a fellow rider out :)


also there is a ride Saturday August 15 and Sunday August 16th!
I'm going to try and make one of these... probably the one on Sunday (assuming I wake up on time). I've been dying to see how the new bike fares on longer rides!

[techwiz]

updated op up to this post!

also sorta kinda late but considering where I am now and all the stuff I have learned about motorcycles and stuff I wanna thank the following people:

techwiz, D-3vil, MadCow, and CSR
thanks for the help in the beginning back when I started this thread!



Glad I could help as well. Ride safe!

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

bump for tomorrow's ride!

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Monday, August 17, 2009: Meet Up for Ice Cream, Dessert, and Sweets!

Location: La Paloma Gelateria & Cafe , Hwy#7 and Weston
Address: 200 Windflower Gate, Woodbridge, ON, L4L-9L3
Phone: (905) 851-5151


We meet at the Timmy's at the 401 and Weston @ 8pm to head up to La Paloma on Hwy 7. The 400 on ramp is just east of this location or we can ride up Weston, if we don't take the hwy. Other riders closer to La Paloma may just want to meet us there, up to you.

When travelling EAST on the 401, just exit Weston, and enter straight through to the main plaza entrance. Timmy's is on the left.

When travelling WEST on the 401, just exit Weston, make a left (south) and make a left into the main plaza entrance. Timmy's is on the left.

p.s.: at least 3 chicks are guaranteed to be going! :thumbsup:

[UrbanPoet]

LEmme know how the group ride went!
I got my M2 back in June. but i still don't have a bike. lol

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

LEmme know how the group ride went!
I got my M2 back in June. but i still don't have a bike. lol

lol tonights group ride was epic fail, the group got seperated somehow at islington/kipling and then after that it was just gg.

yeah i know, you told me ur whole story and your gonna be getting an aprila scooter which looks like a motorcycle except its automatic.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

bump,
so basically what happened yesterday was someones bike had their fuel light come on, on the hwy for 3km but that person had lots of gas so its prolly an electrical prob and the bike shut off by itself so they had to pull over

updated info on todays ice cream
and added more rides, check op

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

=
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Sept 19
Book your calendars for September 19th, 2009.

The Amazing Ride for MS is gearing up. We have Great sponsors againt this year.

If you missed it last year you missed a GREAT FUN ride.

The ride this year is LONGER as requested by many people last year.

Please pre-register at www.AmazingRideforMS.ca

For more information also see www.AmazingRideforMS.ca
Or our Facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=98716616363&ref=ts


Thanks
Garry Kramer
Event Organizer.
info@AmazingRideforMS.ca

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

bump, no one from RFD besides me wants to go for ice cream? D=

come on! there's for sure gonna be at least 3 chicks guaranteed!

[joeyjoejoe]

Aug 23 noob ride!

Ok everyone, one more noob ride for this year!

requirements:
-should have M2 permit (if you have an M1 please let me know)
-logged at least 1000kms on your own.. can navigate turns safely
-study hand signals, and group ride dynamics before coming


Wow... I don't even qualify as a "noob"...:(

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Wow... I don't even qualify as a "noob"...:(

so your a pro then? :S


0=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=

Thank you to everyone...who showed up (no one from RFD, booo urns)

Great turnout and nice weather tonight!

I can say I had really good gelato (mint chocolate chip & oreo) and great company @ La Paloma.

I will post the pics tomorrow.

Good Times,
AzN_RiverdaleCI

[joeyjoejoe]

so your a pro then? :S


0=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=

Thank you to everyone...who showed up (no one from RFD, booo urns)

Great turnout and nice weather tonight!

I can say I had really good gelato (mint chocolate chip & oreo) and great company @ La Paloma.

I will post the pics tomorrow.

Good Times,
AzN_RiverdaleCI

Actually lower than a noob. I can technically ride right now (just got a bike), but I'm waiting for my course at RTI in a few weeks before getting on the bike. Also (assuming I pass), I still won't be able to file for my M2 until October.

Maybe I'll join you guys next year! :P

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Actually lower than a noob. I can technically ride right now (just got a bike), but I'm waiting for my course at RTI in a few weeks before getting on the bike. Also (assuming I pass), I still won't be able to file for my M2 until October.

Maybe I'll join you guys next year! :P

aww, do it this year! I might sell my bike this season =(
do ur course at RTI and then we can go riding!
what bike did you get?

[CatFrame]

I need a bike, then I'll come out for a group ride!

You'll be seeing me around next May!

[UrbanPoet]

lol tonights group ride was epic fail, the group got seperated somehow at islington/kipling and then after that it was just gg.

yeah i know, you told me ur whole story and your gonna be getting an aprila scooter which looks like a motorcycle except its automatic.

Haha I'm now eying some Vespa's!
Kicking it old skool.

It'd be funny if i join you guys. A bunch of bikes come roaring by. Then a Vespa scoots along @ the back. lol

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Haha I'm now eying some Vespa's!
Kicking it old skool.

It'd be funny if i join you guys. A bunch of bikes come roaring by. Then a Vespa scoots along @ the back. lol

nothing wrong with that, as long as you can keep up!

also z0mg
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 3 (3 members and 0 guests)
AzN_RiverdaleCI*+, joeyjoejoe, IceQue

I saw joeyjoejoe b4 i went 2 slp at like 2am and hes still on now! no sleep ftw?

[joeyjoejoe]

what bike did you get?

Suzuki GS500F. Used, but has very low mileage.

Haha I'm now eying some Vespa's!
Kicking it old skool.

It'd be funny if i join you guys. A bunch of bikes come roaring by. Then a Vespa scoots along @ the back. lol

Vespa GTS has 250cc. It's no Hyabusa, but definitely won't be trailing behind!

nothing wrong with that, as long as you can keep up!

also z0mg
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 3 (3 members and 0 guests)
AzN_RiverdaleCI*+, joeyjoejoe, IceQue

I saw joeyjoejoe b4 i went 2 slp at like 2am and hes still on now! no sleep ftw?

You stalking me? I shut down my computer at 1am last night. So I wasn't logged in that late. Or maybe it it could have been my work computer. I leave that computer on all the time (and RFD open)... that could be why I appear to be logged on.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Suzuki GS500F. Used, but has very low mileage.

You stalking me? I shut down my computer at 1am last night. So I wasn't logged in that late. Or maybe it it could have been my work computer. I leave that computer on all the time (and RFD open)... that could be why I appear to be logged on.

thats such a good beginners bike, bring it out! you lead, i'll sweep. heck you don't need a course, just ride and ill tell you what you need to work on!

I ain't stalking you, i was just viewing my thread and it shows who's viewing it !
k maybe 2am was an exaggeration but idk what time last night so i guessed.

bump, anyone goin 2 cuisina's 2nite? looks like the rain is gone!

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

pics from monday aug 17 ice cream run at hwy 7 n weston:

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae12/JoeL-Toronto/Timmy%20and%20LaPaloma%20Aug%2017%2009/100_1145.jpg
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae12/JoeL-Toronto/Timmy%20and%20LaPaloma%20Aug%2017%2009/100_1146.jpg
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae12/JoeL-Toronto/Timmy%20and%20LaPaloma%20Aug%2017%2009/100_1147.jpg
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae12/JoeL-Toronto/Timmy%20and%20LaPaloma%20Aug%2017%2009/100_1148.jpg
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae12/JoeL-Toronto/Timmy%20and%20LaPaloma%20Aug%2017%2009/100_1150.jpg
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae12/JoeL-Toronto/Timmy%20and%20LaPaloma%20Aug%2017%2009/100_1151.jpg
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae12/JoeL-Toronto/Timmy%20and%20LaPaloma%20Aug%2017%2009/100_1152.jpg
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae12/JoeL-Toronto/Timmy%20and%20LaPaloma%20Aug%2017%2009/100_1153-1.jpg

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

bump, who's going to st. louis' for wings tonight?

(check op, has info there)

[cluless]

Great thread OP! Didn't know there were meet ups happening. Maybe we'll join you on the next ride. You can count me as the fourth chick, although I'll be more of an accessory than anything else. ;) It'll be nice to put some faces to the names. :)

[D-3vil]

I would have come out tonight, had I not forgotten to turn off the lights the other day. Imagine my surprise when I got on the bike and it wouldn't start.

Suffice it to say, the battery is now getting a full charge and I'll be good to go for tomorrow. But Murphy's laws are universally applicable, so of course it's going to rain.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Great thread OP! Didn't know there were meet ups happening. Maybe we'll join you on the next ride. You can count me as the fourth chick, although I'll be more of an accessory than anything else. ;) It'll be nice to put some faces to the names. :)

thx cluless, yeah there are meetups/rides every day of the week!

I would have come out tonight, had I not forgotten to turn off the lights the other day. Imagine my surprise when I got on the bike and it wouldn't start.

Suffice it to say, the battery is now getting a full charge and I'll be good to go for tomorrow. But Murphy's laws are universally applicable, so of course it's going to rain.

aww that sucks, yo there was so many bikers that turned out for wings, it was insaneeee, i'll see if i can get pics, but no promises as I did not take any.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

bump for noob ride, it is still on for tmrw!

the weather seems to be fairly stable and clear through until morning. There is a chance of showers tomorrow aft but only 1-3mm if it does come down.

So... we're good to go!

Having said that- noobs, if you're unaccustomed or afraid to ride in some wet weather, you may want to opt out of this ride for your own safety.


Again, we'll convene at the Tim hortons on Appleby/403 @ 10am.

We'll introduce ourselves and go thru a quick list of /pointers/rules/regs, and split off into these groups.

Please make sure you arrive with full gas tanks and empty bladders!


All other details are on the main page of this thread. (which will then link you to a post somewhere in this thread)

Look forward to a great day! See you all in the morning!

[GoldieTiger]

bump for noob ride, it is still on for tmrw!

the weather seems to be fairly stable and clear through until morning. There is a chance of showers tomorrow aft but only 1-3mm if it does come down.

So... we're good to go!

Having said that- noobs, if you're unaccustomed or afraid to ride in some wet weather, you may want to opt out of this ride for your own safety.


Again, we'll convene at the Tim hortons on Appleby/403 @ 10am.

We'll introduce ourselves and go thru a quick list of /pointers/rules/regs, and split off into these groups.

Please make sure you arrive with full gas tanks and empty bladders!


All other details are on the main page of this thread. (which will then link you to a post somewhere in this thread)

Look forward to a great day! See you all in the morning!

LoL!
Who is this?
I never knew rides were posted up in RFD!!!
ROFL

[vrus]

all these rides posted and more on gtamotorcycle.com

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

^ lol wow, both of you are on GTAM too! There are so many ppl from RFD that are also on GTAM!

but yah the purpose of this thread is for those who are lazy 2 sign up and leave RFD forums!

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

noob ride was gr8, will post pics when thread reaches page 11.

for you lurkers, dont be shy! post in this thread questions you may have and our many pro members will help you out!

[Baseball_Boy]

I've been following this thread and am interested in getting my motorcycle license. Probably will wait till next summer though :(

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

I've been following this thread and am interested in getting my motorcycle license. Probably will wait till next summer though :(

Great choice! also updated op with more rides

[DeimosBeros]

I'm also thinking of starting my license in September this year.

Is it me or does anyone else think a lot of used motorbikes on CL or kijiji are over priced? Any recommendations for where to buy used?

[joeyjoejoe]

I'm also thinking of starting my license in September this year.

Is it me or does anyone else think a lot of used motorbikes on CL or kijiji are over priced? Any recommendations for where to buy used?

Those prices are inflated. If you just keep tabs on them, you'll notice that the same bikes keep popping up. You can counter offer any of them. Also look at Autotrader.ca and gtamorotcycle.com for more postings.

It's a buyers' market right now and it's only going to get better (for the buyer). The further you get to the end of the season, the more bikes will go on sale. Also 2010 models come out in October.

Do you have a bike in mind? You should do a lot of research on what type of bike to get and how much insurance will cost. Keep note that many insurance companies won't insure unless you have a M2 or you take a safety course. Also factor in at least $1k for gear.

[cluless]

those prices are inflated. If you just keep tabs on them, you'll notice that the same bikes keep popping up. You can counter offer any of them. Also look at autotrader.ca and gtamorotcycle.com for more postings.

It's a buyers' market right now and it's only going to get better (for the buyer). The further you get to the end of the season, the more bikes will go on sale. Also 2010 models come out in october.

Do you have a bike in mind? You should do a lot of research on what type of bike to get and how much insurance will cost. Keep note that many insurance companies won't insure unless you have a m2 or you take a safety course. Also factor in at least $1k for gear.

^ +1

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

guess what! new page that means pics from the noob ride! :

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5775/img0411jpg.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4767/img0412jpg.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5498/handicapparking.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/6901/noobride012.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6379/noobride139.jpg
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/8030/noobride156.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2334/noobride060.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2472/noobride017.jpg
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/1346/noobride148.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3853/noobride150.jpg

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7940/noobride029.jpg
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/8690/noobride002.jpg
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/535/noobride184.jpg
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/535/noobride184.jpg

/end pics of noob ride

[CSR]

sweet pics thx

[DeimosBeros]

Thanks for the heads up Joeyjoejoe!

I like the idea behind the "naked" type of bike:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_J9bnnRgW4f8/Rz0OqYXxLbI/AAAAAAAABUk/Q0P9WeF36cs/s400/brutal1078.jpg

And damn sexy too.

[afici0nad0]

very nice pics.

i got my m2 in jul/08, however, haven't been able to ride since, as i've still been looking for a used bike. btw, m1 exit course and exam was very fun.

hopefully i'll be able to find something in the summer of 2010.

[joeyjoejoe]

Thanks for the heads up Joeyjoejoe!

I like the idea behind the "naked" type of bike:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_J9bnnRgW4f8/Rz0OqYXxLbI/AAAAAAAABUk/Q0P9WeF36cs/s400/brutal1078.jpg

And damn sexy too.

Like many suggested to me, don't get your dream bike right away. Get a starter bike first and graduate to what you want. Two reasons: safety and money. Many people want super sport bikes and end up crashing them because they don't know how to handle them. The other thing is money. That looks like a Ducati and those aren't cheap, which means insurance will be VERY high for a new rider.

Here's my suggestion for you:
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2009models/2009-Suzuki-GS500b-small.jpg

Suzuki GS500
-500cc, so it's got some power
-considered a great starter bike
-typically $5K new or $3K-$4K used
-cheap on insurance too

[COSMIC5]

There are also companies that will insure you with an M1 :)

Those prices are inflated. If you just keep tabs on them, you'll notice that the same bikes keep popping up. You can counter offer any of them. Also look at Autotrader.ca and gtamorotcycle.com for more postings.

It's a buyers' market right now and it's only going to get better (for the buyer). The further you get to the end of the season, the more bikes will go on sale. Also 2010 models come out in October.

Do you have a bike in mind? You should do a lot of research on what type of bike to get and how much insurance will cost. Keep note that many insurance companies won't insure unless you have a M2 or you take a safety course. Also factor in at least $1k for gear.

[joeyjoejoe]

There are also companies that will insure you with an M1 :)

Yes, if have taken a safety course.

But the companies that will insure with only a M1 license and nothing else are also more expensive and/or will only insure if I move my auto insurance over

[DeimosBeros]

Wow, thanks for the suggestion Joey. It's great to know RFD has an excellent riding community.

[COSMIC5]

not true - Jevco will write a M1 lic'd driver and you don't need auto insurance to qualify....who is giving you this incorrect information?

Yes, if have taken a safety course.

But the companies that will insure with only a M1 license and nothing else are also more expensive and/or will only insure if I move my auto insurance over

[joeyjoejoe]

not true - Jevco will write a M1 lic'd driver and you don't need auto insurance to qualify....who is giving you this incorrect information?

I think you are just not reading my post correctly. I said "and/or". I never said that, "insurance companies will ONLY insure a M1 if you have auto with them".

So to clearify: Can you get insurance with just a M1?

Yes, but out of those companies that do it (since not all do):
-Some will only do it, if you take a safety course.
-Some will only do it, if you also insure auto with them.
-and the rest will, but more often than not, it will be more expensive.

Here are some examples (currently, I have an M1 and will be taking a safety course this weekend):

State Farm: They said I have to move my car insurance over, but this may vary depending on which agent you talk to.

Riders Plus: Once I complete the course, they will insure. BTW, this was the best quote I got.

Jevco: I got a quote (through a broker) with just an M1, but the price was higher than others (about 20% more).

PC Insurance: Won't insure until I have an M license. This sucks because all my other insurance is with them.

[joeyjoejoe]

Wow, thanks for the suggestion Joey. It's great to know RFD has an excellent riding community.

I'm still a noob too... but I've done a ton of research. GTAMotorcycle.com is actually a very good souce to get information, but there are tons of other motorcycle forums and sites too.

Getting into motorcycling can be overwhelming and expensive, especially if you don't know anything about it, but it can be done somewhat cheaply (and still be safe). One day, I'll make a "How to get into motorcycling" post and show where you can save money, where you shouldn't cheap out in, how to avoid common pitfalls, and generally share my experiences getting into this new hobby.

[newt_101]

Hi,

Thought I'd introduce myself in this thread.

Started riding back in '96 on a Vespa.
Went up the ranks to a Ninja 500R, Nighthawk 650, Ninja ZX9R, and since '01 I've had my VFR800F (heavily modified) and can't find a reason to upgrade, even with the 158k I've put on it (original engine/tranny and NO I don't rev to 6k all the time lol).

I taught the FAST Phase 1 for one summer and taught the M2-Exit course at MMIC (now RTI) for one season.

Ridden lots of different bikes all over the world; Asia, Australasia, Europe, North America.

First pic is my current bike, second pic is me at the track.

Cheers!

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_sewCdI1l0uw/RyjcMC_ET7I/AAAAAAAABIs/Ix2CxpKAywU/s512/img_0035.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_sewCdI1l0uw/RyjcSS_EUTI/AAAAAAAABLw/Z-YBKouPhRw/my_vfr_800.jpg

[COSMIC5]

Nice ride man!

Hubby had a 750 VFR and ended up with a hangmans fracture after a serious accident....

Hi,

Thought I'd introduce myself in this thread.

Started riding back in '96 on a Vespa.
Went up the ranks to a Ninja 500R, Nighthawk 650, Ninja ZX9R, and since '01 I've had my VFR800F (heavily modified) and can't find a reason to upgrade, even with the 158k I've put on it (original engine/tranny and NO I don't rev to 6k all the time lol).

I taught the FAST Phase 1 for one summer and taught the M2-Exit course at MMIC (now RTI) for one season.

Ridden lots of different bikes all over the world; Asia, Australasia, Europe, North America.

First pic is my current bike, second pic is me at the track.

Cheers!

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_sewCdI1l0uw/RyjcMC_ET7I/AAAAAAAABIs/Ix2CxpKAywU/s512/img_0035.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_sewCdI1l0uw/RyjcSS_EUTI/AAAAAAAABLw/Z-YBKouPhRw/my_vfr_800.jpg

[cluless]

Just curious if any RFDer's from here show up at the weekly Thursday meets at Timmie's/Price Choppers over at Leslie/Lakeshore? We've been a couple of times and was wondering.. :)

[newt_101]

Nice ride man!

Hubby had a 750 VFR and ended up with a hangmans fracture after a serious accident....

Now THAT is not something I want to hear; hope he's better!
I find the VFR to be one of the most well-planted and stable bikes I've ridden. The linked braking system and steel braided lines work superbly.

With the exception of having to replace plastic tabs on the fairings every 2-3 times they are removed instead of screws or bolts, it's THE perfect all-round bike (racing, touring, cruising).

[newt_101]

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae12/JoeL-Toronto/Timmy%20and%20LaPaloma%20Aug%2017%2009/100_1153-1.jpg

Is this rider on the forums?
I ran into him at Dufferin Mall a couple of days ago and we shared some stories.

Marco

[afong56]

very nice pics.

i got my m2 in jul/08, however, haven't been able to ride since, as i've still been looking for a used bike. btw, m1 exit course and exam was very fun.

hopefully i'll be able to find something in the summer of 2010.

sorry to hear that

got my m2 in august of '08

put about 2k on my bike so far. . .don't wait too long!

[COSMIC5]

yes, he recovered thank god, should have died with that type of injury. He was sponsored by Honda at the time.

Now THAT is not something I want to hear; hope he's better!
I find the VFR to be one of the most well-planted and stable bikes I've ridden. The linked braking system and steel braided lines work superbly.

With the exception of having to replace plastic tabs on the fairings every 2-3 times they are removed instead of screws or bolts, it's THE perfect all-round bike (racing, touring, cruising).

[newt_101]

yes, he recovered thank god, should have died with that type of injury. He was sponsored by Honda at the time.

Glad to have him still with us.
Is he still riding? If so, what?

[COSMIC5]

no he doesn't ride anymore - it scared him too much...I have been wanting a harley myself....

Glad to have him still with us.
Is he still riding? If so, what?

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Just curious if any RFDer's from here show up at the weekly Thursday meets at Timmie's/Price Choppers over at Leslie/Lakeshore? We've been a couple of times and was wondering.. :)

I have, but its mostly a pose/show off thing, not very efficient use of time imho.

Is this rider on the forums?
I ran into him at Dufferin Mall a couple of days ago and we shared some stories.


not on RFD, but a good guy! he does motorcycle painting and bodywork and stuff

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

bump, ride today, scarb ride! meet @ Lawrence & Brimley tim hortons @ 1:30pm

[newt_101]

bump, ride today, scarb ride! meet @ Lawrence & Brimley tim hortons @ 1:30pm

I haven't gone riding with a group in years, if the weather holds up for another hour or so, I'll see you guys there.

Marco
Yellow VFR

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

I haven't gone riding with a group in years, if the weather holds up for another hour or so, I'll see you guys there.

Marco
Yellow VFR

omg hi! I saw you today! hi again! too bad you didn't stick around for secret road! Neither did I!

will post pics tmrw or something.

[newt_101]

omg hi! I saw you today! hi again! too bad you didn't stick around for secret road! Neither did I!

will post pics tmrw or something.

Nice meeting you!

Looking forward to the pics; dunno if I'm in any, but still would be fun.
Nice to see so many new riders on Ninja 250s and CBR125s, makes me smile for the future, compared to when they are all jumping on 600 supersports.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Ice cream meet today! (yes I know its cold, but its ice cream)

Scoops Ice Cream
82 Lakeshore Road East (West of #10)
Mississauga, ON L5G 1E1
(905) 278-2653

Meeting people at 8pm at the Timmy's located at Hwy #401 and Weston. Departure will be at 8:30.
or you can just go directly to scoops and be there at like 9pm


also I have the pics, just waiting for new page =)

if your going to the meet, plz pm me so I know to wait for you, if not cya at scoops

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

hey u guyssss guess what? im selling my motorcycle cause i forgot summer was over. lol

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=783819

[joeyjoejoe]

hey u guyssss guess what? im selling my motorcycle cause i forgot summer was over. lol

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=783819

That sucks you are selling your bike. I just finished my course at RTI (passed :D Woohoo!) and they had a bunch of CBR 125's there. They are definitely fun little bikes. If a training course uses these, then you know beginners can handle them.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

That sucks you are selling your bike. I just finished my course at RTI (passed :D Woohoo!) and they had a bunch of CBR 125's there. They are definitely fun little bikes. If a training course uses
these, then you know beginners can handle them.


lol ya, no rush tho, srsly i looked at the calender and i was liek "WTF? ITS SEPT ALREADY" plus its been cold outside recently...

bump, also updated ice cream thing for today

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Sun Aug 30 scarb ride pics:

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6213/aug3009ride004.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7545/aug3009ride015.jpg
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/499/aug3009ride017.jpg
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5483/aug3009ride022.jpg
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9025/aug3009ride026.jpg
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2002/aug3009ride029.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9052/2385900090105281418vmyd.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/232/scarboughride087.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1851/scarboughride094.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9131/scarboughride014.jpg

^^ newt_101 @ RFD/marco's yellow VFR

[UrbanPoet]

Sun Aug 30 scarb ride pics:

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6213/aug3009ride004.jpg


I think that asian guy in all black with a hoody lives in my neighborhood...

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

I think that asian guy in all black with a hoody lives in my neighborhood...

nope, doubt it, he doesn't live in Toronto, I know cause I have him on facebook


more pics:

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3944/scarboughride103.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/1741/scarboughride071.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5439/scarboughride100.jpg


^^ the police that stopped the group for a lil chat. "Hey, it's 50 back there and everyone was doing 80 to 100".... "Sweet, no stunting charge!" ... "Keep it slower please. Have a nice day."
/end pics

[oeketer]

I live in the Summit building across from the st. louis wings on king st. Every wed night I always see the bikes lined up... wondered which group it was...is it an RFD bike meet or just a bunch of bikers that get together there on wed nights. Was thinking of going to one, even tho I don't have my bike yet

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

I live in the Summit building across from the st. louis wings on king st. Every wed night I always see the bikes lined up... wondered which group it was...is it an RFD bike meet or just a bunch of bikers that get together there on wed nights. Was thinking of going to one, even tho I don't have my bike yet

it's a bunch of bikers! You should go, its not bad.

[newt_101]

Cool pics, thanks for posting!
Why are u selling your bike?
Why not just keep it for next year?

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Cool pics, thanks for posting!
Why are u selling your bike?
Why not just keep it for next year?

no rush to sell, its such a hassle to store it from dec-apr


also adding more rides and stuff now

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

bump

125/250 ride tmrw! meeting in Oakville/Burlington 10am

-noob friendly/m1 friendly

requirements:
- a 125cc or 250cc motorcycle
- ability to ride in a group
- know how to operate a motorcycle

small group as far as i know atm, less than 8 bikes all 125s i think, pm me if u wanna go and ill give u info

we have a harley sweeping and a 125 leading =)

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

today!!!! also in the future, dont be shy, its like mini RFD meets, but with motorcycles!

edit: yay got 1 pm from an RFDer who wants to go today! woot

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

great ride, you noobs should've came! I am dissapointed at the RFDer who wanted to come but didn't show, partially my fault I guess cause I didnt check the pm till this morn but still, enough time to get there! =/

meh, next time! srs, you guys need to come out more and stop going on RFD =P

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

so who's goin tmrw for some wings?

[pulpman07]

I'm thinking about learning to ride and maybe getting my own bike. But before I think about all this. What is insurance like on bikes? Also, I'm only about 5'5" 5'6" am I too short to ride? If not where do I start? Thanks for the help guys :)

[UrbanPoet]

I'm thinking about learning to ride and maybe getting my own bike. But before I think about all this. What is insurance like on bikes? Also, I'm only about 5'5" 5'6" am I too short to ride? If not where do I start? Thanks for the help guys :)

Insurance is expensive.
go for something small like a CBR125 or a 250CC... or a standard/cruiser style bike in 250. Although most kids don't like that these days...
Stick it out for a year and your insurance will go down.

As far as height... My bro is 5'3 and rode a Ninja 600cc
I know of someone else who is a 5' girl riding a CBR600.
If height is a big concern ride a cruiser. They sit very low... some with 28inch seat heights which is really low...

Its very possible.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

^ great info, added to the op link to this post

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

short vid of me being 2 upped by a female: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMhINE1xEc4
^ (its her first time)

sept 6 noob ride pics:
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9546/sept609ride006.jpg
^ Thumbs up! everything is good to go!
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/260/090609125650.jpg
^ me lol-ing cause im going to be 2upped by a girl her first time!
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/739/090609150318.jpg
^ yo were the power rangers yo!
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1636/sept609ride002.jpg
^ all the bikes that showed up
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7540/sept609ride008.jpg
^ a kawi 250 and cbr125s and a harley as sweep!
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6245/sept609ride010.jpg
^ also GS500F in the back too
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8056/sept609ride012.jpg
^ downhill dirt road bumpy!
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8099/sept609ride013.jpg
^ downhill dirt road bumpy again, diff bikes
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9636/sept609ride0161.jpg
^ joyce! <3 <3 <3
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5980/sept609ride0171.jpg
^ take me home, country roadss, to the place I belong!

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

not going to bbq tmrw, BUT there's a ride tonight(yes last min lol),

If your Markham and or area, please join me and another azn (he's on a 600RR)

Address:
Woodbine Ave & 16th Ave Tim Hortons @ 8:30pm

cya there if you show up, there will be no pics since its not really a major thing, just a ride! 1-2hrs, come join us!

prolly will leave sharp! so don't be late! be early!

we'll prolly be goin around the richmond hill, markham and scarb area!

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Monday, September 14: Monday Meet Up for Ice Cream, Dessert, and Sweets!

Ed's Real Scoop
920 Queen Street East
Toronto, ON M4M 1J5
(416) 406-2525?

Located on Queen, just EAST of Broadview.

Meeting Time: 8pm
Location closes @ 10:30pm

For people close to the 401 and Weston. I suggest we meet at the Tim Hortons @ 7:30 and leave short thereafter.

For everybody else... SEE YOU THERE!

[cluless]

Was nice meeting you tonight, I was the one beside you on the left with the Ducati :)

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Was nice meeting you tonight, I was the one beside you on the left with the Ducati :)

I know! nice meeting you too!

See pplz! You should all get out more!

[D-3vil]

I know! nice meeting you too!

See pplz! You should all get out more!

One of these days I will join you guys...

Currently my bike is in pieces, as I keep adding extra stuff to it. Ideally this is done during the long winter months, but I usually can't wait that long once I receive an order -- the really short attention span is probably a by-product of RFD addiction. The latest addition is an automatic chain oiler that should spell the end of chain maintenance for me (excluding the periodic checks of course). A pita to install, but the rewards are great.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

One of these days I will join you guys...

Currently my bike is in pieces, as I keep adding extra stuff to it. Ideally this is done during the long winter months, but I usually can't wait that long once I receive an order -- the really short attention span is probably a by-product of RFD addiction. The latest addition is an automatic chain oiler that should spell the end of chain maintenance for me (excluding the periodic checks of course). A pita to install, but the rewards are great.

omg an automatic chain oiler? wtf h4x! srsly tho, those things exist?
link/pics plz!


-------------

also, attention all CBR 125R owners, there is a meet Saturday Sept 19th in North York! we'll be pampered too I heard!

pm me if you have a cbr 125r and are interested in going and ill get u the details!

edit: lol i just realized i dont have a 125R anymore since I just sold it....crap...I guess i'll have to get one for the meet!

[ElvaSoShexai]

I passed the RTI course for getting the M2 a while back. My M1 expires next week but DriveTest Centres are all closed due to the strike.

Is it possible to upgrade to the M2 before my license expires? Or will it be extended due to the strike?

The letter from RTI says the course results are valid for 6 months... my M1 still needs to be valid when I go to the DriveTest Centre right?

Not sure what to do...

[UrbanPoet]

I passed the RTI course for getting the M2 a while back. My M1 expires next week but DriveTest Centres are all closed due to the strike.

Is it possible to upgrade to the M2 before my license expires? Or will it be extended due to the strike?

The letter from RTI says the course results are valid for 6 months... my M1 still needs to be valid when I go to the DriveTest Centre right?

Not sure what to do...

I got my M1 upgraded to M2 @ a service ontario kiosk... @ Yonge and College.
They can do this during the strike!

[D-3vil]

Here you go: http://www.pro-oiler.com/gallery_htm/gallery_sprst955_main.htm

omg an automatic chain oiler? wtf h4x! srsly tho, those things exist?
link/pics plz!


-------------

also, attention all CBR 125R owners, there is a meet Saturday Sept 19th in North York! we'll be pampered too I heard!

pm me if you have a cbr 125r and are interested in going and ill get u the details!

edit: lol i just realized i dont have a 125R anymore since I just sold it....crap...I guess i'll have to get one for the meet!

[ElvaSoShexai]

I got my M1 upgraded to M2 @ a service ontario kiosk... @ Yonge and College.
They can do this during the strike!

there is an additional fee to use that service through right?

[shoe]

I got my M1 upgraded to M2 @ a service ontario kiosk... @ Yonge and College.
They can do this during the strike!

You went to the KIOSK??? I waited for over 3 hours to get it done in person at the service ontario office at the same location (college park).

Are you sure it was the kiosk?

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

bump, im done for the season I think. see you all next season if I still have a bike!

[UrbanPoet]

there is an additional fee to use that service through right?

You went to the KIOSK??? I waited for over 3 hours to get it done in person at the service ontario office at the same location (college park).

Are you sure it was the kiosk?

Sorry...
By kiosk, I meant that big "all in one" office that handles multiple government services.
You take a # and wait. I waited a bit over 1 hour for mine =(

[joeyjoejoe]

Got my M2 today!

Went to 777 Bay St at 8am, got a number, upgraded my M1 to M2 and out the door in about 10-12 minutes!

Just to add to UrbanPoet's posts:

For those that want to write ANY (G1, M1, etc) written test or if you want to upgrade from an M1 to M2 (assuming you got the sealed envelope), then you can do both of these things at ServiceOntario (777 Bay St only). Let me state that again... 777 Bay St is the ONLY ServiceOntario location where you can write your M1 or upgrade to M2 during the strike.

Also go early. The website states that they open at 8:30am, but they actually open at 8:00am.

[UrbanPoet]

I got a new bike!!!!

1978 Honda CB400 HAWWWKKKK
Still runs good, in good shape, even the seat is mint.

I'll join the RFD group rides next year.

[joeyjoejoe]

I got a new bike!!!!

1978 Honda CB400 HAWWWKKKK
Still runs good, in good shape, even the seat is mint.

I'll join the RFD group rides next year.

1978... new? Just kidding! Congrats!

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

I got a new bike!!!!

1978 Honda CB400 HAWWWKKKK
Still runs good, in good shape, even the seat is mint.

I'll join the RFD group rides next year.

NICE! proud of you mang! I wanted to do that route too, it was actually quite reasonable to insure older bikes! same as a 125 kinda!

Plus you feel like you're going fast like all the time when you're actually not!

You can achieve what sport bikes can at like 60, while they have to reach like 200+

idk, for me the riding season isn't over yet. It's just dying down as there aren't that many rides cause everyone doesn't like cold.

I will try and see if I can still post rides as I get them.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

On Saturday, November 21st GTA Motorcycle will be hosting it's second annual Charity Toy Drive Benefitting Children's Aid Foundation. This is a great opportunity for us to give back to our community since the date is just around the corner from the holidays. Many children throughout the GTA count on the Children's Aid Foundation for their Christmas gifts annually.

Date: Saturday, November 21st
Time: 6:00pm
Where: Cafe Mirage - 117 Eglinton Avenue EAST, Toronto (two blocks east of Yonge)
Cost per ticket: $30 in advance, $35 at the door

Please join us for a delicious 3 course meal followed by a draw for door prizes which incldues an introduction to motorcycle course, introduction to scooter course, gear, parts and other great swag. Last but not least, we will have a single's auction! There are lots of hotties up for bid! Don't miss out on this awesome opportunity to buy yourself a date, get a tax receipt for it and have a great evening of dancing!

The restaurant will be serving $4 MARTINIS. If you require a vegetarian meal, please let us know in advanced!

TICKET SALES START ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 13TH. Tickets can be purchased online through paypal to: gtamtoydrive@hotmail.com We will be forwarding your ticket electronically.

The foundation has requested that all donations of toys should be in new condition. We are also working to ensure that you will receive a tax receipt your toy donation, however your toy donation must be accompanied with a receipt and the toy's cost must exceed $10. For those of you who are pressed for time and will not be able to contribute a toy, you are welcomed to make a cash donation at the reception table.


Facebook group created: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=152212448777

Because alcohol is being served and if you are planning on drinking during the evening, we encourage you to have a designated driver for the evening. Please drink responsibly and don't drink and drive!

CHARITY REGISTRATION #: 108076480-RR0001

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

bump, did I mention I am selling my motorcycle? it's in my for sale thread!

[shoe]

Not to hijack the thread or get off topic or anything but I know that some of you know GoldieTiger (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/members/goldietiger-13914/) from here and GTAM. She was hit by a pickup truck on the weekend. Further info can be found on GTAM in the fallen riders section. I won't post a link because I'm not sure of RFD's policy on external links.

Well wishes can be sent to her facebook. Do NOT call or text her.

[UrbanPoet]

NICE! proud of you mang! I wanted to do that route too, it was actually quite reasonable to insure older bikes! same as a 125 kinda!

Plus you feel like you're going fast like all the time when you're actually not!

You can achieve what sport bikes can at like 60, while they have to reach like 200+

idk, for me the riding season isn't over yet. It's just dying down as there aren't that many rides cause everyone doesn't like cold.

I will try and see if I can still post rides as I get them.

way to cold... I still do the daily 5 minutes because thats what you gotta do to keep these old bikes "fresh".
But I'm thinking of putting it away soon.

[gamer123]

im not a biker, but im guessing you guys will soon store your bikes and start driving instead?

[joeyjoejoe]

Not to hijack the thread or get off topic or anything but I know that some of you know GoldieTiger (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/members/goldietiger-13914/) from here and GTAM. She was hit by a pickup truck on the weekend. Further info can be found on GTAM in the fallen riders section. I won't post a link because I'm not sure of RFD's policy on external links.

Well wishes can be sent to her facebook. Do NOT call or text her.

Wow that's sad news! I don't know her personally, but I've heard of her on GTAM. Judging from the 24 pages of replies, she must be quite popular. Someone told me that she's got the same taste in helmets that I do (we even have the same avatar showing our indentical helmet design). But reading the posts, I'm glad that her injuries are not permanent and that she should make a full recovery. Hope she's doing well.

[joeyjoejoe]

im not a biker, but im guessing you guys will soon store your bikes and start driving instead?

I was invovled in an accident about 11-12 days ago... It was low impact and I just have skinned knees (nothing like what happened to Goldie). Unfortunately, the a**hole that hit me, took off! So I'm stuck with the damages. My bike needs a few new parts, but I'm not giving up on riding this season. My bike is patched up (mostly cosmetic damage), but I still need a left mirror. Once I get that, I'll be back on the road! Next week 14C... no excuse not to ride!

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

I was thinking of posting the goldie info here, but I wasn't sure if I should, but I guess someone decided to post!

ya hope she recovers soon!

im not a biker, but im guessing you guys will soon store your bikes and start driving instead?

I use both! just the motorcycle more! You planning an RFD meet /w cars? ;P

I was invovled in an accident about 11-12 days ago... It was low impact and I just have skinned knees (nothing like what happened to Goldie). Unfortunately, the a**hole that hit me, took off! So I'm stuck with the damages. My bike needs a few new parts, but I'm not giving up on riding this season. My bike is patched up (mostly cosmetic damage), but I still need a left mirror. Once I get that, I'll be back on the road! Next week 14C... no excuse not to ride!

YO U SHOULD, im down for a ride Fri-Sun, (mon-thurs im busy, skool) jsut let me know when.



ALSO anybody free tonight and itching to ride like I am? I might do a quickie in Richmond Hill, leaving soon, pm me before 7:30pm if you wanna join and ill send u info

[joeyjoejoe]

I was thinking of posting the goldie info here, but I wasn't sure if I should, but I guess someone decided to post!

ya hope she recovers soon!



I use both! just the motorcycle more! You planning an RFD meet /w cars? ;P



YO U SHOULD, im down for a ride Fri-Sun, (mon-thurs im busy, skool) jsut let me know when.



ALSO anybody free tonight and itching to ride like I am? I might do a quickie in Richmond Hill, leaving soon, pm me before 7:30pm if you wanna join and ill send u info

I could ride. But the left mirror is key. It felt really dangerous not having that when I rode the bike home from getting my fairings patched up. Everyone is OOS for these mirrors, but I did find someone who might be willing to sell. Hopefully, I can pick it up this weekend.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

I could ride. But the left mirror is key. It felt really dangerous not having that when I rode the bike home from getting my fairings patched up. Everyone is OOS for these mirrors, but I did find someone who might be willing to sell. Hopefully, I can pick it up this weekend.

Any updates? did you get a new mirror?

anyhow anyone wanna ride this week? I am free all week mon-fri 9am-9pm

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

bump, sooo bored any 1 up for a ride in an hour or so?

ill be doing some roads in burlington/waterdown/hamilton

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

bump, free up your weekend saturday and or sunday, gonna do some bumpy roads in burlington! baby are you down down down down down down, dooowwwnn, dowwwwnn, even when the sky is falling down.

but srsly, jay sean is awesome.

srsly, so far its me and some other azn guy lolol

post here or pm me if you want in

deadline to post/pm: Friday 11:59pm EST

posted on RFD only! looking for a small group 4 to 7 , large groups = too hard to manage!

[UrbanPoet]

I just got a bottle of Stabil. Sigh.

[mikep]

im not a biker, but im guessing you guys will soon store your bikes and start driving instead?

I keep one bike up north, and just got back from riding my main bike to Florida. The Diva gets to spend winter every year down there since I got her in 2006. When I am lucky enough, I get to go down and visit her and take her for a ride.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

I just got a bottle of Stabil. Sigh.

boo, this means nothing, cause you haven't added any yet!

so any 1 from RFD in for a ride sat/sun?

[Jungle]

WHO here is missing thier bikes already... >:(
Need to get out more next year with you guys.

[user01]

For the Kawasaki Ninja 250R, how much would the estimated insurance be for someone who is under 25 years old? Btw, I am in my low 20s. I used to drive a car but I abandonned as I couldn't afford it. I want to ride a motorcycle in the summer for fun. Just need to know what sort of steps I will have to take.

[shoe]

Call up some insurance companies and find out. Ballparking doesn't give you an accurate quote and NONE of the online quoters I've tried are accurate. Best online quoter i've seen is Rider's Plus's website but they only insure mature (over 25) riders.

Aside from your age, the bike (CC's) and your driving record, WHERE you live/the bike will be kept will affect your premiums.

Just to throw you something, I know a guy who's 22 and rides an '07 or '08 Ninja 250. He lives in Etobicoke. I think he pays around $1800.

Call different insurance companies and brokers. Prices can vary GREATLY between companies. Statefarm wanted $2400/yr for me. I ended up with Jevco - I pay half of what SF wanted for similiar coverage.

[shoe]

WHO here is missing thier bikes already... >:(
Need to get out more next year with you guys.

Missing bikes?? I'm still riding! I'm just laughing at all the people that have been out these past 3 days riding. Probably have to re-winterize their bikes all over again. I was out riding last week at 2C only a few ppl out at that time. Multiple layers and grip heaters FTW!

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

...Friday 13th...Port Dover.....who's going? I'd go but I have school.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Second Last ride (Sunday Nov 22nd)

Time - 10:30 AM - (will leave @ 11:00 AM)
Place - Dundas and Walkers (Tim Hortons)

[makaveli86]

This thread has been extremely helpful. As I believe the riding season is over, everyone is packing it in.

However, people like me (those who are planning to get their M license this winter) are rather excited. So my concern (like others here) are insurance rates for new drivers.

I'm a 23 university student that's looking to invest in a 600cc bike that'll allow me to get around during the summer. I know I should start smaller, saves on insurance and risks, but i've recieved the Suzuki 600 as a gift and would like to use it.

I've had my G class license for over 6 years with any accidents or tickets. Getting a bike, is there a range in what people should expect to pay yearly? My parents don't have a M license, so can't put myself as a part time driver (like I currently due with my car). Should I stay with my parents insurance policy, or will insurance companies give a new client a lower rate?

I wish to ride the bike, but insurance is always an annoyance. Living in Toronto, so not sure how much that matters (I assume rates will be higher than elsewhere?)

Any help would be appreciated, seriously, can't say thanks enough. RFD's community is what has me coming back daily.

[afong56]

This thread has been extremely helpful. As I believe the riding season is over, everyone is packing it in.

However, people like me (those who are planning to get their M license this winter) are rather excited. So my concern (like others here) are insurance rates for new drivers.

I'm a 23 university student that's looking to invest in a 600cc bike that'll allow me to get around during the summer. I know I should start smaller, saves on insurance and risks, but i've recieved the Suzuki 600 as a gift and would like to use it.

I've had my G class license for over 6 years with any accidents or tickets. Getting a bike, is there a range in what people should expect to pay yearly? My parents don't have a M license, so can't put myself as a part time driver (like I currently due with my car). Should I stay with my parents insurance policy, or will insurance companies give a new client a lower rate?

I wish to ride the bike, but insurance is always an annoyance. Living in Toronto, so not sure how much that matters (I assume rates will be higher than elsewhere?)

Any help would be appreciated, seriously, can't say thanks enough. RFD's community is what has me coming back daily.

hopefully the insurance agents on this thread will pipe in, but i don't think that even if your parents had m licenses they could put you on their policy.

as a parent, i was told quite clearly that once we got past 2 vehicles (one each for my wife and i), the third vehicle would be priced with my 16 yr old as primary driver--no exceptions.

iirc, with the motorcycle, you will be the primary driver, no matter what. your rates probably not be any better with your parents' policy/company, since so few companies actually bother to do motorcycle insurance.

since i am much older than you, i got decent rates anyways, so i went with john duffy insurance brokers, and they sold me a policy through jevco.

i understand from many younger riders that state farm doesn't factor in the type of bike, and goes only on cc--this is probably your best move.

good luck, and if you have any other questions, take a stroll over to gtamotorcycle.com--lots of info there, including insurance questions

[Jungle]

As said, the insurance section on GTAM forum will answer your questions. Pretty much for us in the GTA, it's statefarm if you're over 25 and riders choice if you're under 25. Don't quote me on the second one though, check GTAM.

[shoe]

This thread has been extremely helpful. As I believe the riding season is over, everyone is packing it in.

However, people like me (those who are planning to get their M license this winter) are rather excited. So my concern (like others here) are insurance rates for new drivers.

Good luck in getting your M license this winter. M2 exit tests aren't done in the winter. I'm assuming that you already have your M2 and have passed the 18 (with a course) to 22 month wait period at the M2 level.

I'm a 23 university student that's looking to invest in a 600cc bike that'll allow me to get around during the summer. I know I should start smaller, saves on insurance and risks, but i've recieved the Suzuki 600 as a gift and would like to use it.

Nothing wrong with a 600. The Super Sport bikes are the ones you need to be careful on. I've been riding a sport touring 600 for almost 3 months. Had a few close calls but not related to the engine displacement. IMO, anything smaller than 600cc is a toy or for urban use.
You mentioned a gift Suzuki 600... it would help if you specified the model. If it's a GSX600R aka a Gixxer, expect to pay big insurance premiums for it.

I've had my G class license for over 6 years with any accidents or tickets. Getting a bike, is there a range in what people should expect to pay yearly? My parents don't have a M license, so can't put myself as a part time driver (like I currently due with my car). Should I stay with my parents insurance policy, or will insurance companies give a new client a lower rate?
I wish to ride the bike, but insurance is always an annoyance. Living in Toronto, so not sure how much that matters (I assume rates will be higher than elsewhere?)
Any help would be appreciated, seriously, can't say thanks enough. RFD's community is what has me coming back daily.

Bike insurance is pretty much like car insurance. You're going to be paying a little more to start because you're a "new driver". You may have a G class license and an M (M2?) but you need a few years of motorcycle insurance to establish a history of experience. This is the same thing like a 16 year old newly licensed driver. Other things about you as an individual will affect your policy as well. Yes, we do pay more in Toronto.... you'll have to pay the Miller license plate tax on your bike ($30) and insurance wise, your premiums will be higher than if you lived out of town.

I suggest you shop around. Your parent's insurance company may not even insure motorcycles! My insurance company (TD) insures bikes through a separate arm - Primmum Insurance. Even with multi vehicle discount, they were still INSANELY expensive. Most people go with State Farm to start. State Farm rates their bikes based on engine displacement and don't surcharge for class. I.E. a 600 cruiser is the same as a 600 super sport even though the super sport is faster.

Since you already have the bike- first you said you'd like to invest in a bike and then you say you have one as a gift - I suggest you call some insurance companies/agents and ask for quotations. I'm with Jevco Ins. through a broker. I went with them because they gave me the cheapest quote.
Another thing you'll learn is that most older bikes don't carry comprehensive insurance. When I was shopping around, a LOT of people were telling me, " Yeah, I only pay $500 a year and $800 a year" etc... Well the thing is that most of these people had their full M licenses, more than 2 years of insurance continuously and didn't fully insure their bikes.

One more thing. People that tell you they only insure their bikes for 1/2 the year and then cut it off in the winter are full of it. Every company I've talked to has a staggered premium structure... you pay a bigger chunk of your annual premium - maybe %70 during the peak riding months.. June - Sept. (I'm ballparking here but the concept is the same). So cutting coverage during non-riding periods saves you very little and your insurer may not reinstate your policy in the spring if you keep canceling and renewing your policy.

[woobie]

I'm a 23 university student that's looking to invest in a 600cc bike that'll allow me to get around during the summer. I know I should start smaller, saves on insurance and risks, but i've recieved the Suzuki 600 as a gift and would like to use it.


Suzuki makes several 600cc bikes until you say what type is is asking for insurances quotes is useless. There's a the GSX-R, GSXF Katana, GSX600 Bandit and then there's the cruisers on top of that.



I've had my G class license for over 6 years with any accidents or tickets. Getting a bike, is there a range in what people should expect to pay yearly? My parents don't have a M license, so can't put myself as a part time driver (like I currently due with my car). Should I stay with my parents insurance policy, or will insurance companies give a new client a lower rate?


Bike insurance is based on the highest risk rider. So let's say your Dad had a bike, has ridden for years accident free etc etc. If you lived at home with him and got your Bike license his insurance rates will be based on your age and experience.

Also, and again this depends on what 600 you have, some insurance companies won't insure you if it's a GSXR, others will hit you with a surcharge. Jevco for instance has a 300% surcharge on super sports.

[makaveli86]

hopefully the insurance agents on this thread will pipe in, but i don't think that even if your parents had m licenses they could put you on their policy.

as a parent, i was told quite clearly that once we got past 2 vehicles (one each for my wife and i), the third vehicle would be priced with my 16 yr old as primary driver--no exceptions.

iirc, with the motorcycle, you will be the primary driver, no matter what. your rates probably not be any better with your parents' policy/company, since so few companies actually bother to do motorcycle insurance.

since i am much older than you, i got decent rates anyways, so i went with john duffy insurance brokers, and they sold me a policy through jevco.

i understand from many younger riders that state farm doesn't factor in the type of bike, and goes only on cc--this is probably your best move.

good luck, and if you have any other questions, take a stroll over to gtamotorcycle.com--lots of info there, including insurance questions

thankyou so much, just joined the site, can't wait to read over the info at the site.

In terms of monthly rates, you mind if I ask what range your paying? I'm pretty new to all this, but we as bike owners pay the same rate throughout the year I assume? There's no "generous" rate over the winter, I'm I naive to even think such a thing may exist?

[makaveli86]

Sorry shouldve explained it is indeed a gsxr 600 :$ *cringes at what you guys are going to say :(*

[woobie]

Sorry shouldve explained it is indeed a gsxr 600 :$ *cringes at what you guys are going to say :(*

what year?

Just a guess I'd say $2500+, but I start calling around to brokers to get a "real" quote.

http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=96984 for some younger riders and what their paying.

[shoe]

thankyou so much, just joined the site, can't wait to read over the info at the site.

In terms of monthly rates, you mind if I ask what range your paying? I'm pretty new to all this, but we as bike owners pay the same rate throughout the year I assume? There's no "generous" rate over the winter, I'm I naive to even think such a thing may exist?

Just call some agents. You've already said you have a bike so what does it matter? You're going to have to get insurance anyway. What other people pay isn't going to change what an agent or broker quotes you.

If I were you, I'd use the bike for pleasure activities only. Using it for work or school / commuting increases your risk of an accident and thus your premiums. This is just like car insurance. Once you've got your coverage, how you use the vehicle is up to you.

[makaveli86]

Just call some agents. You've already said you have a bike so what does it matter? You're going to have to get insurance anyway. What other people pay isn't going to change what an agent or broker quotes you.

If I were you, I'd use the bike for pleasure activities only. Using it for work or school / commuting increases your risk of an accident and thus your premiums. This is just like car insurance. Once you've got your coverage, how you use the vehicle is up to you.

Well the bike was a gift, still weighing the option of selling it (prefer not to, but might have to if I'm going to have to pay $3000 a year).

Calling State Farm tomorrow, representative listed at gtamotorcycle.com seems to be respectable enough. Hopefully a reasonable quote is reached, shall see how it works out.

Thanks again, like I said, one of the best online communities around.

[Jungle]

One more thing. People that tell you they only insure their bikes for 1/2 the year and then cut it off in the winter are full of it. Every company I've talked to has a staggered premium structure... you pay a bigger chunk of your annual premium - maybe %70 during the peak riding months.. June - Sept. (I'm ballparking here but the concept is the same). So cutting coverage during non-riding periods saves you very little and your insurer may not reinstate your policy in the spring if you keep canceling and renewing your policy.

Well, I cut my insurance every winter and I am not full of it. Yes I do pay the staggered amount, but when the math is done, I still save a few hundred cutting it off for the winter. Plus, I do not like to pay for a service, when I am not using it. This is money wasted. Statefarm has always taken me back after. Besides, in this fragile economy, they are not going to no, to paying customers with good records.

[woobie]

Well, I cut my insurance every winter and I am not full of it. Yes I do pay the staggered amount, but when the math is done, I still save a few hundred cutting it off for the winter. Plus, I do not like to pay for a service, when I am not using it. This is money wasted. Statefarm has always taken me back after. Besides, in this fragile economy, they are not going to no, to paying customers with good records.

I guess State Fame is different, I was with Kingsway (they just Tanked) and thier cancelation rates were that you get nothing back after 151 days.

here's their retained premiums on cancellation
1-30 days 15%
31-60 32%
61-90 49%
91-120 66%
121-150 83%
151+ 100%

[Jungle]

I guess State Fame is different, I was with Kingsway (they just Tanked) and thier cancelation rates were that you get nothing back after 151 days.

here's their retained premiums on cancellation
1-30 days 15%
31-60 32%
61-90 49%
91-120 66%
121-150 83%
151+ 100%.

Well with statefarm when I cancel, I have to pay up just over hundred, but still works out cheaper then leaving it on all winter months while it sits in storage doing nothing.

[shoe]

Jungle:

By canceling your policy, I assume you're cutting ALL coverage - fire and theft? I don't know about you man but I live in Scarborough.
I have locks and such but I can't exactly bolt my bike down where it's stored - oh and it's not stored yet... season's not over until it snows haha

When I was talking to a SF agent a few months ago while looking for coverage, I specifically asked him about canceling in the winter months and he told me that if I did it more than once, SF would not reinstate the policy.

Anyway, to each his own. If you can cut off your ins. and they're reinstate, I stand corrected. I'm just going on what I was told directly by a SF agent. Maybe he told me that because I was a potential/new client and not established like yourself.

[Jungle]

Yes when I say cancel, I mean the whole policy.

Well I agree, if you believe there is a reasonable risk of theft, keep the theft coverage on.

Statefarm offices are run by different agents so I guess they can include their own rules. If he is not flexible you can go to another agent. Same rates, different office.

Your Statefarm agent knows he will lose money by canceling in the winter. Personally I would tell him fine, you just lost my business for next year, then sign up with another agent that wants your money. The underwriter will not ban you for cancelling in the winter. This is an agent thing. And a dumb business move for returning customers, too.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Pics from Nov 22 2009 ride:

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/897/nov22niagara024.jpg
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7915/nov22niagara034.jpg
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2367/nov22niagara097.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1009/nov22niagara104.jpg
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/9126/nov22niagara106.jpg
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/613/nov22niagara110.jpg
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/2547/nov22niagara123.jpg
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/3645/nov22niagara150.jpg
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/3225/nov22niagara159.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/448/nov22niagara161.jpg

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

final pics:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4056/nov22niagara222.jpg
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8247/nov22niagara250.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/435/nov22niagara252.jpg
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4273/nov22niagara278.jpg
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9324/nov22niagara289.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8869/nov22niagara290.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3633/nov22niagara297.jpg

[woobie]

Great pics!! Maybe it'll be sunny for a few hours this weekend and I can get the Kat out for a spin :).

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Great pics!! Maybe it'll be sunny for a few hours this weekend and I can get the Kat out for a spin :).

Halton ride Saturday Nov 28nd- 11:00 AM - Dundas and Appleby Line

I am in! who else is in?

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Great Ride today! Someone from RFD showed up! Vrus!

will post pics soon

[user01]

Great Ride today! Someone from RFD showed up! Vrus!

will post pics soon

Looks fun and very promising. Wish I had a bike to ride around.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

pics from nov 28th ride, sorry not that many just 3

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6434/nov212009004.jpg
^ (in order left to right)El Zilcho, AzN_RiverdaleCI, WB, DHB and Lynz(yes shes a woman) *zomgz women + motorcycle = win*
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9018/nov212009005.jpg
^ OMG ITS VRUS from RFD posing with his sv650
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7424/nov212009009.jpg

[GoldieTiger]

Not to hijack the thread or get off topic or anything but I know that some of you know GoldieTiger (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/members/goldietiger-13914/) from here and GTAM. She was hit by a pickup truck on the weekend. Further info can be found on GTAM in the fallen riders section. I won't post a link because I'm not sure of RFD's policy on external links.

Well wishes can be sent to her facebook. Do NOT call or text her.

Thanks shoe!
I just got back home from rehab a few days ago and just saw the post.;)

Thx to everyone else for your wishes & concerns!
http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=104509