Lotto Pool v.5 SUPER 7 *~$27MiLLiON JackPot~* Dec 15,2006 (281 tickets so far)

[UrbanPoet]

NEW LOTTERY POOL! version 5.0
Draw Date is Dec 15th, 2006.
$27,000,000 JACK POT!
This jackpot is huge!

about the pool
RFD lottery pools have always been a success. The most tickets ever in a pool was 155 in v.4! So far i ran 4 of these with great success.
version 1.0 (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=360380) dead (won total $10)
version 2.0 (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=366257) dead (won total $30)
version 3.0 (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=370889) re-pooled once (won total $43)
version 4.0 (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=371968) re-pooled once (won total $50)
Version 5.0 (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4301437#post4301437) (wont total $120)

updated as of Jan 2rd, 2006 11:46pm
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updates as of Dec 27th, 2006 10:13pm
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Tickets from the last draw "carried over" for the first time (carry on 1)
So everyone in this pool is still in the game theres 94 tickets unless i counted wrong.
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http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/812/carryon12ul6.jpg
http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/9945/carryon13ga3.jpg
http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/6951/carryon14nn2.jpg


Scans of Super 7 tickets for the dec 15th, 2006 draw.
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http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/641/dec150602ug3.jpg
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/2236/dec150603qq0.jpg
http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/6175/dec150604mb8.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4608/dec150605tk9.jpg
http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/1014/dec150606er6.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/9302/dec150607tv3.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6743/dec150608bq2.jpg

List of Players
(if you dont put your RFD name in the payment note ill just post your Email w/parts of it **** out for spam avoidance purposes.)

1. UrbanPoet 10
2. Captin Howdy 4
3. micronta 1
4. B40 2
5.[B] heatseeker (sorry!) 2
6. constant_change 9
7. majaess (sorry!) 7
8. Clvn 7
9. Shen 11
10. M.D. 2
11. Cyber6 3
12. kit0828 4
13. Bunkhouse 10
14. go_habs 3
15. joey3k 3
16. spaceTraveler 4
17. VladK 10
18. gregv 4
19. Osaka 5
20. Scribblez 2
21. Ben Doone 2
22. sw1ft 3
23. cube11 3
24. KAMLOOPS 3
25. DJXP 2
26. j3fan 2
27. aw3s0me 3
28. tkyoshi 2
29. adamtheman 6
30. MonkeyRPN 3
31. that_staples_guy 3
32. guigz18@*****.com 3
33. kenj 3
[COLOR="Red"]34. webslinger 41
35. Poppa 2
36. wojzuk 3
37. Cospa 2
38. Kero_1116 1
39. Royal 5
40. MrDisco 26
41. hellfire 5
42. Dealz-4-U 1
43. Fledgling 4
44. japcutie 1
45. chlorine and ttper 10
46. jaobserver@****.com 1
47. chococrazy 1
48. importpsycho 23
49. neoteric 3
50. clkio 1
51. ids748 1
52. MtX 1
53. purple_rabbit 2
54. Impala 5
55. Jin2ook (ian) 1

TOTAL: 281 tickets.

record has been SMASHED....
Common guys! we had an amazing 155 tickets last time. Lets see if we can match it. YOu never know. We might get lucky for the holiday season ;)
Remember if we win... we're showing up to accept the prize in RED tshirts :D






[SIZE="1"]FAQ

Q: How do we know you wont run off with the money?
A: I dont snoop around RFD. ive been an active member for quite some time. Ive also met dozens of RFD users face to face @ meets. Alot of the players i actally met outside of RFD and some even go to my school.
Paypal isnt exactly anonymous either. If you look @ my previous pools, they have always been a success

Q: why do you do this? and whats the benifits of playing a Lottery Pool?
A: to try and win a million bucks. I find the lottery pool fun to organize. It gives me and other people a better chance of winning too.
Lottery pools have a better chance of winning because everyone puts their tickets together.
eg. IF you just buy 1 lottery ticket a week, you only get one chance.
But if you put your 1 lottery ticket into a pool with 100 people... You guys have 100 chances of winnings instead of just 1. The only downside is that you must split the jackpot winnings among the people in the pool.

Q: What happens if we win the jackpot or a large prize?
A: A large prize would be split with the following formula which ensures equal share based on how many tickets you bought.
(# of tickets purchased by Person X)/(total tickets purchased by the group) * (value of winning) = Person X's share of the prize.

Q: why no more direct deposit or cash payment?
A: i will now except EMT under certain conditions. It takes a bit more time to co-ordinate the emails, rather then checking through paypals.


Q: What happens if its a minor prize? say $5 or $10?
A: The money will be put into Daily Keno. Or other lotteries as suggested by players. These tickets that are "carried on" will only be applicaple to the people that participated in that it was carried on from pool.

Q: how do u keep track of so many pools?
A: I bought a filing folder envelope with tabs marked w/ each date & version #. I also have a folder and subfolders on my computer seperating all pools, results, winnings, and carried on tickets. Therse also an elaborate excel spread sheet that helps me keep track.

Q: Can i paypal you $2? I dont wanna pay extra ...
A: NO! please dont low ball a lottery group buy that i volunteer my own personal time to organize. I already stated in the thread paypal eats FEEs... alot of them.

Q: Common... ill give you $1.50 for a ticket. Best price i give you!
A: Go fcuk your self >=D

Thanks to Mr Disco for the formula
Thanks to B40 for excel spread sheet to organize tickets and winnings

[Captin Howdy]

I'll start it off

$10 :razz:


Thanks OP for organizing another one :)

[UrbanPoet]

why are you guys letting people people add in different amounts. The whole point of a pool is so that everyone shares in the winnings. Whens the last time you heard a group of lotto winners splitting it differently 32 ways. Think of the headaches you'll have if you win, regardless of how well you think your formula works.

The formula does work.... plus i have proof of each payment.
PAypal documents EVERYthing..
so they cant say "yo i paid $10...." then i look @ their paypal and they pay $6...
see what im saying brotha?

And its not just a formula... its a SPREAD SHEET!:D

[B40]

why are you guys letting people people add in different amounts. The whole point of a pool is so that everyone shares in the winnings. Whens the last time you heard a group of lotto winners splitting it differently 32 ways. Think of the headaches you'll have if you win, regardless of how well you think your formula works.

it's a simple formula..
( $ contributed / total $ contributed ) * winnings

i'm not sure what you mean by 'regardless of how well you think your formula works' - it's math.. it always works :|

the whole point is to add flexbility so everyone can particpate wether they want 1 or 20 tickets. the whole point of a pool is to get access to a large amount of tickets without putting in that much money... it's not to split it evenly

[UrbanPoet]

this is not ur regular lotto pool...its an RFD SUPER POOL!

[DJXP]

I think im missing it, but where is the info of where to paypal and how much it is per tix via PP.

[that_staples_guy]

I'm in for this one, hey, I don't have any more funds in my PayPal, can I send it to you via PayPal CC payment?

[that_staples_guy]

I think im missing it, but where is the info of where to paypal and how much it is per tix via PP.

He's updating it now.

[MrDisco]

will we be able to see this spreadsheet?
also where are the pics for the tickets that were bought with re-pooled money?

[PsioniC]

So when you say you won 50 dollars on the last draw, does that mean everyone who played got atleast 50 dollars? Or the group as a whole got 50 dollars and once it was split up each person only got 50 cents.

[MrDisco]

So when you say you won 50 dollars on the last draw, does that mean everyone who played got atleast 50 dollars? Or the group as a whole got 50 dollars and once it was split up each person only got 50 cents.

it means the group as a whole won $50 which he used to buy 6/49 tickets.

[Scribblez]

So when you say you won 50 dollars on the last draw, does that mean everyone who played got atleast 50 dollars? Or the group as a whole got 50 dollars and once it was split up each person only got 50 cents.

Its not a big enough win to be split. He put the $50 into 6/49 tickets. And there were also a bunch of free tickets won in the previous lottery pool for the $27 million jackpot this week. Go to any of the previous threads and he's updated them with pictures of the new tickets purchased/won there.

So if any of these free tickets in the previous pool win, the winnings will be split accordingly between everyone that contributed into THAT pool. Or it'll keep going with free tickets/small winnings until it is dead, as with the 1st and 2nd ones. So each version of the lottery pools are separate from each other.

[UrbanPoet]

it means the group as a whole won $50 which he used to buy 6/49 tickets.

i posted them =)
i will be spelling out details after my final exam on monday... after that i will do a courtesy PM to the people that shown interest in this thread, and in previous pools.
I couldnt directly post the image b/c RFD only allows about 10 pics per page to be posted...

[UrbanPoet]

will we be able to see this spreadsheet?
also where are the pics for the tickets that were bought with re-pooled money?

i cannot post spread sheets because personal information is in it.
but if you want to see the spread sheet with no info on it, just the coding send me an Email and ill show it to you.
You cant use it or copy it without the permission of B40.

[micronta]

$ sent

Ooops just noticed that you haven't put up the details yet, but I'm guessing it'll be similar to the past versions ?

[importpsycho]

what happens to tickets rolled over from last week's winning?
do they get treated as separate pool?

[UrbanPoet]

$ sent

Ooops just noticed that you haven't put up the details yet, but I'm guessing it'll be similar to the past versions ?

lol dont worry about it... its practically the same just a change in the payment structure. its just i gotta retype it :o

what happens to tickets rolled over from last week's winning?
do they get treated as separate pool?

the "carried on" or in your words "rolled over" winnings are treated as a pool only applicable to the ones that participated in the pool that it was rolled over from..

eg you participated in V.4
V.4 wins 10 free tickets
those 10 free tickets the winnings, and subsequent free tickets only apply to the people in v.4
i always try to scan them ASAP. i usually do so the day of and always before the draw (except for my 1st pool b/c i was a lotto pool noob) but after a few pools im pretty confident i developed the ULTIMATE LOOTTO POOL MACHINE!!!!

COMMON MILLION BUCKKKS!

[UrbanPoet]

alright. i updated the info. VERSION 5 is good to go.
$27 MiLLiON dollars.
Please make note of the payment structure.

[consumerPI]

Hi, I'm interested, but I do have a couple of questions:

If someone buys 5 tickets, according to your formula, they would send you $13.50 ($3 x 3 plus $2.25 x 2).

The question is, if you collect exactly $135.00 from 10 people who each buy 5 tickets, how many lines and how much are you buying in Super 7 Lottery tickets?


-$3.00 for each ticket you want to contribute to the pool
-if you contribute more then 3 tickets, each subsequent ticket you want to contribute is $2.25
Example.
The first 3 equals $9. each ticket after is $2.25.

[that_staples_guy]

I'm in for a few, I just gotta set up my CC on PayPal tomorrow.

[masterhapposai]

what if someone buys $100 in tickets

then roughly 10 of you only buy 1 ticket each

the small fries get "owned"

of course, it could be that you won because of the $100 buy in, so you'd thank him.

but, still

[MrDisco]

If someone buys 5 tickets, according to your formula, they would send you $13.50 ($3 x 3 plus $2.25 x 2).

The question is, if you collect exactly $135.00 from 10 people who each buy 5 tickets, how many lines and how much are you buying in Super 7 Lottery tickets?

if someone buys 5 'tickets' that means they are buying 5 lines (plus the 10 extra bonus lines the computer spits out; so 15 lines in total).
if 10 people each buy 5 'tickets' that means they are buying a total of 50 lines (or 150 lines in total including the free bonus lines).
50 tickets = $100. Presuembly the difference ($35) is going towards his paypal fees.

[consumerPI]

Okay,

So if I understand this, for every 50 tickets (=$100) that he buys ($2 per Super 7 ticket), he gets $35 to cover his costs/time?

if someone buys 5 'tickets' that means they are buying 5 lines (plus the 10 extra bonus lines the computer spits out; so 15 lines in total).
if 10 people each buy 5 'tickets' that means they are buying a total of 50 lines (or 150 lines in total including the free bonus lines).
50 tickets = $100. Presuembly the difference ($35) is going towards his paypal fees.

[seshwan]

The new payment structure looks eerily IDENTICAL to the last one. :mad:

[Supershyguy]

Hi, I'm interested, but I do have a couple of questions:

If someone buys 5 tickets, according to your formula, they would send you $13.50 ($3 x 3 plus $2.25 x 2).

The question is, if you collect exactly $135.00 from 10 people who each buy 5 tickets, how many lines and how much are you buying in Super 7 Lottery tickets?

well paypal will eat up a fee. probably about 3.5% - 4% plus a flat rate of 50 cent each transcation? I dont agreed with some one making money off the pool money nether (But I dont think he is making much lol), maybe he can use the left over and put it back in the pool? Not sure. just my 0.02

[constant_change]

Alright, I'm in to double it with another 9 tickets. Let's win some money!

[UrbanPoet]

i spent about 10 hours doing the last ppool.... it was 155 tickest.
If u ever print up so many lottery tickets at once, the MAchine jams and freezes if you input to many.
It can only input a max of 5 super 7 tickets @ a time...
Imagine trying to communicate with a Korean lady that doesnt know that much english whenever she is shocked to hear i want 100+ tickets... she thinks i mean 10 dollars...

[majesus]

Alright... I'm in. I'll send you money for 5 tickets.
But we should get other methods to send money as well, to cut cost from EVIL Paypal.


Hellfire was accepting money for purchasing group buy on movie tickets via bank transfers.

For instance, if you had a PC account, you can transfer money from your account to his, and it was free.

[UrbanPoet]

i tried the bank thing....
it is so hard to organize b/c 3rd party deposits are anonymous.
it just says "deposit $x.xx"
I had a system where i assigned each persona "cent value"
eg. you want 3 tickets.. thats $6.17
that way i associate their RFD name with 0.17cents...

but this took a very long time to organize and i do this pool EVERY week... not just a once in a blue movie ticket group buy.
i spent almost 10 hrs doing the last pool. I really dont wanna volunteer 15 hrs a week to do something im not getting payed for.

[that_staples_guy]

Yeah UP is busy enough as it is, let's not make it harder on him, PayPal is the easiest, so that's what we'll use.

[consumerPI]

Hi,

Just for the record, I did not state whether I agreed or disagreed with the organizer making money off of this. Personally, I don't care.

I just wanted to know what was being spent and on what exactly. If that was stated, I would not have asked.
:)

well paypal will eat up a fee. probably about 3.5% - 4% plus a flat rate of 50 cent each transcation? I dont agreed with some one making money off the pool money nether (But I dont think he is making much lol), maybe he can use the left over and put it back in the pool? Not sure. just my 0.02

[majesus]

i tried the bank thing....
it is so hard to organize b/c 3rd party deposits are anonymous.
it just says "deposit $x.xx"
I had a system where i assigned each persona "cent value"
eg. you want 3 tickets.. thats $6.17
that way i associate their RFD name with 0.17cents...

but this took a very long time to organize and i do this pool EVERY week... not just a once in a blue movie ticket group buy.
i spent almost 10 hrs doing the last pool. I really dont wanna volunteer 15 hrs a week to do something im not getting payed for.

Good point, I was just curious about it...
Thanks for doing this... :) I think the lottery pool is an awesome idea.

And good luck to us!!
Cheers.

[poppa]

So UrbanPoet, you're just pocketing the remainder after the cost of tickets and paypal fees? I don't mind if it's small, but if it's enough to increase our chances of winning (like when people buy 3 or more tickets), I think it's worth a shot to use the remainder to buy more tickets.

The question you have to ask yourself is are you in this to maximize your chances of winning or to profit off the potential to win?

[UrbanPoet]

:arrowu:
Im trying to figure out a way that people can pay EXACT change without knocking on my door (i let ppl do that in ver1... it got very annoying FAST).
im thinking of asking the korean lady if i can set up a lottery pool collection box at her store for people to drop in envelopes. But thing is. theres a risk of it getting stolen (wanksters from the local high school...), and the cornerstore owners might not like it.

I do accept exact change for lotto pools @ RFD meets tho. @ sushi on 7 i was the guy with a pocket full of twoonies :D i was able to get 14 tickets for the pool there too...

[Shen]

Paypal sent!

[Cyber6]

I got PAYPAL!!!!!! :D :D


Paypal sent........... 3 tickets to the pool !!!


C'mon baby..... momma needs a new camera !!! :twisted:



C.

[kit0828]

Payment sent! Thanks for organizing!:D

[j3fan]

i spent almost 10 hrs doing the last pool. I really dont wanna volunteer 15 hrs a week to do something im not getting payed for.

I thought you are getting paid for doing this....doesn't the million dollar check from OLGC pay for your hard work :cheesygri

[MrDisco]

Imagine trying to communicate with a Korean lady that doesnt know that much english whenever she is shocked to hear i want 100+ tickets... she thinks i mean 10 dollars...

i still dont get why you keep going to her.

[UrbanPoet]

i still dont get why you keep going to her.

okie.. the truth is. i keep going back to that same corner store b/c her daughter is hot :o it seems like she only works weekends and super7 draw is on friday and thats when i buy the tickets -_-

otherwise, its the closest corner store to my house

[MrDisco]

finally the truth comes out

[UrbanPoet]

:cheesygri
thats not the only reason tho. It saves me 5 minutes of my life... less walking.

[Anessa]

okie.. the truth is. i keep going back to that same corner store b/c her daughter is hot :o it seems like she only works weekends and super7 draw is on friday and thats when i buy the tickets -_-

otherwise, its the closest corner store to my house

The Super 7s will help you date that with your millions :cheesygri

[UrbanPoet]

The Super 7s will help you date that with your millions :cheesygri

then it wont be true love </3
im kidding. My heart is already somewhere else, i just like looking :lol:
anyways... i did my nightly update...
we're up to 48 tickets.

[majesus]

then it wont be true love </3
im kidding. My heart is already somewhere else, i just like looking :lol:


LOL...

Well, hopefully she'll bring us some good luck. Than I can afford to go and personally thank her. :cheesygri

[go_habs]

I am in paypal sent!! Come on Friday!!:D :D

[Bunkhouse]

sent payment! :D :cheesygri :o :( >:(

[VladK]

this is cool....sent my payment. :cheesygri

[gregv]

$$$$ sent.

[consumerPI]

ttt

[majesus]

Wow, ticket sales on RFD are significantly increasing from now on till the draw...


Good :)

[UrbanPoet]

we're @ 87 tickets guys!!! almost @ the 100 mark....
i got My red tee w00t

[Scribblez]

Paypal Money sent.

[CanadaBoy]

NEW LOTTERY POOL! version 5.0
Draw Date is Dec 15th, 2006.
$27,000,000 JACK POT!
This jackpot is huge!

Detailed Updated! All new players are welcome.
New payment structure


about the pool
RFD lottery pools have always been a success. The most tickets ever in a pool was 155 in v.4! So far i ran 4 of these with great success.
version 1.0 (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=360380) dead (won total $10)
version 2.0 (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=366257) dead (won total $30)
version 3.0 (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=370889) re-pooled once (won total $43)
version 4.0 (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=371968) re-pooled once (won total $50)
Version 5.0 (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4301437#post4301437)

The Rules.
-No minimum or maximum this time. Contribute as many or as little tickets you want.
-No custom numbers. Quick pick only.
-Deadline to send payments is thursday Dec 14th, 2006 @ 9pm (eastern Toronto Time) Any payments recieved after this deadline will be refunded and not included in the pool.
-You must be 18 or over to play. If you are under 18 your payment will be refunded, and winnings forfieted.
-I reserve the right to refund incorrect payments to players that do not follow instructions.
-$3.00 for each ticket you want to contribute to the pool
-if you contribute more then 3 tickets, each subsequent ticket you want to contribute is $2.25
Example.
The first 3 equals $9. each ticket after is $2.25.
-Now accepting EMT payments (with conditions, please PM for details)

PayPal Payment Instructions
Please follow all instructions or risk ruining the pool for everyone else.

1. Calculate the dollar amount according to the instructions above.
2. Send Paypal to t9tran@ryerson.ca
3. Do not mention lottery anywhere in the Note. Anyone mentioning lottery in their paypal note will have their payment immediately refunded.
instead... Mention something random in the subject heading like "Thanks for helping me fix my roof". Another popular one is "Thanks for the _____" Then you insert any Noun into the blank _____. So far... ive gotten things like "banana" and "cats". I find them interesting to read... lol.
but dont put anything stupid in the blank like Guns or Drugs. That will have my account frozen and i will post your name on RFD for everyone to yell @ you...
4. please include your RFD name in the Note.

Tips and bonuses would be appreciated but are optional.:D It does take me quite some time to organize this and i make it a point to update the Names list a minimum of once a day.

List of Players
(if you dont put your RFD name in the payment note ill just post your Email w/parts of it **** out for spam avoidance purposes.)

1. UrbanPoet 2
2. Captin Howdy 4
3. micronta 1
4. B40 2
5. icq@****.ca 2
6. constant_change 9
7. Majesus 5
8. Clvn 7
9. Shen 7
10. M.D. 2
11. Cyber6 3
12. kit0828 4
13. Bunkhouse 10
14. go_habs 3
15. joey3k 3
16. spaceTraveler 4
17. VladK 10
18. gregv 4
19. Osaka 5

TOTAL: 87 tickets.

Common guys! we had an amazing 155 tickets last time. Lets see if we can match it. YOu never know. We might get lucky for the holiday season ;)
Remember if we win... we're showing up to accept the prize in RED tshirts :D

I edited the above post (I took out some spaces and a double post in their to make it look more organzied)

[MrDisco]

87...not bad. lets aim for 200 tickets this time :)

[Ben Doone]

$$ sent.

[UrbanPoet]

I edited the above post (I took out some spaces and a double post in their to make it look more organzied)

thanks... im keeping the spaces tho. I want some seperation of the information so it doesnt looktoo cluttered.
but wow. i think i got another few tickets

[majesus]

87...not bad. lets aim for 200 tickets this time :)

200 tickets would be awesome! I think we can do it...

With the Jackpot, that would still be $135k per ticket.

Even if we did win and I quitted my job, I'd still be here looking for Red flag deals. :cheesygri

[B40]

Where are those guys that bought 15-20 tickets last draw? :confused:

[j3fan]

200 tickets would be awesome! I think we can do it...

With the Jackpot, that would still be $135k per ticket.

Even if we did win and I quitted my job, I'd still be here looking for Red flag deals. :cheesygri

135k per ticket is not a lot....just as a curiosity, is there tax on lottery winnings?

[sw1ft]

$9 sent

[sw1ft]

just as a curiosity, is there tax on lottery winnings?Nope.

[UrbanPoet]

135k per ticket is not a lot....just as a curiosity, is there tax on lottery winnings?

Dude.. $135k is a HUGE boost in life thatll probably make sure you live a very comfortable life as long as you have a descent job.
135 is 40% of a pretty nice house...

[B40]

135k per ticket is not a lot....just as a curiosity, is there tax on lottery winnings?

In Canada no... it falls under a "windfall"

In the US, I believe so..

Windfalls

3. Subject to the comments in the current version of IT-213, Prizes From Lottery Schemes, Pool System Betting and Giveaway Contests, and those in 4 and 10 below concerning Voluntary Payments and Gambling Profits, a taxpayer in receipt of an amount which can be described as a "windfall" is not subject to tax on the amount. Factors indicating that a particular receipt is a windfall include the following:
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pub/tp/it334r2/it334r2-e.html

Even more incentive to join ;)

[cube11]

$9.00 sent :cheesygri

[Bunkhouse]

$135k can take a big chunk out of your mortgage, or be a nice downpayment on a new house. If you don't think it's that much, you can always buy more tickets :cheesygri

[MrDisco]

135k per ticket is not a lot....just as a curiosity, is there tax on lottery winnings?

do you know how crazy i'ld be if i won on just one ticket in this pool? 135k takes a lot of pressure in the immediate future thats for sure.

[MrDisco]

Where are those guys that bought 15-20 tickets last draw? :confused:

all waiting till the last momment so they're not 'outbid' on having the most tickets :cheesygri

[Kamloops]

I am in for 9.00

Thanks

[UrbanPoet]

do you know how crazy i'ld be if i won on just one ticket in this pool? 135k takes a lot of pressure in the immediate future thats for sure.

yeah... Thats why to me $135k i would be Set for life...
tuition debt, a down payment, and a Subura wagon and ill be happy...

Hey are you adding to the pool this week or are you riding on the free tickets carried on from last weeks pool? I remember u were a hard core player :D
ill run my last update @ midnight.

[DJXP]

im in just paypal'd $6 :D :cheesygri :D

hope we win, got my red tshirt ready :)

[UrbanPoet]

ok guys... in 8 minutes im gonna do the last update for wednesday.

[MrDisco]

Hey are you adding to the pool this week or are you riding on the free tickets carried on from last weeks pool? I remember u were a hard core player :D
ill run my last update @ midnight.

yeah i'm in. i'll send payment as we discussed tommorow.

[UrbanPoet]

*yawn* last update for the night. 102 tickets... we broke the 100 mark. Dead line is Thursday Dec 14th, 2006 @ 9:00PM
g'nite!

[nx2k]

who do i pay to get in on this?
i don't want to read the whole thread

[UrbanPoet]

who do i pay to get in on this?
i don't want to read the whole thread

just gotta look on the first post my brother.

[j3fan]

who do i pay to get in on this?
i don't want to read the whole thread

you pay me...

[majesus]

135k per ticket is not a lot
WTF is wrong with you????




you pay me...
Go away.

[aw3s0me]

sent for 3

[tkyoshi]

Count me in for 2 :)!

[adamtheman]

Meh I'm in for 6 tickets. Sent cash $

[MonkeyRPN]

Have just chipped in my 3 tix~ :razz:

[adamtheman]

Have just chipped in my 3 tix~ :razz:

Oh cmon it's only $2.25 per ticket after that! Go for 6!... or 9.

What we need is some hotshot to come in here and buy 1 million tickets. I'd love to see the OP go in to 7-eleven and ask for that order. Then we'd all win like $10.

[adamtheman]

Btw good on you urbanpoet this is cool. Keep it up! I think you need to have more faith though and put more than 2 tickets in yourself :D

[that_staples_guy]

PayPal sent! Thank you.

[guigz]

Come on baby, papa needs a brand new compouter!!!!
3 tickets please!
Boyah!

[kenj]

Don't you guys know that gambling is addicting? You should not be feeding your online gambling addictions through means like this... You guys really need counselling... BTW - in for 3

[pswart]

Paypal is down for me... :(

I guess no lottery for me.

[UrbanPoet]

Paypal is down for me... :(

I guess no lottery for me.

PM me.. i accept EMT too.

[legendofxix]

I want to get in on the pool but I don't understand something.
You say each ticket is $3 to be apart of the pool and anything after 3 tickets is $2.25.
Last time I checked the tickets were only $2.
So where is the extra 1$ and $0.25 going to? More tickets? Service Fee?
You should really point that out clearly in the first post.
It kinda looks like your making a profit from this.

Yea, you could say that the organizing and stuff is stressful and takes a lot of time but that should be part of the fun of playing in a pool/organizing one. You shouldn't treat it like a business where you charge them to be apart of it. I mean they are already contributing tickets, tickets that could win!

Lets say you are using the extra $$$ to get more tickets. Wouldn't that split the jackpot more? I mean, lets say you got 50$ extra, thats 25 more tickets into the pool. If you win, who gets the extra 25/X amount of the jackpot winnings?

[poppa]

I want to get in on the pool but I don't understand something.
You say each ticket is $3 to be apart of the pool and anything after 3 tickets is $2.25.
Last time I checked the tickets were only $2.
So where is the extra 1$ and $0.25 going to? More tickets? Service Fee?
You should really point that out clearly in the first post.
It kinda looks like your making a profit from this.

Yea, you could say that the organizing and stuff is stressful and takes a lot of time but that should be part of the fun of playing in a pool/organizing one. You shouldn't treat it like a business where you charge them to be apart of it. I mean they are already contributing tickets, tickets that could win!

Lets say you are using the extra $$$ to get more tickets. Wouldn't that split the jackpot more? I mean, lets say you got 50$ extra, thats 25 more tickets into the pool. If you win, who gets the extra 25/X amount of the jackpot winnings?

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_display-fees-outside&countries=CA

[legendofxix]

That still doesn't equal 1 dollar extra for each 2 dollar sent on paypal.

Send Money
Free
Receive payments funded by Credit Card, Debit Card or Buyer Credit
4.9% + $0.55 CAD (limit of 5 transactions per 12 month period)**

The only one that I can even see it going close to that is the recieving money by credit card. But then of course, people would just open a paypal account.

Multiple Currency Transactions
Exchange rate includes a 2.5% fee*
If your talking about that, I know for a fact that to exchange from USD to CDN, its not 1 dollar extra for a 2 dollar transfer/payment.
The paypal exchange rate is approximately 1.15:1 CDN:US.

[poppa]

That still doesn't equal 1 dollar extra for each 2 dollar sent on paypal.

Send Money Free
Receive payments funded by Credit Card, Debit Card or Buyer Credit 4.9% + $0.55 CAD (limit of 5 transactions per 12 month period)**

The only one that I can even see it going close to that is the recieving money by credit card. But then of course, people would just open a paypal account.

Multiple Currency Transactions Exchange rate includes a 2.5% fee*
If your talking about that, I know for a fact that to exchange from USD to CDN, its not 1 dollar extra for a 2 dollar transfer/payment.
The paypal exchange rate is approximately 1.15:1 CDN:US.

UrbanPoet has admitted to making a profit off this pool in previous posts. It just seems that not that many people care enough to say anything about it. He claims to have made $30 off the previous pool.

Personally, I would have liked to see that used towards more tickets because it increases our chances of winning.

Keep in mind, UrbanPoet is a Premier/Business member of Paypal.

But it's the sacrifice we all have to take if we want to win.

[legendofxix]

So hes making money off this.
Wow, something this easy and he still needs to be paid for it?
I mean once you set up the spreadsheet its pretty much all done.
Verifying the Paypal payments/cash is easy (or just use paypal, I'm sure everyone here has an account).
As for his complaining about printing up the tickets, he goes to Ryerson, based off his email, theres like 10 retailers nearby. His excuse is to see the hot Korean daughter. Doesn't sound like hes suffering too bad to me.

Well, this was a good idea but I can't participate. Just the fact that you make 1$ off each ticket really irks me.
Lets assume that the average person buys a minimum of two tickets. This makes 2$ per person.

Now you have at 30ish people buying so far. Thats 2 * 30 = 60$ <--- Thats only factoring a MINIMUM of 2 tickets per person.
I see some people buy 3 or 4 tickets.
If 40% bought a third ticket, that would be 40% * 30 * 1 = 12$.
Already the sum is 72$.

Now thats hardly the 30ish dollars he claims he has made in the past.

As for the paypal fees thing. According to the link you provided, money transfers are still free even though hes Premier/Business.

Also, I'd like to add that he didn't even take the time to make the Spreadsheet or the formula to calculate winnings. All he did was get the tickets printed/be the bank.
He better split some of that profit with B40 heh.

Note: I'm using convservative estimate for the percentage of people who bought a 3rd ticket. If you look at the list, a lot of people have bought more than 2. More than 50% of them did.

[UrbanPoet]

paypal takes off $0.55 off EVERY transaction.
they also take a % cutt off every transaction after they take off that $0.55

[that_staples_guy]

I understand that UP is making some money off of it, but I look at it as a service fee. I'm busy with work and school so I can't go to Loblaws to get my ticket. Plus it takes work to do this *****, so I'm more than happy to pay a premium for these tickets.

[B40]

He better split some of that profit with B40 heh.


Oh I get something better than a share of the profits... UrbanPoet gives me some special service ;)

Seriously... that spreadsheet took me about 5 minutes to make. Most of the work is the administrative duties of keeping track of payments and who's in for how much and then of course buying and posting the tickets.

I'm not sure how much UrbanPoet is making in profits per hour, but it does take a bit of time to organize all of this... and I certainly (and I'm sure all of you) wouldn't do it for free.. so why do you expect UrbanPoet to?

[B40]

all waiting till the last momment so they're not 'outbid' on having the most tickets :cheesygri

Webslinger has 25 tickets, does this mean you're buying 26? ;)

[legendofxix]

Oh I get something better than a share of the profits... UrbanPoet gives me some special service ;)

Seriously... that spreadsheet took me about 5 minutes to make. Most of the work is the administrative duties of keeping track of payments and who's in for how much and then of course buying and posting the tickets.

I'm not sure how much UrbanPoet is making in profits per hour, but it does take a bit of time to organize all of this... and I certainly (and I'm sure all of you) wouldn't do it for free.. so why do you expect UrbanPoet to?

If I was as veteran as you on RFD, I'd do it for free.
The thing is you wouldn't be pooling for profit, you'd be pooling to win the jackpot. That far outweighs whatever you COULD make even if you were to do this every week on every draw (64/9 included).

But I got my question answered. As I said to UP in a PM, I just wanted to knoy why I was paying more since it wasn't originally stated on the original post.

[UrbanPoet]

:arrowu:

its easy to say "yeh ill do this for free blah blah" when your not ever gonna do it. Out of the whole 6 year history.. i was the only one to do it for free in version 1.
I do accept exact Cash payments $2 per ticket @ RFD meets and in person (when i was in school & not in exam time).

[legendofxix]

Yes, I would
(EDITED PORTION: As I said to you in the PM system, I already do it for a local community, for free)
Its intrisically pleasing to bring together a huge group of people.
You seem to think that the accounting/management is difficult. It is if your not experienced in it.
This is kind of sidetracking on your original topic so I'll leave it at this.

[MrDisco]

well i was the one who got the ball rolling and was looking for ways to get this started before UP took over. i have no problems doing it for free as i really dont see it as being that difficult to run (nor overly time consuming). i see it as no different then running an office pool - i dont think people charge to run those.

the *only* sticking point is how to receive payments. paypal is something i would want to avoid at all costs so that only leaves EMT and direct deposit. EMT is terrifc, however there is charge for most people to use it. perhaps people would be more comfortable with EMT and their fees if they knew that the person running the pool is only receiving the face value amount of the tickets (vs paying the organizer a fee to process paypal payments).
direct deposit is sort of neat, but there is no accountability as to who paid what (though I really did like the 1,2,3 penny idea...we should have stuck with that).

[MrDisco]

Webslinger has 25 tickets, does this mean you're buying 26? ;)

lol i dont think so. gotta remember its only a game and not to get too caught up in the frenzy.

[majesus]

I understand that UP is making some money off of it, but I look at it as a service fee. I'm busy with work and school so I can't go to Loblaws to get my ticket. Plus it takes work to do this *****, so I'm more than happy to pay a premium for these tickets.

Ditto.
I was thinking the exact something... I was wondering why the fee is an extra dollar?... But there is a considerable amount of work to be done. It is a lot of PR and organization work.

We are at 152 tickets so far... how big is the average office pool? Plus not to mention, in an office you have the convenience of everyone being physically in front of you... More time is involved when I am in Vancouver and UP is in Toronto.

I bought a few tickets because I think this is fun… See what happens with 200 hundreds ticket bought.

However, for future pools, I don’t think I’ll be participating often unless we can do something to cut cost. … I’d definitely volunteer some of my time to help out in organization and running a pool. Maybe it will be easier if we had a few members running/organizing it. I love lottery pools, so I’m up for HELPING.

But for this one, I am with UP and I thank him big time for setting all this up. :)

BTW, the odds of jackpot if we bought 200 tickets goes down from a whopping 1 in 20 million to about 1 in 106,000.

[legendofxix]

Yea, I'd be up for some of that.
Its cause UP has premium account on paypal so all money transfers cost money.
If someome were to do it and had a personal account the fee would be nonexistent.

[MrDisco]

BTW, the odds of jackpot if we bought 200 tickets goes down from a whopping 1 in 20 million to about 1 in 106,000.

holy cow seriously? i was under the assumption that 1 ticket or 200 tickets had a really small impact on your odds. any Actuaries in the house?

C'mon ppl - we're 5.5hrs away from reaching our 200 ticket goal! go go go!

[Dealz-4-U]

Just sent payment by Paypal!

Thanks again to UP :razz:

[chlorine]

add another 10 tickets to the total from me + my friend ttper. thanks UP.

I don't think the extra cost is too unmanageable. if we were to buy 10 tickets at a store, it would cost us $20... instead of the $24.75 we paid...

but for 4.75, there's an extra (at the point of writing) 162 tickets, meaning 486 lines (as opposed to just having 30 lines)... I think it's not bad.

I do agree the direct deposit method is good... the later you're in the game, the more pennies you pay... it's not so bad. better than giving PayPal money.

[adamtheman]

But $24.75 over $20.00 is a lot man. All this pool is doing is:

1. Making the lotto corps richer
2. Making paypal richer
3. Making the OP richer
4. Making all of us poorer

But I am in agreeance, it's a fun thing to do, but the payment form is NOT mathematically correct. Why $3.00 for the first 3? The exact fees of paypal should be figured out and that should be that. If the OP does not want to do it for free then the idea will fail eventually. I know I won't be contributing again unless it changes.

And the whole "he should get paid for his work" thing is sort of a joke guys. He has said he enjoys doing this. Thousands of people run office pools and they go around and collect money from people, and then go buy the tickets, and then photocopy the tickets, and then give the tickets out to everyone. It's a lot of work, but they all do it for free. Can you imagine your co-worker coming to you and being like "yeah it's $20, plus a $4.75 fee for all the work I do".

[poppa]

But $24.75 over $20.00 is a lot man. All this pool is doing is:

1. Making the lotto corps richer
2. Making paypal richer
3. Making the OP richer
4. Making all of us poorer



If we win, we will be laughing about how cheap we were, arguing over fees.

[actuary]

holy cow seriously? i was under the assumption that 1 ticket or 200 tickets had a really small impact on your odds. any Actuaries in the house?

C'mon ppl - we're 5.5hrs away from reaching our 200 ticket goal! go go go!

Did someone say my name?

1 ticket for the Super 7 has a chance of 1 in 20,963,833 of winning the grand prize. So the chances of winning the jackpot with 200 tickets, assuming none of them contain the same numbers, are 200 in 20,963,833 or 1 in 104,819.

However, in the case of this pool, you are getting a lower expected return than if you bought a single ticket on your own. This is because of the extra fees associated with the pool. Mathematically speaking, your best bet is to by a ticket on your own (actually your best bet would be to not by a ticket at all.)

While it is impossible to calculate your exact expected return until after the draw, (it depends on the total number of tickets purchased for the draw,) most Super 7 draws return about 50% of your money. Therefore, this pool would have an expected return of only 2/3 of 50% or 33% ($3 for a ticket instead of $2.)

[chococrazy]

OK I'm not trying to be a **** disturber, honestly, if you wanna fret over it then you shouldn't play.

I calculated how much UP's making, so far he's at $79.51 for this draw. That's calculating each person's amount minus Paypal's $0.55 per transaction charge - 2.9%.

The amount he quoted last time might be right, since he did accept cash transactions from the people who went to the Toronto meet.

Would people be happier if it was say, a set amount per draw that goes to UP, and then the rest gets pooled into more tickets? I think the amounts that UP made up were because at that point, the draw wasn't as popular. Now that it is... (and probably will be if UP is willing to continue with this) the fees are a tad high.

I'd suggest working out another formula for the tickets to account for the pool's popularity, and perhaps 'pay' a set fee to UP for doing this and the balance goes to more tickets.

[Hellfire]

Payment sent for 5 tickets

[JaGWiRE]

Dad just sent payment for 1 ticket ($3.00.) If you need his paypal account pm me. He did not put a RFD account because the ticket is NOT mine.

[MrDisco]

34. webslinger 25!!!!!
TOTAL: 162 tickets.


my brain isn't working too clearly right now... for 25 tickets does that mean he chipped in $58.50?

[adamtheman]

OK I'm not trying to be a **** disturber, honestly, if you wanna fret over it then you shouldn't play.

I calculated how much UP's making, so far he's at $79.51 for this draw. That's calculating each person's amount minus Paypal's $0.55 per transaction charge - 2.9%.

The amount he quoted last time might be right, since he did accept cash transactions from the people who went to the Toronto meet.

Would people be happier if it was say, a set amount per draw that goes to UP, and then the rest gets pooled into more tickets? I think the amounts that UP made up were because at that point, the draw wasn't as popular. Now that it is... (and probably will be if UP is willing to continue with this) the fees are a tad high.

I'd suggest working out another formula for the tickets to account for the pool's popularity, and perhaps 'pay' a set fee to UP for doing this and the balance goes to more tickets.

$79.51 is a lot of money man. That means he will make $100 cash for 200 tickets being sold here. That is another 50 tickets we could all get for the pool. It's not pocket change it's a lot of frickin money. I could have the attitude you have "if you don't like it don't play" but that's what I am afraid of. I'd love to see this pool take off and I'd be willing to contribute $20 a week to it for years to come if it could be even.

I don't see why it can't be like $3.00 for the first ticket, and then $2.10 per ticket after that., instead of $3.00 for the first 3 tickets. There is NO reason to do $3.00 for more than the first ticket other than making money.

[chococrazy]

Yes, $58.50 for 25 is correct. Here are my calculations:

http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/6557/sheetxv8.gif

[B40]

The question you have to ask yourself is are you in this to maximize your chances of winning or to profit off the potential to win?

poppa says it best... now that UrbanPoet has feedback for and against the fees, he can decide to revise them next time or leave them the same.. then we can decide if we want to particpate or not.

Either way, lotteries are meant to be fun, lets not all get our thongs in a knot.

[MrDisco]

Yes, $58.50 for 15 is correct. Here are my calculations:

(though you made a typo .. its 25 not 15)

wow...thats alotta dough! i dont know if i'm that hardcore. even for my own personal plays and office pools i have never put that much into a draw.

[MrDisco]

ok i just called in to my bank and for EMT transfers to another EMT bank (which is pretty much all of them) the cost is $1.50 ($2.50 if you EMT to someone who is not with a participating institution).

$1.50 + face value of tickets is a much better proposition for everyone invovled. It eliminates the evilness of PayPal, its no doubt cheaper for large ticket purchases,and UP can track to see who has paid and who hasn't. I would only question the $1 handling fee that is being tacked on ontop of this.

[chococrazy]

I do think UP should get something out of this.

Another option is to tack on the equivalent of $1.00 for UP for each transaction (except for purchasing 1, 2 or 3 tickets since that might be too much):

Example:

1 ticket $3.00
2 tickets $5.25
3 tickets $7.50
4 tickets $9.84 (works out to 0.84 paypal fee)
5 tickets $11.89 (works out to 0.89 paypal fees)
6 tickets $13.95 (works out to 0.95 Paypal fees)

Etc etc etc. The amounts could be posted in the first post of the thread, people would Paypal that and in the comments they could say 'thanks for the payment of 6 toys for $13.95' just to make it easier for him.

Anyways, as B40 said, it's really up to UP. I just thought I'd brainstorm some ideas :) I'm willing to help him come up with some numbers that will work out for everyone involved. (plus I'm procrastinating from doing work)

[importpsycho]

this is getting out of hand...
anyway in for 23 tickets:cheesygri

[MrDisco]

I do think UP should get something out of this.


I think if we were to go with EMT the need for UP to collect fees would be eliminated thus making it easier for him to collect the money (and there wouldn't be any issue of what to do with the excess or charges of profiting off of this venture). with that out of the way it becomes the same as any office pool so would there really be a need to add an additional handling fee to this?

anyway just ideas i'm tossing out.

[MrDisco]

this is getting out of hand...
anyway in for 23 tickets:cheesygri

man thats hardcore.

only 15 away from 200! holy @#$@#$

[JaGWiRE]

man thats hardcore.

only 15 away from 200! holy @#$@#$


My dad bought one, so 14.

[chococrazy]

I think if we were to go with EMT the need for UP to collect fees would be eliminated thus making it easier for him to collect the money (and there wouldn't be any issue of what to do with the excess or charges of profiting off of this venture). with that out of the way it becomes the same as any office pool so would there really be a need to add an additional handling fee to this?

anyway just ideas i'm tossing out.

He still needs to figure out who sent him what, how much, compile the list, update the site, get the tickets. An office pool is easier, people drop by with their money and you just create the list as you go along. You go down on company time to buy the tickets, you use the company photocopier (again on company time) to make a few copies for everyone's reference.

I would rather see him get paid to do this for us, and do it right, than to have someone do it for free and may not be as responsible. Besides, he's a good guy. :cheesygri He's done a great job so far, it's just that with the numbers now the 'fees' are a little too much.

Oh yeah, I'm in for 1 too. UP hasn't updated the list yet tonight. Give him time :)

[MrDisco]

He still needs to figure out who sent him what, how much, compile the list, update the site, get the tickets. An office pool is easier, people drop by with their money and you just create the list as you go along. You go down on company time to buy the tickets, you use the company photocopier (again on company time) to make a few copies for everyone's reference.

well with EMT it has the person's email address. the rest really isn't any different - someone pays, you update your spreadsheet and update the first post.
i think a mistake was letting people buy however many tickets they want. if this was truly about the amount of time this is eating up that has got to be the biggest contributors right there. if you set a fixed amount for everyone then it makes the organization and purchasing of tickets much simpler.
as for photocopies it isn't needed here since UP is taking digital pictures. i will give you the bit about using company time to buy the tickets, but really how is that any different from buying tickets after school (or whatever)?


I would rather see him get paid to do this for us, and do it right, than to have someone do it for free and may not be as responsible. Besides, he's a good guy. :cheesygri He's done a great job so far, it's just that with the numbers now the 'fees' are a little too much.


don't get me wrong. i'm absoltely not saying he's doing a bad job. i'm just saying the fee schedule should be revised if it continues to attract more players (particularly with the large jackpots) since the amount being pocketed isn't trivial.

[that_staples_guy]

I would rather see him get paid to do this for us, and do it right, than to have someone do it for free and may not be as responsible. Besides, he's a good guy. :cheesygri He's done a great job so far...

:arrowu:

[B40]

Another option I proposed to UP earlier today is to take the total fees and calculate how much time he spends total.. then take out a fair $/hour.

So for example, he collects $50 in fees on top of paypal fees and spends 4 hours. He thinks $12/hour is far so takes $48 and puts the extra $2 back into the pool for 1 extra ticket..

Just another option...

[DJXP]

paypal>emt for me, i have no $ in my bank, but have a fair bit in paypal :) , plus id rather pay $1-2 via pp vs $1.50 emt. I guess for tix >3 it makes sense for emt....

[MrDisco]

Another option I proposed to UP earlier today is to take the total fees and calculate how much time he spends total.. then take out a fair $/hour.

So for example, he collects $50 in fees on top of paypal fees and spends 4 hours. He thinks $12/hour is far so takes $48 and puts the extra $2 back into the pool for 1 extra ticket..

Just another option...

no way thats too arbritrary. it should be a simple set fee schedule. we all know how much paypal charges so really the question comes down to is are we doing this for fun and on a volunteer basis, or are we paying UP to do a part-time a job for us?

[MrDisco]

paypal>emt for me, i have no $ in my bank, but have a fair bit in paypal :)

that is truly scary.

[MtX]

edit_ nm

[DJXP]

that is truly scary.

I meant no extra $ as in to spend on stuff. I like to keep my banking as simple as possible, without little transactions going through it etc.

[majesus]

if you set a fixed amount for everyone then it makes the organization and purchasing of tickets much simpler.

as for photocopies it isn't needed here since UP is taking digital pictures. i will give you the bit about using company time to buy the tickets, but really how is that any different from buying tickets after school (or whatever)?


You can't do that... this is a lottery pool. Buyers have the right to choice how many tickets they want to buy. You can't fix it... this is gambling.

Plus, you are making it sound like this is taking no time at all... The tasks to organize/manage this lottery group are SIGNIFICANT... WAY MORE then facilitating the same program in an office pool.

There are a lot of users interested in this program and a lot of them have different factors for convenience when it comes to money transfers. Thus, for this lottery group to work with the best results:

The methods for money transaction should be widely available and
and a fee schedule in accordance with the methods used should be set into place.

As well, a percentage of the total tickets bought should be awarded to the organizer for their time and management...

It shouldn't be that much, something reasonable to keep things organized. If possible more the one person can do this together, to make things easier.

I would really like to help set up something permanent so that we can have a weekly pool with a lot of members participating. Something well organized, resonable, easy for members to participate, and a lot of fun. :)

[MrDisco]

You can't do that... this is a lottery pool. Buyers have the right to choice how many tickets they want to buy. You can't fix it... this is gambling.


of course you can limit the number of tickets purchased. the extreme example would be stores which limit the amount of items a customer can purchase.


Plus, you are making it sound like this is taking no time at all... The tasks to organize/manage this lottery group are SIGNIFICANT... WAY MORE then facilitating the same program in an office pool.


we'll agree to disagree here.


I would really like to help set up something permanent so that we can have a weekly pool with a lot of members participating. Something well organized, resonable, easy for members to participate, and a lot of fun. :)

if its a weekly thing then there's already a program in place - the lotto subscription. just get a whole a bunch of interested RFD members to chip for say a once a weekly draw for say 13 weeks.

[purple_rabbit]

Signed up for 2 tickets :D

Payment sent as "bedsheet disinfection services" :lol:

[clkio]

Payment sent as thanks for the rabbit LOL

[chococrazy]

I would really like to help set up something permanent so that we can have a weekly pool with a lot of members participating. Something well organized, resonable, easy for members to participate, and a lot of fun. :)

If we're going to do this pool every week, the best thing to do would be to play 6/49 and get a subscription (using the code from the Hot Deals forum, of course :)) I wouldn't mind being a part of this actually, that way there would be VERY little fees and one list for the entire year. We could even do just 6 months as a trial, everyone pitch in $94. (https://olg.ca/lotteries/lottoadvance.jsp) Or three months for $47 each.

The same numbers play, so the organizer wouldn't have to keep sending out copies of the tickets.

I think putting together this type of pool (what UP is doing) should be for bigger jackpots, and not on a weekly basis.

[MrDisco]

If we're going to do this pool every week, the best thing to do would be to play 6/49 and get a subscription (using the code from the Hot Deals forum, of course :))


yep thats what i suggested. just have to ensure that who ever is the group leader is trustworthy enough to take the small winnings to buy more tickets.

so anyway i predict we'll have 220 tickets in this draw. any other guesses?

[JaGWiRE]

yep thats what i suggested. just have to ensure that who ever is the group leader is trustworthy enough to take the small winnings to buy more tickets.

so anyway i predict we'll have 220 tickets in this draw. any other guesses?


Didn't payment just end 3 mins ago? Maybe 200 tickets.

[ids748]

i applied/payed too before your 9pm deadline!

[UrbanPoet]

okay guys. im gonna lower the fees for the NExt pool as much as i can that will be fair for both me and all others.
and im extending the deadline till 10:30pm!
I thought i was gonna sleep early b/c of my 7am shift tmrw.. but im staying up a bit. so theres extra time for anyone else.

[Hellfire]

This is fun, just think guys, if we hit the jackpot and we end up with 250 tickets purchased each ticket wins:

$108,000 :razz:

[MrDisco]

This is fun, just think guys, if we hit the jackpot and we end up with 250 tickets purchased each ticket wins:

$108,000 :razz:

yup its fun to dream. $108k would be a nice downpayment on a home and a decent car.

[UrbanPoet]

254 total... im updating the list right now...
I t took me almost 30 minutes to do this update.

[that_staples_guy]

two fity fow? wowzers

[Hellfire]

254 total... im updating the list right now...
I t took me almost 30 minutes to do this update.

Ok then, and there is still an hour to go. Lets say 300 tickets then, each ticket wins: $90,000... so if you wanna win over a million dollars make sure you buy 12 tickets hehe

[B40]

I need more tickets... $108k is not enough :|

[JaGWiRE]

You guys wouldn't be happy winning like $500-1000?

[MrDisco]

You guys wouldn't be happy winning like $500-1000?

we're nowhere near close to reduce the winnings down to $500/ticket. But yeah I still would be happy winning $500.

[JaGWiRE]

we're nowhere near close to reduce the winnings down to $500/ticket. But yeah I still would be happy winning $500.


Isn't it possible to win, just not the jackpot? I don't know, I don't play the lottery, I should probably ask my dad, but he went to bed already.

[UrbanPoet]

we're nowhere near close to reduce the winnings down to $500/ticket. But yeah I still would be happy winning $500.

i think if u get 2nd place... u win a pretty good amount...

[B40]

Isn't it possible to win, just not the jackpot? I don't know, I don't play the lottery, I should probably ask my dad, but he went to bed already.

Yes.. if you go to www.olg.ca it will break down what each prize is for previous draws.

[UrbanPoet]

well.. if we get 2nd place... i think its 5% of the prize fund..
thats still $5k per ticket

[MrDisco]

Isn't it possible to win, just not the jackpot? I don't know, I don't play the lottery, I should probably ask my dad, but he went to bed already.

"45% of LOTTO SUPER 7 draw sales are dedicated to the Prize Fund. The total amount of $10 and Free Play prizes are paid from the Prize Fund and the balance of the fund (The Pools Fund) is then allocated between the 5/7, 6/7, 6/7 + Bonus and 7/7 prize categories as indicated in the table below.

7/7 numbers - Win 73% of the Pools Fund - Odds 1 in 20,963,833
6/7 + Bonus - Win 5% of the Pools Fund - Odds 1 in 2,994,833.29
6/7* - Win 5% of the Pools Fund - Odds 1 in 76,790.60
5/7* - Win 17% of the Pools Fund - Odds 1 in 1,279.84
4/7 - Win $10 - 1 in 60.62
3/7 + Bonus - Win $10 - 1 in 65.54
3/7 - Win Free Play - 1 in 7.282"

[JaGWiRE]

well.. if we get 2nd place... i think its 5% of the prize fund..
thats still $5k per ticket


As nuts as this sounds, I think that would be a pretty good amount to win. Not enough to make your lifestyle go flop like winning $27 mill (although after divided up it would be a decent amount still), but a good enough amount to help you pay some stuff off or go on a vacation or buy something you've been wanting.

[UrbanPoet]

As nuts as this sounds, I think that would be a pretty good amount to win. Not enough to make your lifestyle go flop like winning $27 mill (although after divided up it would be a decent amount still), but a good enough amount to help you pay some stuff off or go on a vacation or buy something you've been wanting.

i think even $15k will dramatically change my life...
aka NO tuition debt... Then i can just get into my career without the 3-5 yr burden most ppl have doing osap payments...

[Hellfire]

"45% of LOTTO SUPER 7 draw sales are dedicated to the Prize Fund. The total amount of $10 and Free Play prizes are paid from the Prize Fund and the balance of the fund (The Pools Fund) is then allocated between the 5/7, 6/7, 6/7 + Bonus and 7/7 prize categories as indicated in the table below.

7/7 numbers - Win 73% of the Pools Fund - Odds 1 in 20,963,833
6/7 + Bonus - Win 5% of the Pools Fund - Odds 1 in 2,994,833.29
6/7* - Win 5% of the Pools Fund - Odds 1 in 76,790.60
5/7* - Win 17% of the Pools Fund - Odds 1 in 1,279.84
4/7 - Win $10 - 1 in 60.62
3/7 + Bonus - Win $10 - 1 in 65.54
3/7 - Win Free Play - 1 in 7.282"

How does that work? Does it mean its better to be the only or 1 our of 3, 5/7 winner rather than 6/7 or 6/7 + Bonus?

[UrbanPoet]

webslinger for 41 tickets!!!

[poppa]

webslinger for 41 tickets!!!
:eek:

[UrbanPoet]

:eek:

:eek: :eek: :eek:
are you sure your not addicted to gambling? 41 tickets.... is alot...

[Webslinger]

:eek: :eek: :eek:
are you sure your not addicted to gambling? 41 tickets.... is alot...


No worries . . .

By the way, no one should gamble what he or she cannot afford to lose.

[MrDisco]

How does that work? Does it mean its better to be the only or 1 our of 3, 5/7 winner rather than 6/7 or 6/7 + Bonus?

yeah i noticed that too...*shrug* dont ask me i just copied it from the olgc website. obviously it must be a typo.

[MrDisco]

:eek: :eek: :eek:
are you sure your not addicted to gambling? 41 tickets.... is alot...

*woah*

[UrbanPoet]

No worries . . .

By the way, no one should gamble what he or she cannot afford to lose.

aiight man. just looking out for a brotha.

[Webslinger]

aiight man. just looking out for a brotha.

:)

[DaVibe]

Wait, people are adding in different amounts?
So someone would potentially GET MORE if there was an actual high return on these tickets?

Wow ... that's all I've got say.
I guess you can look at it at the 'More chances to win' category, or you can look at it like the 'I won but not really, since I didn't pay as much as ___".
Weird.

[MrDisco]

Wait, people are adding in different amounts?
So someone would potentially GET MORE if there was an actual high return on these tickets?


yes. its in the faq.

[that_staples_guy]

Wait, people are adding in different amounts?
So someone would potentially GET MORE if there was an actual high return on these tickets?

Wow ... that's all I've got say.
I guess you can look at it at the 'More chances to win' category, or you can look at it like the 'I won but not really, since I didn't pay as much as ___".
Weird.

Man if I got 90K while some other member got 3 mil i'd still be happy as hell...

[chococrazy]

I'm fine with people putting in more than one ticket. It greatly improves our chances of winning. Instead of 40 chances, we have 270 :)

[DaVibe]

I guess it's a nice little way to "Try and beat the odds" since the odds for the average person are non-win-able :razz:

Schmeh, have fun. I might join again another time but for now I'm out.

[UrbanPoet]

okie.. final update and we're up to 280 tickets.

[B40]

4. B40 2


Why's my name in purple? :mad:

[UrbanPoet]

Why's my name in purple? :mad:

b/c they didnt have pink .:confused:

[Bunkhouse]

So looks like we'll be needing 54 red T-shirts :cheesygri

[that_staples_guy]

So looks like we'll be needing 54 red T-shirts :cheesygri

don't worry folks i knocked on wood.

[Alvito]

when are you gonna stop playing this group lottery?

[that_staples_guy]

when are you gonna stop playing this group lottery?

once we win somfin guuuud

[ji2o0k]

shiet, I was supposed to send the paypal today but then things got busy at work and I had to work out at night........

well good luck, I joined all the previous ones and didn't win the big one, watch my luck and you guys win........

[that_staples_guy]

shiet, I was supposed to send the paypal today but then things got busy at work and I had to work out at night........

well good luck, I joined all the previous ones and didn't win the big one, watch my luck and you guys win........

don't worry bud, if we win, i'll get you a G, plus all the craziest pm's you can do in an hour :D

[majesus]

MrDisco and Chococrazy I agree a subscription would be a good idea for a long term plan. :)

We'll talk about it after this draw... in the mean time...

THIS is awesome 281 tickets so far... WOOHOO.

I am just happy to win anything, whatever the amount, I don't care, something is better than nothing.


Webslinger, When I signed on this group, we didn't even have 40 tickets yet. Good job bringing up our chances... You ROCK :)

[MrDisco]

when are you gonna stop playing this group lottery?

why do we have to stop?

and holy cow..281?! man too bad we can't squeeze 19 more in for an even 300.

edit: how fun would it be to plunk down 6 x $100 bills and say 'quick pick please, no encore' and see the ticket agent's eyes pop out :D

[lummer]

yeah i noticed that too...*shrug* dont ask me i just copied it from the olgc website. obviously it must be a typo.

Using those odds and assuming (to make it easy) that 21 million tickets are sold:

top prize (73% of total): $27 million
total prize money: $37 million

7/7 -> 1 winner = $27 million each
6/7+B -> 7 winners = $264,286 each
6/7 -> 273 winners = $6,777 each
5/7 -> 16,408 winners = $383 each

So it's probably not a typo on the olgc website. It's because of the large number of people that win with 5/7 that they need to allocate a larger percentage of the pot than the 6/7 or 6/7+B.

[adamtheman]

Good luck guys...

7/7 - We have a 1 in 74604 chance of winning (Approx $95000 a ticket)
6/7+B - We have a 1 in 10657 chance of winning (Approx $1000 a ticket)
6/7 - We have a 1 in 273 chance of winning (Approx $25 a ticket)
5/7 - We have a 1 in 4 chance of winning (Approx $2 per ticket)

Just rough estimates. The jackpot assumes only one winner.

So needless to say, anyone with hopes of actually winning... well, 1 in 74604 is better than 1 in 21 million, it's still not very likely. Even the 1 in 10657 isn't very likely (would sure be nice though!)

[micronta]

MrDisco and Chococrazy I agree a subscription would be a good idea for a long term plan. :)

We'll talk about it after this draw... in the mean time...

THIS is awesome 281 tickets so far... WOOHOO.

I am just happy to win anything, whatever the amount, I don't care, something is better than nothing.


Webslinger, When I signed on this group, we didn't even have 40 tickets yet. Good job bringing up our chances... You ROCK :)


I can't wait to hear about the subscription plan or some other plan that you guys come up with. It would be so awesome to have a plan in which numerous RFD members can participate in with no fees or very minimal fees in true RFD spirit. I mean look at the past Lotto versions, which won some dollars (thanks to UrbanPoet for organizing). Even with 200+ tickets we're going against all odds, but it's pretty tough to find an office lotto pool this big and it looks like it's getting bigger every week. I usually don't win anything when I buy tickets myself, so our chances are slightly better I feel. Well, I am glad that at the end of the day, I can say that I tried and so can all of us.:)

[HeatSeeker]

This is the second time I ask you. Would you please replace my email with my forum name. You have my entire email showing on the lotto list. Please replace icq@****.ca with my forum name HeatSeeker. I sent you a PM on this.

[majesus]

This is the second time I ask you. Would you please replace my email with my forum name. You have my entire email showing on the lotto list. Please replace icq@****.ca with my forum name HeatSeeker. I sent you a PM on this.

I know mine is shown in full too. I PM UP on this too. Poor guy, I read somewhere he's gone to work, + Lottery pool and probably Christmas shopping to do too. As well change our emails to our forum name.

[majesus]

I can't wait to hear about the subscription plan or some other plan that you guys come up with. It would be so awesome to have a plan in which numerous RFD members can participate in with no fees or very minimal fees in true RFD spirit. I mean look at the past Lotto versions, which won some dollars (thanks to UrbanPoet for organizing). Even with 200+ tickets we're going against all odds, but it's pretty tough to find an office lotto pool this big and it looks like it's getting bigger every week. I usually don't win anything when I buy tickets myself, so our chances are slightly better I feel. Well, I am glad that at the end of the day, I can say that I tried and so can all of us.:)

Yeah I was thinking about it last night. I wanted to make it easy to get as many people interested in joining.

First the first RFD subscription pool. This is the rules that I came up with.

6 month subscription (for a trial, we can go longer the next time.)

Once you are in, you can't back out.

You can purchase 1 ticket, 2 tickets, 3 tickets... Which will be called “shares.”
So if we win, we divide the total amount of tickets (total shares in the pool) by the prize to determine the base amount, then your payout value is the base amount times your share.

All members of the pool and their shares are shown in the First post of the pool thread.

In the beginning you have the option to choose your own numbers for each ticket you buy or you can select instant pick. Once the numbers are chosen, they are fixed for the remainder of the subscription.

From the outcome of a draw, if any of the pool's tickets match 4 wining numbers or less, the money is reinvested into the pool as free ticket(s) for the next draw.

You can join anytime you want. But you must join and pay for the next draw up to the end of the subscription. IF there are any free tickets in the pool, you must pay the following:
Total amount of free tickets divide by the total amount of shares in the pool round up to the next dollar.
(The reason for this, new joiners must be on equal terms with the value of the total tickets owned by the pool.)

Payment option: We will setup an EMT for some of the common banks.
(Hopefully people who have experience with a particular bank can give input.)
You can pay through paypal, but you will have to pay for the service fee.

Additional service fee:
A percentage that we shall discuss and agree on (hopefully), shall go to the organizer(s) for setting all this up, managing and running the program.

One final thing, we also need to agree on the following: Shall the ticket numbers be shown in the first post or shall we keep in private and distribute them via email only to the participating members? The reason: we don’t want anyone copying our ticket numbers and then buying their own tickets. If they win on the same numbers, then we lose half the prize. We can't completely avoid this from happening, but we can minimize the chance by keeping our numbers private within the pool.

Lastly, if we win the jackpot, all members must go to Mexico to celebrate. If you decide not to come, you forfeit your share of the prize and it goes to the other members for even a bigger party.

I think that covers it, but please give suggestions and comments for improvement.

[CSR]

Hey UB, why don't you set up a personal PP account?

[MrDisco]

You can join anytime you want. But you must join and pay for the next draw up to the end of the subscription. IF there are any free tickets in the pool, you must pay the following:
Total amount of free tickets divide by the total amount of shares in the pool round up to the next dollar.
(The reason for this, new joiners must be on equal terms with the value of the total tickets owned by the pool.)


Disagree with this. We should keep things very simple and set a deadline for joining and then thats it. If people want to join in they can come at the next renewal period.



Additional service fee:
A percentage that we shall discuss and agree on (hopefully), shall go to the organizer(s) for setting all this up, managing and running the program.


Totally disagree. There is very little effort in signing up for a subscription so a 'service fee' is just a means of making money by the organizer. It doesn't take much work to buy lottery tickets for any winnings and keeping people informed.


One final thing, we also need to agree on the following: Shall the ticket numbers be shown in the first post or shall we keep in private and distribute them via email only to the participating members?


should be kept private on a blog accessible only to subscribers. the blog could also maintain updates as to winnings.


Lastly, if we win the jackpot, all members must go to Mexico to celebrate. If you decide not to come, you forfeit your share of the prize and it goes to the other members for even a bigger party.


Haha...no.

[DJXP]

wow wow wow, lots of chances to win, good luck everyone :D

[ji2o0k]

don't worry bud, if we win, i'll get you a G, plus all the craziest pm's you can do in an hour :D
hahah getting senile in my old age.....I actually did send payment and am on the list !

(last name..........should be ji2o0k)....

[majesus]

Disagree with this. We should keep things very simple and set a deadline for joining and then thats it. If people want to join in they can come at the next renewal period.

Fair enough, although I disagree with your disagreement. I think it should be open so that we can encourage more to join. I do want as MANY People participating as possible. That is the point of this pool: the more that join the better our chances to win something. However, you do have a great point on its "simplicity." I'd like to hear what others think, and I'd go with the majority.



should be kept private on a blog accessible only to subscribers. the blog could also maintain updates as to winnings.
Agreed. :)



Lastly, if we win the jackpot, all members must go to Mexico to celebrate. If you decide not to come, you forfeit your share of the prize and it goes to the other members for even a bigger party.
Haha...no.
Not agreed :lol:



Totally disagree. There is very little effort in signing up for a subscription so a 'service fee' is just a means of making money by the organizer. It doesn't take much work to buy lottery tickets for any winnings and keeping people informed.

It depends on the level of complexity of the pool. I know UP worked a lot on our current pool. I placed the service fee to be fair for the organizer.
I am not saying a means of making money... but, someone has to manage this. If we can't find anyone willing to do it for free with quality. Then what can we do? Again, I'd like to hear what others think, and I'd go with the majority.

BTW MrDisco, I just want to say I'm not trying to contradict things that you say. We just have different opinions. You do bring excellent points, you rock! :)

[ji2o0k]

:arrowu:
This is all moot since we will be winning tonight ! YAH !!

**Actually both you guys bring up excellent points AND this definitely needs to be thought out clearly given the large amounts of money when we win...........if employees that work together and know each other can start flinging lawsuits left, right and centre, think what happens when a bunch of total strangers on a forum win?**

[legendofxix]

Good luck guys...

7/7 - We have a 1 in 74604 chance of winning (Approx $95000 a ticket)
6/7+B - We have a 1 in 10657 chance of winning (Approx $1000 a ticket)
6/7 - We have a 1 in 273 chance of winning (Approx $25 a ticket)
5/7 - We have a 1 in 4 chance of winning (Approx $2 per ticket)

Just rough estimates. The jackpot assumes only one winner.

So needless to say, anyone with hopes of actually winning... well, 1 in 74604 is better than 1 in 21 million, it's still not very likely. Even the 1 in 10657 isn't very likely (would sure be nice though!)

Where are you getting these odds? Are you a statistician cause you would totally fail at it.

The ACTUAL chance of hitting all 7 numbers with a possible 49 to choose from are about 1 in 85million.
Each row that you buy only increases your chances by 1.
Even with 600 tickets, it does not shrink the odds to 1 in 75,000.
Seriously, what math are you using.

[majesus]

Where are you getting these odds? Are you a statistician cause you would totally fail at it.

The ACTUAL chance of hitting all 7 numbers with a possible 49 to choose from are about 1 in 85million.
Each row that you buy only increases your chances by 1.
Even with 600 tickets, it does not shrink the odds to 1 in 75,000.
Seriously, what math are you using.

Wow... :evil:

First of all...He was being helpful, you... RUDE!

Second of all, what game are you playing? 49 numbers? Super7 has 47 numbers.

Third, the odds are
1 in 20,963,833 per play (per ticket.) Not per selection. Even if it was, it is still not 85 million.

You don't have to be a statistician to figure it out. Anyone with an average IQ size can do research and figure it out . You don't even make the cut.

For your information... read:
SUPER 7 Rules and Regulations (http://www.bclc.com/documents/LottoSuper7GameConditionsandPrizeStructureStatemen t.pdf). All the info you want is there... And BTW, adamtheman is correct, you are totally incorrect. Seriously, what math are you using?? :eek:

[B40]

I think UP should set up a personal paypal account... or downgrade his business account to a personal one (I think there is a way to do it).

If there were no paypal fees, we could pay less, UP would make the same amount of money and everyone would be happier.

[MrDisco]

BTW MrDisco, I just want to say I'm not trying to contradict things that you say. We just have different opinions. You do bring excellent points, you rock! :)

It's all good :)

[Hellfire]

UP man,

https://groupplay.lotterypromotions.ca/default.aspx?p=home

Hook us up. We have a good chance of winning.

[MrDisco]

UP man,

https://groupplay.lotterypromotions.ca/default.aspx?p=home

Hook us up. We have a good chance of winning.

nice find.
STQ answer i got was 49
now does he have the time to enter all the tickets in ;)

edit: at least you only have to register once..its pretty fast to enter the rest of the tickets after that

[UrbanPoet]

hey guys... i just updated. and im looking over the site and trying to set up a paypal personal account.
so far ive been keeping track of my time... i been buying tickets, scanning, uploading since 4:40pm.
i sign each ticket, and file them accordingly.

Okie... so it took me exactly 50 minutes to buy tickets, scan them, file them accordingly, and update the post accordingly.

[chococrazy]

Fyi, I just entered our work pool into that contest. you only have to enter the first line of the ticket, and then a couple of other things... not all the numbers. doesn't take too long to do :)

If you want, I can volunteer to sign us up and put them in. As long as the scans/photos are clear..!

[MrDisco]

Fyi, I just entered our work pool into that contest. you only have to enter the first line of the ticket, and then a couple of other things... not all the numbers. doesn't take too long to do :)

If you want, I can volunteer to sign us up and put them in. As long as the scans/photos are clear..!

so are we going to have multiple accounts for each group who plays? ;P

[UrbanPoet]

lolz.. if everyone on RFD wants to enter... i put all the old tickets into a show box.

[Hellfire]

So just curious, who is going to look though each scan to see our winnings at whatever time the draw is made?

UP, do you write RFD v.5 on the back of all the tickets or something?

[chococrazy]

so are we going to have multiple accounts for each group who plays? ;P

yeah.. i guess that would be hard to do. good point :)

[UrbanPoet]

So just curious, who is going to look though each scan to see our winnings at whatever time the draw is made?

UP, do you write RFD v.5 on the back of all the tickets or something?

i staple (i clip them this week b/c itsgetting really big) and file them into a folder.
this is actually in the FAQ. :D

[Hellfire]

i staple (i clip them this week b/c itsgetting really big) and file them into a folder.
this is actually in the FAQ. :D


You should add this to you FAQ:

If we win a big prize do we all have to show up at the prize center to claim it?

[clkio]

You should add this to you FAQ:

If we win a big prize do we all have to show up at the prize center to claim it?

ya, show up in a red shirt.

[Ben Doone]

ya, show up in a red shirt.

If we hit it big tonight..anyone care to meet up for drinks! :cheesygri

[Hellfire]

If we hit it big tonight..anyone care to meet up for drinks! :cheesygri

LoL yes, I'll book a last min flight and we can all party in TO.

What time is the draw anyway? 10:00 pm MST?

[Ben Doone]

LoL yes, I'll book a last min flight and we can all party in TO.

What time is the draw anyway? 10:00 pm MST?

Sounds like a good Plan!! Results should be up around 10:30 EST.

[UrbanPoet]

If we hit it big tonight..anyone care to meet up for drinks! :cheesygri

yeh.. it wouldnt matter the location either. ill just cab it there and back with no guilt.

[UrbanPoet]

ya, show up in a red shirt.

yes... if u dont show up in a red shirt ill be mad at you. (unless you are disabled or something...)
:D

Im just kidding... it would be pretty damn cool all showing up togetehr to get it... i mean... say we win this jackpot.. im sure the $96k per ticket you bought is gonna be a ncie excuse.

[Cyber6]

Sounds like a good Plan!! Results should be up around 10:30 EST.


I am in !!!.. Not everyday I party with a whole bunch of rich friends :D



C.

[UrbanPoet]

I am in !!!.. Not everyday I party with a whole bunch of rich friends :D



C.

ewww a party full of rich people.. will it be all snobby? pip pip cheerio.
http://www.kristianhoffman.com/images/mumps/mumps-tea-party.jpg

[poppa]

no pics of hot Korean daughter? ;)

[majesus]

I'll be there... I'll be hammered.

[Hellfire]

01 03 06 10 14 28 35

Bonus 40


Did we win?

[Webslinger]

Did we win?

Cursory glance indiates no (at least, for the grand prize)

I saw at least one $10 winner (4+bonus--but bonus doesn't count).

[UrbanPoet]

but what about... Version 4 :eek: there could very well be a jackpot that we forgot about!
there around a dozen tickets in that pool that are still alive!

[Webslinger]

but what about... Version 4 :eek: there could very well be a jackpot that we forgot about!
there around a dozen tickets in that pool that are still alive!

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/1465/dec806cont11oi9.jpg

I don't see the grand prize at least.

[B40]

One ticket we hit 1,3,6.. which are the 1st 3 numbers :|

Guess I have to keep working... is there enough time to set up a pool for tomorrow's 6/49 or Lottario? :cheesygri :|

[geebops]

Good things happen when you least expect it.

After reading this thread, you people were in way over your heads in terms of thinking you might actually win this thing.

[UrbanPoet]

Good things happen when you least expect it.

After reading this thread, you people were in way over your heads in terms of thinking you might actually win this thing.

lol... its fun to dreama lil. I think thats the whole point of lotteries.. =\
u never know.

[MrDisco]

After reading this thread, you people were in way over your heads in terms of thinking you might actually win this thing.

nobody likes a party pooper.

[ids748]

Ah i knew we wouldn't win. But I was bored and read the thread yesterday and thought I'd give it a chance and still played. oh well back to my god damn assignment which is due in 40 minutes. University SUX!!!!!!!!!!

Now i have no excuse not to finish this cuz I'm not 90 g's richer but 3 dollars poorer lol.

[MrDisco]

Guess I have to keep working... is there enough time to set up a pool for tomorrow's 6/49 or Lottario? :cheesygri :|

lol now we're just getting desperate. Still it is $8 million...

281 tickets for $27 million. If no one wins and this goes to $30+ million how many tickets do you think we can get? maybe 350? :P

[japcutie]

boo...... what a bummer.

I was hoping to have my osap debt paid off! :(

[UrbanPoet]

lol now we're just getting desperate. Still it is $8 million...

281 tickets for $27 million. If no one wins and this goes to $30+ million how many tickets do you think we can get? maybe 350? :P

webslinger, import pyscho, and you make up over a 3rd of the tickets. lol

[B40]

Good things happen when you least expect it.

After reading this thread, you people were in way over your heads in terms of thinking you might actually win this thing.

I don't think anybody realistically expected to win.. sure it's possible, but not very likely.

Isn't the whole point of buying lottery tickets thinking you might win anyways? It's just fun to think of what you'd do with that money :|

[JaGWiRE]

I don't think anybody realistically expected to win.. sure it's possible, but not very likely.

Isn't the whole point of buying lottery tickets thinking you might win anyways? It's just fun to think of what you'd do with that money :|


Yup. $3. And winning more tickets/ a few hundred in the pot means more tickets for the next one. I think it's ridiculous to say playing it is stupid, because I would say isn't buying candy stupid then?

[CSR]

hey guys... i just updated. and im looking over the site and trying to set up a paypal personal account.
so far ive been keeping track of my time... i been buying tickets, scanning, uploading since 4:40pm.
i sign each ticket, and file them accordingly.

Okie... so it took me exactly 50 minutes to buy tickets, scan them, file them accordingly, and update the post accordingly.

Alrite! So my suggestion worked??

I'm in on the next pool....

[MrDisco]

webslinger, import pyscho, and you make up over a 3rd of the tickets. lol

haha. yeah thats going to stop. i cant afford to play like this anymore. back to $2-$6 tickets for me.

[hyperion]

Wow 300 tickits. Good luck!!!

[majesus]

Good things happen when you least expect it.

After reading this thread, you people were in way over your heads in terms of thinking you might actually win this thing.

If you haven't read it yet, many times we said this was for fun. We can't have fun? Why do you spoil it for us?

We were still somewheres like 1 in 75000 to win. I didn't read anyone saying they quitted their day job in anticipation of a win.

[Alvito]

If you haven't read it yet, many times we said this was for fun. We can't have fun? Why do you spoil it for us?

We were still somewheres like 1 in 75000 to win. I didn't read anyone saying they quitted their day job in anticipation of a win.

This is why gamblers go bankrupt and huge debt.

Just because you have around 300 tickets doesn't mean your odds sky rocket.

Your odds of winning were 300 in 42,000,000 (or whatever the odds are of winning super 7.)

[Keelie]

lol now we're just getting desperate. Still it is $8 million...

281 tickets for $27 million. If no one wins and this goes to $30+ million how many tickets do you think we can get? maybe 350? :P

actually these draws have been for bonus money, people have been winning but each jackpot still goes up. the winner was in quebec i believe.. but the jackpot has still went to 30 million for next friday.

[royal]

hold up... any one got the tickets checked? did we win???

[royal]

NOpe!!.. just checked the tickets i guess we won $10 and a fre ticket according to me.!!!

[UrbanPoet]

we won $120!!!!
and a **** load of free tickets.. just scanned them after work... i had a late nighteR! luckily there was a cornerstore iopen late.
Anyways... will be scanning soon.

[MrDisco]

we won $120!!!!
and a **** load of free tickets.. just scanned them after work... i had a late nighteR! luckily there was a cornerstore iopen late.
Anyways... will be scanning soon.

sweet. cant wait to see how many free tickets we get to add to the 60 for this friday.

edit: how did our previous roll-overs do?

[MrDisco]

actually these draws have been for bonus money, people have been winning but each jackpot still goes up. the winner was in quebec i believe.. but the jackpot has still went to 30 million for next friday.

good point. they periodically hold 'super jackpots' to maintain the buying frenzy :)

[UrbanPoet]

scans updated and posted! sorry for the delay.. I had them an hr ago but my dad just discovered "the internet" :D

[Cyber6]

scans updated and posted! sorry for the delay.. I had them an hr ago but my dad just discovered "the internet" :D

Uh oh..... maybe is time the he get his own 'puter... :D


C.

[Shen]

sweeet, so when's the next one gonna start ?!?!

[UrbanPoet]

Uh oh..... maybe is time the he get his own 'puter... :D


C.

lolz. he's on the laptop. Im just showing him how to use it. My mom still pokes @ the mouse as if its some sort of very foriegn object wen shes on the comp..

[that_staples_guy]

lolz. he's on the laptop. Im just showing him how to use it. My mom still pokes @ the mouse as if its some sort of very foriegn object wen shes on the comp..


Dude I feel for ya man, give them time. My Dad figured Backspace was equivalent to Del so he spent two hours looping through this DOS initial set-up screen because of it. 7 years later, he can now build his own computer lol.

[Hellfire]

Just curious, did any line win us more than $10?

[UrbanPoet]

Just curious, did any line win us more than $10?

they were $10s. But i was watching the lotto retailer and his reciepts carefully.
I sign the back of all lotto tickets "Tony T RFD" so nothing will happen like those stories we hear on the news

[micronta]

they were $10s. But i was watching the lotto retailer and his reciepts carefully.
I sign the back of all lotto tickets "Tony T RFD" so nothing will happen like those stories we hear on the news

Good to know you are scrutinizing the retailer, I'm sure it's reassuring for all of us to hear that. From all the news we hear about retailers that scam consumers I am now always paranoid now when I go to any lotto retailer. Even when it says not a winner I always ask for the originals back and check to see if the numbers at the bottom match before throwing away.

[Captin Howdy]

lol did anyone remember to check over the "carried" over pool tickets? :confused:

(i'll check it later if no one already has)

[Hellfire]

1 6 26 27 32 38 47 20

[UrbanPoet]

lol did anyone remember to check over the "carried" over pool tickets? :confused:

(i'll check it later if no one already has)

they are posted and updated :confused:

[Hellfire]

So I take it no $$$ won to put toward the next draw?

[1jVu]

they were $10s. But i was watching the lotto retailer and his reciepts carefully.
I sign the back of all lotto tickets "Tony T RFD" so nothing will happen like those stories we hear on the news

well sometimes the screens arent facing me so what i do is just listen to the winner audio sound

[Captin Howdy]

well sometimes the screens arent facing me so what i do is just listen to the winner audio sound

Thats not a good idea from what i hear

I think CBC did a special and they found many stores would break the audio on the machines. So even if you did win you wouldn't hear the music.

Best thing to so is check it yourself

[Hellfire]

So we did win a free ticket...

And no new lotto pools? Seems the stamp money was better spent on tickets....