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ibear
Nov 29th, 2006, 01:32 AM
http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?webid=642979&AffixedCode=WW

price is $269.92 and you can use any $20 off coupon to bring the price down to $249.92

Features:
High Sensitivity SiRFstarIII GPS Receiver
Larger icons and a brighter display with a user-friendly touch screen make it easier to set your destination
Built-in Audio Player (MP3)
Map of Canada pre-loaded and ready to use out of the box (Map of USA is provided on bundled DVD)
Clear voice instructions and user-friendly menus in English, French and Spanish
No monthly service contract required
512MB ROM, 64MB RAM
3.5" TFT with touch screen and 65k colours
SD/MMC memory card expansion slot
Supports external TMC antenna
USB 1.1 connectivity
1200mAh Li-ion battery lasts up to 5 hours
Dimensions: 4.33"W x 3.03"H x 0.78"D
Weight: 6oz (170g)
1-year Limited Warranty.
Included in the Box:
AC Adapter and Car Charger
Car mount and holder
USB cable
Application CD, Map DVD

Firestorm
Nov 29th, 2006, 01:56 AM
Hm... this looks perfect for my mom. The other GPS device seems a bit hard to use. Anyone have experience with the quality of this product?

sportmiester
Nov 29th, 2006, 02:17 AM
The specs do look good, particularly SiRFstarIII and touch screen

Some reviews:
http://www.gpslodge.com/archives/006225.php
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2006/07/mio_c310_gps_review.html
http://www.amazon.com/Mio-C310-Portable-Navigation-Preloaded/dp/B000ENQSRW

frogger
Nov 29th, 2006, 08:38 AM
I wonder how good the TeleAtlas maps are/and whether Mio and TeleAtlas publish updates ever year or so.

Jrawk
Nov 29th, 2006, 08:43 AM
What is the map support like for these things?

Comparatively speaking it has a much larger screen than the Garmin i3 I'm going to pick up today, but I have bought a lot of electronics that were cheaper than the rest on the market and ended up getting little to no support down the road.

punchy_head
Nov 29th, 2006, 08:45 AM
Possible price match opportunity on this:

Best Buy
http://tinyurl.com/y4j6bv

Not good with the math, so the $20 coupon may be a better choice, but just in case if they run out of stock in a hurry.

Punchy

can2000
Nov 29th, 2006, 08:49 AM
Thanks OP!

Compare to Garmin C3xx, which one is better? Thanks

imnew
Nov 29th, 2006, 09:05 AM
How is this unit compare to the Garmin C530 that the Source has on sale?? Okay - not everyone at once... I know this is cheaper.. ahahha

thanks..

T3rry
Nov 29th, 2006, 09:06 AM
3.5" screen... that's pretty small. Probably not good for those with sausage fingers.

Jrawk
Nov 29th, 2006, 09:37 AM
3.5" screen... that's pretty small. Probably not good for those with sausage fingers.

3.5" is actually pretty big by GPS standards.

The i3 has only a 1.7" x 1.2" or something.

its tiny!

Mind you, a huge screen is not really necessary in most cases, but its all a matter of preference.

My main concern is the support.
Map updates, tech support, parts supports, repairs, etc.

By going with a large company you are getting their company backing as well, knowing they'll be around providing support for your product.

I dont think Mio is a small company, but Garmin and Megallan seem to have a large portion of the GPS market.

82
Nov 29th, 2006, 09:41 AM
Great deal but support is questionables. Check their press release, they have a dozen news in 2005 but nothing since Dec 2005!

The download page shows 404 Page not found.
http://service.mio-tech.com/visitor/v_FileDown2004C.asp

Picture is incorrect!
http://www.miogps.com/imagebank_C310s.htm

cpoole
Nov 29th, 2006, 09:41 AM
I looked at their web site - lots of pretty pages and lots of links to awards. Customer service pages are very slow. There is no mention on the customer service pages and nothing in the FAQ that indicates that they will release newer maps for any of their GPS units.

Magellan states that they will occasionally release new maps - I have not found any GPS on their support site that has received a map update.

Garmin does have newer maps on their web site and there are people on this forum who have upgraded their maps.

Nextar (Canadian Tire) finally released a US map for their early GPS units but they have not released any map upgrade for their models.

If you are OK using the same maps for the lifetime of the unit, then go with the best price. If you want support, then the list gets much shorter.

andreid
Nov 29th, 2006, 09:45 AM
I've been using a similar product (see www.gpspeople.ca then click on Altina) with great satisfaction.
The hardware is typical flimsy and cheap China-made but the software ( http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/destinatorsw.php ) is outstanding.

It have always found my destination and if sometimes the directions are BS, it generally is my fault (put it in "shortest route" while in a city).
Never really used POI.
One facility found in more expensive units is the "speed limit" even if it is annoying... constant beep beep!

P.S.: Watch out GPS with HDD as it will refuse to function in cold weather.
Watch out for big display unit, or where you install it in the car, as it might be stolen.

TurboTronix
Nov 29th, 2006, 09:48 AM
Well based on prices it seems soon all GPS will be under 300$. I use my Axim X51V when I need GPS but its way to complex for users such as my mom who need a simple GUI interface.

3.5" is ideal, not too small yet not too big, perfect for transporatation purposes.

Built in MP3, touchscreen, voice narrated, maps (USA and Canada), I think for 249$ its a hell of a deal :)

virgoan
Nov 29th, 2006, 09:50 AM
Possible price match opportunity on this:

Best Buy
http://tinyurl.com/y4j6bv

Not good with the math, so the $20 coupon may be a better choice, but just in case if they run out of stock in a hurry.

Punchy

Damn because of BB price, I wanna get this from staples IMMEDIATELY, without research :lol:

TurboTronix
Nov 29th, 2006, 09:51 AM
Click on the picture to enlarge and its the same pic as the original posted by staples...



Great deal but support is questionables. Check their press release, they have a dozen news in 2005 but nothing since Dec 2005!

The download page shows 404 Page not found.
http://service.mio-tech.com/visitor/v_FileDown2004C.asp

Picture is incorrect!
http://www.miogps.com/imagebank_C310s.htm

Snoopygis
Nov 29th, 2006, 09:52 AM
Possible price match opportunity on this:

Best Buy
http://tinyurl.com/y4j6bv

Not good with the math, so the $20 coupon may be a better choice, but just in case if they run out of stock in a hurry.

Punchy


Not to sure, but will BB PM with Staples?

mixpdf
Nov 29th, 2006, 09:56 AM
Great deal but support is questionables. Check their press release, they have a dozen news in 2005 but nothing since Dec 2005!
You're kidding, right?

http://www.miogps.com/CA/news.htm

[H]ackerK
Nov 29th, 2006, 09:57 AM
I have tested C310 before (see my other posts) this is for sure hell alot better than the one CT was selling. Also this one seems to be running TomTom GPS software (which IMHO is the best GPS software I have tested)

And I would say this is a pretty hot deal. Compare to last time I saw this @ Staples was selling $399

It also has a SD card slot if I remember correctly. I am not sure if you can load other TT maps on a SD card and use it elsewhere. If this can be done, this is a super hot deal!!!

shneebs
Nov 29th, 2006, 10:01 AM
This model seems to be fairly well reviewed...

http://www.gpslodge.com/archives/006225.php
http://www.cnet.com.au/pdas/gps/0,239035573,339271591,00.htm
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2006/07/mio_c310_gps_review.html
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060707.gtmiojul7/BNStory/Technology/TechReviews

...and a video review on YouTube.com (which looks quite "promotional", but you can at least see the screens, etc...):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Xt6w6_B20

(EDIT: The "BuyTV" segments are from the US Buy.com website, so judge the "review" accordingly. :) )

Shneebs.

microBe
Nov 29th, 2006, 10:07 AM
ackerK;4239946']Also this one seems to be running TomTom GPS software

Just curious... where did you get that from? If this is indeed running TT, I'm all for it too.

TurboTronix
Nov 29th, 2006, 10:14 AM
From review: "What is new about these GPS receivers is they rely on the Destinator platform. The Destinator software platform provides turn-by-turn voice guidance, automatic recalculation of routes, and millions of POIs."

So not TomTom...

Just curious... where did you get that from? If this is indeed running TT, I'm all for it too.

Like my Axim Gps soft can be easily updated, I never had a stand alone device, are they upgradable? Can I update the maps?

82
Nov 29th, 2006, 10:19 AM
I am using this link... probably they changed their website and leaving old links in the system.
http://www.miogps.com/news.htm

You're kidding, right?

http://www.miogps.com/CA/news.htm

TurboTronix
Nov 29th, 2006, 10:33 AM
Its crazy I found hacks for this device.

Use your own maps, even watch MP4 video :)

http://www.gpslodge.com/archives/008583.php
http://www.fatwallet.com/t/24/676365/
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=130818&t=381381

frogger
Nov 29th, 2006, 10:38 AM
Its crazy I found hacks for this device.

Use your own maps, even watch MP4 video :)

http://www.gpslodge.com/archives/008583.php
http://www.fatwallet.com/t/24/676365/

Keep in mind the C310x is out, its basically the replacement for the c310.

TurboTronix
Nov 29th, 2006, 10:48 AM
Keep in mind the C310x is out, its basically the replacement for the c310.


I think the only diff is that one has bluetooth...but both are the same in everything else...

Jrawk
Nov 29th, 2006, 10:57 AM
Keep in mind the C310x is out, its basically the replacement for the c310.

Yeah, those show they are for the C310x, and this is only the C310..
What is the difference and will they still work?

dav1209
Nov 29th, 2006, 11:18 AM
just to let you know you can stack both coupons to bring the price down to $239.92

-$20 off $150 code 78111
-$20 off $150 code 82414
-$10 off $100 code 82435

82
Nov 29th, 2006, 11:22 AM
Is the hack for the C310 or C310x?

Its crazy I found hacks for this device.

Use your own maps, even watch MP4 video :)

http://www.gpslodge.com/archives/008583.php
http://www.fatwallet.com/t/24/676365/
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=130818&t=381381

Chi-tel
Nov 29th, 2006, 11:24 AM
use my division coupon $30off 150 and a $10 off $100 (82435) , final price is $229.92+tax for me

Jrawk
Nov 29th, 2006, 11:44 AM
just to let you know you can stack both coupons to bring the price down to $239.92

-$20 off $150 code 78111
-$20 off $150 code 82414
-$10 off $100 code 82435

I'm picking one up in store.
Is there any way to get the coupon codes used if bought instore?

dav1209
Nov 29th, 2006, 11:44 AM
i used my dividend coupon $30 off $150 and a reward $30 coupon and a $10 off 100 bring the total price down to 199.92
super hot deals for a GPS unit with 3.5 inches touch screen and mp3 player


Dividend$ No.: XXXXXXXXXX
Coupon Code # 82435: -$10.00
Coupon Code # XXXXXXXXXXXXXX: -$30.00
Coupon Code # XXXXXXXXXXXXXX: -$30.00
Delivery Charge: Free
Order Total excl. tax: $199.92

dav1209
Nov 29th, 2006, 11:46 AM
I'm picking one up in store.
Is there any way to get the coupon codes used if bought instore?

no....those are for online order only
can't use them instore....it's some type of promote the online and phone sale only so it's not available for instore pick up

punchy_head
Nov 29th, 2006, 11:47 AM
Yeah, I would also like to know if we can use Coupon Codes in-store.

Punchy

Ctrl-Z
Nov 29th, 2006, 11:59 AM
Yeah, I would also like to know if we can use Coupon Codes in-store.

Punchy

Not bloody likely.

For me it means I don't buy from Staples. Coupons are web only. No store pickup. Someone must be home from 9-5 to sign for delivery. No evening delivery in my area. For people who work during the day (i.e. the vast majority), Staples website shopping is a bad joke.

Sohkeung
Nov 29th, 2006, 12:01 PM
As usual, seems to be OOS now. >:(

Jrawk
Nov 29th, 2006, 12:09 PM
As usual, seems to be OOS now. >:(

I just ordered one from their site and it processed.

I also picked one up in store, brand new and sealed. (Didnt know if i could get the coupons off in store, but didnt want to chance an OOS reply)

So if anyone wants the second one, you can have it for the price of the unit w/receipt.

hardywang
Nov 29th, 2006, 12:27 PM
Ship to where you work could be better choice:D

Not bloody likely.

For me it means I don't buy from Staples. Coupons are web only. No store pickup. Someone must be home from 9-5 to sign for delivery. No evening delivery in my area. For people who work during the day (i.e. the vast majority), Staples website shopping is a bad joke.

TurboTronix
Nov 29th, 2006, 12:31 PM
Is the hack for the C310 or C310x?
In the hack they mention C310 as a general name, I think C310x comes with extra features but both use the same software. So I guess both are hacked...

Got one online so I'll test it out.

guest3721
Nov 29th, 2006, 12:33 PM
whats the regular price for this thing?

guest3721
Nov 29th, 2006, 01:01 PM
Ordered!!

Stacked A $20 And A $10 Coupon.

Once Again, Damn U Red Flaggers!

rambokid
Nov 29th, 2006, 01:07 PM
OOS GTA :mad:

hardcoredummy
Nov 29th, 2006, 01:13 PM
Damnit, OOS for me.

Neb
Nov 29th, 2006, 01:16 PM
ahh.. OOS for me.. was going to order when i got home... damn you RFD.. :)

coeternity
Nov 29th, 2006, 01:53 PM
in stock in gva.

i am just gonna wait for psp gps :lol:

Delroy666
Nov 29th, 2006, 02:15 PM
Ordered one (in Ottawa), stacked the $10 and $20 coupons. Awesome deal.

aragingbull
Nov 29th, 2006, 03:01 PM
does anyone know if this will work internationally like asia? i'm thinking it will need some asia maps to be loaded. i'm heading to japan for the holidays and thought this might come in handy. anyone???

mahjongmaniac
Nov 29th, 2006, 03:01 PM
3.5" screen... that's pretty small. Probably not good for those with sausage fingers.

lol for GPS screens, it's not that small...

were you expecting 7" dvd-player-type screen? :-0

-----------

Possible price match opportunity on this:

Best Buy
http://tinyurl.com/y4j6bv

Not good with the math, so the $20 coupon may be a better choice, but just in case if they run out of stock in a hurry.

Punchy

wow... $450 at BB?


well, if you just use a coupon at stooples, it'd work out to pretty much the same PM savings ...

gumby
Nov 29th, 2006, 03:05 PM
in stock in Ottawa. Ordered 1. Thanks OP.

FYI, Costco.ca has the exact same one for $419.99
http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290806&whse=BCCA&topnav=&browse=&s=1

mahjongmaniac
Nov 29th, 2006, 03:13 PM
just to let you know you can stack both coupons to bring the price down to $239.92

-$20 off $150 code 78111
-$20 off $150 code 82414
-$10 off $100 code 82435

IINM, the 78111 code should've expired on the 27th, but i checked on the 26th and it already expired!


the other 2 codes seem to be fine...

guest3721
Nov 29th, 2006, 03:17 PM
I used

-$20 off $150 code 82414
-$10 off $100 code 82435

and they both work.

mahjongmaniac
Nov 29th, 2006, 03:21 PM
I used

-$20 off $150 code 82414
-$10 off $100 code 82435

and they both work.

well, i know for sure the 78111 expired already.

the 82414 should be expiring near the end of Dec., IIRC,... the 82435 - not sure.

aragingbull
Nov 29th, 2006, 03:38 PM
agghhh. oos in calgary. i added the item and coupons, went to checkout and it's showing oos.

JackLeFataliste
Nov 29th, 2006, 03:41 PM
The newer C310x was selling for 149.99$US in the states on Black Friday at Staples (november 24th). They've been spotted regularly for 199.99$ since. Mio seems to want to be clearing them.

The difference between the C310 and the C310x is more memory on the c310x (1gb vs 512mb), and a newer map program (iGo)

ahyue2
Nov 29th, 2006, 04:00 PM
Tried adding it to Cart in Toronto, out of stock...

did someone also try stacking 83020? ($20 off >200)

AMD'd
Nov 29th, 2006, 04:07 PM
I picked one up today at the store to try it out. I am comparing it to the Garmin C530 on at sale at the Source.

Pros:
* It is thinner - would be able to stick it in a coat pocket or purse. Can't do that with the Garmin (which is more like a lopsided potatoe shape)
* MP3 player (but like who doesn't have one). Handy I guess if you store your music on flash cards and can just shuffle them into the device.
* Cheap (sale $239 versus $449 for the C530)
* Features and usage are very similar to the Garmin. They work slightly differently and pro/con is an individual preference.

Cons:
* It uses TeleAtlas maps. The Navteq maps in the Garmin for Canada are more detailed. I spoke to a Destinator tech rep (map software that the Mio uses) and they also indicated Navteq maps are preferred. However due to compression algorithms that are used to get the maps to under 1GB, you can't just load the Navteq maps on the Mio. That might be a possiblity in the future as space becomes less of an issue and manufacturers don't need to compress. (Garmin also uses two versions of their maps depending on compression)
* It has 512MB for storage plus the SD slot (C530 1 GB plus SD)
* When viewing the maps, the roads on the Mio show jagged edges. They are perfectly smooth on the Garmin. Not sure if it is software, maps or screen that causes this but it is very noticeable. The Garmin is much more pleasant to look at
* Mio's web site is extremely slow.
* Only Canada maps are preloaded with US main routes. The US software comes with it but would need to be loaded on an SD card - not sure of the response time differences. But practically speaking, unless you are flipping between countries regularly, you won't need both loaded anyway and you should have plenty of time to change it when you need to.
* The voice and the way the directions are spoken is nicer on the Garmin
* The web site does not discuss maps. The TeleAtlas maps that it has loaded are from 2005 - these are the latest maps right now. However there is no discussion of upgrade on the site or purchase ability. I am awaiting an email from Mio on purchasing European maps. The Mio models in Europe use a different software than Destinator so it is unlikely that their maps would work. A definite negative for me.
* Doesn't have WAAS capability - Garmin does.

In summary I am torn. I like the Garmin better but the Mio is almost half the price. Further investigation on Europe maps and usage is required.

imnew
Nov 29th, 2006, 04:53 PM
Thanks AMD for the review..... I was torn between the two, but it's look like I'm leaning towards the Garmin......

I currently have the Dell GPS, it frozed on me last week on the way to US and it p me off.... So, am thinking about the Garmin... They are selling it over 400USD in the US, way cheaper here until the sales is over..

Thanks again....

:)

TurboTronix
Nov 29th, 2006, 05:23 PM
Yes Garmin is top and who wouldn't say the same. But for the price I'll take it. Plus its hackable and you can watch MP4 video on it! And it has an external memory slot and its High Sensitivity SiRFstarIII...

The only thing is I'll have to see how good the maps are and if they are upgradable (ordered it today).

crikey
Nov 29th, 2006, 05:29 PM
This thread (http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/messageview.php?start=0&catid=18&threadid=668933) states how the Mio C310 GPS can be hacked to play video, WinAmp and synchable via MS Activesync. It also says instructions on how to add your own POIs.

cy
Nov 29th, 2006, 05:32 PM
This might be repost, but for those that need a $20 off coupon and the old ones are expired, just got an email today with a new code: 82993

k__dam
Nov 29th, 2006, 05:55 PM
hi y cant i stack 3 coupons?? i can do two of them but the 3rd says error.

im using these 3

$20 off $150 code 82414
-$10 off $100 code 82435
$20 off code 82993

cy
Nov 29th, 2006, 06:00 PM
hi y cant i stack 3 coupons?? i can do two of them but the 3rd says error.

im using these 3

$20 off $150 code 82414
-$10 off $100 code 82435
$20 off code 82993

2 coupon at most on the online shopping.

mahjongmaniac
Nov 29th, 2006, 06:52 PM
This might be repost, but for those that need a $20 off coupon and the old ones are expired, just got an email today with a new code: 82993

that's a $20off200.

expiry?

----------

hi y cant i stack 3 coupons?? i can do two of them but the 3rd says error.

im using these 3

$20 off $150 code 82414
-$10 off $100 code 82435
$20 off code 82993

82993 is a $20off200.

so you'll need min. $450 purchase to qualify to use all 3.


and since online only allows a max of 2 to be stacked manually, you'll need to call in for the 3rd one.

Jrawk
Nov 29th, 2006, 07:37 PM
I used mine today.
I like it
I have nothing to compare it to, but it worked without flaw, Night mode was pretty slick, the 3d view is nice and crisp, the overtop view is a little jagged.

I say go for it

cy
Nov 29th, 2006, 10:10 PM
that's a $20off200.

expiry?

----------



82993 is a $20off200.

so you'll need min. $450 purchase to qualify to use all 3.


and since online only allows a max of 2 to be stacked manually, you'll need to call in for the 3rd one.

Hi,
thanks for pointing out, it's $20 off $200. Expiry Dec 5

qqbbg
Nov 29th, 2006, 10:40 PM
Seems Staples just restocked its online inventory. Just ordered mine. Those who want this gotta be hurry. Good luck! :lol:

Dejiko, nyo!
Nov 29th, 2006, 11:07 PM
Seems Staples just restocked its online inventory. Just ordered mine. Those who want this gotta be hurry. Good luck! :lol:

Sweet! Now I'm glad I checked RFD instead of watching the first five minutes of The Daily Show. Ordered with $10 and $20 off.

a in yul
Nov 29th, 2006, 11:45 PM
Sweet! Now I'm glad I checked RFD instead of watching the first five minutes of The Daily Show. Ordered with $10 and $20 off.

thanks to the OP, picked one up too...

For those that want/need an updated alaska, hawaii and canada map the following link provides instructions and best of all; free..

http://www.my-guide.de/support/

kamran
Nov 29th, 2006, 11:48 PM
ordered, thanks

xinix
Nov 29th, 2006, 11:54 PM
After several tries I've managed to hack the device to play video and all that other good stuf. I'll end up using this more for movies than gps.. the ce interface is really fast and so is video playback. thanks op for the awesome deal!

a in yul
Nov 30th, 2006, 12:28 AM
After several tries I've managed to hack the device to play video and all that other good stuf. I'll end up using this more for movies than gps.. the ce interface is really fast and so is video playback. thanks op for the awesome deal!

now i am sure i am not the only one who wants to be able to do that as well, can u post the method so we can try it as well..

and once u modify to watch videos, can u stil use the gps software??

dav1209
Nov 30th, 2006, 01:27 AM
staples sent me an email said they are out of stock for that items
i order early today...anyone got the email for out of stock ?

jochooi
Nov 30th, 2006, 02:36 AM
... its started already ... stOOpleS ...

lhsonic
Nov 30th, 2006, 02:57 AM
retail price at Costco is $419.

http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290806&whse=BCCA&topnav=&browse=&s=1

kamran
Nov 30th, 2006, 04:53 AM
Mio C310x wiki
http://johntam.com/tiki-index.php?page=Mio+c310x+GPS#Hack_the_Mio_c310x
lots of sites have the hack info, here's another
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=61233

now i am sure i am not the only one who wants to be able to do that as well, can u post the method so we can try it as well..

and once u modify to watch videos, can u stil use the gps software??

mahjongmaniac
Nov 30th, 2006, 08:35 AM
Sweet! Now I'm glad I checked RFD instead of watching the first five minutes of The Daily Show. Ordered with $10 and $20 off.

for those who wanna save those coupons and just use a $30off200, you can apply 81741 :D

Snoopygis
Nov 30th, 2006, 08:52 AM
Seems Staples just restocked its online inventory. Just ordered mine. Those who want this gotta be hurry. Good luck! :lol:

Sold out again!!! Do these guys release only like 5 for sale on the web or what?

I'll never be able to buy this because it's sold out on the web site AND no store has any in stock.

Here's the funny thing, this deal was found in the staples flyer in effect from Nov. 29 to Dec. 24. So, theoretically, they should have stock until the end of Dec.

TurboTronix
Nov 30th, 2006, 09:16 AM
now i am sure i am not the only one who wants to be able to do that as well, can u post the method so we can try it as well..

and once u modify to watch videos, can u stil use the gps software??


You should be able to use the GPS and watch Video. The hack takes advantage of Win CE which this is built on...

Can't wait to start testing it out, I wonder if it works with 4gb or higher SD cards...

AMD'd
Nov 30th, 2006, 09:30 AM
Just received an email from tech support at Mio.

Map upgrades are available early next year but at a cost if you purchase now. There are no maps available for Europe for the C310S (Canadian model).

I used both yesterday and there was not a response difference between the C310 and the Garmin C530. They do voice prompts slightly differently but nothing that makes one better than the other. The C310 does like to u-turn you and the Garmin has never done that, but after a 100m or so the C310 gives up and recalculates the route without a u-turn.

At the price it is hard to beat if you don't plan on using it outside of North America.

Tech question - if the C310 is essentially a PDA with built in GPS should one not be able to load any navigation software package and then therefore the maps that match that software?

a in yul
Nov 30th, 2006, 09:30 AM
Mio C310x wiki
http://johntam.com/tiki-index.php?page=Mio+c310x+GPS#Hack_the_Mio_c310x
lots of sites have the hack info, here's another
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=61233

hoping my order doesnt get cancelled, this is my weekend project..!!

thanks for the links..!

EDIT: just got an OOS email.!!

romm2002a
Nov 30th, 2006, 10:07 AM
Ordered one (in Ottawa), stacked the $10 and $20 coupons. Awesome deal.

Im in Ottawa too.. trying to get one but OOS :(

TurboTronix
Nov 30th, 2006, 10:12 AM
This device was bought by so many people that I am sure the new maps will be leaked on the net :)

Just received an email from tech support at Mio.

Map upgrades are available early next year but at a cost if you purchase now. There are no maps available for Europe for the C310S (Canadian model).

I used both yesterday and there was not a response difference between the C310 and the Garmin C530. They do voice prompts slightly differently but nothing that makes one better than the other. The C310 does like to u-turn you and the Garmin has never done that, but after a 100m or so the C310 gives up and recalculates the route without a u-turn.

At the price it is hard to beat if you don't plan on using it outside of North America.

Tech question - if the C310 is essentially a PDA with built in GPS should one not be able to load any navigation software package and then therefore the maps that match that software?

k__dam
Nov 30th, 2006, 10:13 AM
hoping my order doesnt get cancelled, this is my weekend project..!!

thanks for the links..!

EDIT: just got an OOS email.!!

What time did you order your unit and how long afterwards did they send the oos email??

Jrawk
Nov 30th, 2006, 10:28 AM
Attempting to unlock it now.

Edit:
I dont have my cable to do so... :D

fnd0001
Nov 30th, 2006, 10:40 AM
For the one looking in Ottawa, I saw them available over in hull, if you are still looking one.

good luck.

FD

aragingbull
Nov 30th, 2006, 11:17 AM
found one in store but they won't let me use the online coupon. well at least i tried. no harm in asking.

guest3721
Nov 30th, 2006, 11:29 AM
Map upgrades are available early next year but at a cost if you purchase now

Thats a shame that we have to pay for maps in the near future. Guess I'll be scouring the net before purchasing.

AMD'd
Nov 30th, 2006, 12:39 PM
Attempting to unlock it now.

Edit:
I dont have my cable to do so... :D


The cable came in the box and regardless it is a standard USB cable (with the small connector at the MIO end).

I could not get it to be recognized with just the USB drivers but did get it connected with Activesync (the software that comes on the DVD). That lets you look at the directories and add stuff to it (albeit at USB1.1 speeds).

Jrawk
Nov 30th, 2006, 12:55 PM
The cable came in the box and regardless it is a standard USB cable (with the small connector at the MIO end).

I could not get it to be recognized with just the USB drivers but did get it connected with Activesync (the software that comes on the DVD). That lets you look at the directories and add stuff to it (albeit at USB1.1 speeds).

I dont have the disk on me either. I went on the website and downloaded the USB drivers and the mio tool application.
When i connected it it said USB device not useable or something.
Then tried to update the driver, and said the drivers it is using are better suited than the real drivers... *shrug*

AMD'd
Nov 30th, 2006, 01:00 PM
Jrawk;

I had exactly the the same error - never did it to work that way. You need to use Activesync. Get a free download from http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/activesync/default.mspx

The Mio guide recommends loading the application and then connecting MIO and using the interface as a Guest. Use Explore in Activesync to see the Mio. I think you should be able to follow the hack instructions from this point although I have not tried it yet.

Jrawk
Nov 30th, 2006, 01:43 PM
Jrawk;

I had exactly the the same error - never did it to work that way. You need to use Activesync. Get a free download from http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/activesync/default.mspx

The Mio guide recommends loading the application and then connecting MIO and using the interface as a Guest. Use Explore in Activesync to see the Mio. I think you should be able to follow the hack instructions from this point although I have not tried it yet.

Awesome.

Thanks dude.
I'm on it, and I'll let you know how it goes.


Edit: Still didn't work.
I don't know about this cable. It has some weird connect and looks a bit sketchy.
I'll be home from work soon enough and will try with the correct cable.

virgoan
Nov 30th, 2006, 04:05 PM
I ordered mine at around 11pm last night (Scarborough), but didn't get the OOS email yet.. Those who get the OOS email, when did you place your order? And are you in the GTA?

Wilbo
Nov 30th, 2006, 04:27 PM
Yea... Ordered mine around 11pm last night (Markham)... Still no OOS email yet...

Does Staples send you an email when it ships or just one email at the start and that's it?

a in yul
Nov 30th, 2006, 04:40 PM
What time did you order your unit and how long afterwards did they send the oos email??

i ordered last night at 1130pm, and got the email this morning at 1030...

go figure, now i know what everyone means when they say stOOPles...

good luck to those who got in..

GateGuardian
Nov 30th, 2006, 06:41 PM
I own a Mio A701, it's not a standalone GPS system, but a mobile phone with GPS. The GPS on it is pretty good. I can get a fix pretty fast and the accuracy is within 10meters. However, the support sux BIG time. It's based in Taiwan and if you need to get your system repair, be prepared for at least 3months wait and customer service worse than Rogers/Bell.

a in yul
Nov 30th, 2006, 07:55 PM
I own a Mio A701, it's not a standalone GPS system, but a mobile phone with GPS. The GPS on it is pretty good. I can get a fix pretty fast and the accuracy is within 10meters. However, the support sux BIG time. It's based in Taiwan and if you need to get your system repair, be prepared for at least 3months wait and customer service worse than Rogers/Bell.

hmm, i went to the staples and prepaid for one unit, apparently stock is coming in this weekend..!!

Staples_Associate
Nov 30th, 2006, 08:27 PM
hmm, i went to the staples in marchecentral and prepaid for one unit, apparently stock is coming in this weekend..!!

Official Word from Head Office:
-----------------------------

Stock is coming into all stores (minimum 5 units). Given that these units got stuck at the border, they have been delayed at all stores.

Pre-orders accepted and will be filled as needed.

Meaning, anyone can buy this and get it no problem before Christmas. All preorders will be filled by the 16th of December with no issues whatsoever.

Hope this helps people looking to buy one. Go into your local Staples store, you are most definetly guaranteed one.

Staples_Associate
Nov 30th, 2006, 08:28 PM
i ordered last night at 1130pm, and got the email this morning at 1030...

go figure, now i know what everyone means when they say stOOPles...

good luck to those who got in..

Go to your store, they are taking preorders for the units.

a in yul
Nov 30th, 2006, 08:55 PM
Go to your store, they are taking preorders for the units.

Thanks for the info, the downside to this is that we have to pay more since the online coupons cant be used...

and why is it that we cannot preorder these via the online store..? It would be just as easy in terms of logistics, if not easier and more time efficient and cost efficient..

????

dav1209
Nov 30th, 2006, 09:28 PM
my order was on yesterday around 12-1PM ....so ealier than your order but i got the OOS email
my order with $30 off 150 and 10off $100 plus $30 cash coupon for total of 199.92...maybe that's the reason why i got OOS email
Dave

a in yul
Nov 30th, 2006, 09:36 PM
my order was on yesterday around 12-1PM ....so ealier than your order but i got the OOS email
my order with $30 off 150 and 10off $100 plus $30 cash coupon for total of 199.92...maybe that's the reason why i got OOS email
Dave

yeah, perhaps they thought the price was too low..??!!

PS: whats a cash coupon.?

stangman
Nov 30th, 2006, 10:04 PM
I picked one up today in-store. Still a decent price without the coupons anyway.
I'll let you know how it goes.

Tried it out tonight in my car during a short trip and it was OK. I like the big screen better than the Garmin Streetpilot i3 that I picked up at The Source last week for $199. Maps aren't as pretty as the Garmin, but I am willing to make the sacrifice if the listed hacks work on the Mio.

Update later.....

Jrawk
Nov 30th, 2006, 10:09 PM
Jrawk;

I had exactly the the same error - never did it to work that way. You need to use Activesync. Get a free download from http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/activesync/default.mspx

The Mio guide recommends loading the application and then connecting MIO and using the interface as a Guest. Use Explore in Activesync to see the Mio. I think you should be able to follow the hack instructions from this point although I have not tried it yet.

Got it.
I managed to get it unlocked so it works with Windows CE.
I haven't fully messes around with what it can do, or worked with the media capabilities, but I am able to get it to and from CE, and into the map software.

I'll do a writeup of how to do it tomorrow.
no time to mess around with it or write it out today, but it is quite simple.

mineown
Nov 30th, 2006, 10:20 PM
Got it.
I managed to get it unlocked so it works with Windows CE.
I haven't fully messes around with what it can do, or worked with the media capabilities, but I am able to get it to and from CE, and into the map software.

I'll do a writeup of how to do it tomorrow.
no time to mess around with it or write it out today, but it is quite simple.

Wow!
I can't wait to see how you did it!
I can only find hack info for c310x.
One thing, is it easy to restore your c310s to factory install if anything goes wrong?

chris ng
Nov 30th, 2006, 10:21 PM
grrr.. Placed an order for the unit online on wednesday.. I knew that nobody was going to be home during their scheduled daytime delivery, so I gave them a call and requested evening delivery ... No problem they said, they would inform the delivery company of the change .. Looked forward all day to recieveing the new package and having the weekend to play around with it...
unfortunately, when I arrived home I found a notice on my door telling me that I missed delivery and they would try again.. the time they noted was 2:30pm ... :( ... gave staples a call and asked them what happened with my evening delivery .. no appologies, just an explanation that they could once again attempt an evening delivery, but now I would have to wait till tuesday ....

just venting...

a in yul
Nov 30th, 2006, 10:24 PM
Got it.
I managed to get it unlocked so it works with Windows CE.
I haven't fully messes around with what it can do, or worked with the media capabilities, but I am able to get it to and from CE, and into the map software.

I'll do a writeup of how to do it tomorrow.
no time to mess around with it or write it out today, but it is quite simple.

cant wait to read all the writeups on modding; awaiting desperately to get my unit..!!

chimaera15
Nov 30th, 2006, 10:49 PM
A quick general GPS question. If I buy a device here in Canada to be used in France, aside from having to buy the maps are there any other downsides versus buying it over there?

wstam
Nov 30th, 2006, 11:32 PM
A quick general GPS question. If I buy a device here in Canada to be used in France, aside from having to buy the maps are there any other downsides versus buying it over there?

My friend buy the GPSlim236 in Canada and there is no problem using it in China. It just take very long time to sync at the first time.

k__dam
Dec 1st, 2006, 12:23 AM
staples online has restocked,,better hurry guys!

TurboTronix
Dec 1st, 2006, 12:31 AM
Damn missed the delivery (got a message on the door) :lol:

Now when will they come back!!! oh boy what luck I've got... :|

a in yul
Dec 1st, 2006, 12:44 AM
staples online has restocked,,better hurry guys!

funny thing is that now i get a message saying coupon already used..??

does that mean my previous order was valid or is there a best before date on the 20 and 10$ coupons..?

($20 off $150 code 82414 and -$10 off $100 code 82435)

got an email confirming oder, now lets see if i get an OOS tomorrow morning again..., or will end up with 2 deliveries...

EDIT: apparently 6 left for now...

k__dam
Dec 1st, 2006, 12:46 AM
funny thing is that now i get a message saying coupon already used..??

does that mean my previous order was valid or is there a best before date on the 20 and 10$ coupons..?

Try the $30 dollar coupon 81741

a in yul
Dec 1st, 2006, 12:53 AM
Try the $30 dollar coupon 81741


many thanks, got the confirmtion email..!:lol:

i am curious though, why did i get the msg earlier saying coupon used..?

rf134a
Dec 1st, 2006, 01:01 AM
Is this the 310 with 512MB rom, 310S with 1GB rom or the 310x with 2GB rom? I'm guessing it's the one with 1GB of rom.

can2000
Dec 1st, 2006, 01:11 AM
What video format can this unit play?
How can I use its built-in audio player (mp3) in the car?
Thanks

a in yul
Dec 1st, 2006, 01:19 AM
What video format can this unit play?
How can I use its built-in audio player (mp3) in the car?
Thanks

i am SURE that it can play MPEG4, and LESS SURE that with the TCPM(sp)programme u can play all formats, but someone with more precise info can interject and confirm

for the mp3, save onto SD card; if u want to also play WAV i think u need to do some modifications..

chris ng
Dec 1st, 2006, 01:21 AM
I belive you have your model #'s slightly confused ..
This is the 310S model .. 512megs of ram .. the 310s was a canadian only model .. americans got the 310 which had 1 gig of ram.. the american 310 was replaced with the 310x which came with 1 or 2 gigs of ram depending on date of manufacture.. the 310x also utilized diffrent mapping software.. the ony reason the american models had more memory was because the US maps were preloaded and required more memory..

As for playing mp3's.. the unit has a built in speaker for you to listen to your mp3's .. it also has a headphone jack you can use when you are walking around town .. If you want to have it output to your car speakers, there are several methods you can use.. your stereo may have an aux input which you can patch the unit in via the headphone jack.. you can also utilize an FM modulator in which you plug into the headphone jack and tune into a pre-set FM station on your stereo for output ...

a in yul
Dec 1st, 2006, 01:21 AM
Is this the 310 with 512MB rom, 310S with 1GB rom or the 310x with 2GB rom? I'm guessing it's the one with 1GB of rom.

after doing alot of surfing researching this unit, i know all the older units ie 310 is 2GB and the 310x are 1GB, i dont think any have 512 though.

Given that this unit is 310 i am assuming its 2GB, but someone who has recd unit can confirm.

a in yul
Dec 1st, 2006, 01:35 AM
ok, thanks for the clarification. U r right, the sites i was surfin were American hence the info i gleamed could and is limited to American models, my mistake.

And thank u for your complete answer to the other OP's question, i now realize that in my haste my answer was long from complete. (Lesson learned...hehe..)
I belive you have your model #'s slightly confused ..
This is the 310S model .. 512megs of ram .. the 310s was a canadian only model .. americans got the 310 which had 1 gig of ram.. the american 310 was replaced with the 310x which came with 1 or 2 gigs of ram depending on date of manufacture.. the 310x also utilized diffrent mapping software.. the ony reason the american models had more memory was because the US maps were preloaded and required more memory..


As for playing mp3's.. the unit has a built in speaker for you to listen to your mp3's .. it also has a headphone jack you can use when you are walking around town .. If you want to have it output to your car speakers, there are several methods you can use.. your stereo may have an aux input which you can patch the unit in via the headphone jack.. you can also utilize an FM modulator in which you plug into the headphone jack and tune into a pre-set FM station on your stereo for output ...

cy
Dec 1st, 2006, 04:45 AM
I ordered one on tue midnight and received today. Used $30 and my $23 dividend coupon, $247 after tax ;) Gonna use one of these until i find a good deal for Nuvi 660 heh.


Question: Anyway to get all streets name to display under 3D mode? Anyway to get the "traffic" working?

Jrawk
Dec 1st, 2006, 07:32 AM
First off.

I have one of these brand new sealed in a box. I bought one online, one in store. If anyone ones want its available asap for pickup at store retail price and includes a cash receipt.

Second, here is the steps I took to UNLOCK this.

Before you start, you will need the following files.
http://miojaco.mioskins.net/zip/download.php3?Fichier=unlock-c510-mioskins.zip

1. Install Activesync from the CD.
2. Run Activesync
3. Connect the Mio to the PC via USB cable. **NOTE: The unit HAS TO BE TURNED ON in order for it to be recognized by your computer.
4. Choose "Cancel" in Activesync to make it run as a guest.
5. Open the Exlore option in ActiveSync so that you can now access your GPS' files.
6. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap and rename the file MioMap.exe to MioMap2.exe
7. Copy the files MioMap.exe, MioTool.exe and Unlock-C510-Mioskins?.cab to the same directory.
8. Disconnect the GPS from the comptuer, and do a soft reset by pressing the "Reset" button on the bottom of the unit while it is powered on.
9. When it restarts, double click on MioMap and File Explorer should start.
10. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\Miomap and double click MioTool.exe (this will show a small box in the top left corner, it opens a keyboard)
11. In the same folder double click unlock-c510mioskins.cab
12. Now open the keyboard by clicking the small button in the top left.
13. With the keyboard open, click on the box that has the word "Utils" in it, then press the enter key on the keyboard and it should move on to the next screen
14. Click the small box again to hide the keyboard.
15. Select "Yes To All" and the files will install
16. Once completed, do a soft reset again by pressing the reset button on the bottom of the unit.
17. The unit will reset and bring up the desktop for Windows CE, now double click on explorer
18. Navigate to My Flash Disk\utils and delete French.lng (select it and click the red "x" at the top of the screen)
19. Navigate to My Flash Disk\miomap\miomap and delete MioMap.exe
20. Rename the MioMap2.exe to MioMap.exe
21. Do another soft reset and you're done.

This will now load into Windows CE.
To run the map software, simply double click the MioMap icon and it will load almost instantly.
Now, here is the tricky part. From what I have read, the writeups for the C310x have a different menu option to exit back to windows CE desktop. Ours don't have these options.

I found one way is to go:
Menu --> Map Look & Feel --> Settings --> More --> Device Settings
Now you will see the Windows CE Taskbar.
From here, click on the Start button, go to Favorites, choose Reset and then click Yes to restart your PPC.
This will basically reboot it like any other computer.

HOWEVER, if you are using the GPS while driving, and want to put on a movie for the passengers, you can use this method, and instead of going to "Reset", simply open the movie application and start watching it, you can the switch between the two applications by using the icon in the bottom right of the taskbar.

You will need to go back through the same steps to get back to the movie from the MioMap software.


I have yet to find a way to just shut down the application, so if anyone konws of a way, please pass it along.

I am currently working on the video playback and will do a writeup for it as soon as I have successfully gotten it to work.

Remember, this is all "AT YOUR OWN RISK".

Cheers

Jrawk
Dec 1st, 2006, 07:53 AM
Next thing I found I needed to do was clean up my desktop so here goes.

1. Run Activesync on your PC.
2. Connect your Mio (while it is on) and Choose "Cancel" in activesync to use as a Guest
3. In ActiveSync, choose Explore
4. Navigate to \Windows\Desktop and Cut any of the Application icons that no longer point to working programs.
5. Go to your root directory and create a folder called "Backup" and paste these icons there (in case you want to put it back to factory one day.
6. Go through your desktop icons and rename any that may have converted to french.
Ie. Arret = Sleep (Not a literal translation)
Clavier = Keyboard
Reglage = Tuning
Activ Sync = ActiveSync


Done!

Video to come soon!

k__dam
Dec 1st, 2006, 08:07 AM
First off.

I have one of these brand new sealed in a box. I bought one online, one in store. If anyone ones want its available asap for pickup at store retail price and includes a cash receipt.

Second, here is the steps I took to install this.

Before you start, you will need the following files.
http://miojaco.mioskins.net/zip/download.php3?Fichier=unlock-c510-mioskins.zip

1. Install Activesync from the CD.
2. Run Activesync
3. Connect the Mio to the PC via USB cable. **NOTE: The unit HAS TO BE TURNED ON in order for it to be recognized by your computer.
4. Choose "Cancel" in Activesync to make it run as a guest.
5. Open the Exlore option in ActiveSync so that you can now access your GPS' files.
6. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap and rename the file MioMap.exe to MioMap2.exe
7. Copy the files MioMap.exe, MioTool.exe and Unlock-C510-Mioskins?.cab to the same directory.
8. Disconnect the GPS from the comptuer, and do a soft reset by pressing the "Reset" button on the bottom of the unit while it is powered on.
9. When it restarts, double click on MioMap and File Explorer should start.
10. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\Miomap and double click MioTool.exe (this will show a small box in the top left corner, it opens a keyboard)
11. In the same folder double click unlock-c510mioskins.cab
12. Now open the keyboard by clicking the small button in the top left.
13. With the keyboard open, click on the box that has the word "Utils" in it, then press the enter key on the keyboard and it should move on to the next screen
14. Click the small box again to hide the keyboard.
15. Select "Yes To All" and the files will install
16. Once completed, do a soft reset again by pressing the reset button on the bottom of the unit.
17. The unit will reset and bring up the desktop for Windows CE, now double click on explorer
18. Navigate to My Flash Disk\utils and delete French.lng (select it and click the red "x" at the top of the screen)
19. Navigate to My Flash Disk\miomap\miomap and delete MioMap.exe
20. Rename the MioMap2.exe to MioMap.exe
21. Do another soft reset and you're done.

This will now load into Windows CE.
To run the map software, simply double click the MioMap icon and it will load almost instantly.
Now, here is the tricky part. From what I have read, the writeups for the C310x have a different menu option to exit back to windows CE desktop. Ours don't have these options.

I found one way is to go:
Menu --> Map Look & Feel --> Settings --> More --> Device Settings
Now you will see the Windows CE Taskbar.
From here, click on the Start button, go to Favorites, choose Reset and then click Yes to restart your PPC.
This will basically reboot it like any other computer.

I have yet to find a way to just shut down the application, so if anyone konws of a way, please pass it along.

I am currently working on the video playback and will do a writeup for it as soon as I have successfully gotten it to work.

Remember, this is all "AT YOUR OWN RISK".

Cheers


Thanks for this guide. ONe question,,what is the point of doing these steps? Is it to unlock it

Jrawk
Dec 1st, 2006, 08:21 AM
So now on to the movies!

Here are the files you will need to get:
tcpmp.arm.cabs.0.71.zip (http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/0.71/tcpmp.arm.cabs.0.71.zip)
PocketDivxEncoder (http://divx.ppccool.com/)

Stage: 1
1. 1. Run Activesync on your PC.
2. Connect your Mio (while it is on) and Choose "Cancel" in activesync to use as a Guest
3. In ActiveSync, choose Explore
4. Navigate to \My Flash Disk and create a folder called Tcpmp
5. Upload the tcpmp.arm_ce3.cab file to that folder.
6. On your Mio, navigate to that directory and doubleclick the file to install it.
7. Choose OK at the top right.
8. In your ActiveSync explorer, delete the Tcpmp folder (Which should now be empty)

Stage 2: (You should have a SD/MMC card installed for this as the movies are pretty large.

1. Install the application PocketDivXEncoder to your PC.
2. Run the application and click on the "x" when choosing the device
3. In the "file to encode" choose the movie you want to put on your Mio.
4. In the "Output file" click the folder icon and rename the file to something short (you dont have much viewable space to read filenames on the Mio)
5. Output dimensions should just be 320x240 or 320 x XXX depending on the aspect of the movie itself.
6. Click on Encode Now and wait!

** Took me about 10 minutes to convert a 50 minute file @ 700mb, which converted to 280mb.

Stage 3
Note: You have to have an SD/MMC card installed for this as the files can be large and your
1. With your explorer still open, navigate to \Storage Card
2. Copy the converted file from your computer and paste (Note, this took a LOOOONNGG time. The data tarnsfer speed through the device is slow, and doesnt look like it will work. I saw it go up to 4 bars of about 20, then go down to 0, then go up to 2 then go to 0. But leave well enough alone and it will finish at some point.
3. Open the Tcpmp application from the start menu.
4. *FIRST TIME ONLY - go to Options --> View --> Orientation --> Upside Down
5. Go to File --> Open and navigate to your \Storage Card directory and then double click the file to play.
6. Click on the play button at the top, and then double click the screen to make it full screen.

Works like a charm, nice and clear too considering the size/compression.

Sound is pretty good!

Jrawk
Dec 1st, 2006, 08:22 AM
Thanks for this guide. ONe question,,what is the point of doing these steps? Is it to unlock it

Sorry, yes, to unlock the unit.

AMD'd
Dec 1st, 2006, 09:58 AM
Jrawk;

Thanks for the guide. Based on your work, do think it would be possible to load a different software than Destinator? I am thinking if something that works with Navteq maps.

To get a similar pocket sized GPS unit (like the Garmin Nuvi 350 - Navteq or the TOMTOM One - TeleAtlas), costs considerably more than the C310S on sale. If I can convert it to Navteq and then also load maps for Europe, this would be a sweet device.

Alternatively I guess I could wait to see if the Nuvi go on sale.

Spoke to a differnet store last night that had dropped Mio from their product line - poor service/support. I have not used Staples extended warranty program but it might be worth investigating for the Mio.

k__dam
Dec 1st, 2006, 10:03 AM
after unlocking it, anyway to bring it back to factory default settings?

If yes can someeone confirm it acutally worked.

Thanks

Jrawk
Dec 1st, 2006, 10:27 AM
after unlocking it, anyway to bring it back to factory default settings?

If yes can someeone confirm it acutally worked.

Thanks

I have not tried it because I do not want to bring it back to factory settings, but a "hard reset" is supposed to restore it back to factory.

To do that, the button on the bottom has to be switched to off for 1 minute, then put back on.

Jrawk
Dec 1st, 2006, 10:38 AM
Jrawk;

Thanks for the guide. Based on your work, do think it would be possible to load a different software than Destinator? I am thinking if something that works with Navteq maps.

To get a similar pocket sized GPS unit (like the Garmin Nuvi 350 - Navteq or the TOMTOM One - TeleAtlas), costs considerably more than the C310S on sale. If I can convert it to Navteq and then also load maps for Europe, this would be a sweet device.

Alternatively I guess I could wait to see if the Nuvi go on sale.

Spoke to a differnet store last night that had dropped Mio from their product line - poor service/support. I have not used Staples extended warranty program but it might be worth investigating for the Mio.


It *should* be able to run TomTom
I have read up on this, and other people have mentioned it.
I think this is a writeup in French as to how to do it.
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=57651

THere are people here who are running Tom Tom
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=57651

You can run both applications it seems if you have it unlocked (probably not at the same time) but people were complaining about the TeleAtlas maps used by TomTom.

I actually found the maps on this thing to be pretty good so far.
And I would entirely expect new maps to become available if downloaded off the net.

As for support, it is dicey, but I'm going to chance it and see how it goes.
I dont think I'll get the staples warranty.

More on the movies to come.

Cheers

virgoan
Dec 1st, 2006, 10:41 AM
WOW, after TWO DAYS, they finally CALLED (not email) to tell me that it is OOS :evil:

k__dam
Dec 1st, 2006, 10:50 AM
WOW, after TWO DAYS, they finally CALLED (not email) to tell me that it is OOS :evil:

same here,,im really pissed riight now. This isnt right at all calling last minute.

dav1209
Dec 1st, 2006, 10:55 AM
i even more pissed.....not only they cancel my order but my $30 cash reward and $30 off $150 dividend coupon are gone...
damn STOOPLES

virgoan
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:00 AM
i even more pissed.....not only they cancel my order but my $30 cash reward and $30 off $150 dividend coupon are gone...
damn STOOPLES

I am sure u can re-use it if you place ur order by phone..

I had the same problem, but they assured me that..

Bigmouth
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:06 AM
i even more pissed.....not only they cancel my order but my $30 cash reward and $30 off $150 dividend coupon are gone...
damn STOOPLES

Maybe you can try to call their CS to ask them to add these coupons when you want to use them next time.

Jrawk
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:08 AM
Sorry to hear that they cancelled your order.

I ordered mine online 2 days ago at around 1pm and it came the next day.

I also bought one in store cuz I figured something like that might happen and I didn't want to be stuck without!

k__dam
Dec 1st, 2006, 12:45 PM
anyone knows a store that will price match staples for the mio gps?? Bestbuy will but its a web only deal which means shipping isnt free.

And for the ppl that ordered last night (Nov 31), if they get theyre gps before us (the ppl that got the oos call this morning) thats bs cuz mine was oos after 2days and during those days i was waiting for my unit, therefore losing out on the chance of ordering. sorry im jus venting lol

xciton
Dec 1st, 2006, 01:16 PM
Yes, you can run most any WinCE software on the C310s. I have successfully installed MioMap 3.2 which is actually iGo 2006 software just renamed (it's the same software that comes with the C310x model). Much better than what the Canadian unit is shipping with (Destinator 5.7).

C310s comes with 512 MB Flash, 64 MB RAM, 400 MHz, 320x240 display
C310(x) comes with 1GB/2GB Flash, 64 MB RAM, 400 MHz, 320x240 display

The low flash capacity is not a problem really, iGo will fit just fine in the 512 MB flash. You can also just pop in a SD card and not worry about it.

The downside to this whole mapping stuff for us Canadians is that iGo, Destinator, and TomTom use the same mapping company (TeleAtlas). TeleAtlas is not very good for North American content. NavTeq is much better, but you'll have to use something like Garmin Mobile XT or iGuidance to use their maps. TomTom has stated that they will be switching to NavTeq in 2007/2008.

Hope this helps.

mre
Dec 1st, 2006, 01:35 PM
Does anybody know if there's a max size for the SD card that this unit will accept?

SAABaru
Dec 1st, 2006, 01:58 PM
Now, this model in Costco is 259.99 (http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290806&whse=BCCA&topnav=&browse=)

ekoc
Dec 1st, 2006, 02:00 PM
Yes, you can run most any WinCE software on the C310s. I have successfully installed MioMap 3.2 which is actually iGo 2006 software just renamed (it's the same software that comes with the C310x model). Much better than what the Canadian unit is shipping with (Destinator 5.7).

C310s comes with 512 MB Flash, 64 MB RAM, 400 MHz, 320x240 display
C310(x) comes with 1GB/2GB Flash, 64 MB RAM, 400 MHz, 320x240 display

The low flash capacity is not a problem really, iGo will fit just fine in the 512 MB flash. You can also just pop in a SD card and not worry about it.

The downside to this whole mapping stuff for us Canadians is that iGo, Destinator, and TomTom use the same mapping company (TeleAtlas). TeleAtlas is not very good for North American content. NavTeq is much better, but you'll have to use something like Garmin Mobile XT or iGuidance to use their maps. TomTom has stated that they will be switching to NavTeq in 2007/2008.

Hope this helps.

Where to download MioMap 3.2 and how to installed it on Mio C310s?
Thanks

xciton
Dec 1st, 2006, 02:03 PM
The unit at Costco appears to be the same as the staples (C310s) as it lists 512MB Flash.

The specs list the SD card of up to 2GB. I haven't tried anything larger.

xciton
Dec 1st, 2006, 02:07 PM
Where to download MioMap 3.2 and how to installed it on Mio C310s?
Thanks

You'll have to search popular PDA sites for the download link(s). Installing it is a detailed process that I can't really be detail here. It's usually detailed elsewhere. A good knowledge of WinCE would be very beneficial.

Remember, this is basically a Windows Mobile 2003 machine with one dedicated application installed.

jerryhung
Dec 1st, 2006, 02:46 PM
Look what I got on 2nd day of usage

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/880/mioc310memoryerrorjc4.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mioc310memoryerrorjc4.jpg)

k__dam
Dec 1st, 2006, 03:04 PM
Look what I got on 2nd day of usage

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/880/mioc310memoryerrorjc4.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mioc310memoryerrorjc4.jpg)


Just curious did you unlock ur unit and added the videos? Or thats the factory default settings?

paramount
Dec 1st, 2006, 03:21 PM
Look what I got on 2nd day of usage

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/880/mioc310memoryerrorjc4.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mioc310memoryerrorjc4.jpg)

I got the same system error as yours!:(

by the way, I didn't unlock my unit.

nyquist
Dec 1st, 2006, 04:28 PM
I ordered the C310 unit two days ago and received it promptly the next day. I was quite impressed. However, I am starting to have second thoughts. I was testing the unit out and having it plot out a few routes around Kingston, ON. It certainly finds a route but it is usually not the best (ie. most direct) way to get to a destination. It seems to be suggesting an unnecesary roundabout way. (Mapquest did a much better job.)

However, what I've noticed is that when it plots a course via HWY 401, it labels it 401 Nb or Sb (which I presume to mean North bound and South bound). If that is in fact so, this would be quite an oversight considering 401 runs East and West. Did anyone else notice this on their unit or is it me? This could really mess someone up...

I am strongly considering returning the unit for a refund. Any thoughts?

Thanks!

AMD'd
Dec 1st, 2006, 04:39 PM
It certainly finds a route but it is usually not the best (ie. most direct) way to get to a destination. It seems to be suggesting an unnecesary roundabout way. (Mapquest did a much better job.)


Thanks!

Don't forget that there is a setting allowing it to pick shortest route or fastest route. Try the other setting to see if it makes a difference.

AMD'd
Dec 1st, 2006, 04:42 PM
Now, this model in Costco is 259.99 (http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290806&whse=BCCA&topnav=&browse=)

That's very interesting as they are not listing it as a sale price - and it is $10 lower than Staples' sale price.

a in yul
Dec 1st, 2006, 06:26 PM
The unit at Costco appears to be the same as the staples (C310s) as it lists 512MB Flash.

The specs list the SD card of up to 2GB. I haven't tried anything larger.

got another msg on my machine, stating that the order is now cancelled...!!

I will just order from costco, if anyone needs it and isnt a member let me know,i can make order it for u if u want.

PS: i have 3 charges from Staples to my CC, how can i make sure that the order is not charged especially cause my CC statemt date is in a few days, dont want to have to pay this only to get a credit in next months statement..

IE: where can i call to speak to staples customer service for their internet store..? Nothing on internet site nor when i call 411

PPS: staples just lost 3 orders, me, and gifts..!! thats what happens when they dont work on their outdated, non-reactive ordering system

djrobinn
Dec 1st, 2006, 06:45 PM
Hi guys:

After having used the unit for about 2 months now, I guess I'm in a pretty solid situation to give you a review.

The error message screenshot that is there on Page 10, it happens very occasionally. What I find is that once I've sync'd my 400+ outlook contacts with it (yeah really, no way of filtering), on every 4th or 5th attempt of accessing it tends to give me an error message at which point it needs to be "soft reset" just like any other WindowsCE device.

The product overall works quite well minus a few "Windows" drawbacks.

For that price, I would recommend it!

As mentioned in a previous post, it can be hacked into, you hook it up to your PC and it shows up as a PocketPC Mobile Device. I have even tried changing the voices to my own or anything, for turns, "driving carefully", etc... pretty cool and fun!

Also, I would rather buy from Costco.ca bearing in mind their very nice return/ exchange policy.

http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290806&whse=&topnav=&browse=&s=1

Peace out!
Robin

PS: Any questions about the unit, you can send me a PM.

jerryhung
Dec 1st, 2006, 06:48 PM
Just curious did you unlock ur unit and added the videos? Or thats the factory default settings?

No, it's factory settings

I am having 2nd thoughts too. U-turn thing doesn't bother me
but its accuracy seems really low, I'd be 50m away from destination and it said I have arrived??
and once I arrived at a destination, it seems to go nuts on the map not knowing where I am anymore

Can anyone try the "Pearson Airport"?
I tried Kitchener -> Pearson today, and it told me to use some weird route
It only works (401->427) if I select Terminal 1 as destination instead of "Pearson Airport"

djrobinn
Dec 1st, 2006, 06:54 PM
No, it's factory settings

I am having 2nd thoughts too. U-turn thing doesn't bother me
but its accuracy seems really low, I'd be 50m away from destination and it said I have arrived??
and once I arrived at a destination, it seems to go nuts on the map not knowing where I am anymore

Can anyone try the "Pearson Airport"?
I tried Kitchener -> Pearson today, and it told me to use some weird route
It only works (401->427) if I select Terminal 1 as destination instead of "Pearson Airport"

Dude... Pearson Airport is a mad house, I wouldn't blame the little unit for it. Everytime I go there, there's something different. I'm sure the map (which, btw, is atleast 2-3 years old) doesn't have the latest update on the construction in that area...

I'm sure every GPS has little quirks of its own... these little things don't disappoint me.

coeternity
Dec 1st, 2006, 06:56 PM
i am tempted finally. gonna go to the store now :lol:

jerryhung
Dec 1st, 2006, 06:59 PM
Dude... Pearson Airport is a mad house, I wouldn't blame the little unit for it. Everytime I go there, there's something different. I'm sure the map (which, btw, is atleast 2-3 years old) doesn't have the latest update on the construction in that area...

I'm sure every GPS has little quirks of its own... these little things don't disappoint me.

Trust me, it's way off
It told me to exit at Hwy 24 (Hespeler Rd) at Cambridge, then Hwy 8 or something, then 403, etc... NO WAY it should tell me to get off 401 until 427
consider my setting is default to "Fastest Route" as well

And the map is 2005, so 1 year old at max

More testing required...

mixpdf
Dec 1st, 2006, 07:18 PM
Hi guys:

After having used the unit for about 2 months now, I guess I'm in a pretty solid situation to give you a review.

Also, I would rather buy from Costco.ca bearing in mind their very nice return/ exchange policy.

http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290806&whse=&topnav=&browse=&s=1

Peace out!
Robin

PS: Any questions about the unit, you can send me a PM.Thanks for the review. Bought from Staples B&M today, returning tomorrow. Will buy from Costco.ca.

a in yul
Dec 1st, 2006, 07:26 PM
Thanks for the review. Bought from Staples B&M today, returning tomorrow. Will buy from Costco.ca.

EXACTLY, especially with their generous garantee and return policy,.!!!

djrobinn
Dec 1st, 2006, 08:04 PM
Trust me, it's way off
It told me to exit at Hwy 24 (Hespeler Rd) at Cambridge, then Hwy 8 or something, then 403, etc... NO WAY it should tell me to get off 401 until 427
consider my setting is default to "Fastest Route" as well

And the map is 2005, so 1 year old at max

More testing required...

2005?? Sweet, I don't think I have 2005 maps...

chrisc2
Dec 1st, 2006, 09:39 PM
Has anyone put iGuidance on this unit? I use it for my Dell Axim and I absolutely love it and I'm thinking about installing it. Has anyone done so successfully?

If I hack this unit, does it mean that it goes into Windows CE every single time it loads up and I have to manually tap on the GPS software to open?

mineown
Dec 1st, 2006, 09:57 PM
First off.

....
Cheers

Thanks, Man
It worked flawlessly!
Now I successfully unlocked my C301s and installed the TCPMP.

Two things I have noticed:
1. Once the original miomap.exe got renamed to miomap2.exe and the hack one got copied to the location, the explorer showed up automatically. But I did a soft reset anyways just in case.
2. I used the PocketDivx encoder to processed one of my avi clips, the video turned out to be upside down when I played it on the unlocked c301s. Although it doesn't matter too much if I play it in full screen. The frame rate is acutally not bad.

THanks again for your recipe.

ONe more question,
Do you know where to get a picture viewer and any other cool utils?

mineown
Dec 1st, 2006, 10:00 PM
...

If I hack this unit, does it mean that it goes into Windows CE every single time it loads up and I have to manually tap on the GPS software to open?

Yes, I believe so.
It boots up to the default desktop with a miomap icon on it.
You have to double-click the icon to load the mapping software.
Bad thing is there is no known way to exit the miomap once it is loaded without a soft reset.

djrobinn
Dec 1st, 2006, 10:28 PM
Thanks, Man
It worked flawlessly!
Now I successfully unlocked my C301s and installed the TCPMP.

Two things I have noticed:
1. Once the original miomap.exe got renamed to miomap2.exe and the hack one got copied to the location, the explorer showed up automatically. But I did a soft reset anyways just in case.
2. I used the PocketDivx encoder to processed one of my avi clips, the video turned out to be upside down when I played it on the unlocked c301s. Although it doesn't matter too much if I play it in full screen. The frame rate is acutally not bad.

THanks again for your recipe.

ONe more question,
Do you know where to get a picture viewer and any other cool utils?

Says right there:
4. *FIRST TIME ONLY - go to Options --> View --> Orientation --> Upside Down

can2000
Dec 1st, 2006, 10:37 PM
I ordered one on tue midnight and received today. Used $30 and my $23 dividend coupon, $247 after tax ;) Gonna use one of these until i find a good deal for Nuvi 660 heh.


Question: Anyway to get all streets name to display under 3D mode? Anyway to get the "traffic" working?

Already be a Staples gold member, but still dont know how to get the dividend coupon. Anyone please advise? Thanks

mineown
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:16 PM
Says right there:
4. *FIRST TIME ONLY - go to Options --> View --> Orientation --> Upside Down

Thanks.
I guess I was too excited to read through the whole steps for the video player setup.

One thing to note for others:
1. Never to enable the password protection in the unlocked mode, or you will be given a large window with no where to input your predefined password!
2. The only way to get out of the above situation is to do a hard reset. By turing off the switch for a minute I easity got the unit back to factory default.

torowl
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:44 PM
2. The only way to get out of the above situation is to do a hard reset. By turing off the switch for a minute I easity got the unit back to factory default.

Doesn't make sense to me, miomap.exe has been already replaced by hacked version, does hard reset will revert back the original version and everything will be original?

coeternity
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:45 PM
got one. this thing looks more like a toy :lol:

sliang
Dec 2nd, 2006, 12:31 AM
Hello, I picked-up a C310s today from Staples. I noticed that the box was sealed with a single sticker (Orange label with Mio logo on it). On review of the sticker, it didn't look original. There appears to be residue from an earlier sticker. It was noticeable because the residue outline is larger than the current sticker. I only wished that I had noticed this before I left the store. Has anyone else had the same issue with the packaging. I'm worried that I received an open box or refurbished item. Any help would be appreciated.

cy
Dec 2nd, 2006, 12:45 AM
Hello, I picked-up a C310s today from Staples. I noticed that the box was sealed with a single sticker (Orange label with Mio logo on it). On review of the sticker, it didn't look original. There appears to be residue from an earlier sticker. It was noticeable because the residue outline is larger than the current sticker. I only wished that I had noticed this before I left the store. Has anyone else had the same issue with the packaging. I'm worried that I received an open box or refurbished item. Any help would be appreciated.

referb is different from open box. Open box? Very possible from staples.

coeternity
Dec 2nd, 2006, 01:07 AM
Hello, I picked-up a C310s today from Staples. I noticed that the box was sealed with a single sticker (Orange label with Mio logo on it). On review of the sticker, it didn't look original. There appears to be residue from an earlier sticker. It was noticeable because the residue outline is larger than the current sticker. I only wished that I had noticed this before I left the store. Has anyone else had the same issue with the packaging. I'm worried that I received an open box or refurbished item. Any help would be appreciated.

what time did u get it? i went around 4pm and asked the guy to check the inventory of all staples in gva. none left except for those demo or open box unit

12 left online at that time

domtam
Dec 2nd, 2006, 01:54 AM
Hi guys,

I've just opened the box. It seems the car mount is only suitable for mounting it to the dashboard, but not to the windshield. Is that true?

Furthermore, the car mount consists of two pieces. One is the suction cup, and another one is disc that is permanently fixed to the dashboard. Does it mean that I cannot easily transfer this GPS from one car to another?

This is my very first GPS, and I love the functions. I really hope that there are other alternatives to mount this GPS.

Thanks
Dom

guest3721
Dec 2nd, 2006, 03:03 AM
I got the suction cup to stick to the winshield after several tries. I love this GPS unit also.

sliang
Dec 2nd, 2006, 04:08 AM
what time did u get it? i went around 4pm and asked the guy to check the inventory of all staples in gva. none left except for those demo or open box unit

12 left online at that time

It was a phone-in order through their toll free line. I had it delivered to a store instead of home delivery (more convenient for my schedule). Usually in these cases they should ship from a warehouse (not store stock). It should still, however, be brand new.

cy
Dec 2nd, 2006, 05:21 AM
Hi guys,

I've just opened the box. It seems the car mount is only suitable for mounting it to the dashboard, but not to the windshield. Is that true?

Furthermore, the car mount consists of two pieces. One is the suction cup, and another one is disc that is permanently fixed to the dashboard. Does it mean that I cannot easily transfer this GPS from one car to another?

This is my very first GPS, and I love the functions. I really hope that there are other alternatives to mount this GPS.

Thanks
Dom

Welcome to RFD. :)

You have answered your question yourself - This GPS comes with 2 pieces, 1 is the suction cup, the other one is the piece on the bottom that sticks to the dash, and the suction cup suck onto the piece. If you want to stick to the windshield, simple have the suction cup suck onto the windshield without the mounting piece on the dash. The mounting piece should stick to the dash permanently, and remember to clean the dash before sticking it on for the best result.

When transfer the unit from 1 car to another, simply take out the suction piece, and stick it into another car's windshield.

Hope this helps

cy
Dec 2nd, 2006, 05:26 AM
Already be a Staples gold member, but still dont know how to get the dividend coupon. Anyone please advise? Thanks


In order to become a gold member, you would have spent $1000 in the first year NON computers purchase. Then afterward I believe you will need to make a mininum purchase of $250/quarter in order to recive your coupon, and it does count everything including computers after you've made the gold. And the return is 5% of your total purchase? I usually max out my dividend coupon @ $30 but this time I only got $23 :(

cy
Dec 2nd, 2006, 05:30 AM
i even more pissed.....not only they cancel my order but my $30 cash reward and $30 off $150 dividend coupon are gone...
damn STOOPLES

Give their headoffice a call and have them send you a new one. It worked for me ;) At least you'll have a physical coupon in hand instead of having to tell the next rep the story of OOS

aqn99
Dec 2nd, 2006, 06:18 AM
Has anyone put iGuidance on this unit? I use it for my Dell Axim and I absolutely love it and I'm thinking about installing it. Has anyone done so successfully?

If I hack this unit, does it mean that it goes into Windows CE every single time it loads up and I have to manually tap on the GPS software to open?

I got iGuidance V3 working on it, follow the instructions here (http://johntam.com/tiki-index.php?page=Mio+c310x+GPS#Hack_the_Mio_c310x). I used the doclist.dll from "Pack Dll specifiques"
The Sirf III GPS chip on this unit is very good, picks up more satellites than my Nuvi.

Bigmouth
Dec 2nd, 2006, 08:02 AM
Hello, I picked-up a C310s today from Staples. I noticed that the box was sealed with a single sticker (Orange label with Mio logo on it). On review of the sticker, it didn't look original. There appears to be residue from an earlier sticker. It was noticeable because the residue outline is larger than the current sticker. I only wished that I had noticed this before I left the store. Has anyone else had the same issue with the packaging. I'm worried that I received an open box or refurbished item. Any help would be appreciated.

I ordered my unit online and had similiar experience. It's definitely a returned unit because there have been several addresses already input in the GPS. But as long as it works fine for me, I won't really mind this is an open box item.

Bigmouth
Dec 2nd, 2006, 08:07 AM
I got the suction cup to stick to the winshield after several tries. I love this GPS unit also.

Yes, the suction cup works fine on windshields but its size and mechanism make the operation a bit awkward, compare the Garmin Streetpilot I3.

Still debating which one to keep, though I lean to the C310s a bit more.

cy
Dec 2nd, 2006, 08:23 AM
Yes, the suction cup works fine on windshields but its size and mechanism make the operation a bit awkward, compare the Garmin Streetpilot I3.

Still debating which one to keep, though I lean to the C310s a bit more.

Put it this way: The i3 is super small, C310 is how the "normal" GPS unit should be ;)

I am using the C310 now, until the nuvi drops in price :P Looks and works awesome so far!

Only complain would be the ability to be able to display street name with the 3D maps.

SQuiDLy
Dec 2nd, 2006, 08:26 AM
This seem to be a nice unit!

mineown
Dec 2nd, 2006, 08:57 AM
Doesn't make sense to me, miomap.exe has been already replaced by hacked version, does hard reset will revert back the original version and everything will be original?

So you are having the same problem I had, didn't read through the instructions. :)


6. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap and rename the file MioMap.exe to MioMap2.exe
7. Copy the files MioMap.exe, MioTool.exe and Unlock-C510-Mioskins?.cab to the same directory.
......
19. Navigate to My Flash Disk\miomap\miomap and delete MioMap.exe
20. Rename the MioMap2.exe to MioMap.exe

chrisc2
Dec 2nd, 2006, 09:41 AM
Does anyone know if after modding, is it possible to restore the unit to its factory settings? Also, do the side buttons work after hacking the unit? I want to install iGuidance but it's a present for my parents so I'm a bit worried it might get too complicated if I modify the settings straight out of the box..

domtam
Dec 2nd, 2006, 11:11 AM
I got the suction cup to stick to the winshield after several tries. I love this GPS unit also.

Thanks for your reply!

Just curious... you mentioned "after several tries". Is it difficult to do you so?

More importantly, will it fall off easily if I stick it the suction cup to the windshield?

Thanks!
Dom

aqn99
Dec 2nd, 2006, 11:39 AM
Does anyone know if after modding, is it possible to restore the unit to its factory settings? Also, do the side buttons work after hacking the unit? I want to install iGuidance but it's a present for my parents so I'm a bit worried it might get too complicated if I modify the settings straight out of the box..

To do a factory reset you simply flick a switch on the bottom of the unit. Iguidance works, but not 100% functional, the buttons on the side cannot be activated and it freezes whenever you bring up the route list so there's no avoid or detour option and you have to do a soft reset and sometimes even a factory reset. I also installed Tomtom6 and so far no problems.

TurboTronix
Dec 2nd, 2006, 11:57 AM
Thanks for your reply!

Just curious... you mentioned "after several tries". Is it difficult to do you so?

More importantly, will it fall off easily if I stick it the suction cup to the windshield?

Thanks!
Dom


Mine worked from the first try (holds tight on to the window), so far so good, just sent my parents alone to test it out so we'll see what they have to say (they are new to this technology). I went on a tour with my mom yesterday to teach her how to use it (since it was bought for her birthday).

So I am very impressed so far, I have to get a 1gb or 2gb SD and hack it (mom wants video as well talk about quick spoildness) :)

guest3721
Dec 2nd, 2006, 11:58 AM
Thanks for your reply!

Just curious... you mentioned "after several tries". Is it difficult to do you so?

More importantly, will it fall off easily if I stick it the suction cup to the windshield?

Thanks!
Dom

Acually the first few times I tried it was difficult, I don't know whether it was my winshield being extremely cold or what. After driving for a while and adding a bit of moisture to the suction cup it stuck on fine. Remember there is that little lever on the cup that you have to pull to make it stick. It seems to stick fine now because I left it on overnight and it's still there :) Good luck.

xciton
Dec 2nd, 2006, 12:47 PM
To do a factory reset you simply flick a switch on the bottom of the unit. Iguidance works, but not 100% functional, the buttons on the side cannot be activated and it freezes whenever you bring up the route list so there's no avoid or detour option and you have to do a soft reset and sometimes even a factory reset. I also installed Tomtom6 and so far no problems.

I think you'll find that MioMap 3.2 is a better choice than iGuanance in terms of functionality and visual appeal. MioMap 3.2 is actually iGo just renamed. Both will have identical maps as they use the same map file.

Take a look at the screen shots and video (blog entry November 13th) at http://mioscripting.blogspot.com/ This is with MioMap/iGo and new customized layout/scripts. There is some good eye candy there.

EDIT: Actually, I forgot one thing about iGuidance. It does have much better maps (NavTeq) than either MioMap, iGo, Destinator,TomTom (TeleAtlas) have for North America.

mineown
Dec 2nd, 2006, 01:58 PM
I think you'll find that MioMap 3.2 is a better choice than iGuanance in terms of functionality and visual appeal. MioMap 3.2 is actually iGo just renamed. Both will have identical maps as they use the same map file.

Take a look at the screen shots and video (blog entry November 13th) at http://mioscripting.blogspot.com/ This is with MioMap/iGo and new customized layout/scripts. There is some good eye candy there.

EDIT: Actually, I forgot one thing about iGuidance. It does have much better maps (NavTeq) than either MioMap, iGo, Destinator,TomTom (TeleAtlas) have for North America.

How can we upgrade to MioMap 3.2 then?

mineown
Dec 2nd, 2006, 02:00 PM
After installing a sweet iTaskManager from http://www001.upp.so-net.ne.jp/ishi/wince/itaskmgr/index.html.
You can close miomap via it and go back to windows CE desktop.

Jrawk
Dec 2nd, 2006, 03:17 PM
After installing a sweet iTaskManager from http://www001.upp.so-net.ne.jp/ishi/wince/itaskmgr/index.html.
You can close miomap via it and go back to windows CE desktop.

How did you install this?

coeternity
Dec 2nd, 2006, 04:35 PM
bought open box for $249 yst but dont really like it so its back at stooples now if u guys looking for one. ubc stooples

TurboTronix
Dec 2nd, 2006, 06:50 PM
Do they have a user interface like the original one but with an extra button for TCPMP (like the MP3 button)?

mineown
Dec 2nd, 2006, 08:29 PM
How did you install this?

Like what you did for the tcpmp.
Async the ARM cab file unzipped from the zip file to your flash or storage card on the unit.
Double click on the cap via your unit's explorer.

k__dam
Dec 3rd, 2006, 01:24 AM
staples online has more instock,,i just ordered mine but im expecting an oos call/email soon lol anyways im wondering y i havent gotten the confirmation email yet. The last time i ordered online it sent me one rite away:| hmm how long did it take you guys from ordering and receiving the confirmation email??

a in yul
Dec 3rd, 2006, 03:31 AM
staples online has more instock,,i just ordered mine but im expecting an oos call/email soon lol anyways im wondering y i havent gotten the confirmation email yet. The last time i ordered online it sent me one rite away:| hmm how long did it take you guys from ordering and receiving the confirmation email??


i wish you luck. i ordered 3 times and was cancelled 3 times, finally gave up and ordered via costco.

maybe its just me, who knows, no stock in montreal..?

ekoc
Dec 3rd, 2006, 03:39 AM
does anyone know a link to download MioMap 3.2?
Thanks

kamran
Dec 3rd, 2006, 08:22 AM
no stock in Brampton as well, for the no hassle returns I paid the extra $20 and ordered from costco.

i wish you luck. i ordered 3 times and was cancelled 3 times, finally gave up and ordered via costco.

quangong
Dec 3rd, 2006, 08:40 AM
I returned an unopen one at the Staples at McCowan and Sheppard yesterday. There is nothing wrong with it, I just wanted to get it from Costco due to their better warranty.

Jrawk
Dec 3rd, 2006, 09:05 AM
Like what you did for the tcpmp.
Async the ARM cab file unzipped from the zip file to your flash or storage card on the unit.
Double click on the cap via your unit's explorer.

Which cab file was it?

punchy_head
Dec 3rd, 2006, 09:48 AM
Staples Ottawa Ogilvie Rd. has 3 returned units in stock.

Staples Orleans 10th Line Rd. has 1 returned unit in stock.

Both stores offered me 10% off.

I passed since I want a new unit.

Interestingly both stores told me that more were on the way and that the price is valid until the end of December.

Punchy

a in yul
Dec 3rd, 2006, 10:01 AM
Staples Ottawa Ogilvie Rd. has 3 returned units in stock.

Staples Orleans 10th Line Rd. has 1 returned unit in stock.

Both stores offered me 10% off.

I passed since I want a new unit.

Interestingly both stores told me that more were on the way and that the price is valid until the end of December.

Punchy


cant seem to find the 1800 number to cancel the order, can someone pass it along to me please..? thx

funny, staples in the states also has this OOS..!!

http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StaplesProductDisplay?zipCode=90210&PID=1225267&ddkey=StaplesBeFree&jspStoreDir=Staples&errorUrl=zipcode&langId=-1&ts=1165158737536&SID=sduidp0t&AID=10427430&partNumber=666810&storeId=10001&ddkey=StaplesZipCodeAdd

Bigmouth
Dec 3rd, 2006, 10:15 AM
cant seem to find the 1800 number to cancel the order, can someone pass it along to me please..? thx

1-877-360-8500

a in yul
Dec 3rd, 2006, 10:26 AM
1-877-360-8500

thx, on hold with em right now..;and got verbal confirmation that orders have been cancelled, curious though, why website order history is NOT up to date.

rambokid
Dec 3rd, 2006, 11:05 AM
Yes, the suction cup works fine on windshields but its size and mechanism make the operation a bit awkward, compare the Garmin Streetpilot I3.

Still debating which one to keep, though I lean to the C310s a bit more.I just drop the i3 in the cupholder :D , perfect fit on two cars. One more weekend before the 14 days TS refund period, still no C310 in stock :mad:.

torowl
Dec 3rd, 2006, 11:39 AM
i wish you luck. i ordered 3 times and was cancelled 3 times, finally gave up and ordered via costco.

maybe its just me, who knows, no stock in montreal..?

I have been cancelled 2 times.

I noticed they "back stock" at 1:30am, and place the order right away. But get cancellation email this morning.

I've been tricked.

etcbq
Dec 3rd, 2006, 12:51 PM
Does anyone know if this is available at Costco B&M?

coeternity
Dec 3rd, 2006, 12:57 PM
Does anyone know if this is available at Costco B&M?

i called one in richmond, they said no

aragingbull
Dec 3rd, 2006, 02:26 PM
ordered 1 last night..., received a email this morning as order is cancelled. funny thing is that i can add it to the cart again. i called the toll free # and the lady said their system was down. can't check till later today. i'm tired of this and i'm just gonna order it from costco instead.

UrbanPoet
Dec 3rd, 2006, 02:27 PM
Do u need a membership or something for GPS?

a in yul
Dec 3rd, 2006, 09:56 PM
Do u need a membership or something for GPS?

no membership or subscription needed.

sportmiester
Dec 3rd, 2006, 10:53 PM
Does anyone know if this is available at Costco B&M?

Didn't see any in store when I was there today (Langford location). Tried to flag someone down but it was a zoo there with Christmas shoppers. Sorry couldn't find out more.

jochooi
Dec 3rd, 2006, 11:33 PM
Here is my 2 cents on the Mio C310 and Garmin i3 (got both on recent sales posted on this forum).

Hardware wise Mio is far superior - larger/touch screen, built-in rechargeable battery, larger internal memory, windows CE allows many possibilities/hacks.

The GPS software for Mio is inferior to Garmin - larger margin of error when tracking and also absurd directions suggested. Also unlike Windows CE, the Garmin doesn't (havent for me yet anyways) crash!

Wouldn't it be great to have it both ways? but life is not like that:)

torowl
Dec 4th, 2006, 12:46 AM
My 2c:

1. Computer will never beat human brain. I’ve never expect GPS can calculate the best route. Actually, the best route maybe only few minutes faster than GPS route, it is not big deal. As long as when I get lost, GPS can take me back, that should be OK.

2. I used Garmin i3 for a week, doesn’t seem Garmin can calculate the best route. E.g. I’m in Yonge/Hwy7, I went to Spadina rd on Sat morning, Garmin suggest I take Bayview, then 401, then Avenue Rd. Actually this is not the fast route. I took Yonge, then 401, and took Allen Rd, anyway.

3. Another example is when I take Hwy 7 home, Garmin tell me “keep left on 7”, and on 300m before right turn, tell me “right turn in 300m”. Come on, it is telling me change 3 lines in 300m at 80 speed road in rush hour. I can do that, but my wife can not.

I have return Garmin and ordered Moi at Costco. I’m still waiting for delivery. I’ve not heard any complain about C310x, maybe C310x using Miomap and C310 doesn’t. Maybe install Miomap on C310 can make it better.

mre
Dec 4th, 2006, 07:30 AM
I bought this because it seems to be the most flexible device for the price, given the multitude of hacks that are out there. I haven't received it yet, but I'm looking forward to comparing the routing of Miomap, TomTom, and iGuidance on this device.

a in yul
Dec 4th, 2006, 07:40 AM
I bought this because it seems to be the most flexible device for the price, given the multitude of hacks that are out there. I haven't received it yet, but I'm looking forward to comparing the routing of Miomap, TomTom, and iGuidance on this device.

once u do compare the diff maps available. please do let us know your opinion so that those of us that are not as comfy tech wise can limit our experience to doing the hack once at the risk of causing more damage if we try diff hacks with diff OS mapwise..!

Thx in advance,
a.

mineown
Dec 4th, 2006, 09:55 AM
Which cab file was it?

itaskmgr.ARM.CAB

The processor in the unit is ARM series

TurboTronix
Dec 4th, 2006, 10:02 AM
Well I got the Navigator_release_22 interface (allows you to have a nice startup menu where you have iconed buttons for various things (mine has a button for video, music, miomap, tomtom and soon photo viewer software).

What I wanted to know is how do I get out of miomap software? Like there is no exit button once you get into the gps software...

Also, will the palm tomtom USA&Canada maps be compatible? The only one's I found on the net :)

And does any one know a nice photo viewing software for Win CE?

mikesxf
Dec 4th, 2006, 11:34 AM
seemed a nice device
ordered mine at costco.ca,

thanks for all the info

Jrawk
Dec 4th, 2006, 12:19 PM
itaskmgr.ARM.CAB

The processor in the unit is ARM series


Ahh, that makes sense.

Thanks!

Jrawk
Dec 4th, 2006, 12:20 PM
Well I got the Navigator_release_22 interface (allows you to have a nice startup menu where you have iconed buttons for various things (mine has a button for video, music, miomap, tomtom and soon photo viewer software).

What I wanted to know is how do I get out of miomap software? Like there is no exit button once you get into the gps software...

Also, will the palm tomtom USA&Canada maps be compatible? The only one's I found on the net :)

And does any one know a nice photo viewing software for Win CE?


I'll have a guide put up here soon enough on how to install itaskmanager so you can kill the process.

By design, the software is not made to be exited.
I did put up a workaround as to how to get to the windows screen, and then reset the unit, check back a few pages.

chris ng
Dec 4th, 2006, 01:13 PM
Tried a few diffrent things with the unit over the weekend..

the american 310x comes loaded with miomap 3.2 (essentially Igo 2006) rather than destinator software on the canadian 310s.. miomap 3.2 installs and works properly with the 310s (with some slight modifications).. The software is much nicer to look at and use than the destinator software.. however the canadian TeleAtlas maps for the mio (both software use the same maps) are quite outdated (2005 version).. I live in calgary and there are alot of roads not in the maps.. I know that TeleAtlas has updated maps that cover these missing areas, Mio just hasn't release any in their format yet.. The MioMaps 3.2 software does have the ability to exit the software to take you back to the wince desktop..

I managed to installl Iguidance 3.0 on this unit .. this package utilizes Navtech maps which some people concider as being much more accurate than the TeleAtlas maps .. the Navtech maps that came with iguidance were from late 2006.. they covered alot of new areas and were much more complete.. The software however isn't as nice and the interface isn't as friendly as Miomap or Destinator .. It will also lock up the Mio requiring soft reset when using some functions.. I'm playing around to see if I can fix this (trying diffrent .dll).. the maps iguidance creates are quite a bit larger and will require you to load and unload maps depending on destination more often than the other software

I am going to give TomTom 6 a try on this unit next.. it apperently works on the mio as well..this utilizes the Teleatlas maps (although in a diffrent format) as Miomap/destinator .. However these maps are updated (2006) .. I've heard some people prefer the miomap and destinator software over TomTom, However, if the program is more stable than iguidance and has a nicer interface, than It may be a good compromise to Miomap/Destinator to have good updated maps on your unit..

xinix
Dec 4th, 2006, 01:21 PM
Tried a few diffrent things with the unit over the weekend..

the american 310x comes loaded with miomap 3.2 (essentially Igo 2006) rather than destinator software on the canadian 310s.. miomap 3.2 installs and works properly with the 310s (with some slight modifications).. The software is much nicer to look at and use than the destinator software.. however the canadian TeleAtlas maps for the mio (both software use the same maps) are quite outdated (2005 version).. I live in calgary and there are alot of roads not in the maps.. I know that TeleAtlas has updated maps that cover these missing areas, Mio just hasn't release any in their format yet.. The MioMaps 3.2 software does have the ability to exit the software to take you back to the wince desktop..

I managed to installl Iguidance 3.0 on this unit .. this package utilizes Navtech maps which some people concider as being much more accurate than the TeleAtlas maps .. the Navtech maps that came with iguidance were from late 2006.. they covered alot of new areas and were much more complete.. The software however isn't as nice and the interface isn't as friendly as Miomap or Destinator .. It will also lock up the Mio requiring soft reset when using some functions.. I'm playing around to see if I can fix this (trying diffrent .dll).. the maps iguidance creates are quite a bit larger and will require you to load and unload maps depending on destination more often than the other software

I am going to give TomTom 6 a try on this unit next.. it apperently works on the mio as well..this utilizes the Teleatlas maps (although in a diffrent format) as Miomap/destinator .. However these maps are updated (2006) .. I've heard some people prefer the miomap and destinator software over TomTom, However, if the program is more stable than iguidance and has a nicer interface, than It may be a good compromise to Miomap/Destinator to have good updated maps on your unit..

Sounds like you're an expert on this. This is exactly what we need. Now, do you know where we can download miomap 3.2? Tried google but wasn't successful. Thanks.

rf134a
Dec 4th, 2006, 02:13 PM
There will be a unit going back to Staples Edmonton Centre by Wednesday. I picked up a 310x from Staples Jantzen Beach.

As far as ram goes, a previous poster is correct in that the 310s is only 512MB of rom. From the wiki on these units:

Space writes: From what I've seen so far it looks like the 2GB model has a part number ending in 0026, whereas the one ending in 0106 is 1GB.
sumrtym writes: Mine is 0025 and is 1GB.
jeffkhlam writes: Mine ending is 0022, it's a 1gb model... and it does come with ac adapter.
Snowbdr writes:
I do not want to be the final word on this, but when I spoke to Mio Customer Service about a week ago (when trying to understand the difference between the 310 and 310x), they told me that the upgraded iGo software was able to do more with less memory... that is that it took less to store maps, POI's, and routing info with the iGo software. Therefore, the 310x would come with less memory. However, there were 310's that had the extra memory already in hand, and they simply installed the new software. As mentioned, there is no required hardware change between the two, so a unit intended to be a 310 could be turned into a 310x, and would have the extra memory. If you purchase a unit that was manufactured with the sole intention of being a 310x, then I think that you will get the lesser memory. I would think that the AC charger may be a similar "carryover." Coupling this info with what some people are reporting, I think that the 1GB Free sticker says that you got 1GB more than the 310x generally has, but it is the same as what the 310 used to come with. The rep even mentioned this sticker when we spoke.
mmarcuse writes:
Some comparisons on the extra 1GB version, as my family got two - one with the extra GB sticker, one without.

-Model numbers on the units are different. The extra gig is model C310 2X, the one without the extra is the C310 X.
-UPC's are the same for both types.
-Mio Transfer shows 35MB free on the normal version. The stickered has 1,000MB free (as promised).
-Igo and maps versions are the same (3.2 Aug for Igo)
-ROM versions are different, the non extra GB version has a slightly higher ROM version.
-The screen on the non-extra GB unit is brighter and slightly sharper than the one with the extra GB. On full brightness, the extra GB version still isn't as crisp as the non-extra GB version on half-bright. But if they weren't side by side I probably wouldn't notice the difference.


Now we know that any unit with a P/N ending in 007 has 512MB.
So:
0007: 512MB
0026: 2GB
0025: 1GB
0022: 1GB

mre
Dec 4th, 2006, 03:24 PM
Tried a few diffrent things with the unit over the weekend..

the american 310x comes loaded with miomap 3.2 (essentially Igo 2006) rather than destinator software on the canadian 310s.. miomap 3.2 installs and works properly with the 310s (with some slight modifications).. The software is much nicer to look at and use than the destinator software.. however the canadian TeleAtlas maps for the mio (both software use the same maps) are quite outdated (2005 version).. I live in calgary and there are alot of roads not in the maps.. I know that TeleAtlas has updated maps that cover these missing areas, Mio just hasn't release any in their format yet.. The MioMaps 3.2 software does have the ability to exit the software to take you back to the wince desktop..

I managed to installl Iguidance 3.0 on this unit .. this package utilizes Navtech maps which some people concider as being much more accurate than the TeleAtlas maps .. the Navtech maps that came with iguidance were from late 2006.. they covered alot of new areas and were much more complete.. The software however isn't as nice and the interface isn't as friendly as Miomap or Destinator .. It will also lock up the Mio requiring soft reset when using some functions.. I'm playing around to see if I can fix this (trying diffrent .dll).. the maps iguidance creates are quite a bit larger and will require you to load and unload maps depending on destination more often than the other software

I am going to give TomTom 6 a try on this unit next.. it apperently works on the mio as well..this utilizes the Teleatlas maps (although in a diffrent format) as Miomap/destinator .. However these maps are updated (2006) .. I've heard some people prefer the miomap and destinator software over TomTom, However, if the program is more stable than iguidance and has a nicer interface, than It may be a good compromise to Miomap/Destinator to have good updated maps on your unit..

Since you've played around a lot with this unit, do you see the 512MB of ROM as a major limitation compared to the US version that has the 1GB? Can you outline the procedure you used to install Miomap 3.2 on the device, or point us to a page that gives the details?

Jrawk
Dec 4th, 2006, 03:46 PM
There will be a unit going back to Staples Edmonton Centre by Wednesday. I picked up a 310x from Staples Jantzen Beach.

As far as ram goes, a previous poster is correct in that the 310s is only 512MB of rom. From the wiki on these units:



Now we know that any unit with a P/N ending in 007 has 512MB.
So:
0007: 512MB
0026: 2GB
0025: 1GB
0022: 1GB

Does it really matter how much ram it has?

Do you need more than 512 to fit all of the maps you could possibly use in a 3 month period?

I ask only because, I do drive a lot, but I dont plan on driving from the east coast of Canada to the west coast and then down through the lower 48 states and back up again which *might* actually require me to put all of those maps onto the ram.

And if thats the case, can't you just put the rest on an SD card?

chrisc2
Dec 4th, 2006, 05:36 PM
Tried a few diffrent things with the unit over the weekend..

the american 310x comes loaded with miomap 3.2 (essentially Igo 2006) rather than destinator software on the canadian 310s.. miomap 3.2 installs and works properly with the 310s (with some slight modifications).. The software is much nicer to look at and use than the destinator software.. however the canadian TeleAtlas maps for the mio (both software use the same maps) are quite outdated (2005 version).. I live in calgary and there are alot of roads not in the maps.. I know that TeleAtlas has updated maps that cover these missing areas, Mio just hasn't release any in their format yet.. The MioMaps 3.2 software does have the ability to exit the software to take you back to the wince desktop..

I managed to installl Iguidance 3.0 on this unit .. this package utilizes Navtech maps which some people concider as being much more accurate than the TeleAtlas maps .. the Navtech maps that came with iguidance were from late 2006.. they covered alot of new areas and were much more complete.. The software however isn't as nice and the interface isn't as friendly as Miomap or Destinator .. It will also lock up the Mio requiring soft reset when using some functions.. I'm playing around to see if I can fix this (trying diffrent .dll).. the maps iguidance creates are quite a bit larger and will require you to load and unload maps depending on destination more often than the other software

I am going to give TomTom 6 a try on this unit next.. it apperently works on the mio as well..this utilizes the Teleatlas maps (although in a diffrent format) as Miomap/destinator .. However these maps are updated (2006) .. I've heard some people prefer the miomap and destinator software over TomTom, However, if the program is more stable than iguidance and has a nicer interface, than It may be a good compromise to Miomap/Destinator to have good updated maps on your unit..

You definitely seem like an expert on this. I was debating on whether or not to try iGuidance, but considering it crashes the unit, I think I better not. When you used MioMaps, do you remember if you were able to use the side buttons (volume, menu)? Also, did the GPS program automatically start when you turned on the unit (or can you make it do this)? I'm considering putting that on instead of Destinator. I absolutely hate the way Destinator labels streets and the "night mode" is hideous... I can't believe someone thought fuscia on black would be pleasant to look at.

I also bought the Garmin i3 and I agree that the software on the i3 is faaaaar superior to this. I drove home today and it kept telling me to go north, make a U-turn and make several turns to get downtown whereas Garmin & iGuidance both tell me to simply take Avenue Road.

Oh - and has anyone noticed that the the Mio won't display "Yonge St" and instead puts "118" there?

chris ng
Dec 4th, 2006, 07:34 PM
The only reason the american c310 units have more onboard flash memory is because of the size of the american maps.. There are far more cities and states that require detailed maps than in canada.. Is 512meg sufficient on the canadian mio's? well sorta .. the entire canadian map and mio software takes up only about 60 megs of the available memory .. this leaves plenty of space for you to load other little programs.. now, you obviously will not be able to load the entire american map into flash memory, but you can definitely load them onto a 1gig SD card.. It would be nice to have a bit more flash memory onboard, however I don't see it as a deal breaker since you are able to utilize SD cards in the unit...

MioMap 3.2 - the installation of Miomap 3.2 onto your c310s requires a few things .. #1, your Mio will have to be unlocked .. I won't bother going into detail on how to do this, since it's posted in this thread and several other places already... You will need a few specific .DLL files loaded into the mio as well as 1 little utility so that the touchscreen works correctly.. it also needs the configuration modified.. It's actually an easy process.. If demand is there I can definitely create a little .zip package that includes the required .DLL's, utility and modified configuration file so that all you need to do is copy the files over to your mio .. I'm not quite sure on the legalities of distributing the actual Miomap program along with the package, I'll have to look into it.. I don't see a problem since I don't belive it was sold as a stand alone software by Mio

There was a question regarding if the side buttons worked with miomap 3.2 .. they definitely do work, power button, menu button and volume buttons all work.. If you launch MioMap from the wince desktop and then power down the Mio, it will go right back to where you left off in miomap when you power back up...

The iguidance lock up bug isn't that bad at all.. It locks up if you plan a route and then want to look at the itinerary afterwards .. as I never really do this, it's just a little issue to me.. I will be trying diffrent .dll's to see if there is one that gets around this little bug...

More to come...

mineown
Dec 4th, 2006, 08:55 PM
If demand is there I can definitely create a little .zip package that includes the required .DLL's, utility and modified configuration file so that all you need to do is copy the files over to your mio .
More to come...

Please, we are waiting ...

ekoc
Dec 4th, 2006, 09:26 PM
T
...
If demand is there I can definitely create a little .zip package that includes the required .DLL's, utility and modified configuration file so that all you need to do is copy the files over to your mio
...
More to come...

Add me in the watiing list

can2000
Dec 4th, 2006, 09:41 PM
In order to become a gold member, you would have spent $1000 in the first year NON computers purchase. Then afterward I believe you will need to make a mininum purchase of $250/quarter in order to recive your coupon, and it does count everything including computers after you've made the gold. And the return is 5% of your total purchase? I usually max out my dividend coupon @ $30 but this time I only got $23 :(

Thanks for your reply.
Can the dividend $ be accumulated? Just found out I didn't use any for previous quarters. Thanks

ruthless29
Dec 4th, 2006, 10:28 PM
wow... i want to get my hands on this. its sold out in both costco and staples, whats my next bet?

thanks

mre
Dec 4th, 2006, 10:32 PM
MioMap 3.2 - the installation of Miomap 3.2 onto your c310s requires a few things .. #1, your Mio will have to be unlocked .. I won't bother going into detail on how to do this, since it's posted in this thread and several other places already... You will need a few specific .DLL files loaded into the mio as well as 1 little utility so that the touchscreen works correctly.. it also needs the configuration modified.. It's actually an easy process.. If demand is there I can definitely create a little .zip package that includes the required .DLL's, utility and modified configuration file so that all you need to do is copy the files over to your mio .. I'm not quite sure on the legalities of distributing the actual Miomap program along with the package, I'll have to look into it.. I don't see a problem since I don't belive it was sold as a stand alone software by Mio


Thanks for the response, it was really helpful. I would love a more detailed step by step as others have posted, if you can find the time to put it together along with the dlls. From what I hear the Miomap 3.2 software is way better than the Destinator software, and in fact, was one of the main reasons I considered the U.S. version. I've learned a lot reading the various forums but I haven't seen too much about upgrading to Miomap 3.2 because most countries, with the exception of Canada, already have the software pre-installed.

TurboTronix
Dec 4th, 2006, 11:39 PM
After several attempts I could not get TomTom or iGuidance to work on my device. I did not try MioMap 3.2, I don't even know how to install it...

Also, anyone knows a good place to get the USA maps, are they included in the C310 (mainly interested in the areas around NewYork)?

jochooi
Dec 5th, 2006, 12:24 AM
OK apparently these guys got TomTom6 to work on the 310x - page down to the bottom - have to modify the device registry or something first.

http://johntam.com/tiki-index.php?page=Mio+c310x+GPS

The destinator DVD comes with complete north america directory - just need some extra SD memory.

chris ng
Dec 5th, 2006, 12:44 AM
Turbotronix: USA maps are included with your c310 and destinator software.. you should have recieved 2 discs with your unit.. one of these discs is labeled Miomap D1.0 .. install this cd and you will get acess to the US maps for destinator

MioMap 3.2: okay.. I've put together a .rar file for miomap 3.2 .. this includes the software itself along with the correct .DLL's, modifications and programs to get it running.. I did NOT include any maps in this archive, it would have made the file too large .. you CAN download the Canadian map from

http://www.my-guide.de/foto/download/Canada.fbl

be aware, this is a 50 meg file on a slow server...

Install instructions:

1) extract the .rar file into a directory on your computer
2) create a directory on your MIO under \my flash disk\
3) copy all the files and directories from the .rar into the directory you just created on your MIO
4) Click on the setup.exe file in the directory .. this will install MioMap software
5) After install, find and doubleclick the GAPI_for_HPC_v307.CAB file.. This will install GAPI on your MIO desktop
6) To launch Miomap correctly, run GAPI SETUP first .. if you do not run GAPI, the touchscreen will not work correctly and you will have to soft-reset..
7) double click GAPI Setup, remove all checkmarks from the options except "Framebuffer Cache".. Click on "Set Device" box .. choose "Mio C210,CE 4.2, 320x240" and click on "Set selected device" ... once ready to run MioMap, change Display orientation from "270" to "0" , then click on save&exit
8) Screen will rotate, don't be alarmed .. launch Miomap ..screen rotates back to proper rotation..

I know this sounds quite complex, but you only really have to do it once ..GAPI is required to make sure the touchscreen is properly aligned and you only have to worry about the "Display orientation" option whenever you launch MioMap ...

download the .rar file here..
this link will be up for only a short while.. Miomap software comes preloaded on american MIO c310's.. I treat this as an upgrade to the canadian 310's.. I am under the assumption you can not purchase miomap seperately and so I'm not sure if this falls under any sort of copyright issues...

http://members.shaw.ca/sumpy/miomap%20c310.rar

pcpro
Dec 5th, 2006, 12:47 AM
cool..

chrisc2
Dec 5th, 2006, 01:40 AM
Turbotronix: USA maps are included with your c310 and destinator software.. you should have recieved 2 discs with your unit.. one of these discs is labeled Miomap D1.0 .. install this cd and you will get acess to the US maps for destinator

MioMap 3.2: okay.. I've put together a .rar file for miomap 3.2 .. this includes the software itself along with the correct .DLL's, modifications and programs to get it running.. I did NOT include any maps in this archive, it would have made the file too large .. you CAN download the Canadian map from

http://www.my-guide.de/foto/download/Canada.fbl

be aware, this is a 50 meg file on a slow server...

Install instructions:

1) extract the .rar file into a directory on your computer
2) create a directory on your MIO under \my flash disk\
3) copy all the files and directories from the .rar into the directory you just created on your MIO
4) Click on the setup.exe file in the directory .. this will install MioMap software
5) After install, find and doubleclick the GAPI_for_HPC_v307.CAB file.. This will install GAPI on your MIO desktop
6) To launch Miomap correctly, run GAPI SETUP first .. if you do not run GAPI, the touchscreen will not work correctly and you will have to soft-reset..
7) double click GAPI Setup, remove all checkmarks from the options except "Framebuffer Cache".. Click on "Set Device" box .. choose "Mio C210,CE 4.2, 320x240" and click on "Set selected device" ... once ready to run MioMap, change Display orientation from "270" to "0" , then click on save&exit
8) Screen will rotate, don't be alarmed .. launch Miomap ..screen rotates back to proper rotation..

I know this sounds quite complex, but you only really have to do it once ..GAPI is required to make sure the touchscreen is properly aligned and you only have to worry about the "Display orientation" option whenever you launch MioMap ...

download the .rar file here..
this link will be up for only a short while.. Miomap software comes preloaded on american MIO c310's.. I treat this as an upgrade to the canadian 310's.. I am under the assumption you can not purchase miomap seperately and so I'm not sure if this falls under any sort of copyright issues...

http://members.shaw.ca/sumpy/miomap%20c310.rar

Hey,

Thanks for putting these up. I tried them but after I copied everything over and clicked "setup", I got the error message License Not Found.. Installation Aborted. Or something along those lines... Am I missing something?

a in yul
Dec 5th, 2006, 02:35 AM
Turbotronix: USA maps are included with your c310 and destinator software.. you should have recieved 2 discs with your unit.. one of these discs is labeled Miomap D1.0 .. install this cd and you will get acess to the US maps for destinator

MioMap 3.2: okay.. I've put together a .rar file for miomap 3.2 .. this includes the software itself along with the correct .DLL's, modifications and programs to get it running.. I did NOT include any maps in this archive, it would have made the file too large .. you CAN download the Canadian map from

http://www.my-guide.de/foto/download/Canada.fbl

be aware, this is a 50 meg file on a slow server...

Install instructions:

1) extract the .rar file into a directory on your computer
2) create a directory on your MIO under \my flash disk\
3) copy all the files and directories from the .rar into the directory you just created on your MIO
4) Click on the setup.exe file in the directory .. this will install MioMap software
5) After install, find and doubleclick the GAPI_for_HPC_v307.CAB file.. This will install GAPI on your MIO desktop
6) To launch Miomap correctly, run GAPI SETUP first .. if you do not run GAPI, the touchscreen will not work correctly and you will have to soft-reset..
7) double click GAPI Setup, remove all checkmarks from the options except "Framebuffer Cache".. Click on "Set Device" box .. choose "Mio C210,CE 4.2, 320x240" and click on "Set selected device" ... once ready to run MioMap, change Display orientation from "270" to "0" , then click on save&exit
8) Screen will rotate, don't be alarmed .. launch Miomap ..screen rotates back to proper rotation..

I know this sounds quite complex, but you only really have to do it once ..GAPI is required to make sure the touchscreen is properly aligned and you only have to worry about the "Display orientation" option whenever you launch MioMap ...

download the .rar file here..
this link will be up for only a short while.. Miomap software comes preloaded on american MIO c310's.. I treat this as an upgrade to the canadian 310's.. I am under the assumption you can not purchase miomap seperately and so I'm not sure if this falls under any sort of copyright issues...

http://members.shaw.ca/sumpy/miomap%20c310.rar

thanks for putting this up, i got a confirmation that my mio is on its way, just beat the OOS from COSTCO too, phew..!!

do we need to do anything PRIOR to this file, are there any preparations to the MIO or other files to download before running this RAR file..?

TIA for your help,

a.

kingandjen
Dec 5th, 2006, 02:43 AM
thx chris

chris_ng's files on my server since i got unlimited bandwidth

miomap c310.rar (http://www.jbeauty.com/redflagdeals/miomap%20c310.rar)

Canada.fbl (http://www.jbeauty.com/redflagdeals/Canada.fbl)

I saw there's the C710 model at staples which had additional features like bluetooth, video player (without hacking) , etc...

it's 549.96... any comments on this model?

a in yul
Dec 5th, 2006, 03:04 AM
thx chris

chris_ng's files on my server since i got unlimited bandwidth

miomap c310.rar (http://www.jbeauty.com/redflagdeals/miomap%20c310.rar)

Canada.fbl (http://www.jbeauty.com/redflagdeals/Canada.fbl)

I saw there's the C710 model at staples which had additional features like bluetooth, video player (without hacking) , etc...

it's 549.96... any comments on this model?

its also available on costco for 540..., the minor diffs in my opinion are not worth the excess cost, and i think u can get a bluetooth fm transmitter for your car if u want,

cy
Dec 5th, 2006, 04:16 AM
Thanks Chris Ng, that was very helpful - Although I can't find the time to give it a try yet.

However a question I think that have been answered before in the thread and i just want to confirm that if we screw up anything, we just need to turn the bottom switch off, then turn back on and it will restore back to default?

Thanks!

k__dam
Dec 5th, 2006, 05:56 AM
this may be a silly question but you know when u first get the unit, everytime u touched the touchscreen u hear a 'click' sound,,,ever since i unlocked it, i cant seem to get that to work when i use the destinator.....i tried going under the audio for destinator, cranked it up and it seemed to be working but once i get back to the mainscreen of destinator its gone again:evil:

TurboTronix
Dec 5th, 2006, 09:18 AM
Nice! I'll try it once I get home...

BTW, why the Canadian.fbl isn't the C310 comes with Canadian? Also where can I get the USA.fbl for this or can I use the 2nd CD that came with my Mio?

Lastly, anyone knows a good place to get the TomTom6? All the one's I got don't seem to install properly...

mre
Dec 5th, 2006, 10:24 AM
Thanks for putting everything together chris. I'll test it out as soon as I get the unit.

chris ng
Dec 5th, 2006, 10:28 AM
If you screw your c310 up, you can definitely restart from scratch by turning the switch at the bottom of the unit from "on" to "off" .. be aware that any files and programs you originally installed in the "my flashdisk" directory of the Mio will NOT be deleted...However, please also note that the original destinator software that came with the mio was originally installed in the flash area as well.. IF you modifed this directory and rendered destinator unusable, you will have to recover this by reinstalling from the miomap dvd... So do't worry, you can't really break anything permanently...

Destinator map files are different in format than the .FBL map files of Miomap 3.2 .. the .fbl files cannot be used in destinator

TomTom6 is a pain in the butt to install unless you have the original CD to get proper files from..

TurboTronix
Dec 5th, 2006, 10:55 AM
So then how to I add the maps to 3.2 (is it even worth upgrading my current version)? I want to have Canada and USA maps...

Someone should post how to get the mio back to default state (like reinstalling it from scratch in order to get rid of the things installed afterwards). Unless this is super easy and can be done easily.

If you screw your c310 up, you can definitely restart from scratch by turning the switch at the bottom of the unit from "on" to "off" .. be aware that any files and programs you originally installed in the "my flashdisk" directory of the Mio will NOT be deleted...However, please also note that the original destinator software that came with the mio was originally installed in the flash area as well.. IF you modifed this directory and rendered destinator unusable, you will have to recover this by reinstalling from the miomap dvd... So do't worry, you can't really break anything permanently...

Destinator map files are different in format than the .FBL map files of Miomap 3.2 .. the .fbl files cannot be used in destinator

TomTom6 is a pain in the butt to install unless you have the original CD to get proper files from..

rf134a
Dec 5th, 2006, 12:00 PM
So then how to I add the maps to 3.2 (is it even worth upgrading my current version)? I want to have Canada and USA maps...

Someone should post how to get the mio back to default state (like reinstalling it from scratch in order to get rid of the things installed afterwards). Unless this is super easy and can be done easily.

To install the US maps, you'll need to transfer it to your unit using the cd. Or you can use "mio transfer hack" which will allow you to view every file in every directory and you can transfer the US maps there. The 50 states plus Guam and Puerto Rico take up 939MB. I had to delete North Carolina to fit the Canadian maps in my 310x.

Does anyone have a more recent version of canada.fbl that they can send me? :) :D

mineown
Dec 5th, 2006, 12:50 PM
Turbotronix: USA maps are included with your c310 and destinator software.. you should have recieved 2 discs with your unit.. one of these discs is labeled Miomap D1.0 .. install this cd and you will get acess to the US maps for destinator

MioMap 3.2: okay.. I've put together a .rar file for miomap 3.2 .. this includes the software itself along with the correct .DLL's, modifications and programs to get it running.. I did NOT include any maps in this archive, it would have made the file too large .. you CAN download the Canadian map from


Thanks a lot for putting this together.

Once I finish the upgrade, will it override the existing destinator (which is essentially MioMap 3.0, right?)?

Also, do I have to re-install all the maps for 3.2 to access?
If so, how?

Why do I even need to download your Canada.fbl since the Candian c310s has all the Canadian and US maps pre-loaded?

Thanks again.

mypatpat
Dec 5th, 2006, 01:56 PM
wow... i want to get my hands on this. its sold out in both costco and staples, whats my next bet?

thanks

Costco restocked! Just ordered one!

Go grab em quick before they run out again!

chris ng
Dec 5th, 2006, 03:01 PM
Thanks a lot for putting this together.

Once I finish the upgrade, will it override the existing destinator (which is essentially MioMap 3.0, right?)?

Also, do I have to re-install all the maps for 3.2 to access?
If so, how?

Why do I even need to download your Canada.fbl since the Candian c310s has all the Canadian and US maps pre-loaded?

Thanks again.

Destinator is NOT Miomap .. the confusion lies in the fact that destinator is installed in a directory named Miomap as well.. You will require the Canada.fbl file for MioMap 3.2 and place it into the maps directory for Miomap 3.2 since MioMap and Destinator maps are in diffrent formats ...

Canadian C310's only have canadian destinator maps pre-installed.. the US maps are included on the DVD that comes with the unit.. there is not enough space on the Mio to have the entire US maps preloaded at the same time.. In fact, if you want both canadian and us maps loaded into your mio ready to go, you will need to get yourself a 1 or 2 gig SD card to put the entire US maps on... This basically pertains to all the diffrent software availible out there.. the entire US map database is close to 1 gig in size alone with all the diffrent nav software out there (tomtom, iguidance, miomaps, etc)

I'm at the office at the moment.. later this evening I'll see about doing a more indepth step by step on the install of Miomap 3.2

k__dam
Dec 5th, 2006, 03:12 PM
I tried putting mp3's on my device,,after 1 song i couldnt put more,,seems odd since it has 512mb flash...my question is,,with the unlock and movie program installed,,how much space does that take up and how much space should i have left?? Im thinking it deff should have more than 5mb:evil:

TurboTronix
Dec 5th, 2006, 03:16 PM
Well don't count on the internal mem. For MP3 you better get an external SD, don't save them in the internal mem.

I got 2gb for 59$ at FS this past weekend.

I tried putting mp3's on my device,,after 1 song i couldnt put more,,seems odd since it has 512mb flash...my question is,,with the unlock and movie program installed,,how much space does that take up and how much space should i have left?? Im thinking it deff should have more than 5mb:evil:

jerryhung
Dec 5th, 2006, 04:03 PM
I am returning mine to Staples (Kitchener or Waterloo) this weekend

Anybody in KW who wants it can have it at cost ($273.xx)

xinix
Dec 5th, 2006, 08:27 PM
Hey,

Thanks for putting these up. I tried them but after I copied everything over and clicked "setup", I got the error message License Not Found.. Installation Aborted. Or something along those lines... Am I missing something?

Yah, thanks to chrisng for the files and instructions. However, I get the same error as chrisc2. What is this license file thingy? Maybe it's looking for miomap 3.0 before it can install 3.2?

Bigmouth
Dec 5th, 2006, 08:47 PM
Yah, thanks to chrisng for the files and instructions. However, I get the same error as chrisc2. What is this license file thingy? Maybe it's looking for miomap 3.0 before it can install 3.2?

I got this error too. Any fix yet?

patricQ
Dec 5th, 2006, 08:52 PM
Thanks to Chris Ng's directions, I succeeded in installing the MioMap 3.2 (aka iGo). Just as others did, I also got the "license not found" error. It appeared that it was looking for a file in the "MioMap" folder. So I renamed the original MioMap folder to something else, so that the new MioMap files can reside in a "MioMap" folder. Then it installed fine. Lastly, I created a new shortcut for the original MioMap program and placed it on the Desktop. Now, both the Destinator and the new iGo programs are functional.

One thing about the GAPI app: it has to be re-run after a soft reset.

k__dam
Dec 5th, 2006, 09:09 PM
[QUOTE=One thing about the GAPI app: it has to be re-run after a soft reset.[/QUOTE]


Using task manager to exit destinator or miomap3.2 should solve that problem i hope,,i'll give it a try later tonight

Bigmouth
Dec 5th, 2006, 09:45 PM
Thanks to Chris Ng's directions, I succeeded in installing the MioMap 3.2 (aka iGo). Just as others did, I also got the "license not found" error. It appeared that it was looking for a file in the "MioMap" folder. So I renamed the original MioMap folder to something else, so that the new MioMap files can reside in a "MioMap" folder. Then it installed fine. Lastly, I created a new shortcut for the original MioMap program and placed it on the Desktop. Now, both the Destinator and the new iGo programs are functional.

One thing about the GAPI app: it has to be re-run after a soft reset.

Thanks to PatricQ, the installation worked perfectly after renaming the directory.

And many thanks to Chris Ng for the detailed instructions.

chris ng
Dec 5th, 2006, 09:47 PM
Patricq has it right .. please rename your original miomap directory to something else before performing the steps to install miomap 3.2 .. I missed that step :) ..

Thanks Patricq..

ekoc
Dec 5th, 2006, 10:31 PM
Do anyone know where to download US map for Miomap 3.2?
Thanks

aqn99
Dec 5th, 2006, 10:41 PM
Updated Canada map for miomap 3.2
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=73100

torowl
Dec 5th, 2006, 10:59 PM
Thanks chris ng

How long the installation will take? Seem it hung at EULA screen. I click accept, but no respond. Any idea?

chrisc2
Dec 5th, 2006, 11:06 PM
Do anyone know where to download US map for Miomap 3.2?
Thanks

Ditto! I installed Miomaps... OMG.. I can't believe how much better it is an Destinator. Everything looks so nice!

k__dam
Dec 5th, 2006, 11:26 PM
is it jus me or is miomap always in 'night mode'?? cant seem to change it to 'day mode' and has anyone tryed the new canada map (90mb)??

edit: nvm i found out how to turn off night mode for miomap3.2

jochooi
Dec 5th, 2006, 11:42 PM
I agree, Miomap 3.2 significantly changes things - completely new GUI - feels like a totally different device!

Those people who returned their units should reconsider.

Thanks Chris Ng - you rock!

kamran
Dec 5th, 2006, 11:44 PM
cool device, i'm really glad i purchased.

however i'm in trouble with the hack, i tried instructions below plus renaming miomaps directory to get rid of license error. i renamed the top miomaps dir under the my flash disk directory.

anyway after the install i'm not sure what to do. what do i do with that renamed directory, and where is the new application installed?

i first did this procedure
1. Install Activesync from the CD.
2. Run Activesync
3. Connect the Mio to the PC via USB cable. **NOTE: The unit HAS TO BE TURNED ON in order for it to be recognized by your computer.
4. Choose "Cancel" in Activesync to make it run as a guest.
5. Open the Exlore option in ActiveSync so that you can now access your GPS' files.
6. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap and rename the file MioMap.exe to MioMap2.exe
7. Copy the files MioMap.exe, MioTool.exe and Unlock-C510-Mioskins?.cab to the same directory.
8. Disconnect the GPS from the comptuer, and do a soft reset by pressing the "Reset" button on the bottom of the unit while it is powered on.
9. When it restarts, double click on MioMap and File Explorer should start.
10. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\Miomap and double click MioTool.exe (this will show a small box in the top left corner, it opens a keyboard)
11. In the same folder double click unlock-c510mioskins.cab
12. Now open the keyboard by clicking the small button in the top left.
13. With the keyboard open, click on the box that has the word "Utils" in it, then press the enter key on the keyboard and it should move on to the next screen
14. Click the small box again to hide the keyboard.
15. Select "Yes To All" and the files will install
16. Once completed, do a soft reset again by pressing the reset button on the bottom of the unit.
17. The unit will reset and bring up the desktop for Windows CE, now double click on explorer
18. Navigate to My Flash Disk\utils and delete French.lng (select it and click the red "x" at the top of the screen)
19. Navigate to My Flash Disk\miomap\miomap and delete MioMap.exe
20. Rename the MioMap2.exe to MioMap.exe
21. Do another soft reset and you're done.


next i followed this these instructions:

1) extract the .rar file into a directory on your computer
2) create a directory on your MIO under \my flash disk\
3) copy all the files and directories from the .rar into the directory you just created on your MIO
4) Click on the setup.exe file in the directory .. this will install MioMap software
5) After install, find and doubleclick the GAPI_for_HPC_v307.CAB file.. This will install GAPI on your MIO desktop
6) To launch Miomap correctly, run GAPI SETUP first .. if you do not run GAPI, the touchscreen will not work correctly and you will have to soft-reset..
7) double click GAPI Setup, remove all checkmarks from the options except "Framebuffer Cache".. Click on "Set Device" box .. choose "Mio C210,CE 4.2, 320x240" and click on "Set selected device" ... once ready to run MioMap, change Display orientation from "270" to "0" , then click on save&exit
8) Screen will rotate, don't be alarmed .. launch Miomap ..screen rotates back to proper rotation..

a in yul
Dec 6th, 2006, 01:15 AM
cool device, i'm really glad i purchased.

however i'm in trouble with the hack, i tried instructions below plus renaming miomaps directory to get rid of license error. i renamed the top miomaps dir under the my flash disk directory.

anyway after the install i'm not sure what to do. what do i do with that renamed directory, and where is the new application installed?

i first did this procedure
1. Install Activesync from the CD.
2. Run Activesync
3. Connect the Mio to the PC via USB cable. **NOTE: The unit HAS TO BE TURNED ON in order for it to be recognized by your computer.
4. Choose "Cancel" in Activesync to make it run as a guest.
5. Open the Exlore option in ActiveSync so that you can now access your GPS' files.
6. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap and rename the file MioMap.exe to MioMap2.exe
7. Copy the files MioMap.exe, MioTool.exe and Unlock-C510-Mioskins?.cab to the same directory.
8. Disconnect the GPS from the comptuer, and do a soft reset by pressing the "Reset" button on the bottom of the unit while it is powered on.
9. When it restarts, double click on MioMap and File Explorer should start.
10. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\Miomap and double click MioTool.exe (this will show a small box in the top left corner, it opens a keyboard)
11. In the same folder double click unlock-c510mioskins.cab
12. Now open the keyboard by clicking the small button in the top left.
13. With the keyboard open, click on the box that has the word "Utils" in it, then press the enter key on the keyboard and it should move on to the next screen
14. Click the small box again to hide the keyboard.
15. Select "Yes To All" and the files will install
16. Once completed, do a soft reset again by pressing the reset button on the bottom of the unit.
17. The unit will reset and bring up the desktop for Windows CE, now double click on explorer
18. Navigate to My Flash Disk\utils and delete French.lng (select it and click the red "x" at the top of the screen)
19. Navigate to My Flash Disk\miomap\miomap and delete MioMap.exe
20. Rename the MioMap2.exe to MioMap.exe
21. Do another soft reset and you're done.


next i followed this these instructions:

1) extract the .rar file into a directory on your computer
2) create a directory on your MIO under \my flash disk\
3) copy all the files and directories from the .rar into the directory you just created on your MIO
4) Click on the setup.exe file in the directory .. this will install MioMap software
5) After install, find and doubleclick the GAPI_for_HPC_v307.CAB file.. This will install GAPI on your MIO desktop
6) To launch Miomap correctly, run GAPI SETUP first .. if you do not run GAPI, the touchscreen will not work correctly and you will have to soft-reset..
7) double click GAPI Setup, remove all checkmarks from the options except "Framebuffer Cache".. Click on "Set Device" box .. choose "Mio C210,CE 4.2, 320x240" and click on "Set selected device" ... once ready to run MioMap, change Display orientation from "270" to "0" , then click on save&exit
8) Screen will rotate, don't be alarmed .. launch Miomap ..screen rotates back to proper rotation..

sorry man, just got my unit, but have not as yet attempted the hack, and dont know how..

good luck to ya..,

a.

tazmanyan
Dec 6th, 2006, 01:50 AM
Found the solution! The new directory you copied your files to must be named MioMap... first rename the former one MioMap2, and you'll be all set.

Daboss
Dec 6th, 2006, 01:57 AM
Is there any way to just place the new Canada map on an SD card and get it to work? Or do I have to "hack" the device?

torowl
Dec 6th, 2006, 02:50 AM
I get some difficult to install miomap. Here is what I did:

1. In My Flash Disk\, rename Original “MioMap” directory to “Destinator”.
2. In My Flash Disk\, create a new directory “MioMap”.
3. Unzip .rar file, copy all files into My Flash Disk\MioMap.
4. Copy Canada.fbl into My Flash Disk\MioMap\maps directory.
5. Run setup.exe.
Then it will prompt “Would you like to install MinMap v3?”, click Yes.
Then it installing something, and the display turn 90 degree shortly, then back to normal display.
Prompt to choose language, the default is English(US) with yellow highlight. The “OK” and arrow buttons don’t work. I have to click green “1/1” to make it go to next page.
Next page is choose Guidance Language. Default is English(US) with yellow highlight. Same as about, the buttons don’t work, I have to click green “3/3” to continue.
Then turn to EULA, there are two arrows at right, and an “Accept” button. I can not click any of them. It is hanging there.

Did I miss anything?

Thanks in advance.

kamran
Dec 6th, 2006, 06:55 AM
yes you need to do steps 5 to 8 below.
where did you copy your canada.fbl? myflashdisk\miomap\?

5) After install, find and doubleclick the GAPI_for_HPC_v307.CAB file.. This will install GAPI on your MIO desktop
6) To launch Miomap correctly, run GAPI SETUP first .. if you do not run GAPI, the touchscreen will not work correctly and you will have to soft-reset..
7) double click GAPI Setup, remove all checkmarks from the options except "Framebuffer Cache".. Click on "Set Device" box .. choose "Mio C210,CE 4.2, 320x240" and click on "Set selected device" ... once ready to run MioMap, change Display orientation from "270" to "0" , then click on save&exit
8) Screen will rotate, don't be alarmed .. launch Miomap ..screen rotates back to proper rotation..

I get some difficult to install miomap. Here is what I did:

1. In My Flash Disk\, rename Original “MioMap” directory to “Destinator”.
2. In My Flash Disk\, create a new directory “MioMap”.
3. Unzip .rar file, copy all files into My Flash Disk\MioMap.
4. Copy Canada.fbl into My Flash Disk\MioMap\maps directory.
5. Run setup.exe.
Then it will prompt “Would you like to install MinMap v3?”, click Yes.
Then it installing something, and the display turn 90 degree shortly, then back to normal display.
Prompt to choose language, the default is English(US) with yellow highlight. The “OK” and arrow buttons don’t work. I have to click green “1/1” to make it go to next page.
Next page is choose Guidance Language. Default is English(US) with yellow highlight. Same as about, the buttons don’t work, I have to click green “3/3” to continue.
Then turn to EULA, there are two arrows at right, and an “Accept” button. I can not click any of them. It is hanging there.

Did I miss anything?

Thanks in advance.

torowl
Dec 6th, 2006, 12:33 PM
Thanks kamran

I didn't realize miomap will start to run right after setup. The EULA screen was actually from the first run.

Because the screen was landscape, but the setup process was done in portrait (I guess this version miomap is for PDA), so I was not able to click accept button in ELAU screen. I think we should run GAPI first, rotate the screen before setup miomap.

I didn't try this, last night I did something else to make it work. First I removed tahmabd.ttf and run setup, the setup will exit, but the screen was roated, that is what I need. Then I copy back tahmabd.ttf, and setup again, it works.

Each time we need run GAPI to rotate screen before run miomap, is there any work around?

jochooi
Dec 6th, 2006, 01:35 PM
There must be a way to automatically run GAPI after each reset. Maybe place it under the startup folder? Any windows CE expert opinion - err ChrisNg?

Daboss
Dec 6th, 2006, 01:53 PM
Sorry for the repeat question, but I don't want to hack the device if I don't need to. Anyhow, here is my question again:

Is there any way to just place the new Canada map on an SD card and get it to work? Or do I have to "hack" the device?

mre
Dec 6th, 2006, 04:20 PM
There must be a way to automatically run GAPI after each reset. Maybe place it under the startup folder? Any windows CE expert opinion - err ChrisNg?

How about creating a shortcut to GAPI and place it in \Windows\Startup ?

torowl
Dec 6th, 2006, 04:45 PM
Sorry for the repeat question, but I don't want to hack the device if I don't need to. Anyhow, here is my question again:

Is there any way to just place the new Canada map on an SD card and get it to work? Or do I have to "hack" the device?

Maybe you can try the map dvd in the package. I did some mess up when hacking, somehow the map was missing after hard reset. So I used map dvd to re-install the mapping software and map. There is an option can install map in SD card. Maybe you can try make a new dvd with your new map files instead of old files, and install it.

Haven’t heard there is new map data for Destinator…

mre
Dec 6th, 2006, 05:50 PM
I just tested my shortcut method and it works, so that everytime you soft reset the device it will run GAPI. Here's how I did it:

1) Create a text file on your PC desktop. Open the text file and paste the following characters into it.

44#"\Program Files\GAPI for HPCs\GAPISetup.exe"

2) Save the changes.
3) Rename the file to something like Run_GAPI.lnk. Make sure you give the file a .lnk extension.
4) Copy the .lnk file to \Windows\startup.
5) Reset the device and you'll see that GAPI will run.

Now all I need is my Mio so I can test some of this stuff out. :)

Jrawk
Dec 6th, 2006, 06:27 PM
Turbotronix: USA maps are included with your c310 and destinator software.. you should have recieved 2 discs with your unit.. one of these discs is labeled Miomap D1.0 .. install this cd and you will get acess to the US maps for destinator

MioMap 3.2: okay.. I've put together a .rar file for miomap 3.2 .. this includes the software itself along with the correct .DLL's, modifications and programs to get it running.. I did NOT include any maps in this archive, it would have made the file too large .. you CAN download the Canadian map from

http://www.my-guide.de/foto/download/Canada.fbl

be aware, this is a 50 meg file on a slow server...

Install instructions:

1) extract the .rar file into a directory on your computer
2) create a directory on your MIO under \my flash disk\
3) copy all the files and directories from the .rar into the directory you just created on your MIO
4) Click on the setup.exe file in the directory .. this will install MioMap software
5) After install, find and doubleclick the GAPI_for_HPC_v307.CAB file.. This will install GAPI on your MIO desktop
6) To launch Miomap correctly, run GAPI SETUP first .. if you do not run GAPI, the touchscreen will not work correctly and you will have to soft-reset..
7) double click GAPI Setup, remove all checkmarks from the options except "Framebuffer Cache".. Click on "Set Device" box .. choose "Mio C210,CE 4.2, 320x240" and click on "Set selected device" ... once ready to run MioMap, change Display orientation from "270" to "0" , then click on save&exit
8) Screen will rotate, don't be alarmed .. launch Miomap ..screen rotates back to proper rotation..

I know this sounds quite complex, but you only really have to do it once ..GAPI is required to make sure the touchscreen is properly aligned and you only have to worry about the "Display orientation" option whenever you launch MioMap ...

download the .rar file here..
this link will be up for only a short while.. Miomap software comes preloaded on american MIO c310's.. I treat this as an upgrade to the canadian 310's.. I am under the assumption you can not purchase miomap seperately and so I'm not sure if this falls under any sort of copyright issues...

http://members.shaw.ca/sumpy/miomap%20c310.rar

Not to take away from what you posted here, but I had some issues with the install, so I just thought that I would revise it a little to make it answer the questions I had while installing it.

NOTE: You will need to download the files from the above links kindly provided by chris ng.

1. Extract the .rar file into a directory on your computer
2. Rename the \My Flash Disk\MioMap to \My Flash Disk\Destinator
3. Create a directory on your MIO called \My Flash Disk\MioMap
4. Copy all the files and directories from the .rar into the \My Flash Disk\MioMap directory.
5. Copy the Canada.fbl file into your \My Flash Disk\MioMap\maps directory
6. Locate the GAPI_for_HPC_v307.cab file in your \My Flash Disk\MioMap directory and run it. This will install GAPI to your Mio desktop
7. Once installed, launch GAPI from your desktop.
8. Remove all checkmarks from the options menu expect "Frambuffer Cache".
9. Click the "Select Device" box.
10. From the drop down list, choose the first "Mio C210 CE 4.2, 320x240" and click on the "Select Device" button below.
12. Once ready to run MioMap, change the display orientation from "270" to "0" in the bottom left corner, then click on Save & Exit.
13. The screen will now rotate which changes the orientation.
14. Locate and launch "Setup.exe" in your \My Flash Disk\MioMap directory
15. Setup will now run and install.
16. The application should automatically run, and will prompt you to accept the licensing agreement.
17. Next, choose the desired language and voice.
18. You're done!

Some observations:
This software is much more detailed and appears to have a lot more options, including an exit button.
However, as for being user friendly, it definitely is not.
I am having a hard time with trying to figure out this software.

The Destinator was so simple. 2 clicks and you are entering a destination.
This one, its like jumping through hoops..

Does anyone have a manual for this app?
Also, what about the American maps. I plan on heading to the states.


Thanks!

chris ng
Dec 6th, 2006, 07:07 PM
The users manual for Miomap 3.2 can be downloaded here:

http://service.mio-tech.com/M0800/F0810_FileReader.aspx?fileid=103296

The new larger (90mb) Canada Miomap 3.2 file that was mentioned here is actually the same map version as the smaller version many people already have .. version 2005.2 .. The only reason the map is larger is because it has more POI's included .. the actual mapping information is the same as the smaller 50meg file.. and actually, the same as the canadian map in the original Destinator software ...

DaBoss -> The newer "Updated" map is only for MioMap 3.2 software.. If you do not hack your Mio, you will be stuck with using Destinator software which utilizes a diffrent map format..

I also installed TomTom 6.01.. Unfortunately the latest maps TomTom has for Canada are not much better than the MioMaps version and the software itself I found to not be as well rounded as Miomap 3.2 ...

From what I understand, Mio-tech will offer new updated maps of Canada spring 2007 in both Destinator and MioMap formats ..

mre
Dec 6th, 2006, 08:01 PM
The users manual for Miomap 3.2 can be downloaded here:

http://service.mio-tech.com/M0800/F0810_FileReader.aspx?fileid=103296

The new larger (90mb) Canada Miomap 3.2 file that was mentioned here is actually the same map version as the smaller version many people already have .. version 2005.2 .. The only reason the map is larger is because it has more POI's included .. the actual mapping information is the same as the smaller 50meg file.. and actually, the same as the canadian map in the original Destinator software ...

DaBoss -> The newer "Updated" map is only for MioMap 3.2 software.. If you do not hack your Mio, you will be stuck with using Destinator software which utilizes a diffrent map format..

I also installed TomTom 6.01.. Unfortunately the latest maps TomTom has for Canada are not much better than the MioMaps version and the software itself I found to not be as well rounded as Miomap 3.2 ...

From what I understand, Mio-tech will offer new updated maps of Canada spring 2007 in both Destinator and MioMap formats ..

I thought the TomTom maps for Canada were newer since they were from 2006? I'll have to check them out and compare.

chrisc2
Dec 6th, 2006, 09:57 PM
I've tried looking everywhere for US maps for Miomaps.. has anyone seen them around? I'm almost at the point of paying for them! I'm probably going to return the unit if I can't find any.. I hate Destinator but I really need US maps so I guess I'm stuck with it.

jochooi
Dec 6th, 2006, 10:19 PM
I just tested my shortcut method and it works, so that everytime you soft reset the device it will run GAPI. Here's how I did it:

1) Create a text file on your PC desktop. Open the text file and paste the following characters into it.

44#"\Program Files\GAPI for HPCs\GAPISetup.exe"

2) Save the changes.
3) Rename the file to something like Run_GAPI.lnk. Make sure you give the file a .lnk extension.
4) Copy the .lnk file to \Windows\startup.
5) Reset the device and you'll see that GAPI will run.

Now all I need is my Mio so I can test some of this stuff out. :)

Thanks - will give this a try tonight

rambokid
Dec 6th, 2006, 11:03 PM
Don't know much about PDA and WinCE, it this setup possible?
Hack to WinCE, connect USB wireless network adapter to it, connect to home LAN to surf and read hotmail. Where to get the USB NIC driver for WinCE?

mineown
Dec 6th, 2006, 11:49 PM
I successfully installed mipmap 3.2 and correlated canada.fbl.
Many thanks to Chris NG.
Things seem to be working fine except two things:
1. The POI lists are all empty in miomap 3.2. Where can we get the larger canada.fbl (~90mb)?
[I was wrong about empty POI lists, simply didn't find the right way of displaying them]
2. I renamed my old miomap directory to destinator before installing the new
v3.2. I can still run miomap.exe from the new destinator directory,
however I got the error message saying "no maps found". I think this is
caused by the dir rename. How can I work around this problem then?


Thanks

k__dam
Dec 7th, 2006, 01:12 AM
mineown: copy 'canada' folder from destinator folder into 'miomap' folder,,that should do the trick. Worked for me:)

TurboTronix
Dec 7th, 2006, 01:21 AM
Ya where are the USA maps for 3.2??

I have to admit is much more complex, took me a while to enter a destination, the default version is more user friendly.

Lets say I want to make it boot directly into 3.2, how can I get the option of an MP3 player like the default version? And how would I go about to make it boot straight into MioMap 3.2?

Like how can I create a starting menu similar to the Mio C710 (with a button for MP3, Photos, Video...)

torowl
Dec 7th, 2006, 02:14 AM
Ya where are the USA maps for 3.2??

I have to admit is much more complex, took me a while to enter a destination, the default version is more user friendly.

Lets say I want to make it boot directly into 3.2, how can I get the option of an MP3 player like the default version? And how would I go about to make it boot straight into MioMap 3.2?

Like how can I create a starting menu similar to the Mio C710 (with a button for MP3, Photos, Video...)

Maybe you can try this, I haven't tried by my self. I think we need resolve annoying GAPI issue before going this setp.
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=72525

torowl
Dec 7th, 2006, 02:22 AM
mineown: copy 'canada' folder from destinator folder into 'miomap' folder,,that should do the trick. Worked for me:)

Doesnt work for me. :confused:
I have Canada and some States maps loaded. There are only have some major POIs for Canada, i.e. shopping mall. If I search for Bestbuy, it shows the nearest Bestbuy is in the states.

Didn't check if there are any speed camera POIs in Canada, I guess not. I think I need figure out loading my own POIs and speed cameras.

torowl
Dec 7th, 2006, 02:30 AM
I just tested my shortcut method and it works, so that everytime you soft reset the device it will run GAPI. Here's how I did it:

1) Create a text file on your PC desktop. Open the text file and paste the following characters into it.

44#"\Program Files\GAPI for HPCs\GAPISetup.exe"

2) Save the changes.
3) Rename the file to something like Run_GAPI.lnk. Make sure you give the file a .lnk extension.
4) Copy the .lnk file to \Windows\startup.
5) Reset the device and you'll see that GAPI will run.

Now all I need is my Mio so I can test some of this stuff out. :)

But by doing this, still need tap the screen, click the button.

There is a new update for GAPI.
http://www.wincesoft.de/html/gapi_for_hpc_s.html

I tried this version, Mio DigiWalker C310x is in the device list. Aslo if you scroll down a little bit in the download page, it suggested change sys.txt for miomap display orientation issue. No luck for me.

chrisc2
Dec 7th, 2006, 02:45 AM
Does anyone know how to load US or other maps for Miomaps 3.2 onto the SD card?

I tried putting it in:
Storage Card/miomap/maps/
and
Storage Card/miomap/miomap/maps/

but neither seems to load up.

I was following the directions on this page..

http://johntam.com/tiki-index.php?page=Mio+c310x+GPS#Hack_the_Mio_c310x

mineown
Dec 7th, 2006, 09:05 AM
mineown: copy 'canada' folder from destinator folder into 'miomap' folder,,that should do the trick. Worked for me:)

Thanks Man.
It worked.

Jrawk
Dec 7th, 2006, 09:18 AM
Ya where are the USA maps for 3.2??


I concur!

As for the user friendly-ness.. or lack of... I concur again!

I think to start a route, you have to put in the address. then it will show it, then you choose "Route To"
and as you start driving it will direct you.


Mapping is a little cracked out though.
Just for a location up kennedy it wanted me to turn right onto lawrence, and then pull a u turn on lawrence, only to make a right back onto kennedy.... :S

Plus there is a big concreste centre divider there......

mre
Dec 7th, 2006, 09:19 AM
But by doing this, still need tap the screen, click the button.

There is a new update for GAPI.
http://www.wincesoft.de/html/gapi_for_hpc_s.html

I tried this version, Mio DigiWalker C310x is in the device list. Aslo if you scroll down a little bit in the download page, it suggested change sys.txt for miomap display orientation issue. No luck for me.

That's correct but it's a step in the right directory. I'll look into this further and see what I can come up with.

domtam
Dec 7th, 2006, 02:25 PM
I have tested it for a few days. Each day, I turned it on and used for short trip of 15 minutes or so. However, only after 4 days, it started to give "battery too low" warning.

Is my unit defective? Is it a design flaw or something?

If my unit is defective, I may go back to staples and ask for an exchange for a new unit.

Thanks
Dom

Jrawk
Dec 7th, 2006, 05:48 PM
I gotta say, I'm not too impressed with this new 3.2 software.
It really doesn't work all that well.

On a trip to Eglinton Sqaure along eglinton, it told me to go to the intersection of VP/Eglinton and make a u turn, then go back along eglinton and turn into the mall.

I dont really see what the advantage is to this software from the old one?

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Thanks.

TurboTronix
Dec 7th, 2006, 06:09 PM
I tried to get my mio back to its defualt state and i accidently deleted the original miomap folder :|

Now I reinstalled it from the CD but it won't add my Canada maps!! I added them on my SD card (both USA and Canada) and it only detects the USA....

Anyone knows what can be done?

I did not like the complexity of v3.2 and the fact that there is no USA maps so I decided for now its better to use the original version. I also noticed my GPA devices was not starting up so it caused some problems playing around with it I guess...

domtam
Dec 7th, 2006, 11:07 PM
Hi guys,

All of a sudden, the Mio C310 keeps giving me the following error message even if I enter some destination that is quite close.

"Origins or destination points cannoe be reached by vehicle. Please change origins or desintation points".

Do you have any idea what causes this problem? How can I solve it?

Thanks
Dom

torowl
Dec 8th, 2006, 07:40 PM
That's correct but it's a step in the right directory. I'll look into this further and see what I can come up with.

Guys

I get a workaround for this. The idea is using a script to run rotate screen, then run miomap, and when miomap exit, rotate screen back. This looks stupid but it works.

Because mio c130 does not have cmd.exe, I can not run .bat file in mio. I have to install other application to support scripts.

Here is what I did, you can try it if you are interesting in it.

1. Download ScreenRotate.exe. This small software is better than GAPI. When you run it, it will rotate screen by 90. You don’t need tap and click. This software doesn’t need install, just copy it in somewhere. I copy it in this path:
\Program Files\ScreenRotate\ScreenRotate.exe

2. Download MortScript and install it (using MortScript-4.0RC3-PNA.exe install). After installation, your mio will support .mscr script, it can run some applications in batch mode.

3. Create file MioMap.mscr, and type these lines, suppose miomap is installed in \Program Files\MioMap.

RunWait \Program Files\ScreenRotate\ScreenRotate.exe
RunWait \Program Files\MioMap\MioMap.exe
RunWait \Program Files\ScreenRotate\ScreenRotate.exe
RunWait \Program Files\ScreenRotate\ScreenRotate.exe
RunWait \Program Files\ScreenRotate\ScreenRotate.exe

4. Then you can double click MioMap.mscr to start MioMap.

Thanks

ekoc
Dec 8th, 2006, 11:24 PM
Anyone see this
http://www.miogps.com/CA/images/readme/C310sCA.pdf
look like different from mio c310s at staples and it uses MioMap 3.1

a in yul
Dec 8th, 2006, 11:35 PM
Anyone see this
http://www.miogps.com/CA/images/readme/C310sCA.pdf
look like different from mio c310s at staples and it uses MioMap 3.1

yeah, this is the one from costco.ca...

jochooi
Dec 9th, 2006, 04:50 AM
Anyone see this
http://www.miogps.com/CA/images/readme/C310sCA.pdf
look like different from mio c310s at staples and it uses MioMap 3.1

Therein lies the solution for those looking for the US maps for miomap 3.2 - assuming 3.1 and 3.2 maps are the same.

If someone with the 3.1 CD could upload a copy of the US *.fbl maps - that would be fab - :razz:

ryero
Dec 9th, 2006, 05:15 AM
So I bought the MioC310 too, hearing all the good stuff about it.

I driving around Richmond (BC) and about to cross the Arthur Lang. I was viewing the map in 2D and I was curious what the roads would look like in 3D, especially with all the bridges at the intersection.
However, the MioC310 came to a crash...telling me that it lacked memory!

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3294/picture00010oq4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I haven't tried it again yet. But has anyone else tried using the 3D view at a busy intersection?

Well, in anycase I think I'm going to refund it. It'll probably happen again when i come to that intersection and i don't want to limit myself to just using the 2D view. :(

coeternity
Dec 9th, 2006, 05:21 AM
So I bought the MioC310 too, hearing all the good stuff about it.

I driving around Richmond (BC) and about to cross the Arthur Lang. I was viewing the map in 2D and I was curious what the roads would look like in 3D, especially with all the bridges at the intersection.
However, the MioC310 came to a crash...telling me that it lacked memory!

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3294/picture00010oq4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I haven't tried it again yet. But has anyone else tried using the 3D view at a busy intersection?

Well, in anycase I think I'm going to refund it. It'll probably happen again when i come to that intersection and i don't want to limit myself to just using the 2D view. :(


u shld try it at richmond garden city and granville intersection. it almost killed me by asking me to turn at the incoming lane :cheesygri but of course i didnt follow it :razz:

start at no.4 rd then turn to granville going to richmond center

TurboTronix
Dec 9th, 2006, 06:13 AM
You can't always relly on it. I tested iGuidance 3.0 and many others they are all the same. If you know the erea then take the route that you believe is the best way to go.

GPS is more for places your never been or what I luv about them is when you travel long distance they let you know whats around you (fuel, hotel, next pit stop).

Regarding the problem I had earlier (reseting the device to its original state), you have to save the Canadian maps on the main memory for it to detect them (it won't detect them if you save them on the SD card).


u shld try it at richmond garden city and granville intersection. it almost killed me by asking me to turn at the incoming lane :cheesygri but of course i didnt follow it :razz:

start at no.4 rd then turn to granville going to richmond center

Jrawk
Dec 9th, 2006, 09:41 AM
The 3.2 software is ridiculous.

Instead of it instructing me to make a left turn onto the street i needed to be on, it suggested 3 right turns to effectively put me onto that street.

And then there is the random, turn off the road you need to be on, u-turn, and turn back onto the road you need to be on.


Complete F*N nonsense if you ask me...

YLSF
Dec 9th, 2006, 10:35 AM
haha.. Turning off the road and back on with a u-turn.. that is just messed!!

However, I think a lot of GPS units try to use right turns instead of left whenever possible (safety issue??)... My parents test drove an Acura RDX with GPS and the lady explained that it would suggest right turns vs. left turns so you didn't have to cut across traffic.... Hopefully there was a way to de-activate that because it would get annoying after a while doing "loops"

rf134a
Dec 9th, 2006, 11:10 AM
Therein lies the solution for those looking for the US maps for miomap 3.2 - assuming 3.1 and 3.2 maps are the same.

If someone with the 3.1 CD could upload a copy of the US *.fbl maps - that would be fab - :razz:

How about I trade you for the 91MB version of canada.fbl? All 50 states, DC, Guam & Puerto Rico is 939MB. Choose a state or 2... :razz: :)

mypatpat
Dec 9th, 2006, 11:37 AM
Anyone got their C310 from Costco yet? I got mine yesterday and it boots up to be MioMap 3.2, and the CD says so as well.

Just want to confirm I'm not seeing weird things.

jerryhung
Dec 9th, 2006, 01:20 PM
Just returned mine to Staples, got $273 back

the "Lack of memory" message and the right-turn-U-turn instruction is really weird, AND most importantly - I don't need it :P

Daboss
Dec 9th, 2006, 01:43 PM
Anyone got their C310 from Costco yet? I got mine yesterday and it boots up to be MioMap 3.2, and the CD says so as well.

Just want to confirm I'm not seeing weird things.


I'd have to check, but I don't think mine came with 3.2.

EDIT: I just saw what miomap 3.2 looks like, and I know I don't have that version. Is there somewhere to download this 3.2 software for the c310s?

Daboss
Dec 9th, 2006, 07:46 PM
Can anyone confirm if the new batch of C310s from Costco are in fact coming with the Miomap 3.2 software? If so, I might bring mine back and exchange it.

mypatpat
Dec 9th, 2006, 08:01 PM
Can anyone confirm if the new batch of C310s from Costco are in fact coming with the Miomap 3.2 software? If so, I might bring mine back and exchange it.

I'm still not sure if mind is a 3.2, I don't really have an older version to compare with.

These video is what I see on my screen, do let me know if this is a 3.2.
http://www.mio-tech.be/en/gps-navigation-products-mio-map-v3.htm

ekoc
Dec 9th, 2006, 09:18 PM
I'm still not sure if mind is a 3.2, I don't really have an older version to compare with.

These video is what I see on my screen, do let me know if this is a 3.2.
http://www.mio-tech.be/en/gps-navigation-products-mio-map-v3.htm

Do you buy it online or at store? I went to costo in Ottawa and did not see one.

jochooi
Dec 9th, 2006, 11:14 PM
I'm still not sure if mind is a 3.2, I don't really have an older version to compare with.

These video is what I see on my screen, do let me know if this is a 3.2.
http://www.mio-tech.be/en/gps-navigation-products-mio-map-v3.htm

Dude, that's Miomap V3 aka miomap 3.2 - lucky you -

Daboss
Dec 9th, 2006, 11:17 PM
Well if the latest c310s are being shipped with V3.2, we should all be able to get it somehow. Anyone know where to download this?

a in yul
Dec 10th, 2006, 12:33 AM
Do you buy it online or at store? I went to costo in Ottawa and did not see one.

i see it available on the .ca site, here is the link;

http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290806&whse=&topnav=&browse=&s=1

Avalonthas
Dec 11th, 2006, 12:34 AM
im thinking of going over to my local costco tomorrow and picking one of these up, but do you need a membership to buy from this company, ive never bought from them before.

Jrawk
Dec 11th, 2006, 07:32 AM
haha.. Turning off the road and back on with a u-turn.. that is just messed!!

However, I think a lot of GPS units try to use right turns instead of left whenever possible (safety issue??)... My parents test drove an Acura RDX with GPS and the lady explained that it would suggest right turns vs. left turns so you didn't have to cut across traffic.... Hopefully there was a way to de-activate that because it would get annoying after a while doing "loops"

There is an option in the settings for U-turns.. Which is NOT checked....

I wonder what it does if it IS checked..

It would just spin me in an a neverending circle of u-turn madness.

Back to the old software i go!.

Jrawk
Dec 11th, 2006, 08:22 AM
Does anyone have any idea how to get the US maps to work with the original software?

I put it into my storage card under a folder called miomap\maps\

When i go to settings, maps, it will show a US map there
and I select it, it pretends to load it, but nothing happens.

I need to use this thing down in the states.

Any help?

mikesxf
Dec 11th, 2006, 08:34 AM
Anyone got their C310 from Costco yet? I got mine yesterday and it boots up to be MioMap 3.2, and the CD says so as well.

Just want to confirm I'm not seeing weird things.

confirmed!
Got mine shipped from Costo on Friday. MioMap version 3.2 for SURE!!! :cheesygri

I guess Costco has newer models?

mikesxf
Dec 11th, 2006, 08:42 AM
Does anyone have any idea how to get the US maps to work with the original software?

I put it into my storage card under a folder called miomap\maps\

When i go to settings, maps, it will show a US map there
and I select it, it pretends to load it, but nothing happens.

I need to use this thing down in the states.

Any help?

I loaded us maps to the ext sd card using the mio's CD, then I can check the detail maps of US, before it just had skeleton of major roads.

I don't think you have to select it. it can get it by itself if there is one.

Jrawk
Dec 11th, 2006, 08:45 AM
I loaded us maps to the ext sd card using the mio's CD, then I can check the detail maps of US, before it just had skeleton of major roads.

I don't think you have to select it. it can get it by itself if there is one.

Hrm, I added in the maps per the dvd.

But I still cant use them.
They copied onto my SD card.
They show up in the list when i go to maps.
But in the software, when i try to put in an address, it only shows canadian addresses.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Thanks!

etcbq
Dec 11th, 2006, 10:17 AM
confirmed!
Got mine shipped from Costo on Friday. MioMap version 3.2 for SURE!!! :cheesygri

I guess Costco has newer models?

I received mine from costco last week and it is the older version. I'll be returning it today as I can't find the update to 3.2

Jrawk
Dec 11th, 2006, 10:39 AM
I received mine from costco last week and it is the older version. I'll be returning it today as I can't find the update to 3.2

The update to 3.2 stinks.

I like the old software much better.

TurboTronix
Dec 11th, 2006, 10:48 AM
Yup 3.2 sucks. If we can only get iGuidance v3.0 on it then it will be great. But the old software does the job as well so nothing to complain thus far.

The update to 3.2 stinks.

I like the old software much better.

Jrawk
Dec 11th, 2006, 12:29 PM
Yup 3.2 sucks. If we can only get iGuidance v3.0 on it then it will be great. But the old software does the job as well so nothing to complain thus far.

Any idea how to get the US maps to work?

They installed per the software.... I dont know what else to do though

I can not input a US address.

Bigmouth
Dec 11th, 2006, 12:39 PM
im thinking of going over to my local costco tomorrow and picking one of these up, but do you need a membership to buy from this company, ive never bought from them before.

Yes you need to be a member to buy anything there. But you can join the club right after you walk into the warehouse.

I did a Staples GC repurchase today and to my surprise that the $10 off $100 coupon worked out to be $20 off now when the CSR keyed in them. So now it's totally $40 off and with GCs it's about $180 something plus tax. quite a saving so I don't think I will bother Costco for now.

mikesxf
Dec 11th, 2006, 07:22 PM
Any idea how to get the US maps to work?

They installed per the software.... I dont know what else to do though

I can not input a US address.

because 310s is canadian unit, so by default it takes address as canadian

but you can switch by doing so
address -> Other city -> Change state -> Change Country

Jrawk
Dec 12th, 2006, 07:38 AM
because 310s is canadian unit, so by default it takes address as canadian

but you can switch by doing so
address -> Other city -> Change state -> Change Country

That doesnt work for me.

I only have the option to choose Provinces, and there are no States.

ekoc
Dec 12th, 2006, 09:20 PM
That doesnt work for me.

I only have the option to choose Provinces, and there are no States.

Go to settings->Select Map
Select USARoads

Jrawk
Dec 12th, 2006, 10:44 PM
Go to settings->Select Map
Select USARoads

I do that, and i will see some of the US map blink on the screen for a second, then it puts me right back to my current location, and i still cant enter in any address in the US.

imran909
Dec 13th, 2006, 11:40 AM
I just recieved my mio310s from Costco and it appears there are no AC charger supplied. How the heck I am supposed to charge the device? Do I need to turn on my car to charge this all the times?

IMI

TurboTronix
Dec 13th, 2006, 11:42 AM
I just recieved my mio310s from Costco and it appears there are no AC charger supplied. How the heck I am supposed to charge the device? Do I need to turn on my car to charge this all the times?

IMI

Mine came with USB, Car Charger, and AC charger, not to say all software and car mount...great deal!

torowl
Dec 13th, 2006, 01:45 PM
I just recieved my mio310s from Costco and it appears there are no AC charger supplied. How the heck I am supposed to charge the device? Do I need to turn on my car to charge this all the times?

IMI

You charge it from your pc using USB cable. But it is slow...

duster
Dec 13th, 2006, 02:21 PM
I'm wondering...why do you guys all need a GPS?!

Don't you know where is the supermarket near you? Don't know that Alberta is -> WEST from Manitoba?

:|

Except for some precise uses, I think GPS (the car version with streets map I mean...nothing to do with the deep forest / lake version) is just big hype.

I'm travelling in a new BIG city how many times a year?! Damn, I'll just buy a 2$ regular map then.

But eh...I'm not judging you, you do what you want with your $$$. But I still don't see why I'm supposed to need a GPS in my car.

stepper17
Dec 13th, 2006, 02:27 PM
Is there a such thing as a GPS that can be used in the car for maps as well as the same GPS be used for hunting or fishing?? If so, will this GPS do the trick??

sfu_lifer
Dec 13th, 2006, 02:34 PM
I'm wondering...why do you guys all need a GPS?!

Don't you know where is the supermarket near you? Don't know that Alberta is -> WEST from Manitoba?

:|

Except for some precise uses, I think GPS (the car version with streets map I mean...nothing to do with the deep forest / lake version) is just big hype.

I'm travelling in a new BIG city how many times a year?! Damn, I'll just buy a 2$ regular map then.

But eh...I'm not judging you, you do what you want with your $$$. But I still don't see why I'm supposed to need a GPS in my car.

You may not but some of us are directionally challenged and maps just confuse us even more. Plus it's nice to have a navigator when you're driving alone giving you directions (and usually good ones too). Much faster.
It's not about judging but be thankful you can navigate properly :D

TurboTronix
Dec 13th, 2006, 02:35 PM
lol...

Ever since I got a GPS (a couple yrs ago) and now introduced this one to my parents (since they needed something simple to use) we LOVE it.

You are generalizing the maps...there TONS of roads and TONS of routes...GPS makes life just WAY simpler. Alberta is not one big street...lol...oh boy...

Once we went to Vermont and we wanted to find the nearest Price Chopper. In was already dark outside and it was our very first visit to Vermont. So I checked the grocery stores, typed Price Choppers and there was from the nearest one to our location all the Price Choppers in town. If it wasn't for the gps I would have probably never found it since it ended up being several routes here there left, right, etc etc...

So hype is what I call the iPod, GPS is a necessity to whoever loves traveling to new places and discovering the world with ease :)


I'm wondering...why do you guys all need a GPS?!

Don't you know where is the supermarket near you? Don't know that Alberta is -> WEST from Manitoba?

:|

Except for some precise uses, I think GPS (the car version with streets map I mean...nothing to do with the deep forest / lake version) is just big hype.

I'm travelling in a new BIG city how many times a year?! Damn, I'll just buy a 2$ regular map then.

But eh...I'm not judging you, you do what you want with your $$$. But I still don't see why I'm supposed to need a GPS in my car.

icehome
Dec 13th, 2006, 02:36 PM
I'm wondering...why do you guys all need a GPS?!



Because ... seriously, don't you think it's a good deal? :)

duster
Dec 13th, 2006, 03:35 PM
Because ... seriously, don't you think it's a good deal? :)


Ok, yah right...we're RFDers...can't pass beside a good deal! :D

But I'll pass myself

mre
Dec 13th, 2006, 03:51 PM
I just recieved my mio310s from Costco and it appears there are no AC charger supplied. How the heck I am supposed to charge the device? Do I need to turn on my car to charge this all the times?

IMI

Does the box say that the AC charger is included? From what I gather they stopped supplying the charger with the newer units that have the Miomap 3.2 software.

Jrawk
Dec 13th, 2006, 03:56 PM
I'm wondering...why do you guys all need a GPS?!

Don't you know where is the supermarket near you? Don't know that Alberta is -> WEST from Manitoba?

:|

Except for some precise uses, I think GPS (the car version with streets map I mean...nothing to do with the deep forest / lake version) is just big hype.

I'm travelling in a new BIG city how many times a year?! Damn, I'll just buy a 2$ regular map then.

But eh...I'm not judging you, you do what you want with your $$$. But I still don't see why I'm supposed to need a GPS in my car.

Try driving a car and reading a map in a downtown core of a busy city..

Then you will know why we bought a GPS.

Edit: Oh, and next time you drive around with a map, try asking it where the nearest gas station is. :(

sz1999
Dec 13th, 2006, 04:01 PM
I'm wondering...why do you guys all need a GPS?!

Don't you know where is the supermarket near you? Don't know that Alberta is -> WEST from Manitoba?

:|

Except for some precise uses, I think GPS (the car version with streets map I mean...nothing to do with the deep forest / lake version) is just big hype.

I'm travelling in a new BIG city how many times a year?! Damn, I'll just buy a 2$ regular map then.

But eh...I'm not judging you, you do what you want with your $$$. But I still don't see why I'm supposed to need a GPS in my car.

Hope you are just kidding, otherwise you are nominated as the laughstock of the month.

TurboTronix
Dec 13th, 2006, 07:59 PM
How can I load this from the start? Like i noticed if you soft reset you must make sure to reset GAPI or else the touch screen won't work well...

Is there an alternative? Like is there a way to make the C310 work just like it did with the other version (boot up directly with no problem to v3.2)?

Not to take away from what you posted here, but I had some issues with the install, so I just thought that I would revise it a little to make it answer the questions I had while installing it.

NOTE: You will need to download the files from the above links kindly provided by chris ng.

1. Extract the .rar file into a directory on your computer
2. Rename the \My Flash Disk\MioMap to \My Flash Disk\Destinator
3. Create a directory on your MIO called \My Flash Disk\MioMap
4. Copy all the files and directories from the .rar into the \My Flash Disk\MioMap directory.
5. Copy the Canada.fbl file into your \My Flash Disk\MioMap\maps directory
6. Locate the GAPI_for_HPC_v307.cab file in your \My Flash Disk\MioMap directory and run it. This will install GAPI to your Mio desktop
7. Once installed, launch GAPI from your desktop.
8. Remove all checkmarks from the options menu expect "Frambuffer Cache".
9. Click the "Select Device" box.
10. From the drop down list, choose the first "Mio C210 CE 4.2, 320x240" and click on the "Select Device" button below.
12. Once ready to run MioMap, change the display orientation from "270" to "0" in the bottom left corner, then click on Save & Exit.
13. The screen will now rotate which changes the orientation.
14. Locate and launch "Setup.exe" in your \My Flash Disk\MioMap directory
15. Setup will now run and install.
16. The application should automatically run, and will prompt you to accept the licensing agreement.
17. Next, choose the desired language and voice.
18. You're done!

Some observations:
This software is much more detailed and appears to have a lot more options, including an exit button.
However, as for being user friendly, it definitely is not.
I am having a hard time with trying to figure out this software.

The Destinator was so simple. 2 clicks and you are entering a destination.
This one, its like jumping through hoops..

Does anyone have a manual for this app?
Also, what about the American maps. I plan on heading to the states.


Thanks!

typo
Dec 13th, 2006, 08:01 PM
LOL! too much whopin' StOOpleS :cheesygri

michael1996
Dec 13th, 2006, 08:02 PM
pm with costco

http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290806&cm_mmc=CNEmail_EN_86-_-Banner04-_-4-_-MioC310_CNEmail_EN_86

ipfree
Dec 13th, 2006, 08:10 PM
I'm wondering...why do you guys all need a GPS?!

Don't you know where is the supermarket near you? Don't know that Alberta is -> WEST from Manitoba?

:|

Except for some precise uses, I think GPS (the car version with streets map I mean...nothing to do with the deep forest / lake version) is just big hype.

I'm travelling in a new BIG city how many times a year?! Damn, I'll just buy a 2$ regular map then.

But eh...I'm not judging you, you do what you want with your $$$. But I still don't see why I'm supposed to need a GPS in my car.

Their was an article in the news a couple of weeks ago about a Korean family travelling in Oregon - They missed their turn and ended up trapped in snow on a remote road for over a week. The husband/father died trying to find help on foot. GPS sure would have been handy for them.

I have my own business and use my GPS all the time for housecalls for my clients. Sure beats having to carry maps for multiple cities in the 905/GTA and reading them while driving.

ipfree
Dec 13th, 2006, 08:12 PM
Try driving a car and reading a map in a downtown core of a busy city..

Then you will know why we bought a GPS.

Edit: Oh, and next time you drive around with a map, try asking it where the nearest gas station is. :(

The only problem is that GPS usually can't get a signal in most downtown cores of big cities.

MoonDoggy
Dec 13th, 2006, 08:26 PM
The only problem is that GPS usually can't get a signal in most downtown cores of big cities.

It depends what type of chipset you have in your gps. The SiFR star III chipset certainly will do much better than the others (but nothing is perfect).

ekoc
Dec 13th, 2006, 09:11 PM
I do that, and i will see some of the US map blink on the screen for a second, then it puts me right back to my current location, and i still cant enter in any address in the US.

You need to download USMap in storage card.
Select address, you can set the state now

torowl
Dec 13th, 2006, 09:31 PM
Is there a such thing as a GPS that can be used in the car for maps as well as the same GPS be used for hunting or fishing?? If so, will this GPS do the trick??

Yes, this gps will do it, but need to unlock and custimize. Install OziExplorer, you can use it off road. Plus, you can use it as portiable media player, mp3 player, photo viewer...

Just like you spend $250 for a pocket pc + gps.

torowl
Dec 13th, 2006, 09:37 PM
How can I load this from the start? Like i noticed if you soft reset you must make sure to reset GAPI or else the touch screen won't work well...

Is there an alternative? Like is there a way to make the C310 work just like it did with the other version (boot up directly with no problem to v3.2)?

See my post #297, that will do it.
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4293798&postcount=297

duster
Dec 13th, 2006, 10:22 PM
Their was an article in the news a couple of weeks ago about a Korean family travelling in Oregon - They missed their turn and ended up trapped in snow on a remote road for over a week. The husband/father died trying to find help on foot. GPS sure would have been handy for them.

I have my own business and use my GPS all the time for housecalls for my clients. Sure beats having to carry maps for multiple cities in the 905/GTA and reading them while driving.

lollll

Come on! are you serious?! This is your point? I'll go buy a parachute so! Just in case...It's not funny that this guy died, but it's a weird assertion you've made there...

I know GPS are interesting, useful when you have one...but necessary? I mean...what did you make before...you were always lost? Crying like a baby, asking for your mother on the side of pavement?

I'm not bashing, I know things don't need to be absolutly necessary to be interesting..do we really need iPod, HTPC..? No, for sure. But we have it, it's just fun to have.

I was just wondering why GPS are so popular...'cause it's not kind of gadget I PERSONNALY think is useful in a day to day basis (except for precise uses like I said before...your point about housecall is such a good answer).

Ok...I'm not living in GTA nor GVR or big metropolis like that... I usually go to the same few gas stations, I don't need a GPS to show me where it is...If I'm going somewhere, I usually know where I'm going and it's not the first time so...and for the few times I go to a new place, I prepare my trip, ask someone, look at a paper map...

So, for me, a car GPS is hype...but hype doesn't mean useless, just a cool gadget not really necessary!

Amen! ;)

P.S. don't hurt, don't hurt!!! :cheesygri

duster
Dec 13th, 2006, 10:34 PM
Yes, this gps will do it, but need to unlock and custimize. Install OziExplorer, you can use it off road. Plus, you can use it as portiable media player, mp3 player, photo viewer...

Just like you spend $250 for a pocket pc + gps.

Do you really think a Pocket PC is supposed to be a simple media player?! :eek:

Ok...I'm out...

TurboTronix
Dec 13th, 2006, 10:52 PM
The incident that the guy used about the father who lost his life because he got lost is a very good point made, how can you even debate on how a GPS is invaluable in this case...

Anyhow as I can see from your comments, you are someone who is anti-technology so following the sunsets should do you good :)

I am not blasting and I am not into "hype" stuff, but I do believe GPS is one of the best things ever created.

Now as far as PDA, well the Mio C310 does allow that but its not the best way to have a PDA. But how can you go wrong when its 240$...

I bought it as a gift for my mom who is a CLSA nurse and she is always on the road going from patient to patient, she just loves this device and thats all I wanted.

Why follow the "hype" and buy a car, just walk from point A to B, this argument can go lower you know ;)

There are things that you need and there are people who need them. We are not all the same and we all have our needs.

Do you really think a Pocket PC is supposed to be a simple media player?! :eek:

Ok...I'm out...

UrbanPoet
Dec 13th, 2006, 10:55 PM
Do you really think a Pocket PC is supposed to be a simple media player?! :eek:

Ok...I'm out...

it could be if u want it too...

duster
Dec 13th, 2006, 11:21 PM
The incident that the guy used about the father who lost his life because he got lost is a very good point made, how can you even debate on how a GPS is invaluable in this case...

Anyhow as I can see from your comments, you are someone who is anti-technology so following the sunsets should do you good :)

I am not blasting and I am not into "hype" stuff, but I do believe GPS is one of the best things ever created.

Now as far as PDA, well the Mio C310 does allow that but its not the best way to have a PDA. But how can you go wrong when its 240$...

I bought it as a gift for my mom who is a CLSA nurse and she is always on the road going from patient to patient, she just loves this device and thats all I wanted.

Why follow the "hype" and buy a car, just walk from point A to B, this argument can go lower you know ;)

There are things that you need and there are people who need them. We are not all the same and we all have our needs.




Calm down...read my post carefully...

I'm not anti-techno...:| I do have a lots of techno stuff, I'm a real RFDer...;)

You just can't say a GPS is like a seatbelt...it can be useful, but you can't take ONE CASE to justify its necessity...This proper case is badluck, misunderstanding and foreign issue...nothing to do with the necessity to have a GPS.

You don't have to justify why YOU, or your wife, father, uncle...do need a GPS...I already know that in some case, it can be not just useful, but a very great tool, almost necessary. Like many other tools for some people/job. Like a parachute... ;)

My only question is why do WE supposed to need a car GPS? This part is hype for me. I said "WE" due to the popularity of all threads about GPS...just like everyone need one. But I still think that majority of us, even if it,s cool to have one, do not really need a car GPS. For the same reason I've explained before...do we ALL really go to new places often? Is it really risky do travel without a GPS? In deep forest, yes! In OUR cities, I don't think so...

And it's not like if a GPS can give us some funny moment like a MP3 player, portable DVD player when we already know where we go to (the most part of our driver life...).

Is it a crime to buy one anyway? Damn no! I'm just in a wondering mood...And maybe it's just me.

Peace on earth! ;)

duster
Dec 13th, 2006, 11:27 PM
it could be if u want it too...

The problem is:

A Pocket PC CAN be a simple media player...

But a simple player CAN'T be named a Pocket PC...

So even if you mod this GPS, it will never become a Pocket PC + GPS...

BoxsterS
Dec 13th, 2006, 11:52 PM
His name was James Kim and some of you may recall that he was on the Screen Savers before moving on to CNET. As for the debate as to whether GPS would have helped or not, consider this - Both NAVtech and TeleAtlas both recommend the quickest way from Grants Pass to Gold Beach is via a logging road called Bear Camp road (Merlin-Galice Rd). Unfortunately, this is a treacherous route in the winter and even the locals avoid it. The link below takes you to the driving directions recommended by Google Maps:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&saddr=grants+pass+oregon&daddr=gold+beach+oregon&sll=42.4075,-124.420556&sspn=0.173393,0.338173&ie=UTF8&z=9&om=1

This is the route the Kim's took and ultimately led to the death of James Kim. The correct route is to drive into California and then back up to Oregon via the 101. Yahoo maps gives you the correct directions and had they followed the Yahoo map route James would definitely be alive. A GPS system would have also recommended the incorrect route because technically it is the shortest route, but it's not the correct one especially for tourists.

TurboTronix
Dec 14th, 2006, 09:06 AM
Nothing is perfect, yahoo has its glitches (I have had the chance to discover)in other locations and can also lead to an unwanted route. The best thing is to have several route options given to you.

In any case the GPS comes in handy at the point of someone being lost as well. Kim could have found the nearest location afterwards using the GPS (like a gas station, houses, mall, using POI something regular maps won't know).

I for once rather have a GPS in hand at any time when I travel, 2 heads are better than one.

His name was James Kim and some of you may recall that he was on the Screen Savers before moving on to CNET. As for the debate as to whether GPS would have helped or not, consider this - Both NAVtech and TeleAtlas both recommend the quickest way from Grants Pass to Gold Beach is via a logging road called Bear Camp road (Merlin-Galice Rd). Unfortunately, this is a treacherous route in the winter and even the locals avoid it. The link below takes you to the driving directions recommended by Google Maps:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&saddr=grants+pass+oregon&daddr=gold+beach+oregon&sll=42.4075,-124.420556&sspn=0.173393,0.338173&ie=UTF8&z=9&om=1

This is the route the Kim's took and ultimately led to the death of James Kim. The correct route is to drive into California and then back up to Oregon via the 101. Yahoo maps gives you the correct directions and had they followed the Yahoo map route James would definitely be alive. A GPS system would have also recommended the incorrect route because technically it is the shortest route, but it's not the correct one especially for tourists.

michael1996
Dec 15th, 2006, 09:00 AM
iGuidance》(iNav iGuidance 2.1.3)[ISO] is out.

Goldilocks
Dec 15th, 2006, 10:29 AM
I just got mine from Costco. I will be returning it. This thing seems to be obsessed with Brampton and Halton Region (not that there's anything wrong with that :D ).

I put in city Toronto, or North York, or Vaughan and ask it to find an address at Bathurst and Steeles (1131 Steeles Ave. W.) and it sends me to 1131 Steeles Ave in Brampton. Same for 1111 Steeles, etc, etc. These are all real addresses that have been around for many, many years at least 25 years.

I tried putting in the postal code and no difference it still sends me to Brampton.

Under POI I asked for the Toronto Zoo, it finds the Bowmanville Zoo and all kinds of minor zoo's but no Toronto Zoo.

I called Customer Support and after a loooooong wait, he confirmed that the only 1131 Steeles Ave. W. that he has in the database is indeed in Bramptom.
He checked about the Toronto Zoo and no there's no such thing in the database either. He said there will be newer maps in the spring.

It's got version 3.2.

So I'm giving up. I've got the Garmin C320 when The Source had it on sale a while back for myself and I like it, this was going to be for my dad, so I'll order the C330 from BB that's on-sale now.

If anyone in the GTA wants this one, please PM, and I will not return it.

Bigmouth
Dec 15th, 2006, 10:35 AM
So even if you mod this GPS, it will never become a Pocket PC + GPS...

You should better say this after you try this thing. It's just a GPS system running on Window CE platform. So after mod it is a PDA that can run any software developed for W CE. If you don't think that's PDA, then probably you need to give your own definition of PDA.

dav1209
Dec 15th, 2006, 11:31 AM
staples back in stock

mattdg
Dec 15th, 2006, 11:37 AM
Just ordered this from Staples by phone. They price matched the $259.99 from Costco.ca, and I was able to stack the $20 and $10 coupon as well. I got the unit for a final price of $229.99! Great deal! They still have them in stock from what I can see. I would suggest placing a phone order so you can get the price match!

Carpe Diem
Dec 15th, 2006, 12:04 PM
Just ordered this from Staples by phone. They price matched the $259.99 from Costco.ca, and I was able to stack the $20 and $10 coupon as well. I got the unit for a final price of $229.99! Great deal! They still have them in stock from what I can see. I would suggest placing a phone order so you can get the price match!


What # did you call...Having a hard time finding it?

mattdg
Dec 15th, 2006, 12:10 PM
Try calling 1-800-668-6888, that is their order number. They will most likely have to get a mangers approval for using both coupons at the same time, but just use the argument that you can stack the coupons online.

In case you don't have the coupon codes, here they are:

84218 - $20 off $150 or more
84224 - $10 off $100 or more

The guy I ordered from was new and he had to talk to his manager to get an override or something. They wouldn't give me the 10% difference discount on the price match because costco.ca is a wholesale company, but they still honoured the $259.99 price match.

Carpe Diem
Dec 15th, 2006, 12:12 PM
Thanks for the info! :)

mblunt
Dec 15th, 2006, 02:37 PM
Thanks for the info! :)

That may have been a one-off situation... BEST buy would NOT match Costo's price because it requires a membership. Also Costco.ca is sold out of the C310 so you are unable to locate it on their website anymore.

I purchased it online with only the $30 coupon code, no need to stack. Let me know if anyone else got a price match.

FYI 164 units left @ staples.ca

mblunt
Dec 15th, 2006, 03:01 PM
That may have been a one-off situation... BEST buy would NOT match Costo's price because it requires a membership. Also Costco.ca is sold out of the C310 so you are unable to locate it on their website anymore.

I purchased it online with only the $30 coupon code, no need to stack. Let me know if anyone else got a price match.

FYI 164 units left @ staples.ca

Sorry correct my last post the price match WORKS!!! He even honoured 10% off the costco price so I got $12.45 credit on the order that I just made this morning. So it worked out to $265 tax in!

259.99 Price match
minus 10% of the $10 difference (only $1)
$30 Coupon #81741

When on the phone with the representive I realized that Staples applies the coupon AFTER they charge the tax which is kind of a rip off.

mattdg
Dec 15th, 2006, 03:32 PM
My order worked out to $262 and change taxes in with the price match, coupons and taxes.

Not a bad deal at all.

mblunt
Dec 15th, 2006, 04:00 PM
My order worked out to $262 and change taxes in with the price match, coupons and taxes.

Not a bad deal at all.

Ya your right, I don't think the guy knew what he was talking about. The coupon was applied before tax so...

259.99 - $31 *1.14 = $261.04

Both myself and a guy at work purchased one. They will both be delivered to our work Monday between 9-5.

robbie80
Dec 15th, 2006, 04:29 PM
That may have been a one-off situation... BEST buy would NOT match Costo's price because it requires a membership. Also Costco.ca is sold out of the C310 so you are unable to locate it on their website anymore.

I purchased it online with only the $30 coupon code, no need to stack. Let me know if anyone else got a price match.

FYI 164 units left @ staples.ca

I called Staples at noon and I was told this item was out of stock. I checked the website and it says out of stock as well. Does it matter where I live when ordering online or by phone?

mattdg
Dec 15th, 2006, 04:40 PM
Ya your right, I don't think the guy knew what he was talking about. The coupon was applied before tax so...

259.99 - $31 *1.14 = $261.04

Both myself and a guy at work purchased one. They will both be delivered to our work Monday between 9-5.

Yes, mine will be delivered to work Monday as well. Can't wait to start playing with it.

mattdg
Dec 15th, 2006, 04:44 PM
I called Staples at noon and I was told this item was out of stock. I checked the website and it says out of stock as well. Does it matter where I live when ordering online or by phone?

Just checked the Staples.ca website, and it is still in stock as of 4:45pm. Not sure why it would have been showing out of stock at that time. Try again and see what happens.

robbie80
Dec 15th, 2006, 04:49 PM
I called Staples at noon and I was told this item was out of stock. I checked the website and it says out of stock as well. Does it matter where I live when ordering online or by phone?

Called Staples again. I live in the West and this item is out of stock in Calgary warehouse. And I cannot order from Ontario warehouse.

dav1209
Dec 15th, 2006, 07:12 PM
i got one myself also get PM with costco....just mention costco price and they will match the price....
damn US....they got the same unit from staple on black friday for only $150 US

mblunt
Dec 15th, 2006, 07:19 PM
Called Staples again. I live in the West and this item is out of stock in Calgary warehouse. And I cannot order from Ontario warehouse.

Sorry to hear that. Do you know anyone who lives in Ontario that can pick one up for you? Sounds kinda strange, you should just ask to pay shipping from Ontario... whats the big deal it's all Canada.

FYI 151 of 200 units left as of 7:20pm EST.

jochooi
Dec 15th, 2006, 07:32 PM
i got one myself also get PM with costco....just mention costco price and they will match the price....
damn US....they got the same unit from staple on black friday for only $150 US

Ahem, actually they 'got' the 1 or 2 gig version. We 'got' the half gig.

magicBC
Dec 15th, 2006, 07:51 PM
Ordered! I need it for work, and what pushed me into buying was the possibility of hacking- fairly well documented on http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=72525&whichpage=1
The RFD effect took me in again. Oh well.

ekoc
Dec 16th, 2006, 01:16 AM
does anyone get Mio C310s with MioMap 3.2 from Staples?

magicBC
Dec 16th, 2006, 07:47 PM
I'm thinking the Mio will not come with an AC charger. Does anyone have one that can tell me the specs- so I can buy one, or perhaps this AC to USB will work-

http://contents.fifthunit.com/html/products.5th/images/sku_0039_4.jpg

http://contents.fifthunit.com/html/products.5th/sku.39.html

etcbq
Dec 16th, 2006, 07:59 PM
I'm thinking the Mio will not come with an AC charger.
It does come with a charger, at least the one I returned to Costco did.

Aske001
Dec 16th, 2006, 08:52 PM
So I'm totally confused after reading this long thread.

Which one do I want, the Costco one or the Staples one? Are they really different? Which one is better and why?

magicBC
Dec 16th, 2006, 09:13 PM
It does come with a charger, at least the one I returned to Costco did.

I'm hoping you're right but:

Included in the Box:
Car mount and holder
USB cable
Application CD, Map DVD

rf134a
Dec 16th, 2006, 09:43 PM
I'm thinking the Mio will not come with an AC charger. Does anyone have one that can tell me the specs- so I can buy one, or perhaps this AC to USB will work-


My adapter says 5v, 1A. Standard USB is 5v, 500ma.

magicBC
Dec 16th, 2006, 10:08 PM
My adapter says 5v, 1A. Standard USB is 5v, 500ma.

Thanks rf134a. this one, rated at 1000ma, should be OK, if needed.

http://contents.fifthunit.com/html/products.5th/images/sku_0037_1.jpg

mblunt
Dec 17th, 2006, 10:20 AM
I'm hoping you're right but:

Included in the Box:
Car mount and holder
USB cable
Application CD, Map DVD

It should come with an AC adaptor and in-car charger

http://www.miogps.com/CA/products_C310s2_features.htm

http://www.marketnews.ca/handsonreview_detail.asp?nid=32

The C310 is available in an American version for a little more than a hundred bucks extra, but that model comes pre-loaded with U.S. maps that requires 2GB ROM; four times that of the Canadian spec model. The units are otherwise identical, and either kit includes a 12V and an AC recharger, USB cable, software, and a mounting system.

mixpdf
Dec 17th, 2006, 11:25 AM
It should come with an AC adaptor and in-car charger

http://www.miogps.com/CA/products_C310s2_features.htmYour first link shows that only the in-car charger is included. My Costco unit with v3.2 software did not have the AC charger.

Aske001
Dec 17th, 2006, 11:46 AM
So this is from the Mio web site:

"Question: What is the difference between the C310, C310s, C310x and the C310sx?

Answer:

The C310/C310s have software licensed from Destinator Technologies. The C310x and C310sx have software licensed from I-Go Software.

The C310 has 2 Gb of Flash Memory, 64 Mb RAM and has both the US and Canada maps installed.

The C310s and C310sx have 512 Mb of Flash, 64 Mb of RAM and have only the Canada map installed, but has the US maps on the DVD. A memory card would be required to install the US maps.

The C310x has 1 Gb Flash Memory, 64 Mb RAM and has only US maps installed. The Canadian maps were not included in the original release, but will be included in the update. * There was a limited number of introductory devices that had 2 Gb of memory installed."

Neither Costco nor Staples specify which model variation they are shipping, although technically since they call it a C310, it should have 2 Gb memory - but both further specify that their version has 512 Mb memory with Canadian maps only preloaded, so it's probably a C310s or sx. So an additional SD card is required in order to load U.S. maps.

etcbq
Dec 17th, 2006, 11:56 AM
The C310 is available in an American version for a little more than a hundred bucks extra, but that model comes pre-loaded with U.S. maps that requires 2GB ROM; four times that of the Canadian spec model. The units are otherwise identical, and either kit includes a 12V and an AC recharger, USB cable, software, and a mounting system.
I don't know where that came from, but I can tell you that US Staples currently has their version for US$199.99 So doing th math, it's definitely not "a little more than a hundred bucks extra"!

mblunt
Dec 17th, 2006, 01:27 PM
So this is from the Mio web site:

"Question: What is the difference between the C310, C310s, C310x and the C310sx?

Answer:

The C310/C310s have software licensed from Destinator Technologies. The C310x and C310sx have software licensed from I-Go Software.

The C310 has 2 Gb of Flash Memory, 64 Mb RAM and has both the US and Canada maps installed.

The C310s and C310sx have 512 Mb of Flash, 64 Mb of RAM and have only the Canada map installed, but has the US maps on the DVD. A memory card would be required to install the US maps.

The C310x has 1 Gb Flash Memory, 64 Mb RAM and has only US maps installed. The Canadian maps were not included in the original release, but will be included in the update. * There was a limited number of introductory devices that had 2 Gb of memory installed."

Neither Costco nor Staples specify which model variation they are shipping, although technically since they call it a C310, it should have 2 Gb memory - but both further specify that their version has 512 Mb memory with Canadian maps only preloaded, so it's probably a C310s or sx. So an additional SD card is required in order to load U.S. maps.

Ok well I get mine tomorrow so I'll post exactly what it comes with. I will make a stink if it doesn't come with the chargers! I'm 100% sure though it will come with 512meg internal memory and canada maps pre-loaded w/ US maps on DVD.

mblunt
Dec 17th, 2006, 01:29 PM
I don't know where that came from, but I can tell you that US Staples currently has their version for US$199.99 So doing th math, it's definitely not "a little more than a hundred bucks extra"!

That article was done back in July when the units were over $450

Bat1983
Dec 17th, 2006, 02:58 PM
Can someone tell me how good are the canadian maps? Is it only major cities or does it include little towns and back roads? Thanks!

And is anyone considering getting it from Costco for just $10 bucks more? I mean to me getting it from Costco makes more sense with their return policy? Any thoughts?

mblunt
Dec 17th, 2006, 03:27 PM
Can someone tell me how good are the canadian maps? Is it only major cities or does it include little towns and back roads? Thanks!

And is anyone considering getting it from Costco for just $10 bucks more? I mean to me getting it from Costco makes more sense with their return policy? Any thoughts?

Costco's Price: 259.99 * 1.14 = $296.39

Staples Price (after coupon & price match) $259.00 - $30 *1.14 = $261.06

We're talking about $35.33 difference here not $10.00. Also Costco delivers within 7-10 business days, Staples 1 business day.

They are the same units I assure you, one is not better than the other.

a in yul
Dec 17th, 2006, 03:58 PM
Costco's Price: 259.99 * 1.14 = $296.39

Staples Price (after coupon & price match) $259.00 - $30 *1.14 = $261.06

We're talking about $35.33 difference here not $10.00. Also Costco delivers within 7-10 business days, Staples 1 business day.

They are the same units I assure you, one is not better than the other.

with all due respect, i must disagree for the following reasons;

35$ dif for a product with a shelf life/min usage of 2 years, hence 17.50$/yr for peace of mind insurance a la extended warrantee

this was the logic i put into play when deciding where to buy, and by the way, i got my delivery in less then 5 days..

to each his/her own i guess..

ekoc
Dec 17th, 2006, 09:16 PM
I got iGuidance V3 working on it, follow the instructions here (http://johntam.com/tiki-index.php?page=Mio+c310x+GPS#Hack_the_Mio_c310x). I used the doclist.dll from "Pack Dll specifiques"
The Sirf III GPS chip on this unit is very good, picks up more satellites than my Nuvi.

Would like to ask you how to set up gps?
I follow the instruction from the link in your thread.
Successfull install IGuidance but there is no signal from gps!
Thanks

torowl
Dec 18th, 2006, 12:24 AM
Tools > GPS Options > COM Port > COM 2
Tools > GPS Options > Baud Rate > 4800

midget_man
Dec 18th, 2006, 01:50 AM
If anyone has experience with this Mio, can you comment on which unit you think is better, the Mio referred to in this thread or this similarly priced unit:

http://reviews.cnet.com/Magellan_RoadMate_300/4505-3430_7-31207497.html?tag=return

http://www.bluewatersecurityprofessionals.com/Magellan_Roadmate_300.jpg

Goldilocks
Dec 18th, 2006, 08:05 AM
Can someone tell me how good are the canadian maps? Is it only major cities or does it include little towns and back roads? Thanks!


As I've already posted before on this thread, I had problems with the v3.2 unit from Costco finding main artery - Toronto addresses and POI's. Have since returned it and kept my Garmin instead.

ekoc
Dec 18th, 2006, 09:08 AM
Tools > GPS Options > COM Port > COM 2
Tools > GPS Options > Baud Rate > 4800
Thank torowl
But how can I access Tools? I did not find it in IGuidance as well as PPC?
mio C310s does not have bluetooth. Do I miss something?

torowl
Dec 18th, 2006, 12:44 PM
There is a menu bar at bottom of the screen, when you run IGuidance. I think you need hide the taskbar to see it.

mblunt
Dec 18th, 2006, 01:42 PM
I'm thinking the Mio will not come with an AC charger. Does anyone have one that can tell me the specs- so I can buy one, or perhaps this AC to USB will work-

http://contents.fifthunit.com/html/products.5th/images/sku_0039_4.jpg

http://contents.fifthunit.com/html/products.5th/sku.39.html

Ok guys & gals.... I just received my Mio C310s. To clarify the canadian model comes in C310s & C310sx the US version C310 & C310x.

The one shipped to me today from staples was a C310s, it had everything the mio website said it would including car charger and USB Cable. There is no AC adaptor included, it can only be charged via USB @ home. This sounds different than what Costco is offering..... apparently it has an AC charger... if someone can confirm if this is a Mini USB w/ AC connector on the end please do.

Perhaps Costco is shipping another version other than the C310s... but it's strange that it would have an AC adaptor and the staples one does not.

Now possible options... I have a Razr phone and a 30 Gig IPOD.... both use similar chargers so I may be able to use the USB -> AC adaptor... problem is that the IPOD adaptor says output DC 5.0V 500mA where the MIO requires DC 5.0V 1A. So I may need to charge my unit only through USB, which kinda sucks.

Anyone who orders from Costco, please let me know what it comes with.

ekoc
Dec 18th, 2006, 01:46 PM
There is a menu bar at bottom of the screen, when you run IGuidance. I think you need hide the taskbar to see it.
Thanks for your help

mblunt
Dec 18th, 2006, 01:50 PM
Ok guys & gals.... I just received my Mio C310s. To clarify the canadian model comes in C310s & C310sx the US version C310 & C310x.

The one shipped to me today from staples was a C310s, it had everything the mio website said it would including car charger and USB Cable. There is no AC adaptor included, it can only be charged via USB @ home. This sounds different than what Costco is offering..... apparently it has an AC charger... if someone can confirm if this is a Mini USB w/ AC connector on the end please do.

Perhaps Costco is shipping another version other than the C310s... but it's strange that it would have an AC adaptor and the staples one does not.

Now possible options... I have a Razr phone and a 30 Gig IPOD.... both use similar chargers so I may be able to use the USB -> AC adaptor... problem is that the IPOD adaptor says output DC 5.0V 500mA where the MIO requires DC 5.0V 1A. So I may need to charge my unit only through USB, which kinda sucks.

Anyone who orders from Costco, please let me know what it comes with.

Ok I just noticed something strange... on the box is says Mio C310s but on the unit it says Mio C310sx. I guess they are using old packaging for their new units, and get this... the instructions call it a C310x!!!

mixpdf
Dec 18th, 2006, 02:10 PM
Anyone who orders from Costco, please let me know what it comes with.I can confirm that my unit from Costco did not come with an AC charger. It was not mentioned on the box and it was not included inside.

Bugs119
Dec 18th, 2006, 02:32 PM
Ok I just noticed something strange... on the box is says Mio C310s but on the unit it says Mio C310sx. I guess they are using old packaging for their new units, and get this... the instructions call it a C310x!!!

So, is it a 2G rom unit? or it just 512M version?

RRKnight
Dec 18th, 2006, 03:06 PM
Ok I just noticed something strange... on the box is says Mio C310s but on the unit it says Mio C310sx. I guess they are using old packaging for their new units, and get this... the instructions call it a C310x!!!

I'm pretty sure it's still going to be a 512mb because it's a C310SX not C310X(2G US model)

Which of the softwares or maps is better for this mio?
Mio 3.2
Mio 2.2
iGuidance
TomTom

rf134a
Dec 18th, 2006, 03:50 PM
I'm pretty sure it's still going to be a 512mb because it's a C310SX not C310X(2G US model)

Which of the softwares or maps is better for this mio?
Mio 3.2
Mio 2.2
iGuidance
TomTom

Actually, the 310 2X is the 2GB model. The 310x only has 1GB.

RRKnight
Dec 18th, 2006, 05:43 PM
Nevermind, I got it up now.

RRKnight
Dec 18th, 2006, 07:49 PM
OK, the one I got from Staples is loaded with V3.2 and I can't seem to sync it with Activesync. It would not recognize the device. Is anyone else having this problem?

ra2
Dec 18th, 2006, 07:51 PM
After you hacked it and converted it into Windows CE OS, would it be possible to install other applications that supports Windows CE such as Word/Excel and games etc?

Would it be a fully functional PDA or just GPS+MP3+MP4 player?

Thank you!

TurboTronix
Dec 18th, 2006, 08:33 PM
After you hacked it and converted it into Windows CE OS, would it be possible to install other applications that supports Windows CE such as Word/Excel and games etc?

Would it be a fully functional PDA or just GPS+MP3+MP4 player?

Thank you!

As far as I know it acts as a PDA with Win CE, so I believe it is a yes...

vertigo2
Dec 18th, 2006, 09:32 PM
Just a heads up guys, if you call a store and they tell you they have a bunch left, ask them to check with their managers if the ones they have remaining are quarantined for Boxing Day... We have 6 that had to be set aside for Boxing Day, so BE SURE TO ASK before you run in to get one.

mud_yeh
Dec 18th, 2006, 09:44 PM
I just got mine from Costco. I will be returning it. This thing seems to be obsessed with Brampton and Halton Region (not that there's anything wrong with that :D ).

I put in city Toronto, or North York, or Vaughan and ask it to find an address at Bathurst and Steeles (1131 Steeles Ave. W.) and it sends me to 1131 Steeles Ave in Brampton. Same for 1111 Steeles, etc, etc. These are all real addresses that have been around for many, many years at least 25 years.

I tried putting in the postal code and no difference it still sends me to Brampton.

Under POI I asked for the Toronto Zoo, it finds the Bowmanville Zoo and all kinds of minor zoo's but no Toronto Zoo.

I called Customer Support and after a loooooong wait, he confirmed that the only 1131 Steeles Ave. W. that he has in the database is indeed in Bramptom.
He checked about the Toronto Zoo and no there's no such thing in the database either. He said there will be newer maps in the spring.

It's got version 3.2.

So I'm giving up. I've got the Garmin C320 when The Source had it on sale a while back for myself and I like it, this was going to be for my dad, so I'll order the C330 from BB that's on-sale now.

If anyone in the GTA wants this one, please PM, and I will not return it.



Anyone have the same problem?
If yes, the unit comes from Staples? or Costco?

stratux
Dec 18th, 2006, 09:52 PM
so if it goes cheaper on boxing day can u get a price adjustment

torowl
Dec 18th, 2006, 10:04 PM
I can confirm that my unit from Costco did not come with an AC charger. It was not mentioned on the box and it was not included inside.

My unit was from costco. It DID come with AC charger.

patricQ
Dec 18th, 2006, 10:16 PM
After you hacked it and converted it into Windows CE OS, would it be possible to install other applications that supports Windows CE such as Word/Excel and games etc?

Would it be a fully functional PDA or just GPS+MP3+MP4 player?

Thank you!

In typical Pocket PCs, Excel and Word normally come with the OS in ROM. In the case of the Mio, however, they are not included since it is designed as a full time GPS. Nevertheless, there is a list somewhere showing the programs that are compatible with Mio, and one of them is a spreadsheet program. In my brief experience with the Mio, I found many of programs that I have (and that aren't one the aforementioned list) could not be installed.

VLeung
Dec 18th, 2006, 11:11 PM
I also received my C310 from Staples today.
It's a C310sx with Miomap v3.2 and no AC charger.
I just connect it to a PC's USB port to do the initial charge.
( I think USB ports usually have 5.0V @0.5A, should be good enough for the battery charging. )

Anyone know if the unit can be set to use to the Metric system (i.e km instead of mile) ?

I have entered addresses for Home and Work and seems to be able to established the route very quickly.

Will test drive for the next couple of days and see how it performs.

Well, the unit's build quality is OK, kind of clean.
And I really think it worth the money for $239.99 + tax.

:)

magicBC
Dec 19th, 2006, 12:45 AM
so if it goes cheaper on boxing day can u get a price adjustment

Yes, I ordered as well- would like to know if price protection applies?

dav1209
Dec 19th, 2006, 01:38 AM
how come after unlock the mio....i can't run the miomap anymore...it said " you need at least 6mb of free RAM to run this aplication.Please free up some memory or adjust memory setting and try again"
anyone have this problem after unlocking the mio ?

dav1209
Dec 19th, 2006, 01:49 AM
I also received my C310 from Staples today.
It's a C310sx with Miomap v3.2 and no AC charger.
I just connect it to a PC's USB port to do the initial charge.
( I think USB ports usually have 5.0V @0.5A, should be good enough for the battery charging. )

Anyone know if the unit can be set to use to the Metric system (i.e km instead of mile) ?

I have entered addresses for Home and Work and seems to be able to established the route very quickly.

Will test drive for the next couple of days and see how it performs.

Well, the unit's build quality is OK, kind of clean.
And I really think it worth the money for $239.99 + tax.

:)

i also want to know how to change from mile to km ....can't seem to find it on the setting

torowl
Dec 19th, 2006, 02:13 AM
how come after unlock the mio....i can't run the miomap anymore...it said " you need at least 6mb of free RAM to run this aplication.Please free up some memory or adjust memory setting and try again"
anyone have this problem after unlocking the mio ?

Not sure. But after unlock, there is Resinfo.exe in \My Flash Disk\Utils. You can run it to find out how much memory is available. Mine is 40.3M free. Also you can check what task is running, maybe you can get some clue.

torowl
Dec 19th, 2006, 02:16 AM
i also want to know how to change from mile to km ....can't seem to find it on the setting

I suppose you have Miomap 3.2 in your unit. If so, you can click "Setup" button on up-right corner, then click "Language", then you will find it.

dav1209
Dec 19th, 2006, 02:32 AM
how come after unlock the mio....i can't run the miomap anymore...it said " you need at least 6mb of free RAM to run this aplication.Please free up some memory or adjust memory setting and try again"
anyone have this problem after unlocking the mio ?

nevermind....just hard reset and unlock the device again...working now

dav1209
Dec 19th, 2006, 02:35 AM
I suppose you have Miomap 3.2 in your unit. If so, you can click "Setup" button on up-right corner, then click "Language", then you will find it.

thanks...found it

kingandjen
Dec 19th, 2006, 05:34 AM
I was also able to put US maps on my C310 without SD card.

i just copied the US maps from the DVD to my desktop.

(since I live in Vancouver, I will only need Washington state, Oregon state, California state and Nevada state)

The files I copied are:
USA_California.fbl
USA_Nevada.fbl
USA_Oregon.fbl
USA_Washington.fbl

if your cd drive is E drive, the maps are located: E:\maps

Then I just copied the maps to \My Flash Disk\MioMap\maps on the C310.

I was able to browse to any of the above states in street level.

icehome
Dec 19th, 2006, 07:53 AM
For people with the new unit, how big is the Canadian map file (canada.fbl)? There are two versions on the web: 50MB and 90MB, where the 90MB is supposed to have more POI but the map data is same. Just curious about which one comes with the new unit.

RRKnight
Dec 19th, 2006, 08:39 AM
For people with the new unit, how big is the Canadian map file (canada.fbl)? There are two versions on the web: 50MB and 90MB, where the 90MB is supposed to have more POI but the map data is same. Just curious about which one comes with the new unit.

I got mine yesterday and the canada.fbl is 95mb. But I'm still having issue getting mine sync using activesync. Any tips?

mblunt
Dec 19th, 2006, 08:54 AM
Here's my quick review:

I used the unit for one day on my way home (from work) and on my way to work today(from home). The POI are there but fairly old, like older than 2005.... the unit did not pick up the two Canadian tire stores in my area and referred to an old closed one 20 kms away. It also did not pickup Vaughan Mills Mall, which may be understandable.

It locates streets well but really has a hard time with street numbers, it merely says not found and does not offer alternate numbers like I thought it would. I think the original C310s unit was better at this than the C310sx.

The GPS signal is clear and I never lose contact in my car even around large buildings. The route recalculates instantanously but sometimes it thinks you're still on the same road for a few seconds and then realizes you turned and adjusts your route. The unit also likes to take the most direct route with the least amount of turns possible. They may be a good thing for people who don't know where they are going, but on my everyday route I stayed on course maybe 30% of the time.

Car mount is simple and it holds on to your windshield without a problem. Other people in other cars notice the unit and point to it while they are tapping the passenger. Someone also asked me about it in a donut shop.

The unit comes in approx 6 different colour schemes the best night one so far is blue roads on black background.

I had a hard time connecting my unit to my computer but it may be a USB port problem.... the MIO transfer software picked up my unit but not my SD card for some reason... it also liked to freeze up a bit. I will try more this week, but I should have the US maps transferred over soon. There is still approx 200megs+ of space on the unit so the SD card my not be required for small trips to the northern part of the US. Pls ensure you have a DVD drive since the entire manual & install drivers are located on this disc only.

Can anyone confirm for me if I use a 5V 500ma (IPOD) or 5V 850ma (RAZR) USB charger it would be fine? I really don't want to have to buy a new AC charger when I already have two that will fit.

More comments to come as I get to use the unit over the holidays.

RRKnight
Dec 19th, 2006, 09:15 AM
Here's my quick review:

Can anyone confirm for me if I use a 5V 500ma (IPOD) or 5V 850ma (RAZR) USB charger it would be fine? I really don't want to have to buy a new AC charger when I already have two that will fit.


I used my RAZR AC charger last night and it fully charged my Mio. So it works fine.

mud_yeh
Dec 19th, 2006, 09:18 AM
Here's my quick review:

I used the unit for one day on my way home (from work) and on my way to work today(from home). The POI are there but fairly old, like older than 2005.... the unit did not pick up the two Canadian tire stores in my area and referred to an old closed one 20 kms away. It also did not pickup Vaughan Mills Mall, which may be understandable.

It locates streets well but really has a hard time with street numbers, it merely says not found and does not offer alternate numbers like I thought it would. I think the original C310s unit was better at this than the C310sx.

The GPS signal is clear and I never lose contact in my car even around large buildings. The route recalculates instantanously but sometimes it thinks you're still on the same road for a few seconds and then realizes you turned and adjusts your route. The unit also likes to take the most direct route with the least amount of turns possible. They may be a good thing for people who don't know where they are going, but on my everyday route I stayed on course maybe 30% of the time.

Car mount is simple and it holds on to your windshield without a problem. Other people in other cars notice the unit and point to it while they are tapping the passenger. Someone also asked me about it in a donut shop.

The unit comes in approx 6 different colour schemes the best night one so far is blue roads on black background.

I had a hard time connecting my unit to my computer but it may be a USB port problem.... the MIO transfer software picked up my unit but not my SD card for some reason... it also liked to freeze up a bit. I will try more this week, but I should have the US maps transferred over soon. There is still approx 200megs+ of space on the unit so the SD card my not be required for small trips to the northern part of the US. Pls ensure you have a DVD drive since the entire manual & install drivers are located on this disc only.

Can anyone confirm for me if I use a 5V 500ma (IPOD) or 5V 850ma (RAZR) USB charger it would be fine? I really don't want to have to buy a new AC charger when I already have two that will fit.

More comments to come as I get to use the unit over the holidays.


Your unit is from Staples? or Costco?

mblunt
Dec 19th, 2006, 09:21 AM
Staples.... there is no difference guys. The unit that costco may have had stock of @ one time was the C310s (came with AC charger)... but now they are shipping the C310sx just like staples.

kingandjen
Dec 19th, 2006, 10:55 AM
There are 2 versions of Canada map, one is 50mb, the other is 90mb.

The 90mb one has more POIs.

You can download the maps here.

50mb Canada.fbl (http://www.jbeauty.com/redflagdeals/Canada.fbl)

90mb Canada.fbl (http://www.jbeauty.com/redflagdeals/canada.fbl)

a in yul
Dec 19th, 2006, 10:58 AM
Staples.... there is no difference guys. The unit that costco may have had stock of @ one time was the C310s (came with AC charger)... but now they are shipping the C310sx just like staples.

just logged onto staples, seems like they are outta stock..

mblunt
Dec 19th, 2006, 11:02 AM
just logged onto staples, seems like they are outta stock..

Wow your right. Staples has completely removed the Mio C310 off of the website. I guess Costco is your only option now. They added 200 units on Friday and now they are sold out.

mblunt
Dec 19th, 2006, 02:16 PM
There are 2 versions of Canada map, one is 50mb, the other is 90mb.

The 90mb one has more POIs.

You can download the maps here.

50mb Canada.fbl (http://www.jbeauty.com/redflagdeals/Canada.fbl)

90mb Canada.fbl (http://www.jbeauty.com/redflagdeals/canada.fbl)

What is the easiest way to tell if you have the 90 vs 50mg file already on your unit?

98vtec
Dec 19th, 2006, 02:21 PM
Staples may have taken it down from their website, but I went to the downtown Montreal store and the guy said that they had 13 in stock (12 after I bought one).

I tried it out last night and am very impressed with it.. Killer price!

Mark

Aske001
Dec 19th, 2006, 04:52 PM
The Staples on Broadway in Vancouver has plenty of them in stock, and they were willing to meet the online price (even though it has disappeared from the Staples.ca web site).

Update: The one I bought came with Miomap 3.2 installed, no AC charger.

mud_yeh
Dec 19th, 2006, 05:03 PM
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/6932/photo0001mif6.th.png (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo0001mif6.png)

The Mio C310 is back, it show at the latest store flyer that effective at Dec 20-24

ATLien69
Dec 19th, 2006, 05:06 PM
Can someone explain the "no monthly" fees thing? My dads wants to buy one and I know nothing about GPS systems....don't you have to pay someone to track your car all the time suing this thing? Or has this become free all of a sudden??? (Pardon my ignorance)...thanks,....

torowl
Dec 19th, 2006, 05:54 PM
No monthly fee.

Aske001
Dec 19th, 2006, 06:00 PM
Can someone explain the "no monthly" fees thing?

GPS is a receive-only thing. The GPS satellites are operated by the U.S. military, and provide a navigational signal free to all - unless they ever decide to turn them off, of course. Originally they were designed with an encryption feature called SA (Selective Availability) that provided only a degraded-accuracy signal to non-U.S.-military users, but they seem to have given up on that.

stratux
Dec 19th, 2006, 06:34 PM
I bought it from Staples.ca for $269.99-30 coupon. Since they removed it from their site I cant pricematch it with Costco. I called in and the lady told me they can't pricematch with Costco since those people have a memebership. :(

stratux
Dec 19th, 2006, 08:50 PM
can someone place online their pricematch quote with Costco it will be greatly appreciated. Thank youuuuuuu

danny119
Dec 19th, 2006, 08:58 PM
We appreciate your inquiry concerning this issue xxxxxx,

Thank you for bringing the lower price on item 642979 at www.costco.ca
to our attention. We have credited the difference in price to your
MAstercard for the amount of $12.45.

Please don't hesitate to contact us if you need further assistance.
We appreciate your patience concerning this matter,

Derek, Customer Service Representative

stratux
Dec 19th, 2006, 09:05 PM
thank you but isnt their a quote number 2

mblunt
Dec 19th, 2006, 10:21 PM
Has anyone come to the realization that the Mio C310SX does NOT come with a sync for outlook or activesync? There is no mention of it anywhere in the manual or on the device. Anyone with a new Mio able to sync their contacts? I remember reading somewhere that the newer models (ones with Mio map V3.2) no longer offer sync with contacts. Can someone confirm?

Also.... I successfully got my US maps on my SD card... i used a USB 2.0 card reader to download the maps from the DVD... was a lot quicker than using Mio Transfer (1.1 USB).

RRKnight
Dec 20th, 2006, 08:51 AM
Has anyone come to the realization that the Mio C310SX does NOT come with a sync for outlook or activesync? There is no mention of it anywhere in the manual or on the device. Anyone with a new Mio able to sync their contacts? I remember reading somewhere that the newer models (ones with Mio map V3.2) no longer offer sync with contacts. Can someone confirm?

Also.... I successfully got my US maps on my SD card... i used a USB 2.0 card reader to download the maps from the DVD... was a lot quicker than using Mio Transfer (1.1 USB).

I got the new Mio C310sx and I was able to hack mine after researching on the web.

The new C310SX comes with only 1 DVD with Mio Transfer on the DVD.
Here's how to hack it to make it run with ActiveSync.

1. Install Mio Transfer from DVD onto PC
2. Search for Mio Transfer Hack on google and download to PC.
Unzip the only file, "Mio Transfer Hack.exe" to your MioDigiWalker program directory.
3. Backup the current "Mio Transfer.exe" in a different folder.
4. Rename "Mio Transfer Hack.exe" to "Mio Transfer.exe". You don't need the quotations.
5. Open "Mio Transfer.exe" and it'll be a different interface from the one you installed on the disk. Don't unzip it.
you will need to download the hacks from previous post, then continue with these instructions.
6. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap and rename the file MioMap.exe to MioMap2.exe
7. Copy the files MioMap.exe, MioTool.exe and Unlock-C510-Mioskins?.cab to the same directory.
8. Disconnect the GPS from the comptuer, and do a soft reset by pressing the "Reset" button on the bottom of the unit while it is powered on.
9. When it restarts, double click on MioMap and File Explorer should start.
10. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\Miomap and double click MioTool.exe (this will show a small box in the top left corner, it opens a keyboard)
11. In the same folder double click unlock-c510mioskins.cab
12. Now open the keyboard by clicking the small button in the top left.
13. With the keyboard open, click on the box that has the word "Utils" in it, then press the enter key on the keyboard and it should move on to the next screen
14. Click the small box again to hide the keyboard.
15. Select "Yes To All" and the files will install
16. Once completed, do a soft reset again by pressing the reset button on the bottom of the unit.
17. The unit will reset and bring up the desktop for Windows CE, now double click on explorer
18. Navigate to My Flash Disk\utils and delete French.lng (select it and click the red "x" at the top of the screen)
19. Navigate to My Flash Disk\miomap\miomap and delete MioMap.exe
20. Rename the MioMap2.exe to MioMap.exe

After you have hack your new mio C310sx, then download ActiveSync 4.2 on the Microsoft Website. You should able to sync your new mio now.

jackass_ca
Dec 20th, 2006, 09:13 AM
So, i have checked Staples website and it is not showing there, is this in store only? I saw the unit in my local Staples, it is pretty impressive and the screen size is nice. Too bad it's pearl white, but it will still do the trick.

Anyone know how much the extra mapping costs? I know for my Garmin handheld the maps for Canada were close to $150.

robbie80
Dec 20th, 2006, 09:41 AM
I picked up one in Staples. Powered on and found all the addresses are not correct in Regina, Saskatchewan. The map seems ok but the street name and number are not correct at all. I tried to copy the Canadian map from the DVD to the device and still the same. Does anyone have the same problem or know what's going wrong? Otherwise, I will have to return this unit. Thanks

fnd0001
Dec 20th, 2006, 09:45 AM
Hi,

Thanks OP & everyone else for the info on this baby.

I can't find a calendar, contact & phone utility for this ?

Can anyone point us to a commercial or freeware utility that we can put on.

I'd like to use this as a PDA, as well as GPS, know that we have all unlocked it.

p.s. How do you sync up with outlook ?

Thanks.

FD

Aske001
Dec 20th, 2006, 09:51 AM
There are apparently two different software versions for this unit. I think the older units have the Destinator software and a Contacts manager. The newer units have Miomap 3.2 software which lacks the Contacts functionality.

If you have unlocked the unit, you can probably find plenty of utilities for Windows Mobile (Windows CE) that will work on it. I haven't done that yet, but I'll probably transfer some of the utilities I've found useful on my PDA, like the TCPMP media player. Does anyone know if the media player from the Mio 610 is available online anywhere, and if it can be transferred to the Mio 310 without doing the unlocking to WinCE desktop thing?

Overall, I like it so far. I played with the tracking a bit on the way home from work last night, and tried the route navigation from home to work this morning as a test (Vancouver). It illustrated both the strengths and the weaknesses of this technology. The "Cockpit" display and the format of the driving instructions were pretty good, at least comparable to those I've used in rental cars before. It doesn't speak the name of the upcoming street, but it's shown clearly on the display, as is the street you are driving on. The shape of the upcoming intersection where you have to turn is also shown, a nice touch. It found my home address and work address easily enough in its database, although it had no street numbers for my work address, which is on a very small side street.

The first part of the routing wasn't bad. It didn't choose the best streets (the ones I would normally have taken for lighter traffic, fewer lights, and faster speeds), but the choices it made were understandable given the knowledge it has, and they were workable to get me there. It flubbed completely at the end though - it tried to get me to take a right turn off the middle of the Granville St. bridge onto a road 200 feet below. I would have thought that it would at least have known that the streets don't connect. When I took the correct route instead, its recalculations kept trying to get me back onto the wrong route instead of taking a more direct route to the destination from where I was.

It seems that the map database lacks both information on traffic lights (useful for taking the fastest route in city traffic), and more critically information on the relative elevation of streets. It's still useful, but obviously it would be dangerous to follow it blindly in cities like Vancouver.

rdarkman68
Dec 20th, 2006, 05:23 PM
Just got mine from Staples @markham. They have a new shipment arrived this morning. Costco has none in-store, only online. Most Staples are out of stock and they remove it online.

Can anyone confirm if the SD slot has a 1 Gb limit or can it go up to 2Gb?

Citroen
Dec 20th, 2006, 05:53 PM
229 $ in boxing day :)

can2000
Dec 20th, 2006, 06:00 PM
229 $ in boxing day :)

Really? I am happy I didnt order yet.
;)

frankw
Dec 20th, 2006, 06:03 PM
229 $ in boxing day :)


Where???

can2000
Dec 20th, 2006, 06:04 PM
Where???

I think he meaned Staples.

dav1209
Dec 20th, 2006, 06:26 PM
do you know anywhere else they have this C310 instock other than staples and costco...

can2000
Dec 20th, 2006, 06:28 PM
Is this Mio 310 GPS any good? PPL owns this please share your review. Thanks

aeroes
Dec 20th, 2006, 06:40 PM
Really? I am happy I didnt order yet.
;)

I bought one already and I can always buy another one on boxing day and just return the other, that way I wont leave my hand empty just in case they run out:cheesygri

can2000
Dec 20th, 2006, 06:41 PM
I bought one already and I can always buy another one on boxing day and just return the other, that way I wont leave my hand empty just in case they run out:cheesygri

Good idea.

cainee
Dec 20th, 2006, 07:13 PM
i'm having trouble with hacking the c310sx, i tried the instructions below plus renaming miomaps still doesn't load into Windows CE.

1. Install Mio Transfer from DVD onto PC
2. Search for Mio Transfer Hack on google and download to PC.
Unzip the only file, "Mio Transfer Hack.exe" to your MioDigiWalker program directory.
3. Backup the current "Mio Transfer.exe" in a different folder.
4. Rename "Mio Transfer Hack.exe" to "Mio Transfer.exe". You don't need the quotations.
5. Open "Mio Transfer.exe" and it'll be a different interface from the one you installed on the disk. Don't unzip it.
you will need to download the hacks from previous post, then continue with these instructions.
6. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap and rename the file MioMap.exe to MioMap2.exe
7. Copy the files MioMap.exe, MioTool.exe and Unlock-C510-Mioskins?.cab to the same directory.
8. Disconnect the GPS from the comptuer, and do a soft reset by pressing the "Reset" button on the bottom of the unit while it is powered on.
9. When it restarts, double click on MioMap and File Explorer should start.
10. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\Miomap and double click MioTool.exe (this will show a small box in the top left corner, it opens a keyboard)
11. In the same folder double click unlock-c510mioskins.cab
12. Now open the keyboard by clicking the small button in the top left.
13. With the keyboard open, click on the box that has the word "Utils" in it, then press the enter key on the keyboard and it should move on to the next screen
14. Click the small box again to hide the keyboard.
15. Select "Yes To All" and the files will install
16. Once completed, do a soft reset again by pressing the reset button on the bottom of the unit.
17. The unit will reset and bring up the desktop for Windows CE, now double click on explorer
18. Navigate to My Flash Disk\utils and delete French.lng (select it and click the red "x" at the top of the screen)
19. Navigate to My Flash Disk\miomap\miomap and delete MioMap.exe
20. Rename the MioMap2.exe to MioMap.exe

saku
Dec 20th, 2006, 07:17 PM
Really? I am happy I didnt order yet.
;)

c'mon, it is his wish...BD flyers r not out yet:|

stratux
Dec 20th, 2006, 07:45 PM
couldnt we just get a price adjustment on boxing day..and btw can someone give me their pricematch quote number

ekoc
Dec 20th, 2006, 09:01 PM
The touching sound is gone after unlock. Does anyone know how to restore it?

Citroen
Dec 20th, 2006, 09:32 PM
u cant ajust price in boxing day. You have to return it one day before ,and than stay in line for the boxing day.

kturbo
Dec 21st, 2006, 12:08 AM
i got my c310 today from staples

after playing around with it for a bit and i hooked it up with my pc.
but after trying and trying, the pc won't connect with the unit.
i unplugged it and plugged it in again numerous times and still no luck.
then i noticed the Mio Map is unclickable.
i can only click on the setting and mp3 buttons.

has anybody ever had this problem too?

and why doesn't it connect?T_T

dav1209
Dec 21st, 2006, 12:14 AM
i got my c310 today from staples

after playing around with it for a bit and i hooked it up with my pc.
but after trying and trying, the pc won't connect with the unit.
i unplugged it and plugged it in again numerous times and still no luck.
then i noticed the Mio Map is unclickable.
i can only click on the setting and mp3 buttons.

has anybody ever had this problem too?

and why doesn't it connect?T_T

use the mio transfer that come in the DVD to connect to your c310
also try the reset button for your mio...if it doesn't help....try a hard reset
if you want ActiveSync work with your mio...you need to hack to windowsCE

dav1209
Dec 21st, 2006, 12:16 AM
The touching sound is gone after unlock. Does anyone know how to restore it?

there is options to turn it on or off....but don't remember where....look around on your device options

dav1209
Dec 21st, 2006, 12:17 AM
i'm having trouble with hacking the c310sx, i tried the instructions below plus renaming miomaps still doesn't load into Windows CE.

1. Install Mio Transfer from DVD onto PC
2. Search for Mio Transfer Hack on google and download to PC.
Unzip the only file, "Mio Transfer Hack.exe" to your MioDigiWalker program directory.
3. Backup the current "Mio Transfer.exe" in a different folder.
4. Rename "Mio Transfer Hack.exe" to "Mio Transfer.exe". You don't need the quotations.
5. Open "Mio Transfer.exe" and it'll be a different interface from the one you installed on the disk. Don't unzip it.
you will need to download the hacks from previous post, then continue with these instructions.
6. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap and rename the file MioMap.exe to MioMap2.exe
7. Copy the files MioMap.exe, MioTool.exe and Unlock-C510-Mioskins?.cab to the same directory.
8. Disconnect the GPS from the comptuer, and do a soft reset by pressing the "Reset" button on the bottom of the unit while it is powered on.
9. When it restarts, double click on MioMap and File Explorer should start.
10. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\Miomap and double click MioTool.exe (this will show a small box in the top left corner, it opens a keyboard)
11. In the same folder double click unlock-c510mioskins.cab
12. Now open the keyboard by clicking the small button in the top left.
13. With the keyboard open, click on the box that has the word "Utils" in it, then press the enter key on the keyboard and it should move on to the next screen
14. Click the small box again to hide the keyboard.
15. Select "Yes To All" and the files will install
16. Once completed, do a soft reset again by pressing the reset button on the bottom of the unit.
17. The unit will reset and bring up the desktop for Windows CE, now double click on explorer
18. Navigate to My Flash Disk\utils and delete French.lng (select it and click the red "x" at the top of the screen)
19. Navigate to My Flash Disk\miomap\miomap and delete MioMap.exe
20. Rename the MioMap2.exe to MioMap.exe


1st time it not working for me...
do a hard reset and folow the instruction again....
should be working if u do everything correct

dav1209
Dec 21st, 2006, 01:58 AM
You should be able to use the GPS and watch Video. The hack takes advantage of Win CE which this is built on...

Can't wait to start testing it out, I wonder if it works with 4gb or higher SD cards...

anyone trying the 4GB SD on the mio yet ?

torowl
Dec 21st, 2006, 02:32 AM
Staple back to stock.

mattdg
Dec 21st, 2006, 07:51 AM
Anyone know if the traffic feature works in Canada on the Mio c310sx. I think it might be just an american thing, but I am not sure. I have an XM satellite radio as well (american sub) and I get traffic reports from major cities accross the US. Just wondering if it is most likely the same type of system.

Can't wait to start using my Mio, unfortunately my wife won't let me open it up until Christmas :( .

mattdg
Dec 21st, 2006, 08:14 AM
Forgot to ask one thing. Does anyone know if the Mio C310sx can display pictures on the screen from sd cards or onboard memory?

mblunt
Dec 21st, 2006, 08:18 AM
Anyone know if the traffic feature works in Canada on the Mio c310sx. I think it might be just an american thing, but I am not sure. I have an XM satellite radio as well (american sub) and I get traffic reports from major cities accross the US. Just wondering if it is most likely the same type of system.

Can't wait to start using my Mio, unfortunately my wife won't let me open it up until Christmas :( .

TMC is for the US & Europe only. There are rumors that a provider will show up in Canada in Spring 2007... but there will be a subscription cost for the service... and we'll need an additional add on for the C310, the C710 is already good to go. (I'm personally interested... anyway i can get home quicker is worth the money)

Also, Mio Transfer will not work unless you turn off all running programs including your anti-virus.. there is a FAQ about it on www.mio-tech.com. I followed the directions and mio transfer started working for me. It's still a lot better investment to buy a USB 2.0 SD card reader... i picked one up with my mio online for $14.99... 100x faster than using mio transfer.

FYI

85 C310SX units left online

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=,14963&webid=642979&affixedcode=WW

14.99 USB 2.0 Card reader (works really well)

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=,&webid=621170

kturbo
Dec 21st, 2006, 10:01 AM
ok....no matter what i do to restore the miomap software
it'd always tell me error copying file to the device

and no matter how i try with installing/uninstalling mio transfer
rebooting...it just doesn't work
anyone experienced this problem before?

LarryLat
Dec 21st, 2006, 10:14 AM
anyone trying the 4GB SD on the mio yet ?

A-Data 4GB SD 150X card from TigerDirect (Markham store $69) is working fine in my Mio C310 SX.

Aske001
Dec 21st, 2006, 11:44 AM
A-Data 4GB SD 150X card from TigerDirect (Markham store $69) is working fine in my Mio C310 SX.

Huh, really? I thought there had to be a change from FAT16 to FAT32 format to support 4 GB, so a lot of devices won't support it? Maybe the WinCE o/s on the Mio already handles it. Can you tell what format your SD card is using?

In any case, considering that you can easily fit a full-length MOEG-4 movie into 100 Mbytes on the SD card for the screen resolution of this device, I think a 2 Gbyte card will do fine. :cheesygri

Aske001
Dec 21st, 2006, 11:47 AM
Forgot to ask one thing. Does anyone know if the Mio C310sx can display pictures on the screen from sd cards or onboard memory?

Not supported by the current Miomap 3.2 software, but there are plenty of free apps that should handle it if you follow the unlock procedure described in this thread to get full access to the WinCE desktop.

sixer
Dec 21st, 2006, 12:02 PM
nice, thanks

mre
Dec 21st, 2006, 12:08 PM
Huh, really? I thought there had to be a change from FAT16 to FAT32 format to support 4 GB, so a lot of devices won't support it? Maybe the WinCE o/s on the Mio already handles it. Can you tell what format your SD card is using?

In any case, considering that you can easily fit a full-length MOEG-4 movie into 100 Mbytes on the SD card for the screen resolution of this device, I think a 2 Gbyte card will do fine. :cheesygri

The 4GB SD cards will probably work, but the 4GB and greater SDHC won't. The original SD spec only went up to 2GB but some companies stretched the spec to 4GB. I have a Transcend 4GB SD card that I intend to use in the device, because Mio has stated that it works, but it's good to know that the A-Data card works as well.

mblunt
Dec 21st, 2006, 12:23 PM
Not supported by the current Miomap 3.2 software, but there are plenty of free apps that should handle it if you follow the unlock procedure described in this thread to get full access to the WinCE desktop.

With the Hack... is there anyway to import POI directly into mio map? Until someone figures that out, I think i'll leave my MIO the way it is. I already hacked my window CE Casio BE300 :) I doubt I will ever want to use my Navi unit for anything other than navigating (won't even use the MP3 function... have a 30G IPOD)

torowl
Dec 21st, 2006, 12:33 PM
You can use "iGO POI Explorer".

RRKnight
Dec 21st, 2006, 01:08 PM
i'm having trouble with hacking the c310sx, i tried the instructions below plus renaming miomaps still doesn't load into Windows CE.

1. Install Mio Transfer from DVD onto PC
2. Search for Mio Transfer Hack on google and download to PC.
Unzip the only file, "Mio Transfer Hack.exe" to your MioDigiWalker program directory.
3. Backup the current "Mio Transfer.exe" in a different folder.
4. Rename "Mio Transfer Hack.exe" to "Mio Transfer.exe". You don't need the quotations.
5. Open "Mio Transfer.exe" and it'll be a different interface from the one you installed on the disk. Don't unzip it.
you will need to download the hacks from previous post, then continue with these instructions.
6. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap and rename the file MioMap.exe to MioMap2.exe
7. Copy the files MioMap.exe, MioTool.exe and Unlock-C510-Mioskins?.cab to the same directory.
8. Disconnect the GPS from the comptuer, and do a soft reset by pressing the "Reset" button on the bottom of the unit while it is powered on.
9. When it restarts, double click on MioMap and File Explorer should start.
10. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\Miomap and double click MioTool.exe (this will show a small box in the top left corner, it opens a keyboard)
11. In the same folder double click unlock-c510mioskins.cab
12. Now open the keyboard by clicking the small button in the top left.
13. With the keyboard open, click on the box that has the word "Utils" in it, then press the enter key on the keyboard and it should move on to the next screen
14. Click the small box again to hide the keyboard.
15. Select "Yes To All" and the files will install
16. Once completed, do a soft reset again by pressing the reset button on the bottom of the unit.
17. The unit will reset and bring up the desktop for Windows CE, now double click on explorer
18. Navigate to My Flash Disk\utils and delete French.lng (select it and click the red "x" at the top of the screen)
19. Navigate to My Flash Disk\miomap\miomap and delete MioMap.exe
20. Rename the MioMap2.exe to MioMap.exe

you can find more instruction here...http://johntam.com/tiki-index.php?page=Mio+c310x+gps

Follow the hack info.

dav1209
Dec 21st, 2006, 03:38 PM
just a question for peoples who install tomtom6 on this...
how big is canada map files
i know the North America map is 1.2GB
don't know if they have stand alone canada map files?

Aske001
Dec 21st, 2006, 06:16 PM
I noticed this Gonav S600A unit hidden up on a top shelf at Superstore this morning, 2 new boxes marked $199, reduced from $399: http://www.gonav.net/
http://www.navigadget.com/index.php/2006/05/10/gonav-s600a-from-supa/

Hardware and functionality appears to be very similar to the Mio. The box says that it includes a 512 Mbyte SD card, AC and car chargers, car mount, USB cable, carrying case, US and Cdn maps on the SD card, plus a CD.

Update: Apparently it uses Intellinav software: http://www.intellinav.com/

jochooi
Dec 21st, 2006, 10:45 PM
I have the original destinator DVD/maps but would like a copy of the Miomap 3.2 DVD/maps.

Anyone interested in swapping a copy of the miomap 3.2 DVD for the destinator version? (I'm assuming both versions would work OK).

mre
Dec 22nd, 2006, 10:31 AM
just a question for peoples who install tomtom6 on this...
how big is canada map files
i know the North America map is 1.2GB
don't know if they have stand alone canada map files?

TomTom just released new North American maps (v6.65) but the v6.5 version is about 140MB.

krazy89
Dec 22nd, 2006, 12:08 PM
Hey Everyone,

If there's anyone out there that has unlock this baby and installed Tomtom 6 on this... can you please post a step by step installation of it? or maybe a link to some instructions?

That would be great! (I'm sure there are others that want TT 6 instead of miomap)

Merry Xmas RFDer's

KraZy,

mhlwang
Dec 22nd, 2006, 12:36 PM
Hey Everyone,

If there's anyone out there that has unlock this baby and installed Tomtom 6 on this... can you please post a step by step installation of it? or maybe a link to some instructions?

That would be great! (I'm sure there are others that want TT 6 instead of miomap)

Merry Xmas RFDer's

KraZy,


I believe there was a link posted earlier that had the instructions....but here it is again:

http://johntam.com/tiki-index.php?page=Mio+c310x+gps#How_to_install_tomtom _on_this_device

SAABaru
Dec 22nd, 2006, 02:41 PM
C310 will be sold $229.92 in Boxing Day Sale

Aske001
Dec 22nd, 2006, 03:33 PM
C310 will be sold $229.92 in Boxing Day Sale

Can you provide any link that we can use for PM?

mattdg
Dec 22nd, 2006, 03:41 PM
I paid $259.99 for mine with a price match from Costco. I then used a $20 and a $10 coupon to bring it down to $229.99. I just wonder if I can technically get some money back when they bring the price down again.

I should be able to get back $30 possibly.

krazy89
Dec 22nd, 2006, 03:41 PM
I believe there was a link posted earlier that had the instructions....but here it is again:

http://johntam.com/tiki-index.php?page=Mio+c310x+gps#How_to_install_tomtom _on_this_device

Hey mhlwang,

thanks for the link... this thread is so damn long... must've missed it.

cheers,

KraZy

torowl
Dec 22nd, 2006, 11:50 PM
It seems recently people get C310sx with Miomap mapping software, which is different from C310s with Destinator.

Can anybody check if there is speed camera database in your unit? The file path should be:

MioMap\poi\speedcam\SpeedcamUpdates.spud

The file size should not be 0.

Thanks

realize
Dec 23rd, 2006, 01:03 AM
i picked up one of these units and noticed i didnt get a house ac charger is it just me or anyone else did not get one?

Aske001
Dec 23rd, 2006, 02:02 AM
It seems recently people get C310sx with Miomap mapping software, which is different from C310s with Destinator.

Can anybody check if there is speed camera database in your unit? The file path should be:

MioMap\poi\speedcam\SpeedcamUpdates.spud

The file size should not be 0.

Thanks

I got the model with MioMap 3.2 software.
The SpeedcamUpdates.spud file is on it, but the length is 0 bytes.

I have a question for those who have done the hack:

Some versions of the hack instructions say to run ActiveSync to see the full directory contents of the unit. I already had ActiveSync 3.8 on my computer, but it doesn't detect the Mio. There is no version of ActiveSync on the CD that came with my unit. I have used the Mio Transfer Hack.exe instead, and it works, but it would probably be better to get ActiveSync working. Do I need to update to ActiveSync 4? What version are you other people running that works? Where did you get it, from a CD that came with your Mio, or from Microsoft?

magicBC
Dec 23rd, 2006, 02:12 AM
i picked up one of these units and noticed i didnt get a house ac charger is it just me or anyone else did not get one?

A lot of us did not get the adaptor, some did.

torowl
Dec 23rd, 2006, 03:00 AM
I got the model with MioMap 3.2 software.
The SpeedcamUpdates.spud file is on it, but the length is 0 bytes.

I have a question for those who have done the hack:

Some versions of the hack instructions say to run ActiveSync to see the full directory contents of the unit. I already had ActiveSync 3.8 on my computer, but it doesn't detect the Mio. There is no version of ActiveSync on the CD that came with my unit. I have used the Mio Transfer Hack.exe instead, and it works, but it would probably be better to get ActiveSync working. Do I need to update to ActiveSync 4? What version are you other people running that works? Where did you get it, from a CD that came with your Mio, or from Microsoft?

Thanks Aske001
I'm using ActiveSync 4.1, it is from microsoft.

I have generated redlight camera and speed camera database for Canada. I would like to share with your guys. If you are interesting in it, you can download from this link:

http://rapidshare.com/files/8620336/SpeedcamUpdates.dec23.spud.html

Rename the file to SpeedcamUpdates.spud and copy over to MioMap\poi\speedcam\SpeedcamUpdates.spud

The data in the file are credit to hpatlik:

http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=61154&whichpage=1

saku
Dec 23rd, 2006, 04:13 AM
A lot of us did not get the adaptor, some did.

:evil: same here

I guess i can use my BB Pearl home charger. Not tried yet! Can some one post the specs of the home adapter?

dav1209
Dec 23rd, 2006, 04:20 AM
:evil: same here

I guess i can use my BB Pearl home charger. Not tried yet! Can some one post the specs of the home adapter?

i'm using motorola home charger and working good

dav1209
Dec 23rd, 2006, 04:26 AM
I got the model with MioMap 3.2 software.
The SpeedcamUpdates.spud file is on it, but the length is 0 bytes.

I have a question for those who have done the hack:

Some versions of the hack instructions say to run ActiveSync to see the full directory contents of the unit. I already had ActiveSync 3.8 on my computer, but it doesn't detect the Mio. There is no version of ActiveSync on the CD that came with my unit. I have used the Mio Transfer Hack.exe instead, and it works, but it would probably be better to get ActiveSync working. Do I need to update to ActiveSync 4? What version are you other people running that works? Where did you get it, from a CD that came with your Mio, or from Microsoft?


i use 4.2 and work great...but you have to use Mio Transfer hack to Hack your Mio...after complete the hack...then you will be able to you active Sync to detect your mio

saku
Dec 23rd, 2006, 04:28 AM
i'm using motorola home charger and working good

Thanks..:)

mblunt
Dec 23rd, 2006, 12:27 PM
u cant ajust price in boxing day. You have to return it one day before ,and than stay in line for the boxing day.

No worries... buy your unit now.. they will price match (even boxing day price) within 30 days.

Thank you for shopping with us,

We will match the price of the item for 30 days after you have purchased
it.

Thank you for shopping with us,
Your Online Office Manager

Chris, Customer Service Representative

dav1209
Dec 23rd, 2006, 01:00 PM
No worries... buy your unit now.. they will price match (even boxing day price) within 30 days.

Thank you for shopping with us,

We will match the price of the item for 30 days after you have purchased
it.

Thank you for shopping with us,
Your Online Office Manager

Chris, Customer Service Representative

but no return or exchange during boxing day
how can they price match boxing day price ?
or matching with other store ?
don't really get what they saying

Aske001
Dec 23rd, 2006, 01:00 PM
Ok, I have successfully hacked my C310sx from Staples, installed the TCPMP media player and re-arranged my WinCE desktop. Here's a few tips:

- My unit came with MioMap 3.2 installed already, so I have no issues with updating the mapping software or getting GAPI to work after the hack.
- My MioMap CD did not have ActiveSync on it, but my PC already had ActiveSync 3.8 installed (for my Smartphone) and it worked fine with the Mio after the hack.
- I had to download and use Mio Transfer Hack.exe to get started with hacking the unit, since ActiveSync 3.8 wouldn't recognize it until after the hack.
- A MioMap shortcut appears on my WinCE desktop on the unit after the hack, and running it launches MioMap 3.2. It seems to run normally, and I can exit back to the WinCE desktop. I also have the shortcut icons for MP3 (launches the Mio MP3 player) and Settings (launches the original Mio Settings screen, but has to be renamed from the French Reglage after the hack).
- I also have a Mioshell shortcut icon, and if I run that it launches the original Mio desktop with the 3 icons for MioMap, MP3, and Settings. But there's no easy way to exit from there (a soft reset is required), so I'll stick with launching the 3 apps from the WinCE desktop I think.
- After installing TCMPMP and cleaning up my desktop, I have these shortcut icons on my WinCE desktop: MioMap, TCPMP, MP3, Settings, Explorer, Keyboard, Reset, Sleep, ActiveSync, Mio Transfer, Mio Shell. I double-click the MioMap shortcut to run MioMap 3.2. It will stay running as long as I do a normal soft on/off, so I only go back to the WinCE desktop when I want something from there. Everything is installed on the built-in flash drive. I didn't check how much space was left, but I didn't have any problem installing TCPMP. My media files are on an SD card.
- The TCPMP media player is great. I was already familiar with it from my Smartphone. I find it takes a bit of fiddling to get the screen zoom and orientation right (it doesn't always "take" right away), but it plays very smoothly once it's running. The resolution of the Mio's 3.5" screen is nice for watching movies. TCPMP can also double as an MP3 player and a JPEG photo viewer. The companion PocketDivXEncoder for your PC is lightening fast at converting MPEG-4 video files to the optimum size for your pocket screen.
- From experimentation with my Smartphone I know that there are many other apps available for WinCE if you want to experiment. You can also completely customize your desktop look and feel if you play around with the configuration xml file for it. There are lots of examples and tutorials for this on the web, and some great customized versions already done for the Mio. I successfully customized my Smartphone desktop when I first got it to eliminate options I wasn't using and switch the background to a favourite family photo, and I would say that simple changes by editing the xml file are easy, but extensive customization can get quite complex and require a lot of experimentation to get it right.
- I notice that I get no click sound from the Mio when I tap on the WinCE desktop or in TCPMP, but it still works in MioMap. No idea how to turn that on. Nothing obvious on the control panel.

I've been trying the C310 on a few trips around town to see how well it works. Overall I like the MioMap 3.2 interface. It's a bit difficult at first to find all the functions because the menus are scattered in various places and the manual is sketchy, but I did find most of what I looked for eventually. As for the navigation, I find the tracking accuracy and the street map pretty good, but I would give the navigation accuracy only a 50% success rating if I were relying on it with no local knowledge. It gives confusing directions at some locations, including some impossible turns. Most likely this is a limitation of the current TeleAtlas maps, so I think we're all depending on future upgrades to those maps to improve the navigation.

Aside from this, I really like this unit. I'm glad I bought it.

tarnator
Dec 23rd, 2006, 01:13 PM
C310 will be sold $229.92 in Boxing Day Sale

This would be great! Is this likely to be instore only or online too? I am just thinking how to stack the online coupons on this price, if this is the case...:cheesygri

mblunt
Dec 23rd, 2006, 01:32 PM
Quick question... for those of you who have not hacked your Mio... what usually happens when you connect your device to your machine. I can use Mio transfer to put files on both the flash and SD card. However, when I use the DVD and I click on "Transmit Maps" there are two options:

1. SD card (and when you click on it, it starts to browse "my computer for a drive or folder)

2. C310 Device (i'm assuming it would transfer the maps directly there)

My questions:

1. If I click on the first option... am I supposed to see my SD card there or the Mio as a explorable device? Cause nothing more than my HD and ROM drives show up. That normal?

2. When I click on C310 Device and I try to transfer for example Canadian maps to the flash drive it says.... "Error connecting to the device" and "Error copying file to the device."

This is really not too much of an issue for me cause i can go in through Mio Transfer and do it... but directly from the DVD to the device does not work for me.

tarnator
Dec 24th, 2006, 02:20 AM
OK,
just went and bought instore for $269 - after trying to be cagey, I eventually flatout asked the clerk what the policy will be 'if' the price drops on boxing day. He laughed. So I guess he knows too....

Anyway, he said just bring the receipt in on boxing day to be credited the difference. Easy.

He told me that there is at least 10 more in stock at the downtown Vancouver location. But that they just sold 9 today! Sneaky RFDers!

gromitlad
Dec 24th, 2006, 05:52 AM
I got one without a home charger. :(

Oh well! Thanks, OP!

can2000
Dec 24th, 2006, 09:06 AM
OK,
just went and bought instore for $269 - after trying to be cagey, I eventually flatout asked the clerk what the policy will be 'if' the price drops on boxing day. He laughed. So I guess he knows too....

Anyway, he said just bring the receipt in on boxing day to be credited the difference. Easy.

He told me that there is at least 10 more in stock at the downtown Vancouver location. But that they just sold 9 today! Sneaky RFDers!

Will the on line price be dropped to 229$ on boxing day as well?
If yes, we can use on line coupon.
Thanks

aragingbull
Dec 24th, 2006, 12:34 PM
Will the on line price be dropped to 229$ on boxing day as well?
If yes, we can use on line coupon.
Thanks

nope..., i called the toll free # as well as a local staples. both basically said if the flyer shows a store limit, it means the deal is only available in store.

Jrawk
Dec 24th, 2006, 12:46 PM
For those who have hacked this unit, do not let the battery die completely...

It will basically perform a hard reset, and you will have to rehack Miomap.

mattdg
Dec 24th, 2006, 01:58 PM
nope..., i called the toll free # as well as a local staples. both basically said if the flyer shows a store limit, it means the deal is only available in store.

I purchased the Mio GPS for $259.99 minus a $30.00 coupon to bring it down to $229.99.

I phoned a Staples local store and the manager basically said that I could bring my online purchase bill into the store and they would credit me back the difference. So they will have to credit me back $30.00.

I also phoned the online customer service, and they informed me that if it is not for sale online, then they will not credit me back the difference in price that a store is selling it for.

So basically you will have to go into a store if you purchased online before the sale to get some money back.

saku
Dec 24th, 2006, 02:15 PM
I purchased the Mio GPS for $259.99 minus a $30.00 coupon to bring it down to $229.99.

I phoned a Staples local store and the manager basically said that I could bring my online purchase bill into the store and they would credit me back the difference. So they will have to credit me back $30.00.

I also phoned the online customer service, and they informed me that if it is not for sale online, then they will not credit me back the difference in price that a store is selling it for.

So basically you will have to go into a store if you purchased online before the sale to get some money back.

I am not sure that u will get $30 back on boxing day. And, if u get u r lucky..i called staples CSR, she told me that since the limit is 5 per store, it wont be available online. According to their low price guarantee policy, they will refund you 100% of the price difference within 30 days. If you goto the store, u get 229 - 229 = $0.

I get, $249 - $229 = $20 + tx

This is all what the CSR briefed me.:-0

mattdg
Dec 24th, 2006, 02:47 PM
I am not sure that u will get $30 back on boxing day. And, if u get u r lucky..i called staples CSR, she told me that since the limit is 5 per store, it wont be available online. According to their low price guarantee policy, they will refund you 100% of the price difference within 30 days. If you goto the store, u get 229 - 229 = $0.

I get, $249 - $229 = $20 + tx

This is all what the CSR briefed me.:-0

Actually, it doesn't matter if you use coupons or not. They price match on the amount before any coupons that are used. The amount I paid before coupons was $259.99. The sale price for boxing week is $229.99, so the price difference between the two is $30.00.

This is what I understood from Staples customer service.

saku
Dec 24th, 2006, 09:18 PM
Actually, it doesn't matter if you use coupons or not. They price match on the amount before any coupons that are used. The amount I paid before coupons was $259.99. The sale price for boxing week is $229.99, so the price difference between the two is $30.00.

This is what I understood from Staples customer service.

sounds cool..when i bought it in store, the original price was $269..i managed to get $20 coupon on the item..so, it was $249 + tx.

According to you, i should be able to get $269 - $229 = @40 + tx

Woww! if it would have been like this, the price of c310 would be $209..am i right?

can2000
Dec 24th, 2006, 09:33 PM
Any $20 off $150 coupon? Thanks

mattdg
Dec 24th, 2006, 11:13 PM
Any $20 off $150 coupon? Thanks

Here it is:

84218 - $20 off $150 or more

mblunt
Dec 24th, 2006, 11:41 PM
Ok... well the online flyer is already available and shows $229.92. It also says price available in-store and online Dec26-Jan2.

Here is a link:

Online Flyer (http://staples.flyerservices.com/noncached_pages/STAPR_PU00F1_120_eng_PG0001.asp?SID=862016797&Ref=STAPR_PU00F1_120_eng_PG0002.asp&C=L4H%203H5&T=22,%2022&S=&CC=0)

I'm going to ensure I get my price match. I should end up getting a credit of $33.15.

mattdg
Dec 24th, 2006, 11:51 PM
Ok... well the online flyer is already available and shows $229.92. It also says price available in-store and online Dec26-Jan2.

Here is a link:

Online Flyer (http://staples.flyerservices.com/noncached_pages/STAPR_PU00F1_120_eng_PG0001.asp?SID=862016797&Ref=STAPR_PU00F1_120_eng_PG0002.asp&C=L4H%203H5&T=22,%2022&S=&CC=0)

I'm going to ensure I get my price match. I should end up getting a credit of $33.15.

Great, glad you found that! I too will just maybe call them instead of going into the store to collect my money!

mblunt
Dec 25th, 2006, 10:14 AM
Wow price online today (Dec 25)) just went up to $429.92.

can2000
Dec 25th, 2006, 10:25 AM
Wow price online today (Dec 25)) just went up to $429.92.

Can we buy it on line now and PM their store price tomorrow? If yes, then will save $20 more. :razz:

saku
Dec 25th, 2006, 10:39 AM
Can we buy it on line now and PM their store price tomorrow? If yes, then will save $20 more. :razz:

Save $30 off purchases of $200 or more with coupon code 81741.

TurboTronix
Dec 25th, 2006, 10:49 AM
Are the new ones on Staple sold with v3.2? If so I am thinking on replacing mine since I got 30 days return...

can2000
Dec 25th, 2006, 11:14 AM
Save $30 off purchases of $200 or more with coupon code 81741.

Thanks, I know this coupon, but just want to leave it for the Brother DCP-7020.

mattdg
Dec 25th, 2006, 11:15 AM
Are the new ones on Staple sold with v3.2? If so I am thinking on replacing mine since I got 30 days return...

The new version I just received from Staples and opened up this morning is indeed version 3.2.

What a great little device! I am absolutely thrilled with mine, I've been playing around with it all morning. I can't believe how accurate it is and how good the maps are. I am even amazed the small little POI's it has in it's database. I get an incredible satellite signal even inside of my house. Maps are also a little more updated than I was expecting. So overall it's great!

Definately worth the money. Now I just want to see how well it navigates me to my inlaws this afternoon in Barrie.

Jrawk
Dec 25th, 2006, 11:26 AM
For those wondering, here are the specs on the home charger that came with my unit:
Input: 100-240V ~ 0.2A 50-60Hz 14-19VA
Output: 5V 1.0A Max

sienna
Dec 25th, 2006, 12:21 PM
I want one, what time do Staples open on boxing day.

toccalee88
Dec 25th, 2006, 01:58 PM
I got one......used my motorola RZR charger and it worked......too bad mine did not come with a home charger.
Version is a 3.2

cy
Dec 25th, 2006, 02:21 PM
does anyone know whether the sku is the same for the "new" v3.2 and the old one that was being sold at the beginning of the month?

I want to exchange mine for the new v3.2 before i head over the the state next week :)

michael1996
Dec 25th, 2006, 04:37 PM
$229.92 online also tomorrow.:lol:

can2000
Dec 25th, 2006, 04:39 PM
$229.92 online also tomorrow.:lol:

Are you sure?

mavrik
Dec 25th, 2006, 04:50 PM
$229.92 online also tomorrow.:lol:

Does anyone know if you can order it online tomorrow and do an in-store pickup tomorrow itself? I leave for a trip to Quebec on Wednesday and would like to carry this with me :)

k__dam
Dec 25th, 2006, 05:17 PM
$229.92 online also tomorrow.:lol:

Dam i knew i shoud've waited till boxing day...:twisted:

michael1996
Dec 25th, 2006, 06:55 PM
Are you sure?


Local Flyer
Available in-store and online.
Prices valid from December 26, 2006 to January 2, 2007.

82
Dec 25th, 2006, 08:38 PM
Does the box say C310sx on it? I want to make sure not to get the older C310s.



Local Flyer
Available in-store and online.
Prices valid from December 26, 2006 to January 2, 2007.

johnsmithy
Dec 25th, 2006, 10:18 PM
actually i pick one up yesterday and it says C310s on the box but the unit itself says C310sx.

Does the box say C310sx on it? I want to make sure not to get the older C310s.

toccalee88
Dec 25th, 2006, 10:37 PM
can ne1 verify how to work this unit? also how to change it to KM/H?
I think it is-address, select city, enter street, enter number but when I start to drive will it click on?

impulsebuy
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:20 AM
price is updated! $229.92

7thEye
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:22 AM
just picked one up
used the 30 dollar coupon as well
amazing!!

dealsoutlook
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:30 AM
oos mississauga

YLSF
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:32 AM
Crap.. I checked right after midnight and they didn't update the price. SHowed they had 56 in stock (using the 999 order trick)... well, then I went away and came back to check at 12:30.. updated price but sold out! arg... oh well., I guess I don't really need it since I have my pocketpc for GPS anyway... and older IPAQ....

elmokiddo
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:36 AM
Yay, just got an Order in. (Ottawa)

sunny923
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:37 AM
grab one as well.

In stock for me. ( edit:OOS now )

haven't got the confirmation email yet so technically it could be OOS still

Bugs119
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:45 AM
Just submit a prices match request online. I bought it at $259 few days ago. Hope I can get my $30 back.

can2000
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:48 AM
there are more than 100 QTY in MTL.

sunny923
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:48 AM
I am using the Garmin C330 and very please so far. Very acurate.
the only annoying thing is easy to lose singnal when I was trying to find a parking lot in downtown toronto. I figure I need a GPS with SIRFIII chipset instead.

Anyway, I have ordered the Mio C310 and see how it performs, if it is piece of junk by comparsion to the C330, it will go back to stooples for sure.

can2000
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:49 AM
Just submit a prices match request online. I bought it at $259 few days ago. Hope I can get my $30 back.

Pls keep us update.
Good luck!

sunny923
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:53 AM
BTW, if anyone just ordered tonight and got an order confirmation email, please give us a shout here.

can2000
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:59 AM
BTW, if anyone just ordered tonight and got an order confirmation email, please give us a shout here.

Got an email already (after 2 mins placed the order).

Scheduled delivery 12/27/2006 by DHD

impulsebuy
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:00 AM
ordered around 12:25, got my confirm. email

Torque
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:00 AM
It's now on-line.
My order went through at $229.92.
Hopefully, I'll get it!
It doesn't show that any charger is included in the box.
Cheers

sgee
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:00 AM
I ordered unit with $30 off coupon, and received confirmation E-mail

BTW, if anyone just ordered tonight and got an order confirmation email, please give us a shout here.

missjosie
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:02 AM
Just ordered one!
;)

sunny923
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:24 AM
Got an email already (after 2 mins placed the order).

Scheduled delivery 12/27/2006 by DHD

WTH, I haven't recieved any email so far from stooples, not sure if I can get it or not. oh well...

sunny923
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:25 AM
congras to all that ordered and got confirmation email

saku
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:30 AM
10 mins ago, ordered one..

no confirmation mail yet >:(

Sending and receiving my outlook every 15s..cant wait :twisted:

Torque
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:30 AM
I got the confirmation. It also indicates Dec.27 arrival.
Where does their system track remaining? At checkout?
I'm hoping that I don't get an email on Wednesday indicating that they actually have no stock... That would suck because I would be there tomorrow morning otherwise.

Registered
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:32 AM
used 30$ off coupon for total of 199 + tx :)

Confirmation email says it should arrive the 27th :):):)

can2000
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:35 AM
FYI -
QTY: 106 left in MTL.

Torque
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:37 AM
FYI -
QTY: 106 left in MTL.

How do you know this? Is this where their DC is?
Is the 12/27 delivery date bogus, or are they going to overnight it to Alberta?

saku
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:38 AM
FYI -
QTY: 106 left in MTL.

Why no confirmation mail for me yet...? this is my first buy with staples..did i got my question and expected answer :-0

can2000
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:40 AM
How do you know this? Is this where their DC is?
Is the 12/27 delivery date bogus, or are they going to overnight it to Alberta?

You can try to type 999 in the order qty to see how many left.

Staples provides next business day delivery. So, 27th should be normal.

ryershen
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:40 AM
I ordered it @ $270 online on Sunday, email says delivery date will be 28th. Can I PM $40 back before I receive it? or I have to wait until I actually receive it.:?: thanks

jameslinux
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:40 AM
Finally got something instock but don't need it...oh well more for people in North Van.

can2000
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:44 AM
Why no confirmation mail for me yet...? this is my first buy with staples..did i got my question and expected answer :-0

Not sure about their email confirmation system...but I guess your confirmation should be on the way if there are still plenty qty left around your area.
Try to type 999 in the order QTY and see how many left.

dracore
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:45 AM
I'm seeing it as OOS. Will they replenish the stock supply every so often?

Torque
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:48 AM
227 for Alberta as of now.

sunny923
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:49 AM
10 mins ago, ordered one..

no confirmation mail yet >:(

Sending and receiving my outlook every 15s..cant wait :twisted:

wait till wednesday and see, probably out of luck.

staples is famous for being stOOplS. so don't be surprised if u got OOS email.

sunny923
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:50 AM
I'm seeing it as OOS. Will they replenish the stock supply every so often?

I guess the chance is very slim at GTA locations.

u probably need to fight the crowed tmr for going to store.

vijay101
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:51 AM
Why no confirmation mail for me yet...? this is my first buy with staples..did i got my question and expected answer :-0

im in quebec and i havent received a confirmation either, so maybe its a quebec thing

saku
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:52 AM
Not sure about their email confirmation system...but I guess your confirmation should be on the way if there are still plenty qty left around your area.
Try to type 999 in the order QTY and see how many left.


103 left..Fellow RFDers :evil:

I clicked submit order button twice. Does that mean, i ordered 2...Should i call them earlier this morning to cancel one..?That may not be the reason for email delay coz there is no limit per household.

Moreover, one customer cannot use same $30 off coupon twice..

Counting on their automated mail server..:arrowu:

sunny923
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:52 AM
im in quebec and i havent received a confirmation either, so maybe its a quebec thing

I am in GTA and I haven't got the email either.

dracore
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:53 AM
Hahaha I can already picture a PS3-like lineup tomorrow morning


I guess the chance is very slim at GTA locations.

u probably need to fight the crowed tmr for going to store.

sunny923
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:54 AM
103 left..Fellow RFDers :evil:

I clicked submit order button twice. Does that mean, i ordered 2...Should i call them earlier this morning to cancel one..?That may not be the reason for email delay coz there is no limit per household.

Moreover, one customer cannot use same $30 off coupon twice..

Counting on their automated mail server..:arrowu:

You can always check ur order history to verify ur order....

saku
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:54 AM
im in quebec and i havent received a confirmation either, so maybe its a quebec thing

Lolzzz...! Yes, indeed. :lol:

saku
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:55 AM
You can always check ur order history to verify ur order....


I tried that option earlier..same msg

You have no previously saved orders for this account profile. Either you have not yet ordered from Staples.ca or your last order is over 90 days old.

saku
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:57 AM
I am in GTA and I haven't got the email either.

Try the following to check whether it is OOS.

Originally Posted by can2000 View Post
Not sure about their email confirmation system...but I guess your confirmation should be on the way if there are still plenty qty left around your area.
Try to type 999 in the order QTY and see how many left.

If they have some left in stock, sure u will get ur confirmation mail..Ordered mine 40 mins ago, no mail yet..

sunny923
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:58 AM
I tried that option earlier..same msg

mmm...stange. although I didn;t get the email, I can check my order under "your order history", from there, you can see what you have ordered and your order# as well.

saku
Dec 26th, 2006, 02:03 AM
mmm...stange. although I didn;t get the email, I can check my order under "your order history", from there, you can see what you have ordered and your order# as well.

I use firefox. When i submitted my order, it showed the product details instead of any confirmation page..something wrong, i guess!

saku
Dec 26th, 2006, 02:11 AM
I am in GTA and I haven't got the email either.

SOS alert RFDers..

Initially, i tried with firefox. This is what i saw in my order status

You have no previously saved orders for this account profile. Either you have not yet ordered from Staples.ca or your last order is over 90 days old.

Ordered now with IE (basically, i am not a IE fan), this is all what i got,


Thank you

Order No.: **********

We have now received your order. You will receive an order confirmation via e-mail once we have processed your order through our warehouse. If you should have any questions regarding your order please e-mail or contact us at 1-888-STAPLES. To assist us in providing the best customer service to you, please include your order number (found on your order confirmation e-mail) or name and address on all correspondence.


I did it. :D

vijay101
Dec 26th, 2006, 02:18 AM
SOS alert RFDers..

Initially, i tried with firefox. This is what i saw in my order status



Ordered now with IE (basically, i am not a IE fan), this is all what i got,



I did it. :D

i used IE and have that message but did u receive an email yet

SAABaru
Dec 26th, 2006, 02:21 AM
Online Order 229-30 off coupon, get 199 before TAX,
get confirmation mail after 3 mins (Vancouver Area)

GiOBoY
Dec 26th, 2006, 02:31 AM
Damn OOS online .. that was fast .. RFD in full effect .. :(

saku
Dec 26th, 2006, 02:38 AM
Damn OOS online .. that was fast .. RFD in full effect .. :(

Where do u live? For Quebec, 100 left..:-0

Torque
Dec 26th, 2006, 02:38 AM
I used Firefox, and it worked fine.
Now 221 in Alberta.

saku
Dec 26th, 2006, 02:39 AM
i used IE and have that message but did u receive an email yet

I received my confirmation mail in less than 2 mins after my order..Need not have to worry, if u got the confirmation number..

dracore
Dec 26th, 2006, 03:50 AM
So the website can determine which location you are in based on ... i'm guessing, your IP address? I don't remmeber entering any postal code or province info.. but for me, the webpage shows OOS

saku
Dec 26th, 2006, 04:29 AM
So the website can determine which location you are in based on ... i'm guessing, your IP address? I don't remmeber entering any postal code or province info.. but for me, the webpage shows OOS

postal code on the shipping addressu entered b4..

saku
Dec 26th, 2006, 05:26 AM
97 left n Quebec ...:arrowu:

brandnew
Dec 26th, 2006, 06:09 AM
thank you who remind the coupon, which makes the deal even better -$199

sienna
Dec 26th, 2006, 07:10 AM
Can you use the 30 off coupon in store?

SuperManh
Dec 26th, 2006, 07:17 AM
OOS in GTA, dam that was fast.

saku
Dec 26th, 2006, 07:30 AM
Can you use the 30 off coupon in store?

imo, no

saku
Dec 26th, 2006, 07:31 AM
OOS in GTA, dam that was fast.

they restocked quebec..110 now

do check often

SuperManh
Dec 26th, 2006, 07:49 AM
Still OOS in gta, so i used a quebec's postal code. Made it to the checkout screen, but it shows oos when I entered my ontario's shipping address.
This is such an amazing deal, hope they're restrocking in the gta soon.

Harkonnen
Dec 26th, 2006, 08:12 AM
They've just restocked, I just ordered one, using the $30 off coupon!

I love the holidays!

SuperManh
Dec 26th, 2006, 08:18 AM
still shows oos in ontario

can2000
Dec 26th, 2006, 08:19 AM
SOS alert RFDers..

Initially, i tried with firefox. This is what i saw in my order status



Ordered now with IE (basically, i am not a IE fan), this is all what i got,



I did it. :D

Congratulations!

It looks you didint sleep last evening:?:

can2000
Dec 26th, 2006, 08:20 AM
QTY 88 left in QC

Harkonnen
Dec 26th, 2006, 08:53 AM
still shows oos in ontario

I'm in Toronto - I woke up at 6:00am to go to work and tried to place an order and it said OOS.

I tried again when I got to work at around 8:00am, and my order went through.

With the $30 coupon, the total order (incl. taxes) came to around $227.

Good Luck!

jshebib
Dec 26th, 2006, 09:01 AM
looks like this is still live

can2000
Dec 26th, 2006, 09:12 AM
looks like this is still live

Yes, 80 QTY left in QC.

slchg
Dec 26th, 2006, 09:17 AM
18 available in GTA now !!

:) :)

SuperManh
Dec 26th, 2006, 09:26 AM
YES!!! Successfully ordered one in the GTA, scheduled delivery on the 28th!! What a great start to boxing week.

a in yul
Dec 26th, 2006, 09:28 AM
YES!!! Successfully ordered one in the GTA, scheduled delivery on the 28th!! What a great start to boxing week.

mine is scheduled to arrive tomorrow ..!!, couldnt use the 30off coupon but at least got the 20 off..

thanks for posting..!!

Happy Holidays to all..!!

umlowcn
Dec 26th, 2006, 09:29 AM
Order processed! Scheduled delivery 12/28/2006.
$227.91 after tax with $30 coupon :)

imnew
Dec 26th, 2006, 09:33 AM
OOS in GTA... Again.....

can2000
Dec 26th, 2006, 09:36 AM
mine is scheduled to arrive tomorrow ..!!, couldnt use the 30off coupon but at least got the 20 off..

thanks for posting..!!

Happy Holidays to all..!!

Why wouldnt use 30$ off coupon?

steve66
Dec 26th, 2006, 09:43 AM
1 MIo C310 Portable........is actaully $229.92...says right on the tag and is scanned in at that.....

I just walked in and asked happened to get last one in burlington store......wasnt even really looking for one, but saw it was $200 off......wanted to know where you guys get your $20 off coupon from....bc I was told I could get the discount after today if I bring in the coupon.

anyone know where I print this off from?

hesp
Dec 26th, 2006, 09:45 AM
i read the posts and still trying to figure why this is such a great deal?

Kali
Dec 26th, 2006, 10:02 AM
I just came back from the Yonge/King Staples in Toronto and they had at least 10 units in store. They are located behind the counter in the basement.

That store is always pretty dead on Boxing Day because of the location. I remember a few years ago buying a laptop there on Boxing Day and it was $100 cheaper than Best Buy's doorcrasher price for the exact same computer and the best thing was there were no lineups! I think the ratio of employees to customers was 4:1. :D

highwire
Dec 26th, 2006, 10:20 AM
Sold out at every store in Ottawa. One store admitted none in stock at the beginning of the day. Sometimes it sucks to live here.

SuperManh
Dec 26th, 2006, 10:21 AM
i read the posts and still trying to figure why this is such a great deal?

$200 for a reliable GPS with voice command and touch screen, hackable into a video player. Similar GPS with the same features is upward of $450+

mre
Dec 26th, 2006, 10:31 AM
$200 for a reliable GPS with voice command and touch screen, hackable into a video player. Similar GPS with the same features is upward of $450+

Not to mention that it can run almost any other GPS software as well (TomTom, iGuidance, etc.).

g man
Dec 26th, 2006, 11:09 AM
Ordered last night minutes after they adjusted the price back down, no confirmation email but it shows in my order history including order # and total before taxes.

Order Date: 12/26/2006
Mio C310 GPS Portable Car Navigation System
Item Number 642979 $229.92

Aberfoyle Natural Spring Water 500 mL, 12/Box
Item Number 482671 $2.99

Staples White Nylon Twine, 250'
Item Number 384886 $1.95

Coupon Code # 81741: -$30.00
Delivery Charge: Free
Order Total excl. tax: $204.86

WTF? I'm calling them later, if I don't get this I will boycott Staples. Again!

mblunt
Dec 26th, 2006, 11:29 AM
Ok... well the online flyer is already available and shows $229.92. It also says price available in-store and online Dec26-Jan2.

Here is a link:

Online Flyer (http://staples.flyerservices.com/noncached_pages/STAPR_PU00F1_120_eng_PG0001.asp?SID=862016797&Ref=STAPR_PU00F1_120_eng_PG0002.asp&C=L4H%203H5&T=22,%2022&S=&CC=0)

I'm going to ensure I get my price match. I should end up getting a credit of $33.15.

Called in today and got my price match!!

Final price:

$269.92
-$10.92 (costco price match)
-$29.08 (Boxing day Price Match)
-$30 (online coupon)

= $199.92 * 1.14 = $227.91

What a Great Deal! :)

SAABaru
Dec 26th, 2006, 11:32 AM
What a Deal! 199 before TAX...
Still have 60 units online deal (Vancouver)

careh
Dec 26th, 2006, 11:39 AM
Dunno if this was mentioned before - but the C310 is not rated highly by epinions users. http://www.epinions.com/content_240452406916

Bugs119
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:02 PM
Dunno if this was mentioned before - but the C310 is not rated highly by epinions users. http://www.epinions.com/content_240452406916

It just a end-user comment on MioMap software, not the hardware with crack windows CE running.

kaos25000
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:09 PM
Just ordered one online in Quebec. Got confirmation email instantly. Delivery on the 27th :) Applied the 30$ coupon without any problem with only the Mio in cart.

TurboTronix
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:14 PM
After being all positive about this device I am planning on returning it :(

I really did not like how unstable it got once hacked. The software that it comes with is really disappointing (it took me on longer routes and it had tons of problems recalculating routes once you go off the path suggested). My opinion is based on comparison with my other GPS devices and 3 weeks of testing.

I really don't recommend this to new users since:

1) if you don't hack it then the software is very poor
2) if you hack it tends to become buggy and requires some techy knowledge

The problems I had once hacked were:

1) touchscreen calibration
2) shutting down randomly
3) not powering on (needed soft reset which requires some sort of needle so good luck carrying one around when you are on the road)
4) several memory errors

So I am sadly going to give this one 2 thumbs down (after 3 weeks of GPS testing, letting new users try it out, hacking it numerous ways, resting it to default, playing movies and music, comparing to other GPS devices).

bonzo
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:28 PM
I just ordered this but noticed that this one is selling for 199.95 at staples in the States. I believe the one in the States comes with either 1gb or 2gb is anything different

mblunt
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:34 PM
After being all positive about this device I am planning on returning it :(

I really did not like how unstable it got once hacked. The software that it comes with is really disappointing (it took me on longer routes and it had tons of problems recalculating routes once you go off the path suggested). My opinion is based on comparison with my other GPS devices and 3 weeks of testing.

I really don't recommend this to new users since:

1) if you don't hack it then the software is very poor
2) if you hack it tends to become buggy and requires some techy knowledge

The problems I had once hacked were:

1) touchscreen calibration
2) shutting down randomly
3) not powering on (needed soft reset which requires some sort of needle so good luck carrying one around when you are on the road)
4) several memory errors

So I am sadly going to give this one 2 thumbs down (after 3 weeks of GPS testing, letting new users try it out, hacking it numerous ways, resting it to default, playing movies and music, comparing to other GPS devices).

I have to say I'm pleased with my MioC310Sx.... I won't be hacking mine and there is no other unit you could find for less than $200 that does all that the C310 does. I tried 3 different route settings and I found Economical was the very best... also... this unit is for finding place you don't know how to find not finding quicker routes to places you already know... so I think your expectations are a tad high for this unit... It's not worth the original 469 price tag I agree 100% but for the price it's a real steal.

ryershen
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:35 PM
Does anyone know the difference between Mio C310 sold in Staples and Mio C310SX sold in Costco? If you have bought it from Costco, can you tell me if the AC adapter included? many thanks. After I ordered on Sunday(got an affirm eamil as well), I called Staples today and was told my order didn't go through because of OOS:mad: and all of stores in Toronto area are sold out. I'm thinking of buying it from Costco at the price of $260. I hope "SX" mean something which Staples don't have. Many thanks

mblunt
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:36 PM
I just ordered this but noticed that this one is selling for 199.95 at staples in the States. I believe the one in the States comes with either 1gb or 2gb is anything different

The one in the states comes preloaded with US maps and has an internal 1 GB memory. The canadian one has only 512 meg and has canadian maps pre-loaded.

mblunt
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:39 PM
Does anyone know the difference between Mio C310 sold in Staples and Mio C310SX sold in Costco? If you have bought it froom Costco, can you tell me if the AC adapter included? many thanks. After I ordered on Sunday(got an affirm eamil as well), I called Staples today and was told my order didn't go through because of OOS:mad: and all of stores in Toronto area are sold out. I'm thinking buying it from Costco at the price of $260. I hope "SX" mean something which Staples don't have. Many thanks

Costco once sold the C310s which had the AC charger and older map software. They now sell the exact same C310sx that staples does with Mio Map 3.2 and no AC charger. If you have an IPOD or RAZR phone you can use the same AC Charger they came with.

a in yul
Dec 26th, 2006, 12:59 PM
Why wouldnt use 30$ off coupon?

i initially used the coupon on dec 4, and then it was OOS..

any way to get the 10$ credited..?

(hate to say it but at this price the one from COSTCO is going back, nearly 70$ diff in price..!))

g man
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:17 PM
Boycott staples!

We were unable to apply coupon code 81741 to your order for the
following reason:

Required purchase has not been made order needs to be $200.00

I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you, but the following
item was sold out at the time you placed your order.

642979 | NAME: C310 GPS PORTABLE CAR NAVIGATI
PRICE(EACH): $229.92
QTY: 1
ITEM TOTAL: $229.92

*** Your order is currently on hold***

Harkonnen
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:31 PM
Boycott staples!

We were unable to apply coupon code 81741 to your order for the
following reason:

Required purchase has not been made order needs to be $200.00

I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you, but the following
item was sold out at the time you placed your order.

642979 | NAME: C310 GPS PORTABLE CAR NAVIGATI
PRICE(EACH): $229.92
QTY: 1
ITEM TOTAL: $229.92

*** Your order is currently on hold***

When did you get this? While ordering or after? I got an e-mail saying that it'll be delivered on the 28th and thanks for purchasing from Staples.ca blah blah blah...

g man
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:34 PM
When did you get this? While ordering or after? I got an e-mail saying that it'll be delivered on the 28th and thanks for purchasing from Staples.ca blah blah blah...

Ordered last nite within a few minutes of the price going back to $229, got the OOs message today @ 11:00 am.

magicBC
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:38 PM
I bought my Mio c310 about ten days ago. Just called in to Staples and they assured me they'd price guarantee with the flyer, just not to bring it in today. Life is good!

Harkonnen
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:41 PM
Ordered last nite within a few minutes of the price going back to $229, got the OOs message today @ 11:00 am.

Has anyone else gotten a "purchase on hold" e-mail?

thomasnsx
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:43 PM
does anyone know the refund policy for staples, i got this 10 days ago at presale price of 269$. How many days after shiped date can I refund it? So, I got it online. Can I refund it at any store? Or can I price match it to boxing day price?

thanks.

ryershen
Dec 26th, 2006, 01:48 PM
OK, After my first order was canceled due of OOS, I called Staples just now, they told me they restacked in my area(L6G1C7) with 9 items. I placed an order right away, after $30 coupon(81741), the total price after tax is $227 :) . they will deliver on 28th. If your shipping address is within this area, call them RIGHT NOW, only 7 or 8 left, I guess :razz:

dracore
Dec 26th, 2006, 02:06 PM
Which staples is that? Looks like markham area...right?


OK, After my first order was canceled due of OOS, I called Staples just now, they told me they restacked in my area(L6G1C7) with 9 items. I placed an order right away, after $30 coupon(81741), the total price after tax is $227 :) . they will deliver on 28th. If your shipping address is within this area, call them RIGHT NOW, only 7 or 8 left, I guess :razz:

ryershen
Dec 26th, 2006, 02:21 PM
Which staples is that? Looks like markham area...right?
Yes

ryershen
Dec 26th, 2006, 02:27 PM
does anyone know the refund policy for staples, i got this 10 days ago at presale price of 269$. How many days after shiped date can I refund it? So, I got it online. Can I refund it at any store? Or can I price match it to boxing day price?

thanks.
30 days refund
http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Static/static_pages.asp?pagename=help_policy_returns
30 days Price Matching
http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Static/static_pages.asp?pagename=help_policy_pricematch

dracore
Dec 26th, 2006, 02:37 PM
What # did you call? I called their 1800 number to place an order but the guy said he couldn't tell how many were in the stores... and from his database, it showed ooos

Yes

ryershen
Dec 26th, 2006, 02:42 PM
What # did you call? I called their 1800 number to place an order but the guy said he couldn't tell how many were in the stores... and from his database, it showed ooos
1-877-360-8500
I think the stock status is depending on your shipping address. 8 pieces can be easily sold out in minutes

dracore
Dec 26th, 2006, 02:45 PM
Markham... richmondhill, they're pretty similar aren't they? :)


1-877-360-8500
I think the stock status is depending on your shipping address. 8 pieces can be easily sold out in minutes

michael1996
Dec 26th, 2006, 02:49 PM
wtf, they even cancel my order placed yesterday.:confused:

ryershen
Dec 26th, 2006, 02:50 PM
Markham... richmondhill, they're pretty similar aren't they? :)
Geographically,they are next to each other. But in their database, might be two independent areas. I'm not sure, though

hero
Dec 26th, 2006, 04:45 PM
Kali,

Thanks for the post!!
I went to this store right after I saw your post and see they still have lots of boxes of C310 at the cashier. Not many ppl and no line up...got mine at around 2pm.

I just came back from the Yonge/King Staples in Toronto and they had at least 10 units in store. They are located behind the counter in the basement.

That store is always pretty dead on Boxing Day because of the location. I remember a few years ago buying a laptop there on Boxing Day and it was $100 cheaper than Best Buy's doorcrasher price for the exact same computer and the best thing was there were no lineups! I think the ratio of employees to customers was 4:1. :D

TurboTronix
Dec 26th, 2006, 04:56 PM
I forgot to mention another problem that several people had as well:

1) Sucktion cap on the holder does not hold and tends to fall.

Solution:

Spray it with Silicon spray (thats Silicon spray not glue lol) and it will hold like never before (ever since I sprayed it, it never fell!!) :cheesygri

I am not saying it is a bad device, I am just saying for the problems I had with it, I rather not keep it no matter what price its at (not reliable).

Bugs119
Dec 26th, 2006, 06:17 PM
Just recevied a e-mail from staples and I got my $33 back from PM I bought my MIo 310 few days ago at $259.. :lol:

can2000
Dec 26th, 2006, 06:46 PM
wtf, they even cancel my order placed yesterday.:confused:

What time did you place your order? And what time did you get the cancellation email?

michael1996
Dec 26th, 2006, 07:28 PM
What time did you place your order? And what time did you get the cancellation email?

early morning. They didn't send me email. I called to ask for the price adjustment. :-0

can2000
Dec 26th, 2006, 07:42 PM
early morning. They didn't send me email. I called to ask for the price adjustment. :-0

So, you bought it few days ago, right?

rdarkman68
Dec 26th, 2006, 09:56 PM
I bought my Mio c310 about ten days ago. Just called in to Staples and they assured me they'd price guarantee with the flyer, just not to bring it in today. Life is good!

I went to the staple store I bought it at. They say they will not do it, and no store would be doing it. Which store did you get this? Is it possible for me to do price adjustment at other locations than Markham if i bought it there?

rainbow5798
Dec 26th, 2006, 10:24 PM
I just ordered one, says there are 73 left in my area. Vancouver Island. meant to say also used the $30 code. I also just got my confirmation email.

magicBC
Dec 26th, 2006, 10:24 PM
I went to the staple store I bought it at. They say they will not do it, and no store would be doing it. Which store did you get this? Is it possible for me to do price adjustment at other locations than Markham if i bought it there?


I bought the unit online, and phoned Staples this morning. They are located on Tolmie AVE. in Victoria, BC. Haven't got my clams back yet, but plan on taking my shopping cart screen capture showing valid $30 off coupon on a $229 Mio C310. But the store attendant said they would honor the price guarantee- I'll let everyone know tomorrow.

nirvanatiger
Dec 26th, 2006, 11:55 PM
I got one......used my motorola RZR charger and it worked......too bad mine did not come with a home charger.
Version is a 3.2

Does this mean that I need to buy a motorola charger somewhere before I can use it? :confused: How did those guys without moto charger use it? only using car charger?!>:(

can2000
Dec 27th, 2006, 12:23 AM
There are more than 999 available in QC now. :confused:

ekoc
Dec 27th, 2006, 12:31 AM
Does this mean that I need to buy a motorola charger somewhere before I can use it? :confused: How did those guys without moto charger use it? only using car charger?!>:(
You can use pc usb to charge your mio

nirvanatiger
Dec 27th, 2006, 12:35 AM
You can use pc usb to charge your mio

That sounds not too bad. :cheesygri thanks.

carnifex2005
Dec 27th, 2006, 12:50 AM
Sorry if this has been posted before, but what is the big difference between the C210 and the C310?
I've never bought a GPS before so I haven't the slightest in what makes a "good" one.
The C210 is $199 at Futureshop.ca and the C310 in $229 at Staples.ca.
TIA

dracore
Dec 27th, 2006, 12:59 AM
I just scored one mio gps in my region for $229..and applied the $30 off to become $199+tax, about half-hour ago.

After making this one order, the mio promptly went back to OOS so it looks like I got the last one.

Have not received any confirmation of the order yet through email. Hopefully that'll come soon.

AzNCrAzYcOoLeR
Dec 27th, 2006, 01:03 AM
damm, I wanna buy one. I hope they restock tomorrow

magicBC
Dec 27th, 2006, 01:58 AM
Sorry if this has been posted before, but what is the big difference between the C210 and the C310?
I've never bought a GPS before so I haven't the slightest in what makes a "good" one.
The C210 is $199 at Futureshop.ca and the C310 in $229 at Staples.ca.
TIA

One of the big differences is screen real estate. The C310 has a 3.5" diagonal screen while to C210 has a much tinnier one. With my eyes, I need the 310.

cy
Dec 27th, 2006, 06:23 AM
it's gonna be hard for me to exchange my older version for the 3.2 since it's OOS everywhere, especially when I purchased this almost a month ago.

Sent CS an email to: 1) Price guarantee 2) Exchange.

Hopefully I'll get either or both achieved.

saku
Dec 27th, 2006, 07:21 AM
Congratulations!

It looks you didint sleep last evening:?:

Nope...nice find

can2000
Dec 27th, 2006, 09:21 AM
Wow...just received mine from Staples.
Thanks OP!

a in yul
Dec 27th, 2006, 10:05 AM
Wow...just received mine from Staples.
Thanks OP!

just got mine this morning as well, quick question, i know the answer is here somewhere but i went through about 20 posts and didnt find it;

whats better the 310s or the 310sx?

thanks to all,

a.

Harkonnen
Dec 27th, 2006, 10:25 AM
just got mine this morning as well, quick question, i know the answer is here somewhere but i went through about 20 posts and didnt find it;

whats better the 310s or the 310sx?

thanks to all,

a.

I think SX is better than S. The difference being the amount of onboard ram; see this post for breakdown: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4266748&postcount=222

can2000
Dec 27th, 2006, 10:33 AM
There will be a unit going back to Staples Edmonton Centre by Wednesday. I picked up a 310x from Staples Jantzen Beach.

As far as ram goes, a previous poster is correct in that the 310s is only 512MB of rom. From the wiki on these units:



Now we know that any unit with a P/N ending in 007 has 512MB.
So:
0007: 512MB
0026: 2GB
0025: 1GB
0022: 1GB


The P/N of Mine is 0029

btw, how long to charge the GPS with USB cable for the first time?
Thanks

a in yul
Dec 27th, 2006, 10:34 AM
I think SX is better than S. The difference being the amount of onboard ram; see this post for breakdown: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4266748&postcount=222

funny thing is the 310s is from costco and the sx is from staples..., who wouda thought..??

but for 70$ less i guess staples it is..!!

EDIT: the s/n for me is 001 and the other one is 908..??

bramsey
Dec 27th, 2006, 11:09 AM
Just so you are aware, I know it has been said before, the Box from Staples has C310S on it but inside is the C310SX unit. At least mine was.

aquariaguy
Dec 27th, 2006, 11:24 AM
Does anyone know the coupon code?

a in yul
Dec 27th, 2006, 11:28 AM
Just so you are aware, I know it has been said before, the Box from Staples has C310S on it but inside is the C310SX unit. At least mine was.

yeah, i noticed the same on my delivery this morning..!!

i seem to have misplaced their 1800 #, anyone have it handy..? thx

EDIT: ok, got it. thx.

carnifex2005
Dec 27th, 2006, 11:41 AM
Does anyone know the coupon code?

The coupon code is 81741. It worked for me last night. I decided to buy it last night and luckily for me I did. Unfortunately the unit is now being shown as sold out. I think I got the second to last one before the guy a few posts above got the last one. I bought it about 2 minutes before he did.

mblunt
Dec 27th, 2006, 12:04 PM
One of the big differences is screen real estate. The C310 has a 3.5" diagonal screen while to C210 has a much tinnier one. With my eyes, I need the 310.

Also the C210 is shaped like the Garmin i5 (bulky like a mini-tv) and it takes batteries rather than have a rechargable internal battery.

redmileage99
Dec 27th, 2006, 12:24 PM
For those who missed the deal yesterday, there are still 5 mio 310s available at staples Yonge and Richmond around 12:15pm today.

AzNCrAzYcOoLeR
Dec 27th, 2006, 12:36 PM
For those who missed the deal yesterday, there are still 5 mio 310s available at staples Yonge and Richmond around 12:15pm today.

THANKS!

clammydog
Dec 27th, 2006, 12:41 PM
For those who missed the deal yesterday, there are still 5 mio 310s available at staples Yonge and Richmond around 12:15pm today.

HAHA! Thanks. There seemed to be stock online earlier this morning but by the time I checked out it was gone from my shopping cart!

Harkonnen
Dec 27th, 2006, 01:00 PM
^ I thought that when you add something to your cart, it's locks one unit for you?

Registered
Dec 27th, 2006, 01:08 PM
Received mine this morning - looks like its the 512 M version :(

mblunt
Dec 27th, 2006, 01:12 PM
Has anyone with the new mio 310SX been able to transmit maps or restore the Mio 3.2 software directly from the DVD to the unit via USB? Mine continues to say "can not connect to device."

The mio transfer software on the other hand works fine. So I know it can't be a connectivity problem.

I'm starting to think the DVD features don't work with the current version of the Mio C310. Has anyone had some success?

clammydog
Dec 27th, 2006, 01:15 PM
^ I thought that when you add something to your cart, it's locks one unit for you?

Apparently not. Either that or they never actually had stock to begin with.

SAABaru
Dec 27th, 2006, 01:24 PM
Costco.ca removed this C310 from their GPS list for some reason...
only Mio C710 is there.

elmokiddo
Dec 27th, 2006, 01:48 PM
Just recieved mine, C310s, PN ends in 0124 - Not sure if its 512m

habs28
Dec 27th, 2006, 01:52 PM
I just hacked my Mio 310 but I accedently deleted a directory (or folders) witch contained the Contact and Photo sections unter the folder (My flash disk)

this is what is left under that directory

Miomap
mnav_ucf
MP3
and Ulits Folders

and two files

Setting.dat and config.sys

can someone tell me if I am missing data as my desktop icons are link to missing folders can some one help and copiy the folders that I am missing and send it over to me so I can fix my device cery much appriciate

AzNCrAzYcOoLeR
Dec 27th, 2006, 02:05 PM
yes, got one from the downtown location. 2 more when I left. Waked up to eaton centre and they got their shipment of WII at EB

Mine is also 0124

torowl
Dec 27th, 2006, 02:21 PM
The P/N of Mine is 0029

btw, how long to charge the GPS with USB cable for the first time?
Thanks

Both 310s and 310sx are Canadian model, both should be 512 flash inside. The different is the mapping software, 310s is Destinator, and 310sx is Miomap (or iGo).

elmokiddo
Dec 27th, 2006, 02:21 PM
Just recieved mine, C310s, PN ends in 0124 - Not sure if its 512m

The Tag on the unit itself indicates that it is a C310SX...

a in yul
Dec 27th, 2006, 02:27 PM
Both 310s and 310sx are Canadian model, both should be 512 flash inside. The different is the mapping software, 310s is Destinator, and 310sx is Miomap (or iGo).

I have both cds, from costco and from staples, should i make a backup..?

benefit there..?

magicBC
Dec 27th, 2006, 02:32 PM
Just received a price guarantee in the amount of $45 from Staples in Victoria. The first two clerks I talked to did not want to give me my clams, but as it moved higher up the food chain a person finally recognized the price guarantee and refunded the difference. The other two people said they weren't price matching on the boxing day flyers. So, all in all, I paid $199 for the Mio- a good deal considering I've hacked it with the help of people from these forums- thanks for all the assistance.

torowl
Dec 27th, 2006, 02:58 PM
I have both cds, from costco and from staples, should i make a backup..?

benefit there..?

I would do that. I have compared Miomap, Destinator and iGuidance. Miomap has the best interface, but menu is more complicate. Destinator interface is so so, but the menu is very simple, easy to use. I’m not sure the Miomap software in 310sx model, from the software that I have, Destinator have more POIs than Miomap in Canada. I will let my wife to use Destinator, it will be easier for her. iGuidance has the worst interface, but it is more accurate. I will keep these three in my unit.

a in yul
Dec 27th, 2006, 03:17 PM
I would do that. I have compared Miomap, Destinator and iGuidance. Miomap has the best interface, but menu is more complicate. Destinator interface is so so, but the menu is very simple, easy to use. I’m not sure the Miomap software in 310sx model, from the software that I have, Destinator have more POIs than Miomap in Canada. I will let my wife to use Destinator, it will be easier for her. iGuidance has the worst interface, but it is more accurate. I will keep these three in my unit.

o, i will make a copy of the cds, but i was under the impression we can downlaod the progs on the net..??

tarnator
Dec 27th, 2006, 03:27 PM
super pleased to have received mine for $199! However, we will now return the one that we bought in store (as a back up, just in case...)

What do people find with the maps? they seem OK only. One route sent us under a bridge instead of on to it! Would a Garmin do this? Is it worth trying updating the maps or trying to hack one of the other navigation systems?????

Also, the POIs seem pretty spotty - didn't have a major downtown mall on the system!

Harkonnen
Dec 27th, 2006, 03:38 PM
super pleased to have received mine for $199! However, we will now return the one that we bought in store (as a back up, just in case...)

What do people find with the maps? they seem OK only. One route sent us under a bridge instead of on to it! Would a Garmin do this? Is it worth trying updating the maps or trying to hack one of the other navigation systems?????

Also, the POIs seem pretty spotty - didn't have a major downtown mall on the system!

I've bought one, yet haven't received it , looking forward to using it and keeping it, so i'm speaking from the point of view of trying to convince myself that it's not crap before I actually get my hands on it; but have you updated the maps? Maybe it might make it better?

tarnator
Dec 27th, 2006, 03:43 PM
It is true that I haven't updated the maps yet. How do I do this?

dracore
Dec 27th, 2006, 06:36 PM
Crap
my order that i submitted lastnight got cancelled because it's OOS. :(

pi20
Dec 27th, 2006, 06:55 PM
I bought my mio on Dec. 24 When it was still $269.99, and used a $20.00 coupon off plus taxes comes out to about $284.91. Is there a way to get a price match for this item for $229.00 - 30.00 coupon plus taxes???

Or do I have to return the item in store and puchase it cheaper again.

THanks.

saku
Dec 27th, 2006, 07:04 PM
I bought my mio on Dec. 24 When it was still $269.99, and used a $20.00 coupon off plus taxes comes out to about $284.91. Is there a way to get a price match for this item for $229.00 - 30.00 coupon plus taxes???

Or do I have to return the item in store and puchase it cheaper again.

THanks.

I bought my mio a week before for the same price u mentioned. I ordered the unit online with $30 coupon yesterday early morning. Today morning, i returned the purchased unit at the local staples. Expecting my mio tomorrow morning. Lot of transactions in 3 days.

FYI, i used TD Visa Green card to buy my mio as it extends the warranty to an additional year for free.

i hope it helps.:)

coolwarm
Dec 27th, 2006, 07:37 PM
I just got mine. But when I slide the ON/OFF switch to the ON position, nothing happens, and the power button seems not performance as well:mad: . Anyone has the same problem?

Harkonnen
Dec 27th, 2006, 08:05 PM
I just got mine. But when I slide the ON/OFF switch to the ON position, nothing happens, and the power button seems not performance as well:mad: . Anyone has the same problem?

Are you sure it's charged? From what I read online on RFD, I'm under the impression that the unit doesn't come charged.

carnifex2005
Dec 27th, 2006, 08:13 PM
Crap
my order that i submitted lastnight got cancelled because it's OOS. :(

Did you get a confirmation e-mail?

coolwarm
Dec 27th, 2006, 08:30 PM
Are you sure it's charged? From what I read online on RFD, I'm under the impression that the unit doesn't come charged.

You're right, it required charge. Thanks. :)
Anyway, the user manual/quick start guide does not indicate this, only following the quick start guide will confuse users outside this forum.

can2000
Dec 27th, 2006, 08:40 PM
Are you sure it's charged? From what I read online on RFD, I'm under the impression that the unit doesn't come charged.

Mine came with 50% charge.

The Black Pearl
Dec 27th, 2006, 09:12 PM
I didn't see this post until tonight. I was looking for the coupon code for Staples so I could use it to by this GPS unit yesterday. It should be here Thursday (tomorrow) according to Staples. Glad to see I'm not the only one that took a chance on buying this item. I wasn't sure if it was going to be worth the money.

andreid
Dec 27th, 2006, 09:19 PM
http://vancouver.craigslist.org/ele/253022272.html

Alright, there is the crucial map of Malaysia but isn't the price a bit steep?

Cheers

The Black Pearl
Dec 27th, 2006, 09:32 PM
Any body think about adding an external antenna to this GPS unit?

ekoc
Dec 27th, 2006, 09:56 PM
I bought my mio on Dec. 24 When it was still $269.99, and used a $20.00 coupon off plus taxes comes out to about $284.91. Is there a way to get a price match for this item for $229.00 - 30.00 coupon plus taxes???

Or do I have to return the item in store and puchase it cheaper again.

THanks.
Call staples (1-877-360-8500) for price protection, they will credit back for you

a in yul
Dec 27th, 2006, 10:09 PM
Call staples (1-877-360-8500) for price protection, they will credit back for you

super easy and fast too..., really great price now that u think of it..!

dracore
Dec 27th, 2006, 10:16 PM
Yup came in this morning in my e-mail. Said they were OOS so I should try to resubmit the order 1-2 wks later :evil:

Did you get a confirmation e-mail?

a in yul
Dec 27th, 2006, 10:18 PM
Yup came in this morning in my e-mail. Said they were OOS so I should try to resubmit the order 1-2 wks later :evil:

just checked, there are 74 units as of 10:11pm EST..., go go go...!!

dracore
Dec 27th, 2006, 10:25 PM
Actually that's a little strange. My Order History still shows that my order is there... even though I received the email that they're OOS. What does that mean?

And it seems like I can't use the coupon again if I try to add the mio back into my cart -- it says that it's already used ??


Yup came in this morning in my e-mail. Said they were OOS so I should try to resubmit the order 1-2 wks later :evil:

imnew
Dec 27th, 2006, 10:33 PM
Back in stock again.... just ordered... with 30.00 coupon..

dracore
Dec 27th, 2006, 10:36 PM
Same here. Forget about ordering off the website.. don't know why it's not accepting my coupon even though my order is supposedly cancelled. Just called staples and ordered off the phone with $30off

GoodDeal
Dec 27th, 2006, 10:36 PM
I just got mine. But when I slide the ON/OFF switch to the ON position, nothing happens, and the power button seems not performance as well:mad: . Anyone has the same problem?

I had the same problem and thought the unit was defective. You have to charge it for 30 minutes before you can turn it on.

redmileage99
Dec 27th, 2006, 10:36 PM
I put 81741 in divident$ number field. But I didn't get $30 off. Please tell me how to use this coupon code.

redmileage99
Dec 27th, 2006, 10:41 PM
Help please. It's going to be gone soon.

impulsebuy
Dec 27th, 2006, 10:41 PM
coupon codes can only be used ONCE regardless of whether or not your order was cancelled or not(correct me if im wrong?)
Easy way to get around this is to make more than 1 account.

dracore
Dec 27th, 2006, 10:44 PM
you put it under the Redeem Coupon section when you order

Help please. It's going to be gone soon.

redmileage99
Dec 27th, 2006, 10:49 PM
Thanks a lot. It's my first time order from staples.

clammydog
Dec 27th, 2006, 11:04 PM
Finally snagged one! No problem using the $30 coupon.

mikesxf
Dec 27th, 2006, 11:31 PM
$199 before tax is hot! Ordered another one

currently using the one from costco on my trip in states. hugely useful !

clammydog
Dec 27th, 2006, 11:36 PM
$199 before tax is hot! Ordered another one

currently using the one from costco on my trip in states. hugely useful !

Are the USA maps preloaded? If not, were they easy to install? Thanks.

g man
Dec 27th, 2006, 11:55 PM
20 left in ON if staples stock can be believed. Bought one in-store so there's an extra unit left online for others, fill yer boots!

can2000
Dec 28th, 2006, 12:08 AM
71 left in QC.

dracore
Dec 28th, 2006, 12:23 AM
999 left in Ontario!

My cart currently has $229690.00 worth of mios!!

Aceace
Dec 28th, 2006, 12:51 AM
I ordered one yesterday for $229. I called back today and told them I forgot to apply the coupon and they gave me back the $30!!

Can't wait to get it.

dracore
Dec 28th, 2006, 01:05 AM
Just wondering... what happens if the Li-ion battery in the mio ever dies? Is the battery replaceable?

jochooi
Dec 28th, 2006, 02:01 AM
To be honest the battery life isn't all that great even after a full charge. I suppose if the battery life did crap out then you are stuck with the in-car charger permanently.

BooR4dL3y
Dec 28th, 2006, 04:59 AM
I ordered one Tuesday morning. Wednesday morning it was delivered - next day delivery! Wasn't really expecting it to come so soon. Anyways, haven't tried it out yet.

parry
Dec 28th, 2006, 08:01 AM
Ordered. Thanks to all.

Delroy666
Dec 28th, 2006, 08:24 AM
Call staples (1-877-360-8500) for price protection, they will credit back for you

I also bought the Mio at the higher price before Xmas. Called this number, the girl asked for my order # and said the difference would be credited back to my CC. "That was easy!"

I tried the unit out yesterday and it works very well. The GPS chipset they used is excellent.. it actually picked up my position when I was in my basement. My two other GPS units (an older Lowrance and a Zire 72/Bluetooth GPS) won't pick up a signal indoors, not to mention in my basement. Good deal, especially at $200.

carmaster
Dec 28th, 2006, 08:36 AM
How do you charge the unit since it comes with no ac adaptor?

dgmorr
Dec 28th, 2006, 08:36 AM
I also bought the Mio at the higher price before Xmas. Called this number, the girl asked for my order # and said the difference would be credited back to my CC. "That was easy!"

I tried the unit out yesterday and it works very well. The GPS chipset they used is excellent.. it actually picked up my position when I was in my basement. My two other GPS units (an older Lowrance and a Zire 72/Bluetooth GPS) won't pick up a signal indoors, not to mention in my basement. Good deal, especially at $200.

What number did you call? Just customer service?

wlee
Dec 28th, 2006, 08:39 AM
ordered one, couldn't resist ;)

rogue
Dec 28th, 2006, 09:07 AM
ordered one, couldn't resist ;)

Was the same last night lol....and have delivery scheduled for tomorrow :)

JP
Dec 28th, 2006, 09:10 AM
How do you charge the unit since it comes with no ac adaptor?

USB

Aske001
Dec 28th, 2006, 10:18 AM
If you've just purchased the Mio C310 and you're thinking that the manual is pretty sketchy on the details of the user interface, the MioMap 3.2 software is actually from iGo, and you can download the complete manual here: http://www.i-go.com/download/iGO_2006_SD_User_Manual_UK_v1_09.pdf

Most of the iGo functions that are missing on the Mio C310 can be unlocked, for example exporting track logs to Google Earth in gpx format. Detailed directions can be found on the forums already referenced earlier in this thread.

Mio has stated that they will release an update to the iGo software and the TeleAtlas maps early in 2007, but it will NOT be free to current owners.

We should really start a thread under Computers and Electronics for this type of information, so I'll do that.
Here: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=384938

SeeWhy2
Dec 28th, 2006, 10:45 AM
Good morning,
Does anyone know what directory the cab file goes to?
TIA,

GiOBoY
Dec 28th, 2006, 11:23 AM
W00t .. just ordered for 229 less $30 coupon code (81741) .. thx OP. :cheesygri

umlowcn
Dec 28th, 2006, 12:17 PM
Mine is scheduled for shipping today. It's past 12pm now, still waiting :(

Vasuldiabl
Dec 28th, 2006, 01:15 PM
The canada map included in the software package of my mio C310SX from staples is 84 megs.

Is the one disscussed earlier in the thread is better than the one with my mio? Because the one in the thread is only aprox. 50 megs.

Harkonnen
Dec 28th, 2006, 01:23 PM
I believe the larger one has more POI's than the smaller one.

gheart008
Dec 28th, 2006, 02:11 PM
hmm... anyone having a problem where the unit keeps losing the GPS signal and notifies you with the voice stating "GPS signal lost"? This keeps happening. Sometimes the signal doesn't come back for a while, sometimes it comes back in a few seconds... and I'm talking about just sitting in a stationary location.

Suggestions on what I can do to prevent it from losing its signal all the time?

lobodog3
Dec 28th, 2006, 02:41 PM
thanks $227.91
delevery set for friday
i hope it's good:cheesygri

fallenleaf
Dec 28th, 2006, 02:43 PM
hmm that's weird, it never happened to me, only if I go into some building or my house it would lose the signal otherwise the signal is pretty strong once I am outside.


hmm... anyone having a problem where the unit keeps losing the GPS signal and notifies you with the voice stating "GPS signal lost"? This keeps happening. Sometimes the signal doesn't come back for a while, sometimes it comes back in a few seconds... and I'm talking about just sitting in a stationary location.

Suggestions on what I can do to prevent it from losing its signal all the time?

treo22
Dec 28th, 2006, 02:59 PM
thanks to the OP, picked one up too...

For those that want/need an updated alaska, hawaii and canada map the following link provides instructions and best of all; free..

http://www.my-guide.de/support/

I looked at the site, how do I use these maps? Are they newer and more up-to-date?
Thanks

ksengage
Dec 28th, 2006, 03:18 PM
how is this in stock for you? did you enter a code?

SeeWhy2
Dec 28th, 2006, 03:24 PM
Good morning,
Does anyone know what directory the cab file goes to?
TIA,

Thanks to Jrawk!
Put cab file in temp folder, Go thru MIO explorer to file - double click and it extracts to program files. Mine works like a charm and allows exiting out of Maps and back to desktop. As always it may work differently for different folks.
FYI,

magicBC
Dec 28th, 2006, 03:29 PM
Good morning,
Does anyone know what directory the cab file goes to?
TIA,
I try to keep all my cab files on an SD card that I keep plugged in to the Mio. That way, in case of disaster, I can just double tap on the cabs and they automatically open.

dav1209
Dec 28th, 2006, 04:00 PM
super HOT.....now back instock so act fast
also for the peoples who order before Xmas just call their 1-877-360-8500 to get the price protection....
$229 plus $30 rebate comeout to $199
super hot deals...
either you have it ...call them back and get the price protection....or if you don't have it...just order it rightnow even you don't know what is it about....
you can spend time playing with the unit later....
best product of the year.
put Iguidance and Video player on...and you have super GPS plus and pocket media player....with 3.5 Inches touch screen...
ALL FOR LESS THAN $200

GiOBoY
Dec 28th, 2006, 06:02 PM
Only 89 more available online in the GTA .. I wonder how long it will take to consume the rest.

Aske001
Dec 28th, 2006, 06:43 PM
hmm... anyone having a problem where the unit keeps losing the GPS signal and notifies you with the voice stating "GPS signal lost"? This keeps happening. Sometimes the signal doesn't come back for a while, sometimes it comes back in a few seconds... and I'm talking about just sitting in a stationary location.

Suggestions on what I can do to prevent it from losing its signal all the time?

If you look at the satellite display, it shows you where the satellites currently above the horizon are supposed to be, and you can verify whether something is blocking your line of sight. This display isn't quite as clear as the Magellan and Garmin equivalents that actually show you positioned on the earth, but the information is essentially the same, with North Up. The signal strength bars on the side show you which satellites are being received and how strongly. As you hold the GPS unit in front of your body and turn slowly around, you will see that the signal strength falls and disappears on each satellite as your body passes through the line of sight from the unit to the satellite. Satellites low on the horizon (farther from the earth centre on the Mio display) are more easily blocked.

next
Dec 28th, 2006, 07:01 PM
couldn't resist, got one yesterday, while not so good as I thought particularly with the itinerary arrangement

SeeWhy2
Dec 28th, 2006, 07:50 PM
I try to keep all my cab files on an SD card that I keep plugged in to the Mio. That way, in case of disaster, I can just double tap on the cabs and they automatically open.

Good idea!
Thanks,

umlowcn
Dec 28th, 2006, 08:40 PM
Waited whole day and didn't receive mine at all!!! I was so pissed and called to cancel the order! Will never order from Staples again!

yaoll78
Dec 28th, 2006, 10:27 PM
got mine today without a ac charger.can i charge it via computer usb cause i don't want to go to my car in a cold night:mad:

mblunt
Dec 28th, 2006, 10:50 PM
Has anyone with the new mio 310SX been able to transmit maps or restore the Mio 3.2 software directly from the DVD to the unit via USB? Mine continues to say "can not connect to device."

The mio transfer software on the other hand works fine. So I know it can't be a connectivity problem.

I'm starting to think the DVD features don't work with the current version of the Mio C310. Has anyone had some success?

I fixed my own problem! Just ensure you have Macromedia Flash 9.0 installed and your DVD transfer features will work fine.

can2000
Dec 28th, 2006, 11:22 PM
got mine today without a ac charger.can i charge it via computer usb cause i don't want to go to my car in a cold night:mad:

Yes, usb cable can charge it as well.

gheart008
Dec 29th, 2006, 04:47 AM
hmm that's weird, it never happened to me, only if I go into some building or my house it would lose the signal otherwise the signal is pretty strong once I am outside.

Ya everytime I turn the unit on, and on again, there's no signal for like a minute or so, sometimes even longer....

... think I got a defective unit?

Edit: hmmm.... reading a bit more online reviews, seems this is a common problem with this model, but I'm still curious if this is happening to anyone else here.

sunny923
Dec 29th, 2006, 05:31 AM
I have used Garmin C330 for a month and I am very pleased with it, however, it's very, very easy to lose signal in downtown Toronto area, this is very annoying because think it this way, when you go to a strange area with big buildings surrounding it, and try to find a nearest parking lot or your destination is around there, surely you are screwed because the C330 will lose the signal. I decided to get the MIO C310 since it has SIRFSTARIII chipset. I got the MIO C310 from stOOpleS two days ago and tried it for few times, I was very impressed with the MIO C310 when I opened the box. In terms of appearance, it is a slim, beautiful and well made unit, it’s much better than the Garmin C330 which is bulky and *ugly*. The MIO C310 I got has MIOMAP 3.2. The C330 I use has North America NT V8.

For feature wise, MIO C310 has more features than the Garmin C330:

1. MP3 player. This is not really important but it is nice to have it.

2. Satellite screen. You can see all the Satellite over the horizon. C330 can’t.

3. When you locate POI on the MAP, MIO C310 shows more detail information around it. For example, if you locate DIXIE MALL, it will show some of the stores around it as well. Another example, if I locate 35 Finch Ave. East, it will show CHICAGO Condominium and its concierge phone no.

4. You can view the coordinate information while the C330 doesn’t have it.

5. Speed warning. The MIO C310 can warn you if your speed is over the speed limit.

6. You can hack the C310 to play video, view photos ….

7. There might be more but these are I’ve found so far.

One big advantage of MIO C310 over Garmin C330 is that the MIO C310 has very strong signal everywhere. When acquiring satellite, it’s a lot faster than the C330. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT WON’T LOSE SIGNAL IN DOWNTOWN TORONTO AREA. That being said, the MIO C310 will likely maintain proper signal no matter what surroundings are around the road.

For operational wise, MIO C310 is *horrible*:

1. The Garmin C330 is way easier to use. Simpler and Intuitive interface.

2. Battery life seems longer on the C330. I fully charged the MIO C310 and just used it for 30 mins max yesterday, today when I turned it on again, it’s only half left?! When I fully charged the C330, I showed me full after used for 30 mins.

3. The C330 has louder and clearer voice; I can use the C330 and listen to radio at the same time in the car. The voice is loud enough even my car stereo is on (at a fairly loud volume). With the MIO C310, you can’t.

4. When viewing map, C330 is a lot better. The roads on the Mio show jagged edges, yet they are perfectly smooth on the C330. The display is also clearer; font is bigger and easier to read.

5. Navigation. This is the most frustrating part of the MIO C310. The POIs on the MIO C310 is way outdated. I can successfully locate every gas station, Canadian tire, shopping centre near my home with C330 while MIO C310 can’t. You can’t even locate TORONTO ZOO with the MIO C310. This is horrible considering Toronto zoo has been around for so many years. The voice prompt is also a lot better on the C330. For turns, the C330 will prompt you make a left turn in 500m, 250m,…and IT WILL PROMPT YOU TURN LEFT when you are approaching the intersection. The MIO C310 won’t. It just prompt you turn in 500m,50m or take next right turn and that's it. It won’t tell you to turn when you are approaching the intersection. Also after you make a turn, the C330 will tell you “ In 2.5km make a left turn” ahead so you know you can keep on the left lane. The MIO C310 won’t tell you the direction ahead. It just tell you go 2.5km and prompt you the turn only when you are approaching the intersection. The last thing is when you are arriving the destination, the C330 will prompt you “Arriving Destination on your right( or left )” yet the MIO C310 just prompt you “Arrive Destination”, it doesn’t tell you whether it is on your left or right.

6. Accuracy. The C330 is very Accurate with WAAS enabled. THE MIO C310 is not. Actually it seems like sometimes it will be off 10-20 meters from the target.


All in all, based on my experiences, I have to give 2 thumbs down to the MIO C310 unless they can improve their map and software. My suggestion is stick with Garmin and you won’t be disappointed. If you are looking for a GPS now, get the one with SIRFSTARIII chipset. NUVI series or C5xx series from Garmin will serve you good. I don’t own a TOMTOM but I guess Garmin is better since it use Navteg Map. I suggest you do not buy the Garmin C3xx series since it doesn't have SIRFSTARIII chipset.

PS, the MIO C310 will go back to stOOpleS for sure.

sunny923
Dec 29th, 2006, 05:41 AM
Ya everytime I turn the unit on, and on again, there's no signal for like a minute or so, sometimes even longer....

... think I got a defective unit?

Edit: hmmm.... reading a bit more online reviews, seems this is a common problem with this model, but I'm still curious if this is happening to anyone else here.

It depends on whether it is a "cold start" or not. If ur unit is off for 4 hours or more, it might need a cold start which is normal for 1 min. Actually, 1 min is very fast acquiring time for a cold start already.

sergiepopov
Dec 29th, 2006, 07:19 AM
Richmond Hill stooples had 15 in stock last night, going for 199, taxes on top.
Good looking unit.

mjdavila
Dec 29th, 2006, 07:52 AM
Ya everytime I turn the unit on, and on again, there's no signal for like a minute or so, sometimes even longer....

... think I got a defective unit?

Edit: hmmm.... reading a bit more online reviews, seems this is a common problem with this model, but I'm still curious if this is happening to anyone else here.

i bought a tomtom go 300 last summer for like $700 and it does the same thing.. same with my friends $1000 + garmin unit..

all gps' take a considerable amount of time to get signal...

Harkonnen
Dec 29th, 2006, 08:17 AM
<snip!>

Did you use the existing maps on the C310 or did you update the maps and got the results you did?

I used my brother in law's Garmin C330 over the weekend, and that thing was awesome. Have you tried some of the hacks to make the map "look and feel" a little easier on the eyes?

yaoll78
Dec 29th, 2006, 09:54 AM
Yes, usb cable can charge it as well.

thx buddy.I am charging it via usb now. wondering how long it will take to fully charged,since i have already charged it for 30 mins and cabnnot turn the power on.

romm2002a
Dec 29th, 2006, 11:04 AM
thx buddy.I am charging it via usb now. wondering how long it will take to fully charged,since i have already charged it for 30 mins and cabnnot turn the power on.

make sure you have the switch on the bottom of the unit set to on. You will need a pen or a stylus to flick that switch to the on position.

I got mine yesterday. Happy with this unit. Seems to be quite acurate.
Not sure how long it takes to charge but Im charging mine via USB right now too.

mblunt
Dec 29th, 2006, 11:15 AM
All in all, based on my experiences, I have to give 2 thumbs down to the MIO C310 unless they can improve their map and software. My suggestion is stick with Garmin and you won’t be disappointed. If you are looking for a GPS now, get the one with SIRFSTARIII chipset. NUVI series or C5xx series from Garmin will serve you good. I don’t own a TOMTOM but I guess Garmin is better since it use Navteg Map. I suggest you do not buy the Garmin C3xx series since it doesn't have SIRFSTARIII chipset.

PS, the MIO C310 will go back to stOOpleS for sure.

Wow a very detailed review of the two units. I agree with most points, if the C330 was shaped the same way as the 310 and had the SIRFSTARIII chipset it would have been worth the extra $150 premium over the mio.... but for the price of the Mio the hardware can't be matched by any Garmin... the Garmin NUVI and C5xx series you speak of are in excess of $500.

Mio's only flaw is it's maps/POI which will eventually be updated... the hardware I feel is supurb and based on your review you agree. I'm not sure why you own two Navi units... but most of us don't, so a lot of us are very new to Navi ownership and I think we'll be fairly happy with our purchase... I know I wouldn't be willing to spend more than $350 for a Navi (maybe $329 for a C320 Costco or $349 for a C330 at BESTBUY).

All in all I'm pleased with my Mio and the Toronto Zoo missing is not a deal breaker. :)

GiOBoY
Dec 29th, 2006, 11:29 AM
Wow a very detailed review of the two units. I agree with most points, if the C330 was shaped the same way as the 310 and had the SIRFSTARIII chipset it would have been worth the extra $150 premium over the mio.... but for the price of the Mio the hardware can't be matched by any Garmin... the Garmin NUVI and C5xx series you speak of are in excess of $500.

Mio's only flaw is it's maps/POI which will eventually be updated... the hardware I feel is supurb and based on your review you agree. I'm not sure why you own two Navi units... but most of us don't, so a lot of us are very new to Navi ownership and I think we'll be fairly happy with our purchase... I know I wouldn't be willing to spend more than $350 for a Navi (maybe $329 for a C320 Costco or $349 for a C330 at BESTBUY).

All in all I'm pleased with my Mio and the Toronto Zoo missing is not a deal breaker. :)

I'd have to agree with you on that .. maps/POI software are always updateable and that will only make the unit better later but for now $200 is a steal for the hardware and out of the box software. It's also hackable which makes it highly customizeable too.

yaoll78
Dec 29th, 2006, 11:33 AM
make sure you have the switch on the bottom of the unit set to on. You will need a pen or a stylus to flick that switch to the on position.

I got mine yesterday. Happy with this unit. Seems to be quite acurate.
Not sure how long it takes to charge but Im charging mine via USB right now too.

Already did it.can u turn it on after linking to the computr by usb?

Aske001
Dec 29th, 2006, 11:46 AM
I think I agree mostly with mblunt. The Mio hardware is excellent, and the iGo nav software it uses is quite good - once you locate a user manual and get used to the slightly non-intuitive user interface. A big advantage is that you can customize almost everything about the user interface, and there are a lot of alternative "skins" available. I don't have sunny923's issues with the battery life, accuracy, or voice volume of the Mio - they're all fine for me.

On the other hand there are certainly some issues with the 2005 TeleAtlas map database, and possibly also the interaction between the iGo 2006 nav software and the map database. sunny923 has a good point that if you are buying a unit primarily for its nav capabilities, the map completeness and accuracy are a big part of it. There may be future updates, but you can't judge based on possible future updates. Software is more of a user preference thing. I like the way that the Cockpit screen of the Mio/iGo clearly shows you the street you are on at the bottom and the street you are supposed to turn on next at the top, and the graphic of the turn you are supposed to make in the round window at the upper left. I'd rather that it didn't bother me with unnecessary voice instructions about which way to turn ahead of time, or "turn now" when there's already been plenty of warning.

midget_man
Dec 29th, 2006, 12:15 PM
Any comments from users of both the Navteq maps and the Teleatlas maps in this Mio? I have consistently read that the Navteq maps are superior. Comments? The Navteq maps are used in many similar AIO GPS devices and iGuidance software.

http://www.inavcorp.com/products/images/screenshots/9.display-pm.gif

http://www.inavcorp.com/products/images/screenshots/3D-500ft-POI.gif

http://www.inavcorp.com/products/images/screenshots/1.menu.gif

romm2002a
Dec 29th, 2006, 12:31 PM
Already did it.can u turn it on after linking to the computr by usb?

Yes.

andreid
Dec 29th, 2006, 12:40 PM
[QUOTE=midget_man;4416014]Any comments from users of both the Navteq maps and the Teleatlas maps in this Mio? I have consistently read that the Navteq maps are superior. Comments? The Navteq maps are used in many similar AIO GPS devices and iGuidance software.

If you lack ethics, you might want to search some torrent sites for iGuidance with NA maps. It's not difficult to find.

The consensus from the discussion here is that the 310 w/iGuidance is a wonderful GPS at unbeatable price.

fhofho
Dec 29th, 2006, 12:51 PM
Richmond Hill stooples had 15 in stock last night, going for 199, taxes on top.
Good looking unit.
no deal. They are selling at 229.92.

clammydog
Dec 29th, 2006, 12:56 PM
Mine just got delivered! Looks good.

SuperManh
Dec 29th, 2006, 01:03 PM
Already did it.can u turn it on after linking to the computr by usb?

I'm curious to know this as well. I got my unit yesterday and the battery wasdepleted out of the box. Trying to charge the unit has proven to be very hard without the ac adapter.

Can anyone confirm if the problems below is standard for this unit, or is mine defective?

1. Unable to charge the unit via the usb hub. (usb hub located in the back of my LG monitor so I assume it's self powered?) The amber light comes on indicating it's charging but battery is still 0% after 12 hours of charging.

2. When it's charging, the unit is not operational? I can turn the unit on, but it won't let me do anything, it displays the "charging battery" screen. I find this particularly strange, I can't think of any other devices that makes you wait while it charges. I wonder if my unit is defective?

Not wanting to wait another 6 hours for it to charge, I gave the unit to my brother to let him charge it in the car. Hopefully it should be fully charged when he gets back.

rainbow5798
Dec 29th, 2006, 01:09 PM
Ok, please remember this question is coming from a complete techie dummie, what kind of card should I get for this. I ordered it for my hubby and it arrived last night, now of course I need the card. Point me in the right direction please. :confused:

bubba g
Dec 29th, 2006, 01:17 PM
Ok, please remember this question is coming from a complete techie dummie, what kind of card should I get for this. I ordered it for my hubby and it arrived last night, now of course I need the card. Point me in the right direction please. :confused:

A regular SD will do. It does accept MMC too, but SD is cheaper and easier to find.

carnifex2005
Dec 29th, 2006, 01:21 PM
Ok, please remember this question is coming from a complete techie dummie, what kind of card should I get for this. I ordered it for my hubby and it arrived last night, now of course I need the card. Point me in the right direction please. :confused:

You need to get a SD Memory Card. Try Futureshop. Here's a link.

http://www.futureshop.ca/search/searchresult.asp?logon=&langid=EN&search=KWS

SuperManh
Dec 29th, 2006, 01:21 PM
any SD/MMC card.

Futureshop has the 2GB SanDisk (http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10063101&catid=11433) $34.99 and Kingston (http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10082661&catid=11433) model on sale for $29.99 as part of their boxing week promotion. They're sold out online, maybe you can still find them instore.

rainbow5798
Dec 29th, 2006, 01:32 PM
thank you. I kinda figured that was right but really wanted to make sure :cheesygri

clammydog
Dec 29th, 2006, 01:46 PM
1. Unable to charge the unit via the usb hub. (usb hub located in the back of my LG monitor so I assume it's self powered?) The amber light comes on indicating it's charging but battery is still 0% after 12 hours of charging.


I've been charging mine for just over a half hour and it's at 50% and it seems to be fully operational. I would bypass the USB hub and plug the unit directly to one of your computer's USB ports.

magicBC
Dec 29th, 2006, 01:46 PM
1. Unable to charge the unit via the usb hub. (usb hub located in the back of my LG monitor so I assume it's self powered?) The amber light comes on indicating it's charging but battery is still 0% after 12 hours of charging.

Some hubs may not be powered, just try it directly on the back of your computer.

2. When it's charging, the unit is not operational? I can turn the unit on, but it won't let me do anything, it displays the "charging battery" screen.

Does the same thing for me. I think it's "normal"




Also, I have to somewhat agree with the navigation difficulties, but as I go along with my hacked unit, I've also discovered it's possible to change maps, voices and software quite easily. GPSPASSION.COM has all the hacks available- I've been lucky to have this week off so I've been playing around and changing all the settings. Personally, I'd rather have the SirfStarIII hardware because my old Magellan WAAS enabled Meridian was constantly losing signal in downtown Vancouver and it was frustrating. In time, when/if the update comes out I'll probably go for it, but for now I'm happy with my unit. One hack I've installed but not yet tried is a replacement DATA.ZIP file by MoonBeam (GPSPASSION) that adds an extra routing option called 'easy'. From my understanding the c310 will try to take a 'main' route as opposed to a 'sidestreet' one. We'll see!

GiOBoY
Dec 29th, 2006, 01:48 PM
Wow, I ordered yesterday and I just got mine delivered today .. that was really fast and a nice looking unit indeed.

It's the C310s ... now to see if I got a 1GB version or not..

sunny923
Dec 29th, 2006, 08:14 PM
Did you use the existing maps on the C310 or did you update the maps and got the results you did?

I used my brother in law's Garmin C330 over the weekend, and that thing was awesome. Have you tried some of the hacks to make the map "look and feel" a little easier on the eyes?

I used the MIOMAP 3.2 that come with it. I didn't update/hack the unit. I will do it later and try the IGuidence.

Overall, the C330 is good, but it is easy to lose signal which is a big negative!

sunny923
Dec 29th, 2006, 08:23 PM
All in all I'm pleased with my Mio and the Toronto Zoo missing is not a deal breaker. :)


Toronto Zoo missing is just an example, My point is, think it this way, if you are a new comer to toronto and want to find Toronto Zoo, and you couldn't find it, is that frustrating? Or if you were travelling to a new place, and you try to find a nearest gas station or hotel around, then the GPS points you to a far away direction or couldn't even locate one, what you gonna do?

michael1996
Dec 29th, 2006, 09:27 PM
where can I find a cheap usb ac charger in toronto?

http://www.meritline.com/travel-charger-usb-chargers.html

http://www.ledshoppe.com/Product/ts/TS1010.htm

Aske001
Dec 29th, 2006, 09:50 PM
where can I find a cheap usb ac charger in toronto?

http://www.meritline.com/travel-charger-usb-chargers.html

http://www.ledshoppe.com/Product/ts/TS1010.htm

No need to look far. Buy any 5v DC power supply or charger, cut the USB mini-plug end off a $1 USB cable and wire the +5v and ground leads to the power supply. Total cost about $10, even if you don't already have these things lying around.

michael1996
Dec 29th, 2006, 10:28 PM
No need to look far. Buy any 5v DC power supply or charger, cut the USB mini-plug end off a $1 USB cable and wire the +5v and ground leads to the power supply. Total cost about $10, even if you don't already have these things lying around.


I got the same answer from google. I rather to buy it from ledshopp.:cheesygri

g man
Dec 29th, 2006, 10:47 PM
. . . someone mentioned charging it on a Motorola cellphone AC charger, Razr to be exact. (I think)

btw, are all the units being shipped from staples the same model, storage capacity, etc?

mblunt
Dec 29th, 2006, 11:53 PM
Toronto Zoo missing is just an example, My point is, think it this way, if you are a new comer to toronto and want to find Toronto Zoo, and you couldn't find it, is that frustrating? Or if you were travelling to a new place, and you try to find a nearest gas station or hotel around, then the GPS points you to a far away direction or couldn't even locate one, what you gonna do?

The Mio C310 is meant for more roadtrip POI... gas, emergency, food/drink, lodging. (I bought knowing that) If I was hoping to see the Toronto Zoo id look up where it was and add it to my POI... it's cheaper than paying $300 more.

If you are a POI junky then this unit is not for you. The Mio C710 has a lot more POIs which comes with a higher price tag. If you hack your unit you can add even more POIs... then problem solved for less $$$. That's what this site is all about... deals :)

lobodog3
Dec 30th, 2006, 12:05 AM
. . . someone mentioned charging it on a Motorola cellphone AC charger, Razr to be exact. (I think)

btw, are all the units being shipped from staples the same model, storage capacity, etc?


I'm using my sliver (ls 7) charger on mine:D

elmokiddo
Dec 30th, 2006, 12:36 AM
The Mio C310 is meant for more roadtrip POI... gas, emergency, food/drink, lodging. (I bought knowing that) If I was hoping to see the Toronto Zoo id look up where it was and add it to my POI... it's cheaper than paying $300 more.

If you are a POI junky then this unit is not for you. The Mio C710 has a lot more POIs which comes with a higher price tag. If you hack your unit you can add even more POIs... then problem solved for less $$$. That's what this site is all about... deals :)

Is the C710 using a differnt mapping program or a different set of map files?? I thought they both used the MioMap software with the same TeleAtlas maps meaning that they would have the same number of POIs?

cy
Dec 30th, 2006, 01:19 AM
FYI, for those who purchased the unit before the boxing week sale - I was able to get it price guaranteed.

642979 MIO C310 PORTABLE GPS total credit $45.60

The Black Pearl
Dec 30th, 2006, 04:36 PM
where can I find a cheap usb ac charger in toronto?

http://www.meritline.com/travel-charger-usb-chargers.html

http://www.ledshoppe.com/Product/ts/TS1010.htm

If the Sliver LS7 charger works then heres an eBay link. Can anyone comment if this AC adapter will work?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150075207050

hangtime23
Dec 30th, 2006, 04:46 PM
I bought a Mio C710 a while ago, and it is very similar to the Mio C310 that everybody is rushing out to buy now that it's on sale...what I was wondering is this: My C710 came preloaded with Destinator 3.0, but I want to load MioMap 3.2 onto it, as, from what I've read about it, it's a lot better. So is there any way I can do this?

theastroboy
Dec 30th, 2006, 04:46 PM
Did anyone apply screen protector to the Mio before tapping on it?

can2000
Dec 30th, 2006, 04:51 PM
Would OP please add a pool to count how many of us have alredy hacked the Mio C310X?

g man
Dec 30th, 2006, 04:56 PM
Did anyone apply screen protector to the Mio before tapping on it?

I memorized the menus in the owners manual and left the fake map sticker thingy on from the factory. ;)

Is it a good idea to put some protection on? I have 2 due to a staples gaff, could easily take the one I've touched back and keep the sealed unit.

mre
Dec 30th, 2006, 05:09 PM
After spending a lot of time hacking this device, I can say that I love it. For $230, taxes included, I have a great GPS with SirfstarIII, Miomap 3.2/iGO, Tomtom, iGuidance, Oziexplorer, a media player, and a few other apps running. That combined with a custom shell makes this unit very user friendly as well. Of course, I had to spend some money on the extras, and a 4GB SD card, but it's all well worth it for all this functionality in one device.

Someone asked how good iGuidance is and I can say that it's not as user friendly from an interface perspective and it doesn't have my street, so it's obviously not perfect.

Geil
Dec 30th, 2006, 05:50 PM
BTW all the trashing bout no Toronto Zoo in this device... I just checked TomTom6 on my Dell PDA and I don't think I can find it in the POI list there either....
I would have to agree that even having a GPS does not mean that you don't have to do any research or preperations prior to a trip!
I am still evaluating the Mio Interface but likely going to change it to TomTom6 as it seems more intuitive to use. I need the easiest one as it will be for my technology challenged parents as a backup in case they get lost and I hope they have more luck with this than a map

SeeWhy2
Dec 30th, 2006, 06:20 PM
Hi,
Still trying to hack the POI but cannot or the life of me figure out where the .KML file comes from. I am using the first hack noted below:

Easy POI Editor

* Instructions here
http://inetcom.hu/mick/igo/iGOPOIExplorerBeta.zip

1. Got active sync working from above
2. Copied iGO.db from C310 to PC.
3. Ran iGO POI Explorer and imported iGO.db
4. Imported the .KML file into iGO.db
5. Exported the updated iGO.db to PC.
6. Copied iGO.db back to the C310

This software also has an experimental sync mode that directly changes the igo.db You will need to be out of the gps software (i.e. at the ce page or the main page to be able to manipulate the db)

and found here: (http://johntam.com/tiki-index.php?page=Mio+c310x+gps#Hack_your_c310x_to_ha ve_full_access_to_Windows_CE_Including_MP4_Movie_P layback_Winamp_and_MS_ActiveSync)
about 2/3 of the way down the page.
TIA,

SuperManh
Dec 30th, 2006, 08:01 PM
Did anyone apply screen protector to the Mio before tapping on it?

Anyone know where we can buy a touchscreen compatible protector for the Mio (320x240)?

aragingbull
Dec 30th, 2006, 08:10 PM
i've been using the extra screen protectors i got for my palm zire 72. i just cut the outline and it works quite well. you can pick those up from any staples, office depot, etc.

imnew
Dec 30th, 2006, 09:01 PM
First off.

I have one of these brand new sealed in a box. I bought one online, one in store. If anyone ones want its available asap for pickup at store retail price and includes a cash receipt.

Second, here is the steps I took to UNLOCK this.

Before you start, you will need the following files.
http://miojaco.mioskins.net/zip/download.php3?Fichier=unlock-c510-mioskins.zip

1. Install Activesync from the CD.
2. Run Activesync
3. Connect the Mio to the PC via USB cable. **NOTE: The unit HAS TO BE TURNED ON in order for it to be recognized by your computer.
4. Choose "Cancel" in Activesync to make it run as a guest.
5. Open the Exlore option in ActiveSync so that you can now access your GPS' files.
6. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap and rename the file MioMap.exe to MioMap2.exe
7. Copy the files MioMap.exe, MioTool.exe and Unlock-C510-Mioskins?.cab to the same directory.
8. Disconnect the GPS from the comptuer, and do a soft reset by pressing the "Reset" button on the bottom of the unit while it is powered on.
9. When it restarts, double click on MioMap and File Explorer should start.
10. Navigate to My Flash Disk\MioMap\Miomap and double click MioTool.exe (this will show a small box in the top left corner, it opens a keyboard)
11. In the same folder double click unlock-c510mioskins.cab
12. Now open the keyboard by clicking the small button in the top left.
13. With the keyboard open, click on the box that has the word "Utils" in it, then press the enter key on the keyboard and it should move on to the next screen
14. Click the small box again to hide the keyboard.
15. Select "Yes To All" and the files will install
16. Once completed, do a soft reset again by pressing the reset button on the bottom of the unit.
17. The unit will reset and bring up the desktop for Windows CE, now double click on explorer
18. Navigate to My Flash Disk\utils and delete French.lng (select it and click the red "x" at the top of the screen)
19. Navigate to My Flash Disk\miomap\miomap and delete MioMap.exe
20. Rename the MioMap2.exe to MioMap.exe
21. Do another soft reset and you're done.

This will now load into Windows CE.
To run the map software, simply double click the MioMap icon and it will load almost instantly.
Now, here is the tricky part. From what I have read, the writeups for the C310x have a different menu option to exit back to windows CE desktop. Ours don't have these options.

I found one way is to go:
Menu --> Map Look & Feel --> Settings --> More --> Device Settings
Now you will see the Windows CE Taskbar.
From here, click on the Start button, go to Favorites, choose Reset and then click Yes to restart your PPC.
This will basically reboot it like any other computer.

HOWEVER, if you are using the GPS while driving, and want to put on a movie for the passengers, you can use this method, and instead of going to "Reset", simply open the movie application and start watching it, you can the switch between the two applications by using the icon in the bottom right of the taskbar.

You will need to go back through the same steps to get back to the movie from the MioMap software.


I have yet to find a way to just shut down the application, so if anyone konws of a way, please pass it along.

I am currently working on the video playback and will do a writeup for it as soon as I have successfully gotten it to work.

Remember, this is all "AT YOUR OWN RISK".

Cheers


Got my unit yesterday.. My CD doesn't come with activesync... Is it called something else??

Aske001
Dec 30th, 2006, 09:24 PM
Got my unit yesterday.. My CD doesn't come with activesync... Is it called something else??

ActiveSync is not on the current Mio C310 CD. You can download the latest version free from Microsoft, and it will work with the Mio C310 after it has been hacked. But to get started you will need to download "Mio Transfer hack.exe" so that you can access the full set of directories on the Mio.

imnew
Dec 30th, 2006, 09:55 PM
Ok, I have successfully hacked my C310sx from Staples, installed the TCPMP media player and re-arranged my WinCE desktop. Here's a few tips:

- My unit came with MioMap 3.2 installed already, so I have no issues with updating the mapping software or getting GAPI to work after the hack.
- My MioMap CD did not have ActiveSync on it, but my PC already had ActiveSync 3.8 installed (for my Smartphone) and it worked fine with the Mio after the hack.
- I had to download and use Mio Transfer Hack.exe to get started with hacking the unit, since ActiveSync 3.8 wouldn't recognize it until after the hack.
- A MioMap shortcut appears on my WinCE desktop on the unit after the hack, and running it launches MioMap 3.2. It seems to run normally, and I can exit back to the WinCE desktop. I also have the shortcut icons for MP3 (launches the Mio MP3 player) and Settings (launches the original Mio Settings screen, but has to be renamed from the French Reglage after the hack).
- I also have a Mioshell shortcut icon, and if I run that it launches the original Mio desktop with the 3 icons for MioMap, MP3, and Settings. But there's no easy way to exit from there (a soft reset is required), so I'll stick with launching the 3 apps from the WinCE desktop I think.
- After installing TCMPMP and cleaning up my desktop, I have these shortcut icons on my WinCE desktop: MioMap, TCPMP, MP3, Settings, Explorer, Keyboard, Reset, Sleep, ActiveSync, Mio Transfer, Mio Shell. I double-click the MioMap shortcut to run MioMap 3.2. It will stay running as long as I do a normal soft on/off, so I only go back to the WinCE desktop when I want something from there. Everything is installed on the built-in flash drive. I didn't check how much space was left, but I didn't have any problem installing TCPMP. My media files are on an SD card.
- The TCPMP media player is great. I was already familiar with it from my Smartphone. I find it takes a bit of fiddling to get the screen zoom and orientation right (it doesn't always "take" right away), but it plays very smoothly once it's running. The resolution of the Mio's 3.5" screen is nice for watching movies. TCPMP can also double as an MP3 player and a JPEG photo viewer. The companion PocketDivXEncoder for your PC is lightening fast at converting MPEG-4 video files to the optimum size for your pocket screen.
- From experimentation with my Smartphone I know that there are many other apps available for WinCE if you want to experiment. You can also completely customize your desktop look and feel if you play around with the configuration xml file for it. There are lots of examples and tutorials for this on the web, and some great customized versions already done for the Mio. I successfully customized my Smartphone desktop when I first got it to eliminate options I wasn't using and switch the background to a favourite family photo, and I would say that simple changes by editing the xml file are easy, but extensive customization can get quite complex and require a lot of experimentation to get it right.
- I notice that I get no click sound from the Mio when I tap on the WinCE desktop or in TCPMP, but it still works in MioMap. No idea how to turn that on. Nothing obvious on the control panel.

I've been trying the C310 on a few trips around town to see how well it works. Overall I like the MioMap 3.2 interface. It's a bit difficult at first to find all the functions because the menus are scattered in various places and the manual is sketchy, but I did find most of what I looked for eventually. As for the navigation, I find the tracking accuracy and the street map pretty good, but I would give the navigation accuracy only a 50% success rating if I were relying on it with no local knowledge. It gives confusing directions at some locations, including some impossible turns. Most likely this is a limitation of the current TeleAtlas maps, so I think we're all depending on future upgrades to those maps to improve the navigation.

Aside from this, I really like this unit. I'm glad I bought it.

I can't find the file 'Mio Transfer Hack.exe', please hlep...

saku
Dec 30th, 2006, 09:57 PM
I can't find the file 'Mio Transfer Hack.exe', please hlep...

If you are familiar with rapidshare, here is the link to download MT hack.exe

http://rapidshare.com/files/9602523/Mio_Transfer_Hack.zip.html

Hope it helps :)

imnew
Dec 30th, 2006, 10:07 PM
If you are familiar with rapidshare, here is the link to download MT hack.exe

http://rapidshare.com/files/9602523/Mio_Transfer_Hack.zip.html

Hope it helps :)

Thanks... Got the file...

imnew
Dec 30th, 2006, 10:11 PM
Thanks... Got the file...

Got an error msg after installation... MUT.dll file missing.... :mad:

treo22
Dec 30th, 2006, 10:33 PM
Got an error msg after installation... MUT.dll file missing.... :mad:

You need to do the following:

First things first install the Mio transfer from the CD...

1.) Make sure Mio Transfer is not loaded (check the tray for its icon).

2. Rename "C:\Program Files\Mio DigiWalker\Mio Transfer.exe" to Mio TransferOld.exe.

3 Download the hacked version of Mio Transfer here:
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload/Mio_Transfer_Hack.zip

4) Unzip Mio_Transfer_Hack.zip to C:\Program Files\Mio DigiWalker, and rename Mio Transfer Hack.exe to Mio Transfer.exe (so it matches the original filename, as in step two).

5.) Run Mio Transfer, which will now be the hacked version (hacked version allows far more access to Mio's files than unhacked version).

coolwarm
Dec 31st, 2006, 12:09 AM
After several days of testing, I am pleased with this little toy, but I am a little bit concerned with the battery life. I used it for short trips and I think the total time is less than one hour, but I already need to recharge it even though I used power saving mode, that's far from the featuring 4~5 hours battery life>:(

hangtime23
Dec 31st, 2006, 01:09 AM
can anybody help me with this? I've been able to load TomTom 6 onto it, but I dunno how to get MioMap 3.2 onto it...

I bought a Mio C710 a while ago, and it is very similar to the Mio C310 that everybody is rushing out to buy now that it's on sale...what I was wondering is this: My C710 came preloaded with Destinator 3.0, but I want to load MioMap 3.2 onto it, as, from what I've read about it, it's a lot better. So is there any way I can do this?

broadway
Dec 31st, 2006, 01:50 AM
If you have the old version of C310 with Destinator, earlier in this thread nice RFDers already posted information for hacking the device:
Unlock: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=370214&page=9
MioMap: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=370214&page=16

Good luck:)

broadway
Dec 31st, 2006, 02:10 AM
can anybody help me with this? I've been able to load TomTom 6 onto it, but I dunno how to get MioMap 3.2 onto it...

For C310s (with Destinator), assume you have unlocked your device:
- rename \My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap to \My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap2 (so that the Destinator still works)
- download MioMap 3.2 from the above link, extract in PC and transfer to \My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap, then run setup.exe

You can download a nice screen rotate here (to toggle your screen between portrait and landscape view): Rotate.zip (http://www.badongo.com/file/1934479).

There are so many nice things you can do with this little GPS. Maybe we can start a new thread in RFD for all the fun things with C310, anyone?

Have fun.

magicBC
Dec 31st, 2006, 02:51 AM
There are so many nice things you can do with this little GPS. Maybe we can start a new thread in RFD for all the fun things with C310, anyone?

Have fun.

Have you checked out this?
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=384938&highlight=mio+c310

saku
Dec 31st, 2006, 03:12 AM
I hope this isn't a repost.

Two cool applications:

Calculator [CAB File] (http://rapidshare.com/files/9618107/MyCalculatorPPC.CAB.html)

Picture Viewer
(http://rapidshare.com/files/9618196/viewer.ppc_arm.CAB.html)

Source: Bad memory :cheesygri

Installed the above 2 apps in my C310s. Simply use the procedure stated by our fellow RFDer Jrawk :) here. (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4251146&postcount=124)

sunny923
Dec 31st, 2006, 03:20 AM
WOW, stOOpleS has 999 MIO available in GTA now:

http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/200/stooplesxu5.jpg

saku
Dec 31st, 2006, 03:42 AM
WOW, stOOpleS has 999 MIO available in GTA now:

http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/200/stooplesxu5.jpg

I checked in QC,

same here..999 available.

No RFDer reported that they missed this deal..This chicken is still hot.:lol:

saku
Dec 31st, 2006, 03:48 AM
After several days of testing, I am pleased with this little toy, but I am a little bit concerned with the battery life. I used it for short trips and I think the total time is less than one hour, but I already need to recharge it even though I used power saving mode, that's far from the featuring 4~5 hours battery life>:(

Battery ain't a problem to me. Mine is plugged in a sony fm transmitter (more discussions here) (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=380736) which charge this pocket pc.

saku
Dec 31st, 2006, 07:41 AM
Anyone know where we can buy a touchscreen compatible protector for the Mio (320x240)?

Not an expensive accessory.

http://i.expansys.com/i/l/l138260.jpg

Priced $17.95 @ expansys.ca (http://www.expansys.ca/p.aspx?i=138260)


----

More accessories from Boxwave. (http://www.boxwave.com/products/easyfinder/buy-best-mio-c310-accessories_2101.htm)

They do ship ordered items to canada [low declared value]. I, myself bought leather case for my BB Pearl.


-----

Of course, the cheapest one is on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.ca/Screen-Protector-for-Mitac-Mio-C310-C510-C710_W0QQitemZ140032761007QQihZ004QQcategoryZ56167 QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem)
sells for USD 5 + USD 2.50 (shipping).

willy
Dec 31st, 2006, 09:14 AM
WOW, stOOpleS has 999 MIO available in GTA now:

http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/200/stooplesxu5.jpg
It's the imfamous "Satursday Night Phantom Stock" thingie ...

frankw
Dec 31st, 2006, 09:34 AM
Not an expensive accessory.

http://i.expansys.com/i/l/l138260.jpg

Priced $17.95 @ expansys.ca (http://www.expansys.ca/p.aspx?i=138260)


----

More accessories from Boxwave. (http://www.boxwave.com/products/easyfinder/buy-best-mio-c310-accessories_2101.htm)

They do ship ordered items to canada [low declared value]. I, myself bought leather case for my BB Pearl.


-----

Of course, the cheapest one is on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.ca/Screen-Protector-for-Mitac-Mio-C310-C510-C710_W0QQitemZ140032761007QQihZ004QQcategoryZ56167 QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem)
sells for USD 5 + USD 2.50 (shipping).

Go here....

http://www.ledshoppe.com/Product/ts/SP1009.htm

Two for $3.99 USD and no shipping costs. Cut about 3/4" off the length and the height is already perfect size. I have four of these now and they are as good as any so called $20 ripoff version.

SuperManh
Dec 31st, 2006, 09:38 AM
Not an expensive accessory.

Of course, the cheapest one is on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.ca/Screen-Protector-for-Mitac-Mio-C310-C510-C710_W0QQitemZ140032761007QQihZ004QQcategoryZ56167 QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem)
sells for USD 5 + USD 2.50 (shipping).

That's highway robbery, $8 for a thin piece of plastic. :/

broadway
Dec 31st, 2006, 09:58 AM
Have you checked out this?
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=384938&highlight=mio+c310

Oops, I've not checked other than the deals section, LOL. Thanks for pointing it out.

broadway
Dec 31st, 2006, 10:03 AM
I hope this isn't a repost.

Two cool applications:

Calculator [CAB File] (http://rapidshare.com/files/9618107/MyCalculatorPPC.CAB.html)

Picture Viewer
(http://rapidshare.com/files/9618196/viewer.ppc_arm.CAB.html)

Source: Bad memory :cheesygri

Installed the above 2 apps in my C310s. Simply use the procedure stated by our fellow RFDer Jrawk :) here. (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4251146&postcount=124)

Thanks for these. I got the Picture Viewer and it works great. For the calculator, how to close it once run? I couldn't find the "close" button on its screen. Did I miss something?

broadway
Dec 31st, 2006, 10:10 AM
Go here....

http://www.ledshoppe.com/Product/ts/SP1009.htm

Two for $3.99 USD and no shipping costs. Cut about 3/4" off the length and the height is already perfect size. I have four of these now and they are as good as any so called $20 ripoff version.

How does it compare to Invisible Shield (here (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=300937))? Other than the price difference, how good are its quality, durability and clarity?

michael1996
Dec 31st, 2006, 11:51 AM
anybody tried Destinator6 in this unit?:cheesygri

frankw
Dec 31st, 2006, 12:05 PM
How does it compare to Invisible Shield (here (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=300937))? Other than the price difference, how good are its quality, durability and clarity?

I would say as good if not better. I have had the Ledshoppe ones on my two Zodiacs which are used everyday for the last two months and not a single scratch yet and no loss of screen sensitivity. I just ordered up two more, four sheets in total before the pricing changes.

The website listed on the Ledshoppe product is www.jiaxintop.com and you will see once the site loads that they are a major maker of screen protectors for just about every device made.

I highly recommend them....

hangtime23
Dec 31st, 2006, 12:54 PM
For C310s (with Destinator), assume you have unlocked your device:
- rename \My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap to \My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap2 (so that the Destinator still works)
- download MioMap 3.2 from the above link, extract in PC and transfer to \My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap, then run setup.exe

You can download a nice screen rotate here (to toggle your screen between portrait and landscape view): Rotate.zip (http://www.badongo.com/file/1934479).

There are so many nice things you can do with this little GPS. Maybe we can start a new thread in RFD for all the fun things with C310, anyone?

Have fun.

Thanks for the headsup on these posts...I thought I had gone through this entire thread already, but apparently I hadn't...I'm gonna try this out on my C710!

frankw
Dec 31st, 2006, 01:18 PM
For C310s (with Destinator), assume you have unlocked your device:
- rename \My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap to \My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap2 (so that the Destinator still works)
- download MioMap 3.2 from the above link, extract in PC and transfer to \My Flash Disk\MioMap\MioMap, then run setup.exe

You can download a nice screen rotate here (to toggle your screen between portrait and landscape view): Rotate.zip (http://www.badongo.com/file/1934479).

There are so many nice things you can do with this little GPS. Maybe we can start a new thread in RFD for all the fun things with C310, anyone?

Have fun.

Heads up regarding Rotate.zip. Yes it works great with the C310 Desktop and also with Iguidance 3.0 and 3.01. However, I had my screen rotated vertical for the desktop and loaded MioMap 3.2 which came up in horizontal mode.

BUT..... the underlying touchscreen buttons were still vertical. So I had to guess and tap where the buttons would had been had Miomap came up vertical.

realize
Dec 31st, 2006, 01:20 PM
not sure if its asked but does anyone know how to switch the miles to km??

Phreeze
Dec 31st, 2006, 01:23 PM
not sure if its asked but does anyone know how to switch the miles to km??

goto the main settings (from home screen), and its under language options

realize
Dec 31st, 2006, 01:26 PM
goto the main settings (from home screen), and its under language options

thx ..appreciate ur help

Happy New Years everyone

;
)

GiOBoY
Dec 31st, 2006, 01:30 PM
Hello Moders / Hackers -

There IS a new thread specifically for moding the C310 .. here it is:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=384938

daffod
Dec 31st, 2006, 02:32 PM
i love my tomtom 700 paid 300 bucks US last month..

saku
Dec 31st, 2006, 02:37 PM
Thanks for these. I got the Picture Viewer and it works great. For the calculator, how to close it once run? I couldn't find the "close" button on its screen. Did I miss something?

I had the same problem. Later, i figured out to hit ctrl + alt + del in the full keyboard version, which pops out task manager. Just end that task.:)

saku
Dec 31st, 2006, 02:40 PM
Go here....

http://www.ledshoppe.com/Product/ts/SP1009.htm

Two for $3.99 USD and no shipping costs. Cut about 3/4" off the length and the height is already perfect size. I have four of these now and they are as good as any so called $20 ripoff version.

RFD :twisted:

Thanks for the link.

hangtime23
Dec 31st, 2006, 03:13 PM
so I was finally able to get MioMap v3.2 installed on the C710, I had to do a lot of workarounds, due to some problems with the license file...don't remember exactly what I did, but I eventually got it working.

Now, the issue I have is with the bluetooth link to the phone - when I start up MioMap 3.2, and then I receive a call, it doesn't display that 'incoming call' screen...I can hear the sound that the bluetooth app makes when a call normally comes in, but I can't choose to answer the call...anybody know anything about this?

broadway
Dec 31st, 2006, 03:20 PM
Heads up regarding Rotate.zip. Yes it works great with the C310 Desktop and also with Iguidance 3.0 and 3.01. However, I had my screen rotated vertical for the desktop and loaded MioMap 3.2 which came up in horizontal mode.

BUT..... the underlying touchscreen buttons were still vertical. So I had to guess and tap where the buttons would had been had Miomap came up vertical.

Check the sys.txt under miomap: under [interface]
landscape=1 will run it in landscape
landscape=0 will run it in portrait

But in either way, you need to rotate the screen to portrait first before running miomap. I guess this version of miomap is designed for pocket pc's. Other than this, it works fine in either landscape or portrait after rotating the screen.

Aske001
Dec 31st, 2006, 03:45 PM
Thanks for these. I got the Picture Viewer and it works great. For the calculator, how to close it once run? I couldn't find the "close" button on its screen. Did I miss something?

About, then X

Aske001
Dec 31st, 2006, 03:46 PM
Check the sys.txt under miomap: under [interface]
landscape=1 will run it in landscape
landscape=0 will run it in portrait

But in either way, you need to rotate the screen to portrait first before running miomap. I guess this version of miomap is designed for pocket pc's. Other than this, it works fine in either landscape or portrait after rotating the screen.

Well, aside from the fact that you have to tilt the Mio slightly to one side in portrait mode to see the screen clearly, since the LCD filter is oriented for landscape viewing.

theastroboy
Dec 31st, 2006, 05:55 PM
For those who tried both the Gonav and this Mio, do you think the Mio is worth the price difference?

g man
Dec 31st, 2006, 06:01 PM
Mio C310X was mentioned, how do you know which model is which? (go ahead, flame the techno-noob, heheh)

rf134a
Dec 31st, 2006, 08:25 PM
If you bought your 310 in Canada, old stock is 310s, new stock is 310sx.
If you bought your 310 in USA, old stock is 310 2x, new stock is 310x.

Easy? :) ;)

g man
Dec 31st, 2006, 10:06 PM
If you bought your 310 in Canada, old stock is 310s, new stock is 310sx.
If you bought your 310 in USA, old stock is 310 2x, new stock is 310x.

Easy? :) ;)

Aaah, got it. That was easy . . . all is forgiven staples. For now. :cheesygri

saku
Jan 1st, 2007, 07:28 AM
I mounted my mio on the dashboard facing me, i.e. @ 45 degree to the length of the car. The directions are bit crazy sometimes (mio map v 3.2). Did i miss some tuning for the satellite signal? Is the position of the signal is independent of the direction of gps?:confused:

Charlez
Jan 1st, 2007, 08:08 AM
After several days of testing, I am pleased with this little toy, but I am a little bit concerned with the battery life. I used it for short trips and I think the total time is less than one hour, but I already need to recharge it even though I used power saving mode, that's far from the featuring 4~5 hours battery life>:(

Tried mine, battery life is 1~2 hours. It runs 4~5 hours ONLY in MP3 mode.

mblunt
Jan 1st, 2007, 11:46 AM
I mounted my mio on the dashboard facing me, i.e. @ 45 degree to the length of the car. The directions are bit crazy sometimes (mio map v 3.2). Did i miss some tuning for the satellite signal? Is the position of the signal is independent of the direction of gps?:confused:

Change your setting to Economical.. by far the best routes to take. I used it last night, shaved 5-10 mins off my return home. :)

redsprite
Jan 1st, 2007, 02:37 PM
the 81741 $30 off coupon does not work now.
any online $30 off coupon still available? thanks.

bb_00
Jan 1st, 2007, 03:36 PM
OOS on Staples.ca. Anyway in getting one now? I've just noticed they have extended the sale to Jan 2nd on their flyer.

darlee
Jan 1st, 2007, 04:24 PM
Go here....

http://www.ledshoppe.com/Product/ts/SP1009.htm

Two for $3.99 USD and no shipping costs. Cut about 3/4" off the length and the height is already perfect size. I have four of these now and they are as good as any so called $20 ripoff version.

if you were to order more than $30 USD. you could use the following coupons to save 10% more.
EROM03
10MORE

Cheer!

Geil
Jan 1st, 2007, 04:29 PM
if you were to order more than $30 USD. you could use the following coupons to save 10% more.
EROM03
10MORE

Cheer!

price is good but again keep in mind that the more "shiny" the screen protector the more likely you will have annoying reflections on the screen preventing you from being able to actually see through the shiny filter and see the contents in daytime

icy
Jan 1st, 2007, 11:52 PM
I hope this isn't a repost.

Two cool applications:

Calculator [CAB File] (http://rapidshare.com/files/9618107/MyCalculatorPPC.CAB.html)

Picture Viewer
(http://rapidshare.com/files/9618196/viewer.ppc_arm.CAB.html)

Source: Bad memory :cheesygri

Installed the above 2 apps in my C310s. Simply use the procedure stated by our fellow RFDer Jrawk :) here. (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4251146&postcount=124)

I have problem on installing these 2 applications

After installed the calculator, when I open the application, there is an error message "Protection error: 3"
And when I tried to open the viewer, it says "cannot find "viewer" (or one of its components). Make sure the path and filename are correct and that all te required libraries are available."

Why...how can I fix it?

I have tried installed TCPMP V7.1 and V8.1, but both don't have picture viewer, when I open a jpeg file, there is a error message "MJPEG: This type of motion-JPEG format is not supported.". How come some message on this forum says TCPMP can view photo too?

Aske001
Jan 2nd, 2007, 12:53 AM
I have problem on installing these 2 applications
After installed the calculator, when I open the application, there is an error message "Protection error: 3"


It might mean that the file is already open in another application. Perhaps the installer is still running, or you are still connected to your PC. Make sure you have completed the installation and disconnected from your PC, and then do a soft reset on the Mio. Or maybe it's Write Protect - maybe your SD card is write protected.

And when I tried to open the viewer, it says "cannot find "viewer" (or one of its components). Make sure the path and filename are correct and that all te required libraries are available."


Probably the same thing.

I have tried installed TCPMP V7.1 and V8.1, but both don't have picture viewer, when I open a jpeg file, there is a error message "MJPEG: This type of motion-JPEG format is not supported.". How come some message on this forum says TCPMP can view photo too?

Both versions 0.71 and 0.81 of TCPMP can display JPEG photos. Your error message is saying that it can't play MJPEG movies, which is understandable because it requires a specific MJPEG codec. Perhaps you were just stepping through the files on your camera SD card and the one you hit first happened to be a movie instead of a photo?

If you really do want to play these movies on the Mio, I think there are some extended versions of TCPMP which come with the MJPEG codec, or you can just re-encode your movies in a sensible format like MPEG4 when you want to transfer them to the Mio.

virgoan
Jan 2nd, 2007, 09:50 AM
Are there anybody in the same boat as me?

I ordered my MIO on Wednesday night (December 27).. I recieved my confirmation email saying it will be here on Friday, Dec 29 between 9 and 5.. I waited all day on Friday, nothing came.. I called them at 6pm that day, asked them where is my package.. they say it's a very busy time for them, they cant make it to my house today, it has to be next week tuesday, January 2.. They already charged my credit card on December 28..

So today, at 9:30, I called them to confirm if they will make the delivery.. Staples asked me "Didn't you recieve your package already"? I was like WAHHHHHH?? They then put me on hold, later they came back and told me they will call me back??

Has this ever happen to anybody?

etcbq
Jan 2nd, 2007, 09:58 AM
Are there anybody in the same boat as me?

I ordered my MIO on Wednesday night (December 27).. I recieved my confirmation email saying it will be here on Friday, Dec 29 between 9 and 5.. I waited all day on Friday, nothing came.. I called them at 6pm that day, asked them where is my package.. they say it's a very busy time for them, they cant make it to my house today, it has to be next week tuesday, January 2.. They already charged my credit card on December 28..

So today, at 9:30, I called them to confirm if they will make the delivery.. Staples asked me "Didn't you recieve your package already"? I was like WAHHHHHH?? They then put me on hold, later they came back and told me they will call me back??

Has this ever happen to anybody?

The last time I dealt with Staples (Probably will be the last), I had cancelled an order. The delivery guy showed up at my door 10 days later and asked for the items (the cancelled order that was never delivered) I want to return to them!!

g man
Jan 2nd, 2007, 10:29 AM
One of my two Mios is going back by DMD courier tomorrow, might show up in their online stock later in the week(?) It's a sealed box.

michael1996
Jan 2nd, 2007, 11:07 AM
One of my two Mios is going back by DMD courier tomorrow, might show up in their online stock later in the week(?) It's a sealed box.

The price will change to $430 tomorrow. :cheesygri

slgta
Jan 2nd, 2007, 11:32 AM
is there any Staples coupon that we can use ?

none listed in the coupon section is working.

Jrawk
Jan 2nd, 2007, 11:38 AM
Can someone that received the 3.2 software DVD get me a copy of it? I'm in Scarborough.

PM me plz, thanks!

g4indigo
Jan 2nd, 2007, 11:50 AM
Are there anybody in the same boat as me?

I ordered my MIO on Wednesday night (December 27).. I recieved my confirmation email saying it will be here on Friday, Dec 29 between 9 and 5.. I waited all day on Friday, nothing came.. I called them at 6pm that day, asked them where is my package.. they say it's a very busy time for them, they cant make it to my house today, it has to be next week tuesday, January 2.. They already charged my credit card on December 28..

So today, at 9:30, I called them to confirm if they will make the delivery.. Staples asked me "Didn't you recieve your package already"? I was like WAHHHHHH?? They then put me on hold, later they came back and told me they will call me back??

Has this ever happen to anybody?

I stayed in my office like an idiot from 9am to 5:20pm on 29th, they did not show up. Called this morning and they will deliver today, hopefully.

romm2002a
Jan 2nd, 2007, 11:54 AM
I recently picked up one of these units and found that it's a C310SX model. The software CD that I got says C310s. The documentation that came with my unit says C310x. Can someone shed some light on what the difference would be between the C310X and the C310s(C310sx) model?

willy
Jan 2nd, 2007, 12:02 PM
I recently picked up one of these units and found that it's a C310SX model. The software CD that I got says C310s. The documentation that came with my unit says C310x. Can someone shed some light on what the difference would be between the C310X and the C310s(C310sx) model?
Read post #843 ...

romm2002a
Jan 2nd, 2007, 12:12 PM
Read post #843 ...

Woops. Sorry I missed that. Thanks for pointing that out. :)
So I take it that the info that I have found in the forums to get into the Windows CE still apply for this unit?

michael1996
Jan 2nd, 2007, 12:25 PM
is that possible to support text-to-speech functionality?

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/01-04-2006/0004242374&EDATE=

c710 supports it.

Geil
Jan 2nd, 2007, 01:55 PM
one of te $20 off $150 still works from this thread. I think its the 84218
Good Luck :)
......du nget greedy ppl haha

Geil
Jan 2nd, 2007, 02:04 PM
51 to go :lol:

Coppertone2005
Jan 2nd, 2007, 02:07 PM
one of te $20 off $150 still works from this thread. I think its the 84218
Good Luck :)
......du nget greedy ppl haha


Thanks! Any more coupons? I need one more to stack it.

Geil
Jan 2nd, 2007, 02:09 PM
Thanks! Any more coupons? I need one more to stack it.

dun get greedy otherwise its just gonna sell out on you :lol:

bb_00
Jan 2nd, 2007, 02:11 PM
Thanks Geil. Just ordered.

s7r1k3r
Jan 2nd, 2007, 02:41 PM
We still have these in stock at staples for 229 but be warned there is no American map on it. The sx model has north america but not the 310s. You can call Mio yourself and findout. We had alot of returns because of this.

zzricezz
Jan 2nd, 2007, 02:45 PM
are we suppose to charge the mio before using it? I open it and there is no power to the unit, i have moved the switch to the on position already.

I have it plug into my usb slot and i see the orange light but still I can't turn it on yet.

Geil
Jan 2nd, 2007, 02:49 PM
are we suppose to charge the mio before using it? I open it and there is no power to the unit, i have moved the switch to the on position already.

I have it plug into my usb slot and i see the orange light but still I can't turn it on yet.


should read the whole thread (yeah its long :P) :twisted:

.....ok fine.... :) had the same happen and it will charge through USB but simply does not have nough juice to power up and charge. Plug it into the car adapter and it will turn on and charge at the same time immediately

redsprite
Jan 2nd, 2007, 03:14 PM
I am going to order one now, who can share me the $10 or $30 coupon? thx

slgta
Jan 2nd, 2007, 03:34 PM
We still have these in stock at staples for 229 but be warned there is no American map on it. The sx model has north america but not the 310s. You can call Mio yourself and findout. We had alot of returns because of this.

you mean all Staples are shipping is the C310s?
(512MB ROM and 64MB RAM with only Canada map loaded; uses software from Destinator Technologies)

is C310sx any better? (I saw from the GPSPassion forums that the sx uses software from I-GO instead)

It would be nice if we can get the model with 1GB or even 2GB ROM.

zzricezz
Jan 2nd, 2007, 03:58 PM
should read the whole thread (yeah its long :P) :twisted:

.....ok fine.... :) had the same happen and it will charge through USB but simply does not have nough juice to power up and charge. Plug it into the car adapter and it will turn on and charge at the same time immediately

Thanks.. too bad I don't have a car with me right now.. In Vancouver right now and I had mine ship to my hotel :).. just got in today.

Anyways.. if the first light is orange, is that charging? I notice that if I plug it into my second usb slot, the bottom would turn green..

I'm not sure which color is charging..

imran909
Jan 2nd, 2007, 04:01 PM
you mean all Staples are shipping is the C310s?
(512MB ROM and 64MB RAM with only Canada map loaded; uses software from Destinator Technologies)

is C310sx any better? (I saw from the GPSPassion forums that the sx uses software from I-GO instead)

It would be nice if we can get the model with 1GB or even 2GB ROM.


I got mine from Costco and it says "c310s" and it had an IGO software AKA Mio Map 3.2 works fine. It got CAN map pre-loaded and all US maps on DVD

IMI

bread1230
Jan 2nd, 2007, 04:06 PM
Thanks for sharing

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?webid=642979&AffixedCode=WW

price is $269.92 and you can use any $20 off coupon to bring the price down to $249.92

Features:
High Sensitivity SiRFstarIII GPS Receiver
Larger icons and a brighter display with a user-friendly touch screen make it easier to set your destination
Built-in Audio Player (MP3)
Map of Canada pre-loaded and ready to use out of the box (Map of USA is provided on bundled DVD)
Clear voice instructions and user-friendly menus in English, French and Spanish
No monthly service contract required
512MB ROM, 64MB RAM
3.5" TFT with touch screen and 65k colours
SD/MMC memory card expansion slot
Supports external TMC antenna
USB 1.1 connectivity
1200mAh Li-ion battery lasts up to 5 hours
Dimensions: 4.33"W x 3.03"H x 0.78"D
Weight: 6oz (170g)
1-year Limited Warranty.
Included in the Box:
AC Adapter and Car Charger
Car mount and holder
USB cable
Application CD, Map DVD

kqc
Jan 2nd, 2007, 04:08 PM
Are there anybody in the same boat as me?

I ordered my MIO on Wednesday night (December 27).. I recieved my confirmation email saying it will be here on Friday, Dec 29 between 9 and 5.. I waited all day on Friday, nothing came.. I called them at 6pm that day, asked them where is my package.. they say it's a very busy time for them, they cant make it to my house today, it has to be next week tuesday, January 2.. They already charged my credit card on December 28..

So today, at 9:30, I called them to confirm if they will make the delivery.. Staples asked me "Didn't you recieve your package already"? I was like WAHHHHHH?? They then put me on hold, later they came back and told me they will call me back??

Has this ever happen to anybody?

same here... ordered on Wednesday night, got an email saying it will be delivered on Thursday. Got a call on Thursday morning asking if I was home and I said yes. Waited the whole morning for nothing, then got another call from Stapes saying there was something wrong and it should arrive on Friday. Waited the whole day on Friday and still nothing. Called Staple today and CSR said there was some problem and they will deliver it tomorrow ...

what the hell>:(

imran909
Jan 2nd, 2007, 04:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by frankw
Go here....

http://www.ledshoppe.com/Product/ts/SP1009.htm

Two for $3.99 USD and no shipping costs. Cut about 3/4" off the length and the height is already perfect size. I have four of these now and they are as good as any so called $20 ripoff version.


Cheer![/QUOTE]

I find the above website fishy !! When in the process of inputing credit card info the website does not have the necessary ssl 128 bit encryption... seems wide open info that can be seen by any one ... has any one else has experience shopping with these guyz "led shoppe"?

IMI

petieboy
Jan 2nd, 2007, 04:14 PM
Are there anybody in the same boat as me?

I ordered my MIO on Wednesday night (December 27).. I recieved my confirmation email saying it will be here on Friday, Dec 29 between 9 and 5.. I waited all day on Friday, nothing came.. I called them at 6pm that day, asked them where is my package.. they say it's a very busy time for them, they cant make it to my house today, it has to be next week tuesday, January 2.. They already charged my credit card on December 28..

So today, at 9:30, I called them to confirm if they will make the delivery.. Staples asked me "Didn't you recieve your package already"? I was like WAHHHHHH?? They then put me on hold, later they came back and told me they will call me back??


I was in the same boat. Ordered Wed night, confirmed for Friday. Nothing.

Called them today since they're usually on time with my orders.. they said they'll contact the shippers and ask what's up then call me back. About 10 minutes later the GPS unit showed up at my door. Hopefully you'll get yours today too.

sunny923
Jan 2nd, 2007, 04:20 PM
If you need one in GTA now, act quick.

there are 21 available ATM.

Geil
Jan 2nd, 2007, 04:27 PM
Thanks.. too bad I don't have a car with me right now.. In Vancouver right now and I had mine ship to my hotel :).. just got in today.

Anyways.. if the first light is orange, is that charging? I notice that if I plug it into my second usb slot, the bottom would turn green..

I'm not sure which color is charging..

???? I never had a green light even if full but then I read bout some ppl having green leds showing p somehow. All I know is that
- first connected to my desktop: top LED would be amber but cannot power up
- then plugged into my lappy: same thing
- then plugged into car charger: same amber LED but the unit would power up and go through initialization. Had it connected for a while and then was able to use it disconnected and went back inside
- desktop connection: when on no LED, when off LED only lit up for short while and would go off, I fear that port is gone :P
- Lappy connection: still charges (Amber LED) but only if the unit is off
- connected to my AC to USB converter and charges and runs fine
I suspect standard USB port slow charges without allowing unit to be on and could potentially exceed power alotment on some USB ports. (I think the Razr acted very much alike) I left it connected to my lappy the rest of the day with the unit turned off and it did charge up fine just took a while

sunny923
Jan 2nd, 2007, 04:49 PM
how come this trhead is moved to expired deals already?
this deal is not over yet...........

petieboy
Jan 2nd, 2007, 04:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by frankw
Go here....

http://www.ledshoppe.com/Product/ts/SP1009.htm

Two for $3.99 USD and no shipping costs. Cut about 3/4" off the length and the height is already perfect size. I have four of these now and they are as good as any so called $20 ripoff version.


Cheer!

I find the above website fishy !! When in the process of inputing credit card info the website does not have the necessary ssl 128 bit encryption... seems wide open info that can be seen by any one ... has any one else has experience shopping with these guyz "led shoppe"?

IMI

Many of us have bought from there before w/o any issues.

The frame where you input your profile and payment info is hosted under SSL at CCNOW.com (the URL is https://www.ccnow.com/cgi-local/checkout.cgi).

Hope this helps.

slgta
Jan 2nd, 2007, 05:16 PM
This deal is not expired yet. Please move it back to "Hot Deal".

ditto
Jan 2nd, 2007, 05:52 PM
deleted

Geil
Jan 2nd, 2007, 06:27 PM
Many of us have bought from there before w/o any issues.

The frame where you input your profile and payment info is hosted under SSL at CCNOW.com (the URL is https://www.ccnow.com/cgi-local/checkout.cgi).

Hope this helps.

OK maybe I can get this clarified so my concern could be unjust.
Is this screen protector glossy/shiny or does it have an antiglare type surface?

saku
Jan 2nd, 2007, 08:23 PM
Deal is active..Mods, plz move this to Hot deals.

Shows $229.99 onli :)

Quebec: 999 left.

gheart008
Jan 2nd, 2007, 08:38 PM
Many of us have bought from there before w/o any issues.

The frame where you input your profile and payment info is hosted under SSL at CCNOW.com (the URL is https://www.ccnow.com/cgi-local/checkout.cgi).

Hope this helps.

yup I can 2nd that about ledshoppe, and their checkout frame using ssl. It's been discussed multiple times before under the recent deal threads from ledshoppe.

mcmc
Jan 2nd, 2007, 09:44 PM
I have just receive my C310 today which I have just placed the order on Friday. Super fast.
Without wasting too much time, too it's out for a test with the original system. Find it's wasn't as accurate as tomtom or garmin with my past experience with friend units. But it's relative good compare to the price. So... I waste no time and look up and hack the C310 and with friend help. loaded up with the Tomtom6. run great and more accurate than the original software.
Really happy with the way it's perform up until now, and the price i paid. $230 with changes in hand.
Cheers to RFDers for this great deal and better solution.

slgta
Jan 2nd, 2007, 09:52 PM
this item is once again became OOS (in GTA at least)

imnew
Jan 2nd, 2007, 10:53 PM
How do you go about installing the US map from the CD so we can use it when travelling from Canada to US..

sunny923
Jan 3rd, 2007, 12:02 AM
GTA 78 left ATM.

Geil
Jan 3rd, 2007, 12:10 AM
was trying it out today and on Kennedy travelling North just bout to pass Ellesmere unit asks me to turn into Ellesmere and U-turn on it to get to the "Other" side of Kennedy!!! I was baffeled and then checked on my PDA with TomTom 6 and guess what .... same shiet :confused:
tomtom 6 (at least on PDA) seems a lot more repsonsive and acurate but the map even though newer still is the same crap haha
all in all even with GPS do your research and plan ahead especially in City driving

Geil
Jan 3rd, 2007, 12:31 AM
found some interesting ibay submissions but cant paste a link. Just search Mio C310 for today.
One is selling at C$380 thats expected but another one is claiming to run TomTom 6 with International Maps for C$630!!!!

gheart008
Jan 3rd, 2007, 03:26 AM
Staples price has went back up to $269.92 now. Boxing week price is over.

karaki
Jan 3rd, 2007, 04:58 AM
Picked this up on New Years Eve from the Oakville Staples with 2 other friend; like what i see so far. Thanks for all the help folks; hacking this was a piece of cake after reading the step by step instructions.

I have read all 60 pages as I really hate repeat questions myself; I do have a couple of noob questions that I hope peeps can help out with.

1. I'm a total PDA noob...never had one before. The hack is the main reason I bought this...windows ce + gps for $230 is a steal. I know someone asked if we can get pocket excel/outlook and word to work and someone replied yes. Can anyone share any more info as to how; I have read this entire thread and haven't seen it. Main reason I would like it is I would love to keep some excel pricesheet with me when I meet with customers.

2. Anyone know a good source for Windows CE apps; none of the apps on www.tucows.com seem to work but that could just be user stupidity :D

Thanks again for all your help...keep the good posts coming!!

mimili
Jan 3rd, 2007, 09:01 AM
Placed my order yesterday, thank you guys.

michael1996
Jan 3rd, 2007, 09:20 AM
why don't u move it to hot deals? :cheesygri

gheart008
Jan 3rd, 2007, 10:46 AM
Is it normal for my unit to take like 5 minutes (yes 5 minutes) to acquire a signal every time I turn on the unit after leaving it off over night? Seems kind of ridiculous that it takes that long since 5 minutes could mean quite a big percentage of time for some trips...

magicBC
Jan 3rd, 2007, 11:06 AM
gheart008: Is it normal for my unit to take like 5 minutes (yes 5 minutes) to acquire a signal every time I turn on the unit after leaving it off over night? Seems kind of ridiculous that it takes that long since 5 minutes could mean quite a big percentage of time for some trips...

It takes about a minute on my machine to acquire the signal. Could you exchange and try another unit- once the sale price is over (now?) they may have quantity in stock. I also use a program on the Mio called Speed Sentry, and acquiring the signal takes less than a minute, not sure why. I know this software doesn't load up maps, it just tells the speed, elevation, and a few other variables. Good luck

ryershen
Jan 3rd, 2007, 11:52 AM
Picked this up on New Years Eve from the Oakville Staples with 2 other friend; like what i see so far. Thanks for all the help folks; hacking this was a piece of cake after reading the step by step instructions.

I have read all 60 pages as I really hate repeat questions myself; I do have a couple of noob questions that I hope peeps can help out with.

1. I'm a total PDA noob...never had one before. The hack is the main reason I bought this...windows ce + gps for $230 is a steal. I know someone asked if we can get pocket excel/outlook and word to work and someone replied yes. Can anyone share any more info as to how; I have read this entire thread and haven't seen it. Main reason I would like it is I would love to keep some excel pricesheet with me when I meet with customers.

2. Anyone know a good source for Windows CE apps; none of the apps on www.tucows.com seem to work but that could just be user stupidity :D

Thanks again for all your help...keep the good posts coming!!
I found a very useful site about this device, hope it helps:
http://johntam.com/tiki-index.php?page=Mio+c310x+GPS

This forum is useful, too
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=37

mblunt
Jan 3rd, 2007, 12:29 PM
I have been a big advocate of the Mio C310 since I first learned about this deal. For the hundreds of us that purchased this unit I want you to attempt to load all US maps to a SD card....

I purchased a 2 GB SD card and put all US maps on it yesterday. Immediately the united starting crashing giving me the error "Fatal Error, Unit will now restart". :mad: For the life of me I could not figure out the problem until just recently. I turns out that there is a specific order that you need to update your SD Card. Ideally leave the Southeastern USA maps (Florida etc) off of your SD card until very last... this has kept my unit the most stable. The reason why it kept crashing for me is that the Western USA maps has a faulty Base Map which basically causes any Canada to Florida routes to completely malfunction. Also I think the Northeastern USA base map causes all routes to Southeastern USA (California) to fail.

Try it yourself before your 30 day return period is up. Currently the maps are running stable but I tried a route from Canada to 30-40 states and no crash... except for once to Texas (not sure why.. don't really care).

Let me know if anyone gets a similar error and what you did to remedy it.

FYI my unit is completely not Hacked.

karaki
Jan 3rd, 2007, 04:23 PM
I found a very useful site about this device, hope it helps:
http://johntam.com/tiki-index.php?page=Mio+c310x+GPS

This forum is useful, too
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=37

Thanks a bunch...I'll check them out!!

slgta
Jan 3rd, 2007, 05:03 PM
please move this thread back to "hot deals".... this deal is still valid ... for $249.92 after coupon.... or $229.92 if you stack two $20 coupons.

helphelp911
Jan 3rd, 2007, 08:45 PM
Here is simple question. i tried to search but no luck

actually, what process does C310"SX" has?

i read someone said 300, or 400..

Q: What is the processor on this unit?
A: crossgar writes: If the c310x has the same internals as the C310 then it has an Intel® Xscale processor 300 MHz
thised1 writes: From what I've read, the c310 has Samsung S3C2440 processor running at 400 MHz. c310x believed to have the exact same hardware. Apparently, this CPU comes in three versions - 300 MHz (TT uses this), 400 MHz and 533 MHz (haven't seen any devices with 533).

So, how can i check which cpu do my unit have?

thanks

can2000
Jan 3rd, 2007, 09:23 PM
How to do soft reset and hard reset?

Thanks!

sunny923
Jan 3rd, 2007, 09:32 PM
Here is simple question. i tried to search but no luck

actually, what process does C310"SX" has?

i read someone said 300, or 400..

Q: What is the processor on this unit?
A: crossgar writes: If the c310x has the same internals as the C310 then it has an Intel® Xscale processor 300 MHz
thised1 writes: From what I've read, the c310 has Samsung S3C2440 processor running at 400 MHz. c310x believed to have the exact same hardware. Apparently, this CPU comes in three versions - 300 MHz (TT uses this), 400 MHz and 533 MHz (haven't seen any devices with 533).

So, how can i check which cpu do my unit have?

thanks


I am curious about it as well, can s/b tell?

The Black Pearl
Jan 3rd, 2007, 10:35 PM
Can anyone tell me if they can use the C310 when its plugged into the USB of the computer. I can not get past a transfer screen when its charging. I thought that I could use it while its charging?

helphelp911
Jan 3rd, 2007, 10:46 PM
Can anyone tell me if they can use the C310 when its plugged into the USB of the computer. I can not get past a transfer screen when its charging. I thought that I could use it while its charging?

yes, you can use mio while usb plug is in

can2000
Jan 3rd, 2007, 10:47 PM
yes, you can use mio while usb plug is in

not before it was hacked.

The Black Pearl
Jan 3rd, 2007, 10:52 PM
So it has to be hacked?

can2000
Jan 3rd, 2007, 10:57 PM
So it has to be hacked?

It is that case for me.


Is the CorePlayer v1.0.2 better than TCPMP .81 Beta ?

Thanks

The Black Pearl
Jan 3rd, 2007, 11:02 PM
yes, you can use mio while usb plug is in

Where you able to use your C310 when it was pluged into the computer prior to being hacked?

helphelp911
Jan 4th, 2007, 06:55 AM
Where you able to use your C310 when it was pluged into the computer prior to being hacked?

i am not sure. cause my unit is being hacked from me by day one.

and i can use gps while charging from computer after hack

helphelp911
Jan 4th, 2007, 06:58 AM
horrible routing from miomap/IGo

Normally, the entrance of highways are on the right side of the road.

BUT. miomap/IGo ask me to make a "SHARP LEFT TURN" to get into highways entrance on the opposite side of road.

And, it also LOVE to route to same highway. even thought it is closer to go another highway.

i have tried fastest, shortest and easy method but the above routing problem still existed.

anyone has an idea to solve the rounting problem.
i like to use miomap because it has good interface and POI
please help. thanks

magicBC
Jan 4th, 2007, 10:08 AM
It is that case for me.


Is the CorePlayer v1.0.2 better than TCPMP .81 Beta ?

Thanks

I think TCPMP .81 comes with a bunch of codecs that were offered free because the player itself was not commercial. However, I've heard CorePlayer is now payware, and royalties have to be paid in order to play some formats. Is one better? Well, I'm able to play divx, wma, mp3 and avi on TCMP- I know I'm missing a bunch- and this is all I need. If you want better video on the 310, install GAPI- does seem to slightly improve the video for me. Happy trails.

Carpe Diem
Jan 4th, 2007, 10:37 AM
Where you able to use your C310 when it was pluged into the computer prior to being hacked?


Just to clear this up...

You can't use the unit when pluged into a USB port on your computer. (out of the box)

You can use the unit when pluged into the Car (obviously).

And after you hack it...It will work while charging on a computers USB.

GiOBoY
Jan 4th, 2007, 10:51 AM
I just bought a 2GB memory card at buy.com .. it's going for $38.94 if anyone is interested. Great deal considering it can be also used as a miniSD card for other devices.

Kingston 2GB miniSD/SD Card (http://www.ca.buy.com/prod/Kingston_2GB_miniSD_Secure_Digital_Card_SD/q/loc/59205/202845139.html)

gheart008
Jan 4th, 2007, 11:31 AM
???? I never had a green light even if full but then I read bout some ppl having green leds showing p somehow. All I know is that
- first connected to my desktop: top LED would be amber but cannot power up
- then plugged into my lappy: same thing
- then plugged into car charger: same amber LED but the unit would power up and go through initialization. Had it connected for a while and then was able to use it disconnected and went back inside
- desktop connection: when on no LED, when off LED only lit up for short while and would go off, I fear that port is gone :P
- Lappy connection: still charges (Amber LED) but only if the unit is off
- connected to my AC to USB converter and charges and runs fine
I suspect standard USB port slow charges without allowing unit to be on and could potentially exceed power alotment on some USB ports. (I think the Razr acted very much alike) I left it connected to my lappy the rest of the day with the unit turned off and it did charge up fine just took a while

charging led color is amber, battery fully charged led color is green

torowl
Jan 4th, 2007, 12:45 PM
I just bought a 2GB memory card at buy.com .. it's going for $38.94 if anyone is interested. Great deal considering it can be also used as a miniSD card for other devices.

Kingston 2GB miniSD/SD Card (http://www.ca.buy.com/prod/Kingston_2GB_miniSD_Secure_Digital_Card_SD/q/loc/59205/202845139.html)

Canada Computer has 4G for 54.99. I brought one this morning. I can store more maps and movies...
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=012315&cid=990.218

sunny923
Jan 4th, 2007, 08:06 PM
Canada Computer has 4G for 54.99. I brought one this morning. I can store more maps and movies...
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=012315&cid=990.218

how's the speed? how's the performace on the MIO c310?

The Black Pearl
Jan 4th, 2007, 09:35 PM
Just to clear this up...

You can't use the unit when pluged into a USB port on your computer. (out of the box)

You can use the unit when pluged into the Car (obviously).

And after you hack it...It will work while charging on a computers USB.


Thanks...I bought an AC adapter tonight so I can use it while its pluged in and recharging. I will post the eBay link once I try it out to see if it works. The AC adapter is for a Razor cell. I tried my friends Razor adapter and it worked. The cost was under $9.00 Canadian for this Motorolla charger.

The Black Pearl
Jan 4th, 2007, 09:48 PM
horrible routing from miomap/IGo

Normally, the entrance of highways are on the right side of the road.

BUT. miomap/IGo ask me to make a "SHARP LEFT TURN" to get into highways entrance on the opposite side of road.

And, it also LOVE to route to same highway. even thought it is closer to go another highway.

i have tried fastest, shortest and easy method but the above routing problem still existed.

anyone has an idea to solve the rounting problem.
i like to use miomap because it has good interface and POI
please help. thanks

I noticed the same problem with the routing. I had to go into the itinerary and delete some of the roads and the C310 re-mapped the route until I was satisfied with the route. I usually travel from Ottawa to Florida or PEI so I will still sit down and review the route and modify it if required. The bottom line is that I won't have to use a paper map once the itinerary is finalized. For the on the fly mapping I will have to accept what the C310 maps and it may not be the best route, but when your vehicle is 45 feet long you will more than likely get to the destination without having to back up. I think that for $230 is better than me trying to figure out a map in a city or town that I have never traveled in and I will definitely make more errors than the C310.

On another note:

The songs I have on the 1gig SD card to not play to the end. The last few seconds are chopped off? Anyone know what I am doing wrong?

CoW_CoUnTrY
Jan 5th, 2007, 01:54 AM
Canada Computer has 4G for 54.99. I brought one this morning. I can store more maps and movies...
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=012315&cid=990.218


Me too...i just picked up one of those 4GB Kingmax this morning for my s310sx. Such a good deal.

michael1996
Jan 5th, 2007, 08:37 AM
I have some probelms with the realone player. The full screen is too small, some of the options are not working. Thank you for your help.:cheesygri

can2000
Jan 5th, 2007, 12:19 PM
I have some probelms with the realone player. The full screen is too small, some of the options are not working. Thank you for your help.:cheesygri

I would like the MPC, any link for the pocket PC version? thanks

silverdragun
Jan 6th, 2007, 07:30 PM
Hi,

How do I use maps of other countries, e.g., Australia?

Thanks

S.Chan
Jan 6th, 2007, 11:31 PM
How's the Mio C210 in comparison to the C310?

Futureshop/Bestbuy has an online sale on it for $199.99 (after $100 instant). If you PM Staples (which still has it at $299.97) and add a filler then use $20 off $200 coupon (62612, 62621, or 62617), you can get it down to $169.99 for it.

Pricematch:
$299.97 - $199.99 = $99.98 x 1.1 = $109.98
$299.97 - $109.98 = $189.99 - $20 Coupon (After adding in filler to make $200) = $169.99

FS: http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10077493&catid=11285&logon=&langid=EN (45 left)
BB: http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10077493&catid=23496 (OOS)
Staples: http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=&webid=649534&affixedcode=WW

willy
Jan 7th, 2007, 07:24 AM
Mio C210

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/images/products/ca649534_1_enl.jpg

tonic10
Jan 8th, 2007, 12:08 AM
Hi, if anyone is still looking for MIO 310SX... I have 3 of these units. Brand new, just opened to unlock the Mio's great potential through Windows CE. Installed with the essentials for video(CorePlayer) and photo playback, also includes Mobipocket(download news from thousands of RSS feeds including CNN, CBC, TSN, Maxim, etc.) and read it right on the Mio. I will show you how to install, edit files, and manage your Mio 310SX. Asking price is $260 firm. Please message me if you are interested, I am from Toronto, will do a local pick up within the GTA. Thanks.

theastroboy
Jan 8th, 2007, 11:47 PM
Problem is sometimes Staples will take off the coupon automatically (how nice!) if your purchase drops below the threshold of $200 after the PM.

How's the Mio C210 in comparison to the C310?

Futureshop/Bestbuy has an online sale on it for $199.99 (after $100 instant). If you PM Staples (which still has it at $299.97) and add a filler then use $20 off $200 coupon (62612, 62621, or 62617), you can get it down to $169.99 for it.

Pricematch:
$299.97 - $199.99 = $99.98 x 1.1 = $109.98
$299.97 - $109.98 = $189.99 - $20 Coupon (After adding in filler to make $200) = $169.99

FS: http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10077493&catid=11285&logon=&langid=EN (45 left)
BB: http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10077493&catid=23496 (OOS)
Staples: http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=&webid=649534&affixedcode=WW

VR6
Jan 9th, 2007, 03:20 PM
for me in the GVRD

helphelp911
Jan 9th, 2007, 05:01 PM
Good news, i am getting few more for my friend and family

dontoyou
Jan 12th, 2007, 04:21 PM
Hi, if anyone is still looking for MIO 310SX... I have 3 of these units. Brand new, just opened to unlock the Mio's great potential through Windows CE. Installed with the essentials for video(CorePlayer) and photo playback, also includes Mobipocket(download news from thousands of RSS feeds including CNN, CBC, TSN, Maxim, etc.) and read it right on the Mio. I will show you how to install, edit files, and manage your Mio 310SX. Asking price is $260 firm. Please message me if you are interested, I am from Toronto, will do a local pick up within the GTA. Thanks.

Do you still have them for sale?

mblunt
Jan 16th, 2007, 11:31 AM
Staples has now changed their price for the Mio to $399.... so glad I got mine for $199! :)

Thanks RedFlagDeals.

gheart008
Jan 16th, 2007, 11:34 AM
hmm just this weekend, it gave me the wrong address from the poi. Both addresses it gave me where a few blocks away, but it tacked on like 10 minutes of driving around trying to find the place. Also got that famous "make a sharp left turn" on the highway problem.

I think I"m definitely going to try and put a different map software since the Miomap just ain't working out.

dav1209
Feb 13th, 2007, 04:11 PM
costco.ca seem to out of this product....
can't price match anymore

imnew
Apr 25th, 2007, 10:00 PM
Sorry to bring this thread up.... I don't have a choice....

I haven't use the gps for a while. I decided to turn it on to check to make sure everything is still good, while preping for a trip to US...

Noticed that the unit doesn't boot up into the hack skin any longer and goes directly to miomap as if it has never been hacked.. Also it doesn't recognized my card any longer..

The screen shows a 'X' with a finger pointing to the card. I tried several of them..

Any ideas what happened....:mad:

redmileage99
Apr 25th, 2007, 10:25 PM
If you haven't used it for while, battery will die, that is equiverlent to hard reset. You need to unlock it again and install your software.

Sorry to bring this thread up.... I don't have a choice....

I haven't use the gps for a while. I decided to turn it on to check to make sure everything is still good, while preping for a trip to US...

Noticed that the unit doesn't boot up into the hack skin any longer and goes directly to miomap as if it has never been hacked.. Also it doesn't recognized my card any longer..

The screen shows a 'X' with a finger pointing to the card. I tried several of them..

Any ideas what happened....:mad:

doombox414
Apr 25th, 2007, 10:38 PM
sorry to crap on this thread but i didnt like this gps at all. it shows me the wrong way ..hate the software, manual, screen ..hate it.

i bought it at the end of december . i am selling it for the same price with warranty and recipts. pm me for details

imnew
Apr 25th, 2007, 10:39 PM
If you haven't used it for while, battery will die, that is equiverlent to hard reset. You need to unlock it again and install your software.

I was able to do that.. But now I think during the hacking process, I accidently deleted the miomap directory... Now I can't find it...

Now what?? HLP!!!!

redmileage99
Apr 25th, 2007, 11:04 PM
I was able to do that.. But now I think during the hacking process, I accidently deleted the miomap directory... Now I can't find it...

Now what?? HLP!!!!

You can restore miomap and original software from the CD, then you can unlock it.

redmileage99
Apr 25th, 2007, 11:08 PM
If you can review some threads in the follow link and still think you don't like mio, go ahead to sell it.

http://www.mionav.com


sorry to crap on this thread but i didnt like this gps at all. it shows me the wrong way ..hate the software, manual, screen ..hate it.

i bought it at the end of december . i am selling it for the same price with warranty and recipts. pm me for details

michael1996
Apr 27th, 2007, 04:58 PM
did anybody try Destinator 6 in c310?

thanks

imnew
Apr 29th, 2007, 06:05 PM
Another - Question...

Can I install the maps to run from SD card? Currently, I have NorthEast US & Canada on the unit itself, I tried to add some extra POI such as Timmies etc.. It tells me I don't have enough space...

If I copy the IGO.db to the SD card, how can I make it to point there instead of on the unit itself??