IE 7 is out. What is the deal? [Archive]

Menace

Oct 18th, 2006, 06:17 PM

Oversized Rooster

Oct 18th, 2006, 06:26 PM

This is the one without Yahoo junk

http://www.ajerman.com/IE7-Setup.exe

Anywho, what is the big deal with this release? I just don't see it can kick Firefox's ass. I will stick with Firefox for the forseeable future.

I don't deny that Firefox is more secure. But with IE you don't need a thousand plugins just to view a web page.

Menace

Oct 18th, 2006, 06:34 PM

True. I just updated my IE to 7 and I don't see any major changes. I may see some improvement if I were going to reformat my computer and reinstall Windows XP.

But with IE you don't need a thousand plugins just to view a web page.

Absolute

Oct 18th, 2006, 06:35 PM

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx

MS says only RC1 is out - where's the announcement for the final?

Oversized Rooster

Oct 18th, 2006, 06:36 PM

True. I just updated my IE to 7 and I don't see any major changes. I may see some improvement if I were going to reformat my computer and reinstall Windows XP.

I think any significant changes to IE lie somewhere underneath. I tried it back when they were in the Beta 1 stage. This is still RC1 - and not the final but I actually prefer the interface of IE6 compared to 7.

I'll just wait for the final version and upgrade to IE7 at that moment. I'm not a Firefox guy myself, but there is certainly nothing wrong with the open source development bringing competitive, similar products (in some ways better). :cheesygri

willy

Oct 18th, 2006, 07:08 PM

http://news.com.com/Yahoo+beats+Microsoft+to+punch+with+IE+update/2100-1012-6127211.html?part=dht&tag=nl.e433

Absolute

Oct 18th, 2006, 07:43 PM

http://news.com.com/Yahoo+beats+Microsoft+to+punch+with+IE+update/2100-1012-6127211.html?part=dht&tag=nl.e433

Thanks; I'll avoid any Yahoo-infected browser :D

atforum

Oct 18th, 2006, 09:07 PM

Microsoft has officially launched its browser. Time to crush firefox :cheesygri

Looks a lot better than RC1 and is more fast.

Oversized Rooster

Oct 18th, 2006, 09:33 PM

Microsoft has officially launched its browser. Time to crush firefox :cheesygri

Looks a lot better than RC1 and is more fast.

WTF earlier today there was only RC1 available. Oh well the final is upon us, and I'm downloading as I write this!

input

Oct 18th, 2006, 10:58 PM

Worth the upgrade? I'm fine with Opera plus I'm not feeling the new look vista-ish... Where the hell is the File, Edit, etc.? (Like any Microsoft software, is it worth the upgrade?)

Oversized Rooster

Oct 18th, 2006, 11:29 PM

Worth the upgrade? I'm fine with Opera plus I'm not feeling the new look vista-ish... Where the hell is the File, Edit, etc.? (Like any Microsoft software, is it worth the upgrade?)

Well it appears that most of what used to be the Edit menu is now inside the "Page" menu (a button on the top-right) below the search field.

And some of the File menu has been taken into the Tools menu and Print menu (respective buttons also on the top-right). I'm not having an easy time with this IE7 so far...

And I don't like how small they made the Back/Forward and Refresh and Stop buttons. Plus why the hell did they put the Refresh and Stop buttons completely far from the Back/Forward buttons?!

CheapScotsman

Oct 18th, 2006, 11:44 PM

Can you have IE6 and IE7 installed and/or running at the same time?

Mir

Oct 19th, 2006, 12:23 AM

Just Done D/L loving it so far
Installation was Super Fast so was installation

atforum

Oct 19th, 2006, 12:31 AM

Can you have IE6 and IE7 installed and/or running at the same time?

nope you cant do that, atleast through straight forward means. Probably google and you might find some loop

atforum

Oct 19th, 2006, 12:39 AM

Well it appears that most of what used to be the Edit menu is now inside the "Page" menu (a button on the top-right) below the search field.

And some of the File menu has been taken into the Tools menu and Print menu (respective buttons also on the top-right). I'm not having an easy time with this IE7 so far...

And I don't like how small they made the Back/Forward and Refresh and Stop buttons. Plus why the hell did they put the Refresh and Stop buttons completely far from the Back/Forward buttons?!

Lol seriously dude you gotto learn to use the keyboard for such stuff. I hate to see ppl using their mouse to click go, stop etc :cheesygri ...hehe but all boils down to user preference. BUt you might wanna consider the tips

1) If you want the old menu bar, either click alt and it will show up temporarily. TO have it permanently do alt+v -> toolbar->menu bar or click the tools icon on the right hand and click menubar

2) to go back use backspace key or (alt+left arrow)

3) to go forward use alt+right arrow

4) refresh = f5

5) stop = esc

:)

bubble.tea

Oct 19th, 2006, 02:35 AM

Maxthon FOR-evaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

just_For_ipod

Oct 19th, 2006, 02:48 AM

Looking at the screenshots of IE7, I will stick to IE6. Layout looks crap, plus its just going to gobble up more resources.
If I want tabbed browsing, then I will use Opera, which is also the most secure browser on the windows OS. :razz:

Emendo

Oct 19th, 2006, 04:12 AM

Maxthon FOR-evaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Still, it's good to have an updated rendering engine for Maxthon.:)

LNahid2000

Oct 19th, 2006, 05:21 AM

I've been using it since Beta 1 and love it. The new interface gives you a lot more screen real estate than IE6 or Firefox. And tabbed browsing is cool. Plus, it works with my keyboard shortcuts unlike firefox.

willy

Oct 19th, 2006, 09:08 AM

Now that's quick ... "Secunia has confirmed the vulnerability on a fully patched system with Internet Explorer 7.0 and Microsoft Windows XP SP2. Other versions may also be affected."

http://secunia.com/advisories/22477/

Kurtz7834

Oct 19th, 2006, 09:12 AM

Yeah, looks like it's final.

I recommend anyone who uses Windows downloads this, even though I myself use Opera and Firefox 99% of the time.

Why? Because of all of the security fixes alone and added security.

Businesses should test it before rolling it out company wide though. I have been using it since the betas and since RC1 most of the bugs seem to be gone.

I am disappointed though that MS has given up supporting Outlook Express, which remains one of the most popular email clients on Earth. IE7 has no update for OE. Vista includes a minor one. MS would rather you use the web based Hotmail crap. OE remains the best Hotmail reader.

Gee

Oct 19th, 2006, 09:13 AM

Why would Microsoft include Yahoo products with a browser they release? Doesn't Yahoo compete with MSN?

matkun

Oct 19th, 2006, 09:27 AM

Speaking of Maxthon, which I love.. is it compatible with IE7? Will downloading IE7 screw over my lovely lovely Maxthon and make me unable to view my delicious groups?

downz

Oct 19th, 2006, 10:01 AM

Why would Microsoft include Yahoo products with a browser they release? Doesn't Yahoo compete with MSN?
Microsoft and Yahoo are in bed with each other. Do a google search on Google. :)

downz

Oct 19th, 2006, 10:03 AM

matkun

Oct 19th, 2006, 10:05 AM

They don't include it.. Yahoo just released a customized version of IE7. Microsoft just provided companies with ways of customizing IE7. Great for corporate IT departments..

downz

Oct 19th, 2006, 10:14 AM

They don't include it.. Yahoo just released a customized version of IE7. Microsoft just provided companies with ways of customizing IE7. Great for corporate IT departments..Actually on another system of mine when I went to have a look, there were three options on the Microsoft site and one of them did basically pimp Yahoo.

Kurtz7834

Oct 19th, 2006, 10:39 AM

I've been using IE7 Beta 3 and when I go to download the final version, it tells me that I'm using IE7 and there's no link to update. Maybe it will be don e through Windows Update. My current version is 7.05450.4.

www.microsoft.com/ie

Download the final version there.

Will uninstall the beta, reboot and install the final version.

Gee

Oct 19th, 2006, 10:54 AM

Microsoft and Yahoo are in bed with each other. Do a google search on Google. :)

I really doubt that. More likely, as Matkum mentioned. Yahoo customized it

downz

Oct 19th, 2006, 10:56 AM

www.microsoft.com/ie

Download the final version there.

Will uninstall the beta, reboot and install the final version.
If I go in with Firefox then it doesn't block the link. For anyone else who had the same problem then check out the details in the release notes. It just takes an uninstallation

http://msdn.microsoft.com/ie/releasenotes/default.aspx

downz

Oct 19th, 2006, 11:19 AM

I really doubt that. More likely, as Matkum mentioned. Yahoo customized it

Do you also doubt that MSN and Yahoo Messengers recently (finally) managed to offer interoperability...many, many months after Jabber and Trillian accomplished that feat? I wonder if this has anything to do with Google Talk or Skype.

Anyways, I now have the final version of IE.. 7.0.5730.11.

Gee

Oct 19th, 2006, 11:37 AM

I know that MSN and Yahoo are not working together on the browser based on this article

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060611-7029.html

M-e-X-x

Oct 19th, 2006, 12:22 PM

it renders faster, if u turn off auto-phishing... if not then it's slower than firefox

sleepyguy

Oct 19th, 2006, 01:18 PM

Man... I have a bad feeling this is gonna break alot of our work apps... oh boy. Longs hours for me testing :(

xwar

Oct 19th, 2006, 01:44 PM

Can you have IE6 and IE7 installed and/or running at the same time?

nope, it got rid of IE6.

atforum

Oct 19th, 2006, 01:45 PM

Man... I have a bad feeling this is gonna break alot of our work apps... oh boy. Longs hours for me testing :(

all websites that i visit are working fine so far !!!

gilboman

Oct 19th, 2006, 03:21 PM

This is the one without Yahoo junk

http://www.ajerman.com/IE7-Setup.exe

Anywho, what is the big deal with this release? I just don't see it can kick Firefox's ass. I will stick with Firefox for the forseeable future.

firefox has been in the crapper for a while now. it was good when it was a novelty, but past few releases has been junk

Ryan

Oct 26th, 2006, 12:48 PM

I just updated from an older beta... when did they turn on font smoothing? Makes every font look like it's bold. I can't believe they would have this on by default...

don242

Nov 29th, 2006, 12:47 PM

I just let IE 7 update on my computer. The toolbar is horrible. No customization at all. I can't resize the address bar. The home button and refresh button are all over the place when they should be beside the back button.

matkun

Nov 29th, 2006, 01:21 PM

I just updated from an older beta... when did they turn on font smoothing? Makes every font look like it's bold. I can't believe they would have this on by default...

Yeah, they have ClearType on by default, probably since most people that would get it now have LCDs and going forward it will only increase.

input

Nov 29th, 2006, 02:49 PM

Yeah, they have ClearType on by default, probably since most people that would get it now have LCDs and going forward it will only increase.

I personally don't like ClearType. Have you noticed how blurry looking font is on the Mac? I don't like anti-aliasing for my font, I like it as sharp pixels. Thats why I can't stand the interface on any of the new iPods, damn blurry font.

warpdrive

Nov 29th, 2006, 03:59 PM

Cleartype (and any antialiasing techniques) is very much easier to read. I don't understand why somebody would prefer to have it turned off.

ilovecables

Dec 12th, 2006, 12:12 AM

Maybe it's my PC - has anybody noticed IE7 is more of a hog than IE6? Maybe it's time for a RAM boost..... :cheesygri

nouse8

Dec 12th, 2006, 02:03 AM

Cleartype (and any antialiasing techniques) is very much easier to read. I don't understand why somebody would prefer to have it turned off.

because you are using LCD monitor.

hyperion

Dec 12th, 2006, 02:32 AM

IE7 is garbage, and this is coming from a long time IE user. It was back to IE6 for me after 2-3 days of IE7.

don242

Dec 12th, 2006, 08:22 AM

I have had nothing but problems since letting IE 7 install. Outlook Express crashes now and I have to restart OE a few times before it actually works.

I do like the tabbed browsing (though when I click a link in my email, it still opens a new window even though I have it set not to) but other than that, IE7 has been nothing but a hassle.