View Full Version : Battlefield2142 - A New Form of Low
MkmBandit
Oct 17th, 2006, 08:37 AM
a pic posted on my clan's brother site(Frustration Inc)
Read the BOLD at the bottom
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7315/igavy2.jpg
Pro
Oct 17th, 2006, 08:45 AM
I played the demo...the game is weak. I just can't get a good feel for it.
Battlefield 2 taliban killin' for life!
asot24
Oct 17th, 2006, 10:31 AM
**** EA.
I was gonna buy this, dunno anywhere if it installs spyware/adware on it.
MkmBandit
Oct 17th, 2006, 10:52 AM
**** EA.
I was gonna buy this, dunno anywhere if it installs spyware/adware on it.
Found on Total2142 Forums
The information that is gathered is specifically related to the ingame ads themselves and not anything personally related to you.
There is no additional spy ware software installed secretly to your machine.
jedijome
Oct 17th, 2006, 05:43 PM
yeah i'm not buying this game.
it doesn't feel like a real game, but more like a mod to bf2.
speaking of mods those booster packs they tried to sell to people were nothing more than that, mini mods which should have been included in the original game.
MkmBandit
Oct 17th, 2006, 05:55 PM
BBAHAHAHAHHAHAHA Patch released even before the game was released lmfao hahaha those idiots
On EA Downloader and EA's FTP Site: 17 MB in size
DOWNLOAD
Patch specific info from the README:
Quote:
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VII. PATCH 1.01
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BUG FIXES
- Fixed Client Side Crash on Titan Mode.
SuSHi
Oct 17th, 2006, 06:13 PM
BBAHAHAHAHHAHAHA Patch released even before the game was released lmfao hahaha those idiots
ummmm closed beta testing? smart guy
MkmBandit
Oct 17th, 2006, 07:03 PM
ummmm closed beta testing? smart guy
that patch isn't for the Beta..
jollyeskimo
Oct 17th, 2006, 07:07 PM
damnit... how can they make games that are so much fun....so bad?
SuSHi
Oct 17th, 2006, 07:17 PM
that patch isn't for the Beta..
the bug was found during beta...
why would they patch a beta?
MkmBandit
Oct 17th, 2006, 07:20 PM
the bug was found during beta...
why would they patch a beta?
no **** sherlock.. then wth are you talking about... :confused:
Ch28
Oct 17th, 2006, 07:27 PM
no **** sherlock.. then wth are you talking about... :confused:
ROFL haha
SuSHi
Oct 17th, 2006, 07:38 PM
they found a bug in beta and fixed it for the retail final release
is that hard to understand? it's not too funny considering thousands of bugs are found during the testing process, and that pc games get patched periodically
masterhapposai
Oct 17th, 2006, 07:45 PM
they found a bug in beta and fixed it for the retail final release
is that hard to understand? it's not too funny considering thousands of bugs are found during the testing process, and that pc games get patched periodically
either way he's right
last minute overtime patch means the game isn't mature. it's fresh off beta and will have tons of unresolved issues.
Evil Techie
Oct 17th, 2006, 08:05 PM
either way he's right
last minute overtime patch means the game isn't mature. it's fresh off beta and will have tons of unresolved issues.
:arrowu: thats an accurate description of any EA games nowadays
they never really bring out any stables games
its always full of bugs until they start patching
but then introduce more bugs when patching
ive already decided a while ago that i wont be buying this game
SuSHi
Oct 17th, 2006, 08:15 PM
either way he's right
last minute overtime patch means the game isn't mature. it's fresh off beta and will have tons of unresolved issues.
bugs are always found in beta, you should be glad they actually decided to fix it instead unlike the majority of them that don't get addressed
asot24
Oct 17th, 2006, 08:57 PM
patch + adaware/spyware + EA's general BS = no buy.
too bad because I was going to buy this today at FS for 49.99
konfusion666
Oct 18th, 2006, 11:51 AM
yeah i'm not buying this game.
it doesn't feel like a real game, but more like a mod to bf2.
I tried the demo and I agree with you 100%. it definitely feels like a MOD to BF2.
sure it was fun, and i'll prolly keep playing the demo for a bit.
But it's nothing like BF2, so I'm not going to buy it.
And all the advertising stuff makes me suspicious as well.. makes me even less likely to buy it.
bionicbadger
Oct 18th, 2006, 12:40 PM
Thats nothing....
EA released a patch for Battlefield 2142 today, and if you look through its ReadMe:"Players who have the Windows security update KB917422 installed may suffer from an application error when running Battlefield 2142. This error can be solved by uninstalling the KB917422 update."
And what does the Windows security update KB917422 do?
From Microsoft: "A security issue has been identified in the Windows Kernel that could allow an attacker to compromise your Windows-based system and gain control over it.
MkmBandit
Oct 18th, 2006, 12:46 PM
thats so rediculous..
Players who have the Windows security update KB917422 installed may suffer from an application error when running Battlefield 2142. This error can be solved by uninstalling the KB917422 update.
Here's what this security update does:
MS06-051: Vulnerability in the Windows kernel could result in remote code execution
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917422
Uninstall this security update at your own risk!
I wonder when EA will run out of 'ideas' to make all their clients pawns with their software
IGA's Townsend On BF2142 In-Game Ads It has been a huge controversary over the past few days about how the in game ads will work in Battlefield 2142. And now to clarify the talk, here's what Justin Townsend had to say:
Specifically, IGA's software uses the IP address for geotargeting of in-game ads (so that European ads are not shown to those in the U.S., for example). It also creates a unique user number that's generated locally, and is able to re-identify the gamer when he next appears online.
In addition, IGA's in-game ad solution does capture the time of day that the user started to play each gaming session - Townsend mentioned, as an example, that "if the brief says 'Males 18 to 34'", the ads may only be served between 6pm and 9pm on a weekday evening or similar, to replicate 'primetime' viewing.
The time that each ad impression takes place is also recorded by IGA, alongside what type of ad content it was (billboard, megaboard, or video stream), the duration (how long was the ad seen for), the size of the ad relative to the player, and the angle of deflection (what angle the ad is viewed at).
To check out the entire article which explains in depth the ad issue, click here.
othy
Oct 18th, 2006, 01:54 PM
I was a huge, huge battlefield 1942/vietnam/2 fan (yes, even vietnam!) and I won't be buying 2142. Haven't even downloaded the demo.
EA's slapdash quality control and shady monopolistic business practices have turned me off completely, and I just can't be bothered to support them. Whenever I read about a new game by them with some cool game mechanic I think "yeah, but it will probably have a large dollop of EA-suck on top". Case in point: Burnout Revenge for the 360. I couldn't stand the menu interface, slow loading times, repetitive levels and dreadful in-game music. Add onto that their refusal to just work with xbox live but instead adding their own stupid login bullcrap, and I was just glad I rented it instead of bought. Returned it after 3 days of a 5 day rental.
EA's not getting any more of my cash.. Well, possibly for Spore ;)
luthair
Oct 18th, 2006, 02:45 PM
I seem to recall another game having these same adds in 6-12 months ago.
Also its hardly unusual for games to have patches released quite early as it can take some time for them to create a stable build, get it to the CD Press, packaging, shipped, etc.
aidzhsiah
Oct 18th, 2006, 06:14 PM
either way he's right
last minute overtime patch means the game isn't mature. it's fresh off beta and will have tons of unresolved issues.
That's just unfair. All games released onto the market are 'fresh off beta' and have 'tons of unresolved issues'. By definition, release comes right after beta. And while it may seem like EA's sloppy, I can say that nearly every game on the market ships with hundreds of bugs( if not more). Release day patches are fairly common - I can remember more than one game than hasn't worked out of the box on release day for me.
I have no love for EA and I agree the whole advertising thing is controversial (plus having it interfere with security updates is borderline retarded) but people are making a big fuss over a patch and ignoring that the game is generally getting favorable reviews.
konfusion666
Oct 18th, 2006, 06:41 PM
but people are making a big fuss over a patch and ignoring that the game is generally getting favorable reviews.
less than BF2, though (on average)! and I find that the reviewers largely have the same criticisms as me (in terms of actual gameplay).
it's why i'm skipping it. hell, i might actually go for one of the BF2 expansions instead, if any go on sale now. :/
MkmBandit
Oct 18th, 2006, 07:12 PM
less than BF2, though (on average)! and I find that the reviewers largely have the same criticisms as me (in terms of actual gameplay).
it's why i'm skipping it. hell, i might actually go for one of the BF2 expansions instead, if any go on sale now. :/
I have yet to read a good review on the game, unless its from an affiliate of theirs. The real reviews come from the Gamers, although we're the minority compared to casual gamers. Nonetheless, our opinion is just as valid. And our opinion is that the game is not only pre-mature, but its failed to live up to even the lowest of standards.
I mean, seriously, how can EA release a game knowing there's an issue with it? And not a small issue, a SERVER issue, which is essentially the backbone of the game. Concidering this game is not meant to be played single player, and the servers dont last 10 minutes without crashing, i'd say the game right there is pretty useless. Then there are all the other bugs. Things like 'griefing' and 'exploits' which are issues that shouldve been dealt with during BETA, but weren't.
EA released the beta on THREE occasions, and they all failed. Based on that I cant seem to fathom why they released the game, knowing it would take a nosedive. What ends up happening is the same thing that happened with BF2. The gamers play the game for a week, then spend a month waiting for a bloody patch to come out. Why wont EA just spare us our money and heartache already?
I've been playing EA games since, jordan vs bird and NHL96. I'm a die hard gamer, and EA has ALWAYS had my support. This game has crossed the line, and dont think that other gamers dont feel the same way. Like I said, I have yet to hear a positive review, from game reviewers or just gamers alike.
SuSHi
Oct 18th, 2006, 07:23 PM
I have yet to read a good review on the game, unless its from an affiliate of theirs. The real reviews come from the Gamers, although we're the minority compared to casual gamers. Nonetheless, our opinion is just as valid. And our opinion is that the game is not only pre-mature, but its failed to live up to even the lowest of standards.
I mean, seriously, how can EA release a game knowing there's an issue with it? And not a small issue, a SERVER issue, which is essentially the backbone of the game. Concidering this game is not meant to be played single player, and the servers dont last 10 minutes without crashing, i'd say the game right there is pretty useless. Then there are all the other bugs. Things like 'griefing' and 'exploits' which are issues that shouldve been dealt with during BETA, but weren't.
EA released the beta on THREE occasions, and they all failed. Based on that I cant seem to fathom why they released the game, knowing it would take a nosedive. What ends up happening is the same thing that happened with BF2. The gamers play the game for a week, then spend a month waiting for a bloody patch to come out. Why wont EA just spare us our money and heartache already?
I've been playing EA games since, jordan vs bird and NHL96. I'm a die hard gamer, and EA has ALWAYS had my support. This game has crossed the line, and dont think that other gamers dont feel the same way. Like I said, I have yet to hear a positive review, from game reviewers or just gamers alike.
it's kinda funny how jaded you are about EA
gamespot gave it a 8.1 and they're overall average of games is around 7, and what do you mean by reviews from affiliates? like espn?
oooooh and a metacritic of 84 http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/battlefield2142
horrible absolutely horrible :rolleyes:
aidzhsiah
Oct 18th, 2006, 07:44 PM
I mean, seriously, how can EA release a game knowing there's an issue with it? And not a small issue, a SERVER issue, which is essentially the backbone of the game.Isn't this the reason why they patched it for release? When you buy the game, the patch is ready - as consumers, we really don't lose anything (you'd need to update before you play online anyway).
And again, to reiterate - ALL companies ship games with bugs in them. That's just a reality of game development. It's a business necessity to determine what's left in the game vs. the cost of fixing it and delaying release. EA is not the only people who do it and BF2142 is not the first game by a long shot to need a release day patch to make it playable.
Then there are all the other bugs. Things like 'griefing' and 'exploits' which are issues that shouldve been dealt with during BETA, but weren't. Even the best developers can't fully anticipate all situations to fix before release. Look at Blizzard... patches for all their games come out all the time to fix exploits and griefs - even months or years after release. But you can't say they've been sloppy in their testing.
The reviews on metacritic are favorable (although not as good a BF2) and I've seen comments from people who are enjoying the game already.
Emancipated
Oct 18th, 2006, 11:03 PM
:arrowu: thats an accurate description of any EA games nowadays
they never really bring out any stables games
its always full of bugs until they start patching
but then introduce more bugs when patching
ive already decided a while ago that i wont be buying this game
I am sorry, but that is an unfair criticism, full stop. What software have you known that has not needed some tinkering after the fact? It's almost inherently part of software; games or otherwise.
Evil Techie
Oct 19th, 2006, 04:16 AM
I am sorry, but that is an unfair criticism, full stop. What software have you known that has not needed some tinkering after the fact? It's almost inherently part of software; games or otherwise.
how is it unfair though
what i said was that EA actually brings out more bugs with each patch
NOT: EA is the only game maker that brings out games with bugs
lol i cant believe that EA wants ppl to uninstall an winxp security patch as a fix for the game
whats next? BF2142 incompatible with windows vista? EA's solution would be dont use Vista and use winXP instead?
lol
ShadowVlican
Oct 19th, 2006, 03:15 PM
i wonder if people who download this game will have this problem "patched" ;)
fenrus
Oct 19th, 2006, 10:13 PM
yeah okay, every game is shipped with bugs.
but it's the severity of these bugs that EA decides to ship games with. we're not talking about minor clipping in the graphics issues or an error in the damage calculation. I mean a major server bug? come on! that's like forgetting to put guns in the game.
I'm sure the QA people found the bug. It's probably jsut the devs who just choose to ship the game hoping the bug won't manifest itself.
aidzhsiah
Oct 20th, 2006, 05:35 AM
Again, it's not something that just EA is guilty of.
There's plenty of online games that have been nearly unplayable until a server patch was applied early on. Did you ever see the World of Warcraft launch ?
With PC products especially, in a lot of cases, rather than fix a bug at the end of the product cycle and miss the launch date, they send to manufacturing and use the time before product retail launch to patch it.
The patch came out on release day anyway. It's not like you can buy the game and find you can't play the game - the patch is available already.
Menace
Oct 20th, 2006, 01:07 PM
I borrowed it but I didn't feel like installing on my system. Yike spyware.
i wonder if people who download this game will have this problem "patched" ;)
Evil Techie
Oct 20th, 2006, 08:09 PM
its not just the bugs that frustrates us most
its also that EA is clearly out for money grabbing
every expansion pack and so on for BF2 have been lacking in depth and all the incentives for buying them is just that u get advantage of newer unlocks and some new maps over other players
thats nothing a mod cant fix
in fact, i have played free mods for BF2 that are better than expansion packs sold by EA
and the bug problem isnt just limited to the release of the game, EA has been introducing more and more bugs for BF2 through all of its patches
and it takes them like 5 months just to fix a simple problem
and the reason for all these problems is because EA and DICE are always making newer expansion packs and games (BF2142 for example) that they keep on delaying the development of the patches
for them, productivity that leads to big profit comes first and customer satisfaction/quality assurance comes second
so all the current BF2 players got gyped with a buggy game while EA expects these same players to buy their new game
no no, i refuse to buy into that same old routine
NO BF2142 for me!
nite4evr
Oct 23rd, 2006, 03:36 AM
Aint getting it, heard it's not really a good game.
coilz
Oct 23rd, 2006, 12:43 PM
hMm.. do people still play Bf1942? That can be have for cheap now and I am sure its been all patched up now.
sleepyguy
Oct 23rd, 2006, 01:04 PM
Wow... very sad, and I thought Starforce was bad.
Good thing i play yesteryear offline games :)
Headhunter
Oct 23rd, 2006, 01:34 PM
In spite of all the issues mentioned above, I'm still somewhat interested in trying the game out. That said, I can't log into EA.com, either on their website or within the 2142 demo.
Does anyone have advice on how I can resolve this?
othy
Oct 23rd, 2006, 01:56 PM
I saw 2142 at the futureshop last week and it took all of my strength to not buy it.. I must resist!
I got the Dawn of War expansion instead, done by people who are not evil!
MkmBandit
Oct 23rd, 2006, 02:04 PM
In spite of all the issues mentioned above, I'm still somewhat interested in trying the game out. That said, I can't log into EA.com, either on their website or within the 2142 demo.
Does anyone have advice on how I can resolve this?
:-0 you're still having this problem?! You asked in another thread and I figured once the game was released it would solve your problem. To be honest, I wouldnt be surprised if your issue was just EA related. So many people have had problems with not being able to access their veterans account, or just not being able to connect through EA downloader.
Headhunter
Oct 23rd, 2006, 02:28 PM
:-0 you're still having this problem?! You asked in another thread and I figured once the game was released it would solve your problem. To be honest, I wouldnt be surprised if your issue was just EA related. So many people have had problems with not being able to access their veterans account, or just not being able to connect through EA downloader.
It's definitely EA related, but how on Earth do I correct this?
I could make a new account to log in to ask why I can't login to my original one, but... :|