Do not deal with user "ticallian" (emt scam) [Archive]

qaplmz

Sep 21st, 2006, 08:45 PM

user "ticallian"

user wanted to buy my laptop, we aranged everything, and it was all done i was going to meet him at union station in a couple of hours. we were communicating over msn and at the last minute he tells me he doesnt have the cash right now, but he can get his "bro" to send me an emt and he cant get his bro to withdrawl cash because hes at work and he works far from him, i refused and told him i would only take cash, i even offered to drive to him (near niagra) tomorrow to get cash but he was presistent on meeting tonight and using emt, user only had 1 heatware (under "madmanticallian") also and it was for another laptop very suspicious

be carefull with this user.

ticallian

Sep 21st, 2006, 09:04 PM

lol.....ur funny bro i already had deals with couple of other people and they know who they are u just came too paranoid and I have dealt with avexus whom i bought a laptop for my brother the other day and now when im buying one for my self u think i am a scammer. lol
For Darington this doesn alter our deal bro its just if i had a deal with this guy on his laptop i would of told u but hes finding me suspicious.
anyways

deejayspinz

Sep 21st, 2006, 10:18 PM

Darrington Darque

Sep 21st, 2006, 10:31 PM

qaplmz is full of junk.

Ive been dealing with Ticallian as well the whole time, and he has always been the buyer, and always willing to pay before the product being sent.

I ended up selling to another buyer (a close friend), and apologized to him for backing out, but he definitely hasnt been trying to rip me off.

I dont know what QA is talking about, as I dont see how a buyer can scam someone out of something unless the seller is a complete moron.

Cheers.

FlintBlade

Sep 21st, 2006, 10:39 PM

as I dont see how a buyer can scam someone out of something unless the seller is a complete moron.

Cheers.

Look at the transaction taking place. The guy (tialicbannaa w/e) backed out at the last minute from a cash trade. Switched to a EMT deal. He's a newbie with 1 heatware. Ya I would be a bit skeptical myself. Id prefer cash if it was a local deal. Would only do an emt trade if the person sent the item first or... is a reliable trader.

Also you said he's always willing to pay first. Well not this time, it appears he backed out from paying first (in cash) and wanted to pay after he received the labtop via EMT.

Is he a scammer? I don't know, maybe/maybe not. But still, you have to take caution or regret your decision for the rest of your life. He could be an honest trader. But still, he has to prove it first.

ticallian

Sep 21st, 2006, 10:47 PM

Also you said he's always willing to pay first. Well not this time, it appears he backed out from paying first (in cash) and wanted to pay after he received the labtop via EMT.

I was gonna make sure he recieves the money before I even get ready to leave. Also who would be stupid enough to send out a laptop and recieve funds after when buyer has even 2 feedbacks. I always deal in cash but this situation was in such a position where I could only offer him EMT.
P.S. My last seller also recieved EMT funds from me and was also suspicious but he never had any problems.

FlintBlade

Sep 21st, 2006, 10:48 PM

I was gonna make sure he recieves the money before I even get ready to leave. Also who would be stupid enough to send out a laptop and recieve funds after when buyer has even 2 feedbacks. I always deal in cash but this situation was in such a position where I could only offer him EMT.
P.S. My last seller also recieved EMT funds from me and was also suspicious but he never had any problems.

Ok, well the OT didn't explain that in the first post. He didn't specify that you were willing to send an EMT first. Which, now that you put into perspective. It makes no sense to me. Why would he assume your scammer if you willing to pay first. Heck, why wouldn't he do the trade if your paying first. He just lost himself a deal.

Edit: There's nothing wrong with EMT. I mean it's like cash. It's an instant money transfer, an irreversible money transfer. This QA guy isn't making any sense :confused:

neo1973

Sep 21st, 2006, 10:49 PM

Well everyone started as a newbie. I wouldn't call any newbie a scammer because of deal fell through. But in the mean time we could never be too careful.

ticallian

Sep 21st, 2006, 11:11 PM

Heck, why wouldn't he do the trade if your paying first. He just lost himself a deal.

Yeh you got that right but im still lost why would he run away and post something about me when I offered him EMT.
Anyways I hope I can still find my self a descent laptop before I head downtown.

avexus

Sep 21st, 2006, 11:11 PM

hey

Im the one that left him feedback on heatware. sold him my ferrari laptop. great dealer. emt me first and come to toronto from niagra to pick it up. one of the best dealers i delt with... NO SCAMMER. so stop bashing him.

qaplmz

Sep 22nd, 2006, 12:02 AM

from what i've heard emts can be sent from hacked emails then the money could be frozen after the hacked victim reports it, you gotta be suspicious especialy in this case, he was sending me pms mentioning he doesnt know much about computers but hes already bought a laptop, why is he buying another? and at the very last minute he mentions he does not have cash, he could have mentioned that before, yesterday i was at niagra falls for fun i IM'd him on msn and left him my number, told him to call me because im in niagra and i could bring the laptop to him, but he never replied or called me, i also asked him for a phone number earlier today and he gave me a 14-digit number :?: :?: im pretty sure niagra has a standard 10 digit number like the rest of ontario.

qviri

Sep 22nd, 2006, 01:17 PM

Memo to everyone involved, it's spelled Niagara.

Also yes, Niagara is within the 905/289 overlay.

outlaw307

Sep 24th, 2006, 09:13 PM

this guy is a scammer. i have a reliable source, he sends u EMT's that are hacked from other peoples accounts and wants to come get the good the same day. than when u realize the funds are frozen he has your good. im not gonna say where i got this info but this is how we scams you.

sassysue

Sep 24th, 2006, 09:16 PM

When will this scamming ever stop???? can i trust my next door neightbough?? it's so much bullcrap not to even deal anymore because you don't no who you dealing with is this person a scammer or not?

HuSkY

Sep 27th, 2006, 06:29 PM

yeh a suspicious guy...he contacted me yesterday about my laptop for sale, he wanted to EMT me money and pic up the goods...obviously id never give him **** without having that money in cash in my hands...anyways, he just fell of the face of the earth, so i think something didnt work for him...
anyways p3ace, watch out for this guy...heatware username madmanticallian

balou911

Sep 27th, 2006, 06:34 PM

I think EMT is safer than cash.

no worries about counterfeits for both parties.

hybrid.09

Sep 27th, 2006, 06:37 PM

I heard about something like this on HowardForums, it does happen, and it's happened to me.

I don't believe this seller is legit, If you "EMT" means you have money in the bank, why not go to the bank, withdraw and pay in cash, If your still picking up products with stolen money.

Avexus probably got lucky and the money wasn't frozen, but others beware. This kind of buying/selling is very suspicious. Who pays EMT first, then comes pick up the product. 100% sketchy, I would never trust.

Basically he's picking up your stuff for free.

hybrid.09

Sep 27th, 2006, 06:49 PM

Also, one more thing. ticallian, prove to us that the EMT accounts are truely yours, with your name, address and phone number, If you fail to prove it, or give an excuse like "it's a friends account" we then know that your bs.

But for now, don't deal with ticallian, smells like a lot of trouble. Item wise and bank wise.

Just my .02

bloodwulf

Sep 27th, 2006, 06:54 PM

interesting..

MrHazY

Sep 27th, 2006, 07:22 PM

wth... i just read this thread and realized that this is the guy i'm dealing with too.... he said the exact same thing... from niagara region and he wants to buy my laptop... willing to emt the cash to me first and then pick up the laptop... been trying to get this deal through for a few days now.... lucky it never went through...... i thought it was pretty fishy when i started dealing with him....

hybrid.09

Sep 27th, 2006, 07:42 PM

Don't do it, you'll lose your laptop. Money will be reversed in few feeks and boom, he'll be scamming more people on more accounts, he probably has tonnes, check IP :)

Haz

Sep 27th, 2006, 08:01 PM

Here I thought EMT was safe as long as I confirm the e-mail and direct it to my bank. If I ship out, it's usually paid through EMT... :|

addicted2it

Sep 27th, 2006, 08:07 PM

Here I thought EMT was safe as long as I confirm the e-mail and direct it to my bank. If I ship out, it's usually paid through EMT... :|

Wow...i thought the same too...The few items that i have sold or bought i have only used EMT as the method of payment. did one just last night.....once the payment is in my bank how can it ever be reversed :confused: :(

sassysue

Sep 28th, 2006, 02:28 PM

i'm selling my laptop on ebay weird got an email from this person here it is let's start off with the 1st email i got from him

i'm intrested in your laptop on ebay

hey richard,thanks for the mail and concern.i m on msn on regina_kelvins@hotmail.com i have added you i m really intrested in this to buy for my boss who as just been promoted at work and transfered to a knew location..i will like to buy this laptop for him i wish to buy him much things with the little i m having with me i dont no if you have any phone to sell i want to buy him a great thing such as phone laptop and a psp game but let me no ther stuff you are having presentely..okay

thanks for the mail....i will be buying this i sent you a mail on the cost to include the shipping cost to west africa i really want to buy this this is deal okay .just try and contact me with the cost to him via ups courier

regrds

now are we dealing with a scam now? i think we are africa mmmm tell me what you think should i not deal with it?

Richard!

qviri

Sep 28th, 2006, 02:48 PM

Of course that's a scam. Don't even bother replying to that email, and if you can report the user to ebay for trying to complete the transaction outside of ebay's system, that's even better.

Quan

Sep 28th, 2006, 02:53 PM

This same idiot tried to get me to sell my Laptop for Half cash half EMT, and his "cousin" comes picks it up. He said he would lvoe to come to Toronto to get it but can't, i offered to delivered and he stopped responding.

He kept insisting on EMTing, said it's safer then cash. I told him to learn to read, CASH ONLY.

OP i suggest you put his name on your Title so people know not to deal with this idiot.

His MSN is: raekwon_1@hotmail.com

sassysue

Sep 28th, 2006, 02:53 PM

Of course that's a scam. Don't even bother replying to that email, and if you can report the user to ebay for trying to complete the transaction outside of ebay's system, that's even better.

This is very bad i asked for proof first to proof it's him nothing else he contacted me threw msn i can get his username i asked for it never replied back sinse!!!

Richard!

.EE.

Sep 29th, 2006, 11:37 AM

I, like some others, thought EMT was safe until I read this thread. This "ticallian" guy also contacted me for my LCD TV...msg sounded fishy to me.

Now my question to those people who say they would only take cash over EMT: what about the possibility of receiving counterfeit bills?

I'm not sure if there is already one, but there should be a sticky in this forum dedicated to current methods of scams - would be greatly helpful!!

uberhazard

Sep 29th, 2006, 11:59 AM

notice how ticallian stopped replying to this thread LMAO!!!!

everyone should deal with cash, and be equipeed with county scanners,

btw where can I get one? (scanner)

Haz

Sep 29th, 2006, 12:30 PM

notice how ticallian stopped replying to this thread LMAO!!!!

everyone should deal with cash, and be equipeed with county scanners,

btw where can I get one? (scanner)It's just black light, isn't it? I've got a black lit bulb but that doesn't make it very portable. :|

Googled this one. (http://www.thingsyouneverknew.com/website/store/product_detail.asp?UID=&keyword=&cat_keyword=&item_no=23626)

Or this one on Amazon US. (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_k/104-1637543-8953523?url=search-alias%3Dgarden&field-keywords=black+light&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go) Can't find any on the Canadian site.

ticallian

Sep 29th, 2006, 03:27 PM

LOL. First of all before anything can I ask ask whom have I scammed intil this time? I dont even know where this topic is going to. Anyways if I have done any wrong with anyone pls come out and say it. For all I know is iv been looking a good deal on a laptop for my self for college and if no one wants to deal with me thats fine. I personally do prefer cash until my brother told me about EMT and I felt comfortable using it.

P.S. I' havent gotten the time to log on therefor i didnt know this thread was beeing taken to a different topic now that I have read this I think we need to differentiate me from some scammer.
By the way this QP guy has been suspicious with me from begining i dont know why he has to pick on me for god sake i would of dealt with u with cash if u were really in niagra and willing to come down.

Rocko

Sep 29th, 2006, 03:51 PM

i thought that once money was in your bank it was yours and couldnt be reversed. thats why some buyers payed by EMT but couldn't get their money back when seller scammed them and shipped nothing. scary :S

ticallian

Sep 29th, 2006, 04:00 PM

yeh exactly and my brother never had any complaints with emt who has been a seller and a buyer for more longer than I have. To MODS u should of closed this topic a while ago cause this is not fair I an innocent until proven guilty and would like some human rights here. I don't even know why my name is on the topic. pls close this thread.
THNX

mcg

Sep 29th, 2006, 04:07 PM

For the buyer here: Sellers do have the right to withdraw from deals from users who they believe cannot be trusted. From reading the first page, you only have 1 heatware feedback which does not justify all that much. Perhaps a lengthier history of successful deals would reassure the seller you are dealing with.

There are many users that build up feedback on forums, do a huge deal with another user, and just run away forever.

As for the seller: I personally would not deal money over online means with a user that has insufficient reliability (via. feedback, support). It's better to stay safe than sorry.

Although the seller may be legit but misinterpreted, nobody knows what will happen.

Dragonfly

Sep 29th, 2006, 04:11 PM

ticallian..not assuming you a scammer..but if you want to stick around here , I think you should explain yourself a bit better to build up your credit...help people here to trust you....

several people here saying that you always prefer EMT and at the same time you or your cousin can go to pick up the item in person. It is a little strange, because if you manage to pick up the item in person, why not paying cash if the seller prefer a cash trade? I don't understand..

also, you mentioned that you were in a situation where you can only EMT (but pick up item in person) can you explain what exactly the situation is?

btw, you have not scammed anyone here yet, doesn't really mean that you are not a scammer

ticallian

Sep 29th, 2006, 04:22 PM

First of all I don't drive and second of all If I can come down and deal in person I would deal in cash no doubt whats so ever but since my cousin is the closest to me who is in toronto and comes to my house alot and is a reliable person to deal with. So I suggest meeting with him and save a bit on the shipping and can see the laptop for me instead of recieving something im not satisfied with and then ship it back and im not happy with the concept of shipping and recieiving. I don't even use the board that often only when I need something and now that this qpalm has shitted on this thread I think im gonna have to deal in cash next time.
Pleas close thread

Spongemike

Sep 29th, 2006, 04:27 PM

I have dealt with many online trancscations on other sites. So here is my little comment and advice.

U didn't scam anyone yet coz no one went made a sale with u yet. Some ppl here is right if u can pick it up in person or ur cousin can come and pick up the item y not pay with cash? U can just give the money to ur cousin. Also note aobut the fake money part. When I am doing buying something I always to go banks and get money and tell the teller I want the new type of bills since is a lot harder to produce fake bills like that. Also when I am selling sth over $100 I always ask the buyer if he could get me the newer type of bill as well. This way both party feels safer and is less hassle.

EMT I never deal with them since if the money is from a scam account the bank have to right to reverse the funds or if the buyer cancel the transcation then the bank will also reverse the transcation.

Also for anything I sell that's over $200 I always meet in a busy or clear place(malls, inside a library, school, university........) and take pictures of the items, recepit of the item, any serial No. of the items b4 hand in case the buyer try to run I still have prove that the item is my and is such a busy place it is easier to catch them if they try to run away. Just my 2cent though.

ticallian

Sep 29th, 2006, 04:40 PM

Quan

Sep 29th, 2006, 05:03 PM

Ofcourse I would get my cousin to bring cash with him Duh. But when my cousin banks with HSBC and PC and they don't accept EMT for his account am I suppose get my cousin to go and open another bank account just for me so I can buy a lousy item on the board and deal with it in cash? I'd rather go and deal with someone locally with cash then go thru the hassle. Anyways I was told EMT is reliable and was a subsitute for a payment system and was comfortable with it. I really don't care anymore and would like this thread closed now pls. thnx

I'm willing to drive down to Niagra to deliver my notebook, i offered that and never heard from you since.

If you claim your cousin visits you alot, wmy not giv ehim the money so he can do the transaction for you instead of EMTing then having the item picked up?

Remeber you also told me that your cousin can only withdraw half ammount in one day, i told u to let him wait another day so he can withdraw the other half to pay in cash and you also refused to do that.

Me and the OP have both offered to drive down to Niagra but you always somehow weasel your way out.

Even if your not a scammer you sure aren't doing a good job of convincing people on here. My option is still open, i can meet in person, i'm not doing EMT.

EMTs CAN be reversed IF the account was hacked and funds were transmitted. Unless you withdraw it right away there's always the chance of your bank cancelling the transaction or taking the money back. This type of scam has been reported many times on this forum (iPods were the most popular for EMT scams), and there was also many reports of EMT scams done on E-Bay.

ticallian

Sep 29th, 2006, 05:09 PM

I had a better deal on the go and wanted to save a bit on the deal but u never reduced ur price and I moved on but if i didnt end up buying from someone else I would be fine with you comming to niagra and dropping it off. Now I found a deal localy for a laptop and no more looking for one so ill just deal in person and with cash. Again pls close this thread I have no clue about this scamming BS.

.EE.

Sep 29th, 2006, 05:09 PM

ticallian,

If your cousin is so close to you and visits you in Niagara falls "a lot" like you say, why don't you give him the cash then? That way, when he comes to pick up the item, he can just pay the seller this cash you gave him.

Tetchyy

Sep 29th, 2006, 05:15 PM

beat.dead.horse

.EE.

Sep 29th, 2006, 05:17 PM

Wait a sec...you just stated you already bought a laptop from someone else below...then you say you're going to get one locally with cash...then i see today at 1:14AM you PMed a seller in Toronto for his laptop --> http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345227&page=2&pp=15
I had a better deal on the go and wanted to save a bit on the deal but u never reduced ur price and I moved on but if i didnt end up buying from someone else I would be fine with you comming to niagra and dropping it off. Now I found a deal localy for a laptop and no more looking for one so ill just deal in person and with cash. Again pls close this thread I have no clue about this scamming BS.

sparco

Sep 29th, 2006, 06:24 PM

Rocko

Sep 29th, 2006, 07:16 PM

EMTs CAN be reversed IF the account was hacked and funds were transmitted. Unless you withdraw it right away there's always the chance of your bank cancelling the transaction or taking the money back. This type of scam has been reported many times on this forum (iPods were the most popular for EMT scams), and there was also many reports of EMT scams done on E-Bay.

thats intense! :mad: people could claim their accounts are hacked then get funds reversed =x EMT scary.

OpTiX

Sep 29th, 2006, 07:17 PM

PWNED!

totally lost all hope for your self

hybrid.09

Sep 29th, 2006, 07:20 PM

Rocko

Sep 29th, 2006, 07:23 PM

well, i dont mind with established traders, EMT or COD. i wish i wasn't in WPG b/c not many traders here. and the LOCAL DEALS only has become the NEW HIT thing around here :lol:

Haz

Sep 29th, 2006, 07:24 PM

I can't believe you guys thought EMT was safe. How is it safe? There is always a flaw in everything that is made, EMT has no security (ie. getting scammed) and it can get reversed as easily as frauded/stolen PayPals.Great. I don't trust Paypal and now I can't even be confortable with EMT. May as well go back to using beaver pelts or something.

hardcoredummy

Sep 29th, 2006, 07:32 PM

Well everyone started as a newbie. I wouldn't call any newbie a scammer because of deal fell through. But in the mean time we could never be too careful.

Yeah. I don't see the OT point. If anything, ticallian should be wary, he's the one sending EMT first. That's a nonrefundable transaction.

If you're wary, i can understand that. But there's no need to come here slamming a guy if the deal didn't workout for you.

hybrid.09

Sep 29th, 2006, 08:11 PM

Great. I don't trust Paypal and now I can't even be confortable with EMT. May as well go back to using beaver pelts or something.
You can trust it, just be very careful and watch out who your dealing with.

Better to use credit cards on PayPal rather than bank accounts so it's easier to get your money back If you've been scammed, or always accept Verified accounts with confirmed addresses :)

yoshim

Sep 29th, 2006, 08:23 PM

Direct bank deposit is probably safer than both. I actually prefer bank deposit for all my large sales.

I think EMT is safer than cash.

no worries about counterfeits for both parties.

Coolme

Sep 29th, 2006, 08:49 PM

Yeah. I don't see the OT point. If anything, ticallian should be wary, he's the one sending EMT first. That's a nonrefundable transaction.

If you're wary, i can understand that. But there's no need to come here slamming a guy if the deal didn't workout for you.

"That's a nonrefundable transaction."

Did you actually read the millions of posts before you stating that EMTs CAN BE REVERSED?

Great. I don't trust Paypal and now I can't even be confortable with EMT. May as well go back to using beaver pelts or something.

I can't believe you guys thought EMT was safe. How is it safe? There is always a flaw in everything that is made, EMT has no security (ie. getting scammed) and it can get reversed as easily as frauded/stolen PayPals.

EMTs CAN be reversed IF the account was hacked and funds were transmitted. Unless you withdraw it right away there's always the chance of your bank cancelling the transaction or taking the money back. This type of scam has been reported many times on this forum (iPods were the most popular for EMT scams), and there was also many reports of EMT scams done on E-Bay.

thats intense! people could claim their accounts are hacked then get funds reversed =x EMT scary.

HuSkY

Sep 29th, 2006, 10:04 PM

yeh man honestly i dont worry about EMT...all i know is, i will never give someone somethin before i have cash in my hand...if its EMT ill go cash it then ill make the transaction...yeh maybe i should be a bit warry, but ill be warry of anythin...regardless...cash=u get ur ****;p
thats my quote btw...

hybrid.09

Sep 29th, 2006, 10:11 PM

Direct bank deposit is probably safer than both. I actually prefer bank deposit for all my large sales.
You are very right, because that way, it's the owner of the account sending money to your account, face to face with the bank, not cowardly online ****ing with innocent hard working people.

Shame to this dumbass moron ticaliian.

goat

Dec 27th, 2006, 03:17 PM

hmm
and here i was thinking EMT was safe (obviously there are ways around it, as nothing is fullproof, but i thought this was relatively safe).

I just want to say Bank transfers (wire transfers) aren't safe either
i've been scammed for ~2000 through a wire transfer
cause they close the account and run.

if you prefer receiving bank transfers, that's your own forte.

I just want to say one thing

nobody has PROOF of this guy being a scammer yet.
Everybody can be weary, but I'm always weary with dealing with people if its not face to face (even if they have good feedback).
So to flat out call him a scammer isn't right. to warn everybody is fine. I think if anybody chooses to deal with this guy
make it face to face
at a bank
cash only.

Verify the bills are real right there
give him the product
and be gone.

my $0.05

van

Dec 31st, 2006, 02:45 PM

I think EMT is safer than cash.

no worries about counterfeits for both parties.

Actually EMT's can be hacked quite easily. Keyloggers, trojans that record your keystrokes are everywhere. Public access computer terminals, college campus computers, cafe's, mabey even on your own computer and you may not even know it. And there is always someone doing thier online banking on one these keylogged infected computers, and not all Anti-virus software can pick them up. Infact, someone on here has been scammed a while back with an EMT that was rejected. CertaPay has initiated some countermeasures to help prevent it, but it's no where near 100% safe. It's even worse with PayPal.