BB: Westinghouse 32" LCD TV $799

[psychoPat]

It's on the 1st page of this week's flyer... what's strange though is that when i try to get more info i get a "We are unable to locate this product in our database" error or even adding to my cart i get a "Products in your basket were deleted because they don't exist in this store" error.
WebStore ID is : 10075254

Guess we'll have to call instore to inquire... but still, at $799, it's the cheapest 32" LCD that i've seen so far...

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3563/bbuy02b0101091506p1p241000010001gh2.jpg

[Mystix]

Is it a good lcd though? I got a prima tv, maybe i should exchange

[psychoPat]

Is it a good lcd though? I got a prima tv, maybe i should exchange

Well, based on the pictures, it's seems to be a Westinghouse LTV-32w1 & specs can be found on westinghousedigital.com : here (http://www.westinghousedigital.com/pc-15-2-32-lcd-tv.aspx)

http://www.westinghousedigital.com/images/product/medium/15_1_.jpg

[twopointfivebar]

whats the warranty on this thing?

[yuprules]

on the front page of http://www.bestbuy.ca if you click on the "1" on the tv flash animation, it's there also...but the same error occurs when you click on it.

[psychoPat]

whats the warranty on this thing?

Well... it should be at least 1 yr. but you can always take BB's extended ones...

[BoxsterS]

Shocking that there isn't more chatter about this great LCD TV. 32" Westinghouse for $799. This is a great deal. What's everyone waiting for? Boxing day? :)

[CompuNurd]

If you put a Prima and Westinghouse side by side, you'd probably take the Prima any day, handsdown. Check out the resolution on Westinghouse...my 15yr old 27" JVC that I gave to my brother has a better picture than this crap. You'll pay for what you get though. I'd avoid Westinghouse at all costs, unless your eyes like the overall image.

Wait for a Prima to go on sale, you'll thank me.

[spider]

Hold on i think this Westinghouse has the same panel as the great daytek 32 " that they sold at costco. This should have a fantastic picture.

[Evil Techie]

link is up at a proper $799
http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS10075254&catid=23244&logon=&langid=EN

does anyone know the native res for this panel?

[hagbard]

Check around, not one of their better 32" models.

[Evil Techie]

ooops didnt see the post b4

heres the spec
32" LCD TV
LTV-32w1

Big and beautiful, the Westinghouse 32" HD-ready LCD TV lets you experience the latest in digital entertainment. A huge, super-bright HD-ready widescreen display provides vivid and lifelike images. The stylishly thin, wall-mountable and frame-ready* design complements any décor.

Display Specifications

Viewable Screen Size



32" Diagonal
16:9 Aspect ratio

Native/Optimum Resolution



1366 x 768
16.7 Million colors

Compatible Modes

NTSC
HD Ready
PC



480i
480p, 720p, 1080i
640 x 480, 800 x 600, 1024 x 768
1280 x 720, 1366 x 768

Contrast Ratio



1000:1

Brightness



550 cd/m2

Color Gamut



75%

Lamp Life



60,000 Hrs

Viewing Angle



170° Horizontal
170° Vertical

Response Time



8 ms


TV Features

Audio



2-9 watt speakers

Tuner



1 Cable-ready NTSC

Video Processing



DCDi by Faroudja®, TrueLife™ Video Enhancement, 3D dynamic image processing with digital comb filter, Low-angle interpolation, Edge enhancement without CRT-legacy velocity modulation, Digital color transient improvement, Dynamic noise reduction, 3D-de-interlacing and progressive scan conversion, 3D digital upscaling (often beyond HD resolution), Consistently high digital resolution over the total life of product, Flicker-free without accelerating aging, Adjustable backlight for ambient lighting & power savings, Inverse 3:2 pulldown, PIP, Auto Programming, SAP/MTS, V-Chip, Closed Caption

Physical Dimensions



25.5"H x 31.3"W x 8"D (with Base)
34 lbs (with Base)
23.5"H x 31.3"W x 3.8"D (w/o Base)
30 lbs (w/o Base)

Connectors



2 Composite In, S-Video In, 2 YPbPr, RGB/VGA/PC Video In, DVI-HDCP, Audio out (dual RCA), 5 Audio in (dual RCA), Antenna-in, Power-in

Cabinet Color



Silver

Installation Options



8 hole 75 and 100mm VESA® pattern wall mounts

Specifications subject to change without notice

[hardcoredummy]

If you put a Prima and Westinghouse side by side, you'd probably take the Prima any day, handsdown. Check out the resolution on Westinghouse...my 15yr old 27" JVC that I gave to my brother has a better picture than this crap. You'll pay for what you get though. I'd avoid Westinghouse at all costs, unless your eyes like the overall image.

Wait for a Prima to go on sale, you'll thank me.

I'll prefer the Westinghouse hands down.

[szw]

his is a great deal. What's everyone waiting for? Boxing day? :)

I know I am!

[Prometheus]

I was at Best Buy around Eaton Center today and they had display models of the Westinghouse 47" LCD and Panasonic Plamas (40+") side by side.

I was pretty shocked but the Panasonic's image was far superior to the Westinghouse image. The Panasonic was around $800 more expensive but the image was ridicously sharper and colors were much more vibrant.

Maybe BestBuy messed up the settings for the Westinghouse LCD? It really made the Westinghouse model look bad...

Any thoughts?

[mrG]

I just know that there are a ton of American forums that just rave about the Westinghouse TVs. A lot of people even hook them up as their monitors because they're so sharp.

But.. I don't have one, so I really don't know.

[lapopal]

I was at Best Buy around Eaton Center today and they had display models of the Westinghouse 47" LCD and Panasonic Plamas (40+") side by side.

I was pretty shocked but the Panasonic's image was far superior to the Westinghouse image. The Panasonic was around $800 more expensive but the image was ridicously sharper and colors were much more vibrant.

Maybe BestBuy messed up the settings for the Westinghouse LCD? It really made the Westinghouse model look bad...

Any thoughts?

You are comparing an LCD to a Plasma in different sizes....

I could also compare an Escalade to a Hyndai but would that make sence to you?

I think the deal at costco is better considering it has a built in tuner. This is decent price imo.

[BoxsterS]

I was at Best Buy around Eaton Center today and they had display models of the Westinghouse 47" LCD and Panasonic Plamas (40+") side by side.

I was pretty shocked but the Panasonic's image was far superior to the Westinghouse image. The Panasonic was around $800 more expensive but the image was ridicously sharper and colors were much more vibrant.

Maybe BestBuy messed up the settings for the Westinghouse LCD? It really made the Westinghouse model look bad...

Any thoughts?

If people purchased LCD's based soley on the low quality feed (and then split 50 times) provided by BB or FS, they would still be buying CRT's.

[BoxsterS]

I just know that there are a ton of American forums that just rave about the Westinghouse TVs. A lot of people even hook them up as their monitors because they're so sharp.

But.. I don't have one, so I really don't know.

There are quite a few people on the AVS forums that love this LCD. $800 isn't too bad.

[vaderschariot]

For the price you cannot beat it. The westinghouse 37" cost double at BB. They said they were selling under cost on these tv's.

[direct-x]

What is BestBuy's return policy like? Can I bring this back to the store if I am not satisfied although it was purchased online?

Read some reviews on it, all seem favorable.

[boo4842]

I went to best buy to check out the TV after work today, with no intention of buying it, and I liked it so much in store - I picked it up immediately, even if I have to return it I was going to try it out.

I have to say the picture quality is great on my PS2, Gamecube and HTPC. The cable signal is so-so, but that is to be expected. The resolution is much better for my HTPC than my old CRT, I can read all the text sharp and can use MSN from my couch (with the $25 optical keyboard combo at BB)

I 'intended' on returning this TV when I bought it - but I am probably going to keep it, as I am so impressed at this price

and that really is the key. You would easily pay double the price to find anything that excedes this unit. I would take 2 of these screens over 1 panisonic or sharp any day.

The remote sucks, but since I use my harmony 880 - the remote will just sit in a drawer somewhere

The amount of inputs are amazing too - DVI and HCP and VGA, compnent, s-video all for under $800 - no complaints here

[audit13]

My friend and I read good things about the Westinghouse LCD TVs so my friend decided to go with the 37" model.The picture looks really nice. My friend and I looked at all of the 37" models at BB before getting the Westinghouse. It also came with a Yamaha surround sound system and 6 months of Rogers HD for free. The Yamaha system is okay but not great.

[SuSHi]

are the 32" out of stock yet online? they have a guarantee to be in stock if not they'll knock $50 off and ship it free

[direct-x]

Anyone got any digital dollar coupon codes?

[hagbard]

I'd hold off for a 37" or larger model, and not one of their W1 models either.

[ScoFF]

I'm waiting for the 37" or 42" 1080P Westinghouse's for a good price. If the 42" sells for 1599 I'll get it, if the 37" is for ~1299 I'll get that one. I'd like to have some built in tuners but I don't think they make them in 1080P, or bestbuy isn't selling them. Just the monitor series.

Westinghouse's are great looking. They always impress me in the stores. And the input options are great.

[cy]

Just wondering, wouldn't the $899 deal at Staples for the viewsonic be a better deal for $100 more?

[Cisco KId]

Just wondering, wouldn't the $899 deal at Staples for the viewsonic be a better deal for $100 more?

no this is a good deal unless you can use coupons to bring the price down, but personally I would strongly consider the Viewsonic at Costcio for a tad more. At 800 this is a deal. The unit is pretty solid

[exo123]

Office Depot will have a Soyo 32" LCD on sale for $749 Sep. 21-23
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=340962

Don't know how it compares.

[bug]

are the 32" out of stock yet online? they have a guarantee to be in stock if not they'll knock $50 off and ship it free
http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS10075254&catid=23244&logon=&langid=EN
in stock

[garks]

does this tv have any hdmi port(s)? or even dvi?

[vaderschariot]

it has DVI........you can buy cable converts HDMI to DVI

[Vinman]

I was going to buy this ASAP on Friday morning, but I noticed it doesn't have HDMI inputs, so basically you're screwing around with adapters and other BS.

Not for me, as I'd rather spend $100 more and get all the fixings.

[Jon Lai]

I was going to buy this ASAP on Friday morning, but I noticed it doesn't have HDMI inputs, so basically you're screwing around with adapters and other BS.

Not for me, as I'd rather spend $100 more and get all the fixings.

Good luck finding a good quality 32" LCD for $899 then :P

[garks]

after reading on the avs forums

people are having problems with the component inputs (the screen flashes when playing games every 2-5mins)
the remote that comes with it sucks (get an harmony remote)
and on dark screens, the 4 corners have a bleeding problem

other than that everyone seems to love this tv
i think im going to pick this tv up, if anything i can return it lol

ps: if your going to play 360 on this, get a vga cable

[Vinman]

Good luck finding a good quality 32" LCD for $899 then :P

Good luck with those HDMI adapters, Clyde. :lol:

[Geologic]

after reading on the avs forums

people are having problems with the component inputs (the screen flashes when playing games every 2-5mins)
the remote that comes with it sucks (get an harmony remote)
and on dark screens, the 4 corners have a bleeding problem

other than that everyone seems to love this tv
i think im going to pick this tv up, if anything i can return it lol

ps: if your going to play 360 on this, get a vga cable

How many ppl are actually having the screen flash when they use component inputs?

Cause.. all my stuff is component. :|

[AzNCrAzYcOoLeR]

Just wondering, wouldn't the $899 deal at Staples for the viewsonic be a better deal for $100 more?


Stay away from the viewsonic. I've had experience where the display will actually HANG and the buttons become irresponsive. Had this happen from experience where the power button would not turn off the unit. Happened Twice, and had to pull the plug from the wall .

[garks]

How many ppl are actually having the screen flash when they use component inputs?

Cause.. all my stuff is component. :|
it seem like quite a few people
but it was only happened when playing games apparently (ps2,gcn,360)
and it was fine for watching movies (even though they were still running through a ps2 or 360

[twopointfivebar]

This is a great TV!!! I just bought it yesterday, and it's amazing! Compared to the Viewsonic 3251 at Costco, this is better. The colors are not washed, and the quality of the materials are superb!

Who cares about HDMI? I would'nt pay $100 for HDMI, HDMI is just an idiot proof cabling system. And why would I care about sending the audio to the TV in a digital format when TV speakers are usually 2x10watts? Doesnt make a difference.

It has DVI, and DVI is more than enough. It also has 2 sets of component inputs versus Viewsonic's 1.

You can adjust the backlight, and everything.

[Fantaz]

How many ppl are actually having the screen flash when they use component inputs?

Cause.. all my stuff is component. :|

I've heard the screen flashes using component with all Westinghouse monitors, even the 42".

[Geologic]

I've heard the screen flashes using component with all Westinghouse monitors, even the 42".

damn!.. I was about to buy it on Sunday too.

I use component video cables for both my 360 and home theatre.

[twopointfivebar]

I've heard the screen flashes using component with all Westinghouse monitors, even the 42".

screen flashing? what do you mean? i'm using component for dvd, and it looks great.

[Azenha]

Westinghouse LTV-32w1
PCmag REVIEW DATE: 02.14.06
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1926609,00.asp

User Manual
http://www.westinghousedigital.com/support/downloads/uMan/27w2-32w1uMan.pdf

[AEmgee]

How does SD analog look on this TV? I have an 60" A2000 SXRD for regular use, and need a second wall-mountable TV to watch about 30 minutes of TV daily. The SXRD displays SD digital pretty poorly - as would be expected.

[beesknees]

I've got this model - bought it around 2 weeks ago (just popped into bb to get money back today. No issues!).

The display is pretty good - I don't have any "flashing" or backlight hotspots on the screen.

I've come across a situation when viewing interlaced video (480i or 1080i, etc), the video can lag behind the audio due to the dcdi attempting to fix the image. Evidentially this is a known issue with all dcdi stuff, and on the higher end lcd tvs that use it, some offer a way of turning it off (ie: no lag).

The SD/tv source is average. I got the rogers HD box, and it's got a better converter in it, and that goes via component to the tv. I just use the tv tuner in the tv for PIP.

The remote is crap - get a harmony or something.

The dvi port supports HDCP (v1.1 i think), so you should be good with a hdmi to dvi, but realistically I just use the 2 component inputs (HD box + DVD), and it looks good.

Basically the display is good value for the $799. If you really want extra features, spend the $1500 and get a panny or samsung for the better system.

[gmc]

anyone else have flashing problems when playing games?

[lhsonic]

Is it a good lcd though? I got a prima tv, maybe i should exchange

From what I've personally seen out of Prima's and what I've heard about Westinhouse. I think you should exchnage.... :)

[Vinman]

Who cares about HDMI? I would'nt pay $100 for HDMI, HDMI is just an idiot proof cabling system.

It's a little more than that, and is the NEW STANDARD for all high-end video components. Sure, you can use spazzy adaptors and extra cables, and add another link to the video signal, while hoping that pure HDMI copy protection doesn't get enacted, but I'd rather pay extra to not even worry about it.

I'm also not cutting down the TV, but it seems that these non-HDMI HD televisions (like the Digimates) are being discounted like nobody's business, and I haven't felt the need to buy one yet.

[lhsonic]

who cares about HDMI? Well, if you can't afford to buy a nicer newer TV in 3 years time, you should.

With HDCP here and the rest of it just around the corner, you're gonna need HDMI unless you have adapters. HDCP = copyright protection. Without HDMI, you won't see anything on the screen.

[metaphor_]

I saw the TV today at the dundas street BB in Toronto, and had a chance to test its input sources. Excellent picture using the component cable from an HD source. The SD quality was mediocre over the coax/rf jack, which will happen with any larger TV. Viewing angle was good. Brightness is better than my desktop LCD. I was as satisfied with this picture as with any other 30-37" display.

Why didn't I buy one? I'm gambling on either good January prices, or on finding a clearance HD CRT. Still, if I needed a nice picture immediately, this would be my pick.

Good luck!

[twopointfivebar]

who cares about HDMI? Well, if you can't afford to buy a nicer newer TV in 3 years time, you should.

With HDCP here and the rest of it just around the corner, you're gonna need HDMI unless you have adapters. HDCP = copyright protection. Without HDMI, you won't see anything on the screen.

this tv supports HDCP. so another reason why i wouldn't pay that extra $100 for it.

[BoxsterS]

who cares about HDMI? Well, if you can't afford to buy a nicer newer TV in 3 years time, you should.

With HDCP here and the rest of it just around the corner, you're gonna need HDMI unless you have adapters. HDCP = copyright protection. Without HDMI, you won't see anything on the screen.

Courtesy of Wikipedia:

High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) is a form of digital rights management (DRM) developed by the Intel Corporation to control digital audio and video content as it travels across Digital Visual Interface (DVI) or High Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI) connections. The HDCP specification is proprietary and an implementation of HDCP requires a license.


The Westinghouse has a DVI interface so I really think you'll see something from a HDCP compliant source.

[twopointfivebar]

Guys, just to let you know, the Markville and Scarborough town centre locations just ran out of stock. They have a new policy if they dont have it in stock in store, then you get an additional $50 off the lowestest ticketed price = $749.99

[e-man]

The Westinghouse doesn't have a HD tuner in it, whereas the Viewsonic n3252w does. Not sure if it is worth the $90 less you would pay, but something to consider.

[yuprules]

Guys, just to let you know, the Markville and Scarborough town centre locations just ran out of stock. They have a new policy if they dont have it in stock in store, then you get an additional $50 off the lowestest ticketed price = $749.99

Wow they give you $50 off a product they can't sell you!?!? :) Kidding...

So, how does this work, you get it for $50 off...but have to "wait a month for stock"?

[beesknees]

The Westinghouse doesn't have a HD tuner in it, whereas the Viewsonic n3252w does. Not sure if it is worth the $90 less you would pay, but something to consider.

OTA (over the air) here in Toronto generally sucks unless you're lucky to live in a good spot to get US HD feeds. So in reality you'll be using a HD feed from Rogers/Bell/whoever, with some kind of external tuner, so it's a moot point.

[mahjongmaniac]

Wow they give you $50 off a product they can't sell you!?!? :) Kidding...

So, how does this work, you get it for $50 off...but have to "wait a month for stock"?

hm... i'm curious about that new policy too... never heard of it.

what do they give you? a raincheque w/ $50 deducted off the sale price?

[twopointfivebar]

hm... i'm curious about that new policy too... never heard of it.

what do they give you? a raincheque w/ $50 deducted off the sale price?

Its a new policy, it's actually advertised right on their front page.

In-Stock Guarantee only available on LCD & Plasma TVs.

In Store: If the LCD or Plasma TV you were going to purchase is not in stock, receive an immediate $50 discount off the lowest sale price. If the TV is normally delivered, we'll also ship it FREE*.

Online: Place an order for the Out-of-Stock LCD or Plasma TV as normal. After you have received your order confirmation email, call 1-866-BESTBUY to have a customer service representative discount your order by $50 plus an amount equal to the cost of shipping*.

*Discount Does not apply to demo, open box, clearance, special buy, or limited quantity product. Shipping discounts apply to ground shipments only up to a maximum of $85 per order. Online products that have "Quantity Remaining" or "Sold Out" do not qualify for the In Stock Guarantee either in store or online.

I believe they will knock off additional $50, and ship it to you or notify you when it arrives in the store.

[cdndan]

Not exactly sure how it works, but it claims that they'll give you $50 off as well as ship it for free! According to the website my store is OOS I think I may just take advantage of it for $749, all the online reviews I've read our positive, just not sure 32" is big enough for my room....wouldn't mind upgrading my CRT though.

[direct-x]

I noticed starting today Bestbuy has a digital dollar 50$ of 500$ coupon. when I try to add it to this item, it does not work?

Also, I noticed my local bestbuy does not have stock for this TV, should I be able to get an additional 50$ because of their "Guaranteed in stock" policy?

[hoob]

Yes, looks like an additional $50 off today, according to their website. GTA RFDers taking advantage of this deal should all buy it at the same store to induce default on their "Guaranteed in-stock" policy and get another $50 off...

[goob3r]

I noticed starting today Bestbuy has a digital dollar 50$ of 500$ coupon. when I try to add it to this item, it does not work?

Where did you find this coupon?

[bttnat]

Where did you find this coupon?
here http://www.bestbuy.ca/marketing/coupon_sept/en/
Digital Dollar Code $50 off
SEP50OFF551746303818

[goob3r]

here http://www.bestbuy.ca/marketing/coupon_sept/en/
Digital Dollar Code $50 off
SEP50OFF551746303818

Awesome.

For GTA people, as far as I can tell, it is in stock in all stores and online at the moment.

[gflux]

here http://www.bestbuy.ca/marketing/coupon_sept/en/
Digital Dollar Code $50 off
SEP50OFF551746303818

Works for me. :confused:

[direct-x]

works now, I had to remove the express vu promotional item from my cart.

[direct-x]

How would you guys compare this TV as opposed to the 34" advent HDTV (crt) on sale for 649,00 including stand?

http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926HDS0010034996&catid=23239

[sleepyguy]

Boy oh boy... I really hate you guys ;)

Just placed an order after reading over all the reviews... looks like an excellents set for my purposes. Had my eyes set on a 37 or 42inch but at this price and performance it can't be beat. what got me is the excellent black levels all reviewers were talking about. can't wait to pick it up! thanks! -sg

btw $50 off $500 worked!

[ScoFF]

How can I use the $50 digital dollars coupon (online only) and the guaranteed in stock $50 penalty discount together?

[psychoPat]

Boy oh boy... I really hate you guys ;)

Thanks... Hope you like it :)

[sleepyguy]

FYI...

*This promo is available Online Only. This offer is not available in store. Discounts will not be honoured on in store pickup orders.

Shipping is $49.99 so it kills the deal for me... I'm gonna place an instore pick-up anyway (since the coupon takes)... if the coupon fails for instore pickup I'll just cancel it while i'm there since they don't charge until you pickup.

Just a heads up for people to read the fine print. -sg

[pestul]

I just ordered this TV guys. Thanks to the coupon code, the shipping costs were waved basically ($49.99 gone with $50 coupon). My total after taxes was $911.98. The Fiancee is going to KILL me.. but at least I met her demands of getting nothing larger than 32" for the living room. Bummer that the vertical height will be slightly smaller than my 27" tube Toshiba though.

Can't wait to report the details on the TV.

I suppose if she's really upset, I can always return it. :(

[Jon Lai]

* This promo is available Online Only. This offer is not available in store. Discounts will not be honoured on in store pickup orders.

Damn you bb.

[ScoFF]

I also have the 27" Toshiba, it'd hurt to spent $1000 to have no gain in size at all. It'd look great on the xbox 360 though.


I just ordered this TV guys. Thanks to the coupon code, the shipping costs were waved basically ($49.99 gone with $50 coupon). My total after taxes was $911.98. The Fiancee is going to KILL me.. but at least I met her demands of getting nothing larger than 32" for the living room. Bummer that the vertical height will be slightly smaller than my 27" tube Toshiba though.

Can't wait to report the details on the TV.

I suppose if she's really upset, I can always return it. :(

[gflux]

Yah - 32" widescreen is roughly the height of my 26" crt. I'm really tempted by this $750 price tag but I really want a 37". :mad:

[pestul]

I also have the 27" Toshiba, it'd hurt to spent $1000 to have no gain in size at all. It'd look great on the xbox 360 though.
Just did a few measurements with this calculator:

http://www.cavecreations.com/tv2.cgi (awesome tool btw)

and it appears that my 4:3 Toshiba wasn't really maxing a 27" like I know the LCD will (or at least they usually do). I'm probably not even going to notice the difference in SD size when black-barred.

[Geologic]

Looks like it's back in stock at BB @Markville and STC from the online stock indicator. Too bad..

[pestul]

Nice job Best Buy.. verified on Tuesday night and still not shipped. :rolleyes:

Anyone know where BBs warehouses are? I know their HQ appears to be in BC, but goddamn if it's ground shipping from thier I'll probably not have it in Newfoundland until mid October. :P

[chadw01]

I was at BB about 30 minutes ago and had a look at this LCD.. it's very nice for the price.

I have a 50" LCD RPTV, so I wasn't expecting much, but for this low price, it's hard to beat (and definitely better than the Prima brand beside it).

I don't how anyone can say Prima makes quality stuff... their PQ looks horrible in comparison to anything else out there!

[Geologic]

Nice job Best Buy.. verified on Tuesday night and still not shipped. :rolleyes:

Anyone know where BBs warehouses are? I know their HQ appears to be in BC, but goddamn if it's ground shipping from thier I'll probably not have it in Newfoundland until mid October. :P

Maybe they don't have it and they don't want to give you the $50 off with free shipping

[googoo]

Just set this up as a computer monitor, works great, although it'sawefully big.

B

[rfdghost]

Nice job Best Buy.. verified on Tuesday night and still not shipped. :rolleyes:

Anyone know where BBs warehouses are? I know their HQ appears to be in BC, but goddamn if it's ground shipping from thier I'll probably not have it in Newfoundland until mid October. :P

call them up, i had to verify my last order twice before they released it. also i know that they have one warehouse in mississauga, on.

[Geologic]

They seem to be out of stock at Markville/STC again. Although the sales supposedly ends today as listed in the flyer.

[BoxsterS]

I bought it online for $749 and went to BB, for the store pickup, on the 4th day of my 5 day hold and they sold my reserved LCD. They apologized and offered to knock off another $50 in accordance to their LCD in stock policy which knocked the price down to $699. I then asked about the free delivery and offered to pick it up myself for an extra $25 off. I plan to pick it up Monday with a $100 BB gift certificate I bought for $70 so the total cost before tax will be about $594.

[Geologic]

I bought it online for $749 and went to BB, for the store pickup, on the 4th day of my 5 day hold and they sold my reserved LCD. They apologized and offered to knock off another $50 in accordance to their LCD in stock policy which knocked the price down to $699. I then asked about the free delivery and offered to pick it up myself for an extra $25 off. I plan to pick it up Monday with a $100 BB gift certificate I bought for $70 so the total cost before tax will be about $594.

They let you use the $50 off in digital dollars for a store pick up? Fine print says they won't honor the discount for store pick ups.

[BoxsterS]

They let you use the $50 off in digital dollars for a store pick up? Fine print says they won't honor the discount for store pick ups.

They sold my reserved TV and were out of stock, so the store manager and I thought this was an amicable solution for something the store should not have done.

[Geologic]

They sold my reserved TV and were out of stock, so the store manager and I thought this was an amicable solution for something the store should not have done.

Good for you. I ordered it for store pick up 2 separate times in 2 separate locations and both of em got cancelled even though they were both in stock at the time.

[pestul]

Can current owners please post some pictures of the unit running HD Programming/Xbox 360/DVD/SDTV? Perhaps a link to external images.

Thanks in advance.

[Jon Lai]

They let you use the $50 off in digital dollars for a store pick up? Fine print says they won't honor the discount for store pick ups.


Actually I bought a $500+ order from BB and used the coupon and wasn't challenged when I picked up my order. The guy at the pickup just directed me and the order to the cashier, and the cashier just entered the price according to my printout.

[BoxsterS]

I picked it up today and plugged it into my PC for testing. The PQ at 1360x768 is extremely crisp (inlcluding text) and looked as nice as my Samsung LCD. Playing games on it is a blast, but I find that it's just too big to be a day to day PC LCD so off the desk it went. I did a colour test with it and had no dead pixels.

[slicecom]

I picked it up today and plugged it into my PC for testing. The PQ at 1360x768 is extremely crisp (inlcluding text) and looked as nice as my Samsung LCD. Playing games on it is a blast, but I find that it's just too big to be a day to day PC LCD so off the desk it went. I did a colour test with it and had no dead pixels.

Are you people still getting it for $799.99? My local best buy lists it as $949.99!

I LOVE this monitor, just one thing that scares me about it is the lack of HDMI. I know a DVI -> HDMI adapter SHOULD work, but i've heard reports of it not working with sony dvd players due to them being more strict on the HDCP, and considering i plan on hooking up my PS3 that way for blue-ray, it could be a major problem!

[brunes]

Are you people still getting it for $799.99? My local best buy lists it as $949.99!

I LOVE this monitor, just one thing that scares me about it is the lack of HDMI. I know a DVI -> HDMI adapter SHOULD work, but i've heard reports of it not working with sony dvd players due to them being more strict on the HDCP, and considering i plan on hooking up my PS3 that way for blue-ray, it could be a major problem!
HDCP has nothing to do with HDMI, other than the fact that it can flow over it.

HDMI is a cabling standard, nothing more. A HDMIDVI converter will work just fine with this set so long as the DVI port is HDCP capable. According to the Westinghouse site it is so you should not have any problems.

[twopointfivebar]

HDCP has nothing to do with HDMI, other than the fact that it can flow over it.

HDMI is a cabling standard, nothing more. A HDMIDVI converter will work just fine with this set so long as the DVI port is HDCP capable. According to the Westinghouse site it is so you should not have any problems.

I'm having problems with the damn HDMI upconversion.

I've got the Phillips DVP5900 and a Rocketfish HDMI to DVI cable. My Westinghouse is reporting that there's no signal. Anyone know a way around this? The DVD player has the HDMI enabled, and I tried all settings (720p, 1080i etc).

[RavenSpawn]

My father in-law bought one. I haven't really looked at the picture quality but what I don't like about this is that the PIP sucks. He's not into all this home theatre stuff so he only has a cheap vcr and cheap dvd. You can't even use the PIP to view something from the VCR (movie or other channel) if you're watching cable on the main screen. Isn't the basic reason to have PIP is to be able to watch 2 channels at the same time?

[slicecom]

I'm having problems with the damn HDMI upconversion.

I've got the Phillips DVP5900 and a Rocketfish HDMI to DVI cable. My Westinghouse is reporting that there's no signal. Anyone know a way around this? The DVD player has the HDMI enabled, and I tried all settings (720p, 1080i etc).

link (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=526040&page=28&pp=30)

In this (extremly long) thread, the user "twinpeaks" ended up returning the TV and getting a higher up Westinghouse model because this one wouldnt work with his Sony DVD Player through the HDMI -> DVI adapter. He tried everything, but luckily he had an extended warranty from Best Buy and since it did not perform as claimed ("HDCP Compatible" on the box), he forced them to give him a Westinghouse 42w2 which comes with an HDMI input.

[minirx7]

I have owned this TV for months now. And I will give you a low down.

My friends have the Viewsonic 3250, 3260 and other TV's.

First off my friends with VIEWSONIC ended up with a bad powersupply.

I lvoe my westinghouse. ITs been very good, its hooked up to my computer via DVI at 1366x768 as well as my xbox.

SD using the built in tuner is horrible. I guess i need a digital box.

On my comptuer i use a DVB card to run satellite feeds in to "TEST" and HD programs look phenomonal. Regular shows also look excellent via DVB output.

All in all I would buy this TV again at $999 which is what I paid. If it was $799, i would have bought two!!

I use this as my ONLY Monitor for my computer. And it works really well as a computer monitor.

If you have any quesitons about this unit let me know.

[BoxsterS]

My father in-law bought one. I haven't really looked at the picture quality but what I don't like about this is that the PIP sucks. He's not into all this home theatre stuff so he only has a cheap vcr and cheap dvd. You can't even use the PIP to view something from the VCR (movie or other channel) if you're watching cable on the main screen. Isn't the basic reason to have PIP is to be able to watch 2 channels at the same time?

The PIP is only available for the 2 component, VGA and DVI inputs. My Pioneer PVR has component out so I can watch 2 channels at one time with PIP and PBP.

[BoxsterS]

I'm having problems with the damn HDMI upconversion.

I've got the Phillips DVP5900 and a Rocketfish HDMI to DVI cable. My Westinghouse is reporting that there's no signal. Anyone know a way around this? The DVD player has the HDMI enabled, and I tried all settings (720p, 1080i etc).

Philips DVP5900 Review (http://uk.shopping.com/xPR-Philips_PHILIPS_Home_DVD_Player_DVP5900~RD-223928553092)

THE PROBLEMS : Now here is where the unit fails ... and fails big time. The product is flaky at best and let's remember that I've exchanged it 3 times with different manufactured dates ( September 2005, October 2005 and the current unit that I own is November 2005). Let's begin with the HDMI connection. Most of the units that are available for purchase have the softare V2.20 which has two problems, namely that when you use the HDMI connection, the default PCM sound cannot be switched off and when you insert a DVD you will get a error message that tells you that your connected device is not HDCP compliant. Philips has come out with a Firmware Upgrade (the statement is valid as of March 21, 2006 and is available on the website) which will bring your unit to V2.26 and supposedly correct both issues. I have updated the unit and it does indeed correct the HDMI sound issue thus your receiver will be able to reproduce AC3, DTS, etc. Now, on the other hand, the HDCP error does not get corrected, but you just have to press OK and the image is fine. Unfortunately there are side effects to the upgrade. The major one is that if you want to setup your unit to be able to display at 1080i once you have performed the upgrade, you will get an error message and thus will not be able to upscale and unfortunately there is not way to revert back. What I had to do is to return the unit back and exchange it at the store for a new unit (I was still with the 30 day return policy). What you need to do is to setup the display option BEFORE to perform the upgrade. Once you have done so, the upscale will work fine. Another nasty problem is that if you press the DISPLAY button too often, the unit will go on Standby and another problem is that if you let your unit go to the Screen Saver and you come back and press play to resume, the disk will not play anymore. You must press Stop and then play again to resume. Unfortunately Support is not help at all. Other issues are that the unit may freeze while you're FF, for example, and the only way to get out of it is to disconnect it from the power outlet and plug it back in. This is very disappointing that Philips would let a unit like this come out with so many bugs and defects and unfortunately it looks like a trend from Philips in the past couple of years. I truly don't know how long we will see Philips products in America since they have dropped their Kitchen line and have reduced their Electronics drastically. In any case, at the time of writing this evaluation, these were all the problems that I had encountered. We'll see what the future brings.

[BoxsterS]

link (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=526040&page=28&pp=30)

In this (extremly long) thread, the user "twinpeaks" ended up returning the TV and getting a higher up Westinghouse model because this one wouldnt work with his Sony DVD Player through the HDMI -> DVI adapter. He tried everything, but luckily he had an extended warranty from Best Buy and since it did not perform as claimed ("HDCP Compatible" on the box), he forced them to give him a Westinghouse 42w2 which comes with an HDMI input.

He tried everything? Did he try a DVD player that implemented HDCP correctly? HDMI is simply DVI + DRM. The Westinghouse is not the source of the problem, it's the Sony. I'm really not surprised he was having difficulty with a Sony DRM device because, after all, this is Sony and they like to take DRM to a "Whole Notha Level", to quote a Mad TV character. In fact, since this is Sony, they probably implemented their own HDMI specification so that it would only work only on HDMI/DVI equipped Sony TV's.

[BoxsterS]

Are you people still getting it for $799.99? My local best buy lists it as $949.99!

I LOVE this monitor, just one thing that scares me about it is the lack of HDMI. I know a DVI -> HDMI adapter SHOULD work, but i've heard reports of it not working with sony dvd players due to them being more strict on the HDCP, and considering i plan on hooking up my PS3 that way for blue-ray, it could be a major problem!

I don't think playing Blue-Ray movies on the Westinghouse via DVI should be a problem because its DVI port is fully HDCP compliant. If the PS3 implements DHCP correctly then there should be no problem rendering the image.

[twopointfivebar]

thanks BoxsterS! I didnt' realize how many problems the Philips had. I picked it up because for the fact that it was $70 last week. I'm gonna return this unit and pick up another.

Any suggestions? I was thinking about the Toshiba SD4990 w/up-converting feature. It's at FS for $90 (reg. $130) until Thursday only. Or the Samsung HD860 w/up-converting feature as well for $120 (reg. $150).

[vaderschariot]

great info, i love this board

[BoxsterS]

thanks BoxsterS! I didnt' realize how many problems the Philips had. I picked it up because for the fact that it was $70 last week. I'm gonna return this unit and pick up another.

Any suggestions? I was thinking about the Toshiba SD4990 w/up-converting feature. It's at FS for $90 (reg. $130) until Thursday only. Or the Samsung HD860 w/up-converting feature as well for $120 (reg. $150).

I would check out www.avsforums.com before buying another low priced DVD player with upscaling circuitry for the simple fact that you get what you pay for when it comes to DVD players. If there is a low cost DVD player that's great at upconverting standard DVD's to 720p or 1080i then chances are its been identified on the AVS forums.

But, here's the thing, you don't really need to use the HDMI output on your Philips because the component output should produce exactly the same quality image. Just plug in some component cables and you should be set, providing your Philips has component out (and it should otherwise it's junk)

[Cableguy]

Just thought I'd throw my experience in as well. I went in store to buy the unit and ended up paying $749 with the in stock guarantee for LCD TV's. I have it hooked up to a Rogers SA8300 PVR via a 12' Nexxtech HDMI to DVI cable for $69 at The Source . I'm also using the regular cable feed from the Rogers box to a small second tv. With the Rogers Box set for HDMI/DVI output, I receive an error when only my second tv is connected that my tv is not HDCP compliant. As soon as I turn on the Westinghouse, the Rogers box picks up the signal and turns on. Just a confirmation that the Westinghouse tv is HDCP compliant using HDMI to DVI conversion.

I mounted the tv on the wall in the corner of the bedroom which fit perfectly in the tight space due to the speakers placed on the bottom of the tv. The quality of the casing and even the look of the blue/orange power light gives it an impressive feel. The picture quality on the HDTV channels is equally as stunning as my 50" plasma. The comments regarding the black colour is true. Instead of the greyness found in many of the lower end units, the Westinghouse shows more of a darker or true black than other units I've seen in store.

I would never have bought this unit going by the crap SD signal that Best Buy was piping through the tv in store. I took a chance based on the price and reviews and it appears that it was well worth it. I can only comment on the 1080 and 480 pictures coming from the Rogers box and the DVD picture through the component cables. All of them are extremely impressive. Based on my experience trying SD over regular cable on my plasma tv, I wouldn't even consider sending a non digital signal through any lcd/plasma tv. Complete your investment and pick up an HDTV box from your cable or satellite provider.

[BoxsterS]

If the $199 USD add on HD-DVD drive for the 360 doesn't have a HDMI output then how are they going to enforce HDCP compliance on HD-DVD movies? Native 1080p is only possible via the VGA port so does this mean you'll be able to view 1080p native HD-DVD's on the 360 HD-DVD without any HDCP worries? If this is true, then this seems like the best next generation DVD upgrade path. Not to mention one of the cheapest.

[jerryhussain]

If the $199 USD add on HD-DVD drive for the 360 doesn't have a HDMI output then how are they going to enforce HDCP compliance on HD-DVD movies?
Movie studios have postponed the use of ICT for the next 5 years. They may ultimately discard it for something else.

Native 1080p is only possible via the VGA port so does this mean you'll be able to view 1080p native HD-DVD's on the 360 HD-DVD without any HDCP worries?
Yes.

[RavenSpawn]

The PIP is only available for the 2 component, VGA and DVI inputs. My Pioneer PVR has component out so I can watch 2 channels at one time with PIP and PBP.

Yes I had figured that out from looking at the manual but what I meant is you can't watch 2 cable tv channels at the same time with PIP. I believe there shouldn't have been any restrictions on what you can use for PIP. Otherwise it seems to be ok since he hasn't mentioned anything else to me about the unit.

[BoxsterS]

Yes I had figured that out from looking at the manual but what I meant is you can't watch 2 cable tv channels at the same time with PIP. I believe there shouldn't have been any restrictions on what you can use for PIP. Otherwise it seems to be ok since he hasn't mentioned anything else to me about the unit.

Perhaps I should have clarified. My Pioneer PVR has a built in tuner so I can watch 2 cable TV channels at the same time via PIP or PBP because I output via the component. Yes, it would have been nice if the PIP supported the legacy connections, but this is a Hi Def LCD after all.

[slicecom]

The Westinghouse is not the source of the problem, it's the Sony. I'm really not surprised he was having difficulty with a Sony DRM device because, after all, this is Sony and they like to take DRM to a "Whole Notha Level", to quote a Mad TV character. In fact, since this is Sony, they probably implemented their own HDMI specification so that it would only work only on HDMI/DVI equipped Sony TV's.

Yes i understand that and therein lies my concern. Its been reported that many sony dvd players do not work with this tv because they detect a problem with the HDCP when used via the HDMI>DVI adapter. Since the sole reason that i am in the market for an LCD tv right now is to use it with my PS3, obviously this trend would concern me greatly!

[bumbum]

Is it a good lcd though? I got a prima tv, maybe i should exchange

any thoughts of this one vs. the 32" Viewsonic @ Costco? for $849?

[slicecom]

any thoughts of this one vs. the 32" Viewsonic @ Costco? for $849?

Picture quality wise, the westinghouse is better, feature wise, the viewsonic is.

[bumbum]

Picture quality wise, the westinghouse is better, feature wise, the viewsonic is.


hmm.. thnx for the quick reply. gotta go out to buy a 32" for my dad today as a present.

he will only use it to connect his computer to watch downloaded series from bittorents. in this case which u think is good to get?

[slicecom]

hmm.. thnx for the quick reply. gotta go out to buy a 32" for my dad today as a present.

he will only use it to connect his computer to watch downloaded series from bittorents. in this case which u think is good to get?

In that case i'd go with the westinghouse personally. The blacks are much darker and it just has an overall better picture.

[tang-bailey]

Is the sale still on, the website is not showing it for 799$ anymore and the flyer I received said the sale ended on Sept 21?

[BoxsterS]

Yes i understand that and therein lies my concern. Its been reported that many sony dvd players do not work with this tv because they detect a problem with the HDCP when used via the HDMI>DVI adapter. Since the sole reason that i am in the market for an LCD tv right now is to use it with my PS3, obviously this trend would concern me greatly!

The PS3 will ship with HDMI 1.3 so they should have their HDCP issues corrected by then. That said, since the PS3 does have component out, will Sony downsample the output if a Blue Ray movie is played over component?

[BoxsterS]

For those that wanted to see pictures of the TV in use, the folks over at DLTV (Patrick Norton and Robert Heron) are using the Westinghouse 32" LCD as their main monitor in episode 96 and 97.

[coeternity]

damn i missed this deal

[jerryhussain]

That said, since the PS3 does have component out, will Sony downsample the output if a Blue Ray movie is played over component?
Its upto to the descretion of the movie studios and all have come to the agreement that they wont use ICT for the next 5 years.

[quanvon]

pls change title to "dead". Wonder how we get threads moved to "expired deals" section

[twopointfivebar]

I would check out www.avsforums.com before buying another low priced DVD player with upscaling circuitry for the simple fact that you get what you pay for when it comes to DVD players. If there is a low cost DVD player that's great at upconverting standard DVD's to 720p or 1080i then chances are its been identified on the AVS forums.

But, here's the thing, you don't really need to use the HDMI output on your Philips because the component output should produce exactly the same quality image. Just plug in some component cables and you should be set, providing your Philips has component out (and it should otherwise it's junk)

BoxsterS, you are the best.

I visited that forum, and learned alot about the different DVD players and quality differences out there. So I decided to return the Philips, and picked up the Samsung HD860, and man, WHAT A DIFFERENCE in picture quality! The Samsung is waaaaaay better even with normal component, as soon as I switched to HDMI @ 720p, the picture improved SO much.

Amazing forum, thanks again.

[Agent_J]

^^^
the site is actually www.avsforum.com (no s)

pls change title to "dead". Wonder how we get threads moved to "expired deals" section
yes OP plz change title to dead

[Agent_J]

so is this deal still going on or expired?

[Duderstadt]

this deal is alive again, anyone know how this TV compares with the Envision L32W461?

[cdooer]

I just picked this TV up at BB in Ottawa for $699. I was just about to grab one off the shelf when the sales guy announced that it had just been marked down from $799 to $699. Not sure if this is at every location.

[mystery]

this deal is alive again, anyone know how this TV compares with the Envision L32W461?

I compared both in my home, and the Envision is superior. The Westinghouse had noticeable backlight bleed in all four corners, and the sound was inferior through my '3.1' speakers through the headphone jack. The Envision also has noise reduction filters, whereas the Westinghouse does not.