View Full Version : 2007 Acura MDX vs 2007 BMW X5 3.0
aznspddmn
Sep 10th, 2006, 09:22 PM
Which one you prefer... pros and cons for both.
Both of these have been redesigned.
The Acura has 300 horses vs 260 on the x5.
price is about 5-10k apart between the two.
here are pictures for both
http://www.bmw.ca/media_gallery/view.asp?lang=en&gallery=1&subgallery=54&mediatype=&page=1¤titem=1
www.acura.com
click on future cars
I am not interested in any others.
thanx for any input.
WeZt
Sep 10th, 2006, 09:25 PM
based entirely on aesthetics and drive feel......the X5 gets the PT imo.....i obviously haven't driven the new x5 or new mdx....but i've driven the older models...and based on that the X5 was LIGHTYEARS ahead of the MDX in every regard possible......
ES_Revenge
Sep 10th, 2006, 11:41 PM
MDX is not an SUV, it's a minivan-wannabe-SUV LOL. Aside from it's rather ingenious/groundbreaking E-M clutchpacks the MDX has little going for it, IMO. X5 is definitely the better SUV...
Narci
Sep 11th, 2006, 09:24 AM
For what it's worth, a couple of my parents friends who drive and X5 say they are great except it has broken down on them several times within the first year of ownership.
The MDX , Don't know anyone who drives one.
I know you said your not looking at other cars but the Lexus RX, 4 Runner or Pathfinder might be an alternative.
SkiD
Sep 11th, 2006, 09:26 AM
Too bad Honda screwed the pooch on exterior styling on the '07 MDX (not that the X5 will win many beauty contests either) because the interior improvements make it better than the '06.
Personally I would look at the Cadillac SRX, now that it has had a makeover in it's interior for '07.
mau108
Sep 11th, 2006, 09:52 AM
The beemer will get you pu$$y and the mdx will let you store more pu$$y....
which one do you want?
rdx
Sep 11th, 2006, 02:35 PM
For what it's worth, a couple of my parents friends who drive and X5 say they are great except it has broken down on them several times within the first year of ownership.
The MDX , Don't know anyone who drives one.
I know you said your not looking at other cars but the Lexus RX, 4 Runner or Pathfinder might be an alternative.
I guess if you have enough money and time to afford your car be in mechanic shop/dealership multiple times per year, you can pay extra to get the BMW !!!
To me, I don't mind paying more to get a better quality car, but not paying more to get a brand name batch only......... People pay more to get a Lexus instead of Toyota because we know we get more luxury stuff, premium materials, advanced tech, etc. (maybe a bit for the Lexus brand as well). But people paying 10-20 grands more for BMW/Audi to get more trouble than other things. I have heard and seen many BMW/Audi having multiple problems in the 1st couple years of ownership........ :twisted: Simply not acceptable as a car, not even mention as a premium priced car !!!
All their fans can say is "German Engine", but bottomline is that reliability is way more important for a car. German Engine can't help much if the car is with the mechanics most of the time......... If I want to buy a premium car, I would go for Lexus (1st choice), then Acura. Just my 2 cents
johnwayne
Sep 11th, 2006, 03:36 PM
based entirely on aesthetics and drive feel......the X5 gets the PT imo.....i obviously haven't driven the new x5 or new mdx....but i've driven the older models...and based on that the X5 was LIGHTYEARS ahead of the MDX in every regard possible......
explain.
rdx
Sep 11th, 2006, 04:01 PM
MDX has been the best buy in its class since the 1st year it came out !
mlc2000
Sep 11th, 2006, 04:59 PM
The argument that the MDX is an SUV wannabe, it, moot.
Try to find anyone who spends more than $50K on an SUV and then drives through fields, streams, over rocky crests, etc.Exactly. No one does it.
In fact, you'd be hard presssed to find anyone with a lux-SUV who would even drive over a curb.
The closest they come to this is camping, and any old minivan can perform this task just as well.
As far as service goes, BMW is more likely to include free scheduled service.
You'll never see a deal like that at Acura.
rdx
Sep 11th, 2006, 05:10 PM
[QUOTE=mlc2000]The argument that the MDX is an SUV wannabe, it, moot.
Try to find anyone who spends more than $50K on an SUV and then drives through fields, streams, over rocky crests, etc.Exactly. No one does it.
In fact, you'd be hard presssed to find anyone with a lux-SUV who would even drive over a curb.
[QUOTE]
Agree, only the extreme SUV fans want to drive their SUVs to the forrest and mud road to TEST their cars' ability. (maybe they should do what the Jeep commercial shows, "climb" from the bottom of the hill to the top with the SUV :lol: ) If that's the case, maybe they should go for HUMMER.
To me, even those so called REAL SUVs are capable to do extreme offroads (such as Range Rover), it is really not much practical usefulness ! Like you said, go camping maybe the most they use ! Most people want a SUV, to be roomier and higher than regular sedan, but more stylise than a van. People go for Acura, MB or BMW also want luxury as well, don't than they want to go to muddy roads.
Believe or not, on the last rain storm day, I actually saw a guy with a Hummer actually enjoyed going into the flooded road, the deeper it gets, the happier he looks :lol: I am serious !
radeonboy
Sep 11th, 2006, 06:01 PM
the only way to know which one is best is to drive both and see.
mdx has sh-awd now so the 2007 version is way better than previous.
aznspddmn
Sep 11th, 2006, 06:10 PM
Exactly what i am thinking.
Most people want a SUV, to be roomier and higher than regular sedan, but more stylise than a van. People go for Acura, MB or BMW also want luxury as well, don't than they want to go to muddy roads.
johnwayne
Sep 11th, 2006, 09:43 PM
As far as service goes, BMW is more likely to include free scheduled service.
You'll never see a deal like that at Acura.
..and what does this "service" include?
Will it cover my brakes? tires?
What about long term?
mlc2000
Sep 11th, 2006, 11:45 PM
..and what does this "service" include?
Will it cover my brakes? tires?
What about long term?
Don't be ridiculous.
No one's warranty covers tires and brakes.
Except maybe Rolls.
Its scheduled service.
goffeebeans
Sep 12th, 2006, 12:34 AM
Most people want a SUV, to be roomier and higher than regular sedan, but more stylise than a van. People go for Acura, MB or BMW also want luxury as well, don't than they want to go to muddy roads.
lol, exactly why parents went with an suv. Needed a vehicle to occassionally haul stuff around, which isnt possible in a sedan.
For the X3, we've had it for about 3 months and one of the back lights (the ones that turn on when the doors are opened), are out. Hopefully it wont be in the shop much compared to the 5series.
Might also want to consider fuel milage. Previous car was a mb c280 4matic. The price difference in regular and premium gas isnt bad, but the difference between consumption is huge. Note that the x3 has fulltime awd. compared to the c280, we fill almost twice as often. Last trip we took to Elora (about 1 1/2 hrs away), used up $50 in gas. I can see a trip to niagara requiring atleast 2 full fill ups.
Jonavin
Sep 12th, 2006, 12:40 AM
Just drive them both and I'm sure the decision will be very clear. The difference is significant and you will notice, and be surprised. ;)
apvm
Sep 12th, 2006, 09:07 AM
I went thru the same back in 2001, your choice is pretty obvious since back then the MDX is in different price range than the X5. Then I think it was at least 20k apart.
I knew a few family who picked the MDX back then because it was one of the two SUV which can seat 7 (the other was Land Rover) but if that is not a concern (don't know how many seats for 07' X5) and price is not a factor, X5 for sure, it is in a different class.
As for myself, I picked the Infiniti QX4 because it was the only SUV that is made in Japan among my choices back then and X5 was already out of my choices in the 1st round due to it was out of my price range. If I had the cash today I'd seriously consider the Range Rover.
Narci
Sep 12th, 2006, 09:11 AM
Hmm..people say they need an SUV to 'haul stuff around'. What exactly is this stuff? Is it something a minivan can't haul around? My dad was going to get a SUV to 'haul stuff' for his business but decided that minivan had more room, height clearence when loading and better fuel economy.
apvm
Sep 12th, 2006, 09:18 AM
Hmm..people say they need an SUV to 'haul stuff around'. What exactly is this stuff? Is it something a minivan can't haul around? My dad was going to get a SUV to 'haul stuff' for his business but decided that minivan had more room, height clearence when loading and better fuel economy.
I agree, other than a different 'feel', you have to drive one to understand it, a minivan is more practical.
aznspddmn
Sep 12th, 2006, 04:04 PM
I believe they are both 7 seater. folding third row.
I went thru the same back in 2001, your choice is pretty obvious since back then the MDX is in different price range than the X5. Then I think it was at least 20k apart.
I knew a few family who picked the MDX back then because it was one of the two SUV which can seat 7 (the other was Land Rover) but if that is not a concern (don't know how many seats for 07' X5) and price is not a factor, X5 for sure, it is in a different class.
As for myself, I picked the Infiniti QX4 because it was the only SUV that is made in Japan among my choices back then and X5 was already out of my choices in the 1st round due to it was out of my price range. If I had the cash today I'd seriously consider the Range Rover.
sixer
Sep 12th, 2006, 07:34 PM
Acura MDX for sure!
farlen
Sep 13th, 2006, 08:55 AM
Judging from the pictures, I like the X5 a little bit more. But again, there are lot of factors you should consider. Let's assume you can afford both, then you should simply test drive them both. I can quarantee you can make up your mind much easier rather than looking at the pic and decide. :)
from my own experience back in 2001 similar to avpm's, I was debating between MDX and QX4 only. I ended up with QX4 because it is made in Japan, and after I drove it, I like the hangling in QX4 a little more, although I like the MDX interior, which looks more luxury and newer design.
so.... just test drive first!
aznspddmn
Sep 13th, 2006, 10:58 AM
Judging from the pictures, I like the X5 a little bit more. But again, there are lot of factors you should consider. Let's assume you can afford both, then you should simply test drive them both. I can quarantee you can make up your mind much easier rather than looking at the pic and decide. :)
from my own experience back in 2001 similar to avpm's, I was debating between MDX and QX4 only. I ended up with QX4 because it is made in Japan, and after I drove it, I like the hangling in QX4 a little more, although I like the MDX interior, which looks more luxury and newer design.
so.... just test drive first!
I definitely will test drive'em both. Juss wanted to see if there were others who had previous generation and if there were problems with the vehicle.
aznspddmn
Sep 20th, 2006, 07:52 PM
September 26, 2006
There will be a 2007 MDX debut at acura in markham.
Also on october 18 will be the 2007 X5 debut in showroom.
achc
Sep 20th, 2006, 09:53 PM
I haven't sat or drove in the new models of those cars. But the X5 I would say is a better choice. MDX has more HP but what you need is torque. HP gives you mostly top speed. You are not doing 300 km/h in any SUV besides the Porsche Cayenne Turbo S or something like that. BMW might have more stuff to fix as it is a high maintainous car but Acura is getting to be as well. I heard that the old MDX seems to have alot of problems with the mechanical parts. Gearbox die before 100 000km...spring, shocks, everything changed before that, messed. And Honda engines altho good, you need high revs to get the car going vs Euro engines. The feel and comfort also goes with X5 not MDX
Andro
Sep 20th, 2006, 10:04 PM
I went thru the same back in 2001, your choice is pretty obvious since back then the MDX is in different price range than the X5. Then I think it was at least 20k apart.
I knew a few family who picked the MDX back then because it was one of the two SUV which can seat 7 (the other was Land Rover) but if that is not a concern (don't know how many seats for 07' X5) and price is not a factor, X5 for sure, it is in a different class.
As for myself, I picked the Infiniti QX4 because it was the only SUV that is made in Japan among my choices back then and X5 was already out of my choices in the 1st round due to it was out of my price range. If I had the cash today I'd seriously consider the Range Rover.
now they make QX4 in US.......probably only infinity in current line up to be made in US.
Fragle
Sep 21st, 2006, 05:44 PM
Which one you prefer... pros and cons for both.
Both of these have been redesigned.
The Acura has 300 horses vs 260 on the x5.
price is about 5-10k apart between the two.
here are pictures for both
http://www.bmw.ca/media_gallery/view.asp?lang=en&gallery=1&subgallery=54&mediatype=&page=1¤titem=1
www.acura.com
click on future cars
I am not interested in any others.
thanx for any input.
Anytime I am faced with a tough situation such as yours, I like to ask myself "What would baby Jesus do?"
radeonboy
Sep 21st, 2006, 09:13 PM
I haven't sat or drove in the new models of those cars. But the X5 I would say is a better choice. MDX has more HP but what you need is torque. HP gives you mostly top speed. You are not doing 300 km/h in any SUV besides the Porsche Cayenne Turbo S or something like that. BMW might have more stuff to fix as it is a high maintainous car but Acura is getting to be as well. I heard that the old MDX seems to have alot of problems with the mechanical parts. Gearbox die before 100 000km...spring, shocks, everything changed before that, messed. And Honda engines altho good, you need high revs to get the car going vs Euro engines. The feel and comfort also goes with X5 not MDX
You have heard all this? Where from? BMW forums? :confused:
twoods
Dec 5th, 2006, 11:03 PM
I'm thinking of purchasing soon. Anyone have comments on it and how much you were able to negotiate.
Flyhigh
Dec 6th, 2006, 01:31 AM
As a current owner of a 05 MDX, I have no problems up to date with the car, expect minor issues like bass rattles sometimes when very loud. And I also driven the new 07 MDX, but not the X5. I love the MDX for its handling and feel, very agile for a 7-seater. the 07 MDX was awesome in redesign, both exterior and interior. You have to test drive it to really feel how great it is, HUGE improvement from previous year models. The X5 will handle better than the MDX for sure, but once again you are sacrificing alot of things for it. I will outline your choices in detail to give you a better understanding.
07 Acura MDX
-First year redesign, but with Acura's proven excellent reliability record, you won't expect many problems, if any at all
-Resale value will be higher than german makes, Japanese reliability once again
-standard 7-seater, you can seat 6 chicks :D
-Interior is better than the X5 IMHO
-Not a vehicle that is targeted by car thiefs majorly
-fully loaded MDX elite package comes to only about $61,900, biggest bang for your buck
07 BMW X5
-First year redesign, but with BMW's poor reliability record, you can expect many problems with it
-Expect to spend alot of time + money to take it in to service, due to many problems. Also expect to get to know your service guy by his first name!
-Resale value not as good
-The 7-seater is not standard, an option that cost more. Seat 4 chicks as compared to 6 chicks with the MDX :D
-Interior is not as good as the 07 MDX IMHO
-A vehicle that is very popular with car thiefs, I know a lady who got her 04 X5 stolen twice!
-Basic X5 3.0i with no options or anything added comes to $61,900!
Conclusion: Basically it is up to you to determine the pros and cons of each vehicle that I listed, and whether you can live with it or not. Personally I would choose the 07 MDX ^.^
Which one you prefer... pros and cons for both.
Both of these have been redesigned.
The Acura has 300 horses vs 260 on the x5.
price is about 5-10k apart between the two.
here are pictures for both
http://www.bmw.ca/media_gallery/view.asp?lang=en&gallery=1&subgallery=54&mediatype=&page=1¤titem=1
www.acura.com
click on future cars
I am not interested in any others.
thanx for any input.
For your question about the 07 MDX, you can read some of my comments regarding it above, once again I test drove it, absolutely love it, but dad won't let me trade in my 05 MDX :| But it is a lovely vehicle and you get the most bang for your buck! Try shopping around dealers, although you can't get it anywhere near MSRP right now, because of the hype and everyone wants it. Try to negotiate as close to MSRP as possible, and get them to add in some bonuses! good luck!
I'm thinking of purchasing soon. Anyone have comments on it and how much you were able to negotiate.
Ben Jr
Dec 6th, 2006, 08:05 AM
SUV's do have their uses above and beyond what a typical minivan has to offer. But yes, there is a certain 'I will never drive a minivan' factor that guys just won't buy a minivan, I'm included.
I have a XC90 and its great for a trip to the parents cottage towing the boat or hauling a bunch of snowmobiles behind. There were several other reasons for purchasing ours and some are valid over what the minivan has to offer.
aznspddmn
Dec 6th, 2006, 05:29 PM
I agree with you on the new mdx. I test drove it and loved it as well. i've been to several dealerships neogtiating. the amount varied from 3 to about 5% off the purchase price.
I have a friend who works at parkview bmw in the service department. he says the x5's are a nightmare also bmw in general. He says bmw are for the rich who dont care about expensive repair bills. A brake job would cost $3500.
As a current owner of a 05 MDX, I have no problems up to date with the car, expect minor issues like bass rattles sometimes when very loud. And I also driven the new 07 MDX, but not the X5. I love the MDX for its handling and feel, very agile for a 7-seater. the 07 MDX was awesome in redesign, both exterior and interior. You have to test drive it to really feel how great it is, HUGE improvement from previous year models. The X5 will handle better than the MDX for sure, but once again you are sacrificing alot of things for it. I will outline your choices in detail to give you a better understanding.
07 Acura MDX
-First year redesign, but with Acura's proven excellent reliability record, you won't expect many problems, if any at all
-Resale value will be higher than german makes, Japanese reliability once again
-standard 7-seater, you can seat 6 chicks :D
-Interior is better than the X5 IMHO
-Not a vehicle that is targeted by car thiefs majorly
-fully loaded MDX elite package comes to only about $61,900, biggest bang for your buck
07 Acura MDX
-First year redesign, but with BMW's poor reliability record, you can expect many problems with it
-Expect to spend alot of time + money to take it in to service, due to many problems. Also expect to get to know your service guy by his first name!
-Resale value not as good
-The 7-seater is not standard, an option that cost more. Seat 4 chicks as compared to 6 chicks with the MDX :D
-Interior is not as good as the 07 MDX IMHO
-A vehicle that is very popular with car thiefs, I know a lady who got her 04 X5 stolen twice!
-Basic X5 3.0i with no options or anything added comes to $61,900!
Conclusion: Basically it is up to you to determine the pros and cons of each vehicle that I listed, and whether you can live with it or not. Personally I would choose the 07 MDX ^.^
For your question about the 07 MDX, you can read some of my comments regarding it above, once again I test drove it, absolutely love it, but dad won't let me trade in my 05 MDX :| But it is a lovely vehicle and you get the most bang for your buck! Try shopping around dealers, although you can't get it anywhere near MSRP right now, because of the hype and everyone wants it. Try to negotiate as close to MSRP as possible, and get them to add in some bonuses! good luck!
3weddings
Dec 6th, 2006, 05:36 PM
I've owned both and recently gave up my MDX for a minivan (three kids...no choice :mad: )
IF you need the third row, and the MDX was the only 'SUV' (I don't believe it IS one - lol dh referred to is as a MiniVan on Steroids) out there, then go for it. It's is a sturdy ride.
If you want a Euro ride, then stick with those who know who to build one. The X5 is and always will be my fave!!! A lot of my reasoning behind it is the superior service at BMW of Mississauga!!!
That being said, no I have NOT driven the new MDX, but have the X5.
bpopd
Dec 6th, 2006, 05:54 PM
BMW aint that bad
X5 wins outright. X5 has the most rigid chassis I've ever tried.
Its a real truck, that thing wont flip
twoods
Dec 6th, 2006, 07:56 PM
Just wandering if anyone has been able to negotiate prices on the different packages.
Any feedback would be appreaciated.
gilboman
Dec 6th, 2006, 11:08 PM
As a current owner of a 05 MDX, I have no problems up to date with the car, expect minor issues like bass rattles sometimes when very loud. And I also driven the new 07 MDX, but not the X5. I love the MDX for its handling and feel, very agile for a 7-seater. the 07 MDX was awesome in redesign, both exterior and interior. You have to test drive it to really feel how great it is, HUGE improvement from previous year models. The X5 will handle better than the MDX for sure, but once again you are sacrificing alot of things for it. I will outline your choices in detail to give you a better understanding.
07 Acura MDX
-First year redesign, but with Acura's proven excellent reliability record, you won't expect many problems, if any at all
-Resale value will be higher than german makes, Japanese reliability once again
-standard 7-seater, you can seat 6 chicks :D
-Interior is better than the X5 IMHO
-Not a vehicle that is targeted by car thiefs majorly
-fully loaded MDX elite package comes to only about $61,900, biggest bang for your buck
07 BMW X5
-First year redesign, but with BMW's poor reliability record, you can expect many problems with it
-Expect to spend alot of time + money to take it in to service, due to many problems. Also expect to get to know your service guy by his first name!
-Resale value not as good
-The 7-seater is not standard, an option that cost more. Seat 4 chicks as compared to 6 chicks with the MDX :D
-Interior is not as good as the 07 MDX IMHO
-A vehicle that is very popular with car thiefs, I know a lady who got her 04 X5 stolen twice!
-Basic X5 3.0i with no options or anything added comes to $61,900!
Conclusion: Basically it is up to you to determine the pros and cons of each vehicle that I listed, and whether you can live with it or not. Personally I would choose the 07 MDX ^.^
For your question about the 07 MDX, you can read some of my comments regarding it above, once again I test drove it, absolutely love it, but dad won't let me trade in my 05 MDX :| But it is a lovely vehicle and you get the most bang for your buck! Try shopping around dealers, although you can't get it anywhere near MSRP right now, because of the hype and everyone wants it. Try to negotiate as close to MSRP as possible, and get them to add in some bonuses! good luck!
BMW gets amazing resale values and a much better driver's car than any acura.
there's not much of a difference btwn a BMW and Acura's resale.. MB and BMW get very high resale because of the high price of admission for a new car and they are in very high demand.
the mdx is a honda pilot which is a honda oddyssey..nth wrong with that..but a oddyssey or a honda pilot is not even comparable to a X5 for handling, driving dynamics.
the mdx is a tall minivan basically while the X5 is a taller sportsedan
Anessa
Dec 6th, 2006, 11:17 PM
Now it has SH-AWD if that matters to you...
konfusion666
Dec 7th, 2006, 09:10 AM
From everything I've read about MDX ownership experiences on the Canadiandriver forums, people have had an almost uniformly great experience with those vehicles. if reliability and build quality is more important that being a "driver's car" then it's probably a better choice.
radeonboy
Dec 7th, 2006, 09:43 AM
Wow, some people eh? Most of all you guys have based your thoughts soley on opinion. Oh I think the X5 is better, blah, blah blah. WTF have you have driven one or rode in one?
I rode in my relatives X5 and I was very dissapointed. Man the interior was pure plastics. Very little of anything else. Very hard plastics anywhere your eyes are on. Cheap.
The X5 engine is stellar, very strong across the whole powerband. Handling is good too, a little too much body roll for my taste, but still does the job pretty good.
As for the Acura MDX, I haven't driven the new one but have ridden in one. The interior is much better than the X5, very lovely, and it doesn't use as much cheap plastics as the X5 does.
And the new MDX is well improved than the old with the addition of SH-AWD. So I assume that its kickass, and the reliability is always there with the Japanese.
X5 = overated
BD006
Dec 7th, 2006, 12:10 PM
I say this without having driven either, but I'm going based on car reviews/previews.
To me, it's a matter of, does the driving experience matter to you THAT much to you. From what I've read, the MDX is pretty good in terms of handling, but still not quite on par with the X5.
Then comes, well, do you want all the creature comforts without paying through the nose? I think it's pretty clear which car is the better value when it comes to this.
Then you have to take into account the price. What things are more important to you, and are you willing to pay to get them/not get them. Again, if driving experience is the number one factor, then you'll probably be willing to pay the extra for an X5. If you want the better value and overall package, then you may want to go with the MDX.
gilboman
Dec 7th, 2006, 12:21 PM
kind of related..study on buyer retention by brand.
Toyota/Lexus is at top no surprise there. big surprise is how poorly acura/infinti does. 10% and 18% below average respectively
http://www.caranddriver.com/dailyautoinsider/12136/toyota-ranks-highest-in-retaining-new-vehicle-buyers-study-says.html
Flyhigh
Dec 7th, 2006, 02:42 PM
Now you obviously have NO CLUE what you are talking about here, and as people noted, you have not driven one or even rode in one and just giving your opinion. and FYI BMW resale value isn't high like you said, if you look at a 2nd hand 745, you can easily find it for 40,000. compared to over 100,000 you pay for the new car. Resale value high? I don't think so. And the 07 MDX is based on a totally new structure of its own, doesn't share with the honda pilot/odyssey. It handles very well, and in a test they did the 07 MDX beat the porsche cayenne and the X5 3.0 in acceleration. Get your facts straight before you start talking
BMW gets amazing resale values and a much better driver's car than any acura.
there's not much of a difference btwn a BMW and Acura's resale.. MB and BMW get very high resale because of the high price of admission for a new car and they are in very high demand.
the mdx is a honda pilot which is a honda oddyssey..nth wrong with that..but a oddyssey or a honda pilot is not even comparable to a X5 for handling, driving dynamics.
the mdx is a tall minivan basically while the X5 is a taller sportsedan
Flyhigh
Dec 7th, 2006, 02:45 PM
Agreed. X5 interior is cheap and outdated, not acceptable for a car this expensive. The new MDX interior is amazing, and SH-AWD when cornering on highways you will notice the difference.
Wow, some people eh? Most of all you guys have based your thoughts soley on opinion. Oh I think the X5 is better, blah, blah blah. WTF have you have driven one or rode in one?
I rode in my relatives X5 and I was very dissapointed. Man the interior was pure plastics. Very little of anything else. Very hard plastics anywhere your eyes are on. Cheap.
The X5 engine is stellar, very strong across the whole powerband. Handling is good too, a little too much body roll for my taste, but still does the job pretty good.
As for the Acura MDX, I haven't driven the new one but have ridden in one. The interior is much better than the X5, very lovely, and it doesn't use as much cheap plastics as the X5 does.
And the new MDX is well improved than the old with the addition of SH-AWD. So I assume that its kickass, and the reliability is always there with the Japanese.
X5 = overated
bpopd
Dec 7th, 2006, 03:57 PM
hey is the new mdx designed from the ground up as an SUV?
or does it share a chassis like before?
gilboman
Dec 7th, 2006, 07:01 PM
Now you obviously have NO CLUE what you are talking about here, and as people noted, you have not driven one or even rode in one and just giving your opinion. and FYI BMW resale value isn't high like you said, if you look at a 2nd hand 745, you can easily find it for 40,000. compared to over 100,000 you pay for the new car. Resale value high? I don't think so. And the 07 MDX is based on a totally new structure of its own, doesn't share with the honda pilot/odyssey. It handles very well, and in a test they did the 07 MDX beat the porsche cayenne and the X5 3.0 in acceleration. Get your facts straight before you start talking
:lol: :lol: :lol: don't feel butt hurt just because a BMW has higher resale, you didnt choose the better handling suv of the two, that doesnt matter, but deluding yourself into thinking BMW has low resale. come out of your cave much?
2006 Resale Value Leader ... BMW
http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4022645
2005 Resale Value Leader... BMW
http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/03/Autos/tipsandadvice/kbb_resale_value_awards/index.htm
fyi based on kelly bluebook too.
wow..acceleration:lol: :lol: :lol: ... an Acura TL can outaccelerate a BMW 325i too... what does that mean? its a better driving car:lol: :lol: :lol:
and you are talking about no clue...
i am wrong about 07 MDX the same as the oddyssey chassis though...your MDX is the tall minivan :lol:
Anessa
Dec 7th, 2006, 07:50 PM
"Ask Consumer Reports what they think of the X5 and that publication will confirm most of the above: most of the X5's weak points are electrical-related, while serious mechanical failures are less common. There's a fairly lengthy list of recalls for the X5, which can be found at the end of this article."
"what would I tell someone shopping for a used, high-end SUV? I'd tell them that the X5's problems have nothing to do with its driving dynamics - this is a competent vehicle on the road whose biggest drawback is the risk of having to face expensive repairs over the long term. While the X5 wouldn't be my first choice for a used luxury SUV (that title would go to the Lexus RX300/330 or the Acura MDX), I'd recommend looking into one of these Bimmers before considering a Mercedes-Benz M-Class."
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/cc/00-06x5.htm
Looks like the X5 just got torpedoed by Canadian Driver.
Flyhigh
Dec 8th, 2006, 03:00 AM
lol, listen to this guy. We are talking about the X5 and the MDX resale value, not the BMW 5 series resale value as stated in your first link. And the second link is dated Oct 5,2005, why you even putting something up thats more than a year old? You obviously have not driven either the X5 or the MDX, and just like previous posts said before you are just saying your opinion. Do YOU come out of your cave much?
And you said the X5 beats the MDX in handling, once again you have no idea and you said this
"the mdx is a honda pilot which is a honda oddyssey..nth wrong with that..but a oddyssey or a honda pilot is not even comparable to a X5 for handling, driving dynamics."
LOL! Now you are comparing the X5 SUV to a honda pilot and a honda minivan for handling and driving dynamics? So next time I am going to compare a Ferrari to a Honda S2000 and a Toyota minivan and see who has better handling and driving dynamics? please think twice before you say things like this, you will laugh people's heads off. You were also talking about how the X5 outperforms the MDX in handling with no clue on how they even ride? Nowhere in my thread I said the MDX outperforms the X5, I just said the 07 MDX accelerated FASTER than the X5 and the porsche cayenne, not handled better did I? who has no clue? Next time at least drive the cars first, and then come post your comments. Then people will care about your opinions.
And lastly, I never said the 05 MDX wasn't based on the odyssey chasis, I said the 07 MDX was completely new and not based on any vehicles chasis, learn to read, thx.
:lol: :lol: :lol: don't feel butt hurt just because a BMW has higher resale, you didnt choose the better handling suv of the two, that doesnt matter, but deluding yourself into thinking BMW has low resale. come out of your cave much?
2006 Resale Value Leader ... BMW
http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4022645
2005 Resale Value Leader... BMW
http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/03/Autos/tipsandadvice/kbb_resale_value_awards/index.htm
fyi based on kelly bluebook too.
wow..acceleration:lol: :lol: :lol: ... an Acura TL can outaccelerate a BMW 325i too... what does that mean? its a better driving car:lol: :lol: :lol:
and you are talking about no clue...
i am wrong about 07 MDX the same as the oddyssey chassis though...your MDX is the tall minivan :lol:
newbie7
Dec 8th, 2006, 07:02 AM
Hahah this thread has gone so off-track.
Some misinformation here and there - on both sides.
Point is, we don't even know what the buyer's needs are.
Eg. If he's leasing (say for the purpose of tax deduction),
then does resale value matter? Does reliability matter (to
a different extent) matter?
Another eg. What is he using it for, and does he treasure
driving ability at all? What about payload and dimensions?
To one, fitting 2 full mattresses is important; to another,
having a better driving experience is important.
Why debate over something that's not even gonna be useful
to the OP?