parking ticket in York University

[zzhsnoopy]

hey, does anybody have experience of dealing parking tickets in Yorku University.

I heard if your vehicle is not registered with Yorku, they cannot do anything about it besides keeping sending you parking tickets and statement. (coz they will get your address from MTO)

I've accumulated more than $1400. any suggestions? Thx :oops:

[pizzaman]

haha sucker, how did you get in university if you cant even read the parking instructions right?

[zzhsnoopy]

oh well, there are tones of ppl doing the same thing in York U. Besides, there are many places in the university don't have any sign that indicates no parking. I just want to hear other ppl's experience.

You are no help at all...if you don't have any constructive advice, please keep your mouth shut.

[Smith]

Check the tickets, there is a good chance that even though they are issued by the university they are city tickets, & if they are tied into the mto you're f***ed when you go to renew your plates.

Also wondering the same thing as pizzaman . . . how exactly are you smart enough to get into U of T, but dumb enough to run up $1700 in tickets?

[quarterpounder]

I heard that they can prevent the owner of the car from graduating.. my car is "owned" by my mom.. I pay up on my parking tickets though :) just in case

[enforcerviper]

Seriously, $1400 in parking tickets? After the first two did you not inquire about this with your campus?

$1400 is A LOT of parking offenses, and I don't think they will go lightly on a repeat offender if you NEED plea with them. If you could just walk away from York parking tickets I don't think anyone would waste their time buying parking passes.

[zzhsnoopy]

actually, I know my roommate walked away from $2000 parking ticket last year when she graduated. That's why I followed her way. but I like to hear more cases.

Btw, the tickets itself is not related to MTO. My roommate just sold her car last month. No hassle at all.

[tick]

yea...i dont think you have a problem...my friend at york gets parking tickets all the time...the parking enforcement there is a joke...it's like a donation...you can pay but u dont have to :D

[mbg]

oh well, there are tones of ppl doing the same thing in York U. Besides, there are many places in the university don't have any sign that indicates no parking. I just want to hear other ppl's experience.  

You are no help at all...if you don't have any constructive advice, please keep your mouth shut.

But, how DID you get into University?

I don't think you could expect to post a thread on how to murder someone and not get caught without having someone suggest that murder is wrong.

I really don't know how you neutralize something like this to alllow the feeling that you are not supposed to pay for parking tickets. There have been a number of threads like this... this, and speeding tickets.

[gimmegimme]

How can they not have already towed your car away??

I got a parking ticket at my school (McMaster). The car is registered to my mom and those bastards just put the fine on my student account. Don't pay your student account, don't graduate.

[hypertemp]

How the hell do you think he got in to university wise guy?!?
What kind of comment is that? Do you think someone who has accumulated parking tickets and knows of a way to avoid paying is considered too dumb for university?

[mbg]

How the hell do you think he got in to university wise guy?!?
What kind of comment is that?  Do you think someone who has accumulated parking tickets and knows of a way to avoid paying is considered too dumb for university?

University teaches you to work within and recognize the framework of some field.

If you can't work within the framework of the law, you are not getting off to a good start.

University is unwashed now, though... it used to be more discriminating.

[Stalker]

Actually I have run into the same problem while my wife got a parking ticket from York U while attending her part time MBA classes. The car is registered under my name, so after not getting payment, I finally got a notice sent to my home with my name on it obviously. I am curious to see what will happen if I don't pay as I really have no intention to pay. The only thing that might get to me is when I can't renew my sticker from MTO a year and half from now. Other then that, none of that "not be able to graduate" BS scares me as she won't be tied to this ticket, even if they discover our relationship, I can always argue that it was me actually driving the car at the time.

[Yan]

Yeah i got one when i stayed the night there once.....i never payed it, i think they tacked it on to my license renewel.

[Rehan]

i never payed it, i think they tacked it on to my license renewel.
$1400+$60 would be a pretty expensive license renewal! :lol:

[Zippity]

$1400+$60 would be a pretty expensive license renewal! :lol:

I think that I'd be more concerned about the late fee that's incurred 21 days after the ticket is written.

Gimme a minute to check up whether York follows regulations for private property under the Trespass to Property Act, or whether its a municipal parking ticket.

[Zippity]

from CSBO:
The lands and grounds of York University are PRIVATE PROPERTY, and the University reserves the right to control motor vehicle access to and driving on the campus. The University permits parking and driving on campus grounds only upon the terms and conditions set forth in these Regulations. Provincial laws and Municipal by-laws applicable to campus grounds may be invoked by York University at any time for the purpose of preventing unauthorized parking and ensuring access to fire routes.

So, if i interpret this correctly - when they finally do get off their asses and go through unpaid accounts, they have reserved the right (as owners of private property) to either put a liens on the vehicle, charge the owner of the vehicle, or, failing that, charge the owner of the vehicle with Trespassing on Private Property.

Typically, it will be placed on a student's account, depending on the bylaws put forth by the university itself.

[zzhsnoopy]

I am pretty sure it won't affect the plate renewal. The parking ticket is not issued by MTO and it has nothing to do with MTO.

[Agent_J]

bump

what ever happened to you guys with the huge parking fines at York :) ?

[careener]

It will not affect yor plate renewal.

[lunaticcc]

It will not affect yor plate renewal.
^ What he said.
York is private, and they have not trained their officers to give out city tickets (which would really be effective, but of course the fine doesn't go to york then).
When York looks up the plate info and finds out you (the student) are the owner of the car, then (I think) you are bound by any Senate rules, and hence no graduation diploma (Not graduating was a misconception). If not, it's treated as any normal private ticket. They will send notices (and tack on admin charges each month), and I guess eventually hand it over to a collection agency.
By the way, last I heard, about a year ago, the city of toronto banned private ticketing, but many places like York, and Impark refuse to abide to the law(I also heard Impark sued the city for this by-law). The city has stated their actions as illegal. The city asked that any private ticket you recieve be forward it to the police and the companies will be fined for each ticket. I have no idea on the outcome as private companies are still issuing tickets.

[ronny1980]

actually, I know my roommate walked away from $2000 parking ticket last year when she graduated. That's why I followed her way. but I like to hear more cases.

Btw, the tickets itself is not related to MTO. My roommate just sold her car last month. No hassle at all.

Im not sure about York...but this is how it is for Waterloo:

As long as the car is not under your name...and you get ticketed by the UofWaterloo police...you can jus ignore it..

but if you get ticketed too many times they will evetually tow...happened to my friends...

If the car is under your name....they can NOT let you graduate until you have paid it off..

buddy has over 1K in tickets but from the UofWaterloo police...car not under his name.....no problems..renewed license plate..no problems...graduated no problems..

[Nhiem]

Also wondering the same thing as pizzaman . . . how exactly are you smart enough to get into U of T, but dumb enough to run up $1700 in tickets?

Hehe, worry about yourself. He said YorkU(niversity). Not University of Toronto :lol:

[Final Lazy]

At UT, the the enforcer gives out city of Toronto parking tickets. I had to goto city hall to pay mine when I forget to show my parking permit at BCIT. They treat everything so seriously at U of T, but then we are serious students. :razz:

But how much is parking at York? Is it like $900/semester or something? Isn't 900<1400?

Going to U of T, I have learnt that the world functions very systematically. You pay for the parking permits, and the money goes to maintaining the lot and hiring enforcers who are there to keep your car "safe". If everyone doesn't pay, the system break down. I know that University is harsh and a lot of students are pretty poor, but think.

[doraemi]

if you DO wanna pay, go to the William Small Centre to bargain with them

a friend of mine had a $100 which in the end, he paid only $20. Just ask nicely, beg and plea ;)

[DragonZealot]

IIRC if you own the car --> no graduation

If someone else own the care --> one or more of the following
- collection agency
- small claims court
- bad credit history

One day they are going to tow away your car and when you go pick it up they are going to present the $$$ bill to you and your car will stay in the pound till you paid in full.

[lunaticcc]

IIRC if you own the car --> no graduation

You do graduate with a degree. York just won't give you the diploma, allow you to go to your convocation or help you in some administrative matters, but you still graduate.

If someone else own the care --> one or more of the following
- collection agency
- small claims court
- bad credit history

One day they are going to tow away your car and when you go pick it up they are going to present the $$$ bill to you and your car will stay in the pound till you paid in full.
Just to let you know, the towing companies (under a private tow), will tell you they will not release the car until it is payed. This is not true, but they will never tell you this. They will bicker and be stubborn but under a private tow, they have to release your car. Then they go through the same process you mentioned above.

- collection agency
- bad credit history
- small claims court

[HowEver]

There are some parking tickets given at York by parking agents with constabulary powers. These are city tickets. They won't withhold your diploma for these (and this is the same thing as not graduating), but they will make a difference when you go to renew your license.

[McLaren]

I had about 250 dollars worth of parking tickets when i was graduating last fall, and was forced to pay or they wouldn't let me convocate or receive my degree. The car was not even under my name, but they said the owner of the car's address was the same as mine, and the next person to graduate would have to pay it. So i paid the stupid fine.

I hate york.

[HowEver]

Since you sign on to these rules when you agree to go to York, why would anyone sympathize?

How hard is it to park properly? Why should those who pay properly for parking have to subsidize your use of the roads, lots, etc.?

No sympathy here.

[reqle55]

Since you sign on to these rules when you agree to go to York, why would anyone sympathize?

How hard is it to park properly? Why should those who pay properly for parking have to subsidize your use of the roads, lots, etc.?

No sympathy here.



Wow, you're quite a guy!!!
Its like saying, you drive and someone hits you...you're loosing alot of blood, but no one should care becuase its your fault for driving in the first place!

so next time you're in trouble, i hope no one stops to help you!

[tip]

I had about 250 dollars worth of parking tickets when i was graduating last fall, and was forced to pay or they wouldn't let me convocate or receive my degree. The car was not even under my name, but they said the owner of the car's address was the same as mine, and the next person to graduate would have to pay it. So i paid the stupid fine.

I hate york.

Because you were a deadbeat and didn't pay?

[McLaren]

"hello my name is tip, look at me everyone i am a stupid newbie"

http://www.geocities.com/deadlockdomain/images/rage/stfunoob.jpg

[Rehii]

Lol! :D

[HowEver]

Wow, you're quite a guy!!!
Its like saying, you drive and someone hits you...you're loosing alot of blood, but no one should care becuase its your fault for driving in the first place!

so next time you're in trouble, i hope no one stops to help you!

How do you get from paying a parking ticket (for what, parking in a disabled space? blocking a fire lane? not displaying a parking pass properly? what?)

to letting someone suffer if they are in an accident?

How is helping someone get out of parking tickets similar to helping an accident victim? I have a fairly good imagination, and even a few degrees, and that is a stretch.

Despite that, the next time you are in an accident, I hope you get the help you need.

But if you double park and block in another car, they can tow you.

[tip]

"hello my name is tip, look at me everyone i am a stupid newbie"

http://www.geocities.com/deadlockdomain/images/rage/stfunoob.jpg

I take it from your ad hominem attack that you agreed with my assessment of you?

[arsenal6]

You guys are quite rediculous. Anyways yorku fines & parking is overpriced. I am told by people who work in yorku that if your car is towed u got 15 minutes to get it off bennett centre as if your parking there.

It will not be added to your MTO license. A 20 dollar ticket they put interest on it which is stupid. If i were you would not pay unless bound by a degree. Give em hell.

This isn't dt parking should not be 2 dollars for 30 minutes these are students after all ( they r raising the prices nxt semester (N)) so **** them

[UncleSteve]

You guys are quite rediculous.

You actually revived a 6 year-old thread that was last posted in 4 years ago!?!?

[Sogeking]

Check the tickets, there is a good chance that even though they are issued by the university they are city tickets, & if they are tied into the mto you're f***ed when you go to renew your plates.

Also wondering the same thing as pizzaman . . . how exactly are you smart enough to get into U of T, but dumb enough to run up $1700 in tickets?

i felt i too had to revive the tread to post a fail

'how exactly are you smart enough to get into U of T, but dumb enough to run up $1700 in tickets?'
wrong school fail :D

[user01]

Uh, $1400 is like 3-4 semester parking. I think you got owned, lol... :lol::lol::lol:

[Indeed]

Usopp!

[dhodgin]

I think the way most people get tickets is parking over the 3 hour limit

If you park on the new roads south of the parking lots south of Seneca there is a 3 hour time limit

However there is no signage anywhere to tell you and I only found out because I saw a parking dude driving down the road checking license plates and I asked him one day when I was parking.

The parking fees are rediculous ... $450-$600 per semester so I can understand why people try to get away with parking for free for 4 hours on the side street directly behind the parking lot that costs $150 a month which is 3/4 empty.

You would think york would take a hint and make the prices reasonable and fill the parking lot and make just as much if not more money than having the lots empty. Although I parked in the parking garage today for $14 for 6 hours and it was packed from noon to 5pm.

Not looking forward to paying $500 for parking for the semester if you can take a chance and park for free on the side road right beside the lots I don't blame people. Plus that whole article about york issuing parking tickets being illegal (http://www.yugsa.ca/?section_id=6&content_id=399) coming out a few days ago makes me wonder if I should just take my chances.

I go to Seneca anyway so I wonder if they would withhold my degree when I graduate next year. (I own my car)

[apexuw]

A. Parking Warning From Howard Moscoe, Councillor Ward 15

The following is the text of a public warning Howard Moscoe placed in the Excalibur, August 19, 2009:

WARNING TO ALL STUDENTS

When you register this fall do not give The University any information about any vehicle you are driving to campus, especially your license plate number and ownership data.

- York University has been issuing private parking tickets to students since 1990

- The University utilizes the vehicle information you provide to identify you so they can issue these tickets

- In July of 2004 the city of Toronto passed a bylaw making it illegal to issue private parking tickets but York continues to issue them

- The tickets are enforced by withholding marks, transcripts and even degrees for non-payment

My office has filed a complaint with the ombudsman regarding this practice and I would encourage you to do the same.

The Ombudsman is:

John D. McCamus
Ombudsman, York University
Osgoode Hall Law School
4700 Keele Street
North York, Ontario
M3J 1P3
jmccamus@osgoode.yorku.ca

We are considering taking legal action against The University. If you have received a York issued parking ticket or have a parking ticket story to tell, contact Ben Rothman, (416) 392-4028, brothman@toronto.ca

Howard Moscoe, Councillor Ward 15,
Chair of Licensing and Standards for the City of Toronto

[LaserEnvy]

If you have received a York issued parking ticket or have a parking ticket story to tell, contact Ben Rothman

Yes, I have a story:

I didn't pay it.

[pnyknights]

hey, does anybody have experience of dealing parking tickets in Yorku University.

I heard if your vehicle is not registered with Yorku, they cannot do anything about it besides keeping sending you parking tickets and statement. (coz they will get your address from MTO)

I've accumulated more than $1400. any suggestions? Thx :oops:

lol yorkie's.....just because we know how to use a fork doesn't necessarily mean we know how to park (dammint that doesn't rhyme!)

Check the tickets, there is a good chance that even though they are issued by the university they are city tickets, & if they are tied into the mto you're f***ed when you go to renew your plates.

Also wondering the same thing as pizzaman . . . how exactly are you smart enough to get into U of T, but dumb enough to run up $1700 in tickets?

i felt i too had to revive the tread to post a fail

'how exactly are you smart enough to get into U of T, but dumb enough to run up $1700 in tickets?'
wrong school fail :D

I was wondering the same thing too! UofT isn't the only university in the GTA people! **ahem** Ryerson is an 'institute' :razz:

Not sure if they still do, but when I was at york, the parking lot south of the TEL building would just open the gates after 12am....

[mysticalinfluence]

How the hell do you think he got in to university wise guy?!?
What kind of comment is that? Do you think someone who has accumulated parking tickets and knows of a way to avoid paying is considered too dumb for university?

Short answer, yes we do.

[csheyang]

So it is illegal for York to issue the parking tickets. I got a ticket, I don't plan to pay. But I don't want the collection agency calling and credit history of the owner going down (is it true?).

So what can I do? File it with the city and they will fine York for issuing illegal tickets?

[jamezgt]

I just got a ticket and I'm wondering how they get your information because I don't own the car, so how would they pin you?

[reynold]

i too have received a couple of parking tickets by York U. i was parking in the gated lot but i dont have a parking permit. wasn't really planning on paying it but just want to see what options are available to avoiding these stupid parking tickets

[Qbit]

i too have received a couple of parking tickets by York U. i was parking in the gated lot but i dont have a parking permit. wasn't really planning on paying it but just want to see what options are available to avoiding these stupid parking tickets

Come on now...

[phomp]

$1,400 in accumulated in tickets and they never towed your vehicle? I have seen them tow vehicles on campus before.

BTW, if you are the owner of the car and you owe that much in fines they can hold back your degree and transcripts until the fines are paid from what I have been told. A little hard for them to do this unless your car is registered with the school (IE- you bought a parking pass at one point in time).
If the car is your parents or registered in someone elses name than you are fine because they can not hold anything from you, and those fines will not stop you from renewing your licence or anything of that nature.

[reynold]

$1,400 in accumulated in tickets and they never towed your vehicle? I have seen them tow vehicles on campus before.

BTW, if you are the owner of the car and you owe that much in fines they can hold back your degree and transcripts until the fines are paid from what I have been told. A little hard for them to do this unless your car is registered with the school (IE- you bought a parking pass at one point in time).
If the car is your parents or registered in someone elses name than you are fine because they can not hold anything from you, and those fines will not stop you from renewing your licence or anything of that nature.

thats good news. shut up Qbit

[Qbit]

thats good news. shut up Qbit

Really? You use somebody elses services then choose to not pay and then ask how to avoid having them bill you. Don't use it.

[reynold]

Really? You use somebody elses services then choose to not pay and then ask how to avoid having them bill you. Don't use it.

yea so what if i do, i get away with it almost every time. im not going to pay $800 for a parking permit for two semesters on top of my tuition which is almost 4gs per semester when i could get away with free parking. What sounds like a better financial decision to you?

[1xTiMeR]

yea so what if i do, i get away with it almost every time. im not going to pay $800 for a parking permit for two semesters on top of my tuition which is almost 4gs per semester when i could get away with free parking. What sounds like a better financial decision to you?

Then don't drive to school, a Better financial decision. If you're complaining how much school costs, either drop out and don't pay, or suck it up and abide by the systems.

It's that black and white... complicated people tend to blow everything out of proportion when it's caused by their own stupidity.

[reynold]

Then don't drive to school, a Better financial decision. If you're complaining how much school costs, either drop out and don't pay, or suck it up and abide by the systems.

It's that black and white... complicated people tend to blow everything out of proportion when it's caused by their own stupidity.

OR i can continue driving to school, continue parking for free, not pay their "private parking tickets," and screw the system. how about that?

[help_questions]

Then don't drive to school, a Better financial decision. If you're complaining how much school costs, either drop out and don't pay, or suck it up and abide by the systems.

It's that black and white... complicated people tend to blow everything out of proportion when it's caused by their own stupidity.

he is abiding by the system.
he parked where he shouldn't have
he got a ticket
now he is trying to evaluate his options.

it does not sound like stupidity to me, as he is fully aware that he is taking a chance. is it a bad decision? maybe...but OP appears to have calculated his risk.

[Mrs_Popo]

My brother use to rack up tickets all the time. I will never divulge his secret.

[1xTiMeR]

OR i can continue driving to school, continue parking for free, not pay their "private parking tickets," and screw the system. how about that?

I can care less. If people weren't so caught up in their complaining, they would have their reality in check and would've used their common sense

[1xTiMeR]

he is abiding by the system.
he parked where he shouldn't have
he got a ticket
now he is trying to evaluate his options.

it does not sound like stupidity to me, as he is fully aware that he is taking a chance. is it a bad decision? maybe...but OP appears to have calculated his risk.


If he was strictly abiding by the system, he would pay that ticket in a heartbeat. So no, he is NOT abiding by the system but merely playing chance of any future consequences and quite frankly, stupidity caused this problem in the first place.

[reynold]

haha owned. just shut up and spend your mommy and daddys money because saving money is obviously stupid. If these tickets were actually written by parking police i would pay it regardless but in this case yorku tickets are a joke.

[Qbit]

Saving money is one thing; stealing is another. If you use it, pay for it. If you don't want to pay or think prices are outrageous, don't use it. At least be honest about what you are doing instead of rationalizing it as "saving money" or "balancing the universe".

Asking how to use it and avoid paying is akin to asking how do I steal from the university.

[1xTiMeR]

haha owned. just shut up and spend your mommy and daddys money because saving money is obviously stupid. If these tickets were actually written by parking police i would pay it regardless but in this case yorku tickets are a joke.

Don't assume I don't save and have to rely on my parents. Who and what is owned? Go ahead and get some common sense.

"I complain about money and I waste it on insurance and gas money where I can wake up 20mins early to take the transit. Oh What? A ticket? Oh well, I'll just ignore that.."

If you wanted to save money, go take the transit or better yet, drop out because you'd be saving more.. If you don't take york parking seriously, then continue to do as you please and hope for the best; nobody cares, including me.

Don't complain about money. You signed up for thousands of dollars in tuition, you might as well hit your head on the wall because you weren't aware when you did right? Also, I'm not sayings it is right or wrong to pay the ticket, don't complain about the finances... :|

[help_questions]

If he was strictly abiding by the system, he would pay that ticket in a heartbeat. So no, he is NOT abiding by the system but merely playing chance of any future consequences and quite frankly, stupidity caused this problem in the first place.

but within the system, there are options after the ticket has been issued.
he could pay the ticket
he could negotiate a lesser fine
he could ignore the ticket and suffer the consequences (late fees, transcripts issues, delayed grad)

[reynold]

Don't assume I don't save and have to rely on my parents. Who and what is owned? Go ahead and get some common sense.

"I complain about money and I waste it on insurance and gas money where I can wake up 20mins early to take the transit. Oh What? A ticket? Oh well, I'll just ignore that.."

If you wanted to save money, go take the transit or better yet, drop out because you'd be saving more.. If you don't take york parking seriously, then continue to do as you please and hope for the best; nobody cares, including me.

Don't complain about money. You signed up for thousands of dollars in tuition, you might as well hit your head on the wall because you weren't aware when you did right? Also, I'm not sayings it is right or wrong to pay the ticket, don't complain about the finances... :|

lol wow advising me to drop out real common sense there. im not complaining about tuition fees, they are priced but it will give me a brighter future and paying for parking isn't going to benefit me because these tickets arent linked with MTO so suck it