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wilson_wu
Aug 19th, 2006, 07:29 AM
What is this class like? I'm lucky to even be in it...I got in just before the curriculum changed :cheesygri

In Grade 11, I took "Functions" only...but this year, the prerequisite has changed. You need to have taken Grade 11 "Functions & Relations" to get into Grade 12 Calculus.

Anyways, I got 93% overall, 97% on my final exam for "Functions".

Is taking "Functions" over "Functions & Relations" going to have a major impact on me in Grade 12 Calc?

Please help.

Sarc
Aug 19th, 2006, 08:52 AM
You should be fine. I don't remember high school Calculus being hard. It's just the basics and I don't think the curriculum has added a lot of new content since dropping OAC year. All you need to get out of that course are several simple rules.

cjpark
Aug 19th, 2006, 09:26 AM
If you did that well in grade 11 then you should be fine in grade 12. It can be quite a bit of work, especially for students that aren't really strong in math but its really not that difficult. (though it did take me a few minutes to remember how to do the max/min problems when I was teaching/tutoring it)
You'll be fine.

awestruck
Aug 19th, 2006, 09:30 AM
Anyways, I got 93% overall, 97% on my final exam for "Functions".



You answered your own question/

Truemana
Aug 19th, 2006, 09:36 AM
In retrospect it was very easy, but at the time I struggled because it wasn't a required academic... no provincial exam. So I never focused on it much. I got 80% after getting 91% in math 12 the semester before. You should definately be fine though, just remember that it's not hard but if you plan on doing any post secondary mathematics it's all in calculus (besides linear algebra).

red_roses101
Aug 19th, 2006, 09:47 AM
F&R has that extra unit, Conics...which I don't think is used in Calculus...only in discrete.

Deal Devil
Aug 19th, 2006, 10:15 AM
You won't find Calculus to be a problem with your marks :lol:

alv077
Aug 19th, 2006, 11:01 AM
Calculus is going to be sweet for you.

imho calculus is the EASIEST grade 12 math course. Discrete I heard was a ***** from friends, but between data and calculus, calc is easyy stuff.

TheFuteballer
Aug 19th, 2006, 11:38 AM
no way Data was BY FAR the easiest grade 12 math course..

DarkPaladin56
Aug 19th, 2006, 11:42 AM
i found calc a joke last year lol
i didnt have to do any homework and missed my summative and still ended up with an 80 :)
you got nothin to worry about lol

Constellation
Aug 19th, 2006, 11:51 AM
Just pay attention in class and make sure you know what the hell is going on, and you should be fine. Grade 12 Calculus isn't that hard, really. Besides, with your previous marks, you probably have good study habits and/or good at math. If so, Calculus REALLY shouldn't be a problem.

alv077
Aug 19th, 2006, 05:17 PM
no way Data was BY FAR the easiest grade 12 math course..

noooo way.

you can call it "different" from normal math courses if you want. it was total hell trying to get a high 90s mark in that class.

evman150
Aug 19th, 2006, 07:57 PM
F&R has that extra unit, Conics...which I don't think is used in Calculus...only in discrete.

If you don't know conic sections, it makes multivariable calculus pretty difficult lol.

But that is obviously not in grade 12 calculus so the poster will be fine for now. But he'll eventually have to learn about conics. They don't reteach it in university, it is an assumed part of the high school curriculum.

I didn't take calculus in grade 12, but I wish I had. In grade 12 they teach it at a much slower pace and make it already basic. They teach you fundamentals. They don't prepare you to take the AP test at all, but you are in pretty good stead for Calculus I in university. If I had taken calc12, maybe I wouldn't have a C+ average in the five maths classes I've taken in university LOL. Or maybe I just suck at maths.

ch1nkyfl1p
Aug 20th, 2006, 04:58 PM
Calculus is going to be sweet for you.

imho calculus is the EASIEST grade 12 math course. Discrete I heard was a ***** from friends, but between data and calculus, calc is easyy stuff.

i agree with all the other posters though, if you got that high of a mark in gr11, you'll be fine in gr12 calc. haha..i found the opposite to be true! i found discrete alot easier than calculus.. the teacher said something about how it's the way a girl's mind thinks and a guy's thinks. haha..my class was 11 ppl and only three girls =). top three marks were the three girls =).

::tml240::
Aug 20th, 2006, 05:32 PM
i agree with all the other posters though, if you got that high of a mark in gr11, you'll be fine in gr12 calc. haha..i found the opposite to be true! i found discrete alot easier than calculus.. the teacher said something about how it's the way a girl's mind thinks and a guy's thinks. haha..my class was 11 ppl and only three girls =). top three marks were the three girls =).
^^^ yaa i found Proving more fun and easier than long derivatives... lol..

and dont worry OP, high mark in Gr. 11 ---- proof for better prep. for any Grade 12 math.

Muttsta
Aug 20th, 2006, 06:48 PM
It's really an easy class, however it all depends on your teacher
My calc teacher was literally the teacher from hell
I went into the exam with an 83% and finishing with a 75% :S
Turns out I got a 49% on the exam

However, next year rolls around and I take Calc at the U
I'm in the honors calc class and I end up with a final mark of 97.5%, top of my calc class

I personally don't think calc is so hard, it's just a few concepts that you have to grasp, however your teacher can make it or break it for you

Octavius
Aug 20th, 2006, 06:55 PM
I definitely failed OAC Calculous...but then again I never went to class, didn't crack open the textbook at all until just before the final exam and never did any homework...

I still managed to pull off a 60% before the final though...so that should give you an idea on how difficult the material was. It was just the final that killed me which caused me to fail...

Meh, knew I wasn't going to go for a math university program anyway...hazaa for Law :)

jljdaigl
Aug 20th, 2006, 08:13 PM
Grade 12 calc was fairly easy for me...it was all limits, derivatives and depending on which school you went to I know people who did anti-derivatives (integrals) and some who didnt.

If you learn the tricks for derivatives ahead of time, then the section where you are forced to use the definition becomes easy since you can check your answer in your head in like 2 seconds...other than that just pay attention and get your practice in and you should be fine!

mookies
Aug 20th, 2006, 08:36 PM
don't stress about calculus... i did VERY poorly grade 11 math (my teacher was a psycho..) and i got a 96 advanced placement calculus :D =P try hard to not fall behind and if you don't get something ask right away because the concepts do tend to build on each other

The_Duke_Of_Eli
Aug 20th, 2006, 09:26 PM
There a a big difference between the two courses. Simply functions barely scratches the surface of Calculus. I took AP Calculus which is an incredible prep course. Compared to the little they did in the normal course, and even now that they changed it to just functions, what you do now is barely anything of what you'll do in Calculus I at university.

JEDI-MASTER
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:11 AM
I had a different experience, I took GR 11 Functions Math and finished off with 96% but Calculus killed me in gr 12, perhaps I didn't catchup as it goes pretty fast. The harder parts were sketching the graph (after finding the slopes and y intercepts) and related rates. We touched on trig as well ( u may not) which even made it harder. Also, the thing that pulls down the marks is TIPS (thinking inquiry problem solving) it was 25% of our marks, and hardly anyone passes them (its like one after every test u get to do it with another person: who currently has the same class avg as u).

Good Luck!

corrupt123
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:18 AM
I'm going to be doing my 12 calc class on a tablet PC.

No Paper FTW... I hope. :|

grego9198
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:26 AM
Grade 12 Calculus was easy, I think I had a 90 in it (almost 4 years ago). I found the other course (Discrete mathematics?) a lot harder. I think I squeezed a 75 or something out of that course.

But I found university calculus a lot more difficult because grade 12 didn't cover a lot of what is done in Uni, especially integrals.

ace321
Aug 21st, 2006, 06:47 PM
good stuff

Eyies
Aug 23rd, 2006, 02:39 AM
I always wondered what was so hard about Calculus. Even if you don't know what the hell the question is talking about you can get like half the marks for just taking the derivative and finding a max/min -___-. It's kinda funny though.. I guess it's one of those things you look back at and wonder what was so hard about it. Meh.

I ended up getting higher in Algeo than Calculus though, I'm another one of those weirdos.

evman150
Aug 23rd, 2006, 02:47 AM
I always wondered what was so hard about Calculus. Even if you don't know what the hell the question is talking about you can get like half the marks for just taking the derivative and finding a max/min -___-. It's kinda funny though.. I guess it's one of those things you look back at and wonder what was so hard about it. Meh.

You do realize there's more to calculus than what is taught in high school, right?

Coolin
Aug 23rd, 2006, 07:38 PM
You do realize there's more to calculus than what is taught in high school, right?
He's in UT Electrical Engineering... He'll find out soon enough.

mingming
Aug 23rd, 2006, 08:21 PM
From my OAC years. I found OAC Calc to be the easiest of the 3. 2nd came Finite, then Algeo. All 3 I was in the enriched class. I went to Earl Haig for high school, back when it was still more reputable.

Once you get the idea what derivatives are all about and how you can use them, it will be a piece of cake. I understood exactly what it meant, and only studied a day before each test and exam. Ended up with a 97%.

As for the other 2, they werent as good. Another thing is that essentially, there is only 2 topics in calculus. Derivatives and Integrals. Finite and Algeo had so many independant topics. I guess that's what's hard about it.

So get a friend who can explain WELL what the meaning of a derivative is. Once you know that, calculus is really easy. I tutored a lot of my friends during that OAC year, even the ones who were bad at math came away with 80's in OAC Calc.