How to get a job as a programmer?

[prynce_qt]

It seems so hard to get a job as a software programmer, I just graduated and all the jobs I see require so much experience. How does a newbie start in this business? I don't really care how much I get paid now, but I want to start somewhere. Anyone give me any tips or even a hook up? Man this is stressing, lol.

[pimpbob]

I know how you feel. Right now, IBM has some job postings for recent grads in the GTA you may want to check out.

[xwar]

start as an entry level tester or something, just to get your foot in the door.

[Anteros]

I agree. If you cannot get a programming job, try for a QA position. QA positions almost invariably always need automation. Once you get the job, you can start looking at ways to automate the testcases/tasks.

Therefore, not only will you look good because you are making the environment better/faster/etc, you will be getting the development experience you need for that programming position.

I have no basis for this except for my own experience as a QA Automation Developer, but it seems that companies look very favourably on developers with QA experience.

[prynce_qt]

What's a QA? Question/Answer? LOL.

I agree. If you cannot get a programming job, try for a QA position. QA positions almost invariably always need automation. Once you get the job, you can start looking at ways to automate the testcases/tasks.

Therefore, not only will you look good because you are making the environment better/faster/etc, you will be getting the development experience you need for that programming position.

I have no basis for this except for my own experience as a QA Automation Developer, but it seems that companies look very favourably on developers with QA experience.

[Rocketo]

I agree. If you cannot get a programming job, try for a QA position. QA positions almost invariably always need automation. Once you get the job, you can start looking at ways to automate the testcases/tasks.

Therefore, not only will you look good because you are making the environment better/faster/etc, you will be getting the development experience you need for that programming position.

I have no basis for this except for my own experience as a QA Automation Developer, but it seems that companies look very favourably on developers with QA experience.

just remember to branch out into a b/a position or else you'll never get a good raise

[Frankie3s]

What's a QA? Question/Answer? LOL.

Quality Assurance.

[greg123]

hmm how do you get a programming job? apply, apply, apply, apply to the jobs even if they state you need xx years of experience, if you have experience from school, or something else you can sub it, it does not have to be working experience.

fresh grad testers in big companites Nortel, Alcatel starting pay $55k 0 experience required, obviously the more experience the more chance you get hired.

[coolspot]

fresh grad testers in big companites Nortel, Alcatel starting pay $55k 0 experience required, obviously the more experience the more chance you get hired.

From the postings I've seen, most grad programming jobs pay about 45K. You could get more depending on the company tho.

[fl4wless]

What's a QA? Question/Answer? LOL.

where did you go to school? Did you not learn any software development methodoligies?? I dont know how someone looking for a SD job could be asking what QA is??

[Blackie_Chan]

I graduated years ago, and found that no one looked at my resume untill I have some development/programming experience.

I got my first experience by being a volunteer developer for a few months. With the experience I was able to get similar jobs.

I'll suggest volunteering somewhere for experience.

[Audiogenic]

It seems so hard to get a job as a software programmer, I just graduated and all the jobs I see require so much experience.

It's not that the job necessarily requires that much experience...it's simply their way of weeding out the majority of the candidates. It's the same thing like needing over a 95% average out of school to get into medicine.

The market is fully saturated so you will need to network with existing industry professionals or look elsewhere location wise for opportunities (Calgary, ect.)