Geometry and Discrete

[red_roses101]

Do I need this for:

Life Science, Chemical Eng; Commerce/Business/Accounting?

[ak-47]

Do I need this for:

Life Science, Chemical Eng; Commerce/Business/Accounting?

yes for life sci at UT

first year u'll need to take the math course MAT135 and the last unit is all about discrete math

[civ@uw]

UW and Queens Engineering doent require Geometry and Discrete, all others do.

This is where you can find out required courses and mark cut-offs for any given program (Ontario universities only though):

http://einfo-dev.ouac.on.ca/html/english/programs_of_study.html

[wushudrew]

quite alot of programs that used to require g&d math now list it as an option. you can usually take either that or data management. check the university guidebooks for concrete details.

[chriswalsh]

I think it would be a big bonus for engineering if there is a common first year at the school you are going to.

I had to take a linear algebra course first year, and having discrete from highschool was definitely helped.

[hello1214]

depends on where you are going som uni dont need it but take it anyways so you will be better prepared...unless you are going to uw then it doesnt really matter as long as you have the grades and can get in as uw pretty teaches you from scratch...my friend started math with simple add/subtract at uw lol

[nkwu]

I would take it if youcould, some poeple love iit and findit easy, most people I knew found it farly difficult.

But the curriculum is changing(or supposed to?)

calculus is chanig to strictly function(I think?) and G & D is changing to simply...geomtetry I think. I forget the details. But there will no longer be proof in G & D

[nkwu]

I would take it if youcould, some poeple love iit and findit easy, most people I knew found it farly difficult.

But the curriculum is changing(or supposed to?)

calculus is chanig to strictly function(I think?) and G & D is changing to simply...geomtetry I think. I forget the details. But there will no longer be proof in G & D

[jeeva86]

You don't need it for Life Sci at U of T. I donno what post #2 is talking about. I know for any engineering at U of T, you need it. That's basically it.

[Steveoph]

They removed the requirent for Geo for Engineering programs I thought for all of Ontario, but guess not. The admissions person I talked to said that if your other marks are higher enough they don't require the Geo course because they figure you can just learn what you need of it in 1st year. THat being said, I'd take it.

[civ@uw]

Actually I was mistaken, those applying for admission into Engineering for Fall '07 don't need to take MGA4U anymore (well UofT, UW, and Queens are the only ones I checked but the others are probably the same).

[nkwu]

They changed the requirement it seems(from discussions with teachers) because of the way the curriculum was structured. There was a fair bit of overlap between G & D and Data Management, so any geometry you needed to know isn't *that* significant.

[civ@uw]

The only material from Geo and Discrete I ever saw in first year was algebraic vectors. There may not be much material from the course that is relevant to engineering (I'm speaking for mechanical and civil, dont know about the others) but I guess it was a requirement because of the problem solving aspect.

[Eyies]

Take it in High School.. even if it's not a pre-req. You'll be learning it eventually anyways, and well, it sucks learning it in university if you have no base, the pace is accelerated. Whereas, if you took it in high school, it's just like doing some review.

[hondansx]

They changed the requirement it seems(from discussions with teachers) because of the way the curriculum was structured. There was a fair bit of overlap between G & D and Data Management, so any geometry you needed to know isn't *that* significant.

The reason why MGA4U was dropped was because the number of engineering applicants were going down. IIRC, the UofT and UW were the first universities to make it recommended vs mandatory for engineering admissions, and now most universities are following suit, as they have seen that the applicant pool has increased once that change was made. If I'm not mistaken, Ryerson recommends vs requires MGA4U now as well.

[Sash[DSL]]

For commerce you usually need english and 2 maths, i.e. CALCULUS plus another one. You can take this or Data Management, your choice. Definitely do take calculus, it's easier that DATA or Geometry.

I applied to Mcmaster, UWL, UWO, UOFT. All had the same requirements I believe. Ryerson, guelph and york had less requirements, I think it was english+ 1 math.

[winner2000]

You do NOT need G&D for any type of commerce/biz degree so don't waste your time with it IF you're 100% sure you'll be applying for those programs.

[red_roses101]

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[red_roses101]

:arrowu: :| :-0 :( >:( :lol:
:mad: :!: :evil:

[angelove]

I think it may depend on the universities requirements but it's probably best to take this course. It was a bit hard for me ^^; but I got help from my dad. It's actually easier than the old OAC cirriculum according to my dad. lol

Don't forget you'll need graphing paper XD

[alv077]

fyi, data is the hardest math class EVER.

dont think that any previous math knowledge will help you in it.