View Full Version : Crazy Hezbollah attack I just saw on CTV
lip1978
Jul 29th, 2006, 12:11 AM
I was watching CTV news, and they showed this video where an Israeli ship was trying to help 2 people in a smaller boat, and bring them aboard the boat.
Then all of a sudden, the 2 people in the smaller boat blew themselves up, trying to bring the boat down. The Israeli soldiers were minorly hurt.
It's telling of the type of psychological things Israeli soldiers have to deal with on a day to day basis, i.e. ambulances, etc...
hagbard
Jul 29th, 2006, 12:22 AM
Those poor IDF guys, cry me a river.
jimi
Jul 29th, 2006, 12:25 AM
You can't expect anything else from terrorists.
They believe they are doing the right thing for a greater calling. I hope that one day acts like this are no longer neccessary in trying to make a point.
d_jedi
Jul 29th, 2006, 12:30 AM
It's hard for Israel to try to conduct themselves in the manner that the world demands for conduct in war (ie. minimizing civilian casualties, etc.) when they're fighting terrorists who do not even pretend to be bound by even minimal standards of human decency.
Beradon
Jul 29th, 2006, 12:43 AM
It's hard for Israel to try to conduct themselves in the manner that the world demands for conduct in war (ie. minimizing civilian casualties, etc.) when they're fighting terrorists who do not even pretend to be bound by even minimal standards of human decency.
Not only are these crazy acts happening over there but they're happening over in the US.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060729/ap_on_re_us/seattle_shooting;_ylt=An7JtPcNBm.LYvV4k44iZ7Os0NUE ;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OTB1amhuBHNlYwNtdHM-
Casanova
Jul 29th, 2006, 12:48 AM
I was watching CTV news, and they showed this video where an Israeli ship was trying to help 2 people in a smaller boat, and bring them aboard the boat.
Then all of a sudden, the 2 people in the smaller boat blew themselves up, trying to bring the boat down. The Israeli soldiers were minorly hurt.
It's telling of the type of psychological things Israeli soldiers have to deal with on a day to day basis, i.e. ambulances, etc...
poor them, that explains the 600 civilian deaths in Lebanon, finally you've managed to find a justification.
d_jedi
Jul 29th, 2006, 12:49 AM
Not only are these crazy acts happening over there but they're happening over in the US.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060729/ap_on_re_us/seattle_shooting;_ylt=An7JtPcNBm.LYvV4k44iZ7Os0NUE ;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OTB1amhuBHNlYwNtdHM-
Sickening. Call it what you want, racist, a hate crime, terrorism..
I think this guy deserves the death penalty.
Beradon
Jul 29th, 2006, 12:52 AM
Sickening. Call it what you want, racist, a hate crime, terrorism..
I think this guy deserves the death penalty.
I rather he share a cell with a guy name Tyrone. The guy will experience some pleasurable nights that allah would frown upon. :lol:
Casanova
Jul 29th, 2006, 12:52 AM
Sickening. Call it what you want, racist, a hate crime, terrorism..
I think this guy deserves the death penalty.
he does, just like those IDF soldiers invloved in crimes against humanity. My justification: this guy might be crazy but e should be punished, can you claim that for all of IDF?
Beradon
Jul 29th, 2006, 01:24 AM
he does, just like those IDF soldiers invloved in crimes against humanity. My justification: this guy might be crazy but e should be punished, can you claim that for all of IDF?
No, cuz the IDF is the savior for the lebanese. I feel the IDF is quite restrained. I tell you if it was me in charge of the IDF, I wouldn't hesitate to hit blatant hezbollah supporters. Be thankful the IDF is handling the situation.
Ferman
Jul 29th, 2006, 01:27 AM
I was watching CTV news, and they showed this video where an Israeli ship was trying to help 2 people in a smaller boat, and bring them aboard the boat.
Then all of a sudden, the 2 people in the smaller boat blew themselves up, trying to bring the boat down. The Israeli soldiers were minorly hurt.
It's telling of the type of psychological things Israeli soldiers have to deal with on a day to day basis, i.e. ambulances, etc...
Those are the kind of people that we need less of in this world.
Hope they are having fun finding all those virgins..
CheapScotsman
Jul 29th, 2006, 01:30 AM
I was watching CTV news, and they showed this video where an Israeli ship was trying to help 2 people in a smaller boat, and bring them aboard the boat.
Then all of a sudden, the 2 people in the smaller boat blew themselves up, trying to bring the boat down. The Israeli soldiers were minorly hurt.
It's telling of the type of psychological things Israeli soldiers have to deal with on a day to day basis, i.e. ambulances, etc...
Its also telling of the total screw ups that besets the entire Isreali "resistance" movement. These guys are totally incompetant and all they have managed to do in the last 50+ years is to lose their land, their standard of living and most of everything else ... mostly through sheer incompetance.
The Jordanians and Egyptians saw the light ... but its going to be a while still before these guys do.
lip1978
Jul 29th, 2006, 01:35 AM
Edit : I posted a stupid old link from a really old attack because I was really tired. Sorry...
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I've been trying to find a weblink for awhile.
Here's one to the story, but I've had problems finding the video.
Anyways, I gotta get some sleep.
Gnight.
hyperion
Jul 29th, 2006, 01:49 AM
I saw the clip on CNN, pretty disturbing..
d_jedi
Jul 29th, 2006, 04:14 AM
he does, just like those IDF soldiers invloved in crimes against humanity. My justification: this guy might be crazy but e should be punished, can you claim that for all of IDF?
It's not clear whether the actions of the IDF fall into this category.. although some are certainly worth investigating (ex. bombing of UN, bombing of Canadian civilians..)
john widow
Jul 29th, 2006, 04:20 AM
I wanna see a video.
Dudes, these ppl......................*sigh*, keep blowing themselves up....
asim99
Jul 29th, 2006, 07:23 AM
pretty crazy stuff....however, no civilians were involved, and i do not have issues with them targetting idf, or idf targetting these guys
these are simply two groups of terrorist (idf, hezbollah) trying to kill each other...may they both succeed
as regards the "psychological things Israeli soldiers have to deal with on a day to day basis", who the heck cares about the 'feelings' of murderers
Rehan
Jul 29th, 2006, 09:26 AM
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=950DEEDB1638F932A35752C1A96F948260
I've been trying to find a weblink for awhile.
Here's one to the story, but I've had problems finding the video.
Anyways, I gotta get some sleep.
Gnight. Why the heck is CTV showing video of an incident from 1989?!
And perhaps you can fix your opening post to say that the suicide attack was not by Hezbollah but by the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Front_for_the_Liberation_of_Palestine), which has only limited support in Palestine.
afong56
Jul 29th, 2006, 09:45 AM
thank you rehan, for adding some clarity.
the op's title is really misleading--by suggesting he 'just saw' this attack, we are led to believe it happened recently, not 17 years ago! (which is older than a lot of rfd'ers, btw)
and as rehan correctly points out--palestinian not lebanese, pfl not hezbollah.
what does this suggest?
another flamebait thread posted to cause debate that should get locked, imho.
bottomfeeder
Jul 29th, 2006, 09:52 AM
NO - I also saw the clip last night as well.
There were two guys on a small boat.
IDF boat came over to help and the small boat blew up real good.
IDF guys just suffered minor injuries
Weird thing was that the incident was filmed in what appeared to be night vision or black and white
hagbard
Jul 29th, 2006, 10:17 AM
And they're releasing that video now? Guess its just yet another example of the (fill in the blank) media propaganda machine at work, and of course, some credit to our resident propagandist.
lip1978
Jul 29th, 2006, 10:58 AM
No, no, it was really really late here, and I had been trying to google "Israel boat" on google news, and it came up, and I posted it without seeing the date.
Thanks for catching that Rehan, I'll try to find the real article and hopefully the video.
jessejericho
Jul 29th, 2006, 11:07 AM
No, no, it was really really late here, and I had been trying to google "Israel boat" on google news, and it came up, and I posted it without seeing the date.
Thanks for catching that Rehan, I'll try to find the real article and hopefully the video.
you're an idiot
this thread is idiotic
as is most of the political discussion on this forum
:|
bottomfeeder
Jul 29th, 2006, 11:14 AM
you're an idiot
this thread is idiotic - as is most of the political discussion on this forum
:|
If there is a radio station that I don't like - I don't tune in to it and then complain to everyone else in the car about how much that radio station sucks.
I change the radio station.
jessejericho
Jul 29th, 2006, 11:36 AM
If there is a radio station that I don't like - I don't tune in to it and then complain to everyone else in the car about how much that radio station sucks.
I change the radio station.
I complain about stuff that sucks all the time, its pretty much a hobby of mine.
bottomfeeder
Jul 29th, 2006, 11:42 AM
I complain about stuff that sucks all the time, its pretty much a hobby of mine.
Yeah - that is fun too.
I can just picture you when you are 67 in the rocking chair b*tching and complaining about everything - and you will be doing it damn well
Ha ha ha - no personal offense intended
Beradon
Jul 29th, 2006, 01:57 PM
The incident was on ctv news last nite.
You can still catch it by going to www.ctv.ca, then look for ctv news and click the video link. They'll air last nights broadcast.
shampoo
Jul 29th, 2006, 02:20 PM
Well thats what happens when a man has nothing to lose. When his family, his wife, childerns are killed by saveges! It is pathatic how ppl who support cruelty, killing of civilians including childern complain about sucide attacks by ppl who have nothing left.
OH BTW, UN inspectors have left the area, so now israelis can do whatever they want.
shampoo
Jul 29th, 2006, 02:23 PM
How come we don't See videos of bombs falling on childern and women on CNN and all those news networks? More then 600 innocent civilians have been killed. There must be videos of that, ofcouse we won't see them. Propeganda???
Mr._Hankey
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:06 PM
Well thats what happens when a man has nothing to lose. When his family, his wife, childerns are killed by saveges! It is pathatic how ppl who support cruelty, killing of civilians including childern complain about sucide attacks by ppl who have nothing left.
When you dedicate your entire life to the cause of Jihad you apparently have nothing to lose. Thousands of Islamofascists in every corner of the world are ready for this at any given time and they won't spare anyone, not even you.
maebach
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:10 PM
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060719/mideast_hezbollah_060719/20060721/
why are they using the fascist salute? are they trying to pull a halocaust?
jessejericho
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:11 PM
When you dedicate your entire life to the cause of Jihad you apparently have nothing to lose. Thousands of Islamofascists in every corner of the world are ready for this at any given time and they won't spare anyone, not even you.
lol omg
go back to watching cnn you oaf
maebach
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:11 PM
How come we don't See videos of bombs falling on childern and women on CNN and all those news networks? More then 600 innocent civilians have been killed. There must be videos of that, ofcouse we won't see them. Propeganda???
that's boring. dead civilians dont mean anything
/sarcasm
maebach
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:12 PM
lol omg
go back to watching cnn you oaf
what's so wrong about his comment? what he said is partially true. There are many jihader's in this world. Haven't you seen Syriana?
Mr._Hankey
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:15 PM
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060719/mideast_hezbollah_060719/20060721/
why are they using the fascist salute? are they trying to pull a halocaust?
Jeez...
Their support of Nazism is finally clear. "Party of God"? Or party of Hitler?
Ferman
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:15 PM
what's so wrong about his comment? what he said is partially true. There are many jihader's in this world. Haven't you seen Syriana?
Don't worry, just let him go back to watching his al jazeera..
jessejericho
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:18 PM
Don't worry, just let him go back to watching his al jazeera..
Do you even know what Al Jazeera is?
Mr._Hankey
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:18 PM
lol omg
go back to watching cnn you oaf
Your break is over.
Don't make your counter strike "n00bs" wait.
konfusion666
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:20 PM
Do you even know what Al Jazeera is?
From Ferman's posting history, he probably thinks it's the official broadcasting outlet of Al-Qaeda and that anyone who isn't a white-skinned Christian Albertan to be an Al-Qaeda supporter.
Alvito
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:21 PM
if they keep suicide attacking, then there wont be anyone to produce off spring. in a few generations their numbers will diminish.
Ferman
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:24 PM
From Ferman's posting history, he probably thinks it's the official broadcasting outlet of Al-Qaeda and that anyone who isn't a white-skinned Christian Albertan to be an Al-Qaeda supporter.
Funny how all the osama/suicide bombing preperation videos get sent to aljazeera television first.
maebach
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:25 PM
if they keep suicide attacking, then there wont be anyone to produce off spring. in a few generations their numbers will diminish.
I thought arabs have like 6 kids each?
Ferman
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:26 PM
if they keep suicide attacking, then there wont be anyone to produce off spring. in a few generations their numbers will diminish.
If they keep suicide bombing each other.. like the sunni's and shiite's are starting to do in iraq, that might not take a few generations.
konfusion666
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:26 PM
I thought arabs have like 6 kids each?
How old are you, 10?
jessejericho
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:27 PM
Funny how all the osama/suicide bombing preperation videos get sent to aljazeera television first.
Who should they be sent to instead? Maybe play them on CBC in Newfoundland? How about CNN in Texas?
crazyfound
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:29 PM
You can't expect anything else from terrorists.
They believe they are doing the right thing for a greater calling. I hope that one day acts like this are no longer neccessary in trying to make a point.
Your intelligence and bias is wearing thin. If Hezbollah is a terrorist group (which also happens to run schools, hospitals, medical care, etc) then Israel with the 4TH LARGEST MILITARY is also a terrorist.
Oh wait, Israel is allowed to kill people in Palestine and Lebanon because they are Jews, oh yeah that's right, those damn brown people go to hell, right?
WHAT ISRAEL (4th Largest Military) is doing in Lebanon and Palestine is AGAINST INTERNATIONAL LAW.
What USA (1st Largest Military) is doing in Iraq and Afghanistan IS AGAINST INTERNATIONAL LAW.
IS IT THAT HARD TO GET THAT THROUGH PEOPLES HEADS? This **** has been going on for over 20 years.
Ferman
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:30 PM
Who should they be sent to instead? Maybe play them on CBC in Newfoundland? How about CNN in Texas?
Jee.. I thought it wasn't "the official broadcasting outlet of Al-Qaeda.."
bottomfeeder
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:33 PM
There are two types of suicide bombers
1. Those with no hope
2. Those that are created to be weapons
What makes suicide bombers tick?
By Ellis Shuman June 4, 2001
http://www.israelinsider.com/channels/security/articles/sec_0049.htm
Combination of occupation and humiliation
Mouin Rabbani, director of the Palestinian American Research Center in Ramallah, claims, "Religious or ideological fervor appears to offer only a partial explanation." Rabbani says "Palestinian suicide bombers are neither products of a passive and unquestioning obedience to political authority nor pressed into service against their will."
Instead, Rabbani states that the common thread among all suicide bombers is the "bitter experience of what they see as Israeli state terror."
"Without exception, the suicide bombers have lived their lives on the receiving end of a system designed to trample their rights and crush every hope of a brighter future… Confronted by a seemingly endless combination of death, destruction, restriction, harassment and humiliation, they conclude that ending life as a bomb - rather than having it ended by a bullet - endows them, even if only in their final moments, with a semblance of purpose and control previously considered out of reach."
School trains suicide bombers
Wednesday, 18 July, 2001, 22:04 GMT 23:04 UK
Mohammed, a 14-year-old boy, draws himself with explosives strapped to his body, ready to blow himself to pieces if it means killing Jews. "Yes," he says, when asked if he wants to be a suicide bomber. "I want to liberate Palestine and be part of the revolution." The boys are told that it is good to kill and good to die The boys are shown pictures of those who have already died in the conflict with Israel. They are taught that to give their lives is to be guaranteed a place in heaven. And to be a suicide bomber is one of the highest forms of martyrdom.
The secret world of suicide bombers
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24892
Who are the suicide bombers? Pakistan's answer.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0617/p07s01-wome.html
If a child - usually an orphan - is trained from his earliest days in a Madrassa or other 'school' that a holy war is going on and that it is his duty to one day potentially carry out a suicide attack can you blame that child for what eventually happens? Do you blame the gun or the person that pulled the trigger for the ensuing death?
You can't try to understand a suicide bomber from our North American perspective. These people have one very focussed philosophy that is reinforced by what they see around them. They have no other frame of reference. No other perspective. In effect they can't make any other decision.
jessejericho
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:35 PM
Jee.. I thought it wasn't "the official broadcasting outlet of Al-Qaeda.."
Take 5 minutes and read up on the work Al Jazeera does. The Al-Qaeda videos are played there because that is the audience they are sending it to. It is NEWS, and it is more newsworthy than some 400lb fat chick getting eaten by an alligator in Florida, or whatever else CNN is "reporting" on today. A number of Canadians, Americans, Brits, etc work for Al Jazeera (and most of them caucasian, christian, what have you). You are merely exposing your biased, racist ignorance, which you could clear up with a little research and knowledge.
Ferman
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:38 PM
Take 5 minutes and read up on the work Al Jazeera does. The Al-Qaeda videos are played there because that is the audience they are sending it to. It is NEWS, and it is more newsworthy than some 400lb fat chick getting eaten by an alligator in Florida, or whatever else CNN is "reporting" on today. A number of Canadians, Americans, Brits, etc work for Al Jazeera (and most of them caucasian, christian, what have you). You are merely exposing your biased, racist ignorance, which you could clear up with a little research and knowledge.
You are also showing your anti-american bias even more so.
Showing videos glorifying the suicide/homicide bombers is more newsworthy that aligator deaths?
Don't you think there are CNN employees in arab countries?
jessejericho
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:44 PM
.... knew there was no point getting into this. Never mind man, just do your thing, keep watching, keep repeating. LATES!
bottomfeeder
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:45 PM
Do you even know what Al Jazeera is?
I am Canadian and I know that every story has multiple perspectives. I like to listen to multiple news sources but my favourite is the BBC. Too bad we don't get much from Germany or Switzerland.
I think that CNN is a joke - but they have good graphics.
Even worse is Fox News - but it is funny at times.
These outlets are good at brainwashing the American masses.
I watched CNN a few times and they were describing the Israeli actions against Lebanon as if it was a football game.
As for Al Jezeera - I think they have a very 'local perspective' when hey started but I think that they have tried to grow and develop into a globally respected new outlet - but still one that has a different perspective from CNN.
This is funny
Only on Fox: USMC captain in Control Room film labeled "TRAITOR?" for taking job at Aljazeera
http://mediamatters.org/items/200510120003?offset=20&show=1
Ferman
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:46 PM
.... knew there was no point getting into this. Never mind man, just do your thing, keep watching, keep repeating. LATES!
And keep paying your Canadian taxes, so we can support the anti terrorist work abroad!
Thanks!
Beradon
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:57 PM
lol omg
go back to watching cnn you oafHeh, I suggest you insert your head into a toilet and flush twice. That might rinse some sense into you.
bottomfeeder
Jul 29th, 2006, 03:58 PM
Al Jazeera - From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Jazeera
(Arabic: 'D,2J1) al-æaz+rä), meaning "The Island" and/or "The Peninsula" is an Arabic-language television channel based in Doha, Qatar. Its willingness to broadcast dissenting views, including on call-in shows, created controversies in the autocratic Persian Gulf Arab States. The station gained worldwide attention following the September 11, 2001 attacks, when it broadcast video statements by Osama bin Laden and other al-Qaeda leaders (see Videos of Osama bin Laden).
Al Jazeera operates several specialized television channels in addition to its primary news channel. These include Al Jazeera Sports, a popular Arabic-language sports channel, Al Jazeera Live, which broadcasts conferences in real time without editing or commentary, and the Al Jazeera Children's Channel. Future announced products include an English-language channel, Al Jazeera International, Al Jazeera Urdu, an Urdu language version catering mainly to South Asians and a channel specializing in documentaries, and possible music channels or an international newspaper.
BBC in news deal with Arabic TV
Friday, 17 January, 2003, 10:55 GMT
The BBC has signed a deal to exchange stories with the Arabic television news channel al-Jazeera. The BBC deal also means the broadcasters will share each other's facilities. Independent station al-Jazeera has a reputation for winning exclusives from the region, including footage of Osama Bin Laden, the leader of al-Qaeda, the organisation accused of plotting the 11 September attacks.
Al Jazeera aims to go global - in English
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0314/p07s02-wome.html
The new channel, called Al Jazeera International, will begin broadcasting in late spring, offering a mix of hourly news bulletins and longer reports, bankrolled, like the original station, by the emir of the Persian Gulf state of Qatar. The channel's mainly Western journalists promise to challenge existing stations such as CNN or BBC World. "I'd like to put more emphasis on the developing world," says Mr. Clark. "For instance I'd like to show that there's more to Africa than war and famine."
Is Al Jazeera the next PBS?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0314/p07s02-wome.html
Post date 04.26.06 | Issue date 05.01.06
It took Dave Marash about four years as a Washington anchor to become disgusted with the pandering, the triviality, and the sensationalism of TV news. Marash was a paragon of seriousness, as his bearded chin and intense eyes announced to even casual viewers of wrc-tv, Washington's local NBC affiliate, and, by 1989, he was fed up. Eight months before the FBI would discover Mayor Marion Barry smoking crack in the Vista International Hotel, Marash concluded in frustration to The Washington Post that scandal-mongering had created "an infatuation with what the mayor may or may not put up his nose rather than how he spends his day--the administration of his damn government, which is a shambles." So, in June, he left WRC for arguably the most serious show in network journalism: ABC's "Nightline." It was a perfect match: There, Marash would spend 16 years reporting on human rights abuses in Burma, ethnic cleansing in Kosovo, and aids in Zimbabwe. "Nightline" was a place where Marash could spotlight America's working poor in the midst of the stock market boom and conclude earnestly, "For those near the bottom, this is a world of constantly threatening hunger and recurring poverty." It's that sort of gravitas Marash intends to bring to his next job: Washington anchor for the new, English-language version of Al Jazeera.
Beradon
Jul 29th, 2006, 04:00 PM
There are two types of suicide bombers
1. Those with no hope
2. Those that are created to be weapons
Ahhh but these suicide bombers are instruments of evil.
Watch this clip and be enlightened. Many people in the middle east don't want to admit it.
Muslim cause for waging war on the west. (http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_MemriTV_Popup/video_480x360.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=null)
bottomfeeder
Jul 29th, 2006, 04:12 PM
That was an excellent clip.
That woman is right on the money.
I wonder how long she will be alive.
We need more reasonable people like her.
Beradon
Jul 29th, 2006, 04:15 PM
That was an excellent clip.
That woman is right on the money.
I wonder how long she will be alive.
We need more reasonable people like her.She's probably ignored and brushed aside since she is a woman over there.
bambam
Jul 29th, 2006, 04:24 PM
Wow. The propaganda machine is working hard to steal the headlines (from the incidents that took place years ago) to hinder Israeli invasion of Lebanon that killed 600 civilians already and millions are left homeless.
Yet this is not propaganda, this is not manipulation of public opinion.
Stop feeding the troll people.
bottomfeeder
Jul 29th, 2006, 04:31 PM
Wow. The propaganda machine is working hard to steal the headlines (from the incidents that took place years ago) to hinder Israeli invasion of Lebanon that killed 600 civilians already and millions are left homeless. Yet this is not propaganda, this is not manipulation of public opinion.
Stop feeding the troll people.
I dont understand what is wrong with this clip? I assume you are talking about the Wafa clip - since you don't reference anything else. The interview with Wafa Sultan (Arab American Psychologist) shows that there are reasonable people in the Arab Muslim community that can see what is wrong and what needs to be changed. I know there are many Muslims in Canada that feel the same was as this woman.
Are YOU trying to say that ALL Muslims are blood-thirsty savages that want to destroy Israel and the West? Are YOU trying to dehumanize Muslims so that they are an easier enemy to kill? So that you can sleep at night while the Israeli war machine slaughters innocent people. Innocent people that might think like Wafa.
It is a simple person who can only find the solution "Kill them all and let God sort them out" the best solution.
Beradon
Jul 29th, 2006, 04:32 PM
Wow. The propaganda machine is working hard to steal the headlines (from the incidents that took place years ago) to hinder Israeli invasion of Lebanon that killed 600 civilians already and millions are left homeless.
The real propaganda is to deflect blame from hezbollah and put it onto Israel. Classic and predictable, bambam.
bambam
Jul 29th, 2006, 04:33 PM
I dont understand what is wrong with this clip? I assume you are talking about the Wafa clip - since you don't reference anything else. The interview with Wafa Sultan (Arab American Psychologist) shows that there are reasonable people in the Arab Muslim community that can see what is wrong and what needs to be changed. I know there are many Muslims in Canada that feel the same was as this woman.
Are YOU trying to say that ALL Muslims are blood-thirsty savages that want to destroy Israel and the West? Are YOU trying to dehumanize Muslims so that they are an easier enemy to kill? So that you can sleep at night while the Israeli war machine slaughters innocent people. Innocent people that might think like Wafa.
It is a simple person who can only find the solution "Kill them all and let God sort them out" the best solution.
I am talking about this original post that started this thread relax and take deep breath.
bambam
Jul 29th, 2006, 04:48 PM
The real propaganda is to deflect blame from hezbollah and put it onto Israel. Classic and predictable, bambam.
Stop, personalising the topics and stop attempting to put words into my mouth.
Beradon
Jul 29th, 2006, 04:56 PM
Stop, personalising the topics and stop attempting to put words into my mouth.Stop accusing people of 'stealing headlines'. Or just stop posting altogether.
asim99
Jul 29th, 2006, 04:57 PM
Heh, I suggest you insert your head into a toilet and flush twice. That might rinse some sense into you.
home remedy, eh? now we know where all that "sense" in your posts comes from
asim99
Jul 29th, 2006, 04:58 PM
The real propaganda is to deflect blame from hezbollah and put it onto Israel. Classic and predictable, bambam.
israel is the real terrorist state, whose aggression, occupation and terror gave birth to groups like hezbollah...
asim99
Jul 29th, 2006, 05:00 PM
I am talking about this original post that started this thread relax and take deep breath.
never mind him...his sense of conversation is hurling insults, so you are simply better off either ignoring him or responding to to him in his language
bambam
Jul 29th, 2006, 05:13 PM
Stop accusing people of 'stealing headlines'.
Since when CTV is 'people?
stop posting altogether.
So, I say things that some don't like and put them in a bad situation therefore I have to be silenced huh? Hitler style.. Nice..
ShaTR
Jul 29th, 2006, 06:06 PM
know what i find funny
watching arguments between people who know what they are talking about, and people who only watch CNN :lol:
hey, this is a bit off topic, but have you guys noticed the star of david on CNN in the bottom text bar???? probably has been repeated a million times, but just thought id ask. its not on right now, but im sure it will be soon enough. next time u flip by, take a look see.
ps, i emailed them about it today, and its no longer there. hopefully i didn't make them take it down permanently. i doubt it, but ya never know.
Beradon
Jul 29th, 2006, 06:16 PM
home remedy, eh? now we know where all that "sense" in your posts comes from
We all know your type of logic (or lack of). It's either Israel being the agressor, or US being the terrorist, or Canada have a terrorist supporter as a PM, or combination of whatever irks you.
israel is the real terrorist state, whose aggression, occupation and terror gave birth to groups like hezbollah...There you go again. Quite monotonous. *sigh*
maebach
Jul 29th, 2006, 08:04 PM
israel is the real terrorist state, whose aggression, occupation and terror gave birth to groups like hezbollah...
thats a good way too look at it, but many groups have not been formed because of Isreal. They've been formed because some muslims want to take over the world. Why cant hezbollah be one of them?
champ91
Jul 29th, 2006, 08:09 PM
i saw it on CNN, it was about suicide water attacks.
usually using boats, jets skis, inflated balloons. usually really low-tech stuff.
poedua
Jul 29th, 2006, 08:16 PM
We all know your type of logic (or lack of). It's either Israel being the agressor, or US being the terrorist, or Canada have a terrorist supporter as a PM, or combination of whatever irks you.
There you go again. Quite monotonous. *sigh*
Actually, the irony is that the very same criteria and alleged type of evidence that have been cited by some as support for the argument that Isreal is a " terrorist state ", similarily defines Palestine ( given it is governed by the terrorist organisation Hamas ) as a " terrorist state " as well.
hagbard
Jul 29th, 2006, 09:34 PM
Noam Chomsky has pointed out that Israel has, daily, bombed southern Lebanon since they fully pulled out in 2000. Its was their invasion in 1982 that created Hezbollah in the first place. Hezbollah aren't terrorists at all, they're resistance fighters against ongoing Israeli aggression. Fully expect many more such organizations given Israel, and their proxy's, recent actions in that part of the world. The bad guys won't win, and that part gives me hope.
Mr._Hankey
Jul 29th, 2006, 10:13 PM
Noam Chomsky has pointed out that Israel has, daily, bombed southern Lebanon since they fully pulled out in 2000. Its was their invasion in 1982 that created Hezbollah in the first place. Hezbollah aren't terrorists at all, they're resistance fighters against ongoing Israeli aggression. Fully expect many more such organizations given Israel, and their proxy's, recent actions in that part of the world. The bad guys won't win, and that part gives me hope.
If Chomsky wrote that, he's not just a scumbag but a liar too.
Israel has bombed just a few targets in southern Lebanon since 2000, near the border, in retaliation to rockets and gunfire. This happened less than 10 times over the 6 year period.
The "bad" guys will win and your hopes of installing a regime of anarchy in the ME will vanish.
hagbard
Jul 29th, 2006, 10:53 PM
If Chomsky wrote that, he's not just a scumbag but a liar too.
Israel has bombed just a few targets in southern Lebanon since 2000, near the border, in retaliation to rockets and gunfire. This happened less than 10 times over the 6 year period.
I think I'll believe Chomsky over yourself.
The "bad" guys will win and your hopes of installing a regime of anarchy in the ME will vanish.
But they won't. They're loosing more ground every day.