Finally: ViewSonic® N3752W $800 / N3735W $850 @ Costco Thread

[gulu23]

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/largescreendisplays/lcdtvlargescreen/n3752w/

When I first announced Costco was selling the 32" ViewSonic for $999.99 on March 4, it took until March 18 to arrive. I went to Costco today to get some more info on the upcoming LCDs. A Costco employee spent 10 minutes searching on their system because he noticed the 37" ViewSonic N3752W in the system for $1000! He said the arrival date is an estimate, but the N3252w (http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcdtv/N3252w/) will be coming this week at Costco Regina @ $999.99 and will be put out on the shelf in 3 weeks when the N3250w (7 left) are sold out. The N3752W (http://www.viewsonic.com/products/largescreendisplays/lcdtvlargescreen/n3752w/) will be put out on the shelf 2 months after, depending on volume of TV sales at the end of summer. I would expect it late September/early October, in Regina, but much sooner in larger cities considering the N3252w is already on shelves in larger cities.

Happy Costco shopping (especially the Executive Members who get an extra 2% cash back)! This is only a heads up for people looking for a TV before the NFL season starts on Sept. 7 OR before the NHL season starts Oct. 4, 2006. :)

July 5, 2007 Edit by Evil Techie:
The price of N3752W has been dropped to $800
while the new model with improved panel (but still 720p) the N3735W goes for $850
Here is N3735w
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2518/dsc00060nd5.jpg
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1993/dsc00059nz6.jpg


Evil Techie's edit:
it looks like the N3752 will be in stock for the East Coast at around end of October.
Similar dates for West Coast
at a price of $800

Gulu's edit: Now available Canada wide.
http://www.viewsonic.com/images/media/n3752w_us_eng_front_lrg.jpg
http://www.viewsonic.com/images/media/n3752w_us_eng_side_lrg.jpg

[Rammy]

Thanks for the heads up ! I'm planning on getting a next gen console within that time table & HD Terminals go on sale then too. Anyway, thanks again.

[DualSoul]

Looks like it's that time to apply for a Costco membership...

Thanks for the update, can't wait for this deal to arrive!

[ReBeL]

Thnx for the heads-up OP.... :D

Much appreciated......


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[Coppertone2005]

hope you are right again about the price. Looking to get a LCD this year and was thinking of the 32" but if I can get a 37" for $1000 in Sept/Oct., I will wait for it. Thanks for the info.

[bambam]

1366x768 blah!

[paleo]

Thanks OP! Wow, that's a pretty amazing price.

Just a note to those jumping from 32 to 37...make sure your viewing distance is great enough. I bought the 32" and at a distance of about 7 feet thought it was WAY too grainy even on DVD (small apartment...tv against one wall, sofa against the opposite). I switched to the 27" and it looked perfect.

Just a heads up so some aren't dissapointed because bigger isn't always better.

Also I highly recommend the extra $50 for the executive as it's no risk. You will probably end up paying for your entire membership anyway.

Costco rules.

[JohnB]

Wow, thanks for the post - I put some money aside for a nice flatscreen TV and this looks like a good deal, worth the wait...

Ive waited this long for the prices to drop, but 1k for a 37" :?: - I dont care if it drops in price anymore, this is a price Id be happy to pay...now just to wait till its out... :)

[Wulf]

Thanks... I bought a 3250 after following the OP's other thread and its been perfect. I'll be tempted by this one too for sure.

[bembol]

I wonder how many will be taking advantage of Costco's Return policy...?!?! LOL


Thanks gulu23...time to save up...!!!

[lewdvig]

Wow - just wow. I don't know what else to say.

I wonder what a 42" Plasma or LCD will cost this fall...

Time to start broadcasting everything in 16:9 eh?

[cko64]

Time to find the 32" Viewsonic TV box from the basement.

[CanadaBoy]

Time to find the 32" Viewsonic TV box from the basement.

Thats RFD for you

[Geologic]

This thread's going to get pretty damn long before September rolls around.

[gateway]

wow, I originally thought a 32 for my place is still too small, space between my tv and my couch is about 6 foot, so do you mean that i shouldn't go with a 37?

[l0thar]

Thanks for the heads up - I bought the Viewsonic 3250 model, and was discussing in the other thread about exchanging it for the new 3252.

This one will be better, althugh might take a while to come to the stores. Our local Costco has a bunch of 3250's that must be sold before 3252 kicks in. And if they brought the 37" for the price of a 32", none would sell. :)


Look forward to seeing it!

[Nitram]

September is good, I'll have the time to pay of my current debts and get a new one :P

[Beradon]

wow, I originally thought a 32 for my place is still too small, space between my tv and my couch is about 6 foot, so do you mean that i shouldn't go with a 37?
If you would like a bigger screen without the grainyness that paleo talked about, then I would suggest a DLP tv.

[jackboot]

Thanks OP - this is great info. There is a good chance I'll be in for one:)

[sfu_lifer]

1366x768 blah!
Yeah, that's the only bummer in this deal. I'm not sure you can tell much difference between 720pish and 1080p at this size.

[Ashtangi]

How do Costco returns work? If someone paid $999 for the n3250, and it subsequently drops to $799 or whatever next week, will Costco only refund $799 or the original purchase price?

[SBC31]

Excellent... Thanks for letting us know as I will be making a purchase in September as I should be done with my basement reno and that TV would be perfect.

Cheers.

[pspxbox]

Anyone confirm this upcoming deal in Toronto

[parry]

Sounds great. I wonder what will it be like on the Boxing day. Seems like the prices will drop considerably. Great for people willing to wait.

[bottomfeeder]

I don't understand. The link you provided shows a price of $1,700.
I have never seen a TV drop $700 in a period of 2 or 3 months.

Any explanation?

[Metablob]

Yeah, that's the only bummer in this deal. I'm not sure you can tell much difference between 720pish and 1080p at this size.

If you have 20/20 vision, you need to sit closer than 2 screen widths in order to see the difference between 1080i and 720p. In this case you need to sit about 5ft away.

[mineown]

Anyone know how is it compared to Daytek DT3740?

[bambam]

Yeah, that's the only bummer in this deal. I'm not sure you can tell much difference between 720pish and 1080p at this size.


I was more of considering as a PC display as well 1920x1200 anyone?

[aleksandar_2000]

I don't understand. The link you provided shows a price of $1,700.
I have never seen a TV drop $700 in a period of 2 or 3 months.

Any explanation?



The VS site is selling it for $1,494.00 so it may go down in price if new models are released (1080p maybe ?)
Regarding comments in this thread I don't see how 32-37" wide screen can be "too big" for any size of room.
My living room is small but I don't intend to go with anything less than 42"

Daytek 40" LCD TV was selling for 1750 a week ago...

[Emancipated]

I wonder how many will be taking advantage of Costco's Return policy...?!?! LOL


Thanks gulu23...time to save up...!!!

Wow, didn't take long.


Time to find the 32" Viewsonic TV box from the basement.

[jerryhussain]

I was more of considering as a PC display as well 1920x1200 anyone?
1. 37"
2. LCD
3. 1080p
4. Good luck :cheesygri

[riskit]

I wonder how many will be taking advantage of Costco's Return policy...?!?! LOL


Thanks gulu23...time to save up...!!!

Everyone just do not forget what happened with staples 150% pm

Last week I went to return the scandisk mp3 player back to Costco and was refuse since I was missing the instruction book and the battery, The lady said that Costco whats the complete package back as sold.

[warpdrive]

I was more of considering as a PC display as well 1920x1200 anyone?
Sorry, you're going to have wait a few years before that technology hits the $1000 mark in large screen sizes like this. The largest you'll find right now is the Dell 30" which require dual-link DVI compatible video card which goes for about $1400 on sale.

[gulu23]

GYR8 can you confirm this "future price" at your Costco? If you can check in your location, we can get a better estimate and narrow down when the TVs will be ordered...I am so pumped for this deal.

[bonzo]

I highly doubt it will go down to $1000 cdn the best price in the US was 1200 with 200 mail in rebate at amazon awhile ago and 1299 at costco in the States. If it does go that low I will take advantage of the deal, I just can't see it dropping $700 dollars in 2-3 months time.

I guess I'll beleive it when I see it. More confirmations of people seeing that price would be great to hear.

[jimbojones]

Whats with only 1 component input? 1 composite? 1 s-video? Not enough inputs IMO, but the price is great if true. I'll have to check it out in person when it arrives.

[bembol]

Whats with only 1 component input? 1 composite? 1 s-video? Not enough inputs IMO, but the price is great if true. I'll have to check it out in person when it arrives.

It's pretty weak...I guess it will do since this will just be an addition to my room...!!!


Anyone here have a Pic of the Remote...it's not in the ViewSonic site...is it an improvement over the 27" model...???

[gumby]

Thanks OP! Wow, that's a pretty amazing price.

Just a note to those jumping from 32 to 37...make sure your viewing distance is great enough. I bought the 32" and at a distance of about 7 feet thought it was WAY too grainy even on DVD (small apartment...tv against one wall, sofa against the opposite). I switched to the 27" and it looked perfect.

Just a heads up so some aren't dissapointed because bigger isn't always better.

I am also curious because I just built my basement office and it's only over 10' long. I found this info for LCD TVs at http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdtelevision/allbuyingtips.shtml

The right distance depends on the size of your TV:

For 20 to 27-inch displays, you should be able to watch comfortably from 2.5 to 5 feet away.
For 32 to 37-inch TVs, you should sit back 6 to 8 feet from the screen itself.
For 42 to 46-inch TVs, you'll need 10 to 14 feet between you and the screen.
50-inch LCD displays look best when viewed from 12 to 16 feet away.

It should be fine for a 37" LCD TV. In the review article for a Sharp 45" LCD TV, the recommended viewing distance was between 6' and 8'.

[teknoluv]

Prices on tech toys ARE going to drop anyway, and will only be faster than ever in the future. I won't be surprised if we have a Costco Viewsonic 37" below $1k, the question really is: do you have the time (to wait through the summer)?

[brandnew]

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Prices on tech toys ARE going to drop anyway, and will only be faster than ever in the future. I won't be surprised if we have a Costco Viewsonic 37" below $1k, the question really is: do you have the time (to wait through the summer)?

[WalnutCrunch]

wow, I originally thought a 32 for my place is still too small, space between my tv and my couch is about 6 foot, so do you mean that i shouldn't go with a 37?

6 feet is ideal for a 37" TV, IMO.

There are 2 kinds of "graininess". The first kind is from sitting so close than you can see each pixel on the set. I don't think this will be the case here unless you have very very good vision. I have a 50" 720p TV and near 20/20 vision; and cannot see the individual pixels unless I get closer than 6'.

The "graininess" that the person was talking about is probably the artifacts that appear when the TV upconverting 480i/p content to 720p. This is sometimes noticeable even at the proper viewing distance. This is the case for SD TV channels. DVDs are also 480i/p but they're usually of a better quality so it's less of an issue. If you plan on getting HDTV (thru cable, satellite, or OTA), the picture will look great even at 6 feet.

[akt921]

Yeah, that's the only bummer in this deal. I'm not sure you can tell much difference between 720pish and 1080p at this size.
There's no 1080P broadcast in cable or satellite anyway, so the resolution is okay IMO. Or unless you have a Blu-Ray or HD DVD player, that's a different story.

[bambam]

Sorry, you're going to have wait a few years before that technology hits the $1000 mark in large screen sizes like this. The largest you'll find right now is the Dell 30" which require dual-link DVI compatible video card which goes for about $1400 on sale.

Well bay sells Acer 37" that does 1920x1200 for $1700.

[barabashka]

The "graininess" that the person was talking about is probably the artifacts that appear when the TV upconverting 480i/p content to 720p. This is sometimes noticeable even at the proper viewing distance. This is the case for SD TV channels. DVDs are also 480i/p but they're usually of a better quality so it's less of an issue. If you plan on getting HDTV (thru cable, satellite, or OTA), the picture will look great even at 6 feet.

Even if you get HDTV you will still see those artifacts. Although they advertise the channels as HD they are really upconverted SD. The only true HD channels that were not upconverted that I have seen are the Rogers HD preview channel and Discovery HD.
It's gonna be a while until all the stations start recording stuff in true HD instead of upconverting, so until then if you have less than 10-15 feet to work with no point buying anything bigger than 32".

[bottomfeeder]

There's no 1080P broadcast in cable or satellite anyway, so the resolution is okay IMO. Or unless you have a Blu-Ray or HD DVD player, that's a different story.


See teh following for channel list and broadcast format
http://www.remotecentral.com/hdtv/index.html

A lot of stations are broadcasting at 1080i

[WalnutCrunch]

Even if you get HDTV you will still see those artifacts. Although they advertise the channels as HD they are really upconverted SD. The only true HD channels that were not upconverted that I have seen are the Rogers HD preview channel and Discovery HD.
It's gonna be a while until all the stations start recording stuff in true HD instead of upconverting, so until then if you have less than 10-15 feet to work with no point buying anything bigger than 32".

This is a bit off topic, but it's simply not true! Most primetime network programs (CSI, Lost, even sitcoms) except for reality shows are in true HD and have been for a while. Many sporting events are captured and broadcast in HD as well. Even feature films have been remastered and broadcast in full HD and 5.1 sound (watch ABC Saturday Night Movie, it's many times better than a DVD).

[StarStrike]

Even if you get HDTV you will still see those artifacts. Although they advertise the channels as HD they are really upconverted SD. The only true HD channels that were not upconverted that I have seen are the Rogers HD preview channel and Discovery HD.
It's gonna be a while until all the stations start recording stuff in true HD instead of upconverting, so until then if you have less than 10-15 feet to work with no point buying anything bigger than 32".


FOX, NBC, ABC, and CBS are all REAL HDTV as well.

[cannon_fodder]

The VS site is selling it for $1,494.00 so it may go down in price if new models are released (1080p maybe ?)
Regarding comments in this thread I don't see how 32-37" wide screen can be "too big" for any size of room.
My living room is small but I don't intend to go with anything less than 42"

Daytek 40" LCD TV was selling for 1750 a week ago...

I, too, would be surprised that there would be such a dramatic price drop in this short a period of time.

However, if one goes to Costco.com (US website) it looks like Sceptre and Costco will be dropping the price on a 37" LCD from $1499 to $999 because it is older and/or less resolution than the newer/better model. The newer/better model is at $1499 and it is hard to understand why anyone would pay the same amount of money for a unit that does only 1366x768 vs 1920x1080

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Productgroup.aspx?Prodid=11136840&whse=BC&topnav=&browse=

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11042448&whse=BC&topnav=&browse=

[barabashka]

This is a bit off topic, but it's simply not true! Most primetime network programs (CSI, Lost, even sitcoms) except for reality shows are in true HD and have been for a while. Many sporting events are captured and broadcast in HD as well. Even feature films have been remastered and broadcast in full HD and 5.1 sound (watch ABC Saturday Night Movie, it's many times better than a DVD).


Remastered, upconverted, call it whatever you want. CSI, Lost and others I can see the graininess on my 44" DLP even from 10 feet out. Yes they are broadcasted 16:9 with 5.1 sound, and yes they look better then DVD, but you will still see the grains of "remastering".
This was just the comment for people who are thinking of trading in their 3250s for the 3760s.
But then again I may have a better than 20/20 vision and it's my own problem.

[GYR8]

GYR8 can you confirm this "future price" at your Costco? If you can check in your location, we can get a better estimate and narrow down when the TVs will be ordered...I am so pumped for this deal.

I am going to be honest with you. This kind of information is not only speculative (No I havent looked it up yet), but it's also pretty risky for an employee to be telling people this kind of information, so far in advance. There are some questions I can and cannot answer, and in this case I think I am going to have to go with my gut and just stay out of this thread.
I don't want to get into any trouble and my spidey-sense tells me this is potentially going down that path.

Sorry guys and gals :(

GYR8

[riskit]

Here is pc mag review (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1952981,00.asp)

ViewSonic N3760w
REVIEW DATE: 04.24.06

BOTTOM LINE:
The ViewSonic N3760w LCD TV offers a good-looking picture, but there are similarly priced alternatives that provide a larger selection of A/V inputs, a better selection of accessories, and more advanced picture controls.

PROS:
Bright picture. Good viewing angles.

CONS:
Inconsistent video noise reduction. Unable to add channels missed during auto-scan.

COMPANY:
ViewSonic Corp.


SPEC DATA

Price: $1,999.00
Type: HDTV
Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Video Inputs: Component, Composite, HDMI, RF, S-Video
PC Interfaces: Analog VGA, HDMI
Supported EDTV and HDTV Resolutions (HD Ready): 480p, 720p, 1080i
Built-in TV Tuner: NTSC, ATSC
Rated Maximum Viewing Angle: Horizontal: 178 degrees
Rated Maximum Viewing Angle: Vertical : 178 degrees
Max PC Resolution: 1360 x 768 pixels x pixels
EDITOR RATING:


By Robert Heron
The ViewSonic N3760w ($1,999 list) is a solidly built 37-inch LCD TV that offers easy setup and, with a few minor adjustments, good picture quality. However, I've seen similarly priced LCD TVs that deliver as good (if not slightly better) picture quality while providing a greater selection of A/V inputs, better accessories, and more comprehensive picture controls.

The N3760w's factory-attached table stand and bottom-mounted speaker enclosure made setup easy. A removable cover on the rear of the TV offers easy access to a good selection of analog A/V inputs including a pair of component video connections and a pair of S-Video inputs. An additional A/V input block centered on the rear of the display (facing downwards) provides VGA, HDMI, and RF video connections. One of the two RF connections is dedicated to (unencrypted) cable TV tuning. The other RF input handles analog (NTSC) and digital (ATSC) broadcast tuning. My concern with the N3760's A/V input selection is the single digital video input (HDMI). An HDTV at this price should provide at least two.

The N3760w offers a native resolution of 1,366-by-768 pixels—slightly exceeding the resolution of a 720p high-definition broadcast. The TV's dark-colored bezel and frame have a matte finish in order to reduce ambient-light reflections. The power indicator light on the front is behind a piece of tinted plastic, so it's unobtrusive. Accessories included a single composite video/stereo audio cable, a power cord, and a remote control. A multilingual manual and setup poster complete the list of in-the-box contents.

The remote control performed well from long range (tested to 15 feet), but its lack of a backlight or glowing keys had me feeling around for some of the smaller buttons on its cluttered face. Oddly, the remote is described as a universal design, and it provides VCR/DVD-like function keys, but neither the manual nor the company's Web site provide any device codes or information related to configuring this functionality.

Upon entering the TV's menu system, I was greeted by a tab-style interface that offered clearly labeled sections. Switching to the TV tuner setup tab, I was disappointed to find that there was no way to scan for analog and digital broadcast channels separately. Compounding my disappointment was that you can't manually add channels that the TV's auto-scan feature missed. With the TV's insensitive tuner unable to receive several of my favorite local HD channels, I moved on.

Connecting a Denon DVD-3910 disc player to the N3760w, I checked out how the TV looked when displaying DVD movies. For this viewing examination, the Denon was set to output 480i via component video and 720p via HDMI. Checking the THX video setup tool revealed that the TV's default brightness and contrast with component video were out of adjustment. Brightness was set too low, causing a loss of detail in dark portions of the image. Contrast was set too high, so peak-white details blended together rather than remaining distinct. The TV's default brightness and contrast levels appeared good with HDMI.

Watching DVD movies on the N3760w was a pleasing experience for the most part, but there were a couple of visual quirks. The TV's scaler did a good job with 480i component video, producing an image that looked the same as the one from the 720p signal. Film-based DVDs such as Gladiator showed that the N3760w's 3:2 pulldown function was performing properly, but I did notice some minor jagged-edge artifacts, and video noise reduction was inconsistent. The N3760w's Pixelworks DNX video processor did an admirable job of cleaning up the noisy film transfer of the Raiders of the Lost Ark DVD. But it had a difficult time with video noise in scenes containing motion—most noticeable in panning shots of the sky. The notoriously challenging chapter 7 of the DVD movie The Fifth Element looked surprisingly good, with minimal noise or other artifacts in the dark portions of the picture. Subjectively, the TV's representation of color appeared natural. Skin tones, in particular, looked realistic, with none of the "lobster face" that I saw when viewing similar content on the 37-inch Sceptre X37SV-Naga.

When using the N3760w as a PC display, the VGA input offered the best results, as it allowed the near 1:1 resolution of 1,360-by-768 pixels with no overscan. Connecting the test PC via HDMI required a resolution change to 1,280-by-720 pixels (720p) in order to fill the screen completely. The N3760w's 8-millisecond pixel-response time minimized motion-smearing artifacts as well as any LCD can. Screen geometry with 720p and 1080i signals appeared good, with no noticeable distortions, and overscan was less than 1%.

The N3760w scored a bit below average with the HQV Benchmark DVD test. The HDTV had trouble suppressing the jagged edges of the moving-bar tests, and a few jaggies were detected in the video clip of the waving flag. The N3760w's lack of adjustable video-noise reduction left no way of determining the effectiveness of the Pixelworks video processor. Significant noise was noted in the DVD's static scenes, as well as in the rollercoaster clip that tests for noise reduction in scenes containing motion.

Though the N3760w is a good HDTV, there are better alternatives available. For instance, the 37-inch HP Pavilion LC3700N LCD TV, which lists for just $100 more than the N3760w, integrates a better video processor that provides user-adjustable controls. The LC3700N also provides DVI and FireWire inputs in addition to an HDMI input, and unlike the N3760w, it has advanced color controls and a fully backlit remote control. Although both displays provide good color accuracy and similar screen resolution, I would recommend the LC3700N over the N3760w based on A/V input selection and overall image quality.

Sub-ratings:
Image Quality:
Value:
Usability:

Benchmark Test Results:
Factory default display settings
HDMI video input @ 720p


Objective Testing (higher is better):
VESA Uniformity (black): 80.3% (average)
VESA Uniformity (white): 85.3% (average)


rear views

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http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/12/0,1425,sz=1&i=125523,00.gif

[dvdvideo]

It seems that the noise comments are mostly confined to when the unit is doing the line doubling, probably doesn't apply to good progressive sources.

[WalnutCrunch]

Remastered, upconverted, call it whatever you want.

There's a big difference. Upconversion is taking 480i content and making it 720p or 1080i. The video is going from a lower resolution to a higher one, and the scaler has to interpolate information that isn't there. It creates the nasty artifacts I was talking about.

When something is transferred from film to 1080i (feature movies, shows like CSI), they're going from a higher resolution (film) to a lower res. Just because they're not shot using HD cameras, doesn't mean you can't see it in true HD.

Anyway, this is the wrong place to discuss this.

[felix2000]

This is a bit off topic, but it's simply not true! Most primetime network programs (CSI, Lost, even sitcoms) except for reality shows are in true HD and have been for a while. Many sporting events are captured and broadcast in HD as well. Even feature films have been remastered and broadcast in full HD and 5.1 sound (watch ABC Saturday Night Movie, it's many times better than a DVD).


One thing that is a big misconceptions about HDTV is that is people automatically assume good quality. The HDTV standard is nothing more than a set of accepted screen resolutions.

So one could take a SDTV picture and upconvert it to an HDTV resolution and that would be considered HD. Obviously with that scenario the quality would not be there. MPEG bitrate plays a big deal in the actual quality of the picture. So a high bitrate 480i/p source will look better than a low bitrate 1080i source.

BTW all LCD and Plasma displays convert all signals progressive. Interlace is only for tube TVs. So a 1080i signal would be output as 1080p.
Also most LCD/Plasma are 1366x768, 1024x768 or lower so they will accept your fancy 1080i signal and nicely downconvert it to something like 720p/480p

Another thing to consider is that Rogers etc do not broadcast full HD and probably never will in the near future (except a couples things like the HD promo channel and the shopping network). They compress their HD signal quite heavily. When it comes down to it they would rather be able to sell you 2-3 lower quality HD channels than 1 high quality channel.

Here are some sources:
HDTV - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdtv
Resolutions - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution
More about HD - http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?page=7571&head=0

Hope this gives people a little better info on HD
Felix2000

[NightRain]

I don't understand. The link you provided shows a price of $1,700.
I have never seen a TV drop $700 in a period of 2 or 3 months.

Any explanation?

I have seen a price drop that much over night. When I bought my first big screen hdtv in 2002 the price was $3999.99 for a 50" toshiba and then the next week the regualr price was $3199.99 a $800 price drop. It happens.

[NightRain]

This is a bit off topic, but it's simply not true! Most primetime network programs (CSI, Lost, even sitcoms) except for reality shows are in true HD and have been for a while. Many sporting events are captured and broadcast in HD as well. Even feature films have been remastered and broadcast in full HD and 5.1 sound (watch ABC Saturday Night Movie, it's many times better than a DVD).

Agree 100%, watch a football game on HDTV and switch back to the SDTV channel and you'll see a HUGE difference, it is like night and day. I notice it and so do all my friends. Also the same thing goes for most all new primetime shows like you mentioned. Older reruns like everyone loves raymond aren't in HD and are upconverted but what else do you expect.

Also movies on the Movie Networks look better than the same films on DVD. I have watched Star Wars Episode III just last month in HD on TMN and it is far superior to the DVD version, in fact it is the best image my HDTV has ever seen.


BTW I have a 57" screen and sit about 14 feet away. I was planning on buying a 32" LCD in august but I'll wait a while now and see if the 37" does actually drop in price, if it does I'll get that. This would be for my computer room too hang on the wall, I'll be sitting about 5 feet away from it.

[FacistCop]

There's no 1080P broadcast in cable or satellite anyway, so the resolution is okay IMO. Or unless you have a Blu-Ray or HD DVD player, that's a different story.See teh following for channel list and broadcast format
http://www.remotecentral.com/hdtv/index.html
A lot of stations are broadcasting at 1080iI think there may be confusion about 1080p and 1080i. The only 1080p source I know of is a computer. Even Blu-Ray/HD-DVD only support 1080i for now (source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p#Availability)).

On the other hand, 1080i content can be deinterlaced to look better on a 1080p screen, similar to the way progressive scan (480p) DVD players can improve the look of 480i DVDs.

[my2sense]

How do Costco returns work? If someone paid $999 for the n3250, and it subsequently drops to $799 or whatever next week, will Costco only refund $799 or the original purchase price?

From my experience, they will refund the original price.

[gmark2000]

From my experience, they will refund the original price.
That's right but you need the original receipt and the product must be complete including cables, manuals and remote (but not necessarily the packaging).

[khattab]

i will DEFINATELY purchase this if the price comes to 1,000!

[StarStrike]

Wow, if this is true then this is an awesome deal :cheesygri

[engo]

wow - this is a great news. I was planning to get a 40" LCD with limited budget. With this deal on, I may pick this up instead. Thanks for the info!!

[PlayItAgain]

Even if you get HDTV you will still see those artifacts. Although they advertise the channels as HD they are really upconverted SD. The only true HD channels that were not upconverted that I have seen are the Rogers HD preview channel and Discovery HD.
It's gonna be a while until all the stations start recording stuff in true HD instead of upconverting, so until then if you have less than 10-15 feet to work with no point buying anything bigger than 32".


I hate to pick on you, but your post is so full of misinformation, I'd hate people to read it and believe it as the truth.

Most primetime shows on the major networks (except reality TV) are HD and definately NOT upconverted SD. On top of that there is an ever growing list of sporting events available in HD (NHL, CFL, Auto racing, NFL, MLB, NBA, etc...). There is a whole slew of new HD channels coming down the pipeline. This includes Oasis HD, Treasure HD Canada, Leafs TV HD, HDNet (can't wait).
On top of that there is CRTC approval for about a dozen new HD channels.

It's just silly to make an argument that it is not worth buying a larger HD TV because high definition content is not there.

As far as viewing distance goes, I beg to differ with you. I have a 50" Pioneer plasma and have no issues watching it from 8 feet away. This includes watching SD, HD, DVD, whatever. In fact, I'd be very disappointed if I had bought a smaller screen size.

[paleo]

I hate to pick on you, but your post is so full of misinformation, I'd hate people to read it and believe it as the truth.

Most primetime shows on the major networks (except reality TV) are HD and definately NOT upconverted SD. On top of that there is an ever growing list of sporting events available in HD (NHL, CFL, Auto racing, NFL, MLB, NBA, etc...). There is a whole slew of new HD channels coming down the pipeline. This includes Oasis HD, Treasure HD Canada, Leafs TV HD, HDNet (can't wait).
On top of that there is CRTC approval for about a dozen new HD channels.

It's just silly to make an argument that it is not worth buying a larger HD TV because high definition content is not there.

As far as viewing distance goes, I beg to differ with you. I have a 50" Pioneer plasma and have no issues watching it from 8 feet away. This includes watching SD, HD, DVD, whatever. In fact, I'd be very disappointed if I had bought a smaller screen size.

50" @ 8 feet is WAY too close IMO. Plasma's are nice tv's, but that's just way too close. You will see some grain at that size.

[johnsa]

I just can't see it..possibly 1299 Cdn but not $1,000 Cdn..

If so I'll take 2!

[one-cheap-guy]

I just can't see it..possibly 1299 Cdn but not $1,000 Cdn..

If so I'll take 2!

The guy showed me the computer at Costco. Same price as 32. But he had no idea when or where they would hit the stores. But there are in the system.

[gmark2000]

The guy showed me the computer at Costco. Same price as 32. But he had no idea when or where they would hit the stores. But there are in the system.
There is the possibility that there is actually an error in the system. As long as this possibility remains, this will be viewed with skepticism until they hit the stores.

[stewie1]

with old SD TV's, there was a point of diminishing returns once the screen got too big. But with HD, you want the biggest screen you can afford.

[novastar]

I agree, it was probably a mistake. Is it possible that someone returned a 37" they bought from the internet and it was put in the system as $999, the price of the 32" because instore they don't sell the 37"?

There is the possibility that there is actually an error in the system. As long as this possibility remains, this will be viewed with skepticism until they hit the stores.

[flaming homer]

Seem to recall a lot of similiar skeptism when the 27" Viewsonic was coming @ $1000....

[airodus]

Hahah, another good excuse to hold off on buying a TV now. Sweet deal.

[jackboot]

I hope this deal will be confirmed, but it seems awfully cheap! Note that there is another thread about the Viewsonic N3252 replacing the N3250 for $999...

It is a bit hard to imagine that within the next 2 months they will replace the N3250 with the newer N3252 at $999 only to drop that price to ~$799 (?) to allow room for the larger N3760 at $999!

I can only imagine the "less than ethical" shoppers who will replace their N3250 with the N3252 with Costco's great return policy and then replace the N3252 with the N3760 shortly thereafter!

[Saca_Saca]

Ok, hold up one sec.
I just returned from Costco (Regina), and a salesman I have dealt with in the past told me the 37" will be around the $1300-$1400 mark come Sept. He also stated that all TV's will see some kind of price drop at around that same time.
The 3250 will drop to around $800 to make way for the 3252 that will be priced at $999.
Most Toshiba TV's will see a $500.00 price cut. The salesman pointed out a Toshiba 50" HD Plasma that was selling for $2499 will be $1999 come late Aug, early Sept.
I would like to add that the salesman volunteered this info to me while I was a potential customer.

[ferkel]

Thats because the flood of 1080p LCD Tv's are coming in August to October.

[GoogleFish]

Ok, hold up one sec.
The salesman pointed out a Toshiba 50" HD Plasma that was selling for $2499 will be $1999 come late Aug, early Sept.


Where is a Toshiba 50" HD Plasma available for $2499?

[riskit]

Hate to bring this up but why should I invest in a LCD that is not HDMI V 1.3 compatible, and well not fully support PlayStation 3 or hi-definition DVD players, A/V receivers features when they come out in 2007. Or is it just better to wait since the price are dropping on a regular bases.


HDMI Licensing this week released a major enhancement of the High-Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI) specification to Version 1.3 which promises higher speeds, higher resolutions and support for new lossless audio standards. Products with the V1.3 standard aren't expected until 2007.

HDMI is a new type of cable connection that is used to transmit digital signals from your cable set top box, DVD player or satellite receiver to your high definition television. Most consumer electronics devices on the market today operate under the V1.1 standard.

The HDMI standard, which was developed by seven major companies (Hitachi, Ltd., Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd. (Panasonic), Royal Philips Electronics, Silicon Image, Inc., Sony Corp., Thomson, Inc. and Toshiba Corp.), and has been adopted by more than 400 makers of consumer electronics and PC products worldwide. Market researcher In-Stat expects 60 million devices featuring HDMI to ship in 2006.

The primary benefit of the HDMI connection is that it transmits uncompressed digital audio and video from video sources to your HDTV and it does so using one cable. One HDMI cable replaces 3 analog video connections for high definition video and up to 6 analog audio connections for high-resolution audio.

The biggest downside of the HDMI specification to date has been the improper implementation of HDCP by manufacturers. HDCP (High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection) is a copy protection scheme, developed by Intel which prevents the unauthorized duplication of digital signals that are sent via HDMI connections.

Over the last year, the Digital Forums have been rife with consumers complain their HDMI devices don't "talk to one another". The result has been consumers are stuck with expensive high definition personal video recorders (HD PVR's) and upconverting DVD players that can't output a digital signal to their HDTV.

In announcing the new specification, the licensing group made no mention of efforts to resolve compatibility issues between manufacturers or penalties for manufacturers who fail to correctly implement the HDMI specification.

HDMI Licensing announced the new HDMI 1.3 specification will more than doubles HDMI’s bandwidth and adds support for Deep Color technology, a broader color space, new digital audio formats, automatic audio/video synching capability (“lip sync”), and an optional smaller connector for use with personal photo and video devices. More importantly for consumers, products implementing the new HDMI specification will be backward compatible with earlier HDMI products.

Deep Color lets HDTVs and other displays go from millions of colors to billions of colors allowing consumers to enjoy unprecedented vividness and accuracy of color on their displays. Deep Color eliminates on-screen color banding, for smooth tonal transitions and subtle gradations between colors. It enables increased contrast ratio, and can represent many times more shades of gray between black and white.

Availability

The Sony Playstation 3, which is scheduled to ship in November 2006, is expected be the first source product to implement HDMI V1.3, however, the bulk of HDMI V1.3 devices such such as hi-definition DVD players, A/V receivers and HDTV's aren't expected to follow until 2007.

Consumers who are waiting for products that incorporate the new specification may have some difficulty finding them, however, since the licensing organization is not requiring manufacturers to specify what version of HDMI a particular product supports. In an overview, the group simply says that "Consumers should not look for a particular version of HDMI, but rather for the functionality that they want the device to support (Deep Color, specific audio formats, etc.).”

Digital Home recommends that if you are waiting to purchase an HDMI V1.3 device, you confirm V1.3 compatibility from the manufacturer’s website or discuss with other potential buyers in our Digital Forums.

Features

The organization says HDMI 1.3 will include the following new features:

Higher speed: HDMI 1.3 increases its single-link bandwidth from 165MHz (4.95 gigabits per second) to 340 MHz (10.2 Gbps) to support the demands of future high definition display devices, such as higher resolutions, Deep Color and high frame rates. In addition, built into the HDMI 1.3 specification is the technical foundation that will let future versions of HDMI reach significantly higher speeds.

Deep Color: HDMI 1.3 supports 30-bit, 36-bit and 48-bit (RGB or YCbCr) color depths, up from the 24-bit depths in previous versions of the HDMI specification.


Lets HDTVs and other displays go from million of colors to billions of colors.
Eliminates on-screen color banding, for smooth tonal transitions and subtle gradations between colors.
Enables increased contrast ratio
Can represent many times more shades of gray between black and white
At 30-bit pixel depth, a four times improvement would be the minimum, and the typical improvement would be eight times or more.

Broader color space: HDMI 1.3 removes all limits on color selection

Next-generation “xvYCC” color space supports 1.8 times as many colors as existing HDTV signals
Lets HDTVs display colors more accurately
Enables displays with natural, vivid colors

New mini connector: With small portable devices such as HD camcorders and still cameras demanding seamless connectivity to HDTVs, HDMI 1.3 offers a new, smaller form factor connector option (see image below).

Lip Sync: Because consumer electronics devices are using increasingly complex digital signal processing to enhance the clarity and detail of the content, synchronization of video and audio in user devices has become a greater challenge and could potentially require complex end-user adjustments. HDMI 1.3 incorporates an automatic video/audio synching capability that allows devices to perform this synchronization automatically with total accuracy.

New lossless audio formats: In addition to HDMI’s current ability to support high-bandwidth uncompressed digital audio and all currently-available compressed formats (such as Dolby Digital and DTS), HDMI 1.3 adds additional support for new, lossless compressed digital audio formats Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD.

http://www.digitalhomecanada.com/content/view/1344/51/1/0/

[goofball]

The 3250 will drop to around $800 to make way for the 3252 that will be priced at $999.


The N3252W is already 999. The N3250W was 849 at the Costco I was at today.

[riskit]

The N3252W is already 999. The N3250W was 849 at the Costco I was at today.

I was at Costco in Laval Qc and it was still at $999.99 for the N3250w they had appox 3 left

[Saca_Saca]

Where is a Toshiba 50" HD Plasma available for $2499?
Sorry, could have been the 42" not the 50".

[Saca_Saca]

The N3252W is already 999. The N3250W was 849 at the Costco I was at today.

From what I understood, the n3252 will be replacing the n3250 and the price will remain at $999.00...more features same price.
They are also bringing in the n3760 at around $1400, a $300 drop from the current listed price.
When you will see it depend on how fast each store sells off their discontinued stock.

[GYR8]

Ok Everyone I have read all the posts in this thread and I am once again going to be honest (within the paramaters that I feel I am allowed to be because I work for Costco and I have to be careful with what I say).

The *ONLY* piece of accurate information in this thread (about products at Costco) is that the N3252W is replacing or has replaced the N3250W.

The rest of what you are all reading is pure speculation. There is absolutely ZERO indication that a 37" TV will be $1000 in September. Whoever said that was just guessing.

Not to be a party-pooper, but I would recommend this thread be locked until there is more evidence that this discussion is actually valid. I promise you all that once I see any $1000 37" tv show up at my store I will let you know.

Thanks for your time,
GYR8

[lubmar]

So what are your GYR8 "pure speculation" about the price dropping in September for TV's in costco ?

[GYR8]

So what are your GYR8 "pure speculation" about the price dropping in September for TV's in costco ?

I can tell you that there I have no idea what the prices will be in September. The person (at Costco) who suggested this was making a guess. Based on what I have seen, our inventory system shows no information regarding the prices of any products ahead of time, except for usually a 'day before' price change.

GYR8

[mangotango]

St.Catharines store has 10 3250's left with about 24 of the new 3252's on the shelf. They won't sell the new, till the old are sold out. The new ones will in fact be $999 .

[gumby]

The guy showed me the computer at Costco. Same price as 32. But he had no idea when or where they would hit the stores. But there are in the system.

I can confirm this too. The model is N3752W (not N3760W)and it's not listed on Viewsonic's web site yet, just like this current model N3252W that just came in to some Costco stores that wasn't released by Viewsonic until recently. The price is listed as $999 but no other info as to when it is available. I guess we can wait and see :)

[dvdvideo]

Hmmm....two people say it's true and one says it's baloney.

I hope it is true.....

[QuadESL63]

Hmmm....two people say it's true and one says it's baloney.

I hope it is true.....

:D :D :D

I'm going to wait a little bit to see what happen (or may be by that time BB will start selling the Westinghouse 1080p 32" and 37")... not that I need a 32" immediately anyway although it is tempting.

[jiffylube1024]

Hate to bring this up but why should I invest in a LCD that is not HDMI V 1.3 compatible, and well not fully support PlayStation 3 or hi-definition DVD players, A/V receivers features when they come out in 2007. Or is it just better to wait since the price are dropping on a regular bases.

You really shouldn't worry too much about that. HDMI 1.3 supports 1080p properly (HDMI 1.1 technically only has bandwidth and proper support for up to 1080i, I think).

Since this LCD-TV (like pretty much all under 40") is only 1366x768, you don't need the 1080p support for PS2. Not to mention the fact that the difference between 720p and 1080p is nothing significant on displays under 50". True, the "screen-door effect" can be a drag on some LCD screens, and having smaller pixels helps.

The other HDMI 1.3 features (the new Dolby and DTS standard) should still work fine with an HDMI 1.1 TV! Simply connect the HDMI connector to the A/V receiver, which does the sound decoding, then connect that to the television. Remember, all you need to pass to the TV is the video signal - the receiver will decode the sound.

[cannon_fodder]

:D :D :D

I'm going to wait a little bit to see what happen (or may be by that time BB will start selling the Westinghouse 1080p 32" and 37")... not that I need a 32" immediately anyway although it is tempting.

You're halfway there... BB sells the 37" 1080p unit.

[SuSHi]

I can tell you that there I have no idea what the prices will be in September. The person (at Costco) who suggested this was making a guess. Based on what I have seen, our inventory system shows no information regarding the prices of any products ahead of time, except for usually a 'day before' price change.

GYR8

i'm going to have to go with the other guys

2 views from 2 different places

maybe you're not looking in the right place, or you don't have access to that information

[GYR8]

i'm going to have to go with the other guys

2 views from 2 different places

maybe you're not looking in the right place, or you don't have access to that information

SuSHi, I *work* for Costco. I have access to pretty much every piece of information in the inventory system. What I can tell you is that yes, eventually there will be a Viewsonic 37" tv available at some/maybe all Costco locations. As far as the price goes, yes I have seen it, however I can't mention it because there is no guarantee that the price in the system is accurate, because there is no product in stock yet.

My main point from before was that there is no information in the system that indicates anything about *September* being the arrival date for these tvs. If a sales person says this, they are pretty much just guessing.

To put it this into perspective for anyone that thinks I am incorrect, then consider the other thread about the N3252W and people who can't even buy this model yet because some locations still have the older N3250W model. It's quite possible that it will be September before these locations put the N3252W on the floor. So how is it possible for Costco to bring in a 37" model in September? My guess is that this tv will not be available for a *long* time.

Thanks for your time,
GYR8

[jackboot]

i'm going to have to go with the other guys

2 views from 2 different places

maybe you're not looking in the right place, or you don't have access to that information

LOL we would all like to believe that this LCD will be priced at $999...Unfortunately I think we should be happy with the N3252 at $999 for now. I find it impossible to believe that a good quality 37" LCD will be under $1k this September. Maybe September 2007:)

[SuSHi]

LOL we would all like to believe that this LCD will be priced at $999...Unfortunately I think we should be happy with the N3252 at $999 for now. I find it impossible to believe that a good quality 37" LCD will be under $1k this September. Maybe September 2007:)

yeah that's pretty much what i was getting at

[good deal bc]

Wow, almost 100 posts and it is not even for sale yet

[auto-m8]

I talked with a Costco tv department associate about the 1000.00 monitor.
He laughed and said not much of a chance of that happening this year.
Lists on the web site for more than 1700.00 and not to expect a 700.00 discount !!

"Given enough time and imagination, a small house fly can easily become a giant flying dragon.............."

[blainehamilton]

I work as an HP market rep at Costco here in edmonton 3 to 5 days a week. I will let you know if I see anything.

Any words on the size of this unit. I would love to squeeze a 37" lcd in my wall unit instead of a 34" crt I have been humming and hawing over for 2 years...

[DISH]

Can't we buy now and price match it when the price is dropped to $1k ?

[prod]

I can confirm this too. The model is N3752W (not N3760W)and it's not listed on Viewsonic's web site yet, just like this current model N3252W that just came in to some Costco stores that wasn't released by Viewsonic until recently. The price is listed as $999 but no other info as to when it is available. I guess we can wait and see :)

This sounds like the reason for all the confusion. It is likely that a typo has been entered into the system, and the 3252 at $999 has been confused with a model 3752 that may not even exist.

[jackboot]

Maybe the $999 price point this fall is a possibility, judging from the American price: LINK (http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4759189?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG)

[SuSHi]

Maybe the $999 price point this fall is a possibility, judging from the American price: LINK (http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4759189?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG)

it's promising!

[watermelon]

Maybe the $999 price point this fall is a possibility, judging from the American price: LINK (http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4759189?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG)

The 32" 3260W is listed on the same site for $999 AR, is this a price error on the 37" at $899? (The 27" is $849)

[Cas77]

Maybe the $999 price point this fall is a possibility, judging from the American price: LINK (http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4759189?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG)

There's also a $200 discount at Costco.com

I worked at Costco for 7 years and have friends who have since transfered to purchasing in Head Office and I'm pretty confident this deal could happen. Suppliers guarantee prices WELL ahead of time. All price decreases are set by manufacturers and retailers know about them ahead of time. The Costco buyer probably bought these at a retail trade show when there was still snow on the ground. They were guaranteed price x for y units...they didn't know the specs and model then...but they knew they were buying 37in Viewsonics.

[gmark2000]

Can't we buy now and price match it when the price is dropped to $1k ?
I got one a month ago and I plan to price match (or return) once the price drops. I'm not entirely satisfied with the SD digital cable (s-video) upconverted to component cable through my TiVo but it's not the fault of the TV. ATSC HD broadcasts are awesome, especially PBS HD. I haven't yet tried hooking up my laptop through the HDMI (converted from DVI-D).

[gulu23]

To put it this into perspective for anyone that thinks I am incorrect, then consider the other thread about the N3252W and people who can't even buy this model yet because some locations still have the older N3250W model. It's quite possible that it will be September before these locations put the N3252W on the floor. So how is it possible for Costco to bring in a 37" model in September? My guess is that this tv will not be available for a *long* time.

Thanks for your time,
GYR8

Just an FYI, Costco Regina is selling N3252W and N3250W, both at $999. They are available on the rack at the same time. I returned my N3250W that I bought in April 2006 for the N3252W. If I didn't play close enough attention (and did not know the HUGE difference in the models), I could have picked up the wrong box. We are all guessing, but September (maybe in a larger center) - October (in Regina) will be the rollout for the 37" ViewSonics @ $999.

[embguy]

We are all guessing, but September (maybe in a larger center) - October (in Regina) will be the rollout for the 37" ViewSonics @ $999.It will be fun to watch ppl returning the old models and buying the new model. RFDer will eventually force the Costco to rethink its return policy...

There are lots of examples... to name a few... Staples changed the 150% PM to 110%... Western Digital changed the loyalty program... MemberWorks changed to the + program with maximum 5 GC per month...

[CKY350]

I've got 5 in stock for 1550$ + taxes and shipping 65$ (puro)

PM me if interrested.

[Rometiklan]

Viewsonic W3760 for $999, eh? Waiting is a b*tch.

[blainehamilton]

Had the associates at Edmonton West Costco check the system, it is there and the the price does show at $999. Gonna be interesting if it is for real. If not by the second week of october, I'm traveling to the US anyways, maybe I can pick one up there...

[jackboot]

Had the associates at Edmonton West Costco check the system, it is there and the the price does show at $999. Gonna be interesting if it is for real. If not by the second week of october, I'm traveling to the US anyways, maybe I can pick one up there...

If you're heading to the USA, check out the new Visio 42" LCD at Costco. I just bought one for $1299 USD. What a bargain for a great LCD, especially since it is from Costco! Costco will accept returns / price adjustments from purchases at US warehouses.

[SuSHi]

Had the associates at Edmonton West Costco check the system, it is there and the the price does show at $999. Gonna be interesting if it is for real. If not by the second week of october, I'm traveling to the US anyways, maybe I can pick one up there...

god, tough choice, buy it before i leave the country for 3 months but enjoy it for a month or so, or wait till after, and possibly more price drops

[vipernig]

Is there really a huge difference between the 3250 and the 3252 and if so what are they. No dont tell me about the specs but about your experiences with both TVs. Is SD cable better on one, is the black better, interfacebetter , what?

[cannon_fodder]

The 32" 3260W is listed on the same site for $999 AR, is this a price error on the 37" at $899? (The 27" is $849)

There is also an Emprex 37" at $899 that states it is a 1080p panel but threads at AVSForum suggest that is not as good as it sounds.

[Acuratl]

There is also an Emprex 37" at $899 that states it is a 1080p panel but threads at AVSForum suggest that is not as good as it sounds.

digimate>>

[blainehamilton]

My options are limited a bit by size, as much as I would like to go with a 42" to 50", we have a nice new wall unit worth $750...

Never buy your furniture before the tv!

[gewain]

Any updates on stock, availability and price on this yet? At my local Costco in Winnipeg they said they didn't know anything about it.

[Vitalogy]

According to my friend at work, they now have this TV available at Costco in Kelowna for 999.99. I'll be stopping by after work to verify and possibly purchase. Will let you know if it's true.

[SomeGuyyyyyy]

According to my friend at work, they now have this TV available at Costco in Kelowna for 999.99. I'll be stopping by after work to verify and possibly purchase. Will let you know if it's true.

When these go on sale at one location, is it typically in effect at all other stores? or is it dependent on each store when things go on sale?

[Acuratl]

still seems a bit surreal, 700$ price drop!

[SuSHi]

still seems a bit surreal, 700$ price drop!

it's not really a price drop

it's more like 26" gets phased out, the 32" becomes the new 26" and the 37" becomes the new 32"

if they're out for $999.99 by the end of this month i'm getting one for sure

[Acuratl]

it's not really a price drop

it's more like 26" gets phased out, the 32" becomes the new 26" and the 37" becomes the new 32"

if they're out for $999.99 by the end of this month i'm getting one for sure

:| so we will be seeing 1,000 inch tv's eventually? :cheesygri

[Rosico]

According to my friend at work, they now have this TV available at Costco in Kelowna for 999.99. I'll be stopping by after work to verify and possibly purchase. Will let you know if it's true.

please do!

[Beradon]

still seems a bit surreal, 700$ price drop!
There was several new articles about this. Seems to be excess inventory of lcd panels as they overestimated demand. Now they need to sell off all these stock as manufacturer warehouses are filling up.

[T3rry]

I was just at the NW costco in calgary and they had the 32 still for $1000, though i didn't check which version, i will be keepign an eye out for sure.

[flamenko]

Looking at getting a 37" or larger plasma/LCD at a great price so I have been watching this article closely.

Just was on the line with first, my local costco at St Catharines (East branch) then Burlington (West branch) then a representative for their national sales after checking their site out.

All have stated that there are no immediate sales on this Viewsonic in Costco for 1000 and all have further stated that there are no planned sales for this model at 1000. The National associate chuckled when I stated this and said he had heard of this forum...

He said that, if someone got it...good for them it was a mistake.

In addition, I also learned that if someone finds it advertised...they will honour it it any costco across Canada....Does anyone have an advertisement????

Dont get in a knot...Im not discrediting anyone....just relating what I learned... kinda reminds me of all those free-to-air guys awaiting the pasat fix.

[flamenko]

If anyone can get me a 37" LCD with HDTV and decent resolution IN CANADA for 1000 or less...please please let me knoiw as I have worked my butt off looking...and so far I see my best option is to cross the border...

[Acuratl]

If anyone can get me a 37" LCD with HDTV and decent resolution IN CANADA for 1000 or less...please please let me knoiw as I have worked my butt off looking...and so far I see my best option is to cross the border...


i got the DIGIMATE 37 inch LCD 1080p screen for 999 at FUTURESHOP, technically 800 after gift certs :D im sure their may be some sellers in toronto?!

[yugiohm3]

Well, Costco in US selling the unit for $1200 after rebate now. I remember seeing it selling for $999 before >.< !!

Guess $1000 wouldn't be coming to Cdn anytime soon.

[ScoFF]

You get what you pay for.
Every time I go and look at the Digimate I promise I'd save for a better brand.



If anyone can get me a 37" LCD with HDTV and decent resolution IN CANADA for 1000 or less...please please let me knoiw as I have worked my butt off looking...and so far I see my best option is to cross the border...

[Beradon]

You get what you pay for.
Every time I go and look at the Digimate I promise I'd save for a better brand.lol that's a good one.
reminds me of an lcd tv I saw at tigerdirect called "kolin".

[braxton]

You get what you pay for.
Every time I go and look at the Digimate I promise I'd save for a better brand.

I was skeptical too seeing it in the store @ FS- never seemed to look that great no matter what I set the settings to- looked quite bad actually.

Decided to pick one up anyway based on user reviews at this site and digitalhomecanada and I was not disappointed.
HD looks incredible@ full 1920X1080p, through DVI from my htpc.
HD through component (expressvu) is not as vibrant, but still beautiful.
SD also looks fine- considering it uses DCDi by faroudja

Had this set for about 8 months now and everyone that has seen it is very impressed, especially when they find out what it costs.

I suggest bringing a laptop that supports 1920X1080 to the store and hooking it up to the digimate tv via vga, and then play a DVD or better yet an HD clip. Do the same to a panasonic/samsung/whatever (all of which will be 1366X768 res) and compare. I think you will find that this TV isn't that bad.
It does have some downfalls- no HDMI and who knows about warranty support, but at least my visa covers it fully for 2 years.

I think for $999, you can't beat it. At it's current $1499, there may be some better options- dunno.

[jackboot]

I'm kinda regretting not getting this TV for $800 after GCs:(

I bought a Vizio 42" LCD from Costco in the US for $1299 USD last week. It looks great and I the size is perfect for me but I'm having big trouble getting it to play nice with my HTPC. It only has 1366x768 and HDMI so I'm wondering if I'll actually be able to obtain native resolution on it via my DVI port.

It will certainly be nice when these oddball resolution 1366x768 displays are no longer the norm and are replaced by 1080p displays which will work perfectly with HTPCs.

[Acuratl]

I'm kinda regretting not getting this TV for $800 after GCs:(

I bought a Vizio 42" LCD from Costco in the US for $1299 USD last week. It looks great and I the size is perfect for me but I'm having big trouble getting it to play nice with my HTPC. It only has 1366x768 and HDMI so I'm wondering if I'll actually be able to obtain native resolution on it via my DVI port.

It will certainly be nice when these oddball resolution 1366x768 displays are no longer the norm and are replaced by 1080p displays which will work perfectly with HTPCs.

by getting this you mean the digimate right? Ya im kinda stunned that this beast only costed me 800 after GC's + taxes, my friends gasp at that price XD

[jackboot]

by getting this you mean the digimate right? Ya im kinda stunned that this beast only costed me 800 after GC's + taxes, my friends gasp at that price XD

Whoops yeah I guess I'm in the wrong thread lol. I was referring to the 37" 1080p Digimate. For 800 bucks it was an absolute steal even if it is a "lower quality" display.

[Acuratl]

Whoops yeah I guess I'm in the wrong thread lol. I was referring to the 37" 1080p Digimate. For 800 bucks it was an absolute steal even if it is a "lower quality" display.


well it really depends, the quality is really not that bad, maybe even up to par with the viewsonics!

[amandathepilot]

Hey,
So I know this shows my lack of knowledge, but can anyone help me out in setting up my Viewsonic LCD to work as an external monitor for my Toshiba laptop? I have it plugged in and I have no idea what settings to change on the TV or lappy to make it work.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

[jackboot]

well it really depends, the quality is really not that bad, maybe even up to par with the viewsonics!

Yeah that's what I meant by putting it in quotation marks...I haven't personally seen it, but even if it is a lower quality brand, it is still LCD technology which is going to look pretty darn good no matter what. So the Panasonic or Sony might look 10 or 20% better at best...not worth paying 200% more for IMO!

[Acuratl]

I was skeptical too seeing it in the store @ FS- never seemed to look that great no matter what I set the settings to- looked quite bad actually.

Decided to pick one up anyway based on user reviews at this site and digitalhomecanada and I was not disappointed.
HD looks incredible@ full 1920X1080p, through DVI from my htpc.
HD through component (expressvu) is not as vibrant, but still beautiful.
SD also looks fine- considering it uses DCDi by faroudja

Had this set for about 8 months now and everyone that has seen it is very impressed, especially when they find out what it costs.

I suggest bringing a laptop that supports 1920X1080 to the store and hooking it up to the digimate tv via vga, and then play a DVD or better yet an HD clip. Do the same to a panasonic/samsung/whatever (all of which will be 1366X768 res) and compare. I think you will find that this TV isn't that bad.
It does have some downfalls- no HDMI and who knows about warranty support, but at least my visa covers it fully for 2 years.

I think for $999, you can't beat it. At it's current $1499, there may be some better options- dunno.

PM'd ya!

[shneebs]

I was skeptical too seeing it in the store @ FS- never seemed to look that great no matter what I set the settings to- looked quite bad actually.

Decided to pick one up anyway based on user reviews at this site and digitalhomecanada and I was not disappointed.
HD looks incredible@ full 1920X1080p, through DVI from my htpc.
HD through component (expressvu) is not as vibrant, but still beautiful.
SD also looks fine- considering it uses DCDi by faroudja

Had this set for about 8 months now and everyone that has seen it is very impressed, especially when they find out what it costs.

I suggest bringing a laptop that supports 1920X1080 to the store and hooking it up to the digimate tv via vga, and then play a DVD or better yet an HD clip. Do the same to a panasonic/samsung/whatever (all of which will be 1366X768 res) and compare. I think you will find that this TV isn't that bad.
It does have some downfalls- no HDMI and who knows about warranty support, but at least my visa covers it fully for 2 years.

I think for $999, you can't beat it. At it's current $1499, there may be some better options- dunno.I was skeptical when I read this re: stated resolution... Futureshop website says 1366 x 768 resolution. So, I just checked the DigitalHome.ca forums, and there is quite the discussion there which seems to point to the fact that this 37" Digimate is in fact a 1080p screen... details here: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=36808 and link to manufacturer website here: http://www.emiglobal.com/lcd/dgl37.html

Shneebs.

[brunes]

I think there may be confusion about 1080p and 1080i. The only 1080p source I know of is a computer. Even Blu-Ray/HD-DVD only support 1080i for now (source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p#Availability)).

On the other hand, 1080i content can be deinterlaced to look better on a 1080p screen, similar to the way progressive scan (480p) DVD players can improve the look of 480i DVDs.
The HDDVD and Blu-Ray specs both support 1080p. Some current players don't output it yet but they will soon.

IMO spending > $1000 on a TV that *does not* do 1080p right now is silly. By the middle of next year *all* the sets will be doing 1080p. And what about in 2 years time when you *want* that 108-p on your new HD-DVD player that has dropped to $199 in price? You're going to have to buy another $1000+ TV.

You're just making your TV obsolete faster.

[sdzbwxp]

The HDDVD and Blu-Ray specs both support 1080p. Some current players don't output it yet but they will soon.

IMO spending > $1000 on a TV that *does not* do 1080p right now is silly. By the middle of next year *all* the sets will be doing 1080p. And what about in 2 years time when you *want* that 108-p on your new HD-DVD player that has dropped to $199 in price? You're going to have to buy another $1000+ TV.

You're just making your TV obsolete faster.


It won't be as quick as you think. I think it is silly to spend $1000 more now on TV just to get 1080P. There might be HD DVDs by next year in Video stores, but they won't be cheap. Majority of people won't throw out their regular DVD player yet, so, HD DVDs are for those who are willing to pay a premium price. Other than DVDs, i can't think of any other source you can take advantage of the 1080P. All HD cable boxes or satelite receivers are only doing 720P or 1080i. I would say that it will be at least another 2 to 3 years for HD DVDs to come down to an reasonable price, and 5 years for it to get cheap.......but, by the time then, 70' HD televisions would be under $2000, and it would support 2160P....

[Acuratl]

I was skeptical when I read this re: stated resolution... Futureshop website says 1366 x 768 resolution. So, I just checked the DigitalHome.ca forums, and there is quite the discussion there which seems to point to the fact that this 37" Digimate is in fact a 1080p screen... details here: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=36808 and link to manufacturer website here: http://www.emiglobal.com/lcd/dgl37.html

Shneebs.


hey, did you get ur DVI port working?

Acuratl

[shneebs]

hey, did you get ur DVI port working?

AcuratlAre you asking me? I don't even own this TV! lol...

Shneebs.

[QuadESL63]

It won't be as quick as you think. I think it is silly to spend $1000 more now on TV just to get 1080P. There might be HD DVDs by next year in Video stores, but they won't be cheap. Majority of people won't throw out their regular DVD player yet, so, HD DVDs are for those who are willing to pay a premium price. Other than DVDs, i can't think of any other source you can take advantage of the 1080P. All HD cable boxes or satelite receivers are only doing 720P or 1080i. I would say that it will be at least another 2 to 3 years for HD DVDs to come down to an reasonable price, and 5 years for it to get cheap.......but, by the time then, 70' HD televisions would be under $2000, and it would support 2160P....

HD-DVD (and Blu-ray) is here already ;) :lol: Sure, big chain rental like Blockbusters, Rogers, etc. have not carry them yet but some smaller rental places and online rental sites have been renting them out already. New discs can be found online (e.g. amazon.ca) and in FS/BB. Yes, they are niche market products at the moment for videophiles, but since a lot of people are buying into "big screen TVs" at the moment it may have a faster adoption rate than DVD in the mid 90's.

BTW, XBOX 360 supports 1080p and PS3 *should* :razz: supports 1080p as well. The 2nd gen HD-DVD and Blu-ray players will probably support native 1080p contents on the discs (the Toshiba HD-DVD right now can only output 1080i eventhough the discs are mostly 1080p encoded, and the Samsung Blu-ray interlaced the 1080p content on the discs and de-interlace it for the 1080p output :mad: ).

At the end of it is a moving target so you just make up your mind and pay for whatever you "need" when you think you "need" it ;)

[jerryhussain]

The HDDVD and Blu-Ray specs both support 1080p. Some current players don't output it yet but they will soon.

IMO spending > $1000 on a TV that *does not* do 1080p right now is silly. By the middle of next year *all* the sets will be doing 1080p. And what about in 2 years time when you *want* that 108-p on your new HD-DVD player that has dropped to $199 in price? You're going to have to buy another $1000+ TV.

You're just making your TV obsolete faster.
But isnt there no difference in PQ between 720p & 1080p for TVs below 42"?

[jradic]

BTW, XBOX 360 supports 1080p and PS3 *should*

From everything I have read, I believe the 360 does not support 1080p.

[SuSHi]

HD-DVD (and Blu-ray) is here already ;) :lol: Sure, big chain rental like Blockbusters, Rogers, etc. have not carry them yet but some smaller rental places and online rental sites have been renting them out already. New discs can be found online (e.g. amazon.ca) and in FS/BB. Yes, they are niche market products at the moment for videophiles, but since a lot of people are buying into "big screen TVs" at the moment it may have a faster adoption rate than DVD in the mid 90's.

BTW, XBOX 360 supports 1080p and PS3 *should* :razz: supports 1080p as well. The 2nd gen HD-DVD and Blu-ray players will probably support native 1080p contents on the discs (the Toshiba HD-DVD right now can only output 1080i eventhough the discs are mostly 1080p encoded, and the Samsung Blu-ray interlaced the 1080p content on the discs and de-interlace it for the 1080p output :mad: ).

At the end of it is a moving target so you just make up your mind and pay for whatever you "need" when you think you "need" it ;)

xbox 360 doesn't and ps3 is supposed to but don't be surprised if it gets pulled

[SomeGuyyyyyy]

Any updates on the deal?

[shiny]

They are available at any costco ------------------------------------------------------------------------------















































Just kidding :cheesygri

[kendorama]

funnny guy

[Acuratl]

funnny guy


+1 ban

[ChangMai]

+1 ban
HAHAHA ..do it!

[Beradon]

From everything I have read, I believe the 360 does not support 1080p.But that doesn't help since the 360 can't play hd-dvd or blu-ray discs.

[Mad.Whack]

But isnt there no difference in PQ between 720p & 1080p for TVs below 42"?

YES!

Let me even add more from what I've read on HD-PLAYERS:

There is little (if any) image quality difference between HD vs DVD on TV <42''.

[QuadESL63]

xbox 360 doesn't and ps3 is supposed to but don't be surprised if it gets pulled

Sorry, I mean 1080i.

BTW, MS is working on a HD-DVD add-on drive so it should be able to play HD-DVDs in the future.

[ScoFF]

What are GC's? Gift certificates?
I'm confused why people are mentioning it as if it's part of the deal, isn't it just money added to a FS card? Are they giving $200 bucks out for free if you buy a tv or something?
I'm missing something.



by getting this you mean the digimate right? Ya im kinda stunned that this beast only costed me 800 after GC's + taxes, my friends gasp at that price XD

[kuba]

Thnx for the heads-up OP.... :D

Much appreciated......


Only 10 user reviews, but you may want to check them
out in any event.......

NewEgg - End User Reviews (http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustRatingReview.asp?Item=N82E16889116004)


...............................................

i love newegg, get most of my stuff from there.
<3

on a sidenote, ****, some of you guys have a lot of coin to be spending it on these $1000 units, plus the other "hot deals"...dang...
parents rich???

[Acuratl]

What are GC's? Gift certificates?
I'm confused why people are mentioning it as if it's part of the deal, isn't it just money added to a FS card? Are they giving $200 bucks out for free if you buy a tv or something?
I'm missing something.


search GC and u will find a thread!

[ChangMai]

i love newegg, get most of my stuff from there.
<3

on a sidenote, ****, some of you guys have a lot of coin to be spending it on these $1000 units, plus the other "hot deals"...dang...
parents rich???


i think most people here are 20+, not young teenagers
If its a good deal, people have ways of justifying their purchases. If this TV does drop to a $1000 at the end of this year, i'm buying it right away

[Aske001]

search GC and u will find a thread!

It's not that easy to find (well, actually it's easier now since I see that someone has bumped up the Memberworks GC thread). This seems to be a members-only service that sells you gift cards for various stores with a 20% rebate. The catch is that there's an annual membership fee, and you have to buy quite a bit for this to make sense. Users of this service please correct me if I'm wrong!

[Woah!]

i love newegg, get most of my stuff from there.
<3

on a sidenote, ****, some of you guys have a lot of coin to be spending it on these $1000 units, plus the other "hot deals"...dang...
parents rich???

No,I don't have rich parents.
But,my wife & I are considered "DINK's". ;)
Double Income,No Kids.
:lol:

[SuSHi]

i love newegg, get most of my stuff from there.
<3

on a sidenote, ****, some of you guys have a lot of coin to be spending it on these $1000 units, plus the other "hot deals"...dang...
parents rich???

wow you need to learn the value of a dollar

that's less than half of a semester of post secondary

[hardcoredummy]

i love newegg, get most of my stuff from there.
<3

on a sidenote, ****, some of you guys have a lot of coin to be spending it on these $1000 units, plus the other "hot deals"...dang...
parents rich???

Or perhaps people aren't as poor as you?

[Acuratl]

wow you need to learn the value of a dollar

that's less than half of a semester of post secondary


RFD saves us all money, the rest it makes us poor by making us by useless **** ;)

[RDog]

Newegg ships to Canada?? I thought they didn't...


i love newegg, get most of my stuff from there.
<3

on a sidenote, ****, some of you guys have a lot of coin to be spending it on these $1000 units, plus the other "hot deals"...dang...
parents rich???

[Haz]

Newegg ships to Canada?? I thought they didn't...Probably has a US mailing address or an Amerifriend. Not that hard to get a mailbox at Point Roberts or something.

[Rammy]

Ok guys let's get back on topic

Any updates on this TV?

My costco has the latest 32" model and a few 27" left..But no 37". When is it going down :D?

[Ch28]

Ok guys let's get back on topic

Any updates on this TV?

My costco has the latest 32" model and a few 27" left..But no 37". When is it going down :D?

Anywhere from September - October

If you want the good deal then you're going to have to wait ;)

[QuadESL63]

parents rich???

This is not just for teenagers looking for deals, right? :lol: :D My wife and I both have good jobs, no kid and the mortgage is almost done ;) I can afford a toy or two once in a while, can't I? ;)

I'm holding off until this 37" is available. I really want to see if it is $999.99 or not :lol: If not I will go for the 37" 1080p Acer...

[rollen]

doesnt the 37" have worst specs than the current N3252w (32")? I recently purchased the latter and am wondering if its worth it...

[SuSHi]

This is not just for teenagers looking for deals, right? :lol: :D My wife and I both have good jobs, no kid and the mortgage is almost done ;) I can afford a toy or two once in a while, can't I? ;)

I'm holding off until this 37" is available. I really want to see if it is $999.99 or not :lol: If not I will go for the 37" 1080p Acer...

what 37" acer?

[jackboot]

what 37" acer?

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=292337

[fl4wless]

So is this set actually going to drop 700 bucks in sept/oct? its avail for 1699 on the costco website. Sorry but i just dont see it happening.

http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290601&whse=BCCA&topnav=&cat=3316&hierPath=79*3316*

[Driftwood]

So is this set actually going to drop 700 bucks in sept/oct? its avail for 1699 on the costco website. Sorry but i just dont see it happening.

http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290601&whse=BCCA&topnav=&cat=3316&hierPath=79*3316*

I think the price on Costco's site is a little old. This TV is about $1390 from a distributor like Tech Data or Ingram Micro. I'm sure Costco gets them cheaper than that, but even at that price, that's a 20% markup for a TV. Margins are never that high for electronics. Viewsonic also has rebates available for employees of resellers, $225 for this TV. After rebate, I'll bet Viewsonic is still making a little bit of profit. So lets say wholesale cost after rebate is $1175, that's not far from the $999 it might drop to in Sept-Oct. Its very possible that it will be that price, manufacturing costs are dropping, supplies are increasing. Good news for us!

[rustysilvia]

I'm sure Costco gets them cheaper than that, but even at that price, that's a 20% markup for a TV. Margins are never that high for electronics.

They are for audio/video stuff, inluding TVs. 20% is actually fairly average for that size lcd.

[SuSHi]

So is this set actually going to drop 700 bucks in sept/oct? its avail for 1699 on the costco website. Sorry but i just dont see it happening.

http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290601&whse=BCCA&topnav=&cat=3316&hierPath=79*3316*

US price has been as low as 899 after rebate, it will happen

if you don't believe we won't let you buy one when it happens

[jerryhussain]

if you don't believe we won't let you buy one when it happens
hehe :twisted:

[fl4wless]

US price has been as low as 899 after rebate, it will happen

if you don't believe we won't let you buy one when it happens


okay :lol:

[CozmikDebris]

Brought back my 3050 for this deal. Now i'm watching my movies on a 20 year old 20 incher, looks like a globe to me after watching the 32in flatscreen for a month. :lol:

Come on uninformed people, buy these so us RFDers can buy the new models. ;)

[blainehamilton]

One of the guys who works in the electronics section mentioned this tv on friday when I was answering some customer's questions about the 32" model.

He said, and I quote: "Did you hear that we are getting the 37" version of this tv in september for the same price?"

Thank goodness the customer walking away did not hear him.

But this is good for us, I'd say this is a fairly firm affirmation.

[jackboot]

One of the guys who works in the electronics section mentioned this tv on friday when I was answering some customer's questions about the 32" model.

He said, and I quote: "Did you hear that we are getting the 37" version of this tv in september for the same price?"

Thank goodness the customer walking away did not hear him.

But this is good for us, I'd say this is a fairly firm affirmation.

He could have "heard" about it on RFD though:)

[Supershyguy]

I think the price on Costco's site is a little old. This TV is about $1390 from a distributor like Tech Data or Ingram Micro. I'm sure Costco gets them cheaper than that, but even at that price, that's a 20% markup for a TV. Margins are never that high for electronics. Viewsonic also has rebates available for employees of resellers, $225 for this TV. After rebate, I'll bet Viewsonic is still making a little bit of profit. So lets say wholesale cost after rebate is $1175, that's not far from the $999 it might drop to in Sept-Oct. Its very possible that it will be that price, manufacturing costs are dropping, supplies are increasing. Good news for us!


lol ya my cost at my supplier is around $1400 also

[SuSHi]

is anywhere else going to be carrying this model? hopefully pricematch and use some GC's to pay for it and save the tax

[SomeGuyyyyyy]

is anywhere else going to be carrying this model? hopefully pricematch and use some GC's to pay for it and save the tax

Staples has it online . . .

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?webid=654506&AffixedCode=WW

[SuSHi]

Staples has it online . . .

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?webid=654506&AffixedCode=WW

boo ya, now that's money

[Ben Doone]

No Surprise OOS in my area

[awestruck]

No Surprise OOS in my area


Same.

[GYR8]

One of the guys who works in the electronics section mentioned this tv on friday when I was answering some customer's questions about the 32" model.

He said, and I quote: "Did you hear that we are getting the 37" version of this tv in september for the same price?"

Thank goodness the customer walking away did not hear him.

But this is good for us, I'd say this is a fairly firm affirmation.

I have to say it again, everyone. This salesperson is *completely* wrong. There are no orders in the system for any store to receive a 37" LCD for $999.99 at this time.

As mentioned, I WILL let you know when there is solid information in regards to this... this means once I see anything like this show up at my store. However, I wouldnt bank on this anytime soon. Just being honest with you guys!

GYR8

[blainehamilton]

Doh. I guess he could be a member of rfd...

It used to be pretty easy to recognize other members of this site: they were always the ones you would run into at Staples trying to 150% PM an item when you went to get your own.

:razz:

[novastar]

Doh. I guess he could be a member of rfd...

It used to be pretty easy to recognize other members of this site: they were always the ones you would run into at Staples trying to 150% PM an item when you went to get your own.

:razz:

...or all the ones sitting together for that LOTR $20 thing (...before all the tickets were $20)

[impostor]

I have to say it again, everyone. This salesperson is *completely* wrong. There are no orders in the system for any store to receive a 37" LCD for $999.99 at this time.

As mentioned, I WILL let you know when there is solid information in regards to this... this means once I see anything like this show up at my store. However, I wouldnt bank on this anytime soon. Just being honest with you guys!

GYR8The operative words being at this time. ;) I'll point out, and I'm sure GYR8 is well aware of this and being extra cautious to cover his a$$, that these are scheduled to appear around September - October at that price level, according to at least 3 other Costco sources from what I've rea in the thread.

[GYR8]

The operative words being at this time. ;) I'll point out, and I'm sure GYR8 is well aware of this and being extra cautious to cover his a$$, that these are scheduled to appear around September - October at that price level, according to at least 3 other Costco sources from what I've rea in the thread.

Here is what I *can* tell you:
-September / October is not going to happen for any 37" tv @ $999 at Costco
-The N3760W is not the model everyone thinks is going to be $999
-The model that *is* going to be carried doesn't even exist yet.
-The "3 other sources" are probably just relaying information that they heard via RFD
-The original source of this supposed September / October arrival date was making an assumption based on the listing that was in the inventory system. They just figured that if something was in the system in August, then that means that it will be 1-2 months until it arrives. That is *not* the case with this item
-Yes, I do have a pretty good idea of when an item like this is going to arrive in stores. No, I can't tell you when that is. Sorry!

GYR8

[hagbard]

:arrowu: 47" Westinghouse for $999. :lol:

[jackboot]

I would love to see Costco carry the Westinghouse monitors...great value and actually work with an HTPC...

[Vinman]

-The N3760W is not the model everyone thinks is going to be $999
-The model that *is* going to be carried doesn't even exist yet.

That's what I thought, something "Costco Exclusive" like a N3752W.

[SuSHi]

Here is what I *can* tell you:
-September / October is not going to happen for any 37" tv @ $999 at Costco
-The N3760W is not the model everyone thinks is going to be $999
-The model that *is* going to be carried doesn't even exist yet.
-The "3 other sources" are probably just relaying information that they heard via RFD
-The original source of this supposed September / October arrival date was making an assumption based on the listing that was in the inventory system. They just figured that if something was in the system in August, then that means that it will be 1-2 months until it arrives. That is *not* the case with this item
-Yes, I do have a pretty good idea of when an item like this is going to arrive in stores. No, I can't tell you when that is. Sorry!

GYR8

you need to stop ruining our discussion... seriously, you're killing the atmosphere, i think most of us would rather not know than know :twisted:

[GYR8]

That's what I thought, something "Costco Exclusive" like a N3752W.

Give the Vinman a prize ;)

GYR8

[GYR8]

you need to stop ruining our discussion... seriously, you're killing the atmosphere, i think most of us would rather not know than know :twisted:

I know, eh? I am nothing but trouble on RFD! Always not making stuff and giving it to all of you straight! It's a cryin' shame I can't pull misinformation out of my bum like those other salespeople :lol:

GYR8

[gumby]

Give the Vinman a prize ;)

GYR8
I
I already mentioned this model a month ago but I guess nobody noticed :cheesygri .

I can confirm this too. The model is N3752W (not N3760W)and it's not listed on Viewsonic's web site yet, just like this current model N3252W that just came in to some Costco stores that wasn't released by Viewsonic until recently. The price is listed as $999 but no other info as to when it is available. I guess we can wait and see :)

So GRY8 you do acknowledge that it is for real and not just SPECULATIONS???

[fl4wless]

Give the Vinman a prize ;)

GYR8


sushi is probably going to cry now!

[SuSHi]

That's what I thought, something "Costco Exclusive" like a N3752W.

that's all we need to know, update the title!!

[torontodragon]

-September / October is not going to happen for any 37" tv @ $999 at Costco


So even though the 3752 :lol: will not be happened in Sept?

[jerryhussain]

Some what relevant ..

http://www.digitimes.com/displays/a20060825VL200.html

"Due to increased competition in the TV market, prices for 37-inch LCD TVs are likely to follow the 32-inch segment's step in 2005 and drop to less than US$800 in the fourth quarter of 2006, sources indicated."

[sanjeev_ifci]

I am not sure about what will happen 37: inch, however Costco now have a Daytek 42" inch plasma for $1597. I own the same for last 7 months and extremly happy with the unit. Can't beat it at this price.

[GYR8]

So GRY8 you do acknowledge that it is for real and not just SPECULATIONS???

Heheh you make it sound like I am on the witness stand in a court of law :lol:

The speculation lies in this whole 'September/October' arrival. Now if anyone came into my store and asked me about this, the answer would be "There are plans in the future to possibly carry a Viewsonic 37" LCD tv for $999.99" I am pretty certain that I wont get into trouble for saying that, seeing as there are already other posts saying that other Costco salespeople told them this.

GYR8

[fl4wless]

I am not sure about what will happen 37: inch, however Costco now have a Daytek 42" inch plasma for $1597. I own the same for last 7 months and extremly happy with the unit. Can't beat it at this price.

which model?

[SuSHi]

Heheh you make it sound like I am on the witness stand in a court of law :lol:

The speculation lies in this whole 'September/October' arrival. Now if anyone came into my store and asked me about this, the answer would be "There are plans in the future to possibly carry a Viewsonic 37" LCD tv for $999.99" I am pretty certain that I wont get into trouble for saying that, seeing as there are already other posts saying that other Costco salespeople told them this.

GYR8

can you get us further discounts???

[sanjeev_ifci]

Deatils about the daytex 42 plasma
Daytek EPT-4211AN
42-in. Plasma Television HDTV
Resolution: 1024 x 768
Aspect Ratio: 16:9

[thailion]

:arrowu: 47" Westinghouse for $999. :lol:

Where is this? Is it the model with the 4.5ms response time?

[bembol]

Where is this? Is it the model with the 4.5ms response time?

It's 6.5ms and it's a joke...!!!

[kool1]

I hope this is coming because the 32" is just a bit too small.

I was thinking 42" Plasma but so long as the side view on these is ok, I may be in big time at the price.

[GYR8]

can you get us further discounts???

SuSHi = Trouble Maker! :lol:

I actually do *not* get any discounts... Just a complimentary membership. Can you imagine how many friends I would make if I *did*? :cheesygri

GYR8

[SuSHi]

any idea if the 3752 will have 1080p support since the 3760 doesn't?

[jerryhussain]

any idea if the 3752 will have 1080p support since the 3760 doesn't?
It wont and I dont have to be a Costco employee to say that. ;)

[babysham]

Has this been confirmed yet?

If not, the title of this thread is very misleading.

[SuSHi]

It wont and I dont have to be a Costco employee to say that. ;)

hmmm tough decision to make now... hdmi vs 1080p support...

[jerryhussain]

hmmm tough decision to make now... hdmi vs 1080p support...
If you do a little bit of reading, for HDTVs that are smaller than 42" (IMO) you wont see much difference between 720p/1080i and 1080p. If you are planning for a larger size TV then paying a premium for 1080p makes sense.

Senior Editor David Katzmaier, reports that the extra sharpness afforded by the 1080p televisions he's seen is noticeable only when watching 1080i sources on a larger screen. Comparing a 50-inch 1080p DLP set to a 50-inch 720p DLP set, for example, he says you'll be hard-pressed to notice more detail with 1080i sources, especially from farther than 8 feet away. Even if you can see the difference, it will be much less obvious than, say, the difference between DVD and 720p HDTV. Of course, performance will vary from set to set, and we'll know more when we have a chance to thoroughly test more 1080p televisions.
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6361600-1.html


But there's a more important issue - can you really see the difference in resolution between 1080i and 1080p? Tests of visual acuity to determine the resolution required of a television transmission system by the BBCs J.O. Drewery and R. Salmon determined that at 9 feet, a 50 inch screen at 720p's resolution will give you all the resolution you can see! At 9 feet, a 56 incher needs 1080i to avoid seeing the pixel structure. If you sit farther or closer, you may need more resolution.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Eye-Candy?-Which-Wins?-1080i-vs-720p--And-What-About-1080p?&id=123148

[StarStrike]

Has this been confirmed yet?

If not, the title of this thread is very misleading.


That's what I want to know as well.

[SuperAho]

If you do a little bit of reading, for HDTVs that are smaller than 42" (IMO) you wont see much difference between 720p/1080i and 1080p. If you are planning for a larger size TV then paying a premium for 1080p makes sense.


http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6361600-1.html



http://ezinearticles.com/?Eye-Candy?-Which-Wins?-1080i-vs-720p--And-What-About-1080p?&id=123148


I find this false. the difference between 720p / 1080i and 1080p are very noticable.

If anyone has been into futureshop or best buy recently, stop by their TV section and compare. All of their HDTV widscreens should be on a 720p loop. Depending on the TV set, some will scale it up to 1080i, while other plays it at 720p.

Now go over the to the Sony XBR they have on display. This should be on 1080p with video taken from their Sony cam-corder (the only thing legitimate source that can do 1080p right now). The difference and notice in detail is obvious. Although both are very good quality. the 1080p signal paired up with Sony's XBR set (also one of the few sets out there that do 1080p) is remarkable, I am not a Sony fanboy (actually, I havent bought a sony product in the last 10 years I remembered) but it shows how 1080p signals can truely be up to this point.

[SuperAho]

Personally I also use a 1080p native panel for my computer use.

comparing to a 720p signal and 720p native panel, 1080 can fit about 1/3 more desktop space and clear text for the same size panel. This does matter less if you are using a TV purely as video content. But more and more of these setups are now turning into multi media centers and hooking it up to a computer. Browsing the internet, reading news, reading text off the screen etc.

[jerryhussain]

I find this false. the difference between 720p / 1080i and 1080p are very noticable.

If anyone has been into futureshop or best buy recently, stop by their TV section and compare. All of their HDTV widscreens should be on a 720p loop. Depending on the TV set, some will scale it up to 1080i, while other plays it at 720p.

Now go over the to the Sony XBR they have on display. This should be on 1080p with video taken from their Sony cam-corder (the only thing legitimate source that can do 1080p right now). The difference and notice in detail is obvious. Although both are very good quality. the 1080p signal paired up with Sony's XBR set (also one of the few sets out there that do 1080p) is remarkable, I am not a Sony fanboy (actually, I havent bought a sony product in the last 10 years I remembered) but it shows how 1080p signals can truely be up to this point.
I dont agree.

Try comparing that XBR set with the any of the HD-DVD titles on display. Even though these HD-DVD titles are 1080p, the Toshiba player is outputting it at 720p/1080i. Even then I think the comparison wouldnt be perfect as you need the same content in different sources to guage the best way possible.

I am by no means an expert but by my own comparisons and what the HT experts say, I dont think 1080p is a premium worth paying for if you are getting an HDTV that is below 42" in size.

[GYR8]

any idea if the 3752 will have 1080p support since the 3760 doesn't?

This model doesnt even exist yet. Try a google search... nothing comes up yet.

GYR8

[taro-chan]

I want....

So basically the trade off is HDMI vs 1080p? Honestly, if I play my xbox 360 on it, will it make much difference?

lol

[avatarx]

I dont agree.

Try comparing that XBR set with the any of the HD-DVD titles on display. Even though these HD-DVD titles are 1080p, the Toshiba player is outputting it at 720p/1080i. Even then I think the comparison wouldnt be perfect as you need the same content in different sources to guage the best way possible.

I am by no means an expert but by my own comparisons and what the HT experts say, I dont think 1080p is a premium worth paying for if you are getting an HDTV that is below 42" in size..

this is correct 1080p on a smaller screen size is not worth the money.

[lubmar]

this is correct 1080p on a smaller screen size is not worth the money.

If You using as a computer screen it could be worth to get 1080p.

[SuSHi]

This model doesnt even exist yet. Try a google search... nothing comes up yet.

GYR8

well apparently these guys know the specs already

[GYR8]

well apparently these guys know the specs already

Which 'guys' are you referring to?

If you go to viewsonic.com and type 'N3752W' into the search window, nothing comes up. If you go to google.com and type in the same term, all you will find is reference to plane parts.

I think there might be one way to find out, but it requires me being at the store to check. Unfortunately, I am on vacation this week :lol:

GYR8

[aidzhsiah]

I want....

So basically the trade off is HDMI vs 1080p? Honestly, if I play my xbox 360 on it, will it make much difference?

lol

Neither will make a difference... since the 360 supports neither :|

[SuSHi]

Which 'guys' are you referring to?

If you go to viewsonic.com and type 'N3752W' into the search window, nothing comes up. If you go to google.com and type in the same term, all you will find is reference to plane parts.

I think there might be one way to find out, but it requires me being at the store to check. Unfortunately, I am on vacation this week :lol:

GYR8

i was being sarcastic

[GYR8]

i was being sarcastic

Oh Man. Sorry about that! You didnt have the > :lol: or the > :cheesygri at the end so I thought maybe I missed a post with the specs somewhere.

Having said that, I will see about the specs once I go back to work. I would imagine they will be similar to the N3760W, but you never know!

GYR8

[SuSHi]

Oh Man. Sorry about that! You didnt have the > :lol: or the > :cheesygri at the end so I thought maybe I missed a post with the specs somewhere.

Having said that, I will see about the specs once I go back to work. I would imagine they will be similar to the N3760W, but you never know!

GYR8

i meant people that were clearly speculating considering there isn't one dot of information about the tv in question available to them

[Bafflebrain]

I find this false. the difference between 720p / 1080i and 1080p are very noticable.

If anyone has been into futureshop or best buy recently, stop by their TV section and compare. All of their HDTV widscreens should be on a 720p loop. Depending on the TV set, some will scale it up to 1080i, while other plays it at 720p.

Now go over the to the Sony XBR they have on display. This should be on 1080p with video taken from their Sony cam-corder (the only thing legitimate source that can do 1080p right now). The difference and notice in detail is obvious. Although both are very good quality. the 1080p signal paired up with Sony's XBR set (also one of the few sets out there that do 1080p) is remarkable, I am not a Sony fanboy (actually, I havent bought a sony product in the last 10 years I remembered) but it shows how 1080p signals can truely be up to this point.


LOL. There is no existing 1080p consumer camcorder on the market, Sony included. What you are seeing is a 1080i HDV camcorder.

The only commercially available 1080p cameras are thoose use by George Lucas (1080p24). I have read about some cinematic camera avail for a mere 300k; which I doubt Future Crap got.

[jerryhussain]

i meant people that were clearly speculating considering there isn't one dot of information about the tv in question available to them
I guess you are referring to me.

I do not know of any Viewsonic models that are 1080p and a 37" LCD that is 1080p for $999 sounds too good to be true.

[gewain]

Asked the electronics rep here in Winnipeg. He says they plan on having the 37" in store in October. Didn't confirm the price but didn't flinch at $999.

[riskit]

Costco Item number for in store pick-up is 109376 for those concerned

Went in store today and the sales rep showed me the price and gave me the item number but their was no date on delivery to the store.

[jerryhussain]

[SIZE=4]Went in store today and the sales rep showed me the price and gave me the item number but their was no date on delivery to the store.
$999 Confirmed?

[slc95]

if it smells like bull****, looks like bull**** and is surrounded by other bull****...I think you see where I'm going with this...

[parimal]

Canon HV10 announced in August is a consumer Camcorder that will do 1920 X 1080..


LOL. There is no existing 1080p consumer camcorder on the market, Sony included. What you are seeing is a 1080i HDV camcorder.

The only commercially available 1080p cameras are thoose use by George Lucas (1080p24). I have read about some cinematic camera avail for a mere 300k; which I doubt Future Crap got.

[Driftwood]

if it smells like bull****, looks like bull**** and is surrounded by other bull****...I think you see where I'm going with this...

If a 42" LG LCD TV can go for $1500, $1000 for a 37" Viewsonic is very possible. Also, don't forget the no name 37" FS had for $999 a while back.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325464&page=1

[riskit]

if it smells like bull****, looks like bull**** and is surrounded by other bull****...I think you see where I'm going with this...


Then take a Bull ride over to your nearest Costco and check out the Item number for yourself.

[SuSHi]

if it smells like bull****, looks like bull**** and is surrounded by other bull****...I think you see where I'm going with this...

pretty much no one cares what you think, thanks for taking the time to waste your time though

[taro-chan]

if it smells like bull****, looks like bull**** and is surrounded by other bull****...I think you see where I'm going with this...
I want my 2 seconds of my life back.

[alleycat8675309]

If this hypothetical? deal comes through, then great. Not so great for RFDer's wallets though. Either way, someone will eat crow (or Bull****). :lol:

[slc95]

wow, anyone else want to jump on the slagwagon? I was merely stating that I find it's unlikely that this item has an item number at Costco and a price yet no one can confirm anywhere that the model exists or even when it will be here.

I don't deny that Costco may eventually get a 37" Viewsonic, even for $999, but all of this is based on pure speculation. If someone can come up with hard, refferenceable data that this is going to hit Costco in the next 2 months at this price, then I'll eat my words.

I'd love to see this as much as anyone else here, but don't jump down my back for being realistic or truthful. This is exactly how the whole free Zakk Wylde Epiphone guitar thing started. Even then, at least there was something that SAID that that deal was legit, even if it never actually materialized.

When GYR8 or any other self declared costco employee can verify this deal, then I'd be happy.

[Vinman]

I have no verifiable info on that specific model, but I have read many articles covering the upcoming 4Q shift towards 37" LCD HDTVs at the mainstream. 37" will slide into the current 32" price/market level, and be targetted as the de facto choice for most buyers.

No way that all those publications are lying, or that the LCD manufacturers quoted are all part of a conspiracy, and given that, I have no doubt of seeing 37" LCDs at current 32" price levels before the end of 2006.

[riskit]

wow, anyone else want to jump on the slagwagon? I was merely stating that I find it's unlikely that this item has an item number at Costco and a price yet no one can confirm anywhere that the model exists or even when it will be here.

I don't deny that Costco may eventually get a 37" Viewsonic, even for $999, but all of this is based on pure speculation. If someone can come up with hard, refferenceable data that this is going to hit Costco in the next 2 months at this price, then I'll eat my words.

I'd love to see this as much as anyone else here, but don't jump down my back for being realistic or truthful. This is exactly how the whole free Zakk Wylde Epiphone guitar thing started. Even then, at least there was something that SAID that that deal was legit, even if it never actually materialized.

When GYR8 or any other self declared costco employee can verify this deal, then I'd be happy.


I was in store making my weekly purchases, when I decided to stop before leaving the store to speak to a CS rep about the Viewsonic 37 LCD since a lot of members have being post comments, and as a members of RFD, I thought that maybe someone might appreciate the Item number for the LCD since it was not post.

So here I am in line at CS for 15 minutes to verify the info and try to get a item number for the LCD, which I am not planning on buying to help out the members of RFD and in return I all I got was you saying this is Bull.

So tell me who is been help full?

Update

I called Costco's General Customer Service and was told that they have received a lot of calls concern this LCD model N372W and are working on supply issues with Viewsonic, that's why their is no date for in store shipping, So we should all sit back and relax until GYR8 gives the members more info since he is being honest..

SuSHi, I *work* for Costco. I have access to pretty much every piece of information in the inventory system. What I can tell you is that yes, eventually there will be a Viewsonic 37" tv available at some/maybe all Costco locations. As far as the price goes, yes I have seen it, however I can't mention it because there is no guarantee that the price in the system is accurate, because there is no product in stock yet.

My main point from before was that there is no information in the system that indicates anything about *September* being the arrival date for these tvs. If a sales person says this, they are pretty much just guessing.

To put it this into perspective for anyone that thinks I am incorrect, then consider the other thread about the N3252W and people who can't even buy this model yet because some locations still have the older N3250W model. It's quite possible that it will be September before these locations put the N3252W on the floor. So how is it possible for Costco to bring in a 37" model in September? My guess is that this tv will not be available for a *long* time.

Thanks for your time,
GYR8
Here is what I *can* tell you:
-September / October is not going to happen for any 37" tv @ $999 at Costco
-The N3760W is not the model everyone thinks is going to be $999
-The model that *is* going to be carried doesn't even exist yet.
-The "3 other sources" are probably just relaying information that they heard via RFD
-The original source of this supposed September / October arrival date was making an assumption based on the listing that was in the inventory system. They just figured that if something was in the system in August, then that means that it will be 1-2 months until it arrives. That is *not* the case with this item
-Yes, I do have a pretty good idea of when an item like this is going to arrive in stores. No, I can't tell you when that is. Sorry!

GYR8

[flaming homer]

pretty much no one cares what you think, thanks for taking the time to waste your time though
Well, it is a better rant the the belgium idiot's anti-Costco postings...

Sigh, 37" LCD, and I don't even need a new TV. Damn you RFD !!!

[globe]

I spoke to a friend who works at the Costco distribution center and he told me that they are getting A LOT of these units on October 26th (or was it 20th?) and that it will be distributed to the stores after that.

The price is going to be $999.

I assume the shipping dates can always change, but this is probably the best information we have gotten to date.

[babysham]

I spoke to a friend who works at the Costco distribution center and he told me that they are getting A LOT of these units on October 26th (or was it 20th?) and that it will be distributed to the stores after that.

The price is going to be $999.

I assume the shipping dates can always change, but this is probably the best information we have gotten to date.

OK, assuming this is true. I just bought the Viewsonic 32" about 2 months ago. Should I return the TV and pick up the new 37"? I have the box, cables, manuals, everything.

What do you guys suggest? Will they even take back the TV?

[SuSHi]

Well, it is a better rant the the belgium idiot's anti-Costco postings...

Sigh, 37" LCD, and I don't even need a new TV. Damn you RFD !!!

i sold my TV a few weeks a ago to maximize the money i get back in preparation for this, that's how much i was buying into the OP

[jon-calgary]

give me your 32" and buy the 37". :D

OK, assuming this is true. I just bought the Viewsonic 32" about 2 months ago. Should I return the TV and pick up the new 37"? I have the box, cables, manuals, everything.

What do you guys suggest? Will they even take back the TV?

[GYR8]

I spoke to a friend who works at the Costco distribution center and he told me that they are getting A LOT of these units on October 26th (or was it 20th?) and that it will be distributed to the stores after that.


;)

[AnitaPeterson]

OK, while we're waiting for an official, definitive answer, feast your mind with these great news:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060831/tc_nm/fair_lgelectronics_dc

LCD TV makers see price cut in 2007

BERLIN (Reuters) - LG Electronics (066570.KS) and Sharp Corp. (6753.T) said on Thursday they expected prices of flat LCD television sets to drop by 20-30 percent or more in 2007 amid overproduction and cost reductions.

"Last year we saw about 30 percent of price reductions for plasma and a little bit more for LCD. Next year, in 2007, we expect about the same," Young Chan Kim, head of global marketing for LG's displays division told journalists at the IFA consumer electronics show.

Katsuhiko Machida, president of Sharp, said he expected a fall closer to 20 percent on average for LCD TVs. "Some segments may drop 30 percent, others only 15 percent," he told Reuters in an interview. "On average we view 20 percent for the market."

Machida said low-resolution TV sets with screen sizes of 40 inches (102 centimetre) and above, measured diagonally, might suffer a 30-percent fall in prices.

"But for full-specification, high-resolution sets -- due to limited supply compared with demand -- we don't see that big a drop," he added.

LG reiterated its goal to become the world's No. 1 display company by 2007. It is currently the second-biggest plasma television producer and the fifth-biggest LCD television set producer, according to market research group DisplaySearch.

LCD and plasma are different flat display technologies, and Kim said he expected the two to co-exist for some time, with plasma targeting the bigger screen sizes of 42 inches and above.

Though plasma TVs of 42 inches were still cheaper than LCD sets, LCD technology was quickly closing the price gap with plasma, he added.

Machida said Sharp expected to regain market share -- which it began losing a year ago because it had insufficient capacity to meet demand -- from October, when Sharp will start selling LCD TVs made with panels from its new plant in Kameyama, Japan.

"Our global market share is around 10 percent. We want to move to 15 percent. We'll be able to achieve 15 after April next year," he said, adding that Europe, where he expected many people to buy new TVs in the next years, would be crucial.

"People are motivated to change over when the infrastructure changes over from analog to digital," he said, referring to changes in broadcasting standards. "We expect this process to take place between 2007 and 2010."

LG said it would start selling its first Full High Definition (Full HD) LCD television set this year, a 47-inch product, alongside 60 and 70-inch Full HD plasma sets. Smaller and more affordable versions, a 37-inch Full HD LCD set and a 50-inch Full HD plasma set would follow as early as in the first half of 2007.

Full HD sets, with more pixels than "HD-ready" sets that are already on sale, are being announced by the television manufacturing industry at this IFA. They promise to display all the detail of high definition broadcasts.

LG's European president James Kim said LG expects to sell 2 million units of its "chocolate" mobile phone in Europe this year. LG's thin, touch-button slider phone was introduced in Asia last year and in Europe in the spring of 2006. It competes with other designer models like Motorola's (NYSE:MOT - news) RAZR, and the high-margin phone is important in LG's attempt to get the world's fifth-biggest phone maker back to profitability.

[FAQ]

I spoke to a friend who works at the Costco distribution center and he told me that they are getting A LOT of these units on October 26th (or was it 20th?) and that it will be distributed to the stores after that.

The price is going to be $999.

I assume the shipping dates can always change, but this is probably the best information we have gotten to date.

Does your friend also comfirm the model number(e.g 3252W ) ?

Thanks

[SuSHi]

3752 people... 3752

[Cheapdeal]

Costco.com has the N3760W at $1500 US - $300 US coupon.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11118723&whse=BC&Ne=5000001+4000000&N=4001382%204294966653&Mo=1&No=1&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&Sp=C&topnav=

[globe]

Does your friend also comfirm the model number(e.g 3252W ) ?

3752 people... 3752

Yeah, I had to give him a model number to search the computer for.

Personally, I'm still undecided about this. It would be a good "transition" set until I can afford something better. I'm sure you could craigslist this later for decent money. Or demote it to a bedroom =)

[Ch28]

OK, assuming this is true. I just bought the Viewsonic 32" about 2 months ago. Should I return the TV and pick up the new 37"? I have the box, cables, manuals, everything.

What do you guys suggest? Will they even take back the TV?

You could either return it now and use something of lower quality for 2 months until the 37' comes out or return it when the 37' comes out and tell them you'd like to return that and then buy the 37'.

[Anessa]

Costco.com has the N3760W at $1500 US - $300 US coupon.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11118723&whse=BC&Ne=5000001+4000000&N=4001382%204294966653&Mo=1&No=1&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&Sp=C&topnav=

It's at Cranberry, PA Costco. Lots of them in stock and boy does that thing shine.

[silicone]

Here's a recent review of the 3760 (http://www.denguru.com/2006/08/31/the_viewsonic_n3760w/) -- not 3752 but I would guess they're the same

[hagbard]

Okay, its September, I want my thousand dollar 37" LCD TV now.

[midget_man]

Okay, its September, I want my thousand dollar 37" LCD TV now.

Classic!

[joeblow]

there's also a $200 US rebate so the magical price is $999 US

[embguy]

Costco dropped the 32" Viewsonic from $999 to $889. This paves the road for selling the 37" at $999 as soon as they arrive.

[FacistCop]

Here's a recent review of the 3760 (http://www.denguru.com/2006/08/31/the_viewsonic_n3760w/) -- not 3752 but I would guess they're the sameIt sounds like the 3760 is similar to the 3250 in terms of features. I wonder if the 3752 will have additional features found in the 3252 such as backlight adjustment and more zoom modes.

[shutout]

Just saw this on Costco websit. Don't know if the price will come down soon..but it still a long way to the suggested target. :(


N3760W (http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290601&whse=BCCA&topnav=&browse=)

[Acuratl]

Just saw this on Costco websit. Don't know if the price will come down soon..but it still a long way to the suggested target. :(


N3760W (http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290601&whse=BCCA&topnav=&browse=)


wow this quites the ppl who said this model was faux!

[sundog]

Just saw this on Costco websit. Don't know if the price will come down soon..but it still a long way to the suggested target. :(


N3760W (http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290601&whse=BCCA&topnav=&browse=)

Up this topic :D

I went to costco yesterday. The salesman show me their system. It lists 37" viewsonic (should be N3760W) pricing as $999. But there is no order info, and nothing. It's a bit wierd. The salesman also told me that, if it shows in the system they are puting some ordering out, then the price will be available within a month.

At the same time, there is a lot of viewsonic 32" in stock for $899 (or $889).

Any comments?

[teknoluv]

I'm puzzled by some people here saying like it's crazy to have a 37" LCD monitor for $1k. Yes, nobody LIKES to see a price drop when they have purchased at a significantly higher price (but not eligible for price protection). But then the truth is: prices of these tech toys ARE dropping ALL THE TIME, and it will only accelerate. Now that N3252W is only $900, I will not be surprised if Costco has a 37" for $1k, perhaps not in September, but very likely in a few months.

[Woah!]

$999 for this 37" TV is completely fathomable.I just picked up a 32" Toshiba(model #32HLX95) with slot-loading DVD player from A&B Sound yesterday for just under $1100....the point is that this same TV was $2500 US when it first came out last year,and was selling for $1700 just last week.I was actually gonna purchase the Viewsonic(32" or 37"),but I GOTTA have my TV Guide on-screen,plus for an extra couple hundred the Toshiba brand & few extra bell's & whistles were worth the difference.I've spent 2 months watching these Viewsonic threads,and this 37" TV in early Fall sounds legit.....plus Chad or Zakke aren't involved.Thankfully my TV is for the bedroom....otherwise I'd be really jealous when you all pick-up your $1000 37"'s in a couple of months.
Fingers crossed for y'all! :)

[gewain]

Here's a recent review of the 3760 (http://www.denguru.com/2006/08/31/the_viewsonic_n3760w/) -- not 3752 but I would guess they're the same

In the review it says "Using the VGA PC Input, the N3760w was able to adjust from its native resolution of 1366x768 down to the standard computer resolution of 1360x768 for 1:1 pixel mapping. I was unable to achieve this with the HDMI input, but the results with the VGA input were fantastic."

I've got the 32" Daytek and there is a big difference between VGA and DVI. Anyone had any experience with the Veiwsonic and using HDMI for PC? Don't see why this shouldn't work.

[dealguy65]

In the review it says "Using the VGA PC Input, the N3760w was able to adjust from its native resolution of 1366x768 down to the standard computer resolution of 1360x768 for 1:1 pixel mapping. I was unable to achieve this with the HDMI input, but the results with the VGA input were fantastic."

I've got the 32" Daytek and there is a big difference between VGA and DVI. Anyone had any experience with the Veiwsonic and using HDMI for PC? Don't see why this shouldn't work.

I'm using the 3252 and can't get it to go to 1366x768 via HDMI, I can only get 1280 by 720, which is funny because when I had the 3250, I could easily. From what I read you can only get the 3252 to go 1366x768 via a VGA cable. Viewsonic might have changes the newer LCD TVs so that it won't work over HDMI. I thought the HDMI on the older 3250 was AMAZING compared to what it looks like now on the 3252.

[jackboot]

In the review it says "Using the VGA PC Input, the N3760w was able to adjust from its native resolution of 1366x768 down to the standard computer resolution of 1360x768 for 1:1 pixel mapping. I was unable to achieve this with the HDMI input, but the results with the VGA input were fantastic."

I've got the 32" Daytek and there is a big difference between VGA and DVI. Anyone had any experience with the Veiwsonic and using HDMI for PC? Don't see why this shouldn't work.

That reviewer's ability to achieve native res is suspect based on his claim that 1360x768 on a 1366x768 display is 1:1 pixel mapping. Doesn't sound like he knows what he is talking about or at least he is explaining his results very poorly.

The reviewer's video card wasn't outputting 1366 anyway so it cannot be determined whether the display can achieve native res via DVI until someone sends the proper signal and reports back.

[highwire]

That reviewer's ability to achieve native res is suspect based on his claim that 1360x768 on a 1366x768 display is 1:1 pixel mapping. Doesn't sound like he knows what he is talking about or at least he is explaining his results very poorly.

The reviewer's video card wasn't outputting 1366 anyway so it cannot be determined whether the display can achieve native res via DVI until someone sends the proper signal and reports back.

I just hooked up my old POS Dell lappy to the Viewsonic N3252W. The Dell automatically switched the resolution to 1360x720@60Hz (not 1366 or 1368) and it fit the screen exactly with no overscan.

Photo (http://ca.geocities.com/dz-32@rogers.com/IMG_0270.JPG)

Sorry if the photo doesn't display. Effin' yahoo/rogers seems to be pretty flakey with the "free" web hosting. Oh, and those lines you see in the photo are the moire effect between the pixels on the display, and the pixels on my digital camera's sensor - the image doesn't ACTUALLY look like that bad.

[Rammy]

I just hooked up my old POS Dell lappy to the Viewsonic N3252W. The Dell automatically switched the resolution to 1360x720@60Hz (not 1366 or 1368) and it fit the screen exactly with no overscan.

Photo (http://ca.geocities.com/dz-32@rogers.com/IMG_0270.JPG)

Sorry if the photo doesn't display. Effin' yahoo/rogers seems to be pretty flakey with the "free" web hosting. Oh, and those lines you see in the photo are the moire effect between the pixels on the display, and the pixels on my digital camera's sensor - the image doesn't ACTUALLY look like that bad.

Host the image on Imageshack.us

http://www.imageshack.us

Way more bandwith and I think all RFD'ers are anxious to check this out

Thanks in advance

[lewdvig]

tempted to take back my 37" Acer, but I find the 720 mode too big on this panel. The Acer has 1920*1080 native res and windows looks a lot more usable at this size and res. So that somewhat helps me justify the $600 premium I will pay for the Acer if I keep it.

[Instagator]

I just hooked up my old POS Dell lappy to the Viewsonic N3252W. The Dell automatically switched the resolution to 1360x720@60Hz (not 1366 or 1368) and it fit the screen exactly with no overscan.

Photo (http://ca.geocities.com/dz-32@rogers.com/IMG_0270.JPG)

Sorry if the photo doesn't display. Effin' yahoo/rogers seems to be pretty flakey with the "free" web hosting. Oh, and those lines you see in the photo are the moire effect between the pixels on the display, and the pixels on my digital camera's sensor - the image doesn't ACTUALLY look like that bad.

You can also host it at dumpedimages.com

In any case, exceeded bandwidth..

[dealguy65]

I just hooked up my old POS Dell lappy to the Viewsonic N3252W. The Dell automatically switched the resolution to 1360x720@60Hz (not 1366 or 1368) and it fit the screen exactly with no overscan.

Photo (http://ca.geocities.com/dz-32@rogers.com/IMG_0270.JPG)

Sorry if the photo doesn't display. Effin' yahoo/rogers seems to be pretty flakey with the "free" web hosting. Oh, and those lines you see in the photo are the moire effect between the pixels on the display, and the pixels on my digital camera's sensor - the image doesn't ACTUALLY look like that bad.

Has anyone tried hooking up the newer Viewsonics (especially the 3252) via the HDMI cable? I can't get the native resolution, and I could with the 3250.

[DJay75]

Good news. they are selling this item (date unknown as of yet) but it's not the N3760W, apparently it's the N3752W. Two stores did confirm the price of $999.99 and the model though. She didn't give me any specs (she didn't have them).

So NICE!

She said to ry back in a week or 2.

Later,
Dave

[sfrancis]

Great news. I'm looking for a LCD TV lately.

Could not find the N3752 model on the internet though. Is this a special make for Costco ?

Thanks

[Phils]

Just to raise the stakes a bit, there's a N4060W on fat wallet today for $1,299 US.

[michelb]

Just to raise the stakes a bit, there's a N4060W on fat wallet today for $1,299 US.

For what it's worth, the same link also has the N3760W for $999US after MIR so $1000CND without MIR would certainly be an excellent price.

[DJay75]

yeah i'm thinking this model must be a Costco specific one too. i'm really curious to find out the specs.

I can't wait...Leafs and the Bills (yes, i'm a loser) on a 37 inch LCD this year...
~DJ

[aidzhsiah]

It's amazing... we're on 19 pages for a TV that doesn't exist yet and no firm release date LOL

[DJay75]

i forgot to mention. she said to call back in 2 weeks Costco inventory item # 109376.

It might be where ever you are. call now and see.
~DJ

[riskit]

i forgot to mention. she said to call back in 2 weeks Costco inventory item # 109376.

It might be where ever you are. call now and see.
~DJ


Thanks for confirming what I said on the previous posts

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3818160&postcount=234
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3820725&postcount=245

[T3rry]

Didn't wanna read all 20 pages to see if this was previously mentioned, but i did find the 3760 on their website for $1700...

http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290601&whse=&topnav=&browse=

[DJay75]

I got to page 10 and got impatient. thanks guy.
DJ

[SuSHi]

there is a search this thread function

[GYR8]

It's amazing... we're on 19 pages for a TV that doesn't exist yet and no firm release date LOL

*cough*251*cough*

GYR8

[beatdownvictim]

Edit: I suck at reading :(

[redox600]

another 32 inch viewsonic for a good price...

http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=4740

[maddawg]

another 32 inch viewsonic for a good price...

http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=4740
I would stick to costco..there warranty is worth it.

[gewain]

Phoned Winnipeg store and they have Costco inventory item # 109376 @ $999 but no model# and no arrival date. So it's starting to look pretty firm but no date.

[ricky13579]

I would stick to costco..there warranty is worth it.

costco has the 32" for 889 as well.

[dealgini]

It's amazing... we're on 19 pages for a TV that doesn't exist yet and no firm release date LOL

:lol: :lol: :lol: I am howling just reading this... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Fair enough but you have to admit that 37" LCD for $999 is an amazing deal. I am looking for a 42" one but this is very very tempting. :twisted:

[story]

Let's hope Staples will drop their price too, so I can use the GC to pay in October

[gewain]

Phoned again today. They now have the model #N3752W but there are none on order. No idea when it will be in stock but say that it should be on shelves about 1 or 2 weeks after it show as being on order. Let's hope that's soon.
Anyone got any info on this model yet???????

[vOx2]

they don't make a N3752W, it's a N3760w http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcdtv/n3760w/#specs also noticed res was 1000:1 not 800:1 as previously posted.
Keeping fingers crossed.

[FacistCop]

they don't make a N3752W, it's a N3760w http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcdtv/n3760w/#specs also noticed res was 1000:1 not 800:1 as previously posted.
Keeping fingers crossed.Great first post :rolleyes:

[SuSHi]

they don't make a N3752W, it's a N3760w http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcdtv/n3760w/#specs also noticed res was 1000:1 not 800:1 as previously posted.
Keeping fingers crossed.

read first, talk later

[T3rry]

i really hope liek hell i see this as soon as it's released so i can PM at staples, that'd be real nice to get a $650 PM, plus $65 off for the extra 10% it's save me the GST :D

and then stack 4-5 coupons and get it for like $900 MWAHAHA :P

[FacistCop]

i really hope liek hell i see this as soon as it's released so i can PM at staples, that'd be real nice to get a $650 PM, plus $65 off for the extra 10% it's save me the GST :D

and then stack 4-5 coupons and get it for like $900 MWAHAHA :P*sigh*

Costco is not lowering the price on the 3760 (that we know of). The point of this thread is that Costco is apparently going to introduce a new model called the 3752 for $999.

Staples does not and will not sell the 3752, so there will be no price matching.

[googz]

i really hope liek hell i see this as soon as it's released so i can PM at staples, that'd be real nice to get a $650 PM, plus $65 off for the extra 10% it's save me the GST

and then stack 4-5 coupons and get it for like $900 MWAHAHA :P

Staples has a maximum of $50 off from a price match.

"If you find a lower advertised price on an in-stock new identical item from an Authorized Canadian dealer, now or within 30 days of your purchase (14 days on computers and laptops), just show us the price. We will match it and give you 10% of the difference as a credit to your purchase (maximum $50 credit)!"

Staples Price Match Policy (http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Static/static_pages.asp?pagename=help_policy_pricematch)

[Bastich]

That's assuming they'll even price match Costco (sorry if this was already discussed too). Every place I've checked says they don't PM Costco.

:cool:

[SuSHi]

That's assuming they'll even price match Costco (sorry if this was already discussed too). Every place I've checked says they don't PM Costco.

:cool:

they normally say it's because you need a membership to shop at costco, but you don't need one to shop at costco.ca

[Bastich]

Sounds familiar... do they not add an arbitrary amount to the PM when matching Costco.ca?

:cool:

[Kamloops]

That's assuming they'll even price match Costco (sorry if this was already discussed too). Every place I've checked says they don't PM Costco.

:cool:

From Staples -
Costco – Although they don’t advertise, we consider Costco a key competitor that we don’t want to lose business to. We can apply the price guarantee to Costco prices. Keep in mind, they typically mark up their products 10% from cost. We usually match their prices or are within 10% of their prices, so there should not be a difference of more than 10%. If you encounter a price that is significantly different, take care of the Customer first. Then, send a note to the appropriate Category Manager and they will do some investigation and price modifications, if necessary.

[impostor]

Kamloops -- where is that coming from?
Sounds familiar... do they not add an arbitrary amount to the PM when matching Costco.ca?5%, which is indicated on costco.ca that they will add to non-members' purchase totals. You can sometimes successfully argue also that with a free day pass, and Costco gift cards, anyone can buy something from the store without a membership. ;)

[embguy]

That's assuming they'll even price match Costco (sorry if this was already discussed too). Every place I've checked says they don't PM Costco.

:cool:I did a price match at Staple with Costco a few months ago on a Brother all-in-one printer. The first Staples said NO b/c Costco is membership based. The second one - YES. This is hit & miss - similar to PM FS with Dell price.

[kaddy69]

I really hope this TV comes soon. This thread is getting my hopes up!

[GYR8]

I really hope this TV comes soon. This thread is getting my hopes up!

And I will always be here to be a party-pooper. Check post #251. Then add about 1 week or so. And keep your fingers crossed :lol:

GYR8

[prod]

I think its safe to change the title of the thread then, obviously not coming in september...

[SuSHi]

i've got my 360, i've got my nhl 07, now all i need is a big ass tv to play it on

[AnitaPeterson]

Looks like the mods made the wrong changes in this thread's title. The "(Not $1,000)" doesn't make sense... they should've said "(NOT in September)", instead... otherwise, the price seems to be confirmed.

[Evil Techie]

Looks like the mods made the wrong changes in this thread's title. The "(Not $1,000)" doesn't make sense... they should've said "(NOT in September)", instead... otherwise, the price seems to be confirmed.
jay patel rarely makes mistakes but it happens hehehe

ive edited it just now and the title should be satisfactory
there isnt a confirmation whether it is 3760w or 3752w yet eh

[sfrancis]

Was in Costco of Merivale Ottawa last week and asked the TV sales about 37" Viewsonic. I was told that they may have them in Oct. He didn't mention the price though.

Anyway, my wait is over as I bought the westinghouse 42" on Sunday. Will get it delivered tomorrow.

[AnitaPeterson]

how much, the Westinghouse?

[T3rry]

how much, the Westinghouse?
Twice the price??

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337740&highlight=westinghouse


Personally i won't be buyign a big screen in the near future, unless i can get a killer deal like speculated in this thread.... the market is way too volatile and unstable... prices are plummeting because of overstock of parts now... they should be coming down considerably more in the near future.

[JayPatel]

jay patel rarely makes mistakes but it happens hehehe

ive edited it just now and the title should be satisfactory
there isnt a confirmation whether it is 3760w or 3752w yet eh

oops :twisted: thanks for the quick edit ET

[hardcoredummy]

Twice the price??

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337740&highlight=westinghouse



It's also 42" AND 1080P (true).

[jackboot]

Was in Costco of Merivale Ottawa last week and asked the TV sales about 37" Viewsonic. I was told that they may have them in Oct. He didn't mention the price though.

Anyway, my wait is over as I bought the westinghouse 42" on Sunday. Will get it delivered tomorrow.

I wish costco would carry the westinghouse!!! Great for HTPC...

[GYR8]

there isnt a confirmation whether it is 3760w or 3752w yet eh

It is *Definitely* going to be the N3752W ;)

GYR8

[T3rry]

Fonfirmation that it will be the 3752, i got this email in a response to a quiestion i submitted to viewsonic's sales support

Dear Customer,

Unfortunately, I can't tell you when Costco will have them in their inventory. This is a model that is exclusively sold through Costco.

Thank you for choosing ViewSonic.

-----------------------------

Hey, I was wondering if you might have any info on this model (N3752w) (specs for this model) and when Costco may be receiving them? They had it in their computer system but I was curious if you could supply me with a little more accurate dates than the "check back in a couple weeks" that they've given me numerous times.



Thanks.

[gumby]

Costco system now shows an order of over 3500 of this 3752W model to be shipped to Costco's Quebec warehouse in the middle of October for the Eastern Canada stores. It would take about a week later to show up in the local stores. This is only another 5 weeks anyway for those who can wait, I am being one :lol: .

I don't work for Costco and I'm not giving any exact detail information so it won't get anyone in trouble :) This is enough for us to stop speculating :cheesygri

[danku]

Thnx GYR8 for confirming that it will be the N3752W.
Since it won't be the N3760w anymore, are the specs for the N3752W available anywhere? Is it still 37"? Does it support 1080p? Me hopes so. = P

[michelb]

Thnx GYR8 for confirming that it will be the N3752W.
Since it won't be the N3760w anymore, are the specs for the N3752W available anywhere? Is it still 37"? Does it support 1080p? Me hopes so. = P

Let's see:

VS N2752w - 1366*768
VS N3252w - 1366*768
VS N3752w - 1920*1080 ??? I think that's unlikely - probably 1366*768

[JohnB]

Twice the price??

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337740&highlight=westinghouse


Personally i won't be buyign a big screen in the near future, unless i can get a killer deal like speculated in this thread.... the market is way too volatile and unstable... prices are plummeting because of overstock of parts now... they should be coming down considerably more in the near future.

Me too, thats a good post.

I dont want to shell out $1500 to find a 2 months later its now at $1000, or I could have bought a much larger size the the same price...

The prices are really coming down fast...I dont remember this happening so quickly with CRTs...

I think Id be happy thought with a 37" for 1000 CAD right now, like tomorrow. Otherwise I think I will wait and see till spring...or next summer. I dont watch TV anyways it would only be for DVDs and I watch 1 DVD a week, so I can wait a bit more.

[AnitaPeterson]

where'd you get this info, gumby ?

[SuSHi]

Let's see:

VS N2752w - 1366*768
VS N3252w - 1366*768
VS N3752w - 1920*1080 ??? I think that's unlikely - probably 1366*768

no it's not

the 3260 had only a regular tuner before

but the 3252 has an HD tuner in it, they're hardly the same the model

3752 will have improvements on the 3760 guaranteed

[gumby]

where'd you get this info, gumby ?

I got someone who works at Costco to look into the system. Mind you if you ask someone at Costco nicely they would probably do that for you too. It helps if you ask the right questions :lol:

They are bringing in enough stock for everyone so we won't be disappointed. I suspect it will sell fast at this price.

[michelb]

Originally Posted by michelb
Let's see:

VS N2752w - 1366*768
VS N3252w - 1366*768
VS N3752w - 1920*1080 ??? I think that's unlikely - probably 1366*768


no it's not

the 3260 had only a regular tuner before

but the 3252 has an HD tuner in it, they're hardly the same the model

3752 will have improvements on the 3760 guaranteed

Actually, I wasn't even looking at the 3260/3760, I was looking at the specs across the Nxx52w line (although it's not guaranteed, I think it's probably reasonable to assume that they'll have similar specs (that's pretty much how all other tv companies do it)).

That being said, according to the specs at Viewsonic.com and Costco.ca, the n3260w/n3760w do have an ATSC (HD) tuner.

[SuSHi]

Actually, I wasn't even looking at the 3260/3760, I was looking at the specs across the Nxx52w line (although it's not guaranteed, I think it's probably reasonable to assume that they'll have similar specs (that's pretty much how all other tv companies do it)).

That being said, according to the specs at Viewsonic.com and Costco.ca, the n3260w/n3760w do have an ATSC (HD) tuner.

but what i said was 3252 does so most likely the 3752 will, upon further improvements

and the 3260 and 3760 were released relatively close together i think (confirmation) so the 3252 came out after both of those were available and viewsonic was able to add on features they weren't able to before (IE 1080p hopefully)

[SuperAho]

isnt the Nxx52w line the base model without HD tuner, and the Nxx60w line with HD tuner? (usually higher number are the higher model)

[JaGWiRE]

I have the n3250w, I love this TV.

[T3rry]

isnt the Nxx52w line the base model without HD tuner, and the Nxx60w line with HD tuner? (usually higher number are the higher model)


not in this case, as with the 3260 and 3252 it is assumed that they are identical just the xx52 model is exclusive to costco so other stores can reject a price match because "it's a different model number"

[cannon_fodder]

Me too, thats a good post.

I dont want to shell out $1500 to find a 2 months later its now at $1000, or I could have bought a much larger size the the same price...

The prices are really coming down fast...I dont remember this happening so quickly with CRTs...

I think Id be happy thought with a 37" for 1000 CAD right now, like tomorrow. Otherwise I think I will wait and see till spring...or next summer. I dont watch TV anyways it would only be for DVDs and I watch 1 DVD a week, so I can wait a bit more.

You're thinking just like me... originally I was excited about a 32" at $999 for the bedroom to replace a 35" CRT. Then I thought but unless it has an ATSC tuner, it is a no go.

Later I hear speculation about a 37" for $999 and I prepare myself to hit Costco the 1st day they show up. Now unless it has 1080p I will wait.

And at the tremendous rate these prices are dropping, and the capabilities or growing, I probably won't have to wait more than a year to get everything I want.

Of course, maybe I'd then hold out for a 42"! ;)

[RichieTheHammer]

N E news ?

The Hammer

[babysham]

You're thinking just like me... originally I was excited about a 32" at $999 for the bedroom to replace a 35" CRT. Then I thought but unless it has an ATSC tuner, it is a no go.

Later I hear speculation about a 37" for $999 and I prepare myself to hit Costco the 1st day they show up. Now unless it has 1080p I will wait.

And at the tremendous rate these prices are dropping, and the capabilities or growing, I probably won't have to wait more than a year to get everything I want.

Of course, maybe I'd then hold out for a 42"! ;)

Or you can keep holding out for the newer technology, bigger tv, cheaper price...

And never buy a tv.

[hagbard]

Or you can keep holding out for the newer technology, bigger tv, cheaper price...

And never buy a tv.

Sounds like a good plan.

[RichieTheHammer]

I was at Costco today (Sept 24th) in Kamloops BC.
No sign of this 37" yet.. They had the 32" on display for $889.

I think $110 more for 5 extra inches might be woth waitng for.
No updates? confirmations?

The Hammer

[lewdvig]

http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/24/viewsonics-futureproof-37-and-42-inch-lcds-dont-you-belie/

MSRP of $999 USD

"Caveat Emptor folks when checking these highly-touted "future-proof" sets from ViewSonic. Both the 37-inch N3751w ($999) and the 42-inch N4251w ($1499) LCDs feature rock-bottom pricing and integrated ATSC digital tuners, HDMI, S-video, Component, and VGA inputs, 8-millisecond response, 1000:1 contrast ratio, and SPDIF output for releasing audio to your external system. Thing is, if you want to view that full 1080p (1920x1080) resolution spinning outta your game console's hi-def optical disc, well, tough luck Sony sonny, these sets aren't gonna cut it with a panel resolution of only 1366 x 768. We guess the warranty on that supposed future-proofing only lasts 'till the end of year, eh? Oh, and that image above is their N3251 since the product images aren't available with the press-release... is this really so hard ViewSonic?"

Sort-of hot.

[GYR8]

I was at Costco today (Sept 24th) in Kamloops BC.
No sign of this 37" yet.. They had the 32" on display for $889.

I think $110 more for 5 extra inches might be woth waitng for.
No updates? confirmations?

The Hammer

There is no sign of the 37" yet because it wont be there until *at least* the end of October / Early November.

GYR8

[diabolical7]

i wonder if it'll be sold out the day its released... and whats costco's return policy on dead pixels??? how can we check for dead pixels easily

[dzen]

I am also curious because I just built my basement office and it's only over 10' long. I found this info for LCD TVs at http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdtelevision/allbuyingtips.shtml

The right distance depends on the size of your TV:

For 20 to 27-inch displays, you should be able to watch comfortably from 2.5 to 5 feet away.
For 32 to 37-inch TVs, you should sit back 6 to 8 feet from the screen itself.
For 42 to 46-inch TVs, you'll need 10 to 14 feet between you and the screen.
50-inch LCD displays look best when viewed from 12 to 16 feet away.

It should be fine for a 37" LCD TV. In the review article for a Sharp 45" LCD TV, the recommended viewing distance was between 6' and 8'.

Futureshop says 8.5 feet for 42" screens.

[NightRain]

I sit about 13-14 feet away from my 57" but I've been considering replacing it with a 72" DLP lately, maybe for Christmas. I sit about 6-7 feet away from a 32" and find that pretty good.

[jerryhussain]

Futureshop says 8.5 feet for 42" screens.
Actually the recommended viewing distance varies depending upon the content (SD or HD).

http://xs207.xs.to/xs207/06391/HDTV_size.PNG

Again these are recommended viewing distances, there is no hard and fast rule. A viewing distance that works for some one else may not be ideal for you.

..

[SuSHi]

http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/24/viewsonics-futureproof-37-and-42-inch-lcds-dont-you-belie/

MSRP of $999 USD

"Caveat Emptor folks when checking these highly-touted "future-proof" sets from ViewSonic. Both the 37-inch N3751w ($999) and the 42-inch N4251w ($1499) LCDs feature rock-bottom pricing and integrated ATSC digital tuners, HDMI, S-video, Component, and VGA inputs, 8-millisecond response, 1000:1 contrast ratio, and SPDIF output for releasing audio to your external system. Thing is, if you want to view that full 1080p (1920x1080) resolution spinning outta your game console's hi-def optical disc, well, tough luck Sony sonny, these sets aren't gonna cut it with a panel resolution of only 1366 x 768. We guess the warranty on that supposed future-proofing only lasts 'till the end of year, eh? Oh, and that image above is their N3251 since the product images aren't available with the press-release... is this really so hard ViewSonic?"

Sort-of hot.

that doesn't mean anything really, the 51 series is available for purchase everywhere and there are still differences between the previous 51 and 52 series and i don't expect it to change just yet

[ah802]

Actually the recommended viewing distance varies depending upon the content (SD or HD).

http://xs207.xs.to/xs207/06391/HDTV_size.PNG

Again these are recommended viewing distances, there is no hard and fast rule. A viewing distance that works for some one else may not be ideal for you.

..Good call... Go to the movies... sit in a comfortable to you, center seat (directors seat is usually middle and 12 rows from the front) and holding up a ruler 6 inches from your nose, note the screen edges... Do the same when you get home... superimposing the same ruler distance on wall space.. then note the size in which you saw the movie and buy the set to fit (Imax aside).

P.S. you don't really need a ruler...but it helps.

[gr8dlr]

Actually the recommended viewing distance varies depending upon the content (SD or HD).

http://xs207.xs.to/xs207/06391/HDTV_size.PNG

Again these are recommended viewing distances, there is no hard and fast rule. A viewing distance that works for some one else may not be ideal for you.

..

Don't know about you but sitting 4 ft away from a 32 in screen seems pretty close. 6 ft to a 42 in screen also seems close. Who sits this close?

[mpt]

http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290601&whse=BCCA&topnav=&cat=3316&hierPath=2341*

When I first announced Costco was selling the 32" ViewSonic for $999.99 on March 4, it took until March 18 to arrive. I went to Costco today to get some more info on the upcoming LCDs. A Costco employee spent 10 minutes searching on their system because he noticed the 37" ViewSonic N3760W in the system for $1000! He said the arrival date is an estimate, but the N3252w (http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcdtv/N3252w/) will be coming this week at Costco Regina @ $999.99 and will be put out on the shelf in 3 weeks when the N3250w (7 left) are sold out.

Would have been a great deal but the N3760W is listed at $1700

[michelb]

Don't know about you but sitting 4 ft away from a 32 in screen seems pretty close. 6 ft to a 42 in screen also seems close. Who sits this close?

As mentioned, this is just a guideline but for the record, we sit about 6 feet away from a 42" screen (I also like to sit close to the front at the movie theatres). Personally, I would actually have no problem with a 50" or larger screen from that distance, I just didn't have the budget for a larger screen.

Also, I didn't see the source of the table but I believe that these are the minimum recommended distances for the resolution (i.e. closer than that and you will see artifacts / scanlines / pixels / etc) and not necessarily recommended distances for comfortable viewing (hence SD twice distance of HD)

[JohnB]

I was out shopping this weekend...

...even the 37 looks kind of small. I think Id like to get a 42 incher...

Sure its 37 or 42 inches diagonal but the vertical height still seems kind of short, I guess we just get spolied.

[flamenko]

Sorry...but...got the 50" Akai at Costco and its a whole new world. Yes, I know ...us males and our phallic symbols... big tvs loud stereos, stainless steel bbqs, fast cars and gorgeous....lol

But. I swear by this tv...Its got the lg circuitboard in it along with the costco century and a half warranty.

Now thats big!!

[gmark2000]

The Viewsonic N3760 is US$999 after $200 rebate right now (link (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=235409)). I just can't fathom a C$1000 model for a Viewsonic 37-incher.

[diabolical7]

well its only what a month more to go before we know... but if its 1000 for 37inch 720p... thats a really good price for a starter lcd i'll be buying one

[gr8dlr]

Sorry...but...got the 50" Akai at Costco and its a whole new world. Yes, I know ...us males and our phallic symbols... big tvs loud stereos, stainless steel bbqs, fast cars and gorgeous....lol

But. I swear by this tv...Its got the lg circuitboard in it along with the costco century and a half warranty.

Now thats big!!

Just curious how do some posters figure who who makes the various manufacturer's panels and circuitboards. I would hope they don't open up the box just for fun/knowledge?

[GYR8]

Just curious how do some posters figure who who makes the various manufacturer's panels and circuitboards. I would hope they don't open up the box just for fun/knowledge?

In many cases the small holes in the back of the case allow a flashlight to be shone through, usually revealling enough of a logo to be able to tell. I carry a mini-led flashlight with me and I try to check every tv that comes in ;)

GYR8

[mpt]

The Viewsonic N3760 is US$999 after $200 rebate right now (link (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=235409)). I just can't fathom a C$1000 model for a Viewsonic 37-incher.


The MIR applies to U.S. only

[gmark2000]

The MIR applies to U.S. only
I was only trying to illustrate current U.S. promotional pricing at US$1000 with rebate versus how we are supposed to accept C$1000 for everyday Costco pricing next month(?). We are talking about current model Viewsonic 37-inchers.

[gumby]

In many cases the small holes in the back of the case allow a flashlight to be shone through, usually revealling enough of a logo to be able to tell. I carry a mini-led flashlight with me and I try to check every tv that comes in ;)

GYR8

Me too. I have a flashlight with a small fiber optic extension that allows me to see inside tiny holes :lol:
Now everyone goes out and gets a mini-flashlight :cheesygri

[SuSHi]

I was only trying to illustrate current U.S. promotional pricing at US$1000 with rebate versus how we are supposed to accept C$1000 for everyday Costco pricing next month(?). We are talking about current model Viewsonic 37-inchers.

it's in the costco database, how do you argue with that?

[prod]

it's in the costco database, how do you argue with that?
Umm, no. No one has given any confirmation that the 3752 will be priced at $999, just that it is coming in oct.

[gumby]

Umm, no. No one has given any confirmation that the 3752 will be priced at $999, just that it is coming in oct.

Trust me :cheesygri, I have seen the price on Costco's computer several times. The price has been mentioned many times in this thread so you just have to look harder :lol: .

[skanji]

The 3752 can be hung on the wall as well, right?

What's the cost to do this?

[prod]

The 3752 can be hung on the wall as well, right?

What's the cost to do this?
You can, cost depends on many factors. A simple wall mount can be under $100. But if you want tilt/arm mount it can be up to $400 for a good one. Then you may have to buy longer cables, or even run them through the wall.
I still like www.monoprice.com for cables.

Still looking through this thead, cant find confirmation for $999.

[michelb]

The 3752 can be hung on the wall as well, right?

What's the cost to do this?

Most (all?) flatscreens are designed to be wall mounted somehow (you could even argue that technically, you can wall mount any tv if you put your mind to it).

The cost will vary depending on your specific location and how exactly you want it done but I think for an installer to do it it's about $300-$500 plus the cost of the mount (about $100-$500+). I think a large part of that expense is cabling (running wires in the walls) and the complexity of this varies depending on the house contruction and if it's interior or exterior walls. If you don't care (or don't want to pay or can't (hard to run wires in solid cement/brick walls)) to have the cables put in the wall, it's actually not particularly hard to install the mount yourself.

[SuSHi]

Trust me :cheesygri, I have seen the price on Costco's computer several times. The price has been mentioned many times in this thread so you just have to look harder :lol: .

thanks gumby!

i told you guys it's in the computer, maybe you should go take a look yourself

[AnitaPeterson]

Hello everyone.

Sorry for cross-posting, but please look at my input here:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3945228&postcount=266

I discovered a real problem with my 3250, and I was wondering if I should exchange it with a 3252 NOW or wait for the 3752 in 30 days (if it finally makes it at this price, and in stock, and if they will accept my return at that time).

Please advise... I really don't know what to do.

[JohnB]

Hello everyone.

Sorry for cross-posting, but please look at my input here:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3945228&postcount=266

I discovered a real problem with my 3250, and I was wondering if I should exchange it with a 3252 NOW or wait for the 3752 in 30 days (if it finally makes it at this price, and in stock, and if they will accept my return at that time).

Please advise... I really don't know what to do.

Why not just wait for the new model, the 37 inch...if you really do have a problem I think this would be a no brainer...

They will probably accept your return at anytime, I have never heard of them objecting to any return, so if they did you would be the first person in the world to be rejected, LOL...

Even if you dont have a receipt they can check your account for the purchase.

[imran909]

Why not just wait for the new model, the 37 inch...if you really do have a problem I think this would be a no brainer...

They will probably accept your return at anytime, I have never heard of them objecting to any return, so if they did you would be the first person in the world to be rejected, LOL...

Even if you dont have a receipt they can check your account for the purchase.

I will second to that - I bought an audio system back in mid 2003 and since then it gave me troubble. Just recently it completely failed. I took it to Costco and posed a simple question : What options are available to me??? The CSR was a fine person, she said that she has to check their system. She came back in few minutes and gave the following comments:

Sir, it is good that you have a receipt. Since it is quite some time you purchase this unit (3.5 years) there is no warrenty service available from MFR any more, however, there is still some 42% residual value of this product. In this case, Costco will make an exception to you and fully refund your money in terms of gift card, while absorbing the loss.

She then noted some thing on my account - I guess for future reference purposes.

My conclusion, Costco may take back any thing you throw at them. However, they are absorbing some loss due to that as the MFR do not necessarily take back all the products at full price from them.

Hope this helps - My take is, with the refund policy so widely open, Costco will have to change it the same way they did for computers and laptops if there is a significant abuse.

[Cas77]

Hope this helps - My take is, with the refund policy so widely open, Costco will have to change it the same way they did for computers and laptops if there is a significant abuse.

The policy is currently under review by senior management due to abuse from both members and employees. There will be changes effective 2007. That's all I can say.

[AnitaPeterson]

Can anyone with an upconverting DVD player confirm or infirm my observation that the 3250 does not properly display 720p via HDMI?

[crikey]

Hello everyone.

Sorry for cross-posting, but please look at my input here:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3945228&postcount=266

I discovered a real problem with my 3250, and I was wondering if I should exchange it with a 3252 NOW or wait for the 3752 in 30 days (if it finally makes it at this price, and in stock, and if they will accept my return at that time).

Please advise... I really don't know what to do.

If there is an honest-to-goodness issue with the 3250, then just return it.

However, you have to decide whether you really want the 3252 at that point or whether to wait for the 37". If you just buy the 3252 for the time being while waiting for the 37", and return it when the 37" comes in, that may not be the ethical thing to do.

[AnitaPeterson]

Yeah, but my question is: if I decide to wait until the 37xx becomes available, will I be able to return the 3250? because I definitely need to wait more than 30 days after the original purchase, and I don't want the people at Costco to tell me "sorry, you're SOL".

[jackboot]

Yeah, but my question is: if I decide to wait until the 37xx becomes available, will I be able to return the 3250? because I definitely need to wait more than 30 days after the original purchase, and I don't want the people at Costco to tell me "sorry, you're SOL".

Costco does not have an x number of days return policy. They have a 100% satisfaction guarantee. That means no set time limit. You will be fine.

Of course I will echo what has been stated above: make sure you are returning it because it is faulty and not just because you want something newer & better. There will *always* be something newer & better every 3-6 months in electronics. Personally I think it is unethical to abuse costco's satisfaction guarantee with the guise of getting free upgrades on technology.

I am guessing your issue with 720p is user error from what you've said. Try another DVD player or check your DVD player's settings.

[ah802]

Hello everyone.

Sorry for cross-posting, but please look at my input here:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3945228&postcount=266

I discovered a real problem with my 3250, and I was wondering if I should exchange it with a 3252 NOW or wait for the 3752 in 30 days (if it finally makes it at this price, and in stock, and if they will accept my return at that time).

Please advise... I really don't know what to do.Thanks for the link... duplication can kill my eyes... I doubt if you really have a TV problem, considering you can see normal HD broadcasts. I suspect your upscaler is not quite at the sync feq needed. I have two PS DVD players.... both working, but only 1 works with my TV directly in progressive scan, the other gives sync problems. But if I connect the sync plagued unit through a video switcher it works fine...

If you find the TV faulty, return it asap... (given the 37" is due shortly...) and get the model you want.

[riskit]

here is a good forum thread about

Official ViewSonic N3260w/N3760w/N4060w LCD HDTV Thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=669615&page=1&pp=30)

[Anessa]

It is time to put all the speculation to bed.

This directly from Jim Sinegal the CEO in an interview on JULY 25 2006 in regards to the TV policy.

"I wanted to return a TV to Costco because it had a problem, but I bought it three years ago," said longtime member Richard Bell. "The factory warranty was up. I didn't have the receipt. But I had a refund in five minutes. I think their customer service is better than Nordstrom - and their prices sure as heck are."

During a phone interview last week, Sinegal said Costco always will go overboard with customer service in its campaign to overcome one of the raps about discount warehouse stores.

"Generally speaking, we're bare-bones warehouse environment with few embellishments," he said. "That means people expect little service. Our answer to that is to be cordial and fast, to exceed expectations at every turn."

Sinegal said it's critical to take care of members like Bell who didn't have all his ducks in a row when he showed up at the customer service counter.

"It's a trust issue," he said. "We not only are offering the best prices, but also a guarantee that you will be satisfied in every way.



"Do people take advantage of our policy? Sometimes, yes, but not the majority of the time. We believe they appreciate it too much to abuse it. It is not easy for us to have this kind of policy, but it's part of keeping the faith. Our members count on us."

[bumbum]

many thnx.. gotta buy a 32" today.. dad's bday is tomolo..
hope they have some in stock!

[voodoo401]

It is time to put all the speculation to bed.

This directly from Jim Sinegal the CEO in an interview on JULY 25 2006 in regards to the TV policy.

"I wanted to return a TV to Costco because it had a problem, but I bought it three years ago," said longtime member Richard Bell. "The factory warranty was up. I didn't have the receipt. But I had a refund in five minutes. I think their customer service is better than Nordstrom - and their prices sure as heck are."

During a phone interview last week, Sinegal said Costco always will go overboard with customer service in its campaign to overcome one of the raps about discount warehouse stores.

"Generally speaking, we're bare-bones warehouse environment with few embellishments," he said. "That means people expect little service. Our answer to that is to be cordial and fast, to exceed expectations at every turn."

Sinegal said it's critical to take care of members like Bell who didn't have all his ducks in a row when he showed up at the customer service counter.

"It's a trust issue," he said. "We not only are offering the best prices, but also a guarantee that you will be satisfied in every way.



"Do people take advantage of our policy? Sometimes, yes, but not the majority of the time. We believe they appreciate it too much to abuse it. It is not easy for us to have this kind of policy, but it's part of keeping the faith. Our members count on us."


That's not to say that they will change their policy, remember that they had the same policy for computers and they changed it also to 6 months which is still great.

[Ashtangi]

Another "rumour" making the rounds is that they will implement a shorter return period for all "Visuals" - TVs, digital cameras, camcorders, DVD players, etc.

From:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060905.REDGE05/TPStory/Business

"... Chief financial officer Richard Galanti said competition with other retailers was "not really the major culprit here." Rather, the company is "up against huge numbers last year."

"How many more big screens can people buy?" Mr. Galanti asked during the conference call.

Indeed, big screen televisions symbolized part of the problem, according to ThinkEquity Partners analyst Edward Weller.

Costco's "very generous" return policy let members who bought a $2,000 big screen TV during the last holiday season and later saw a comparable model for $1,700 return the first, buy the other, and go home with $300 in their pocket, he said. But he doesn't expect that to last.

"We think both internal and external pressure will cause the company to modify its overly generous returns policies . . . and soon," Mr. Weller wrote to investors on Thursday."

Don't be surprised if this does come to fruition - as more and more people abuse the policy, Costco won't have much choice; they are a publically-traded company, and although the CEO may be vocal about staying the course, he is ultimately liable to the shareholders.

[skram]

I was in Costco today and they had two Polaroid 37" LCDs. One for just over 1400 and the other at just under 1000.

The 1400 one had an ATSC tuner, the 1000 didn't.
As well, I think the 1000 had a lower contrast. Didn't see other specs on the price card and there were no boxed units of the 1000 just the display one (hoping they have more off the floor or coming in)..

Anyone else see this or know anything about these units and how the lower price one might compare with the Viewsonic?

Thought I'd mention it in case anyone knows. I'm very interested in a 37" LCD for $1000 and was waiting for the Viewsonic, so am now wondering between the Polaroid and the Viewsonic now. I'm not looking for high end, just a first LCD set.

[hagbard]

Another "rumour" making the rounds is that they will implement a shorter return period for all "Visuals" - TVs, digital cameras, camcorders, DVD players, etc.

From:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060905.REDGE05/TPStory/Business

"... Chief financial officer Richard Galanti said competition with other retailers was "not really the major culprit here." Rather, the company is "up against huge numbers last year."

"How many more big screens can people buy?" Mr. Galanti asked during the conference call.

Indeed, big screen televisions symbolized part of the problem, according to ThinkEquity Partners analyst Edward Weller.

Costco's "very generous" return policy let members who bought a $2,000 big screen TV during the last holiday season and later saw a comparable model for $1,700 return the first, buy the other, and go home with $300 in their pocket, he said. But he doesn't expect that to last.

"We think both internal and external pressure will cause the company to modify its overly generous returns policies . . . and soon," Mr. Weller wrote to investors on Thursday."

Don't be surprised if this does come to fruition - as more and more people abuse the policy, Costco won't have much choice; they are a publically-traded company, and although the CEO may be vocal about staying the course, he is ultimately liable to the shareholders.

No surprises there. They'd be stupid to keep such a policy of letting people return stuff months later.

[GYR8]

Hey Everyone,

Looks Like Viewsonic finally have some information about this tv here:
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcdtv/n3752w/

GYR8

[shneebs]

Hey Everyone,

Looks Like Viewsonic finally have some information about this tv here:
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcdtv/n3752w/

GYR8From your link, it says it has 3 x HDMI connectors! Looking good!

Shneebs.

[Vinman]

Don't be surprised if this does come to fruition - as more and more people abuse the policy.

It's always that way - a few idiots cook the golden goose, and ruin it for the rest of us. :mad:

[Mad.Whack]

It's always that way - a few idiots cook the golden goose, and ruin it for the rest of us. :mad:

A few? C'mon now there have been TONS of posts "showing off" themselves abusing the system. EX: getting refund after a price drop, trading in for a bigger tv for the same price etc.. etc...

[Shaf]

when is this going be on sale??

[yuprules]

Hey Everyone,

Looks Like Viewsonic finally have some information about this tv here:
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcdtv/n3752w/

GYR8


Thanks for the link!

Arrgggh, come on raise the darn Native Resolution (1366x768) so much for true 1080i from your PS3 ;)

[SuSHi]

Hey Everyone,

Looks Like Viewsonic finally have some information about this tv here:
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcdtv/n3752w/

GYR8

thanks for the link!

oh well no 1080p, i may just wait and see what the other companies will do with their next price dropped models

no need for 1080p right now considering ps3 is a waste of money

[lewdvig]

no need for 1080p right now considering ps3 is a waste of money

Right, people who dropped $500 on the PS2 five years ago did not get their money's worth did they???

These sets are an awesome deal at about $1000.

[SuSHi]

Right, people who dropped $500 on the PS2 five years ago did not get their money's worth did they???

These sets are an awesome deal at about $1000.

not for the 1st year they didn't, i bought one at launch and it never got used

don't assume everyone that talks down towards the ps3 is a nintendo or microsoft fanboy

[TorontoEh]

hi all, i think after looking at specs, this viewsonic is better then the $1299 special price FS had for SHARP 37' Wide LCD last weekend

but can you buy any protection plan from costco just so you're covered?

[SuSHi]

hi all, i think after looking at specs, this viewsonic is better then the $1299 special price FS had for SHARP 37' Wide LCD last weekend

but can you buy any protection plan from costco just so you're covered?

just buy it before costco changes their return policy and you should be fine

[NightRain]

just buy it before costco changes their return policy and you should be fine

Are they changing their return policy? If so to what?

[Shaf]

so when does it go on sale???

[GYR8]

Are they changing their return policy? If so to what?

There is absolutely *Zero* indication that anything regarding the return policy is changing. The post that was made earlier was speculation made by someone who doesn't work for the company. I would imagine that if anything did change, there would be a 'soft' transition and people would be notified well in advance.

GYR8

[parry]

Thanks GYR8. Looking forward to getting a Viewsonic 37" soon

Any idea if Costco has Boxing day sales for TV's too or?

[GYR8]

Thanks GYR8. Looking forward to getting a Viewsonic 37" soon

Any idea if Costco has Boxing day sales for TV's too or?

Although there is no defined 'sale', I think there were some coupon items tied into boxing day. Then again, there seems to be rarely a time where there aren't coupons on something :lol:

GYR8

[sporb]

thanks for the link!

oh well no 1080p, i may just wait and see what the other companies will do with their next price dropped models

no need for 1080p right now considering ps3 is a waste of money

1080p is used for more than just ps3... sure it's not used very much right now but in time you will be stuck with 720p wishing you had bought 1080p.

[Evil Techie]

1080p is used for more than just ps3... sure it's not used very much right now but in time you will be stuck with 720p wishing you had bought 1080p.

the thing is i think by the time 1080p gets full blown and fully implemented, prices of those panels will drop a bit more and better spec panels will come out and it would make a good time to upgrade then

that is for ppl that plan to upgrade again in a few years

[SuSHi]

1080p is used for more than just ps3... sure it's not used very much right now but in time you will be stuck with 720p wishing you had bought 1080p.

apparently the difference wouldn't be noticable on a 37" so it doesn't matter to me

i just need it for xbox 360, wii and my laptop so it should be fine

[tjumpfuzzy]

you all know your not going to buy the 37" when it comes out...you're just going to hear another model is going to get cheaper and continue to wait. i think all this talk of the price going down at costco is just a bunch of "BULL!" "a friend of a friend told me blah blah blah." show some actual proof. I'm going to start a new rumor.....the 42 ikai plasma is going down to $999 in november.

[sporb]

you all know your not going to buy the 37" when it comes out...you're just going to hear another model is going to get cheaper and continue to wait. i think all this talk of the price going down at costco is just a bunch of "BULL!" "a friend of a friend told me blah blah blah." show some actual proof. I'm going to start a new rumor.....the 42 ikai plasma is going down to $999 in november.

Sweet where is it? i'm going to get the 42" now!

[tetris]

who made the LCD panel for viewsonic?

[Evil Techie]

you all know your not going to buy the 37" when it comes out...you're just going to hear another model is going to get cheaper and continue to wait. i think all this talk of the price going down at costco is just a bunch of "BULL!" "a friend of a friend told me blah blah blah." show some actual proof. I'm going to start a new rumor.....the 42 ikai plasma is going down to $999 in november.

watch what you are saying

if you had taken the time to read the thread, ull see that people have asked costco customer service and there are computer records of this monitor coming in for $999

there is no doubt about it
when is the real question

we all have the take the plunge sometime when buying electronics, sure prices will keep dropping and newer and better stuff will keep coming out but we have to be satisfied with the price and what we are getting at some point

i live in an apartment and 37" is perfect, anything bigger would be too big
at a price of $999, its a justifiable purchase :cheesygri

[teknoluv]

1 of the reasons I am *waiting* on the 37" instead of taking the 32" right away is that the viewing area of the latter is actually smaller than the 27" thicky, which I find is the minimum size I could bear with the growth of my age (and accordingly the deterioration of my eyesight). Anything smaller than that, I can't even read the subtitles (yes, I view A LOT of foreign films.)

[sporb]

apparently the difference wouldn't be noticable on a 37" so it doesn't matter to me

i just need it for xbox 360, wii and my laptop so it should be fine

why? is there something wrong with your eyes? i'm not a professional, but i would recommend glasses.

[gewain]

Anyone got thoughts on using this as a PC monitor? I'm using the Daytek 32" @ 1280 x 768 and it's fine. Anyone used a Viewsonic 37" and if so how does it stand up against the Daytek or others for this purpose?

[sporb]

Anyone got thoughts on using this as a PC monitor? I'm using the Daytek 32" @ 1280 x 768 and it's fine. Anyone used a Viewsonic 37" and if so how does it stand up against the Daytek or others for this purpose?

the res on this tv is 1366x768.

[aidzhsiah]

you all know your not going to buy the 37" when it comes out...you're just going to hear another model is going to get cheaper and continue to wait. i think all this talk of the price going down at costco is just a bunch of "BULL!" "a friend of a friend told me blah blah blah." show some actual proof. I'm going to start a new rumor.....the 42 ikai plasma is going down to $999 in november.

Your very first post to RFD and you're blasting everyone in this thread with cynical accusations ? What a way to make an introduction.

I can't afford a 37" TV unless it's under $1,000 anyway. :D

[fl4wless]

Anyone got thoughts on using this as a PC monitor? I'm using the Daytek 32" @ 1280 x 768 and it's fine. Anyone used a Viewsonic 37" and if so how does it stand up against the Daytek or others for this purpose?

you should maybe look at the 1080p westinghouse or Acer 3705. the 1920x1080 might be a better option if its a fulltime PC monitor.

I have the dell 30inch at 2560x1600, i cant imagine 1280x768 being fine for everyday use on a screen 2 inches larger. To each their own i guess.

[tjumpfuzzy]

Okay here's my point. This thread has been on here for awhile and there is still no indication of when its going on sale. Are you not just going to have buyers remorse after waiting so long for a mid-level tv? So i guess my question basically comes down to is: After waiting so long with xmas/boxing day around the corner Is this tv such a great deal anymore?

[cannon_fodder]

you should maybe look at the 1080p westinghouse or Acer 3705. the 1920x1080 might be a better option if its a fulltime PC monitor.


I would suspect I am not alone in waiting for an LCD panel to support 1080p because this seems to be a baseline requirement for them supporting PC monitor resolution at 1920x1080. THAT is more important than whether an HD-DVD / BluRay player or HiDef source can support 1080p.

If the Viewsonic was at 37", had OTA HD tuner, supported 1920x1080 and could be had for $999 at Costco, now I'm very interested.

I think FS had a Digimate with those specs on a special Canada day sale or something 3 months ago . Not sure if it had an OTA HD tuner.

[T3rry]

watch what you are saying

if you had taken the time to read the thread, ull see that people have asked costco customer service and there are computer records of this monitor coming in for $999

there is no doubt about it
when is the real question

we all have the take the plunge sometime when buying electronics, sure prices will keep dropping and newer and better stuff will keep coming out but we have to be satisfied with the price and what we are getting at some point

i live in an apartment and 37" is perfect, anything bigger would be too big
at a price of $999, its a justifiable purchase :cheesygri

Not only that but with the 32" at a reg price of $899 and other 32" lcd's going on sale for even elss than that, it's not unreasonable to expect this 37 to come in at the mentioned pricepoint.

[jerryhussain]

I would suspect I am not alone in waiting for an LCD panel to support 1080p because this seems to be a baseline requirement for them supporting PC monitor resolution at 1920x1080. THAT is more important than whether an HD-DVD / BluRay player or HiDef source can support 1080p.

If the Viewsonic was at 37", had OTA HD tuner, supported 1920x1080 and could be had for $999 at Costco, now I'm very interested.

I think FS had a Digimate with those specs on a special Canada day sale or something 3 months ago . Not sure if it had an OTA HD tuner.
That wasnt 1080p neither did it have an OTA HD tuner.

If that Viewsonic is 1080p and has an built in OTA HD tuner, I'll gladly be the first one to open my wallet. ;)

[riskit]

Just got back from Costco in Laval, Quebec and they have a confirmed date of Oct 16, 2006 for in store delivery of the LCD.

[T3rry]

Just got back from Costco in Laval, Quebec and they have a confirmed date of Oct 16, 2006 for in store delivery of the LCD.

is that when they'll get it in the warehouse or when they'll put it out on the floor?

[riskit]

is that when they'll get it in the warehouse or when they'll put it out on the floor?

in-store on the floor as per associate and yes I did see it on the computer screen Oct 16, 2006

[Xeff]

nice, thanks for the date

[SuSHi]

why? is there something wrong with your eyes? i'm not a professional, but i would recommend glasses.

you did read the quote about how i was talking about the difference between 1080p and 720p right? your comment made no sense, wasn't very funny either so i'm a little confused

[sparrow_69]

I haven't read through the whole thread so I'm not sure if this was mentioned before, but did anyone notice on the specs page here: http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcdtv/n3752w/

that its listed as being available at Costco Canada only

[shiny]

Cool, see you guys at costco on the 16th of Oct.

[WLJ101]

Native Resolution 1366x768 ??

WhY? Why??

Does it mean it has lower resolution than a Acer 32" ??

[impostor]

in-store on the floor as per associate and yes I did see it on the computer screen Oct 16, 2006But did you see a $999 price:?:

[Evil Techie]

anyone in other provinces want to check?

maybe GY8R can check for us?

[coeternity]

is the costco membership deal still on? i might be interested in getting this lcd so better sign up now :lol:

[kaddy69]

Anyone know of a cheap stand for this TV. I don't want to wall mount.

[Evil Techie]

im looking for a cheap stand that will fit the base of this TV too

these viewsonics are kinda weird that their legs are on the sides far apart with no real support in the middle
so any stands thats less than the width of those 2 legs cannot hold this at all
so im worried that my current stand for the 27" CRT that i have is not wide enuf for this 37"'s base

[GYR8]

anyone in other provinces want to check?

maybe GY8R can check for us?

Hey there,

I wont be back at my location for a few days, but to my knowledge, I believe the tv wasnt scheduled to arrive until the end of the month.

I think the previous post of Oct 16th being the arrival date was probably a tad misleading. Often product arrives a few days to a week *after* whatever date is posted. Also, I think this product will be hitting the Port of Vancouver first, which means it will take a few days to get out to Non-B.C. warehouses.

Not that I am meaning to be a party-pooper, but when someone uses BOLD print to say that "Yes it will be there October 16th", I think that there will be some dissapointment. There is absolutely no way that a Costco employee can guarantee this as being etched-in-stone. I know, because I have been doing it for over 15 years now ;)

Although I still have to be careful with the information I provide, since others have confirmed information from other sources, I will check into it and give you a 'yes' or a 'no' answer about this supposed Oct 16th arrival. I can't reveal any other information, but there was a posting long ago about the arrival dates at the distribution level. If that has changed I will let you know as much as I can :)


GYR8

[T3rry]

im looking for a cheap stand that will fit the base of this TV too

these viewsonics are kinda weird that their legs are on the sides far apart with no real support in the middle
so any stands thats less than the width of those 2 legs cannot hold this at all
so im worried that my current stand for the 27" CRT that i have is not wide enuf for this 37"'s base

I'm just gonna use one of those 4" book shelves against the wall, accoridng to viewsonics site the tv base is 11" deep, and the book case is 12" deep so it's perfect :D


Anyone know the "Shipping size" of this? need to know if the box will fit in my car...

[riskit]

Hey there,

I wont be back at my location for a few days, but to my knowledge, I believe the tv wasnt scheduled to arrive until the end of the month.

I think the previous post of Oct 16th being the arrival date was probably a tad misleading. Often product arrives a few days to a week *after* whatever date is posted. Also, I think this product will be hitting the Port of Vancouver first, which means it will take a few days to get out to Non-B.C. warehouses.

Not that I am meaning to be a party-pooper, but when someone uses BOLD print to say that "Yes it will be there October 16th", I think that there will be some dissapointment. There is absolutely no way that a Costco employee can guarantee this as being etched-in-stone. I know, because I have been doing it for over 15 years now ;)

Although I still have to be careful with the information I provide, since others have confirmed information from other sources, I will check into it and give you a 'yes' or a 'no' answer about this supposed Oct 16th arrival. I can't reveal any other information, but there was a posting long ago about the arrival dates at the distribution level. If that has changed I will let you know as much as I can :)


GYR8

Just got back from Costco in Laval, Quebec and they have a confirmed date of Oct 16, 2006 for in store delivery of the LCD

in-store on the floor as per associate and yes I did see it on the computer screen Oct 16, 2006

These are the two statements I made, I think that people interested in this LCD should contact their local Costco and get their stores confirmation date of Delivery,

Since I do not work for Costco or know anyone who does I must rely on the answer I received from the reps who work there.

So call up your local Costco (http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Warehouse/locator.aspx?)and ask them when the Viewsonic N3752w LCD item number 109376 will be in stock.

[duckdown]

This is gonna rule... And just in time; I just bought an XBOX 360!

On a side note, I truely hope this thing is good for gaming, as thats gonna be it's #1 use

[Keops]

I just called the Gatineau store accross the Ottawa river. He told me he had 18 on order and they would show up Oct 16th in MONTREAL.

I'm guessing they have a distribution center in Montreal. He then said he would have them on his floor for customer sale 1-2 days after that date.

Forgot to confirm the price on the phone....

Keops

[fl4wless]

3 HDMI ports, nice!

[fl4wless]

Native Resolution 1366x768 ??

WhY? Why??

Does it mean it has lower resolution than a Acer 32" ??

what? i dont think there is a 32inch acer with 1920x1080 resolution. Maybe you are thinking of the 37inch....

1366x768 for this lcd was pretty much known from the start.

[Xeff]

I would wait for FS to sell the Digimate 37" at 999, I heard this is going on sale again before xmas. This TV is listed as 720p native on FS website but is acually a 1080p set, I missed out on the first sale of this TV but was told should be on sale again in mid novemer or december.
It's a very nice set.
Just thought I would let you people that want a 1080p set for 999 know about this.
Sorry if I upset anyone

[juggie]

This has to be the longest thread ever about a deal that doesnt exist (yet).

[Shaf]

So is this a TV or monitor?

[yuprules]

So is this a TV or monitor?

BOTH!

[Evil Techie]

Hey there,

I wont be back at my location for a few days, but to my knowledge, I believe the tv wasnt scheduled to arrive until the end of the month.

I think the previous post of Oct 16th being the arrival date was probably a tad misleading. Often product arrives a few days to a week *after* whatever date is posted. Also, I think this product will be hitting the Port of Vancouver first, which means it will take a few days to get out to Non-B.C. warehouses.

Not that I am meaning to be a party-pooper, but when someone uses BOLD print to say that "Yes it will be there October 16th", I think that there will be some dissapointment. There is absolutely no way that a Costco employee can guarantee this as being etched-in-stone. I know, because I have been doing it for over 15 years now ;)

Although I still have to be careful with the information I provide, since others have confirmed information from other sources, I will check into it and give you a 'yes' or a 'no' answer about this supposed Oct 16th arrival. I can't reveal any other information, but there was a posting long ago about the arrival dates at the distribution level. If that has changed I will let you know as much as I can :)


GYR8

that would be great
thank you GYR8 in advance

These are the two statements I made, I think that people interested in this LCD should contact their local Costco and get their stores confirmation date of Delivery,

Since I do not work for Costco or know anyone who does I must rely on the answer I received from the reps who work there.

So call up your local Costco (http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Warehouse/locator.aspx?)and ask them when the Viewsonic N3752w LCD item number 109376 will be in stock.

i tried calling Burnaby Costco in GVRD, cant get thru to their customer service, no one picking it up...

I just called the Gatineau store accross the Ottawa river. He told me he had 18 on order and they would show up Oct 16th in MONTREAL.

I'm guessing they have a distribution center in Montreal. He then said he would have them on his floor for customer sale 1-2 days after that date.

Forgot to confirm the price on the phone....

Keops

that gives us some hope but maybe its East coast only...
now we have to get some confirmation for west coast which may have diff arrival date

[teddy]

Anyways, finally it is coming soon:razz:

[Mouland]

Just caled Costco in Ottawa, the one on Merrivale, the woman said the 37 inch viewsonic would come in on the 16th, but would more likely be ready to buy on the 20th.

[SuSHi]

hopefully i can get my hands on 2 ps3's so to help "pay" this TV off to use for my 360 and wii :D

[juggie]

Just caled Costco in Ottawa, the one on Merrivale, the woman said the 37 inch viewsonic would come in on the 16th, but would more likely be ready to buy on the 20th.

did you confirm the price?

[pacman]

Guys, I'm a newbie when it comes to lcd televisions. I was going to buy the 32inch from Costco but have decided to hold out to see if the 37inch for $999 comes through.

My one question is.....will this 37inch TV be good for watching regular television, dvds etc?

I dont have a surround sound system, don't play video games etc. Will having 1 input instead of 2 cause any issues?

[Mouland]

Sorry, forgot to say,

Yes I confirmed the price for 999, and if you want to see what I image would be a comparable model, check out audiotronic's N3260W, Costcos is the N3252W, which to me looks the same except there are 3 HDMI ports on Costcos.

[gflux]

Everytime this thread makes it to the 1st or 2nd page, you guys drive me crazy with anticipation - and hopefully this actually becomes reality.

[SuSHi]

Everytime this thread makes it to the 1st or 2nd page, you guys drive me crazy with anticipation - and hopefully this actually becomes reality.

what leads you to believe this isn't going to happen other than your pessimism?

[skanji]

Sorry, forgot to say,

Yes I confirmed the price for 999, and if you want to see what I image would be a comparable model, check out audiotronic's N3260W, Costcos is the N3252W, which to me looks the same except there are 3 HDMI ports on Costcos.

AWESOME!!! FINALLY!

I was int he costco yesterday and saw a 42 inch LCD which was sitting beside a 42 inch Panosonic Plasma...the Plasma KICKED the LCD ass!!!

How does the viewsonic compare? Is it a no brainer that the Plasma will be better? The room I am putting it in has tons of light in it, so from what I have read, I have no choice but to go LCD.

Thoughts from LCD gurus would be appreciated!
-sk

[SuSHi]

AWESOME!!! FINALLY!

I was int he costco yesterday and saw a 42 inch LCD which was sitting beside a 42 inch Panosonic Plasma...the Plasma KICKED the LCD ass!!!

How does the viewsonic compare? Is it a no brainer that the Plasma will be better? The room I am putting it in has tons of light in it, so from what I have read, I have no choice but to go LCD.

Thoughts from LCD gurus would be appreciated!
-sk



what was the brand of the lcd? that could make a huge difference

generally speaking i'm using mine for gaming and my laptop media center so lcd is the way to go for me

i'm not sure exactly what the pros of plasma are though

[T3rry]

Looks like calgary's gettign hosed....

Just called and they said it's a new item and they don't have any on order at any of the 3 stores in calgary... that's dissapointing..

[jjtsl]

Just realized on the Viewsonic website that it does not come with any stand..... Where would one find stands that are compatible with this TV?

[Cas77]

Just realized on the Viewsonic website that it does not come with any stand..... Where would one find stands that are compatible with this TV?

I've never seen an LCD or Plasma that came with a stand...2 logs standing upright would be compatible...

[Evil Techie]

ooops what was i thinking

the N3752's bottom support is like this
http://www.viewsonic.com/images/media/n3752w_us_eng_lrg.jpg

im glad this panel will have a VGA in addition to the 3 HDMI!
i can use my laptop on it
awesome!

[yuprules]

Just realized on the Viewsonic website that it does not come with any stand..... Where would one find stands that are compatible with this TV?

I'm assuming you mean it has no TV STAND, not stand as in "it will fall down if you put it on a flat surface".

It does have LEGS so you can buy a TV stand and put it on it.

[parry]

This thread is quite popular these days. :)
I wonder how many people would grab the TV at this price.

[Centmo]

Looks like calgary's gettign hosed....

Just called and they said it's a new item and they don't have any on order at any of the 3 stores in calgary... that's dissapointing..

That is disappointing, I was planning on picking one of these up. Can it be ordered online? If not, maybe it's worth the drive to Red Deer or Edmonton, anyone know if there's Costcos there and if they'll stock them around Oct 16th?

[diabolical7]

what about dead pixels...

[gumby]

I haven't read through the whole thread so I'm not sure if this was mentioned before, but did anyone notice on the specs page here: http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcdtv/n3752w/

that its listed as being available at Costco Canada only

Yeah, we knew this back in late July when this thread started, just like the model N3252W is also Costco Canada's exclusive. The spec for this model N3752W finally made it to Viewsonic's web site.

The model is N3752W (not N3760W)and it's not listed on Viewsonic's web site yet, just like this current model N3252W that just came in to some Costco stores that wasn't released by Viewsonic until recently.

[coeternity]

so is this lcd good for pc use?

[BoxsterS]

With the N3760W retailing at Costco.ca for $1700 what makes you think the N3752 will retail for $999? Has this price been confirmed? Unless proven otherwise, I highly doubt you'll see a 37" Viewsonic for $999 CDN at Costco anytime soon.

[fl4wless]

so is this lcd good for pc use?

fulltime pc use ....37inch screen @ 1366x768, sounds pretty bad to me. I guess i would have to try it, but i doubt id like it coming from a 30inch Monitor w/ 2560x1600 resolution. Considering 19inch widescreen LCDs have 1440x900 resolutions, i think everything would be just blown up too large. Maybe if you sat 1-2 meters back it would look okay, but being 1-2 feet away, im thinking it would be brutal.

I think this LCD would be great as a HTPC, or for occasionally hooking up a pc to like a laptop. But do use it as your main monitor and not even use it as a TV (which is what it is meant to be used as) wouldnt be soemthing id recommend.


Maybe someone who actually uses a monitor this large could comment though...

[BoxsterS]

so is this lcd good for pc use?

Unless you like watching tennis and moving your head left and right repeatedly, I wouldn't recommend it. It's very nice to play games on it, though, but it's just too big for everyday use. I have the 32" Westinghouse, and it looks amazing in native resolution via VGA or DVI - it's actually quite usable as a PC monitor, but it's a personal preference I guess and I found myself moving my head left to right just too many times.

[SuSHi]

With the N3760W retailing at Costco.ca for $1700 what makes you think the N3752 will retail for $999? Has this price been confirmed? Unless proven otherwise, I highly doubt you'll see a 37" Viewsonic for $999 CDN at Costco anytime soon.

why do people keep questioning it, call up costco yourself if you don't believe? god we even have a costco employee vouching for us

damn pessimists, and you know they're going to buy one the second they get released too

[BoxsterS]

why do people keep questioning it, call up costco yourself if you don't believe? god we even have a costco employee vouching for us

damn pessimists, and you know they're going to buy one the second they get released too

With a reply like that I really, really hope you're right about this. I mean, I would really hate to be wrong after that statement.

[dealguy65]

With a reply like that I really, really hope you're right about this. I mean, I would really hate to be wrong after that statement.

Back in the thread a few different people have confirmed it including someone who works at Costco.

[Anessa]

ATSC tuner as well. What a deal.

[Beradon]

ATSC tuner as well. What a deal.
Correction. What a steal!

[coeternity]

Unless you like watching tennis and moving your head left and right repeatedly, I wouldn't recommend it. It's very nice to play games on it, though, but it's just too big for everyday use. I have the 32" Westinghouse, and it looks amazing in native resolution via VGA or DVI - it's actually quite usable as a PC monitor, but it's a personal preference I guess and I found myself moving my head left to right just too many times.

lol. u r right. i didnt think of that :lol:

[SuSHi]

With a reply like that I really, really hope you're right about this. I mean, I would really hate to be wrong after that statement.

stop talking, read the freaking thread and call costco... it's that easy

[Ben Doone]

This has to be the longest thread ever about a deal that doesnt exist (yet).

haha true! :lol: Come'on Oct 16!!

[magicray]

was at Costco on Oct 4 - saw the 27" with the new base model all new boxes. Nothing left of the 37" and the rep stated new ones coming in 2 weeks. Location was Woodbine & 7.

[mikewark]

Just talked to a contact at one of the Winnipeg costcos and they have confirmed the price and ball parked an arrival date for their store.

For Winnipeg we will have to wait till the 1st week of Nov till this hits the shelves.

Again he confirmed the price at $999!!!

Good Deal!

[gumby]

stop talking, read the freaking thread and call costco... it's that easy

The local Costco store may not have the delivery date in their computer, the model and price should be there though. The delivery date I got was for the Eastern Canada Warehouse in Quebec.

Costco.ca may drop their price on the N3760W or they might replace it with the model N3752W at the new price, who knows? With the 27" for $649 and the 32" for $889 right now at Costco, the price of $999 for the 37" is not that far off. Other large LCD TVs are dropping their prices like crazy and it won't be long before the N3760W will drop.

Seriously, for all the doubters out there you don't have to believe any of this. You can find out when they arrive in the stores, it's only 2 weeks away.

[T3rry]

I really hope my cotco is wrong and that we will receive these along with the rest of the world, i've been waiting 6 months for this and i am TIRED OF WAITING I NEED THE HDMI GOODNESS!!!!!

[jjrooster]

I am so very hard for this deal! I love this thread... the anticipation has been great. I wasn't planning to buy LCD till January, so this TV and price should stick around (or get better) till then right? Arrgh my tight pants!

[TorontoEh]

ATSC tuner as well. What a deal.

Hey Guys...couple of Q's...

What is ATSC? used for...

Also, i'm assuming this can work with my rogers digi box, will i be receiving OTA hd channels?

How big is this tv to fit? need delivery or can i put in my camry :)

[yuprules]

Hey Guys...couple of Q's...

What is ATSC? used for...

Also, i'm assuming this can work with my rogers digi box, will i be receiving OTA hd channels?

How big is this tv to fit? need delivery or can i put in my camry :)

1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATSC_tuner
2) If your Rogers box is HD and you subscribe to HD channels then yes. If your digital cable box is REGULAR TV, then you can only watch regular TV
3) It isn't out yet so no one knows the box size. You are not carrying it it on a bus, that's for sure :)

[jjrooster]

No, I think "built-in ATSC tuner" means you CAN receive OTA HD signals
(without the need for an external box, but perhaps needing an antenna for stronger reception)

from AVS forum:
If you're shopping for an HDTV that doesn't need a set-top box, look for "HD Built-in" or "built-in ATSC" tuner. ATSC is the digital standard used by over-the-air broadcasters. Don't trust the ads. Google the make and model number to see if the set you're interested has a built-in ATSC tuner. Better still, check the appropriate Displays forum right here on AVS.
Note that a "built-in NTSC" tuner only means that the set can receive standard analog television broadcasts.

[NeilMcduck]

How big is this tv to fit? need delivery or can i put in my camry :)

I'm sure you could fit a 37" in your Camry if you folded down your seats and took the TV out of the box...

Personally, I wouldn't want to leave my shiny new flat panel unprotected until it was in my living room.

Maybe we can start a Uhaul sharing thread for anyone who wants to save on delivery costs.

[Ben Doone]

Just called the Brampton and Mississauga Costco.
Info is consistent, price is $999, and eta is not confirmed, however
first shipment is destined for QC.

[Coppertone2005]

I'm sure you could fit a 37" in your Camry if you folded down your seats and took the TV out of the box...

Personally, I wouldn't want to leave my shiny new flat panel unprotected until it was in my living room.

Maybe we can start a Uhaul sharing thread for anyone who wants to save on delivery costs.


I have a 02' Honda Accord and it just barely fit the 32" with the box in the trunk, so a 37" may not fit in the trunk. I would try putting in the backseat area. I wouldn't try taking it out of the box for delivery. My 2 cents.

[parry]

Featurewise, Does anyone know if N3760W is better or N3752W?

[T3rry]

Featurewise, Does anyone know if N3760W is better or N3752W?

The 3752 is better, as stated in this thread many many many times.

It has 3 HDMI ports as opposed to one, and it has an ATSC tuner, which i could be wrong but i don't think the 3760 does.

[mikewark]

Guess i should have no problems getting it into my tahoe

hehe

Sorry..had to be a clown:cheesygri

[The_dream2k]

For the first time Quebec is getting a hot deal before everyone else!! wooohoo:lol:

[shiny]

How is this compared to 37" Westinghouse at BB (1250$ with trade in old tube TV)?

[parry]

How is this compared to 37" Westinghouse at BB (1250$ with trade in old tube TV)?

Good point. I didn't know they have a trade in old tube TV event. What exactly is it?

[cannon_fodder]

At the risk of making a useless post, I just got back from Costco and noticed a wall mount for about $87. I didn't take a good look at it, but it didn't look like it had any tilting/swiveling capabilities, but IIRC it would support larger flat screen TVs (up to 50" ?).

[shiny]

Good point. I didn't know they have a trade in old tube TV event. What exactly is it?

info here http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348352

[prod]

At the risk of making a useless post, I just got back from Costco and noticed a wall mount for about $87. I didn't take a good look at it, but it didn't look like it had any tilting/swiveling capabilities, but IIRC it would support larger flat screen TVs (up to 50" ?).

They had two mounts for about the same price. The arm mount looked like a good choice for a 37", it has tilt but not as much as some others, looked about 5-10 degrees. I *think* it supports 80lbs IIRC.
They also had a flat wall mount that only tilts, but can hold up to 200lbs.

[gmark2000]

The 3752 is better, as stated in this thread many many many times.

It has 3 HDMI ports as opposed to one, and it has an ATSC tuner, which i could be wrong but i don't think the 3760 does.

I have the 3760 and it indeed has the ATSC tuner (just last night I watched Lost and The Nine in HD from Buffalo signals). I will probably return mine because of picture quality adjustment issues and to switch to the 3752, saving $700+ in turn.

[kendorama]

Does having an ASTC tuner let you get feeds without a cable line coming in?

[Evil Techie]

Does having an ASTC tuner let you get feeds without a cable line coming in?

you will need HDTV antenna to get reception from Off-The-Air HDTV signals
that also depends on your location and what TV stations offers HDTV feeds OTA in your city

[NightRain]

you will need HDTV antenna to get reception from Off-The-Air HDTV signals
that also depends on your location and what TV stations offers HDTV feeds OTA in your city

I'd like to get a nice HD monitor at 37" or 42" for around $1000 since I have zero need for the tuner. I don't have any local HD over the air signals here and none of my TV I use now have the tuner in use since I either use HD or normal digital boxes from Rogers.

[fl4wless]

Which should i get?

This viewsonic for 999+13% = $1130
or
this:
http://www.thesourcecc.com/estore/Product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=LCDTelevisions&product=1615052
acer AT4220A
- 42inch, 1366x768, 1200:1 contrast, 1 HDMI and 1 DVI, 8ms, analog tuner (I have no need for a HD tuner, as there is no OTA where i live)

The Bay has it for 1799-15% = 1529+13% = 1727.xx But using 20% Gift Cards, it comes to under 1400 Tax in.



Kinda torn here...

[Evil Techie]

there are HDMI switches out there
but they do cost a lot though
or there are some built into high end receivers

so take those into account and also if you really need 3 HDMI inputs or not (will you have that many boxes providing HDMI outputs?)

[T3rry]

there are HDMI switches out there
but they do cost a lot though
or there are some built into high end receivers

so take those into account and also if you really need 3 HDMI inputs or not (will you have that many boxes providing HDMI outputs?)

It's always better to have too many rather than not enough

[WalnutCrunch]

It's always better to have too many rather than not enough

I totally agree. I regret that I only have 1 HDMI input on my TV. If I get another HDMI device, I'll need to upgrade my hardware (new av receiver, new TV, or new HDMI switch). :(

[Gentile]

I have a 2x1 HDMI switch from Monoprice that works flawlessly between my HD DVR box and HTPC to my projecctor, and it was cheap too!

[koncise]

Sorry for the slightly off topic question, but does anyone know how much the employee discount at Costco is? A guy from my hockey team works there, but I'd rather not impose unless its REALLY worth it :razz:

[MattAu]

Anyone know what the price is for the N3252w model? It was 899.99 before the 37" was announced and before the 27" was $650. Any idea of what the price will be in two to three weeks time?

[SuSHi]

Anyone know what the price is for the N3252w model? It was 899.99 before the 37" was announced and before the 27" was $650. Any idea of what the price will be in two to three weeks time?

799?

[Cas77]

Sorry for the slightly off topic question, but does anyone know how much the employee discount at Costco is? A guy from my hockey team works there, but I'd rather not impose unless its REALLY worth it :razz:

zero. nada. zilch.

[duckdown]

I called my local Costco today to inquire about it and they said they were well aware of it, and should be in before the end of October...as someone else said, the details were pretty much the same as everyone elses

She also said that supposedly Costco is well aware of the high demand and hopefully should have alot of units...I'm getting excited!!!

[GYR8]

Sorry for the slightly off topic question, but does anyone know how much the employee discount at Costco is? A guy from my hockey team works there, but I'd rather not impose unless its REALLY worth it :razz:



We don't get discounts on products. Just a complimentary membership ;)

GYR8

[Rosico]

We don't get discounts on products. Just a complimentary membership ;)

GYR8

Will you at least get first crack at the costco PS3's? ;)

[koncise]

We don't get discounts on products. Just a complimentary membership ;)

GYR8

Is that really it? or should I assume more from that wink?

I dunno, just a free membership seems kinda tight...

[kaddy69]

That sucks that the Calgary Costco's are not getting any? :mad:

I'm going to enquire more about this when I get back into town.

[zenith]

That sucks that the Calgary Costco's are not getting any? :mad:

I'm going to enquire more about this when I get back into town.

Tonight I was in SW costco in calgary. One nice guy checked their system for me . It shows: 1000 on order. will be in BC 23/Oct. So probably in Calgary either last week of this month or first week of November .:cheesygri

[GYR8]

Is that really it? or should I assume more from that wink?

I dunno, just a free membership seems kinda tight...

Sorry to mislead with the wink! We actually only do get a free membership. It maybe 'tight' but can you imagine the logistics with applying employee discounts for hundreds of employees per store? Or the ever-famous 'new best friend' variable? :lol:

GYR8

[GYR8]

Will you at least get first crack at the costco PS3's? ;)

I don't even know if we are getting any. Last year when the XBox360 came out, we had about 16 - 20 units available on the release day. I knew we had them, but wasnt allowed to hold one for myself, as that would be total conflict of interest. So the day of the release (which was my day off), I lined up outside like everyone else and was #12 in line. I kept my mouth shut and waited patiently like everyone else. :cheesygri

GYR8

[Evil Techie]

so GYR8, any words on N3752 for west coast yet?
or is it something that a costco employee should not be telling the public?

dont want to get u into any trouble

[GYR8]

so GYR8, any words on N3752 for west coast yet?
or is it something that a costco employee should not be telling the public?

dont want to get u into any trouble

hey there,

Its already been mentioned a few times, and since I wasnt the one to let the cat out the bag, I wont get into trouble for saying 'yes they are correct'. Other Costco employees are already confirming this too.

So yes, the END of October is more realistic. The price that has been mentioned IS happening. Just hang in there until someone comes on here with a "I BOUGHT ONE!!!!" message. :cheesygri

GYR8

[impostor]

hey there,

Its already been mentioned a few times, and since I wasnt the one to let the cat out the bag, I wont get into trouble for saying 'yes they are correct'. Other Costco employees are already confirming this too.

So yes, the END of October is more realistic. The price that has been mentioned IS happening. Just hang in there until someone comes on here with a "I BOUGHT ONE!!!!" message. :cheesygri

GYR8Wow, that's quite the 180 from this post (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3795134&postcount=191) :razz:
Here is what I *can* tell you:
-September / October is not going to happen for any 37" tv @ $999 at CostcoLooks like someone finally managed to get out of their state of denial. :rolleyes: ;)

[dealguy65]

I have a 2x1 HDMI switch from Monoprice that works flawlessly between my HD DVR box and HTPC to my projecctor, and it was cheap too!

hey, is this the HDMI switch your bought from Monoprice?
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011001&p_id=2786&seq=1&format=2
$28.93

[T3rry]

Sorry to mislead with the wink! We actually only do get a free membership. It maybe 'tight' but can you imagine the logistics with applying employee discounts for hundreds of employees per store? Or the ever-famous 'new best friend' variable? :lol:

GYR8

Wal-mart does it :P

[koncise]

Wal-mart does it :P

yeah, but wal-mart is only 10% off... at least at my friends wal-mart in markham... which isnt very much

[Gentile]

hey, is this the HDMI switch your bought from Monoprice?
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011001&p_id=2786&seq=1&format=2
$28.93

Thats the one

[ScoFF]

isn't anyone concerned that this isn't even 1080i?

[Cas77]

isn't anyone concerned that this isn't even 1080i?

It is 1080i....

[riskit]

It is 1080i....


but it does not have 1080p

[ScoFF]

Oops, I glanced at is and saw:
Native Resolution 1366x768
INPUT SIGNAL TV/Video Compatibility 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i
COMPATIBILITY PC 1360x768 (preferred), 1024x768, 1280x768, 1280x1024
Mac®* Power Mac™ G3/G4/G5 up to 1280x1024

What's native resolution?

[riskit]

.

What's native resolution?

native resolution - The resolution at which a TV or monitor is designed to display images. Image signals higher or lower than a specified native resolution must be converted to be displayed accurately. For example, a TV with a native resolution of 1080i can display 1080i images but may upconvert 480p images to 1080i. In contrast, a TV with a native resolution of 480p must downconvert a 1080i signal to 480p for display. CRT-based projection TVs can have more than one native resolution, but fixed-pixel displays such as LCD and DLP are limited to display one resolution and convert all others.

More infohttp://www.cnet.com/4520-7874_1-5107912-15.html

or

The native resolution of a LCD, LCoS or other flat panel display refers to its single fixed resolution. As an LCD display consists of a fixed raster, it cannot change resolution to match the signal being displayed as a CRT monitor can, meaning that optimal display quality can be reached only when the signal input matches the native resolution. An image where the number of pixels is same as in the image source and where the pixels are perfectly aligned to the pixels in the source is said to be pixel perfect.

While CRT monitors can usually display images at various resolutions, a LCD monitor has to rely on interpolation (scaling of the image), which causes a loss of image quality. A LCD has to scale up a smaller image to fit into the area of the native resolution. This is the same principle as taking a smaller image in an image editing program and enlarging it; the smaller image loses its sharpness when it is expanded. This is especially problematic as most resolutions are in a 4:3 aspect ratio (640×480, 800×600, 1024×768, 1600×1200) but there are odd resolutions that are not, notably 1280×1024. If a user were to map 1024×768 to a 1280×1024 screen there would be distortion as well as some image errors, as there is not a one-to-one mapping with regards to pixels. This results in noticeable quality loss and the image is much less sharp.

Some resolutions work well, however, if they are exact multiples of smaller image sizes. For example, a 1600×1200 LCD will display an 800×600 image well, as each of the pixels in the image will be represented by a block of four on the larger display, without interpolation. Since 800×600 is an integer factor of 1600×1200, scaling will not adversely affect the image.

Because of native resolution, some people who play computer games refuse to use LCD monitors, since the native resolution is so high that it may cause frame rate issues when playing a game. However, standard resolutions that make up a perfect fraction of the native resolution can look better (e.g. 4 native pixels per pixel of small resolution).

Most LCD monitors are able to inform the PC of their native resolution using Extended display identification data (EDID). Some liquid crystal display televisions however, especially with 1366 x 768 pixels, fail to provide their native resolution and only provide a set of lower resolutions, resulting in a less than picture perfect output.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_resolution

[story]

isn't anyone concerned that this isn't even 1080i?

For those that need 1080i and assuming they would focus more on quality and highend stuff like HD-DVD, BlueRay, HDTV receiver etc. Most likely they would choose a product that's suitable for that purpose & would be a concern for them.

This Viewsonic is target for another market that don't need that yet so shouldn't be a concern.

[WalnutCrunch]

It is 1080i....

More precisely, this TV will accept 1080i input, as well as 480i/p and 720p.

Its native resolution is 768p, which means all of these signals are scaled to 768p and displayed.

Anything at 720p native res or above is considered HDTV. Whether or not you can tell the difference between the different HDTV resolutions depends on a number of things like distance, what you're watching, and quality of the TV. I would say 768p is OK for most people just watching HDTV and not sitting too close. For those who want to hook up a computer to it or would like to sit closer, go for a display with 1080p native resolution.

[GYR8]

Wow, that's quite the 180 from this post (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3795134&postcount=191) :razz:
Looks like someone finally managed to get out of their state of denial. :rolleyes: ;)

Hahaha Yeah Yeah :|

I can't really remember that far back, but I think I made that comment, knowing that the end of October was the approximate arrival. So I figured the beginning of November would be the actual time they would show up.

Anyone else care to make fun of me? It's a limited time offer! :lol:

GYR8

[SuSHi]

Hahaha Yeah Yeah :|

I can't really remember that far back, but I think I made that comment, knowing that the end of October was the approximate arrival. So I figured the beginning of November would be the actual time they would show up.

Anyone else care to make fun of me? It's a limited time offer! :lol:

GYR8

i think i did my fair share when you 1st said that

[duckdown]

The suspense is killing me

I need to enjoy this new XBOX360 to the fullest with some nice high-def gaming

[Evil Techie]

Hahaha Yeah Yeah :|

I can't really remember that far back, but I think I made that comment, knowing that the end of October was the approximate arrival. So I figured the beginning of November would be the actual time they would show up.

Anyone else care to make fun of me? It's a limited time offer! :lol:

GYR8

hahaa lets all poke fun at GYR8
lol jk

ive got a newbie question about this LCDTV
if i have 1080p source and plug it into this TV, will it automatically downscale it to 768p?

[Asun]

Can someone actually tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 37" screen? Keep in mind that 1080p has 50% more resolution than 720p. Aargh.. should I wait for this TV or just get the Westinghouse 37" which support 1080p.. decision, decision...

[growler]

Can someone actually tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 37" screen? Keep in mind that 1080p has 50% more resolution than 720p. Aargh.. should I wait for this TV or just get the Westinghouse 37" which support 1080p.. decision, decision...

I thought that this 37" has a vertical resolution of 768 pixels. You aren't going to get much more details on the screen because of that if you are driving it at 1080i/p versus 720p. Your going to need a LCD screen that has a native resolution of 1920x1080 pixels to take advantage of that.

[WalnutCrunch]

I thought that this 37" has a vertical resolution of 768 pixels. You aren't going to get much more details on the screen because of that if you are driving it at 1080i/p versus 720p. Your going to need a LCD screen that has a native resolution of 1920x1080 pixels to take advantage of that.

I think that's what Asun is asking. Can one tell the diff between a 1080p 37" screen vs a 720p 37" screen. I think the difference is negligible if you're going to sit 7-8 feet away. If you're going to sit closer, a 1080p might look better.

Of course this all depends on other things like the source, etc.

[ah802]

This is probably not the right forum for my question, but on the other hand I don't see a better venue.

At present I own an n2750w Viewsonic... have been quite happy with it, but I'm thinking of a bigger panel size (like the 32-37" versions of the same thing). It kinda looks like the same specs on the web site (other than the style/base/weight) and the N3752W at Costco having a slightly better contrast spec (ViewSonics web site).. not sure what the N3760W gives you better.

Anyone have a better handle on the 'improvements/downgrades' between the units.. 32" and 37"?

I saw the N3251 with a PC resolution of 1360x768 which isn't the native res of 1366x768... translation= NOT pixel sharp, nor 1:1 aspect. And looking at the display demo instore... it's clearly not pixel sharp! Anyone know if this problem extends to the other units? Can a custom driver get around this limitation... and can you use the DVI for the PC input 1:1?

The N3251W at Staples (it's going on sale for $899 Oct, 10th) which means extended 4 year warranty can be bought.

I've also heard of PIP problems on the 37" remote? Anyone?

[aidzhsiah]

I agree that the difference should be negligible. Especially if you don't have a 1080p source like a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. Quite honestly, after the big jump from 480i to 720p/1080i, everything else is baby steps forward.

[jackboot]

I saw the N3251 with a PC resolution of 1360x768 which isn't the native res of 1366x768... translation= NOT pixel sharp, nor 1:1 aspect. And looking at the display demo instore... it's clearly not pixel sharp! Anyone know if this problem extends to the other units? Can a custom driver get around this limitation... and can you use the DVI for the PC input 1:1?

Getting native resolution on HDTVs is a major PITA most of the time. For the new 1080p sets this will be less of an issue since they use a standard PC resolution. For 720p sets this IS an issue though. 1366x768 is NOT a standard PC resolution (as you have noticed) and getting the TV to display native resolution is often difficult or impossible.

Only some video cards have the ability out-of-the-box to output the non-standard resolution of 1366x768. Others can output said resolution by creating a custom resolution with the card's drivers (nVidia). If the TV has a VGA input and your card can output 1366x768 either natively or via a custom resolution you are good to go. Getting custom resolution via DVI is another story still though:( Your card may be able to output 1366x768 over DVI but if your TV doesn't have a DVI input you are probably hooped. A TV's HDMI input expects a 720p signal - not a 768p signal. More than likely the set won't have been set up to accept and correctly display 1:1 a 1366x768 signal through its HDMI port. This is frustrating to me - why can't the manufacturers anticipate people wanting to use the set with an HTPC source and allowing for native resolution over HDMI?!

I am currently displaying native resolution on my 42" LCD from my HTPC's onboard Intel VGA graphics. The Intel video automatically outputs 1366x768. It looks great and is obviously 1:1 mapping, but it is also obvious that a digital connection would look even better. I am trying to locate an appropriate nVidia PCI video card (fanless, half-height) to experiment and see if my set (Vizio) will allow me to send it native resolution over DVI.

Summary: If you want native resolution over DVI - get a TV with a DVI input like a Westinghouse. Anything else will most likely not work. If you are OK with VGA - make things easy on yourself and use Intel integrated graphics or an nVidia video card which allows for custom resolution. Powerstrip with ATI cards are a poor solution IMO due to the complexity and annoyance of having to run another program just to get the right resolution.

[spider]

Getting native resolution on HDTVs is a major PITA most of the time. For the new 1080p sets this will be less of an issue since they use a standard PC resolution. For 720p sets this IS an issue though. 1366x768 is NOT a standard PC resolution (as you have noticed) and getting the TV to display native resolution is often difficult or impossible.

Only some video cards have the ability out-of-the-box to output the non-standard resolution of 1366x768. Others can output said resolution by creating a custom resolution with the card's drivers (nVidia). If the TV has a VGA input and your card can output 1366x768 either natively or via a custom resolution you are good to go. Getting custom resolution via DVI is another story still though:( Your card may be able to output 1366x768 over DVI but if your TV doesn't have a DVI input you are probably hooped. A TV's HDMI input expects a 720p signal - not a 768p signal. More than likely the set won't have been set up to accept and correctly display 1:1 a 1366x768 signal through its HDMI port. This is frustrating to me - why can't the manufacturers anticipate people wanting to use the set with an HTPC source and allowing for native resolution over HDMI?!

I am currently displaying native resolution on my 42" LCD from my HTPC's onboard Intel VGA graphics. The Intel video automatically outputs 1366x768. It looks great and is obviously 1:1 mapping, but it is also obvious that a digital connection would look even better. I am trying to locate an appropriate nVidia PCI video card (fanless, half-height) to experiment and see if my set (Vizio) will allow me to send it native resolution over DVI.

Summary: If you want native resolution over DVI - get a TV with a DVI input like a Westinghouse. Anything else will most likely not work. If you are OK with VGA - make things easy on yourself and use Intel integrated graphics or an nVidia video card which allows for custom resolution. Powerstrip with ATI cards are a poor solution IMO due to the complexity and annoyance of having to run another program just to get the right resolution.

Great info ! Native resolution is the best resolution .


Move this thread out of Hot Deals

[SuSHi]

Great info ! Native resolution is the best resolution .


Move this thread out of Hot Deals

why are we moving this thread?

[ah802]

why are we moving this thread?Good question, I spiced up my question with N3251W at Staples on sale for $899 Oct, 10th. Which allowed me to qualify the message as 'hot' or at least in line with 'deals' and still get my question noticed.

Considering this set has hdmi input, I'm still not clear if a PC signal is possible, or only through the twisted VGA set-up. I'm smelling a problem getting native on the digital input.

[cub reporter]

I've heard reports that the VGA/DVI output isn't that good on this model? Can anyone expand on this? How does the output look from a PC?

[cub reporter]

Getting native resolution on HDTVs is a major PITA most of the time. For the new 1080p sets this will be less of an issue since they use a standard PC resolution. For 720p sets this IS an issue though. 1366x768 is NOT a standard PC resolution (as you have noticed) and getting the TV to display native resolution is often difficult or impossible.

Only some video cards have the ability out-of-the-box to output the non-standard resolution of 1366x768. Others can output said resolution by creating a custom resolution with the card's drivers (nVidia). If the TV has a VGA input and your card can output 1366x768 either natively or via a custom resolution you are good to go. Getting custom resolution via DVI is another story still though:( Your card may be able to output 1366x768 over DVI but if your TV doesn't have a DVI input you are probably hooped. A TV's HDMI input expects a 720p signal - not a 768p signal. More than likely the set won't have been set up to accept and correctly display 1:1 a 1366x768 signal through its HDMI port. This is frustrating to me - why can't the manufacturers anticipate people wanting to use the set with an HTPC source and allowing for native resolution over HDMI?!

I am currently displaying native resolution on my 42" LCD from my HTPC's onboard Intel VGA graphics. The Intel video automatically outputs 1366x768. It looks great and is obviously 1:1 mapping, but it is also obvious that a digital connection would look even better. I am trying to locate an appropriate nVidia PCI video card (fanless, half-height) to experiment and see if my set (Vizio) will allow me to send it native resolution over DVI.

Summary: If you want native resolution over DVI - get a TV with a DVI input like a Westinghouse. Anything else will most likely not work. If you are OK with VGA - make things easy on yourself and use Intel integrated graphics or an nVidia video card which allows for custom resolution. Powerstrip with ATI cards are a poor solution IMO due to the complexity and annoyance of having to run another program just to get the right resolution.

1366x768 is not the default for all LCD's. Some use the more standard 1360x768. I also disagree with your assessment of DVI over VGA. VGA looks just as good on my 42" LCD as the DVI output. Both outputs are extremely sharp at the native res.

[Evil Techie]

i wouldnt just avoid this panel because it doesnt have DVI

there are plenty of DVI->HDMI cables out there for a good price

monoprice.com for example

most of the time, DVI-D does display better images than VGA though
im guessing u were using DVI-A

[GYR8]

I've heard reports that the VGA/DVI output isn't that good on this model? Can anyone expand on this? How does the output look from a PC?

I find it somewhat odd that this statement would be valid considering that this model hasnt even arrived yet. It sounds like more people are just assuming things based on silly interpretations. Let's wait until the model arrives and there is some real world feedback ;)

GYR8

[SuSHi]

I find it somewhat odd that this statement would be valid considering that this model hasnt even arrived yet. It sounds like more people are just assuming things based on silly interpretations. Let's wait until the model arrives and there is some real world feedback ;)

GYR8

yeah this is a 3752 not a 3760, they're completely different models

[jackboot]

i wouldnt just avoid this panel because it doesnt have DVI

there are plenty of DVI->HDMI cables out there for a good price

monoprice.com for example

most of the time, DVI-D does display better images than VGA though
im guessing u were using DVI-A

I wouldn't avoid this set just because it doesn't have DVI either - unless I was planning on using the TV with an HTPC source

A DVI->HDMI cable will certainly solve the problem of the physical connection - but whether or not the TV's harware will allow a 1366x768 signal over its HDMI port is yet to be seen. Most TVs don't. In fact I'm not personally aware of one single 720p TV that will allow a 1366x768 signal to be displayed over its HDMI port. If anyone knows of one please tell.

DVI-A isn't digital and it isn't what we are discussing here.

Cub Reporter: Anyone that has seen VGA and DVI signals from the same source on the same display knows that DVI is superior. I don't know how you are coming to the conclusion that they look the same. It is the same difference when comparing component video to HDMI video on the same TV from a DVD player. The digital image looks superior. It is shockingly so on a Dell 2405 with a computer as the source in my experience.

[lewdvig]

This thread is dumb. It started in July and the set is still not available. How is this hot?

There are lots of sets available with similar specs for similar dollars right now.

There should be a rule that a hot item must be available at time of post.

[michelb]

...

ive got a newbie question about this LCDTV
if i have 1080p source and plug it into this TV, will it automatically downscale it to 768p?

According to the specs, this TV will NOT accept a 1080p signal - if you have a source that ONLY does 1080p, you cannot use this TV to watch it. It only accepts 480i/p, 720p or 1080i. Similarly, if you connect it to a computer running 1600x1200 or something, you will not get a picture - the TV does not know how to process the signal. That being said, you're probably very unlikey to get a source (e.g. HD-DVD, PS3, whatever) that ONLY does 1080p, chances are, the source will also be able to output 1080i or 720p or 480p. In answer to a related question, if you put a 1080i source (or a 480i/p) source, it will automatically convert to 1366x768 (LCDs are fixed resolution - i.e. the only image it can display is 1366x768, anything else is scaled to that resolution).

[SuSHi]

This thread is dumb. It started in July and the set is still not available. How is this hot?

There are lots of sets available with similar specs for similar dollars right now.

There should be a rule that a hot item must be available at time of post.

who said you had to participate?

[aidzhsiah]

This thread is dumb. It started in July and the set is still not available. How is this hot?

There are lots of sets available with similar specs for similar dollars right now.

There should be a rule that a hot item must be available at time of post.

LOL Come now, play nice.

Sure, it's a little ridiculous how large the thread is without an actual physical product but a 37" for $999 *is* a hot deal.

Not everyone has the same definition of a 'hot' deal anyway. I don't want any Stax chips or a new dental plan or to go to the US for a car... doesn't mean others can't think it's hot and are willing to wait for it. I mean, look at all the Wii and PS3 pre-order threads :D

[cub reporter]

I find it somewhat odd that this statement would be valid considering that this model hasnt even arrived yet. It sounds like more people are just assuming things based on silly interpretations. Let's wait until the model arrives and there is some real world feedback ;)

GYR8

Your reply is also somewhat odd because the majority of people would be able to deduce that the panel, used in the N3760, is the same panel that's used in the N3752

[cub reporter]

I wouldn't avoid this set just because it doesn't have DVI either - unless I was planning on using the TV with an HTPC source

A DVI->HDMI cable will certainly solve the problem of the physical connection - but whether or not the TV's harware will allow a 1366x768 signal over its HDMI port is yet to be seen. Most TVs don't. In fact I'm not personally aware of one single 720p TV that will allow a 1366x768 signal to be displayed over its HDMI port. If anyone knows of one please tell.

DVI-A isn't digital and it isn't what we are discussing here.

Cub Reporter: Anyone that has seen VGA and DVI signals from the same source on the same display knows that DVI is superior. I don't know how you are coming to the conclusion that they look the same. It is the same difference when comparing component video to HDMI video on the same TV from a DVD player. The digital image looks superior. It is shockingly so on a Dell 2405 with a computer as the source in my experience.

My condolences to the crappy analog circuitry in the Dell 2405. Sorry, but this isn't 1999 anymore and VGA has come a long way since then. Like, I said, I cannot discern a difference in image quality on my 42" LCD in DVI or VGA mode. Is DVI slightly better? Yes, but the difference is so minor and indistinguishable that I doubt you would even pick up the differences on a quality monitor. Also, the 360 looks damn sharp on VGA and component and I doubt HDMI or DVI would make it look any sharper than it already looks. Like I said, it all depends on the inards of the monitor.

[SuSHi]

Your reply is also somewhat odd because the majority of people would be able to deduce that the panel, used in the N3760, is the same panel that's used in the N3752

yeah but that's the furthest from the truth, there's no reason it has to be based on the 3760

it has totally different specs including contrast which is built into the screen so obviously something has changed

all xbox 360 systems look the same on the outside but some use samsung drives and some use toshiba, both which affect the overall performance of the system

it's like assuming everyone with the last name smith is blood related

[Shredder59]

This thread rocks. It's like Page Six of RFD or something. hey Admin, maybe you should consider a forum just for "Rumors of Deals", they may or may not actually come to pass, but it sure is fun talking about them!

[Evil Techie]

lets leave the bickering for later when we actually have the 3752 in our hands

the specs are the same though
except for the amount of HDMI and minor details
but panel should be the same

but DVI digital should always be superior to VGA regardless of what year it is, there will still be a difference even next year
VGA technology hasnt changed terribly that much

btw i dont think there are that many rumour deal threads around to warrant a new section of the forums for it

[SuSHi]

This thread rocks. It's like Page Six of RFD or something. hey Admin, maybe you should consider a forum just for "Rumors of Deals", they may or may not actually come to pass, but it sure is fun talking about them!

maybe you should consider leaving the comedy to the professionals...

take the time to read the entire thread before jumping in and shooting off your opinion

[SuSHi]

lets leave the bickering for later when we actually have the 3752 in our hands

the specs are the same though
except for the amount of HDMI and minor details
but panel should be the same

but DVI digital should always be superior to VGA regardless of what year it is, there will still be a difference even next year
VGA technology hasnt changed terribly that much

btw i dont think there are that many rumour deal threads around to warrant a new section of the forums for it

how is this still a rumour?

just because it's not in stores yet?

then all the ps3 and wii threads are all "rumour" posts, because you never know... despite confirmation of the companies and price and manufacturing and shipping estimates and release dates, the ps3 and wii may not exist, much like the status of this TV

[cub reporter]

PART 1

DVI vs. HDMI vs. Component Video -- Which is Better?

As DVI and HDMI connections become more and more widely used, we are often asked: which is better, DVI (or HDMI) or component video? The answer, as it happens, is not cut-and-dried.

First, to clear away one element that can be confusing: DVI and HDMI are exactly the same as one another, image-quality-wise. The principal differences are that HDMI carries audio as well as video, and uses a different type of connector, but both use the same encoding scheme, and that's why a DVI source can be connected to an HDMI monitor, or vice versa, with a DVI/HDMI cable, with no intervening converter box.

The upshot of this article--in case you're not inclined to read all the details--is that it's very hard to predict whether a digital DVI or HDMI connection will produce a better or worse image than an analog component video connection. There will often be significant differences between the digital and the analog signals, but those differences are not inherent in the connection type and instead depend upon the characteristics of the source device (e.g., your DVD player) and the display device (e.g., your TV set). Why that is, however, requires a bit more discussion.

What are DVI, HDMI and Component Video?

DVI/HDMI and Component Video are all video standards which support a variety of resolutions, but which deliver the signal from the source to the display in very different ways. The principal important difference is that DVI/HDMI deliver the signal in a digital format, much the same way that a file is delivered from one computer to another along a network, while Component Video is an analog format, delivering the signal not as a bitstream, but as a set of continuously varying voltages representing (albeit indirectly, as we'll get to in a moment) the red, green and blue components of the signal.

Both DVI/HDMI and Component Video deliver signals as discrete red, green, and blue color components, together with sync information which allows the display to determine when a new line, or a new frame, begins. The DVI/HDMI standard delivers these along three data channels in a format called T.M.D.S., which stands for "Transmission Minimized Differential Signaling." Big words aside, the T.M.D.S. format basically involves a blue channel to which horizontal and vertical sync are added, and separate green and red channels.

Component Video is delivered, similarly, with the color information split up three ways. However, component video uses a "color-difference" type signal, which consists of Luminance (the "Y", or "green," channel, representing the total brightness of the image), Red Minus Luminance (the "Pr," or "Red," channel), and Blue Minus Luminance (the "Pb," or "Blue," channel). The sync pulses for both horizontal and vertical are delivered on the Y channel. The display calculates the values of red, green and blue from the Y, Pb, and Pr signals.

Both signal types, then, are fundamentally quite similar; they break up the image in similar ways, and deliver the same type of information to the display, albeit in different forms. How they differ, as we'll see, will depend to a great extent upon the particular characteristics of the source and display devices, and can depend upon cabling as well.

Isn't Digital Just Better?

It is often supposed by writers on this subject that "digital is better." Digital signal transfer, it is assumed, is error-free, while analog signals are always subject to some amount of degradation and information loss. There is an element of truth to this argument, but it tends to fly in the face of real-world considerations. First, there is no reason why any perceptible degradation of an analog component video signal should occur even over rather substantial distances; the maximum runs in home theater installations do not present a challenge for analog cabling built to professional standards. Second, it is a flawed assumption to suppose that digital signal handling is always error-free. DVI and HDMI signals aren't subject to error correction; once information is lost, it's lost for good. That is not a consideration with well-made cable over short distances, but can easily become a factor at distance.

So What Does Determine Image Quality?

Video doesn't just translate directly from source material to displays, for a variety of reasons. Very few displays operate at the native resolutions of common source material, so when you're viewing material in 480p, 720p, or 1080i, there is, of necessity, some scaling going on. Meanwhile, the signals representing colors have to be accurately rendered, which is dependent on black level and "delta," the relationship between signal level and actual as-rendered color level. Original signal formats don't correspond well to display hardware; for example, DVD recordings have 480 lines, but non-square pixels. What all of this means is that there is signal processing to go on along the signal chain.

The argument often made for the DVI or HDMI signal formats is the "pure digital" argument--that by taking a digital recording, such as a DVD or a digital satellite signal, and rendering it straight into digital form as a DVI or HDMI signal, and then delivering that digital signal straight to the display, there is a sort of a perfect no-loss-and-no-alteration-of-information signal chain. If the display itself is a native digital display (e.g. an LCD or Plasma display), the argument goes, the signal never has to undergo digital-to-analog conversion and therefore is less altered along the way.

That might be true, were it not for the fact that digital signals are encoded in different ways and have to be converted, and that these signals have to be scaled and processed to be displayed. Consequently, there are always conversions going on, and these conversions aren't always easy going. "Digital to digital" conversion is no more a guarantee of signal quality than "digital to analog," and in practice may be substantially worse. Whether it's better or worse will depend upon the circuitry involved--and that is something which isn't usually practical to figure out. As a general rule, with consumer equipment, one simply doesn't know how signals are processed, and one doesn't know how that processing varies by input. Analog and digital inputs must either be scaled through separate circuits, or one must be converted to the other to use the same scaler. How is that done? In general, you won't find an answer to that anywhere in your instruction manual, and even if you did, it'd be hard to judge which is the better scaler without viewing the actual video output. It's fair to say, in general, that even in very high-end consumer gear, the quality of circuits for signal processing and scaling is quite variable.

Additionally, it's not uncommon to find that the display characteristics of different inputs have been set up differently. Black level, for example, may vary considerably from the digital to the analog inputs, and depending on how sophisticated your setup options on your display are, that may not be an easy thing to recalibrate.

[cub reporter]

PART 2

The Role of Cable and Connection Quality

Cable quality, in general, should not be a significant factor in the DVI/HDMI versus Component Video comparison, as long as the cables in question are of high quality. There are, however, ways in which cable quality issues can come into play.

Analog component video is an extremely robust signal type; we have had our customers run analog component, without any need for boosters, relays or other special equipment, up to 200 feet without any signal quality issues at all. However, at long lengths, cable quality can be a consideration--in particular, impedance needs to be strictly controlled to a tight tolerance (ideally, 75 +/- 1.5 ohms) to prevent problems with signal reflection which can cause ghosting or ringing.

DVI and HDMI, unfortunately, are not so robust. The problem here is the same as the virtue of analog component: tight control over impedance. When the professional video industry went to digital signals, it settled upon a standard--SDI, serial digital video--which was designed to be run in coaxial cables, where impedance can be controlled very tightly, and consequently, uncompressed, full-blown HD signals can be run hundreds of feet with no loss of information in SDI. For reasons known only to the designers of the DVI and HDMI standards, this very sound design principle was ignored; instead of coaxial cable, the DVI and HDMI signals are run balanced, through twisted-pair cable. The best twisted pair cables control impedance to about +/- 10%. When a digital signal is run through a cable, the edges of the bits (represented by sudden transitions in voltage) round off, and the rounding increases dramatically with distance. Meanwhile, poor control over impedance results in signal reflections--portions of the signal bounce off of the display end of the line, propagate back down the cable, and return, interfering with later information in the same bitstream. At some point, the data become unrecoverable, and with no error correction available, there's no way to restore the lost information.

DVI and HDMI connections, for this reason, are subject to the "digital cliff" phenomenon. Up to some length, a DVI or HDMI cable will perform just fine; the rounding and reflections will not compromise the ability of the display device to reconstruct the original bitstream, and no information will be lost. As we make the cable longer and longer, the difficulty of reconstructing the bitstream increases. At some point, unrecoverable bit errors start to occur; these are colloquially described in the home theater community as "sparklies," because the bit errors manifest themselves as pixel dropouts which make the image sparkle. If we make the cable just a bit longer, so much information is lost that the display becomes unable to reconstitute enough information to even render an image; the bitstream has fallen off the digital cliff, so called because of the abruptness of the failure. A cable design that works perfectly at 20 feet may get "sparkly" at 25, and stop working entirely at 30.

In practice, it's very hard to say when a DVI or HDMI signal will fail. We have found well-made DVI cables to be quite reliable up to 50 feet, but HDMI cable, with its smaller profile, is a bit more of a puzzle. Because the ability to reconstitute the bitstream varies depending on the quality of the circuitry in the source and display devices, it's not uncommon for a cable to work fine at 30, 40, or 50 feet on one source/display combination, and not work at all on another.

The Upshot: It Depends

So, which is better, DVI or component? HDMI or component? The answer--unsatisfying, perhaps, but true--is that it depends. It depends upon your source and display devices, and there's no good way, in principle, to say in advance whether the digital or the analog connection will render a better picture. You may even find, say, that your DVD player looks better through its DVI or HDMI output, while your satellite or cable box looks better through its component output, on the same display. In this case, there's no real substitute for simply plugging it in and giving it a try both ways.

by Blue Jeans Cable (reprinted with permission)

[jackboot]

My condolences to the crappy analog circuitry in the Dell 2405. Sorry, but this isn't 1999 anymore and VGA has come a long way since then. Like, I said, I cannot discern a difference in image quality on my 42" LCD in DVI or VGA mode. Is DVI slightly better? Yes, but the difference is so minor and indistinguishable that I doubt you would even pick up the differences on a quality monitor. Also, the 360 looks damn sharp on VGA and component and I doubt HDMI or DVI would make it look any sharper than it already looks. Like I said, it all depends on the inards of the monitor.

Geez don't take it personally buddy...did you invent VGA or something?

BTW, the Dell 2405 is a bit newer than 1999 lol...not to mention it is regarded as one of the best desktop displays available.

Just because *your* 42" LCD doesn't show a difference in DVI vs VGA doesn't mean that is true for all other displays and using any possible source material :rolleyes:

Fact is that the "inards" of the monitor (you are talking about the scaler) don't make a lick of difference if there is no scaling going on. In other words, if you send a native resolution signal there is no scaling going on inside the display. In such a case I'd much rather have a digital signal than an analogue signal.

I'm happy that you are satisfied with VGA. Don't get pissy and defensive of your VGA signal just because some of us want to figure out how to get a digital signal though.

[cub reporter]

Geez don't take it personally buddy...did you invent VGA or something?

BTW, the Dell 2405 is a bit newer than 1999 lol...not to mention it is regarded as one of the best desktop displays available.

Just because *your* 42" LCD doesn't show a difference in DVI vs VGA doesn't mean that is true for all other displays and using any possible source material :rolleyes:

Fact is that the "inards" of the monitor (you are talking about the scaler) don't make a lick of difference if there is no scaling going on. In other words, if you send a native resolution signal there is no scaling going on inside the display. In such a case I'd much rather have a digital signal than an analogue signal.

I'm happy that you are satisfied with VGA. Don't get pissy and defensive of your VGA signal just because some of us want to figure out how to get a digital signal though.


Why would I take it personally? Looks like you're the one taking the offensive and making it personal. The 1999 reference was to indicate the DAC circuitry in LCD's has come a long way since then and from the experience and articles I've read it's on par with DVI. I was trying to infer 'progression' - I'm not sure what you were thinking.

And yes, just because my 42" LCD doesn't show an obvious difference between VGA and DVI doesn't mean the same is true for all LCD TV's. This is probably why I emphasize the importance of the 'inards' of the LCD TV. And by 'inards' I mean the function of the PLL and ADC implementation (not to get to technical on you, though). Oh, and I wasn't getting 'pissy and defensive'; that's just another thing you misinterpreted. Oh, this response is coming from a happy and joyous state. Please don't interpret it otherwise.

[xeodragon]

this argument is very impressive lol

im new to this thread and i hope this deal really goes through! Im switching from a sony tube from like many many years ago.

[ccdude]

Well the 3760 is on their site $1699 Maybe a $700 coupon???? Not likely

http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290601&whse=BCCA&topnav=&browse=

[story]

Well the 3760 is on their site $1699 Maybe a $700 coupon???? Not likely

http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290601&whse=BCCA&topnav=&browse=

I don't believe a $700 coupon is likely too, so nope, it's gonna retail regular price for $999.
This is base on real life facts and evidences from Costco, other respectable members etc.

Instead of being skeptics, let's hear some facts and evidences to prove them wrong. For example, go to Costco and ask around, compare future trends and predict future price for us. That's a good start.

I do hope you will win, I like to see, coz if you do, you will be the MAN.

[T3rry]

every think of the fact of the matter that parts are cheaper now, and they have excessive amounts of parts because demand has decreased and suppliers have increased, maing the parts cheaper, and the panels cheaper.... look at other LCDs ont he market you can find a 37 on sale for ~1200 right now, so $1000 isn't unreasonable, heck somebodie's gotta be first to drop the prices down. The treand of all flat panel tvs is dropping prices.

[SuSHi]

Well the 3760 is on their site $1699 Maybe a $700 coupon???? Not likely

http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290601&whse=BCCA&topnav=&browse=

it's in the title of the bloody thread, 3752, this model has nothing to do with a 3760 at all

this is getting unbelievably redundant, it seems every page some new person to the thread just puts their 2 cents in going on their general "knowledge" of electronics and market research

again, i wish there was a way to prevent these pessimests from buying one when they're released at costco, buncha freaking monkeys we've got running around here

[killbillvol1]

I don't think this deal is going to come to existence until that becomes a mainstream price. Maybe this should be moved to a different thread for this isn't exactly a hot deal - just a bunch of speculation based on what some people saw in a point of sale terminal at costco.

[story]

I don't think this deal is going to come to existence until that becomes a mainstream price. Maybe this should be moved to a different thread for this isn't exactly a hot deal - just a bunch of speculation based on what some people saw in a point of sale terminal at costco.


Did you read all 38 pages before making that statmnt?

[killbillvol1]

Did you read all 38 pages before making that statmnt?

So does this TV exist?

[cubalis]

So does this TV exist?

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcdtv/n3752w/

Note at the end of the description it says Available at costco canada only....

[SuSHi]

wow seriously i think the new people jumping into this thread are progressively getting dumber and dumber

[story]

So does this TV exist?

Hmmm... answering a question with a question...good job

anyway, cubalis already proved you didn't read the 38 pages before makin that statmnt, b/c it's been posted before

[Evil Techie]

ill just lock this thread for now to prevent worthless posts
and i will unlock it on the 14th when its near the stocking week

ill leave a post-it note on my monitor but i would also appreciate if someone could remind me on the 14th to unlock this thread :cheesygri

[T3rry]

checked with my local costco in calgary again, they still say they don't know when to expect them because thier system shows that they're not even on order.

[Sweet Deal]

For those who live in Ottawa, and don't want to wait any longer for N3752W at Costco. I noticed that there is a 37" LCD TV with a LG DVD Player for sales at www.pccyber.com for $1,299 (after $200 rebate). I called the store, and they confirmed that it is actually N3760W model. The deal includes free delivery in Ottawa, and it is in stock. Costco is selling N3760W for $1,699.99 at Costco.ca. I checked the difference between two and N3760W has DNX Image Processing Technology but N3752W has more than 1 HDMI head. Sounds like a pretty good deal while who knows how much longer will N3752W arrive and who can guarantee the price will be less than $1K.

[pandaeyes]

http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10291467&whse=BCCA&topnav=&browse=&s=1

btw, the 32 inch (n3252w) dropped in price to 799.99

[masterhapposai]

For those who live in Ottawa, and don't want to wait any longer for N3752W at Costco. I noticed that there is a 37" LCD TV with a LG DVD Player for sales at www.pccyber.com for $1,299 (after $200 rebate). I called the store, and they confirmed that it is actually N3760W model. The deal includes free delivery in Ottawa, and it is in stock. Costco is selling N3760W for $1,699.99 at Costco.ca. I checked the difference between two and N3760W has DNX Image Processing Technology but N3752W has more than 1 HDMI head. Sounds like a pretty good deal while who knows how much longer will N3752W arrive and who can guarantee the price will be less than $1K.

anyone think the DNX Image Processing is more than just hype?


I'm looking for a LCD that can finally show decent blacks/greys. It's hard to trust people's opinions because everyone here slobbered over the 27" when it was 999 about 2 years ago, and it was the worst PoS I've seen in my life. Dark movies became opaque movies with no detail whatsoever.

[Shaf]

ill just lock this thread for now to prevent worthless posts
and i will unlock it on the 14th when its near the stocking week

ill leave a post-it note on my monitor but i would also appreciate if someone could remind me on the 14th to unlock this thread :cheesygri

So why was this thread unlocked? Is the TV available now or not?

Does anyone have the sku number so that i can call my local Costco to find out if they have it??

[Anessa]

AQUOs does really good blacks and so do the VIERAs but they're slightly more expensive than the VS.

[masterhapposai]

AQUOs does really good blacks and so do the VIERAs but they're slightly more expensive than the VS.

quite a bit.., as in double price :lol:

hopefully viewsonic technicians are no longer officially mentally disabled charity staff and this one shows a decent picture

I don't see why a LCD should be able to get away with not showing black/shadows. There should be standards or minimum specs

[Phils]

anyone think the DNX Image Processing is more than just hype?



I don't have an answer to that question however I can tell you that the list price of the 3760 is over $1,700. The list on the 3751 which, I imagine, is technically identical to the 3752 is just over $1,400.

[demanche]

Been watching the prices of LCD's drop like crazy this past week, I would be willing to bet this deal will go down by mid november at the latest at this rate.

On a side note, is this decent to use as a computer display from a distance, and tv wise, does it use a tv tuner or the tuner in the display for mce? I've recently purchased tv tuner card but think I should return it and wait for this to drop.

Any advice appreciated while we sit on this one ;)

[SuSHi]

So why was this thread unlocked? Is the TV available now or not?

Does anyone have the sku number so that i can call my local Costco to find out if they have it??

the sku has been posted numerous times in the thread, maybe search it

[Fresco]

I just came back from my local costco (Kingston, Ont). And they have the 3752 in their system and the price is going to be $999.99 (as previously mentioned several times). They don't have the TV on order, nor does any costco in the GTA according to the woman I talked to. However, costco in Ottawa (Gloucester sp?) has them on order and has an 'expected' date of arrival of the 16th.

[demanche]

The costco in Ottawa, are they taking any sort of pre-orders?

I'd drop the cash after work today, concidering my FS dual monitor thing didn't work out ;)

With the RFD anticipation I'd imagine these will sell out quickly.

Thanks for the update.

[michelb]

The costco in Ottawa, are they taking any sort of pre-orders?

I'd drop the cash after work today, concidering my FS dual monitor thing didn't work out ;)

With the RFD anticipation I'd imagine these will sell out quickly.

Thanks for the update.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Costco takes pre-orders (or does lay-aways or any of that stuff). Also, I wouldn't be worried about it - do you really think they'll sell out that fast? How many people are actually going to buy this?

[skanji]

How will this tv do showing hockey games?

[Rosico]

It shows Ottawa losing quite well. ;)

Seriously, it will depend on the feed (SD is less than stellar as it is made for HD). I had the 32 inch and it was fine for me since I don't watch a lot of tv. It shows video games and movies quite well!

Can Ottawa get Over The Air HD feeds for free?

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Costco takes pre-orders (or does lay-aways or any of that stuff). Also, I wouldn't be worried about it - do you really think they'll sell out that fast? How many people are actually going to buy this?

to my knowledge, costco does not do pre-orders but does raincheques. From previous posts, looks like Costco has ordered a large lot of these tvs to satisfy demand. But, I do expect many people will jump at this (37 inch lcd at less than $1000 with Costco's return policy).

[Supershyguy]

This is looking good

[ilovecables]

Wow, start saving the pennies, or ask for a credit card increase ;)

[michelb]

How will this tv do showing hockey games?

If you primarily watch sports, a plasma may be better for you since they're 'suppose' to have less motion artifacts.

Here's a review that compares a 42" Vizio LCD with a 42" Vizio Plasma.
http://www.ultimateavmag.com/flatpaneldisplays/1006viziofaceoff/

Personally I think that both have gotten good enough that the difference is pretty insignificant.

[Coppertone2005]

How will this tv do showing hockey games?


I have a 32" and hockey shines on HD channels only. I would assume 37" would be the same.

[Coppertone2005]

http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10291467&whse=BCCA&topnav=&browse=&s=1

btw, the 32 inch (n3252w) dropped in price to 799.99


WOW! I bought it when it was $889 3 weeks ago. Does anyone know if I can go back with the bill and get a price adjustment?

[parry]

Go for the price adjustment. They will honor it.

[Rosico]

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Costco takes pre-orders (or does lay-aways or any of that stuff). Also, I wouldn't be worried about it - do you really think they'll sell out that fast? How many people are actually going to buy this?

Yes, others have done this. I think you have a 30 day window.

[Fresco]

WOW! I bought it when it was $889 3 weeks ago. Does anyone know if I can go back with the bill and get a price adjustment?



Forget the adjustment, return it, spend $100 more and get the 37".....that's the RFD way!!!!! the more you spend the more you save!

[demanche]

I have a 32" and hockey shines on HD channels only. I would assume 37" would be the same.

Does this mean that this TV would be unsuitable for hockey? I plan on watching alot of hockey, but I am not aiming for crystal clear images, but better then our 23" tv from the 90's.

[michelb]

Forget the adjustment, return it, spend $100 more and get the 37".....that's the RFD way!!!!! the more you spend the more you save!

Please don't encourage people do to this. This is exactly the kind of behavior that will ruin it for the rest of us. Costco's return policy is great but it's not intended to be an upgrade program. It's intent is to give buyers great protection if something goes wrong.

Even the price adjustments go against the intent of this policy but they allow it. Costco doesn't have a price protection program instead they try to sell at the lowest price they can (they claim 10% markup across the board on all products). FutureShop has a price protection because they have a much higher markup (probably 30-50%) and make money on extended warranties as well.

[riskit]

For anyone planing on buying this should concerned the following, I was speaking with a CS rep yesterday about extended warranty on Costco Electronics.

He advised me to purchase the Item with a Costco American Express Credit card and then to call Costco American Express number and and ask about a warranty extensions on the purchase Item, He said they will ask for the make, model and serial number of the purchase item and Costco American Express will extended the warranty for up to one years at no charge.

The warranty extensions is giving only if you call he said.
:cheesygri

[lan-evolution]

Does this mean that this TV would be unsuitable for hockey? I plan on watching alot of hockey, but I am not aiming for crystal clear images, but better then our 23" tv from the 90's.

I have the 32" version, and making an educated guess, 37" isn't going to look any better. Your TV will probably do better with the analog signal than this in terms of quality. But you say image is not important for you? So what defines "good for hockey"? Just need a better idea

[michelb]

Does this mean that this TV would be unsuitable for hockey? I plan on watching alot of hockey, but I am not aiming for crystal clear images, but better then our 23" tv from the 90's.

This TV will give you a larger image than your current TV but it probably will not give you a better image for SD content (actually, if your 23" CRT is properly calibrated, the CRT will arguably produce a better image than the LCD). That being said, it will certainly be very watchable. The problem with SD content occurs when you try to enlarge it too much (e.g. On 42" or 50"+ SD can look quite bad since the lower resolution is really magnified. 4:3 content on a 37" 16:9 is about the size of watching it on a 30" 4:3 so will be fine although the image is likely going to be sharper so you might notice more artifacts (particularly with SD digital content)).

For ED/HD content (DVD, PS2, XBox, HD content), you will get a noticeably better image than your old television and 16:9 content will be much, much larger (so better IMO).

[demanche]

For anyone planing on buying this should concerned the following, I was speaking with a CS rep yesterday about extended warranty on Costco Electronics.

He advised me to purchase the Item with a Costco American Express Credit card and then to call Costco American Express number and and ask about a warranty extensions on the purchase Item, He said they will ask for the make, model and serial number of the purchase item and Costco American Express will extended the warranty for up to one years at no charge.

The warranty extensions is giving only if you call he said.
:cheesygri


Doesn't mastercard offer a similar warranty extension?

I have the 32" version, and making an educated guess, 37" isn't going to look any better. Your TV will probably do better with the analog signal than this in terms of quality. But you say image is not important for you? So what defines "good for hockey"? Just need a better idea

I think I would have to bring in a dvd with some hockey on it and try it out for myself cause im not even sure what im looking for ;)

[Keops]

Doesn't mastercard offer a similar warranty extension?

But you can't use a Visa or Mastercard at Costco.

Keops

[flaming homer]

Doesn't mastercard offer a similar warranty extension?
A lot of cards offer similiar warranty. However, Costco doesn't take them (at least in-store)...

[michelb]

Extended warranty is a non-issue at Costco since they offer a 'satisfaction guaranteed policy' - if it dies in 3 years and you're not happy, simply return it and they will refund your money.

[story]

I know that you are able to buy Costco GC online at no extra cost w/ any pymt method. Does anyone know if you are able to use it at store.

[Fresco]

WOW! I bought it when it was $889 3 weeks ago. Does anyone know if I can go back with the bill and get a price adjustment?

Forget the adjustment, return it, spend $100 more and get the 37".....that's the RFD way!!!!! the more you spend the more you save!

Please don't encourage people do to this. This is exactly the kind of behavior that will ruin it for the rest of us. Costco's return policy is great but it's not intended to be an upgrade program. It's intent is to give buyers great protection if something goes wrong.

Even the price adjustments go against the intent of this policy but they allow it. Costco doesn't have a price protection program instead they try to sell at the lowest price they can (they claim 10% markup across the board on all products). FutureShop has a price protection because they have a much higher markup (probably 30-50%) and make money on extended warranties as well.



I was actually 'kind of' joking about returning the 32" and buying the 37". But the fact of the matter is that since the TV is 3 weeks old Copperstone is completely within his right to return that TV and purchase the 37" for 'only' $100 more. IF I were in the same position, I know for a fact that I would do that, that's part of the reason why I have a costco membership. If the TV were 3 months old or 3 years old then I wouldn't condone it, but that's just not true in this case.

[jackboot]

Please don't encourage people do to this. This is exactly the kind of behavior that will ruin it for the rest of us. Costco's return policy is great but it's not intended to be an upgrade program. It's intent is to give buyers great protection if something goes wrong.

Even the price adjustments go against the intent of this policy but they allow it. Costco doesn't have a price protection program instead they try to sell at the lowest price they can (they claim 10% markup across the board on all products). FutureShop has a price protection because they have a much higher markup (probably 30-50%) and make money on extended warranties as well.

+1 x 10000000000000 (although for someone that purchased less than a month ago I think this is legit)

[Beradon]

Even the price adjustments go against the intent of this policy but they allow it. Costco doesn't have a price protection program instead they try to sell at the lowest price they can (they claim 10% markup across the board on all products). FutureShop has a price protection because they have a much higher markup (probably 30-50%) and make money on extended warranties as well.Since they're not willing to accept Visa or MC then we have every right to make use of their policies. Besides, it's not like the general public can come in and purcahse something. There is a reason why Costco charges membership fees.

[masterhapposai]

This TV will give you a larger image than your current TV but it probably will not give you a better image for SD content (actually, if your 23" CRT is properly calibrated, the CRT will arguably produce a better image than the LCD). That being said, it will certainly be very watchable. The problem with SD content occurs when you try to enlarge it too much (e.g. On 42" or 50"+ SD can look quite bad since the lower resolution is really magnified. 4:3 content on a 37" 16:9 is about the size of watching it on a 30" 4:3 so will be fine although the image is likely going to be sharper so you might notice more artifacts (particularly with SD digital content)).

For ED/HD content (DVD, PS2, XBox, HD content), you will get a noticeably better image than your old television and 16:9 content will be much, much larger (so better IMO).


if the game is non-hd or non-480p minimum he won't even be able to see some of the content

this is what happened on the 27" viewsonic lcd. of course, the tech was poor back then.

[sullione]

I was actually 'kind of' joking about returning the 32" and buying the 37". But the fact of the matter is that since the TV is 3 weeks old Copperstone is completely within his right to return that TV and purchase the 37" for 'only' $100 more. IF I were in the same position, I know for a fact that I would do that, that's part of the reason why I have a costco membership. If the TV were 3 months old or 3 years old then I wouldn't condone it, but that's just not true in this case.
You wouldnt condone it, but would you do it ??? I know my answer

[puff_daddy_58_99]

I'm pretty certain I will be getting one of these 37" ones as a graduation gift for myself, hopefully they come out by the end of october and aren't delayed like the 3252's.

[iSmack]

I Dont think anyone has posted the specs yet so...

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/tventertainment/lcdtv/n3752w/

[The_dream2k]

I Dont think anyone has posted the specs yet so...

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/tventertainment/lcdtv/n3752w/

its been mentioned a couple of times before so has the link..

[alvinator]

Not sure if this has been menetioned yet, but the 3751w is for sale for $1149 at the ViewSonic website...

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/tventertainment/lcdtv/n3751w/

with the specs very similar (almost identical?) to the 3752w that costco will be selling, it's very possible that costco will sell them for $999 (to all those who are still in doubt.)

[gflux]

Not sure if this has been menetioned yet, but the 3751w is for sale for $1149 at the ViewSonic website...

That's the US price. You have to factor in, conversion and shipping. I'm just going to wait patiently until it comes out (and nab me a hot dog and one of those awesome apple pies).

[al2k]

Just came from the Langford BC Costco and had them lookup this model in their system. Apparently 5100 units are on order and set to arrive on Oct. 26 at their western distro warehouse in Langly. I was told to expect them at stores about a week later. Price was also confirmed at $999.99. Can't wait to pick a couple up! :)

[demanche]

So we have them attacking our wallets from the East on the week of the 16th supposidly and then first week of November we get ambusghed in the west.

Hell of a war front costco got planned out ;)

[Shredder59]

i forgot that costco doesn't accept most CCs. what payment methods do they offer?

[aleksandar_2000]

i forgot that costco doesn't accept most CCs. what payment methods do they offer?

Cash is king and I prefer to use Costco Amex (got it in Costco) which will double warranty
There is no fee on this card and it's also cash back (depends how much you spend in given period).

Explanation below is correct regarding warranty but since warranty on all TVs is 1 year - it will extend it to 2y.
With Costco's return policy this is good enough for me (in FS/BB they always push you to buy extended warranty which is 300-500$ at least and this you get for free this way in Costco and no hasle to return damaged product - ppl shouldn't abuse this policy since it may change...)
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BTW: The AMEX cards do NOT always double your warranty. They will double your warranty for UPTO one year. So, if you purchase something with a one-year warranty you will get two... However if you purchase something with a five-year warranty, you will only get six-years....
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[Dr Butcher]

i forgot that costco doesn't accept most CCs. what payment methods do they offer?

I believe Amex, debit and cash. Do they offer a Costco credit card? Otherwise I think that's it.

[Shredder59]

ouch. who uses AMEX?

anyone have a good recommendation for a no-fee AMEX card? or i guess i could pay with debit...but who does that?

and then there's the warranty factor...

whats AA?

[scott_newsgroup]

ouch. who uses AMEX?

anyone have a good recommendation for a no-fee AMEX card? or i guess i could pay with debit...but who does that?

and then there's the warranty factor...

whats AA?


I think he means AE (American Express). If you want a no-fee AMEX card, and you have a Costco membership... Just get the Costco no-fee cash-back AMEX card (it's wicked). I get a nice cheque every January from AMEX just for using my card.

BTW: The AMEX cards do NOT always double your warranty. They will double your warranty for UPTO one year. So, if you purchase something with a one-year warranty you will get two... However if you purchase something with a five-year warranty, you will only get six-years....

[NightRain]

ouch. who uses AMEX?

anyone have a good recommendation for a no-fee AMEX card? or i guess i could pay with debit...but who does that?

and then there's the warranty factor...

whats AA?

I use AMEX airmiles card. No fees and 1 airmile per $20 spent. I think for $50 annual fee you get 1 airmile per $15. It is a great card.

http://www.americanexpress.com/canada/en/blueam_affiliate.cgi?parent=A000002DNQ&PID=124&BUID=CCG&PSKU=CG&AFFID=amexsell&CRTV=xsell_e

[rodenti]

I use AMEX airmiles card. No fees and 1 airmile per $20 spent. I think for $50 annual fee you get 1 airmile per $15. It is a great card.

http://www.americanexpress.com/canada/en/blueam_affiliate.cgi?parent=A000002DNQ&PID=124&BUID=CCG&PSKU=CG&AFFID=amexsell&CRTV=xsell_e

But I don't believe that it offers the double warranty that the Costco Amex offers. I switched from the Air Miles card to the Costco cash back card mainly for the double warranty.

[Agent]

Do you guys have more info on the Costco Amex card? The card sure sounds appealing. :)


But I don't believe that it offers the double warranty that the Costco Amex offers. I switched from the Air Miles card to the Costco cash back card mainly for the double warranty.

[WalnutCrunch]

Do you guys have more info on the Costco Amex card? The card sure sounds appealing. :)

http://www10.americanexpress.com/sif/cda/page/0,1641,13412,00.asp

[aidzhsiah]

i forgot that costco doesn't accept most CCs. what payment methods do they offer?

I think someone on the Off-Topic forum wrote a thread about how you can use your credit card to buy a gift card on Costco.ca and then you can use those in-store later.

[HeatSeeker]

Proof of purchase, a copy of the manufacturer's warranty and a description of the product are required to register your purchase.

Does that mean you have to register your purchase with AMEX to be covered?

[Beradon]

So we have them attacking our wallets from the East on the week of the 16th supposidly and then first week of November we get ambusghed in the west.

Hell of a war front costco got planned out ;)A really nice war would be having all the other retailers fighting Costco with similar sized screens at the same price level. So far I haven't seen any of that since Costco's first volley with the $799 price tag for the 27". >:(

[newfbc]

i forgot that costco doesn't accept most CCs. what payment methods do they offer?


You can buy Costco Cash Cards on http://costco.ca to use in store.

Ron.

[Cero21]

Geez can this tv just arrive already! It's killing me!!!

[parry]

I wish this TV also came in silver :(

[T3rry]

Thanks for the tips on the cash cards... Just bought 2 $500 gift cards on costco.ca with my visa, which is aeroplan of 1 point per $2 :D 500 points is killer.

[parry]

Anyone know what is the refresh rate for this TV?

[demanche]

60Hz I believe

[sporb]

it's oct. 14th. the tv is suppost to be here. so how is it?

[Rosico]

I believe people have outlined the arrival dates (the 16th to distribution and later on in the next two weeks for the stores).

[mikewark]

Wow cant believe the negativity over a deal that is waiting to happen.

Naysayers..bite your tongue cause once i buy this unit in two weeks ill send you screenshots of it.

[sporb]

I believe people have outlined the arrival dates (the 16th to distribution and later on in the next two weeks for the stores).

and if the wild goose chase continues, then what? thread get locked or moved? i'm surprised any of these haven't happened yet.

[JohnB]

and if the wild goose chase continues, then what? thread get locked or moved? i'm surprised any of these haven't happened yet.

I think it was already locked by someone (for 2 entire days!) then unlocked...

ill just lock this thread for now to prevent worthless posts
and i will unlock it on the 14th when its near the stocking week

ill leave a post-it note on my monitor but i would also appreciate if someone could remind me on the 14th to unlock this thread :cheesygri

[sporb]

Wow cant believe the negativity over a deal that is waiting to happen.

Naysayers..bite your tongue cause once i buy this unit in two weeks ill send you screenshots of it.

i'm not negative towards the deal. what i'm saying is that it's stupid to post a date when the deal is not here. there is no point in saying 'coming september 1st 37" $999', then 'mid september', 'oct', 'mid-oct'... and now 'november'. assuming that the deal comes in november, it's been two months. so does that mean i can post a thread saying '42" $999 coming late december'.

the point is, i thought this forum was for hot deals, not a discussion on speculating on a hot deal that would happen. i thought 'off-topic' was the place for that.

nobody has got this deal, and it's not advertised anywhere so i don't think it classifies as a hot deal, but if it does...

42" LCD TV for $999 in late November

[sporb]

I think it was already locked by someone (for 2 entire days!) then unlocked...

i didn't notice the lock, seemed like this thread was always around. maybe i'm the only one.

[newfbc]

I think this deal is possible. Futureshop has a Sharp 37" LCD for $1499 this week. Sharp is considered high end. So a lower brand for $999 isn't totally off the wall.

Ron.

[kaddy69]

You can buy Costco Cash Cards on http://costco.ca to use in store.

Ron.


Are these cash cards good in store or only online.

[newfbc]

Are these cash cards good in store or only online.

In store. You can buy electronic certificates for online use.

Ron.

[jackboot]

WOW I didn't know you could buy gift cards at costco online!

This means an additional 3% or 5% cash back for those with the CDN Tire cashback mastercard...that's brings this TV's price down to $950:) Great deal...

[kaddy69]

WOW I didn't know you could buy gift cards at costco online!

This means an additional 3% or 5% cash back for those with the CDN Tire cashback mastercard...that's brings this TV's price down to $950:) Great deal...

I so made I missed out on the CDN mastercard card. I sure hope it's offered again soon :(

[fmpsportsguy2]

YES iM sHOUTING..

THIS THREAD IS WHAT YOU CALL INTERNET HYPE...costco and viewsonic should be paying for the advertisment... wanna bet when this puppy comes its sold out!!!!!!! I'm happy with my 22 inch ws viewsonic monitor and yep gonna buy one these when they appear.. i like the thread being open people can debate freely.. if you dont want to buy a tv look somewhere else

[The_dream2k]

I called my local costco and they said they are getting it on the 19th.. does that mean I can purchase it on the 19th or do they need a couple of days before we can buy it?

[lapopal]

Well call them back and ask them since you were on the phone with them sheesh :rolleyes:

[JohnB]

I think this will happen, why not ?

In China you can get a 37" for 850USD so 1000CAD now isnt that amazing...

Im sure by the summer this little 37" guy will be $799 and the 42" will be $999, it never ends...

[Russian]

Get it now! Viewsonic N3752w 37IN BLACK $1300 tax in !
Here is the link
http://www.emvee.ca/product_info.php?products_id=1299&osCsid=55266bfc85340fdcd495fb519705d21f

[mrG]

Get it now! Viewsonic N3752w 37IN BLACK $1300 tax in !
Here is the link
http://www.emvee.ca/product_info.php?products_id=1299&osCsid=55266bfc85340fdcd495fb519705d21f

OR wait a couple more days and save an additional $150+

[Russian]

Or wait 5 years or so and get it for FREE !!!!!
:)

[dough4you]

Or wait 8 years, and THEY PAY YOU, to take it away.


sorry.... I couldn't resist :cheesygri

[mrG]

Or wait 5 years or so and get it for FREE !!!!!
:)

lol. well we've already waited so long...
that $999 is like a magic number ;-)

[coeternity]

I wish this TV also came in silver :(

i wish it comes in white :lol:

[lovefreefood]

lol. well we've already waited so long...
that $999 is like a magic number ;-)

Agreed. The sub-$1000 is the price I'm looking at for this TV. I think I've waited long enough. Hope it happens soon.

[teknoluv]

http://www.emvee.ca/product_info.php?products_id=1299&osCsid=55266bfc85340fdcd495fb519705d21f
I thought N3752w was "available at Costco Canada ONLY", no?

[Jon Lai]

I think this deal is possible. Futureshop has a Sharp 37" LCD for $1499 this week. Sharp is considered high end. So a lower brand for $999 isn't totally off the wall.

Ron.

Well, consider yourself that you've been given a choice of a higher or lower end LCD. You might think it's not entirely such a "hot" deal, but at least you're given the choice if you want to pay proportionately for a lower end LCD.

i forgot that costco doesn't accept most CCs. what payment methods do they offer?

I didn't even know costco doesn't accept Visa and Mastercard... everytime I go I swipe my AE :P

[flamenko]

94000 views and hundreds of replies and this deal hasnt happened yet.

My belief each year of the leafs winning the Stanley Cup has now been outdone. This is absolutely phenomenal that noone has given up yet.

I can see it now... There is someone with secret binos down the street ready to report the 18 wheeler pulling up, someone on the street corner waiting for that first advert...we have the inside Costco employee ready to tell his friends to line up before the store opens...

Picture this, opening day there will be a line up at 3am to get the first set there...people camped out...a hoagie truck in the lot...

Two women in line fighting!!!! Watch out Elmo, this tv is going to be the toy of the season....and for us adults for a change.

Incredible!!!

[kaddy69]

94000 views and hundreds of replies and this deal hasnt happened yet.

My belief each year of the leafs winning the Stanley Cup has now been outdone. This is absolutely phenomenal that noone has given up yet.

I can see it now... There is someone with secret binos down the street ready to report the 18 wheeler pulling up, someone on the street corner waiting for that first advert...we have the inside Costco employee ready to tell his friends to line up before the store opens...

Picture this, opening day there will be a line up at 3am to get the first set there...people camped out...a hoagie truck in the lot...

Two women in line fighting!!!! Watch out lemo, this tv is going to be the toy of the season....and for us adults for a change.

Incredible!!!

ha ha,
You just made my day. That was so funny. :D

[Jon Lai]

94000 views and hundreds of replies and this deal hasnt happened yet.

My belief each year of the leafs winning the Stanley Cup has now been outdone. This is absolutely phenomenal that noone has given up yet.

I can see it now... There is someone with secret binos down the street ready to report the 18 wheeler pulling up, someone on the street corner waiting for that first advert...we have the inside Costco employee ready to tell his friends to line up before the store opens...

Picture this, opening day there will be a line up at 3am to get the first set there...people camped out...a hoagie truck in the lot...

Two women in line fighting!!!! Watch out lemo, this tv is going to be the toy of the season....and for us adults for a change.

Incredible!!!


Come on, the demand of this TV isn't that high.

[ccdude]

94000 views and hundreds of replies and this deal hasnt happened yet.

Incredible!!!

but its all from the same 12 people

[Cero21]

I called my local costco and they said they are getting it on the 19th.. does that mean I can purchase it on the 19th or do they need a couple of days before we can buy it?

The 19th where?

[cannon_fodder]

A really nice war would be having all the other retailers fighting Costco with similar sized screens at the same price level. So far I haven't seen any of that since Costco's first volley with the $799 price tag for the 27". >:(

I presume you meant to say 32", since that is what they offer right now is a Viewsonic 32" for $799. Unless you meant loooong ago when they broke the price barrier introducing the 27" for $999 which was hundreds less than any where else.

[Rometiklan]

Come on, the demand of this TV isn't that high.

Lighten up...flamenko was being sarcastic.

[GYR8]

Get it now! Viewsonic N3752w 37IN BLACK $1300 tax in !
Here is the link
http://www.emvee.ca/product_info.php?products_id=1299&osCsid=55266bfc85340fdcd495fb519705d21f

This is cute. Considering that Costco Canada is in fact the exclusive dealer of this model it, looks like Emvee.ca is gearing up to offer this tv by purchasing them from Costco and then reselling them. Let's hope for Emvee's sake that *No One* finds out about the Costco deal :lol:

GYR8

[JohnB]

here is a little info


Viewsonic contacts

Very interesting...

[mrG]

Very interesting...

I don't see any connection.. other than the coincidence that the Jon Lai that posted only a few above ^^^ owns that site.

[duckdown]

Let's go already! I want this TV!@$%&# :razz:

[Pro]

Let's go already! I want this TV!@$%&# :razz:

ducktown, you are actually planning to get one? Mmmm bruckin up some necks a la splinter cell will be sweet on and hd lcd.

[jackboot]

Since this thread is based purely on speculation and we will never see such a TV for $999 (:rolleyes:), here is a link for a 37" LCD, 8ms, from Fry's in the USA:

http://shop3.outpost.com/product/4686218

Conversion is about $775 CDN shipped to a US address. Fry's is one of the West coast's largest electronics retail chains. Emprex is their house brand. I do believe 37" LCD has found its new price point.

PS: It is amazing to think that during my first year of University (2002) I worked at Future Shop and a 27" Pansonic CRT TV cost $1199...and the first LCD (or maybe plasma?) we had come in was around 37" and was just under $30,000...yay for technology:)

[duckdown]

ducktown, you are actually planning to get one? Mmmm bruckin up some necks a la splinter cell will be sweet on and hd lcd.

Ahahaha what up Problaq

Ya man, you know it.. Gotta get the Splinter Cell goin on in some high-definition.. Without an HDTV I'm not finding the graphics on the 360 so incredible.. I'm hoping the HDTV will really show me some pretty graphics

Cheers bro! We'll get that game goin ASAP

[yuri35434]

Todays the 16th, anyone goto costco at lunch to check if they have this yet? GTA. I wanna pick this one up after school.

[Cas77]

Has anyone taken one for the team yet and gone to Costco to check up on these??

I'd go at lunch but I dropped my car off at the dealership this morning for servicing... :-(

[The_dream2k]

I called a couple of costco's in Montreal and nothing.. they havent received it yet

[Rosico]

from what I recall, they were due to be at the distribution centres today and then rolled out to the stores. So, I'm afraid we have a bit more of a wait. Perhaps one of our friendly Costco employee posters can enlighten us ...

[Fresco]

To all those thinking they'll be able to get one of these tvs today, please make sure to read posts carefully so you're not setting yourselves up for dissapointment.

As I posted earlier (on page 39 of this thread) and I'll quote it here.

I just came back from my local costco (Kingston, Ont). And they have the 3752 in their system and the price is going to be $999.99 (as previously mentioned several times). They don't have the TV on order, nor does any costco in the GTA according to the woman I talked to. However, costco in Ottawa (Gloucester sp?) has them on order and has an 'expected' date of arrival of the 16th.

I hope it was obvious that I was saying that NO COSTCO's in the GTA have this tv on order (which means that there's practically no way they'll have it in stock today). The only Costco that the salesperson could see on the computer that had this TV on order was in Ottawa. And noting the quotes I put on 'expected' it means that today would have been the earliest possible day if everything went according to plan and didn't get stuck somewhere during shipping.

ok, with all that said, would anyone in the Ottawa area be kind enough to go and buy this sucker, scan the receipt and post it on RFD so we can put all the speculation in this 46 page thread behind us?:-0

[The_dream2k]

The lady I talked to said it will probably be pushed until end of this week/beggining of next week

[strangelove9]

I talked to the people at the Gloucester location and they said they will have the TVs "on the floor" (i.e. AVAILABLE FOR SALE) on the 19th,and they ordered a stock of 42 (echoes of Douglas Adams?). The price is confirmed at $999.

[bluemount]

Heartland location in Mississauga did not have any today at lunch and did not know when they would get them

[gmark2000]

FYI, It's a pretty big box (since I have the 3760). Don't plan on taking a small sedan or hatchback to the store. As a matter of fact, an SUV or mini-van would be more appropriate to transport a monitor of this size.

[T3rry]

FYI, It's a pretty big box (since I have the 3760). Don't plan on taking a small sedan or hatchback to the store. As a matter of fact, an SUV or mini-van would be more appropriate to transport a monitor of this size.
Do you have actual measurements for the box?


Just called my local costco "again" and this time i was told their distribution depot is Langly BC, which will be receiving them on the 23rd and he expects them to take about 2 weeks to get from there to the sales floors, so he is estimating early to mid november for calgary (and probably most of the west)

[FacistCop]

I talked to the people at the Gloucester location and they said they will have the TVs "on the floor" (i.e. AVAILABLE FOR SALE) on the 19th,and they ordered a stock of 42 (echoes of Douglas Adams?). The price is confirmed at $999.So the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything is "how many N3752's did the Gloucester location order?"

[duckdown]

This is great news!

And I find it VERY hard to believe that no GTA locations will be getting this T.V.; when I talked to the Manager at a Heartland store a week or two ago they told me that Costco was WELL aware of the high demand for the TV and that they are the official distributor of this model.. There will definitely be some in the GTA, it's just a matter of WHEN.. And if it's by the 19th that's friggin awesome

[eman0621]

Hi Folks,

Here are the measurements on the carton for the N3760W.

in inches
LENGTH= 44.20
HEIGHT= 33.50
WIDTH = 14.30
DIM => 4
WEIGHT/PER= 84.900 lbs

Hope that helps. I work for a distribution centre and we carry this product but no stock in right now.

Cheers and good luck to all those waiting for this deal.
E:cheesygri

[GYR8]

Hi everyone,

Although I am sure Sushi will once again make fun of me about the whole "Not coming in October" thing:lol: , I will offer my own (updated) speculation.

Since these are made in China, it makes sense that there aRE going to be a few ships docking in the Vancouver area first. Then they will probably ship some to the Langley and the Brampton Distribution centre. From there, they will be split up and sent out to all the buildings.

If you think about this logically, it just doesn't make sense that the buildings in Quebec and Ottawa would just magically receive these tvs out of the blue, while the B.C. distro is still waiting for them.

Then again, I could be wrong. In which case you can *all* make fun of me :cheesygri ESPECIALLY Sushi. Ok, and MrKen:lol:

GYR8

[Fresco]

This is great news!

And I find it VERY hard to believe that no GTA locations will be getting this T.V.; when I talked to the Manager at a Heartland store a week or two ago they told me that Costco was WELL aware of the high demand for the TV and that they are the official distributor of this model.. There will definitely be some in the GTA, it's just a matter of WHEN.. And if it's by the 19th that's friggin awesome

Hey duckdown, I merely said that no GTA locations had any "on order" as of my post last week.
To clarify in point form.

This DOES NOT MEAN that GTA locations won't carry them.
This DOES NOT MEAN that GTA locations won't order them.
This DOES NOT MEAN that GTA locations haven't ordered already.

All it means is that they hadn't ordered any by Thursday 1pm of last week. And that the chances of them having them today (the 16th) (based on the fact that they hadn't ordered them by the 12th) wasn't very likely.



Hey, my 100th post, took almost 5 years, but I'm now a Jr, member!

[Bazooka Joe]

Hi Folks,

Here are the measurements on the carton for the N3760W.

in inches
LENGTH= 44.20
HEIGHT= 33.50
WIDTH = 14.30
DIM => 4
WEIGHT/PER= 84.900 lbs

Hope that helps. I work for a distribution centre and we carry this product but no stock in right now.

Cheers and good luck to all those waiting for this deal.
E:cheesygri

Thanks for the dimensions, this will easily fit in the back of my impreza.

[Supershyguy]

Cant wait any longer :lol:

[demanche]

Curious how deep it is with tv only.... is depth only 5.2 without stand?

Any ideas? I'm sure its in the specs but I'm rather arrogant when it comes to sizes and can readily admit to it :)

I know i have room width and height, but depth i wonder...

[michelb]

Curious how deep it is with tv only.... is depth only 5.2 without stand?

Any ideas? I'm sure its in the specs but I'm rather arrogant when it comes to sizes and can readily admit to it :)

I know i have room width and height, but depth i wonder...

5.2" without stand, 11.6" with stand - just look at the specs on the website

[demanche]

Thanks, thats what I thought.

[victa]

Hey all,

I've been following this for the last few weeks and decided that it was time to make the call to Costco Barrie.

Well I did, and the girl told me that they have 60 on order and are expected on the 18th but that they probably won't arrive for up to 10 days after that. When I asked the price I was told "a thousand dollars".

This being said...they're on the way.

Get your boxes for the N3252w and get ready to trade up!!

Victa..:cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri :D :cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri

[Kohl the F]

I will be picking one of these up once they arrive at the local costco. although I will probably wait for someone else to post a review first. :cheesygri
just to be safe.

[michelb]

...

Get your boxes for the N3252w and get ready to trade up!!

Victa out..:cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri :D :cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri

I don't see them doing it but I really hope they 'red flag' your account when you return the old TV and no longer let you buy large items.

About 10-12 years ago, I purchased a 32" CRT from Costco (Price Club then) for about $1300 and still have it, I guess you think I should return that one too and upgrade it!

It's a gracious RETURN POLICY, not an exchange program. Please don't ruin it for the rest of us.

[infamous.yee]

I don't see them doing it but I really hope they 'red flag' your account when you return the old TV and no longer let you buy large items.

About 10-12 years ago, I purchased a 32" CRT from Costco (Price Club then) for about $1300 and still have it, I guess you think I should return that one to and upgrade it!

It's a gracious RETURN POLICY, not an exchange program. Please don't ruin it for the rest of us.

I agree...leave it to the noobs to ruin it

[jackboot]

I don't see them doing it but I really hope they 'red flag' your account when you return the old TV and no longer let you buy large items.

About 10-12 years ago, I purchased a 32" CRT from Costco (Price Club then) for about $1300 and still have it, I guess you think I should return that one too and upgrade it!

It's a gracious RETURN POLICY, not an exchange program. Please don't ruin it for the rest of us.

+1

(for the second time!)

[victa]

I don't see them doing it but I really hope they 'red flag' your account when you return the old TV and no longer let you buy large items.

About 10-12 years ago, I purchased a 32" CRT from Costco (Price Club then) for about $1300 and still have it, I guess you think I should return that one to and upgrade it!

It's a gracious RETURN POLICY, not an exchange program. Please don't ruin it for the rest of us.


When I bought this tv 3 weeks ago the sales rep that I spoke with actually told me that I should keep the box because if I wanted to upgrade or return it I would need it. He's the one that gave me the idea to upgrade. So get off your soapbox. I did not say that it would be a good idea to return your 12-yr old tv.

I believe that Coscto calls it a Satisfaction Guarantee. Well tell me how I can be satisfied with a 32" tv when I can buy a 37" tv 3 weeks later for the same price?!!!

Thanks for the comment, but how about next time you think before you type...

victa...

[lapopal]

Well Victa your rant was pretty, though it was completley pointless.

[victa]

well that's a first...

that's the first time i've been told my rant is pretty. I'm not trying to get started on the wrong foot here, it's just that I though it was the norm. I posted the same post on ************.ca and everyone thought that I was spot on, and they're joking about getting out the box for a fast return.

I didn't mean to offend anyone, i just had something to say and i said it.

Victa...

[demanche]

I think that anything regarding the costco return policy has been discussed in the last 30 pages guys..

We know the TV deal is real, lets keep the discussion on key. I for one would like to see more updates on locations.

[victa]

+1 x 10000000000000 (although for someone that purchased less than a month ago I think this is legit)

Remember when you posted this jackboot??

[victa]

I think that anything regarding the costco return policy has been discussed in the last 30 pages guys..

We know the TV deal is real, lets keep the discussion on key. I for one would like to see more updates on locations.

done...i agree...

[NeilMcduck]

When I bought this tv 3 weeks ago the sales rep that I spoke with actually told me that I should keep the box because if I wanted to upgrade or return it I would need it. He's the one that gave me the idea to upgrade. So get off your soapbox. I did not say that it would be a good idea to return your 12-yr old tv.

I believe that Coscto calls it a Satisfaction Guarantee. Well tell me how I can be satisfied with a 32" tv when I can buy a 37" tv 3 weeks later for the same price?!!!

Thanks for the comment, but how about next time you think before you type...

victa out...

I actually agree with what you're saying, but the 'victa out' you added at the end of your post just makes me want to fight you :razz:

Seriously though, I think it's perfectly acceptable to return a big ticket item up to 60 days after I've purchased it. 3-4 months is pushing it and 6 months - 1 year is just plain ballsy...

But at the same time, it's Costco's policy, not ours. If it was really affecting their business, it wouldn't be an option.

[victa]

[QUOTE=NeilMcduck;4027772]I actually agree with what you're saying, but the 'victa out' you added at the end of your post just makes me want to fight you :razz: QUOTE]



I'm going to agree with you and thus I have removed the "out" from all my posts...haha

[crikey]

Anyone close to the Costco@Heartland, there's a TigerDirect.ca closeby and they have the 3760W on display. The 3760W has the DNX Image Processor and from what I've seen, it seems to do a pretty good job with DVDs and, likely, cable TV broadcasts. The 3752W does not seem to have the DNX Image Processor and if the picture quality is very similar to the 3252W and 2752W, it might be a bit of a disappointment. Now, if one is only watching only HD sources, it should be great.

[michelb]

When I bought this tv 3 weeks ago the sales rep that I spoke with actually told me that I should keep the box because if I wanted to upgrade or return it I would need it. He's the one that gave me the idea to upgrade. So get off your soapbox. I did not say that it would be a good idea to return your 12-yr old tv.

I believe that Coscto calls it a Satisfaction Guarantee. Well tell me how I can be satisfied with a 32" tv when I can buy a 37" tv 3 weeks later for the same price?!!!

Thanks for the comment, but how about next time you think before you type...

victa...

I'd be pretty surprised if the sales rep said to keep the box in case you want to 'upgrade' ('return' / 'exchange' I have can believe).

If you were satisfied with the price 3 weeks ago and decided to purchase it then, you should still be satisfied with that price now. If the price had gone up, would you accept it if they sent you a bill for the price increase? Furthermore, this thread has been going on since July 25th so for almost 3 months we've rumored / suspected that the 37" would be $999 so you could have known about this 3 weeks ago. Part of Costco's operating principal is that they sell at very low markup and because of that, they don't offer a price protection policy (if they paid $950 for the TV you bought for $999 and since then the manufacturer has reduced the price Costco pays to $750, why should Costco have to refund your money? The unit you bought still cost them $950).

Personally, I think Costco should update it's policy so that they only refund the last price of the item or of a comparable one (i.e. if you bought the 32" at $899 and you want to return it now, you get $799 or whatever the current price is). This is only fair since the intent of this policy is to provide a hassle free of getting exchanges if you have any problems. If you bought it at $899 and it's not working not, they'd give you $799 which you can use to buy a brand new one OF THE SAME OR SIMILAR MODEL.

Just my 2cents.

[Rosico]

Given all the hype, Costco should give RFD a prize to hand out for the first person to purchase this and demonstrate proof of ownership ...

"The Hype is Real Cup" or something like that...

And victa - I'd return your tv now instead of trading up the day of... costco can flag accounts.

[victa]

I'd be pretty surprised if the sales rep said to keep the box in case you want to 'upgrade' ('return' / 'exchange' I have can believe).

If you were satisfied with the price 3 weeks ago and decided to purchase it then, you should still be satisfied with that price now. If the price had gone up, would you accept it if they sent you a bill for the price increase? Furthermore, this thread has been going on since July 25th so for almost 3 months we've rumored / suspected that the 37" would be $999 so you could have known about this 3 weeks ago. Part of Costco's operating principal is that they sell at very low markup and because of that, they don't offer a price protection policy (if they paid $950 for the TV you bought for $999 and since then the manufacturer has reduced the price Costco pays to $750, why should Costco have to refund your money? The unit you bought still cost them $950).

Personally, I think Costco should update it's policy so that they only refund the last price of the item or of a comparable one (i.e. if you bought the 32" at $899 and you want to return it now, you get $799 or whatever the current price is). This is only fair since the intent of this policy is to provide a hassle free of getting exchanges if you have any problems. If you bought it at $899 and it's not working not, they'd give you $799 which you can use to buy a brand new one OF THE SAME OR SIMILAR MODEL.

Just my 2cents.


It's a shame that your 2cents are in a currency that no one wants. anyway, as you can see I am what you might call a "newbie" I just found this site end of last week.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT A 37" WOULD BE COMING OUT TO RIVAL MINE!!

And just to let you know, they DO offer a price protection policy, it's 60days and I have the email from Costco customer support to prove it.

Again, think before you type.

Victa

[Evil Techie]

Anyone close to the Costco@Heartland, there's a TigerDirect.ca closeby and they have the 3760W on display. The 3760W has the DNX Image Processor and from what I've seen, it seems to do a pretty good job with DVDs and, likely, cable TV broadcasts. The 3752W does not seem to have the DNX Image Processor and if the picture quality is very similar to the 3252W and 2752W, it might be a bit of a disappointment. Now, if one is only watching only HD sources, it should be great.


how do you know it wont have the DNX image processor?
now im wondering if i should get 3760 instead since i'll be watching mostly SDTV

[Supershyguy]

Given all the hype, Costco should give RFD a prize to hand out for the first person to purchase this and demonstrate proof of ownership ...

"The Hype is Real Cup" or something like that...

And victa - I'd return your tv now instead of trading up the day of... costco can flag accounts.

lol

[gmark2000]

All you guys keep yammerin' like the experts...

I have an aquaintance who works at the Costco in Ancaster and she told me that whatever you paid for an item and you have a receipt, you will get a refund of that same amount. No receipt, you will get back the last selling price. (Excepting the 6 month computer return policy posted in the stores.)

She said that the oldest return that they had was someone bringing in a television that was bought over ten years ago and they "just weren't happy with it". They gave the guy a full refund, no questions asked.

[crikey]

how do you know it wont have the DNX image processor?
now im wondering if i should get 3760 instead since i'll be watching mostly SDTV

3760W Spec Sheet (http://www.viewsonic.com/pdf/us_eng/products/N3760w_low.pdf) says 3760W has DNX™ IMAGE PROCESSING TECHNOLOGY while 3752W Spec Sheet (http://www.viewsonic.com/pdf/us_eng/products/N3752w-1_Oct_2006.pdf) does not.

All I'm saying is check out both the 3760W and 3752W and make your own visual , picture quality comparisons. From what I've seen on the 3760W, it looks good for SDTV.

[victa]

All you guys keep yammerin' like the experts...

I have an aquaintance who works at the Costco in Ancaster and she told me that whatever you paid for an item and you have a receipt, you will get a refund of that same amount. No receipt, you will get back the last selling price. (Excepting the 6 month computer return policy posted in the stores.)

She said that the oldest return that they had was someone bringing in a television that was bought over ten years ago and they "just weren't happy with it". They gave the guy a full refund, no questions asked.

Thanks for the insight gmark seriously, I don't claim to be an expert and i hope that i don't come across like one.:lol:

[victa]

3760W Spec Sheet (http://www.viewsonic.com/pdf/us_eng/products/N3760w_low.pdf) says 3760W has DNX™ IMAGE PROCESSING TECHNOLOGY while 3752W Spec Sheet (http://www.viewsonic.com/pdf/us_eng/products/N3752w-1_Oct_2006.pdf) does not.

All I'm saying is check out both the 3760W and 3752W and make your own visual , picture quality comparisons. From what I've seen on the 3760W, it looks good for SDTV.

before you read the following comment please read the part under my name that says "newbie"...ok...have you read that? good...here's my question...


what is SDTV??

victa

[T3rry]

Meh, i'd rather the 3 HDMI than the dnx... i'm buying an HDTV to use for HDTV, the fact that is plays SD content at all is a plus.

[T3rry]

before you read the following comment please read the part under my name that says "newbie"...ok...have you read that? good...here's my question...


what is SDTV??

victa

Standard Def TV, normal tv, like cable, anythign NON hd.

[victa]

Standard Def TV, normal tv, like cable, anythign NON hd.

thanks

[Luidge]

But it will work with SDTV too? only don't look as sharp as the 3760? If it is the case that might not matter at all if it is for gaming with next gen console and stuff like that. I am begining to think about this deal...

Wallet : shut up you morron you don't even look at TV

Me: Yeah but it would be cool for movie

Wallet: Ah shut up ill be close from now on

Me: Ahh comon it's such a great deal!

Wallet: Talk to your plastic friend i am not available at the moment...you looser

Me: :twisted: Plastic friends hein?!! :twisted:

[cpoole]

3760W Spec Sheet (http://www.viewsonic.com/pdf/us_eng/products/N3760w_low.pdf) says 3760W has DNX™ IMAGE PROCESSING TECHNOLOGY while 3752W Spec Sheet (http://www.viewsonic.com/pdf/us_eng/products/N3752w-1_Oct_2006.pdf) does not.

All I'm saying is check out both the 3760W and 3752W and make your own visual , picture quality comparisons. From what I've seen on the 3760W, it looks good for SDTV.


Good catch crikey - Viewsonic does not talk about the image processor in the 3751 & 3752 while they push the DNX in the 3760. One would make the assumption that there is a less expensive processor in the 3751 & 3752.

DNX--> http://www.pixelworks.com/dnx/flash.html

[eternitybc]

Has anyone been tot he costco.ca website? They have this monitor listes as 1699.00 . So the website is selling it for almost double what the store plans to....?

[T3rry]

Just called viewsonic on the Image processor thign and i was told they don't have any info ont his TV because it's very new to them too, all they have is the same info as we have listed on the website, the only thing i can see that might be the image processor is the "clearpicture" dunno though.


EDIT: i have also found this PDF sheet, dated sept 2006, which shows the same clearpicture, missing the DNX... so i don't know at all

http://www.viewsonic.com/pdf/us_eng/products/N3760w-1_Sept_2006.pdf

[T3rry]

Has anyone been tot he costco.ca website? They have this monitor listes as 1699.00 . So the website is selling it for almost double what the store plans to....?

the website has the 3760, the new one coming out is the 3752... there are 48.5 pages of reading for you, explaining the differences.

[Bastich]

Any ideas? I'm sure its in the specs but I'm rather arrogant when it comes to sizes and can readily admit to it :).

Illegitimate, too I see...
:cool:

Anyway, Merivale Rd. (Ottawa) is expecting 42 to arrive on the 18th, so the "on the floor" date of the 19th seems on target for this area.

[koncise]

Since I have digital cable in my room, can someone tell me how much of a difference that makes in image quality on a LCD TV compared to regular non-digital cable? Like is digital cable 480p and regular 480i or something? And if so, is that a big difference?

Thanks in advance

[SuSHi]

Has anyone been tot he costco.ca website? They have this monitor listes as 1699.00 . So the website is selling it for almost double what the store plans to....?

for the millionth time the model on the costco website is not the one we're talking about despite it's the same size and starts with "37"

read the freaking thread

[coeternity]

if i sign up for the costco membership in store on the day this lcd arrives, can i use it to shop immediately or do i have to wait for mail etc?

[T3rry]

if i sign up for the costco membership in store on the day this lcd arrives, can i use it to shop immediately or do i have to wait for mail etc?

you can use it immediately, you walk in, show tyour ID, pay them, get your picture snapped and they print your card on the spot.

[cpoole]

Since I have digital cable in my room, can someone tell me how much of a difference that makes in image quality on a LCD TV compared to regular non-digital cable? Like is digital cable 480p and regular 480i or something? And if so, is that a big difference?

Thanks in advance

Something needs to scale the SD TV signal to the native resolution of the TV. This can be done in the cable box or in the TV or both. You typically want to rely on the device that has the best scaler chips. I have been shopping for TVs for the last 3 years and for the most part, SD TV looks pretty poor.

Digital cable usually provides a more consistent signal for the scaler to work on but many broadcasters "soften" the image (remove detail) to reduce the bandwidth. Many digital SD TV pictures look blocky. Analogue TV will not likely be softened but has the usual line problems such as interference and line noise. This will cause grainy images and weird artifacts to appear on the screen.

Distance can also help with the picture quality. If you plan on sitting close to the TV, you will notice more of the flaws with the picture. Farther back will trick the eye into a better looking picture.

If you search through www.avsforum.com - there will be a thread on most current TVs. Part of the thread will talk about the quality of SD TV. Some TVs do better than others. Part of that is the quality of the TV signal and part is the quality of the scaler.

[TheTik]

i see those samsung tvs at eb all the time and for some reason it looks so dam nice with xbox 360. will this tv look that nice and have the same crisp, bright texture?

[Rosico]

the 32 inch version of this tv handled my 360 extremely well so I would venture, yes

[NightRain]

the 32 inch version of this tv handled my 360 extremely well so I would venture, yes

While the 360 looks good on the Viewsonic it isn't as good as the Samsung. I wasn't super pleased with 32" version and a side by side comparision of the Viewsonic 32" and an Acer 32" from the source made me decide to spend a little extra on the acer (which also had more input variety).

I got a 32" acer for $949 and it was $109 more to get 3 years warranty, around $1200 taxes in and I have to say it is a great quality TV. The viewsonic is only better than brands like digistar, digimate, and prima. The Acer was a fair bit better and comparible to Toshiba and sharp TV's.

Seriously check out the Acer TV's you'll be impressed, I didn't expect much until I saw it in action. $1299 for a 37" isn't too bad either.

[AstonM]

I agree, the acer has a great looking pic. I saw it about 2 months ago and it looked great. I believe the 42" is like 1699 as well, also looked great(had a 360 hooked up to it).

[Kamloops]

Was in Costco in Kamloops today. Had one of the guys there look on the computer. He found it and checked every store in BC, they all had zero. It showed on the computer t 999.99.

He said they had none on order but that does not mean they wont get any. He also said when they get them if they do the price may even be lower.

They still had some 32's for 799.99

[prod]

If the SD picture isnt very good, cant you just hook up a vivo PC and run the signal through a program like dscaler? Then you can choose your resolution, noise filters etc.

[cpoole]

If the SD picture isnt very good, cant you just hook up a vivo PC and run the signal through a program like dscaler? Then you can choose your resolution, noise filters etc.

Sure - but not everyone has one though...

There are high end video processor chips out there that are not quite cheap enough yet to be mainstream. The HQV processor from teranex is now starting to show up on mid level units. Maybe next year into more mainstream units.

here is a good article on scaling...

http://www.siliconoptix.com/contentEngine/contentDocuments/scaling_jed.pdf

[impostor]

Was in Costco in Kamloops today. Had one of the guys there look on the computer. He found it and checked every store in BC, they all had zero. It showed on the computer t 999.99.

He said they had none on order but that does not mean they wont get any. He also said when they get them if they do the price may even be lower.Lower -- WTH? Quick, start up a new thread: Viewsonic N3752W for $X < 999 by [Boxing Week?] :cheesygri

[Canuck_2005]

Well, it looks like the price on this finally dropped at costco, but not as far as perdicted

it is now 1399.99 with free s&h
http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290601&whse=BCCA&topnav=&browse=

[demanche]

Wrong model again "_"

[Geologic]

Wrong model again "_"

I was going to say that nobody's going to read all 50 pages of this thread but then I realized that the model is in the title of the thread. :lol:

[Bazooka Joe]

Wrong model again "_"


I think the point of the post was to show that the 3760 had dropped $300. Those with SDTV might find that informative when trying to select the 3752 or the 3760 (or the Acer 37" for $1299).

I could be mistaken though.

[bluemount]

In this day and age - are the following specs even reasonable?

Brightness: 500 cd/m2
Contrast: 800:1


Contrast is pretty low
What is the big deal about this TV?
If it is not $999 then get something else

[strangelove9]

Another difference between the 3752 and the 3760:

The 3752 has Dolby Digital sound
The 3760 has SRS WOW Surround sound...

Anyone care to comment on this?

[juggie]

Just caled Costco in Ottawa, the one on Merrivale, the woman said the 37 inch viewsonic would come in on the 16th, but would more likely be ready to buy on the 20th.

Another difference between the 3752 and the 3760:

The 3752 has Dolby Digital sound
The 3760 has SRS WOW Surround sound...

Anyone care to comment on this?

This kind of falls into the topic of who the hell cares, if you buy a 37" LCD 720P tv, and dont buy a decent surround sound system for it, your neutering it. Sure you know, if your just checking out the weather network, you can use the tv sound, but then again i dont think DD or SRS WOW will matter for the weather either :) anything in HD you are going to want a proper sound setup. You dont have to spend ALOT of money, but still budget another 30% at least for a sound setup.

[Chadburn]

Back in the early spring I tried out the N2750W. Although the panel specs said it had an 8ms response time, the ghosting was very noticeable and really spoiled the viewing experience. I ended up returning it to Costco.

Hopefully Viewsonic has addressed this with the newer models. The kid's movie "Madagascar" is a good test for ghosting. On the N2750W, scenes with the Zebra hopping around produced a muddy brown colour when the black stripes ghosted into the white stripes.

If someone does get this new 37" model, it would be interesting to see if the ghosting is still an issue or not. Other than ghosting, the N2750W was a decent set with good colour and acceptable black levels. As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, SD television didn't look very good, but anything above 480i was crisp and it worked well when hooked up to my pc.

[NightRain]

In this day and age - are the following specs even reasonable?

Brightness: 500 cd/m2
Contrast: 800:1


Contrast is pretty low
What is the big deal about this TV?
If it is not $999 then get something else

I'm not sure either, the TV will be pretty cheap but is on the low quality side of the spectrum.

I would rather pay a couple hundred more for a better picture. The viewsonic looks like crap on SD and the Acer looks quite good. Acer has a 1200:1 contrast and that makes a nice difference since it is 50% better. Acer also has better input selections and HD quality too.

[T3rry]

Lower -- WTH? Quick, start up a new thread: Viewsonic N3752W for $X < 999 by [Boxing Week?] :cheesygri

if it's lower by boxing week just go in and get a price adjustment :D

[T3rry]

In this day and age - are the following specs even reasonable?

Brightness: 500 cd/m2
Contrast: 800:1


Contrast is pretty low
What is the big deal about this TV?
If it is not $999 then get something else

accoridng to viewsonics site the contrast is 1000:1

[smatts]

Anyone know if these are in yet at the lower mainland Costco's in BC? Can't wait to pick one up.

[T3rry]

Anyone know if these are in yet at the lower mainland Costco's in BC? Can't wait to pick one up.

No, they'll be in the distribution warehouse in langly on the 23rd, and in stores shortly there after (within 2 weeks)

[Evil Techie]

No, they'll be in the distribution warehouse in langly on the 23rd, and in stores shortly there after (within 2 weeks)


is that fully confirmed?

[GYR8]

is that fully confirmed?

The information that was mentioned about the 23rd is confirmed, however speaking from experience (all 15 years of it), it is very rare that things show up on the *exact* date. And with LOTS of these tvs on order, there is a high probability that something will get in the way. It would be better to assume that they will arrive sometime within 1 week or so *after* the expected arrival date. THEN they will get shipped out to the stores a day or two after that. ;)

GYR8

[Evil Techie]

The information that was mentioned about the 23rd is confirmed, however speaking from experience (all 15 years of it), it is very rare that things show up on the *exact* date. And with LOTS of these tvs on order, there is a high probability that something will get in the way. It would be better to assume that they will arrive sometime within 1 week or so *after* the expected arrival date. THEN they will get shipped out to the stores a day or two after that. ;)

GYR8

awesome
thanks

so i guess the original expectation of seeing this at costco in GVRD by the end of Oct. is still highly likely then

but now im fighting myself asking if i should get the N3760 instead for better SDTV quality with the better scaler chips but then i should just go look at 3752 in costco before i decide

will costco have SDTV feed so i can see or do they only have DVD and HDTV feed?

[Bazooka Joe]

awesome
thanks

so i guess the original expectation of seeing this at costco in GVRD by the end of Oct. is still highly likely then

but now im fighting myself asking if i should get the N3760 instead for better SDTV quality with the better scaler chips but then i should just go look at 3752 in costco before i decide

will costco have SDTV feed so i can see or do they only have DVD and HDTV feed?

I'm no costco employee, but I can't imagine that they would intentionally let a SD feed anywhere near the HDTVs. It just doesn't make business sense to have the TVs looking anything less than their best.

[T3rry]

awesome
thanks

so i guess the original expectation of seeing this at costco in GVRD by the end of Oct. is still highly likely then

but now im fighting myself asking if i should get the N3760 instead for better SDTV quality with the better scaler chips but then i should just go look at 3752 in costco before i decide

will costco have SDTV feed so i can see or do they only have DVD and HDTV feed?
I Posted this earlier, so i'm not even sure the 3760 has this infamous DNX, or that the 3752 wont, since the 3760 was never advertised with dnx previously.
Just called viewsonic on the Image processor thign and i was told they don't have any info ont his TV because it's very new to them too, all they have is the same info as we have listed on the website, the only thing i can see that might be the image processor is the "clearpicture" dunno though.


EDIT: i have also found this PDF sheet, dated sept 2006, which shows the same clearpicture, missing the DNX... so i don't know at all

http://www.viewsonic.com/pdf/us_eng/products/N3760w-1_Sept_2006.pdf

[ScoFF]

someone mentioned this would be in Ottawa on the 19th, thursday I think?

[T3rry]

someone mentioned this would be in Ottawa on the 19th, thursday I think?

probably in the distribution center on the 19th, probably not in stores for a few days after that. but it doesn't hurt to call and ask.

[crikey]

i'm not even sure the 3760 has this infamous DNX, or that the 3752 wont, since the 3760 was never advertised with dnx previously.

http://www.viewsonic.com/pdf/us_eng/products/N3760w_low.pdf says 3760 has DNX Image Processing. So, I would not say it was *never* advertised with DNX.

Viewsonic may have renamed DNX Image Processing to Advanced ClearPicture™ electronics to make it appear that the technology is theirs. In any case, 3752W only indicates ClearPicture™ electronics not *Advanced*. So, there is likely a difference in the upscaler between the 2 sets. Consequently, a difference in price.

Like I said before, take a look at the picture quality between the two and if there is a noticeable, but acceptable, difference on the 3752W picture quality, then go for it. Costco return policy is unmatched. There is a 3760W display at the TigerDirect.ca location in Heartland, Mississauga (which is a stone's throw away from Costco@Hearltand) that one can view before going to Costco. IMO, this was the only Viewsonic LCD TV that did not have a grainy picture when playing DVDs. Having not seen the 3752W picture quality, I can't say it will not be as good but having a point of reference before plunking down $1000 is a wise thought.

[Bastich]

I'm no costco employee, but I can't imagine that they would intentionally let a SD feed anywhere near the HDTVs. It just doesn't make business sense to have the TVs looking anything less than their best.You mean like driving them with a cheap DVD player on a 10-way splitter, and every screen set to "stretch" mode? Big box stores are the WORST place to compare HDTVs. It's not their business sense, they just don't have the expertise to set them up properly. That and I'm sure people keep screwing with the settings.

:cool:

[strangelove9]

well, bad news...

I went to Costco Gloucester (Ottawa) during my lunch hour, and they don't have it yet. The rep on the floor said the information given out previously was erroneous, and that the TVs are likely to arrive sometimes before the end of the month, probably just before Halloween.

A second phone call to the central Ottawa location (Merivale) said the TVs should arrive on the 24th of October.

[Mouland]

jeez, every time I get excited to buy this tv, either a new one comes up I would rather have or it gets delayed.

I am not sure now if I want this one, the Acer AT3720A, or a completely different one.

[look30]

A friend who's working for a chip manufacturer told me that this TV has problem with boxy images when fast moving action.
I can't wait to see if that's right :)

[dealguy65]

I'm no costco employee, but I can't imagine that they would intentionally let a SD feed anywhere near the HDTVs. It just doesn't make business sense to have the TVs looking anything less than their best.

When I bought the 3252, I jumped up and looked at the back of all the LCD's and they had most of the expensive ones on a HD feed via component, but this one as well as a couple cheaper ones were only connected via composite....yes the one yellow cable. Talk about dirty tricks to make you buy the more expensive and presumably higher margin TV. Make sure to check what source it has before deciding at the store, or do your research online first.

[T3rry]

When I bought the 3252, I jumped up and looked at the back of all the LCD's and they had most of the expensive ones on a HD feed via component, but this one as well as a couple cheaper ones were only connected via composite....yes the one yellow cable. Talk about dirty tricks to make you buy the more expensive and presumably higher margin TV. Make sure to check what source it has before deciding at the store, or do your research online first.

and what are your impressions of the 3252?

[dealguy65]

and what are your impressions of the 3252?

I like it a lot, especially since they improved the input switching from the 3250 model. I did have some problems when connecting it to my computer via a DVI to HDMI cable. It didn't like the resolution of some video cards. I installed a little application on my computer called Powerstrip and it allowed me to change the resolution to whatever I like, and it looks amazing.

One thing I don't like about the 3252 is there is only one component input, so I had to go buy a $17 manual Phillips Component switcher from Walmart.

I still think for the price, it can't be beat.

[Pro]

T 2 the V! Dag yo! RFD effect making me want to buy an LCD TV. Ahhhhhhhhhh!

[Cas77]

Went to West Ottawa (Merivale) location tonight, sales rep confirmed the shipment to St-Bruno (eastern Canada central depot) was delayed. New arrival date at the depot shows Oct 19th...according to him it could be on shelves Saturday at the earliest.

[redflag]

I am really looking forward to this LCD, but I don't have a costco card. Is it OK if I ask my friend,who is a member of coz, to bring me in so that I can buy it? If so, do I have to ask my friend to pay for it and repay her later, or can I pay myself with her showing her membership card?

Furthermore, if all the above works OK, can I get the same warranty service or not? If so, do I have to ask my friend to go with me every time there is a problem?

I'm not buying a lot from Costco, or I will just sign up myself. Thanks for your advice.:)

[Anessa]

I am really looking forward to this LCD, but I don't have a costco card. Is it OK if I ask my friend,who is a member of coz, to bring me in so that I can buy it? If so, do I have to ask my friend to pay for it and repay her later, or can I pay myself with her showing her membership card?

Furthermore, if all the above works OK, can I get the same warranty service or not? If so, do I have to ask my friend to go with me every time there is a problem?

I'm not buying a lot from Costco, or I will just sign up myself. Thanks for your advice.:)

You say that now but you might find it hard to resist the unique products and occasional deals that Costco has...lol
You could always do the GC thing that ppl in off topic have suggested for shopping at Costco.

[newfbc]

I am really looking forward to this LCD, but I don't have a costco card. Is it OK if I ask my friend,who is a member of coz, to bring me in so that I can buy it? If so, do I have to ask my friend to pay for it and repay her later, or can I pay myself with her showing her membership card?

Furthermore, if all the above works OK, can I get the same warranty service or not? If so, do I have to ask my friend to go with me every time there is a problem?

I'm not buying a lot from Costco, or I will just sign up myself. Thanks for your advice.:)


You cannot return an item to Costco without a membership.

Ron.

[szw]

You cannot return an item to Costco without a membership.

Ron.

How do you know? What if I decide I don't need my membership anymore but a year after that want to return something. Is there a list of rules regarding returns? I couldn't find one.

[NightRain]

How do you know? What if I decide I don't need my membership anymore but a year after that want to return something. Is there a list of rules regarding returns? I couldn't find one.

With reciept you'll be find, I know poeple who have made returns without a membership if a member bought the item.

[T3rry]

I am really looking forward to this LCD, but I don't have a costco card. Is it OK if I ask my friend,who is a member of coz, to bring me in so that I can buy it? If so, do I have to ask my friend to pay for it and repay her later, or can I pay myself with her showing her membership card?

Furthermore, if all the above works OK, can I get the same warranty service or not? If so, do I have to ask my friend to go with me every time there is a problem?

I'm not buying a lot from Costco, or I will just sign up myself. Thanks for your advice.:)

from my experience they don't mind you using your friends card as long as you friend is there, and you're paying cash.

[T3rry]

You cannot return an item to Costco without a membership.

Ron.

That's not true, a few years back i got a watch as a gift and the person who gave it to me told me it was from costco, so i went in the out door and to customer service and they refunded me cash no questions asked, even without a receipt.

[guanghot]

That's not true, a few years back i got a watch as a gift and the person who gave it to me told me it was from costco, so i went in the out door and to customer service and they refunded me cash no questions asked, even without a receipt.

Costco has a record of everything you purchased under certain membership. You don't have to bring in the receipt. As long as it is in the computer, it says you purchased the item, they will trust you and refund you.

[redflag]

With reciept you'll be find, I know poeple who have made returns without a membership if a member bought the item.

So you mean I have to ask my friend to pay for it?

[redflag]

from my experience they don't mind you using your friends card as long as you friend is there, and you're paying cash.

My friend has to go with me? I think I saw somebody mentioned in this thread that normal Amex(like Airmile Amex) is also accepted, right?

[dealguy65]

My friend has to go with me? I think I saw somebody mentioned in this thread that normal Amex(like Airmile Amex) is also accepted, right?

Yes any Amex is taken for payment, but the stores I go to, the cardmember actually has to pay for it on their card.

[scope11]

Spoke to Costco employee in Otown- said the shipment date has changed from Oct 18th to Oct 23rd. Have to wait a little longer....

[Mouland]

http://www.audiotronic.ca/esection/electrProd.asp?send=eng&codFab=SHA&codPrd=LC37SH20U

What do guys think of this tv? My buddy that works there said he could give it to me for a bit less, probably 1350 or less plus tax. Would anyone here think this tv is work 350 more than the viewsonic or 50 more than the acer?

Thanks

[Cas77]

http://www.audiotronic.ca/esection/electrProd.asp?send=eng&codFab=SHA&codPrd=LC37SH20U

What do guys think of this tv? My buddy that works there said he could give it to me for a bit less, probably 1350 or less plus tax. Would anyone here think this tv is work 350 more than the viewsonic or 50 more than the acer?

Thanks

800:1
1 hdmi
35% more expensive
no costco warranty

I'll pass thanks!

[Qwavel]

I'm interested in buying this LCD for use as a PC monitor, but I'm concerned about the mismatch between the 1080i resolution (1366x768) and the resolutions supported by a typical PC video card.

All of my video cards can be 1080p (1920x1080), but none can do 1366x768. Most have 1280x768 and I've heard of some that have 1360x768. What is the result of this mismatch?

By the way, I determined the modes supported by my adapters by looking at the "list of modes" in the Windows control panel. Not sure if this is accurate or complete. I see now that some adapters support 'custom modes', but many do not. My computer, which uses integrated intel graphics, does not support custom modes.

[sleepyguy]

powerstrip should do the trick.

i haven't read this entire thread but i hope this does 1:1 pixel mapping. would be awesome. i gonna get this and if it's too small for my wall return it and wait for the 42inch model to drop :) -sg

I'm interested in buying this LCD for use as a PC monitor, but I'm concerned about the mismatch between the 1080i resolution (1366x768) and the resolutions supported by a typical PC video card.

All of my video cards can be 1080p (1920x1080), but none can do 1366x768. Most have 1280x768 and I've heard of some that have 1360x768. What is the result of this mismatch?

By the way, I determined the modes supported by my adapters by looking at the "list of modes" in the Windows control panel. Not sure if this is accurate or complete.

[dealguy65]

I'm interested in buying this LCD for use as a PC monitor, but I'm concerned about the mismatch between the 1080i resolution (1366x768) and the resolutions supported by a typical PC video card.

All of my video cards can be 1080p (1920x1080), but none can do 1366x768. Most have 1280x768 and I've heard of some that have 1360x768. What is the result of this mismatch?

By the way, I determined the modes supported by my adapters by looking at the "list of modes" in the Windows control panel. Not sure if this is accurate or complete.

I've used ATI and Nvidia video cards and had to download PowerStrip for them both. Powerstrip is shareware that allows you to tweak the settings of your video card. With the older ATI card I could put out the perfect resolution to match the 3252. I'm still playing with the Nvidia graphics card.

[skanji]

Will those of us who have the regular component(?) video out on our laptops (ie. not s-video), be able to input our laptop onto this LCD?

[dealguy65]

Will those of us who have the regular component(?) video out on our laptops (ie. not s-video), be able to input our laptop onto this LCD?

I think you are talking about composite, the one yellow connector.....sometimes called RCA. I'm sure you could export it, but the resolution will probably be unreadable.

[envizion]

The 32inch views are pretty popular, Tons of them go thru UPS nightly.

[skanji]

I think you are talking about composite, the one yellow connector.....sometimes called RCA. I'm sure you could export it, but the resolution will probably be unreadable.

Nope, not that one...the one that you would plug this one into:
http://www.sfsu.edu/~avitv/images/vga.jpg

It's normally used to plug laptops into projectors.

Does the Costco LCD have this input?

[T3rry]

Nope, not that one...the one that you would plug this one into:
http://www.sfsu.edu/~avitv/images/vga.jpg

It's normally used to plug laptops into projectors.

Does the Costco LCD have this input?


that's a 15 pin connector

don't quote me but on the specs page it has the following, which i think id the 15 pin connector

PC RGB analog (75 ohms, 0.7 Vp-p)


If that is not the 15 pin connector you can get an adapter that goes from 15 pin to RCA (or svideo) that can be used on most devices.

[jackboot]

I'm interested in buying this LCD for use as a PC monitor, but I'm concerned about the mismatch between the 1080i resolution (1366x768) and the resolutions supported by a typical PC video card.

All of my video cards can be 1080p (1920x1080), but none can do 1366x768. Most have 1280x768 and I've heard of some that have 1360x768. What is the result of this mismatch?

By the way, I determined the modes supported by my adapters by looking at the "list of modes" in the Windows control panel. Not sure if this is accurate or complete. I see now that some adapters support 'custom modes', but many do not. My computer, which uses integrated intel graphics, does not support custom modes.

My integrated Intel extreme graphics automatically recognises 1366x768 and does 1:1 pixel matched resolution.

With the right video card over VGA, 1366x768 is not a problem.
With the wrong video card over VGA, 1366x768 is not a problem if you don't mind fooling around with 3rd party software.

[dealguy65]

Nope, not that one...the one that you would plug this one into:
http://www.sfsu.edu/~avitv/images/vga.jpg

It's normally used to plug laptops into projectors.

Does the Costco LCD have this input?

If that's just the standard monitor out cable then for sure you can use that to send your laptop signal to the viewsonic. I had it set up that way before I got HDMI/DVI video card and it looked great. That was on the 3252 though.

[skanji]

If that's just the standard monitor out cable then for sure you can use that to send your laptop signal to the viewsonic. I had it set up that way before I got HDMI/DVI video card and it looked great. That was on the 3252 though.

very cool - thanks t3rry and dealguy65!!!

[duckdown]

I'm still pumped about picking one of these up...

Come on, lets hear some great news already!

[skanji]

I'm on standby myself! If it's Ottawa, I'm taking a pic and sending it to everyone here!

[Beradon]

You mean like driving them with a cheap DVD player on a 10-way splitter, and every screen set to "stretch" mode? Big box stores are the WORST place to compare HDTVs. It's not their business sense, they just don't have the expertise to set them up properly. That and I'm sure people keep screwing with the settings.

:cool:If you pay a visit to FS/BB you'll see their high end sets are exclusively fed with either a component or dvi/hdmi cable. They want you to think the higher end models are worth the extra coin which is understandable since they'll earn higher profits with every one these sold. You can find these designated models in their own exclusive show area. They're the ones with the seperate speakers and couch set up away from the rows of other tv's on the wall.
I'm also sure that Sony, Samsung, Toshiba, etc... played a part in encouraging stores to promote their top of the line sets.

[Sweet Deal]

For those who live in Ottawa, and don't want to wait any longer for N3752W at Costco. I noticed that there is a 37" LCD TV with a LG DVD Player for sales at www.pccyber.com for $1,299 (after $200 rebate). I called the store, and they confirmed that it is actually N3760W model. The deal includes free delivery in Ottawa, and it is in stock. Costco is selling N3760W for $1,699.99 at Costco.ca. I checked the difference between two and N3760W has DNX Image Processing Technology but N3752W has more than 1 HDMI head. Sounds like a pretty good deal while who knows how much longer will N3752W arrive and who can guarantee the price will be less than $1K.

I bought the one from PC Cyber. It is so great. I love it. DNX feature, which fits normal TV show to 16:9, works great. Just want to share with everyone. :cheesygri

[T3rry]

If you pay a visit to FS/BB you'll see their high end sets are exclusively fed with either a component or dvi/hdmi cable. They want you to think the higher end models are worth the extra coin which is understandable since they'll earn higher profits with every one these sold. You can find these designated models in their own exclusive show area. They're the ones with the seperate speakers and couch set up away from the rows of other tv's on the wall.
I'm also sure that Sony, Samsung, Toshiba, etc... played a part in encouraging stores to promote their top of the line sets.

Those are electronics stores, He's refering to big box stores that aren't electronics specific, like cotsco, wal-mart.. etc..

[T3rry]

I bought the one from PC Cyber. It is so great. I love it. DNX feature, which fits normal TV show to 16:9, works great. Just want to share with everyone. :cheesygri

costco has lowered the price of their 3760 to $1399, so you saved $100 (if the rebate comes) and don't get costco's wonderous return policy... you sure you're happy? :P

[Sweet Deal]

costco has lowered the price of their 3760 to $1399, so you saved $100 (if the rebate comes) and don't get costco's wonderous return policy... you sure you're happy? :P

Yes, since I also get a free LG DVD Player with it. The net is over $200 (with taxes), plus a free shipping (which is the same between Costco and PC Cyber).

[Cero21]

Anyone get this TV yet... Again, we're at another supposed date...

[T3rry]

Anyone get this TV yet... Again, we're at another supposed date...

read at least a few posts back before you reply, in the past 2 pages this has been metioned at least once.

[qwertyuiop]

Has anyone tried inquiring about this at the Victoria BC location? I was in there today, and the woman who helped me didn't know much, and told me that they haven't had that model in for a while, and probably won't get anymore in, even though I tried explaining it was a brand new model and hasn't been released yet. I did however see the screen and it showed the correct price, $999.99, but under quantity in stock and quantity on order, it both showed 0's??? I'm going to call and see if I can get someone else, what is the SKU? I tried using the search thread function but couldn't find it?

[Cas77]

Has anyone tried inquiring about this at the Victoria BC location? I was in there today, and the woman who helped me didn't know much, and told me that they haven't had that model in for a while, and probably won't get anymore in, even though I tried explaining it was a brand new model and hasn't been released yet. I did however see the screen and it showed the correct price, $999.99, but under quantity in stock and quantity on order, it both showed 0's??? I'm going to call and see if I can get someone else, what is the SKU? I tried using the search thread function but couldn't find it?

Did you try searching for "item number"?

Comes up for me...I could post it here but thought I'd make you work a little...

[T3rry]

Has anyone tried inquiring about this at the Victoria BC location? I was in there today, and the woman who helped me didn't know much, and told me that they haven't had that model in for a while, and probably won't get anymore in, even though I tried explaining it was a brand new model and hasn't been released yet. I did however see the screen and it showed the correct price, $999.99, but under quantity in stock and quantity on order, it both showed 0's??? I'm going to call and see if I can get someone else, what is the SKU? I tried using the search thread function but couldn't find it?

Most the stores say 0 on order, ask them to check the langly distribution center, then they'll see that they're set to arrive in langly on the 23rd, and should be in stores shortly after.

[Devatox]

Has anyone tried inquiring about this at the Victoria BC location? I was in there today, and the woman who helped me didn't know much, and told me that they haven't had that model in for a while, and probably won't get anymore in, even though I tried explaining it was a brand new model and hasn't been released yet. I did however see the screen and it showed the correct price, $999.99, but under quantity in stock and quantity on order, it both showed 0's??? I'm going to call and see if I can get someone else, what is the SKU? I tried using the search thread function but couldn't find it?

I called Victoria (Langford) today and spoke with a guy named Tyler at the Admin Dept. I gave him the SKU Number, 109376. He first said "Looks like we have 0, that means we're all sold out and aren't expecting more".

I told him this is a new item (and confirmed we are talking about the 37" Viewsonic). He then said "Oh, that means we just don't have any in stock yet"

Anyhow, hope that helps the folks at Victoria BC (Langford location)!
If anyone in Vic happens to get any more details, feel free to post! :)

[Cheapdeal]

I called Victoria (Langford) today and spoke with a guy named Tyler at the Admin Dept. I gave him the SKU Number, 109376. He first said "Looks like we have 0, that means we're all sold out and aren't expecting more".

I told him this is a new item (and confirmed we are talking about the 37" Viewsonic). He then said "Oh, that means we just don't have any in stock yet"

Anyhow, hope that helps the folks at Victoria BC (Langford location)!
If anyone in Vic happens to get any more details, feel free to post! :)

I was in the Burnaby store few days ago. I was quoted the same item number. The fellow thinks it will likely arrive late October or early November. He told me to call back to check for further updates.

[marcopolo85]

Is there are 32" version of this tv at costco?
If so anyone have any experience with it?
anyone know how much it is?
thanks

[NightRain]

Is there are 32" version of this tv at costco?
If so anyone have any experience with it?
anyone know how much it is?
thanks

32" is $799.

[Ben Doone]

Is there are 32" version of this tv at costco?
If so anyone have any experience with it?
anyone know how much it is?
thanks


Here is your answer:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/search.php

[marcopolo85]

32" is $799.

awesome, thanks.
Im gonna go check it out today after work.

[dealguy65]

There is a 32", but make sure you understand that it's not really the same TV....only 1 HDMI input, and probably some other differences....and that's the 3252.....they also still sell the 3250 32" there that is WAY different. If you get any make sure to get the 3252.

[parry]

I wonder if this TV comes on at costco.ca (online)? Would be handy to get it shipped to door. Can someone check that out thru your contacts ;)?

[marcopolo85]

There is a 32", but make sure you understand that it's not really the same TV....only 1 HDMI input, and probably some other differences....and that's the 3252.....they also still sell the 3250 32" there that is WAY different. If you get any make sure to get the 3252.

ok thanks for the info, ill make sure for the 3252 model. 1 hdmi is more then enough for me.

and is there a humming sound that comes from this tv? Cuz i previously had an acer lcd 27" and it made a pretty loud humming sound which was very annoying while trying to watch a movie.

[dealguy65]

ok thanks for the info, ill make sure for the 3252 model. 1 hdmi is more then enough for me.

and is there a humming sound that comes from this tv? Cuz i previously had an acer lcd 27" and it made a pretty loud humming sound which was very annoying while trying to watch a movie.

I found a humming noise with the 3250 model and the HDMI connection, but not with the other connections. I use it a lot with my computer so I decided to return it for the 3252, and it's better, can't hear the humming noise myself.

[puff_daddy_58_99]

As soon as I hear this is in-store i'll be heading to the St. Catharines costco to pick one up. HD xbox360 is calling, and viewsonic has the answer.

[T3rry]

As soon as I hear this is in-store i'll be heading to the St. Catharines costco to pick one up. HD xbox360 is calling, and viewsonic has the answer.

I'll br on my way to my local costco for mine too, i alreayd have $1000 in cash card in hand, and HD cable receive in the mail on it's way :D I have been sitting in the SD age for too long, cant wait to make the leap.

[duckdown]

As soon as I hear this is in-store i'll be heading to costco to pick one up. HD xbox360 is calling, and viewsonic has the answer.

You said it ;)

My XBOX360 feels so underappreciated using this CRT regular TV :(

[coeternity]

this thread always either on 1st or 2nd page :lol:

[Antiloop]

is this deal ever happening ?

or is everyone getting excited for nothing?

[Adrian Lankosz]

For a deal that hasnt happened yet, this is getting too many bumps. Soon though!!!!

I may pick it up, but should probably pay off my credit card first.

[T3rry]

For a deal that hasnt happened yet, this is getting too many bumps. Soon though!!!!

I may pick it up, but should probably pay off my credit card first.

you just bumped it from the 2nd or 3rd page, and you're complaing about too many bumps?

It's getting lots of bumps because it is very close.

People have confirmed over and over and over again that it'll be in the DCs on monday (hopefully there aren't any delays in shipment) and then it'll be in the stores a week after that so we could see it on the floor as early as friday.

[Badman]

I've been thinking about it and 37inch seems too small for a home theater setup, but i noticed costco also sells the 40inch but for $1800. Anybody knows how much it is in store?
I hear it was $1400?.......is it true?

[SuSHi]

is this deal ever happening ?

or is everyone getting excited for nothing?

maybe you should wait for the stores to get stock, or maybe when the distrubution centres ship out the tv's

[jackboot]

I've been thinking about it and 37inch seems too small for a home theater setup, but i noticed costco also sells the 40inch but for $1800. Anybody knows how much it is in store?
I hear it was $1400?.......is it true?

I agree that 37" is a bit on the small side for many home theatre setups. I went with a 42" and I'm glad I did.

If you want a 42", I would hold tight for the next month or two while the 42" fills in the old 37" price point (which is in turn filling in the old 32" price point etc). I think we should see a good selection of 37" TVs in the $1000-$1200 range and a good selection of 42" TVs in the $1400 range.

[NightRain]

I agree that 37" is a bit on the small side for many home theatre setups. I went with a 42" and I'm glad I did.

If you want a 42", I would hold tight for the next month or two while the 42" fills in the old 37" price point (which is in turn filling in the old 32" price point etc). I think we should see a good selection of 37" TVs in the $1000-$1200 range and a good selection of 42" TVs in the $1400 range.

Yeah I agree with that too, 37" is great for a smallish space though. I had a 50" in my Living room and it was the smallest I would be happy with, I have a 57" now.

I recently bought a 32" LCD for my computer room, it is a small room and only 10 feet wide. While sitting at my desk I'm about 6 feet from the TV and 32" is perfect for that. I wasn't super impressed with the Viewsonic 32" for $799 so I got a 32" Acer for $949 and I'm very very pleased with it. I could manage to use a 37" in this room but I didn't want to wait for this deal and to be honest 37" would maybe be too big for me in my computer room since I also have a shelf on that wall and at 6' 32" looks great.

If you're using this for a room where you'll sit more than 8 feet away 37" may be small, 37" is perfect for 6-8 feet viewing distance, anything less than 6' you may want a 32" but 37" may be okay if the distance isn't less than 4 feet. If you're going to be more than 10 feet away you'll want at least a 50" IMHO. 42"-46" is great for 8-10 feet though. I'm about 14 feet away from my 57" and it is good, I could go bigger with a 65" but with my audio rack and speakers on that wall too it would be cramped.

That being said I know a bunch of people with 27" TV's or smaller that are not HD and use them in a room as big or bigger than my room with my 57", so it really depends on the person I guess. Many will be happy with 37" since I know that anyone going from a 27" SDTV would be super happy to get a 37" HDTV for sure.

[xeodragon]

I was at Costco looking at the 32" version to get a general idea of what the 37" is going to be like, and it seems more box-shaped and less "curvy" like the other LCD televisions I've seen (making it kind of ugly in my opinion). I hope there will be good LCD sales around xmas, as that's probably when I'll get a new one :)

[lovefreefood]

I was at Costco looking at the 32" version to get a general idea of what the 37" is going to be like, and it seems more box-shaped and less "curvy" like the other LCD televisions I've seen (making it kind of ugly in my opinion). I hope there will be good LCD sales around xmas, as that's probably when I'll get a new one :)

That's about the time I think most of us will be getting it too. I nice little X-mas gift for ourselves.:idea:

[Badman]

sso does costco sell the 40inch in store?

And for how much?

[GYR8]

sso does costco sell the 40inch in store?

And for how much?

To my knowledge, none of the stores sell the Viewsonic 40"

GYR8

[T3rry]

To my knowledge, none of the stores sell the Viewsonic 40"

GYR8
http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10290856&whse=&topnav=&browse=&s=1

It;s online... never seen it in store

[Coppertone2005]

Any Costco employee that can answer my question?

I know it's not about the 37" Viewsonic but i tried posting in the 32" Viewsonic forum and got no answer. Since this is the a hot topic posting, i will try my luck here. The question is only not specific to the Viewsonic 32" LCD i purchase but to any item for price adjustment.

I went to Costco today for price adjustment on 32" Viewsonic lcd. Did not get it because they told me it was not in stock. Is this true? Now, i have to wait for them to re-stock before i get some refund back. Plus i'm not sure how long i can do the price adjustment.

Thanks!

[T3rry]

Any Costco employee that can answer my question?

I know it's not about the 37" Viewsonic but i tried posting in the 32" Viewsonic forum and got no answer. Since this is the a hot topic posting, i will try my luck here. The question is only not specific to the Viewsonic 32" LCD i purchase but to any item for price adjustment.

I went to Costco today for price adjustment on 32" Viewsonic lcd. Did not get it because they told me it was not in stock. Is this true? Now, i have to wait for them to re-stock before i get some refund back. Plus i'm not sure how long i can do the price adjustment.

Thanks!

Just tell them if they wont do the price adjustment then you'll return and rebuy the one you already own. The CSR you dealt with obviously didn't know what they were doing.

[marcopolo85]

Just purchased the viewsonic 3252 from costco. Plugged in my rogers hdpvr and my god she's a beauty.

Cant wait to get a ps3 hooked up to this puppy. Im not gonna see my friends anymore >:(

[demanche]

What city/store?

[marcopolo85]

The brampton location. I talked to the sales associate before i purchased cause when i was there the day before taking a glance there were atleast 20 boxes of the 3252 so i asked if they put them on the shelf or something. He said they were selling like crazy. I got the last 3252 but i think there were like 5 3250 left.

[Raptor09]

He's talking about the 3252 and not the 3752

[demanche]

o... lol

[yuprules]

Just purchased the viewsonic 3252 from costco. Plugged in my rogers hdpvr and my god she's a beauty.

Cant wait to get a ps3 hooked up to this puppy. Im not gonna see my friends anymore >:(

Just don't set your PS3 to 1080p, the 3252 does not support it.

It does support the "lower 1080i" though (note the quotes fan boys, ease up on the flames that you can't notice it).

[T3rry]

Just purchased the viewsonic 3252 from costco. Plugged in my rogers hdpvr and my god she's a beauty.

Cant wait to get a ps3 hooked up to this puppy. Im not gonna see my friends anymore >:(

Or you'll see them all the time, because they'll be over to play PS3 on your sexy tv. :P

[yuprules]

Or you'll see them all the time, because they'll be over to play PS3 on your sexy tv. :P

and they won't leave :)

[demanche]

and they won't leave :)

marcopolo85. we all wanna come by and check it out... ^^^

The RFD Crowd.

[marcopolo85]

marcopolo85. we all wanna come by and check it out... ^^^

The RFD Crowd.

lol
once i get the ps3 ill set up a viewing time where all rfd members may come see the ps3 in 1080i in all its glory. BUT NO TOUCHING! gonna have to set up a velvet rope around it :D

[T3rry]

lol
once i get the ps3 ill set up a viewing time where all rfd members may come see the ps3 in 1080i in all its glory. BUT NO TOUCHING! gonna have to set up a velvet rope around it :D

OOOoOOOH velvet... can i touch the velvet?

[marcopolo85]

OOOoOOOH velvet... can i touch the velvet?

Ill even give it to u once the viewing is done ;)

[bae146]

So I am sure this has been posted somewere in the previous 56 pages but exacly what are the differences in the N3752 vs the N3760? I do know the 3760 only has one HDMI where the 3753 has 3, but what are the other differences. Is is worth spending the extra for the 3760? I read something about different processor chips?

[yuprules]

OOOoOOOH velvet... can i touch the velvet?

It's behind a velvet rope! (Simpsons)

[The_dream2k]

passed by costco.. still nothing..

[skanji]

While we're waiting, is there anyone that is thinking that they are gonna wait until xmas time to pick up an lcd tv?

With a $1000 budget, it seems like there will be a ton more options and competition for the tv consumer.

There's something to be said for purchasing the best deal you can at the time you need it, but does 6-8 weeks really make a difference if you can get a bigger tv with more options at the same (if not cheaper) price?

[Rosico]

passed by costco.. still nothing..

Where is your coupons post then? ;)

As for waiting, yes - if you've waited till now and can wait till boxing day (plus all the madness that is associated with boxing day) then I would say go ahead.

But, I am comforted by costco's return policy. If the tv isn't that great and I can another deal within a personally acceptable time frame (60 days for me), then I am comfortable in returning it.

[yuprules]

Where is your coupons post then? ;)

As for waiting, yes - if you've waited till now and can wait till boxing day (plus all the madness that is associated with boxing day) then I would say go ahead.

But, I am comforted by costco's return policy. If the tv isn't that great and I can another deal within a personally acceptable time frame (60 days for me), then I am comfortable in returning it.


I agree, he didn't scan this weeks coupons for us! :)

[T3rry]

While we're waiting, is there anyone that is thinking that they are gonna wait until xmas time to pick up an lcd tv?

With a $1000 budget, it seems like there will be a ton more options and competition for the tv consumer.

There's something to be said for purchasing the best deal you can at the time you need it, but does 6-8 weeks really make a difference if you can get a bigger tv with more options at the same (if not cheaper) price?

Some of us have already been waiting much longer than that for this one :P

[Smoke]

While we're waiting, is there anyone that is thinking that they are gonna wait until xmas time to pick up an lcd tv?

With a $1000 budget, it seems like there will be a ton more options and competition for the tv consumer.

There's something to be said for purchasing the best deal you can at the time you need it, but does 6-8 weeks really make a difference if you can get a bigger tv with more options at the same (if not cheaper) price?

i'm in the same boat...my budget is $1000 and i just entered the market for an HDTV...ideally i'd have it by the time the NBA season starts (the 31st), but if i can score a great deal on boxing day, i wouldn't mind waiting a little longer...

i have a question though - i'm a noob to this so don't laugh - is there a difference between buying a monitor to use as my tv (and for playing 360/ps3) like the viewsonic ones in this thread, and the tvs i see at future shop/best buy (the samsung/sony/sharp ones)?

[Rosico]

i'm in the same boat...my budget is $1000 and i just entered the market for an HDTV...ideally i'd have it by the time the NBA season starts (the 31st), but if i can score a great deal on boxing day, i wouldn't mind waiting a little longer...

i have a question though - i'm a noob to this so don't laugh - is there a difference between buying a monitor to use as my tv (and for playing 360/ps3) like the viewsonic ones in this thread, and the tvs i see at future shop/best buy (the samsung/sony/sharp ones)?

Hmm, I think you should take the time and look at this. Quick answer, yes and no. http://home-theater-guide.workshops.help.com/

[T3rry]

I emailed viewsonic asking about the DNX and the differnces between the 2 displays and this was thier response.




Hello, I am considering the purchase of a N3752w at Costco in a few weeks when it hits the shelves. I noticed that the N3752w mentions DNX image processing in it's spec sheet, where as the N3752w doesn't, just wondering if the N3752 does have DNX or not, since I was under the impression it's essentially the same set just Exclusive to Costco Canada. Thanks

-----------------------------

Dear Terry:

The N3752w does not have the DNX feature.

Regards,

Tommy Jue
Sr. Quality Engineer
ViewSonic Corporation

-----------------------------

Could you please tell me all the differences between the 3760 and 3752?

Thanks

-----------------------------

Dear Terry:

The N3760w will offer a bit of a better image due to the internal electronics utilized. Hence the cost differential. Basically the DNX feature is like other companies such as Samsung, LG, Sony, etc to improve or enhance the image quality. You'll need to look at units side by side to make your subjective decision on what you deem to be a good quality image. Apologize if I can't make this an easier choice for you. But my personal opinion is that if you expect to make full use of the PIP/POP feature, then get the N3752w. If this feature is not so important to you then, go with the N3760w for a better image.

Regards,

Tommy Jue
Sr. Quality Engineer

------------------------

[crikey]

So I am sure this has been posted somewere in the previous 56 pages but exacly what are the differences in the N3752 vs the N3760? I do know the 3760 only has one HDMI where the 3753 has 3, but what are the other differences. Is is worth spending the extra for the 3760? I read something about different processor chips?

The post above is the answer this question.

[duckdown]

Was today (Monday) the day that alot of these stores said they would be expecting shipments?

[cannon_fodder]

While we're waiting, is there anyone that is thinking that they are gonna wait until xmas time to pick up an lcd tv?

With a $1000 budget, it seems like there will be a ton more options and competition for the tv consumer.

There's something to be said for purchasing the best deal you can at the time you need it, but does 6-8 weeks really make a difference if you can get a bigger tv with more options at the same (if not cheaper) price?

Since I don't NEED a new TV, I will wait until I find something with all of the items below:

1. Price under $1k (especially if I can get it with 20% off GC's)
2. 37" or larger
3. 1080p input support (so that I can hook up my laptop at 1920x1080)
4. ATSC tuner built in

At the rate the prices are dropping, I certainly may not get it this year, but 2007 for sure.

[SuSHi]

everyone knows they're coming now just be patient people

[newkid]

i have a question though - i'm a noob to this so don't laugh - is there a difference between buying a monitor to use as my tv (and for playing 360/ps3) like the viewsonic ones in this thread, and the tvs i see at future shop/best buy (the samsung/sony/sharp ones)?

a viewsonic/daytek/westinghouse will do u just fine im certain especially if ur on a budget...

im satisfied with my daytek and xbox 360 :lol:

[Snakebyte]

Found in another forum. Presumably a COSTCO employee but not sure so take it with a grain of salt.

Okay so!

I've been watching the computers at work for the status of the 37" viewsonic lcd.

finally today they have actually put in the order's to individual stores, rather than just to the depot. i did a little further investigating and it looks like they were scheduled to land in Langley at 5:30am, October 23rd.

Now, i've never been to the langley depot but i've heard its REALLY large. So i don't know what kind of turnaround time they have on products, but from experience i'd say its usually very very short.

Long story short, i expect to see this tv in stores within the next 3-4 days.

as for you western canadians, every store has them on order, in quantity from 30-50, depending on the size of the store (south calgary, #1 in sales overall, has the most, whereas a store like red deer would be getting significantly less.)

We could see them as early as this weekend, but if not, definitely within one week they will be in stores.

Also, just for a little clarification, the computer lists the model as the 3752, NOT the 3760 on the website. check the viewsonic website for more info.

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/tv.../lcdtv/n3752w/

*3* HDMI inputs!!!

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=50570

Shouldn't be too long now...... Hopefully.

[T3rry]

yeah i spoke with 2 costcos in calgary and they said that they now have them "on order" but they are still not "in transit" when they become "in transit" then they expect them within 2-3 days... i'll be calling each day for a status update, i cant wait to get this whole ordeal over with :P This week is going so slow.

[marcopolo85]

ive had the viewsonic 32" 3252 model for about 3 days now. Everything is nice exept sdtv. When i plugged in the cable line right into the tv everything looked so blocky. The picture quality is pretty bad. I have rogers hdpvr the HD output tho is nice.

[T3rry]

ive had the viewsonic 32" 3252 model for about 3 days now. Everything is nice exept sdtv. When i plugged in the cable line right into the tv everything looked so blocky. The picture quality is pretty bad. I have rogers hdpvr the HD output tho is nice.


is it decent quality on SD channels on your cable box?

[marcopolo85]

is it decent quality on SD channels on your cable box?

its better... not by a whole lot tho

[coeternity]

i wonder who will be the first rfder to write "i got it" and post the pictures :lol:

[T3rry]

i wonder who will be the first rfder to write "i got it" and post the pictures :lol:

hopefully ME :D

[Rosico]

You will win the Official RedFlagDeals Hype It Up Award co-presented by Costco and Viewsonic.

Any day now, any day now ...

[parry]

3760 is selling for $999 in the states costco

[methyl]

Can't wait any longer!!!

[The_dream2k]

its funny how the costco employee now knows who I am when I call to ask if they received the TV..

[T3rry]

its funny how the costco employee now knows who I am when I call to ask if they received the TV..

Lol, im surprised they dont recognise my voice yet :P

Anyways, i just called, same deal as previously "We were supposed to receive it in the depot on monday, we usually get stuff a week after that" and it still says "on order" not "in transit"

[coeternity]

probably it will arrives by the time the thread reaches 80 pages and then it will suddenly jumps to over 100 pages :lol:

[demanche]

probably it will arrives by the time the thread reaches 80 pages and then it will suddenly jumps to over 100 pages :lol:

And by this time higher quality monitors have already reached the same price point ;) (i wish)

[yuprules]

Can't wait any longer!!!

Build a time machine and go FORWARD :)

[itsyours]

I heard that the mods will lock this thread on Dec. 1st if nothing happened!
Future shop also mentions they will get their exclusive Toshiba 37" LCD HDTV with 1:2000 contrast ratio, 1080p for $999 intime for early Christmas shoppers.




.......
j/k.

:cheesygri

[kingsley]

You will win the Official RedFlagDeals Hype It Up Award co-presented by Costco and Viewsonic.

Any day now, any day now ...

lol, seriously, who here is buying it just because everybody else is buying it?

[jon_boy250]

Future shop also mentions they will get their exclusive Toshiba 37" LCD HDTV with 1:2000 contrast ratio, 1080p for $999 intime for early Christmas shoppers.


Is this just a rumour or is this confirmed? If this is true then I would rather wait for that deal....

[The_dream2k]

Is this just a rumour or is this confirmed? If this is true then I would rather wait for that deal....

he said he was joking:lol:

[Rosico]

Is this just a rumour or is this confirmed? If this is true then I would rather wait for that deal....

I heard that the mods will lock this thread on Dec. 1st if nothing happened!
Future shop also mentions they will get their exclusive Toshiba 37" LCD HDTV with 1:2000 contrast ratio, 1080p for $999 intime for early Christmas shoppers.




.......
j/k.

:cheesygri


Please note the 'j/k' point - but then again ... who knows what people will maul each other for come Dec 26.

[jon_boy250]

Dammit I got really excited!!

[flea17]

Some of you people are a tad ridiculous, have you actually tested the 32" Viewsonic?

The PQ for SD broadcasting is terrible, the colours are average, and the HD is good at best. I bought a Sharp 37" for $1299 months ago, yet you guys sit here and wait for months on end for a set that is $300 cheaper and far inferior?!

[wild]

Some of you people are a tad ridiculous, have you actually tested the 32" Viewsonic?

The PQ for SD broadcasting is terrible, the colours are average, and the HD is good at best. I bought a Sharp 37" for $1299 months ago, yet you guys sit here and wait for months on end for a set that is $300 cheaper and far inferior?!

no one said this was redflaggeniuses :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Rosico]

Some of you people are a tad ridiculous, have you actually tested the 32" Viewsonic?

The PQ for SD broadcasting is terrible, the colours are average, and the HD is good at best. I bought a Sharp 37" for $1299 months ago, yet you guys sit here and wait for months on end for a set that is $300 cheaper and far inferior?!

yes. sad, isn't it? :)

[Xeff]

wow go with the 37" Digimate it is 1080p much better then a 32 with 720. oh and the digimate is only 100 bucks more

[Qwavel]

wow go with the 37" Digimate it is 1080p much better then a 32 with 720. oh and the digimate is only 100 bucks more

$100 bucks more? Where?

[duckdown]

I heard that the mods will lock this thread on Dec. 1st if nothing happened!
Future shop also mentions they will get their exclusive Toshiba 37" LCD HDTV with 1:2000 contrast ratio, 1080p for $999 intime for early Christmas shoppers.




.......
j/k.

:cheesygri

lamest post ever award

[Sharp]

$100 bucks more? Where?

They said at FS in their title of the post. ;)
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10068972&catid=23521#
http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/products/large/10068972.jpg

[T3rry]

They said at FS in their title of the post. ;)
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10068972&catid=23521#
http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/products/large/10068972.jpg

so somehow 1199.99 - $1000 = $100? Where'd that guy go to school?

He cant read either, the digimate is NOT 1080P, and it doesn't even seem to have HDMI inputs, and it doesn't even say the contrast ratio so i dont care to even think about that, also its web only, which incurs shipping charges (unless you can do store pickup which you usually cant with web only)... also that unit is NOT HDCP compliant, so good luck feeding an HD cable box or sattelite reciver in to it.

[Imhotep]

so somehow 1199.99 - $1000 = $100? Where'd that guy go to school?

He cant read either, the digimate is NOT 1080P, and it doesn't even seem to have HDMI inputs, and it doesn't even say the contrast ratio so i dont care to even think about that, also its web only, which incurs shipping charges (unless you can do store pickup which you usually cant with web only)... also that unit is NOT HDCP compliant, so good luck feeding an HD cable box or sattelite reciver in to it.


it will take a native 1920x1080 from a PC via the dvi input.

too bad it doesnt have any hdmi, its still a pretty good set though.

[coeternity]

lol, seriously, who here is buying it just because everybody else is buying it?

meeee:lol:

[T3rry]

it will take a native 1920x1080 from a PC via the dvi input.

too bad it doesnt have any hdmi, its still a pretty good set though.

it'll take 1080p though only the vga input. not the DVI

[Qwavel]

it'll take 1080p though only the vga input. not the DVI
Huh? I heard that it takes 1080p from a PC via either the VGA or one of the two DVI ports. Where did you hear otherwise?

[alpha]

it will take a native 1920x1080 from a PC via the dvi input.

too bad it doesnt have any hdmi, its still a pretty good set though.

It may take 1080 as an input but was is the native resolution of the panel.
(768 vertical?)

[akwok]

I bought my N2750W from Costco about a year and a half ago. Any way I can 'trade' it in? :lol:

[T3rry]

I bought my N2750W from Costco about a year and a half ago. Any way I can 'trade' it in? :lol:

not if you have morals

[coeternity]

I bought my N2750W from Costco about a year and a half ago. Any way I can 'trade' it in? :lol:

i wont even dare to approach the return counter :lol:

[soblecram]

Already in some locations (Ajax for one...)


Have fun guys and galz...

[prod]

Already in some locations (Ajax for one...)


Have fun guys and galz...

YAY time to visit costco :)

[xcell]

i read in another listing that the viewsonic is poor for regular tv is - is that correct?

[ScoFF]

So is the 1080P 37" and 42" Westinghouse's but I'd get either in a heartbeat if they dropped a few hundered dollars.

i read in another listing that the viewsonic is poor for regular tv is - is that correct?

[Neb]

It's in Ajax? anyone pick one up yet?

[Kohl the F]

damn. this arrives as the 32" from dell goes on sale.
my life is full of far too many complicated decisions!
:twisted:

[T3rry]

Anyone have any experience with the 37" daytek costco has> they don't ever have 37's on display to compare, and the daytek seems to have way better specs, 1600:1 contrast is what really stands out to me.

[ScoFF]

This Costco tv has a built in tuner doesn't it?

[T3rry]

This Costco tv has a built in tuner doesn't it?

yes.

[Anessa]

Anyone have any experience with the 37" daytek costco has> they don't ever have 37's on display to compare, and the daytek seems to have way better specs, 1600:1 contrast is what really stands out to me.

Just no ATSC tuner if that matters for you. and no HDMI...just a DVI-i

[T3rry]

Just no ATSC tuner if that matters for you. and no HDMI...just a DVI-i

It does have an ntsc tuner (we dont have any OTA HD here anyways) and 1 hdmi w/hdcp... but i think i'm still going for the viewsonic anyways, just the majority of out viewing will be in SD (though through a cable box) at about 8-10 feet, so i think it should be alright.

But i also have a tri tuner 600GB HTPC that i'll feed the tv with through 15-pin (dvi later if the quality suffers, or if my old matrox g400 cant take the heat :P) i'm hoping if i pump up the res on that that it'll solve the SD blocking issues.

[Robthehiker]

The Mississauga South Costco at 3180 Laird Road has them instock now. There were just 12 in the shipment and I bought #8! There are more expected soon though I don't know when.

[NightRain]

It does have an ntsc tuner (we dont have any OTA HD here anyways) and 1 hdmi w/hdcp... but i think i'm still going for the viewsonic anyways, just the majority of out viewing will be in SD (though through a cable box) at about 8-10 feet, so i think it should be alright.

But i also have a tri tuner 600GB HTPC that i'll feed the tv with through 15-pin (dvi later if the quality suffers, or if my old matrox g400 cant take the heat :P) i'm hoping if i pump up the res on that that it'll solve the SD blocking issues.

If the majority of your viewing is SDTV then I suggest you avoid the viewsonic since it has to be the worst TV I've seen for SDTV.

[Kohl the F]

The Mississauga South Costco at 3180 Laird Road has them instock now. There were just 12 in the shipment and I bought #8! There are more expected soon though I don't know when.


... patiently waiting for pictures.

[Bazooka Joe]

If the majority of your viewing is SDTV then I suggest you avoid the viewsonic since it has to be the worst TV I've seen for SDTV.


Which location did you see it at?

[ravenchilde]

I have the Daytek 37" LCD, and I find that whatever the claim about the backlight, the backlight is always too bright, leaving blacks to be a blue/grey if you watch in any level of dim light. Also it makes a ticking/pinging sounds when it turns on and off, as if something metal is heating up or cooling down. Otherwise it is okay I guess, SD doesn't look too bad. Looks better than my 32" daytek did.

[NightRain]

Which location did you see it at?

I didn't see it I actually bought it (32" version) and was really put off by the quality. A friend of mine also bought one and ended up returning it, before he did we did a sie by side comparision of the Daytek he ordered from Costco.ca and the Acer I bought at The Source.

The Viewsonics SD quality is terrible, many would consider it unbearable.

[JohnB]

Yeah is this TV supposed to be any good - or is it just popular because its cheap ?

I was happy with the price at first, so I never bothered to look into the quality...I just thought, "LCD - Viewsonic - 37" - $1000" - thats about it...

But now I think 37" for $1000 CAD will be a standard price in a few months so I will just wait maybe.

[jimbojones]

I also found the SD quality of the 32" Viewsonic terrible. Since that's mostly what I watch, I decided to take it back. I'll reserve my judgement of the new 37" Viewsonic, but if it's SD is the same as the 32", I wouldn't bother with it.
XBOX 360 looked pretty good on the 32", but not stunning.

[jobooie]

Barrie had twelve in stock this morning. Watched two more 3752's going out the door as I was paying for mine.

[T3rry]

So would it improve the quality to run it through my HTPC? it's still SD content but basically "up-converted" so would it be tolerable then?

[SuSHi]

why would anyone purchase a 37" lcd to watch SDTV? i think you guys are looking at the wrong threads

[googz]

Just called Ajax and they said that they didn't have any on the floor yet. They said they should have 6 available tomorrow (hopefully) and 54 more in transit.

[T3rry]

why would anyone purchase a 37" lcd to watch SDTV? i think you guys are looking at the wrong threads

i want ir for HD i have an HD cable box and stuff, but you can only watch the same 4 HD channels (that's all shaw offers here) for so long so it has to be tolerable for SD as well.


ALSO i called calgary, NE and South, no dice at NE, 6 "in transit" at South, should be there tomorrow or saturday.

[fl4wless]

i want ir for HD i have an HD cable box and stuff, but you can only watch the same 4 HD channels (that's all shaw offers here) for so long so it has to be tolerable for SD as well.


ALSO i called calgary, NE and South, no dice at NE, 6 "in transit" at South, should be there tomorrow or saturday.

shaw only offers 4 HD channels in calgary??? how can that be? as if they dont have fox, abc, nbc, global, snet, tsn, pbs and discovery. Those are pretty much standard with any HD provider in canada. Im gonna check otu their website, if your right that would suck ass.

***EDIT
http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices/Television/HDTV/HDTVExperienceProgramming.htm

i guess theres some optional ones u gotta pay for, but its more then 4 bud.

[NightRain]

shaw only offers 4 HD channels in calgary??? how can that be? as if they dont have fox, abc, nbc, global, snet, tsn, pbs and discovery. Those are pretty much standard with any HD provider in canada. Im gonna check otu their website, if your right that would suck ass.

***EDIT
http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices/Television/HDTV/HDTVExperienceProgramming.htm

i guess theres some optional ones u gotta pay for, but its more then 4 bud.

I have Rogers in Newfoundland we get CITY TV, TSN, Sports Net, CBC, PBS, ABC, Fox west, Fox East, NBC West, NBC East, CBS West, CBS East, and TMN. We don't get Global or Discovery here.

When I first got HD with rogers in 2002 there was only 1 channel, later they expanded to 2, then 6 or 7 and now 13. They keep promising to add more, but I get to watch what I want so I don't really care.

[duckdown]

Why do regular feeds look so much worse (apparently) than your average 32"/37" LCD TV's? I was so excited for this TV until the last few pages of the same party poopers have been crapping all over this thread (you know who you are.)

[michelb]

shaw only offers 4 HD channels in calgary??? how can that be? as if they dont have fox, abc, nbc, global, snet, tsn, pbs and discovery. Those are pretty much standard with any HD provider in canada. Im gonna check otu their website, if your right that would suck ass.

***EDIT
http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices/Television/HDTV/HDTVExperienceProgramming.htm

i guess theres some optional ones u gotta pay for, but its more then 4 bud.

I think it depends on where you are located as well; in Ottawa there's a fair number of HD with Rogers but my buddy is a bit outside the city and although he can still get Rogers Digital HD, he only gets about 4 channels as well (something about there being not enough throughput in the outlying areas and that's all he can get).

[shopper_of_things]

why would anyone purchase a 37" lcd to watch SDTV? i think you guys are looking at the wrong threads

I appreciate the discussion about SD. I planned on getting the TV but I only have SD sources now and don't plan on upgrading for the next little while.

Please ignore sushi. That person had nothing to add.

[Mendes]

Barrie had twelve in stock this morning. Watched two more 3752's going out the door as I was paying for mine.

mind measuring the box for us?

[ScoFF]

This might have been answered but there's too many pages.
This will accept a 1080i signal but the native resolution is 1366x768. Will there be any scaling involved here? I plan on using this with my xbox 360 which is 1080i. Will this be a perfect match for that?

[jobooie]

mind measuring the box for us?

Dimensions anr about 42" x 31.5" x 14.5"

Fit standing up in my Sienna no problemo.

[coeternity]

is it just me or same with you guys?

everytime there is new post, i have to click and see hoping the post is "it arrives"

can we stop posting till it arrives :lol:

[jobooie]

is it just me or same with you guys?

everytime there is new post, i have to click and see hoping the post is "it arrives"

can we stop posting till it arrives :lol:

They have arrived - I got one today. Call Barrie store @ (705) 728-2350 to confirm remaining quantity in stock (item # 109376).

[T3rry]

is it just me or same with you guys?

everytime there is new post, i have to click and see hoping the post is "it arrives"

can we stop posting till it arrives :lol:

Yeah, it's already in a couple ONTARIO locations.

[duckdown]

Awesome, has anyone checked any PEEL locations (Brampton or Sauga?)

[T3rry]

Awesome, has anyone checked any PEEL locations (Brampton or Sauga?)

pick up a phone, ask if they have in item number 109376, then you'll ahve your answer.

[Mendes]

Dimensions anr about 42" x 31.5" x 14.5"

Fit standing up in my Sienna no problemo.

Thx time to measure the civic!

[Nolan]

Can anyone recommend any LCDs that work well for SDTV also?

I primarily need it for SDTV and HTPC.

Thanks!

[chuckfredgoose]

6 in stock at both of London's locations. ;) As of 2 :30pm Oct 26, 2006 ;)

[Raptor09]

Can anyone recommend any LCDs that work well for SDTV also?

I primarily need it for SDTV and HTPC.

Thanks!

wrong forum, try asking in the request a deal section

[akt921]

I saw it in Markham(Woodbine & Hwy 7)location.

[Mendes]

Vaughan location sold out. Had 12.. 16 on Order

[adrianf74]

Costco in Etobicoke has 17 on hand as of right now (2:48pm).

-a

[LanEvoVII]

owners of the tv, let us know what the image quality is like :)

[coeternity]

awesome. finally. calling now for gva

[coeternity]

number is busy. i guess lots of rdfer calling :cheesygri

anyone knows the status in gva-richmond?

[coeternity]

either later today or tomorrow for gva. in transit. just called in

[SuSHi]

I appreciate the discussion about SD. I planned on getting the TV but I only have SD sources now and don't plan on upgrading for the next little while.

Please ignore sushi. That person had nothing to add.

i'm assuming you're talking smack about the person i commented about, but it still doesn't sound right...

[shopper_of_things]

i'm assuming you're talking smack about the person i commented about, but it still doesn't sound right...

I'm not sure anymore. My point is: I'm interested in the SD quality of this TV. If anyone buys this, please report on the picture quality of SD.

[pandaharo]

has anyone tried using this as a monitor yet? How does the display quality compare to the computer LCD monitors?

Response time is not an issue, one of my LCD has response time of 30ms and I got no problesms.

[Cas77]

FYI just got off the phone Ottawa (Gloucester) not expecting any until Saturday.

[trippingmartian]

Any chance we'll see these on the Costco website soon?

[parry]

Any chance we'll see these on the Costco website soon?


I asked this question too. but no response so far. ;)

[Supershyguy]

is it just me or same with you guys?

everytime there is new post, i have to click and see hoping the post is "it arrives"

can we stop posting till it arrives :lol:

lol same here

[tamacat57]

costo poco has 9 now 6...
they just came in!I got the first one
got a pic...how do i post?

[coeternity]

costo poco has 9 now 6...
they just came in!I got the first one
got a pic...how do i post?

imageshack.us

[Cero21]

costo poco has 9 now 6...
they just came in!I got the first one
got a pic...how do i post?

I hate you....

[empyre]

i don't even need a tv but i feel like after following this thread for the last month, i should go and buy one of these.

"damn you, group think", i say, "damn you".

[Dr Butcher]

i don't even need a tv but i feel like after following this thread for the last month, i should go and buy one of these.

"damn you, group think", i say, "damn you".

I must admit I'm caught up in the fever as well, and to think, I was at the Ajax location today and didn't bother to check out the scene....

It's not like they're going to run out of these things in the long run. I can wait for the first shipments to run out, and for reviews from other members before I drop money I don't have on one of these. :lol:

I'm sure the 360 would look much better on this than my 10 year old 32" CRT Panasonic.

[teddy]

Just called Costco in Winnipeg at St. James. They don't have this tv yet, but it may come any day.

[teddy]

And Please lucky early owners, please post some pics and reviews here. Thanks.

[coeternity]

Dimensions anr about 42" x 31.5" x 14.5"

Fit standing up in my Sienna no problemo.

cm?

[al2k]

Langford BC store has 33 on the way, should arrive by Monday.

[T3rry]

cm?

http://www.lambron.com/length.html

[al2k]

cm?

107 x 80 x 37cm

[wpooh888]

Costco in Woodbridge by Colossus had them in today. When I strolled in at 3:50, a woman was there grabbing the last one there. OOS now.

[T3rry]

Called all 3 stores in calgary this afternoon, they're all expecting them tomorrow or saturday.

[gmark2000]

Just saw them this afternoon at the Costco (403/Dundas) and they only had two left by the time I left around 5pm.

They only had the one pallet come in today and they have four per skid.

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/3204/picture26or7.jpg

The box is much smaller than that of the N3760W that I got in the summer. This will fit in more cars because of this.

[Mendes]

Thanks to Vaughan Costco who was kind enough to pull one off the shelf for me and surely another person whom was an OTer

Cable input is a 7/10.. not as bad as people say but certainly not perfect

http://groupbuyscanada.com/uploader/files/1/Pictures%20001%20%28Large%29.jpg
http://groupbuyscanada.com/uploader/files/1/Pictures%20002%20%28Large%29.jpg
http://groupbuyscanada.com/uploader/files/1/Pictures%20003%20%28Large%29.jpg
http://groupbuyscanada.com/uploader/files/1/Pictures%20004%20%28Large%29.jpg

http://groupbuyscanada.com/uploader/files/1/Pictures%20006%20%28Large%29.jpg
http://groupbuyscanada.com/uploader/files/1/Pictures%20007%20%28Large%29.jpg
http://groupbuyscanada.com/uploader/files/1/Pictures%20008%20%28Large%29.jpg
http://groupbuyscanada.com/uploader/files/1/Pictures%20009%20%28Large%29.jpg

[Mendes]

And some other pics

http://groupbuyscanada.com/uploader/files/1/Pictures%20010%20%28Large%29.jpg
http://groupbuyscanada.com/uploader/files/1/Pictures%20011%20%28Large%29.jpg
http://groupbuyscanada.com/uploader/files/1/Pictures%20012%20%28Large%29.jpg

[T3rry]

damn you people, i have to wait until tomorrow, i can't wait, WAAAAH

[Rosico]

wow thanks - are those pics of HD stations or SD cable (I'm guessing it is SD)?

[Mendes]

BTW it fit fine in my Civic Hatchback

[Mendes]

wow thanks - are those pics of HD stations or SD cable?

I dont have HD Cable.

Those are standard good ole fashion cable.

If i can find a long enough VGA cable ill connect it to my comp

[FacistCop]

To people who have picked up the 3752:

Does it have fast input switching and adjustable backlight levels, similar to the 3252?

Also, can you confirm or deny rumours of poor motion performance, especially with hdmi input?

[gmark2000]

Is this SD signal from straight coaxial/antenna or from a digital cable box??

If from a digital cable box, are you using S-Video, coaxial or composite connection??

[T3rry]

Is this SD signal from straight coaxial/antenna or from a digital cable box??

If from a digital cable box, are you using S-Video, coaxial or composite connection??

"just good ole fashion cable"

sounds to me like it's just cable out of the wall in to the tv tuner in the display.

[activelife]

Did someone check when the ViewSonic® N4252W ($999) come to Costco? Maybe early next year?

[r o b]

Costco in Port Coquitlam. 3 left...

[Mendes]

What will give better picture quality

S-Video or YPbPr. and are YPbPr different cables or can I just use a set of components

[Mendes]

"just good ole fashion cable"

sounds to me like it's just cable out of the wall in to the tv tuner in the display.

Correct

[Mendes]

To people who have picked up the 3752:

Does it have fast input switching and adjustable backlight levels, similar to the 3252?

Also, can you confirm or deny rumours of poor motion performance, especially with hdmi input?

There is a Source Button on the remote then you Pan Left or Right

As for adjustable backlight. I havnt seen that option.

I dont have any HDMI Devices as of yet so i havnt tested

[The_dream2k]

no montreal costco has them!

[Evil Techie]

that picture quality is actually not bad for SD

[puff_daddy_58_99]

Called St. Catharines, 4 in stock, I'll be heading over in the next couple days to check them out.

[ephemera]

They had one left at dundas/winston churchill location.

[SuSHi]

can anyone get a picture of a pc or notebook connected through its VGA

[crikey]

Based on the pics provided, the 3752W seems to have a better upconversion chip than the 3252W and 2752W. I will have to check it out. Here are some calibration settings a professional calibrator did when I owned the 3252W (which I returned). It might yield a much better picture:

Viewsonic N3252W Calibration Settings:

Color Temperature:
Red 105
Green 100
Blue 79

DVD (Component Video)
Contrast 50
Brightness 60
Color 42
Tint +21
Sharpness 0

DTV (ATSC tuner)
Contrast 50
Brightness 60
Color 52
Tint +21
Sharpness 0

Backlight set to 'Bright'.

[kaddy69]

I can't wait for Calgary to get them tomorrow!!

Will costco put items on hold if I phone them??

[GadgetShopper]

that picture quality is actually not bad for SD

In my opinion, SD PQ is better on N3752W when comparing to N2752W. :razz:

[one-cheap-guy]

4 in st catharines

[T3rry]

I can't wait for Calgary to get them tomorrow!!

Will costco put items on hold if I phone them??

probably not... i'll be phoning the one in the ne tomorrow when they open ~10, and if they have em i'll be on the doorstep at 11 when they open :D

And then i get to go to work and have the longest day of my life with my tv sitting at home in the box, whimpering to be released.

[FacistCop]

There is a Source Button on the remote then you Pan Left or Right

As for adjustable backlight. I havnt seen that option.

I dont have any HDMI Devices as of yet so i havnt testedThanks for the response. Just to clarify one point, what I meant with the "fast input switching" is the length of time between when you press the button to change the input and when it actually shows up. For the 3250 it was a very annoying 5 seconds, while the 3252 was pretty much instant.

[MilkyWay]

so how will the picture quality of this compare to the 3760? will that even be significant?

i dont give a damn about cable or composite/s-video anyway... only gaming and DVD/Blu-Ray on component, VGA and HDMI

EDIT: also, can someone post pictures of some Xbox 360 games played on this? with either component or VGA

[gmark2000]

I dont give a damn about cable or composite/s-video anyway... only gaming and DVD/Blu-Ray on component, VGA and HDMI


My application is very different. I rely on SD pumped through a Motorola DCT-2500 digital cable box that's output via S-video to my TiVo. The TiVo then does some sort of upconversion to component into my Pioneer receiver which then does the component video switching to my N3760w. The SD signal after all this process looks muddy and dark. Progressive scan DVD looks terrific. I am not sure if switching to the N3752w will solve my woes.

This is where Home Theatre buffs relying on the system controlling the input versus the TV directly, differ immensely.

[duckdown]

Those SD signal pics don't look nearly as bad as some people have been saying

I could definitely live with that if thats just plain RG cable directly from the wall into the TV... That's not even going from a digital cable box, or any type of receiver..

As long as the Picture Quality is nice for the X360, I'm definitely grabbing one

[gottagetta]

Can anyone confirm if any of the Toronto Costco warehouses have them in stock?

[technote]

Can anyone confirm if any of the Toronto Costco warehouses have them in stock?

there were at least 6-8 of them at Markham Costco when I was there around 5:30pm today.

[matt4670]

there were at least 6-8 of them at Markham Costco when I was there around 5:30pm today.


REally? I just went there and there was none left. Checked the computer with a costum service guy and found out there are 18 coming this weekend. I'm gonna grab one myself. How's the Scarborough Costco doing? Any left?

[ccdude]

1000 woo hoo what do I win