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xwar
Jul 17th, 2006, 08:41 PM
I was just surfing the net when I saw this:

Nintendo Oblivious To DS Lite Hinge Crack Problem - Pay $50 To Get It Fixed!

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=8482

So I checked my DS, and low and behold I had the exact same problem!!! I'm pretty pissed, because I've tried pretty hard to keep it in mint condition, and now there's a definate crack on the hinge. Anyone else notice this?

obernewtyn
Jul 17th, 2006, 09:28 PM
damn that sucks...50 bucks is alot...if mind had cracked, I'll just leave it the way it is...probally buy a game or with with 50 bucks instead.

Jucius Maximus
Jul 17th, 2006, 10:57 PM
That looks nasty... fortunately mine has not cracked like that. I think the problem might be accelerated if you are opening and closing the unit by pushing/pulling on one end of the top half instead of applying the force right in the centre. Some badly designed notebook computers have the same problem if you are applying the force on the edge instead of in the middle.

ledorky
Jul 18th, 2006, 01:02 AM
I thought mine was cracked but on closer inspection, it's just the hinge area. Very very thin lines. I hope it doesn't develop into a crack but I don't really care if it does so long as it doesn't affect the screen functionality.

Tsukagi
Jul 18th, 2006, 01:26 AM
those r some pretty big cracks, does it sound different when u open/close it??
i'm usually soft on mine when i open/close it.

TenzoR
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:32 AM
yay original DS ftw, don't have any problems with it :)

xwar
Jul 18th, 2006, 09:03 AM
those r some pretty big cracks, does it sound different when u open/close it??
i'm usually soft on mine when i open/close it.

I found that it creaks a little bit. Most people wouldn't even notice it. I hadn't even noticed it until I read the article.

Even if it's small, it shouldn't crack like that. I haven't used my DS all that much and have been extremely careful. Frankly I'm anal and just can't stand the crack just being there ...

I have one day left on my 30 day Futureshop warranty. I'm going to get it exchanged today.

Tofu Drift Shinji
Jul 18th, 2006, 09:38 AM
Yup, I've got a cracked hinge on my DS Lite too. It's a small comfort to know that I'm not the only one with this probelem.

A few people are speculating that the problem occurs when you open up the top screen fully flat (to the second notch). I've done that a few times myself.

If only this had come to light a few days earlier... then I could have gone back to BB to get a new one.

kcjchan
Jul 18th, 2006, 10:41 AM
Problem only seen on white NDS lite, I've heard from various sources that other colors don't have this problem, maybe a problem with the plastic mould involved with the white NDS casing. The other thread already has a speculated diagram of what's causing it, and it seems that over time, the problem will appear no matter how careful you're handling the NDS lite.

Insane_Pikachu
Jul 18th, 2006, 11:02 AM
OMG after reading this article, I took a look at my ds lite and i have this big crack..wow wtf...is it possible i can return this or something T___T!

conman7331
Jul 18th, 2006, 11:09 AM
get the first version DS,, heck i STEPPED on mine and i notice nothing different,

I weigh over 200 Lbs to

D-Sisive
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:35 PM
yup my sister has a crack in her ds lite, caused by opening it flat __ too much

my cousins isn't crack but she opens it only to the first position __/

ringtone797979
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:49 PM
i got a crack on my ds lite too. so i went back to futureshop for return. too bad they didn't have stock so that they refunded to me. one more thing, i bought it for over 30 days but they still refunded to me. that's very good. :)

Kurtz7834
Jul 18th, 2006, 01:04 PM
This is obviously a design flaw and Nintendo should be replacing the units, no questions asked. Fat chance of that happening though.

xwar
Jul 18th, 2006, 01:09 PM
This is obviously a design flaw and Nintendo should be replacing the units, no questions asked. Fat chance of that happening though.

I called them. They told me $50 US to get it fixed.

Mine cracked and I hardly used the damn thing. I never bend the screen flat .. not once, so it's definately a design flaw.

kcjchan
Jul 18th, 2006, 01:16 PM
I called them. They told me $50 US to get it fixed.

Mine cracked and I hardly used the damn thing. I never bend the screen flat .. not once, so it's definately a design flaw.

Those people over at Nintendo's tech support are even blaming users for breaking their own NDS I've heard. That's a sad thing for a company with such a good reputation, unlike $ony....

ledorky
Jul 18th, 2006, 03:34 PM
Those people over at Nintendo's tech support are even blaming users for breaking their own NDS I've heard. That's a sad thing for a company with such a good reputation, unlike $ony....
Sony's rep is so bad, they can only go up. Nintendo is being silly with this.
They should fix the issue (users do the shipping). Hinges should not crack. That says design flaw, right there. Sad, Nintendo's sterling rep is now taking a beating :(.

xwar
Jul 18th, 2006, 09:30 PM
I just returned it to Futureshop with no questions asked. They didn't have any more in stock so I drove to the Best Buy and grabbed a new one. So I get another 30 days of warranty ... I will monitor this one closely.

Allen84
Jul 19th, 2006, 01:19 AM
there might be a reason why this is happening.

I believe these are happening to the "Made in China" DS's (thats what you get from cheap labour :lol: Quality control is not up to standards i guess)

and the "Made in Japan" ones do not suffer from the crack hinged, as why people with imported DS's are not seeing this problem.

kcjchan
Jul 19th, 2006, 02:17 AM
there might be a reason why this is happening.

I believe these are happening to the "Made in China" DS's (thats what you get from cheap labour :lol: Quality control is not up to standards i guess)

and the "Made in Japan" ones do not suffer from the crack hinged, as why people with imported DS's are not seeing this problem.

You're wrong, the Made In Japan white NDSlite also suffers from this problem.

Blunt
Jul 19th, 2006, 08:41 AM
Crap... I just looked at mine and I have a small crack too.
I got it at ToysRus. Oh well.. out comes the crazy glue.. :lol:

Tofu Drift Shinji
Jul 19th, 2006, 09:24 AM
I believe these are happening to the "Made in China" DS's (thats what you get from cheap labour :lol: Quality control is not up to standards i guess)

In case you haven't noticed, almost everything is Made in China. Just because their workers aren't paid what we are paid here, it doesn't mean that they can be generalized to have bad QC. The majority of computer components are manufactured in China, and I don't see fissures in the circuit boards or hardware exploding every day. Sure, 10-20 years ago, China could be typified as shoddy labour because they didn't have manufacturing technology or infrastructure, but now, after heavy foreign and local capital investment, lots of brand name electronics are made there and are probably no less reliable than ones that are made in the US.

Like almost any company, Nintendo probably has a set of specifications for their subcontractors to follow to the T. If their spec is faulty, problems like this can arise on a massive scale. I don't even think that the manufacturing QC could even predict a problem like this would occur. I'd be even more inclined to believe that Nintendo couldn't have predicted this either, but I don't think that should absolve them from fault here.

kcjchan
Jul 19th, 2006, 01:34 PM
In case you haven't noticed, almost everything is Made in China. Just because their workers aren't paid what we are paid here, it doesn't mean that they can be generalized to have bad QC. The majority of computer components are manufactured in China, and I don't see fissures in the circuit boards or hardware exploding every day. Sure, 10-20 years ago, China could be typified as shoddy labour because they didn't have manufacturing technology or infrastructure, but now, after heavy foreign and local capital investment, lots of brand name electronics are made there and are probably no less reliable than ones that are made in the US.

Like almost any company, Nintendo probably has a set of specifications for their subcontractors to follow to the T. If their spec is faulty, problems like this can arise on a massive scale. I don't even think that the manufacturing QC could even predict a problem like this would occur. I'd be even more inclined to believe that Nintendo couldn't have predicted this either, but I don't think that should absolve them from fault here.


Well said, and most of us won't be able to afford a lot of things if the Chinese workers weren't paid extremely low wages. I'm sick and tired of people coming out to say everything Made In China sucks. Would you be able to produce anything decent if I only paid you $1 or less an hour? Given their wages you should THANK them for producing something than to keep complaining about it. If you actually went to China to see the conditions these poor people have to work in, you wouldn't say another f*cking word about all stuff made in china is crap, you would be speechless from the tears you're shedding.

Corizzle
Jul 19th, 2006, 02:29 PM
I open mine fully all the time and no crack, I won't do that anymore though

B0000rt
Jul 19th, 2006, 05:17 PM
I caved and went and bought another one from FS.

Used the $15 off coupon, but I gotta return the old one with the bestskinsever on it, so I lose $10 from that so in the end I saved only $5 :(

ferkel
Jul 19th, 2006, 08:17 PM
whats the crack gonna do? is the DS lite going to fall apart?

tonychau
Jul 19th, 2006, 09:22 PM
can you still return it if you bought on launch day June 24 from Futureshop?

x86asm
Jul 19th, 2006, 09:34 PM
can you still return it if you bought on launch day June 24 from Futureshop?
June 24?

xwar
Jul 19th, 2006, 11:09 PM
can you still return it if you bought on launch day June 24 from Futureshop?

You get 30 days, so yes.

I got mine on the 19th, successfully returned it yesterday (the 18th).

buddhaboy12
Jul 20th, 2006, 12:09 AM
No crack on mine... good thing too since it is an import (Navy Blue), hope it doesn't happen in my lifetime ;) *knock on wood*

GTAdiscountStudent
Jul 20th, 2006, 12:13 AM
that's a small problem. get over it ppl. the ds works, it's not like the crack affects it in anyway...some of you sound like you're about to have heart attacks.

d_jedi
Jul 20th, 2006, 12:21 AM
Is this only a cosmetic problem? Or could it develop into something more serious?

yuwing8
Jul 20th, 2006, 12:29 AM
if it's for $1000 laptop, i'd cry. but for $150 gameboy, who the hell cares! :lol:

botai
Jul 20th, 2006, 12:30 AM
found a tiny crack in mine.... but whatever.. i'll worry if it gets bigger

B0000rt
Jul 20th, 2006, 12:31 AM
Is this only a cosmetic problem? Or could it develop into something more serious?
Noone knows.

ledorky
Jul 20th, 2006, 06:26 PM
It's only cosmetic.
But for the anal out there, Nintendo is offering free repairs.
Go contact customer service (see kotaku).

Now would Sony do something like this for free? I highly doubt it. They'd be claiming it's a feature.

blackice168
Jul 20th, 2006, 07:38 PM
http://www.dsfanboy.com/2006/07/20/nintendo-answers-hinge-claims/



Being a part of the Joystiq network, we here at DS Fanboy feel humbled every day, to have both incredible readers like yourself, and to be in charge of finding and reporting on all things Nintendo DS. However, when we reported on problems of the hinge sort, we knew we would not be able to command the presence that Papa J does and contact Nintendo for answers, so we left the task of sending an appropriately-titled WTF Nintendo?! email up to them. Nintendo's response reads:

"In the U.S., the reported number of small cosmetic cracks in the plastic hinge of DS Lite systems represents less than 0.02 percent of the total units sold. This cosmetic issue in no way impacts the gameplay or integrity of the DS Lite. Nintendo stands behind the quality of our products and encourages DS Lite owners to contact our Customer Service Department if they are not happy with the functionality of their systems."

Honestly, Nintendo may have fudged up the numbers a bit. That percentile deals with only the reported cases of "hinge crackage" and not the actual ratio of unharmed-to-cracked DS Lites. While I cannot speak for the other bloggers here, my DS is without harm. Whether this is due to how I open it (see: like a book) is unknown, but I do treat it very well. Regardless, we feel that the warranty should cover this issue and collectively wag our finger at Nintendo.

Canadianpsycho
Jul 20th, 2006, 07:55 PM
My Ice Blue import is going strong :)

xwar
Jul 20th, 2006, 11:11 PM
It's only cosmetic.
But for the anal out there, Nintendo is offering free repairs.
Go contact customer service (see kotaku).

Now would Sony do something like this for free? I highly doubt it. They'd be claiming it's a feature.

Wow, it must have changed since I called a couple days ago .. they flat out refused to fix it for free, and blamed me for ruining the DS.

tmpz
Jul 21st, 2006, 01:53 PM
I see a tiny tiny crack forming, just like everyone elses. Going to get an exchange at TRU. :|

Tofu Drift Shinji
Jul 21st, 2006, 02:14 PM
Wow, it must have changed since I called a couple days ago .. they flat out refused to fix it for free, and blamed me for ruining the DS.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/top/nintendo-capitulates-offers-free-repairs-for-cracked-ds-lites-188778.php

It's time for me to call Nintendo up too. Does anyone know the number to Nintendo of Canada Customer Service?

ElvishMerchant
Jul 21st, 2006, 03:41 PM
Nintendo generally offers a 1 year warranty. The problem with something like this small crack on the hinge (as opposed to say dead pixels) is that if Nintendo publicly announces that they will repair (or exchange for a new one) any system with this problem, all of the cheap bastards out there (you know who you are) will just break your DS's in that spot after 11 months to get a new one (possibly in another color) and Nintendo will take huge losses. It's bad enough that people are intentionally bricking their system with bad firmware to return it over a tiny crack. For the record, I've looked at a lot of DS Lite's and the problem isn't that widespread... only 1 out of the 10-20 I've seen had it, and that person did not treat their system well at all. The problem with forum threads like this is that only the people with the problem post about it, the other don't care. Anyway, the point I'm getting at is that Nintendo is a quality company that stands by their products... if your DS Lite legitimately was cracked through normal use, they will most likely exchange it for you, but don't expect them to put out a press release saying "learn how to get a brand new DS Lite every 11 months now!!!".

kcjchan
Jul 21st, 2006, 04:03 PM
Nintendo generally offers a 1 year warranty. The problem with something like this small crack on the hinge (as opposed to say dead pixels) is that if Nintendo publicly announces that they will repair (or exchange for a new one) any system with this problem, all of the cheap bastards out there (you know who you are) will just break your DS's in that spot after 11 months to get a new one (possibly in another color) and Nintendo will take huge losses. It's bad enough that people are intentionally bricking their system with bad firmware to return it over a tiny crack. For the record, I've looked at a lot of DS Lite's and the problem isn't that widespread... only 1 out of the 10-20 I've seen had it, and that person did not treat their system well at all. The problem with forum threads like this is that only the people with the problem post about it, the other don't care. Anyway, the point I'm getting at is that Nintendo is a quality company that stands by their products... if your DS Lite legitimately was cracked through normal use, they will most likely exchange it for you, but don't expect them to put out a press release saying "learn how to get a brand new DS Lite every 11 months now!!!".

I thought that if you treat your NDS lite like some drug addicted biatch then it would use up all the crack, so no crack would be present on the NDS itself. :lol:

ledorky
Jul 21st, 2006, 10:05 PM
http://kotaku.com/gaming/top/nintendo-capitulates-offers-free-repairs-for-cracked-ds-lites-188778.php

It's time for me to call Nintendo up too. Does anyone know the number to Nintendo of Canada Customer Service?
Should be in the box. Don't tell me you threw away the instructions?

ejings
Jul 23rd, 2006, 01:14 AM
that's a small problem. get over it ppl. the ds works, it's not like the crack affects it in anyway...some of you sound like you're about to have heart attacks.

some of us like to take care of our property. i like my stuff in good cond. not cracked or broken... and yes it does affect gameplay. just like ds lite vs original ds.. i never had a ds, and would have never gotten a lite if it didnt come out.. games are they same, but gameplay is different.. and you probably don't know what im talking about cuz you just dont care bout anything.

sfu_lifer
Jul 23rd, 2006, 01:26 AM
some of us like to take care of our property. i like my stuff in good cond. not cracked or broken... and yes it does affect gameplay. just like ds lite vs original ds.. i never had a ds, and would have never gotten a lite if it didnt come out.. games are they same, but gameplay is different.. and you probably don't know what im talking about cuz you just dont care bout anything.
How does a little crack affect gameplay? It's on the hinge and it's not like the hinge all of a sudden falls off during gameplay.
Let's admit, it's cosmetic. Sure it sucks and really Nintendo should replace it since obviously it's a problem with those assembling it too tightly. But to claim it affects gameplay is ludicrous. You can learn to ignore it :cheesygri

B0000rt
Jul 23rd, 2006, 09:25 AM
Lol check this out:

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=8632

xwar
Jul 23rd, 2006, 09:49 AM
Lol check this out:

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=8632

Omg haha, that's pretty damn funny.

I agree that's just a cosmetic crack, but if your ipod's scroll wheel started to crack a bit just from normal use in a matter of weeks, wouldn't you be pissed?

Spare-Flair
Jul 23rd, 2006, 01:21 PM
Lol check this out:

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=8632

Idiot news story. Maxconsole is too dumb to realize that Nintendoworld in NYC is NOT OWNED OR OPERATED BY NINTENDO. It's just a random private videogame shop that choose to specialize in Nintendo products.

kcjchan
Jul 23rd, 2006, 02:28 PM
Idiot news story. Maxconsole is too dumb to realize that Nintendoworld in NYC is NOT OWNED OR OPERATED BY NINTENDO. It's just a random private videogame shop that choose to specialize in Nintendo products.

WRONG!
http://www.nintendoworldstore.com/

That is the official site for Nintendo world, and if you click on Careers at the bottom, it takes you to the official Nintendo website with listings of open positions.

xwar
Jul 23rd, 2006, 03:08 PM
WRONG!
http://www.nintendoworldstore.com/

That is the official site for Nintendo world, and if you click on Careers at the bottom, it takes you to the official Nintendo website with listings of open positions.

owned!

Crotchety Old Man
Jul 23rd, 2006, 03:39 PM
Nintendo Responds to DS Cracks (http://ds.ign.com/articles/719/719927p1.html)...

"In the U.S., the reported number of small cosmetic cracks in the plastic hinge of DS Lite systems represents less than 0.02 percent of the total units sold. This cosmetic issue in no way impacts the gameplay or integrity of the DS Lite. Nintendo stands behind the quality of our products and encourages DS Lite owners to contact our Customer Service Department if they are not happy with the functionality of their systems."

kcjchan
Jul 23rd, 2006, 04:51 PM
owned!


Indeed, I didn't even know until I checked Wikipedia and then the official link to Nintendo World....

duckling.
Sep 13th, 2006, 08:06 PM
Sorry for digging up a really old thread but I felt that I had to express my sorrow to the public by showing a picture of my newborn baby:

http://prismatic69.easter.ne.jp/ds.jpg

Headhunter
Sep 14th, 2006, 09:55 AM
Maybe I missed it, but do the new colours have this hinge problem?

kcjchan
Sep 14th, 2006, 12:53 PM
Maybe I missed it, but do the new colours have this hinge problem?

Never heard of this problem with the black. The pink does crack as well, at least the Asian release did.

baseline
Sep 15th, 2006, 01:15 PM
actually while surfing around I did see a black one with the crack in a picture. It'd be tough for me to find the link now though...

thedon
Sep 16th, 2006, 04:38 AM
Sorry for digging up a really old thread but I felt that I had to express my sorrow to the public by showing a picture of my newborn baby:


if ure near a nintendo repair center just bring it in and they'll give u a new one.... at least thats what i did.
the new one seems to be built better cause i've been using it alot more and it has no signs of cracking yet

ferkel
Sep 16th, 2006, 11:17 AM
if ure near a nintendo repair center just bring it in and they'll give u a new one.... at least thats what i did.
the new one seems to be built better cause i've been using it alot more and it has no signs of cracking yet

do you have to call Nintendo first before, or just drop by the repair centre to exchange?

tmpz
Sep 16th, 2006, 11:36 AM
I think you can just drop by. It says "Walk-in" service at Progress Ave.

I'm planning to go there some time soon, but please let me know how did it go :)

ferkel
Sep 16th, 2006, 08:14 PM
I think you can just drop by. It says "Walk-in" service at Progress Ave.

I'm planning to go there some time soon, but please let me know how did it go :)

Where's this place on Progress Ave? I know NESA services Nintendo... but they're in Markham. My screen is acting up now along with the cracked hinge...

GuiltySpark
Sep 16th, 2006, 08:51 PM
Where is this Repair centre? I have a DSL that has a cracked hinge still under warranty (aren't they all?)

*EDIT* (don't you love answering your own question literally 10 seconds after you post it? ;))

National Electronic Service Association (NESA)
480 Hood Road, Unit 1
Markham, ON L3R 9Z3

(Walk in service is also available in Scarborough for your convenience:
24 Progress Ave
Scarborough, ON M1P2Y4
M-F 8:00am-5:00pm
This location is for walk in service only)

AloneInACrowd
Sep 16th, 2006, 09:28 PM
When I called nintendo, they didn't want to honour the warrenty because they said I caused it because the crack got so bad that the top screen is lose. Finally I argued my way into a return, but they said I could drop it off at the Markham location. So I went out there only to find out they were completely out of DS systems, with 8 sitting in the shop waiting to be exchanged.

The woman took my name and number and would call me when they had some in stock. It's depressing, cause I don't like using my DS right now. :(

bang
Sep 16th, 2006, 10:01 PM
According to joystiq.com Nintendo will fix it for free.
But I don't really want to send my DS Lite away and be without for however many days.

D-Sisive
Sep 16th, 2006, 10:28 PM
Where is this Repair centre? I have a DSL that has a cracked hinge still under warranty (aren't they all?)

*EDIT* (don't you love answering your own question literally 10 seconds after you post it? ;))

(Walk in service is also available in Scarborough for your convenience:
24 Progress Ave
Scarborough, ON M1P2Y4
M-F 8:00am-5:00pm
This location is for walk in service only)[/B]


hey anyone dropping it off at this location, see if they have any other colors

my sisters white one is cracked at the hinge too, would be neat to be able to exchange it for a pink one

GuiltySpark
Sep 16th, 2006, 11:35 PM
^
^
I may try it this week..I'll let you know.

D-Sisive
Sep 16th, 2006, 11:37 PM
^
^
I may try it this week..I'll let you know.


all the way from Colburne, quite a drive @ 100+km distance lol

keep us updated

GuiltySpark
Sep 16th, 2006, 11:56 PM
I'll be in the neighbourhood picking up a car ;) I'll keep you posted.

quikkid
Sep 17th, 2006, 12:14 AM
According to joystiq.com Nintendo will fix it for free.
But I don't really want to send my DS Lite away and be without for however many days.

For five dollars extra you can get the replacement in advance, you ship yours in when you recieve the replacement.

thedon
Sep 17th, 2006, 05:28 AM
According to joystiq.com Nintendo will fix it for free.
But I don't really want to send my DS Lite away and be without for however many days.

just go to the nintendo repair center in richmond. they'll replace it on the spot for u. though i had to wait a day when i exchanged mine cause they were out of stock

i don't think u need to call a head of time but i did. it helped ne ways cause they'll give u directions to the repair center.

AloneInACrowd
Sep 17th, 2006, 11:07 PM
Also asked about the colour exchange, they said they probably wouldn't be getting the other colours for exchange for awhile so no dice.

So maybe if you return it later you might have a shot? No guarantees.

tmpz
Sep 17th, 2006, 11:11 PM
Also asked about the colour exchange, they said they probably wouldn't be getting the other colours for exchange for awhile so no dice.

So maybe if you return it later you might have a shot? No guarantees.

I was planning to do that. I guess I'll wait a while. New replacement = new warranty anyways. Thanks for the info.

Tycho81
Sep 26th, 2006, 11:44 AM
Out of curiosity,
what all is needed for the replacement? receipt, box, etc?
and the scarborough (progress) location is NESA? yes?

Mine has been progressing slowly, but has been getting worse. time to get it replaced (the casing is starting to loosen a bit).

Has there been anyone that's actually gotten a replacement from there?

also. is it something you need to contact nintendo about first or can you just walk in with a cracked ds and get a new box?

tmpz
Sep 27th, 2006, 08:54 PM
Warranty based on Serial number, so when you bought it, it tells the system that this DS has been bought.

I'm pretty sure you dont need a receipt, but just in case if you have one.

AloneInACrowd
Sep 27th, 2006, 09:04 PM
Still outta stock at the Hood Rd location...It's getting ridiculous, they told me a week ago Wednesday and still nothing, my frigin top screen is flopping around it's gotten so bad.