atforum
Jul 2nd, 2006, 01:05 PM
I was going through some microsoft contest site for making some kewl Microsoft applications and their terms and conditions read like this
"Residents of the following countries are ineligible to participate: Cuba; Iran; Iraq; Libya; North Korea Sudan; and Syria. In addition, residents of the province of Quebec in Canada are ineligible to participate"
Is it fair to club quebec with iran, iraq, libya, north korea etc :confused:
http://www.robotinvaders.com/main/Rules.aspx
EDIT:
what I meant was they should be using different words?? Bluntly putting them with the other countries gives an opinion that quebec is some "canadian axis of evil"
Probably they can say, "Quebec residents excluded due to provincial laws"
ian1386
Jul 2nd, 2006, 01:11 PM
Similarly, there's a contest at dairy queen where you can win a trip anywhere in Canada, although the rules say something like this:
"If you live in Quebec, you can't win this prize. If you don't live in Quebec and you win this prize, you can't take the trip to any place IN Quebec. Besides...why would you want to live/go to Quebec anyways?"***
***This may be slightly different from the actual wording.
gman
Jul 2nd, 2006, 05:27 PM
Is it really so hard for companies to be in complience with Quebec's sweepstakes law? The Board was set up for a legitimate reason, and if the companies don't want to invest the time and money to succeed in that Province, then I feel sorry for the companies.
Do the ethical thing Companies! Make your contests Quebec-friendly!
Company can afford money but not necessary time. Says, you have a good marketing idea today and want to implement a contest to start on 4th of July. Well, you can do that in the rest of the Canada but you can't do that in Quebec. You need to wait for their approval and that can take months (I believe).
Will you put your whole program on hold until Quebec says yes (and they may not say yes)?
Shaner
Jul 2nd, 2006, 06:43 PM
Is it really so hard for companies to be in complience with Quebec's sweepstakes law? The Board was set up for a legitimate reason, and if the companies don't want to invest the time and money to succeed in that Province, then I feel sorry for the companies.
Do the ethical thing Companies! Make your contests Quebec-friendly!
Out of 10 provinces and 3 territories in Canada, Quebec is the only one not eligible for these contests, and you blame the companies?
Tell Quebec citizens and the Quebec gov't to get their heads out of their asses and stop blaming the rest of the world for problems they themselves have created.
riskit
Jul 2nd, 2006, 07:34 PM
The question to ask is:
Why doesn't Quebec just change their laws so it's easier for companies to hold contests there?
The other nine provinces don't have those kinds of crappy regulations.\
Stop bitching at the companies and ***** at your MPP.
I think that the other nine provinces should protect their citizen from fraud and pass laws similar to Quebec's
Here is Quebec law on Contest
c. L-6, r.3.1
Rules respecting publicity contests
An Act respecting lotteries, publicity contests and amusement machines
(R.S.Q., c. L-6, s. 20)
Decision, 82-08-02; S.Q., 1990, c. 46, s. 18.
1. These Rules do not apply to publicity contests where the total value of the prizes offered does not exceed 2 000 $, with the exception of sections 5 and 6 that apply to all publicity contests in which the total value of the prizes exceeds 100 $.
Decision, 82-08-02, s. 1; M.O., 98-12-03, s. 1.
2. A person for whom a publicity contest is carried on shall file with the Régie des alcools, des courses et des jeux:
1. the prescribed form in accordance with section 59 of the Act respecting lotteries, publicity contests and amusement machines (R.S.Q., c. L-6) within the prescribed timeframe;
2. the text of the rules of the publicity contest 10 days before the date on which it is publicized;
3. where a contest is carried on for more than one person, the name and address of each person, or where applicable, the name and address of their agent.
Decision, 82-08-02, s. 2; Decision, 88-12-14, s. 1; S.Q., 1990, c. 46, ss. 18 and 46; S.Q., 1993, c. 39, s. 95; M.O., 98-12-03, s. 2.
3. A person for whom a publicity contest is carried on shall, 10 days prior to the date that the contest is publicized to the public in the case of a publicity contest in which the total prize value exceeds 2 000 $, file with the board the text of any advertisement used in the publicity contest.
Notwithstanding the first paragraph, where the contest is carried on by or in cooperation with a broadcaster required under the Broadcasting Act (Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985, chapter B-9) to keep taped recordings of all advertising broadcast by him, a person for whom a publicity contest is carried on shall file the text referred to in the first paragraph with the board not later than 5 days following the date on which the contest is publicly launched.
Decision, 82-08-02, s. 3; Decision, 88-12-14, s. 2; S.Q., 1993, c. 39, s. 95; M.O., 98-12-03, s. 3.
4. Documents filed with the board with respect to a publicity contest become the property of the Régie.
Decision, 82-08-02, s. 4; S.Q., 1993, c. 39, s. 95.
5. The rules of a publicity contest must be accessible to the public and must include as a minimum:
(1) the conditions for entering the contest;
(2) the places where the public must deposit or send the contest entry forms;
(3) the deadline for entering the contest;
(4) a description of the method of awarding the prizes;
(4.1) the number and a detailed description of the prizes offered and the value of each prize;
(5) the place, date and precise time the prizewinner will be named;
(6) the media used to inform the winners of the prizes won;
(7) the place, date and deadline for claiming prizes, or where applicable, whether the prizes will be delivered to the winner;
(8) the information that the winners will be selected by a jury, where applicable;
(9) the information that as a minimum the persons specified in section 12 must be excluded in all cases;
(10) the following text: «Any litigation respecting the conduct or organization of a publicity contest may be submitted to the Régie des alcools, des courses et des jeux for a ruling. Any litigation respecting the awarding of a prize may be submitted to the Régie only for the purpose of helping the parties reach a settlement»;
(11) the nature of the skill-testing requirement that a winner has to satisfy in order to claim his prize.
Decision, 82-08-02, s. 5; Decision, 88-12-14, s. 3; S.Q., 1990, c. 46, s. 46; S.Q., 1993, c. 39, s. 95; M.O., 98-12-03, s. 5.
6. The person for whom the publicity contest is carried on shall ensure that the advertising for the contest does not imply that any person:
1.has won a given prize;
2.may enter a contest for the purposes of receiving a prize or being able to win a prize, when in fact all participants receive a prize.
The person shall ensure that the advertising states the number of and describes the prizes offered in the contest and their respective value, that it mentions that only one prize is offered or that it specifies the smallest and largest value of the prizes.
The person shall also ensure that the advertising states how and where the public may obtain the text of the contest rule.
Where participation in a publicity contest requires the purchase of a good or service, the person shall ensure that the advertising states the nature of the skill-testing requirement that a winner must satisfy in order to claim his prize.
Decision, 82-08-02, s. 6; Decision, 88-12-14, s. 4; Decision, 91-10-21, s. 1.
7. Where the system used for awarding prizes does not allow the winners' names to be known, the contest entry form or the advertisement must specify the place in Québec and the period when the winning numbers may be found out or where a list of them may be obtained.
Decision, 82-08-02, s. 7; Decision, 88-12-14, s. 5.
8. A person for whom a publicity contest is carried on shall furnish security to the board where:
(1) he has no head office or place of business in Québec declared in accordance with the laws of Québec;
(2) he has been convicted of an offence against the Act or these Rules in that year precede the date of the launching of the publicity contest;
(3) the value of a prize offered to Québec residents is more than 5 000 $;
(4) the total value of prizes offered to residents of Québec is 20 000 $ or more.
Decision, 82-08-02, s. 8; Decision, 88-12-14, s. 6; S.Q., 1993, c. 39, s. 95; M.O., 98-12-03, s. 5.
9. Security may be furnished:
(1) by filing a letter of security that complies with the form prescribed by the board; or
(2) by depositing a sum of money with the board or in a trust account in a financial institution.
Decision, 82-08-02, s. 9; Decision, 88-12-14, s. 7; S.Q., 1993, c. 39, s. 95.
10. Where a publicity contest is cancelled or changes are made thereto after the prescribed form referred to in section 59 of the Act has been filed with the board, the person for whom the publicity contest is carried on must immediately notify the board thereof in writing.
Notwithstanding the foregoing, the person may not cancel or make any change in a publicity contest from the time it is publicly launched unless the board so authorizes on the basis of proof of fortuitous event or of irresistible force, or where the board is of the opinion that the public will not be adversely affected.
Decision, 82-08-02, s. 10; Decision, 88-12-14, s. 8; S.Q., 1993, c. 39, s. 95.
11. A publicity contest is publicly launched when an advertisement of the contest is released to the public for the first time, regardless of the media used.
Decision, 82-08-02, s. 11.
12. A person for whom a publicity contest is carried on, his employee, representative or agent, a member of the jury and the persons with whom they are domiciled may not enter the contest.
Decision, 82-08-02, s. 12.
13. The means used for awarding prizes in a publicity contest must give each contestant an equal chance of winning a prize.
Decision, 82-08-02, s. 13.
14. A person for whom a publicity contest is carried on shall, within 30 days following the date of the naming of the prizewinner, inform the winner of the procedure to follow in order to claim his prize.
Decision, 82-08-02, s. 14; Decision, 88-12-14, s. 9.
15. A person for whom a publicity contest is carried on shall, within 60 days following the date on which a prizewinner is named, file a written report with the board that specifies;
(1) whether all the prizes offered have been delivered;
(2) the name and address of each winner of a prize valued at 100 $ or more;
(2.1) the prize won by the participant and the date on which the prize was delivered;
(3) the name and address of any winner who has not claimed his prize, the prize won by him, the reason his prize has not been delivered to him and the measures taken in an attempt to deliver the prize to him, whatever the value of the prize.
(4) the prizes that have not been awarded or delivered, their description and the reason why each prize has not been awarded or delivered.
Decision, 82-08-02, s. 15; Decision, 88-12-14, s. 10; S.Q., 1993, c. 39, s. 95.
16. A person, for whom a publicity contest is carried on shall keep, for 120 days following the date on which a winner is named, all entry forms, documents and other vouchers enabling the board to verify whether the contest has been properly carried on.
The board may, however, change that period:
(1) where the vouchers have already been verified;
(2) where the file includes documents proving that the contest has been properly carried on;
(3) where the file contains documents demonstrating the necessity of conducting an inquiry and it was not possible to conduct the inquiry within the timeframe set out in the first paragraph.
Decision, 82-08-02, s. 16; Decision, 88-12-14, s. 11; S.Q., 1993, c. 39, s. 95.
17. Omitted.
Decision, 82-08-02, s. 17.
18. Omitted.
Decision, 82-08-02, s. 18.
srtor
Jul 2nd, 2006, 09:59 PM
I was going through some microsoft contest site for making some kewl Microsoft applications and their terms and conditions read like this
"Residents of the following countries are ineligible to participate: Cuba; Iran; Iraq; Libya; North Korea Sudan; and Syria. In addition, residents of the province of Quebec in Canada are ineligible to participate"
Is it fair to club quebec with iran, iraq, libya, north korea etc :confused:
http://www.robotinvaders.com/main/Rules.aspx
EDIT:
what I meant was they should be using different words?? Bluntly putting them with the other countries gives an opinion that quebec is some "canadian axis of evil"
Probably they can say, "Quebec residents excluded due to provincial laws"
As you are stupid enough to call those countries 'axis of evil' (bushism), you have unfortunately categorize you 'beloved' Quebec in same 'evil'. You should better know your provincial law does not cater for this type of contest and BTW you are not a 'country' even!