Telus: 19" LCD ending, now free computer/$400 at Dell/$300 cash/$200 cash/DryDSL

[i6s1]

More details later, what I know now:

The free LCD promo is over at the end of the month.

Effective July 4, ending July 31,

NEW DSL CUSTOMERS ONLY (No service w/in 90 days)

Free Dell PC w/17" CRT if you sign up for 3 years of 2.5MBit service. Includes free wireless router and antivirus package. Base cost for this is $51, less $5 if you sign a contract (which you have to do to get the comp) less another $5 if you use Telus for your long distance OR you have a Telus cellphone. So the usual cost is $41. If you don't want the basic Dell, you can upgrade it, or choose a different computer entirely, basically they give you $400 coupon at Dell. If you want, you can opt for $300 cash in the form of a visa gift card or something.

There is a $200 visa gift card, I think it was for 3 year of the regular DSL (1.5Mbit, $31/month after discounts) on a 3 year contract, with the antivirus but no wireless. If you want regular DSL your best bet is to go for the 19" LCD now, or take your chances for after July 31 - but my feeling is that they've got a lot of people on contract, now they want to push the more expensive services, so this might be the end for sweet gifts for the middle service. I don't know if you'd still get the free antivirus sub if you go for the LCD now.

No gift for lite (128k down/64k up), $16 (after discounts) a month is still $9 cheaper then Shaw. ($14 cheaper if you don't have cable) But you don't get the free antivirus.

Dry DSL now avail (or July 4??) Previously you had to either pay extra to have dry/dark/naked dsl. Or you had to have a Telus cell. Or you had to signup for dialtone, then threaten to cancel both DSL and dialtone if they didn't give you dry DSL with no extra charge. Now it's dry DSL with no fuss. Don't know if you can get dry DSL on the lite package.

If you want to sign up, I might be able to get you a free tech install. Give me a day to find out, then PM me. The quick connect is free and pretty easy, but sometimes the techs can rewire something so you don't need the dongles on every jack. If you don't have a Telus landline now, there is also a promo on now where if you sign up for some extra services for 3 months they waive the $120 hookup fee, but you still have to pay if you want inside work done (ie new jack in a suite)

Telus TV is coming to Vancouver this summer, it's already avail in Edmonton and Calgary. $22/month for basic, then you can add some channels for $2, some you need to subscribe to themed bundles. When you're watching TV, and someone calls, thier name and number shows up on the TV so you know whether to get off the couch or not.

All of this is 2nd hand info, and it's what I can remember, any of this could be inaccurate and subject to change, I take no responsibility, confirm everything with CSRs!!!

[Siefer999]

where did you get this second hand info?

[i6s1]

where did you get this second hand info?

A little birdie. :) Trust me, the main points are correct. I might have details wrong, but it's good info.

[sparhawk909]

Thanks for the insider marketing info!

Wow $400 dell coupon?

[bokchoy]

I work for Telus, and let's just say there is some truth to that. I'll have to check the details tomorrow.

[mahjongmaniac]

More details later, what I know now:

....All of this is 2nd hand info, and it's what I can remember, any of this could be inaccurate and subject to change, I take no responsibility, confirm everything with CSRs!!!

wow, u can remember quite a bit there... ;)

thx4da info!


btw, i think i'd take the $400 coupon over the other offers...
(well, we'll see what kinda specs are offered for the Dell PC w/ monitor...)

[Rudy]

not bad if you're willing to put up with the slow speeds :( i already think shaw is too slow...and it's 7/1mbps

[ngp]

not bad if you're willing to put up with the slow speeds :( i already think shaw is too slow...and it's 7/1mbps

You're not getting 7/1mbps consistently. Shared == sux during prime time.

[Aggressor]

Not entirely true:

Myth: DSL connections are "dedicated," whereas HFC cable connections are "shared." As more users are added to the cable-based Internet service, the speed of a user's Internet connection decreases.

Fact: All connections to the Internet, from nearly any provider, are shared at some point. In fact, the Internet itself is a network of networks, shared by millions of users worldwide. The only dedicated portion of a DSL circuit exists between the user's home or business and the telephone company's central office. Beyond that point, DSL subscribers are on the telephone company's central office. Beyond that point, DSL subscribers are on the telephone company's metropolitan network, shared with other DSL, data and telephone subscribers. The user's connection then is routed to an Internet Service Provider (ISP), where it is shared with all other ISP subscribers before being transmitted to the Internet. Therefore, both DSL and HFC technologies provide a shared access to the Internet - but in very different ways.

Source: http://www.atvci.net/truth.html

[ngp]

Not entirely true:

Depends on the situation. If you are downloading from one site, you might not notice much of a difference due to the upload speed cap of that site. However, if you're downloading from multiple sites, you'll see what speed you cap out at.

While I was on Telus adsl, I've always been able to get about 2.1 mbps, consistently. Try that with cable. Cable adds an additional bottleneck which is closer to the end-user side (bottleneck == neighbours). If you d/l from newsgroups from your provider, you'll hit the bottleneck every time.

I'm on 3web right now, which resells Shaw cable. During the day, i usually get around 1 mbps, sometimes lower, sometimes higher. Late at night, I've reached 5.5 mbps.

[Swat]

I remember having the same thing with Shaw - blazing fast speeds at 2am, not so blazing speeds at 6pm. With TELUS, I have a consistent 2.5Mb downstream, so at least I know what to expect.

[T3rry]

the dry dsl is a good thing, i fought with them for 4 years to give me dry dsl with no luck... too bad i am very happy with shaw, or i might consider it.

[rabbit]

Hmm, this dry DSL might be for me. I've got a unused phone line sitting here alongside an active one that has a DSL connection. I can open a new DSL account to take the promo and cancel the old account :). And since the email address I use is just an alias, I cancel it from the old account and get it back on the new account :D.

[milobloom]

I was able to get dry/dark DSL service in Edmonton back in November without much hassle at all, actually.. they assign you a "real" phone number for use when you call tech support, but if you plug an actual phone into the line, you just hear a fast busy signal.

Milo

[drey]

When you're watching TV, and someone calls, thier name and number shows up on the TV so you know whether to get off the couch or not.

i like the sound of that!!!! :lol: :cheesygri

[FlintBlade]

If I won the $400 dell coupon id either sell it for $350 or burn it, cuz im never getting a dell!!!! i like the lcd monitor though =)

[keen4deals]

How come New customer gets the FREE stuff. I have been with Telus ADSL for 4 years at server 2.0 package and nothing. Any suggestions?

I needed the static IP.

I must says their high speed line The 2.5Mbps is really nice.

[good deal bc]

How come New customer gets the FREE stuff. I have been with Telus ADSL for 4 years at server 2.0 package and nothing. Any suggestions?

I needed the static IP.

I must says their high speed line The 2.5Mbps is really nice.

most of the deals for for consumer plans. Are you on a business plan?

Threaten to cancel...see what they do.

[i6s1]

If I won the $400 dell coupon id either sell it for $350 or burn it, cuz im never getting a dell!!!! i like the lcd monitor though =)

Then save it for the 7 Days of Dell. 20" widescreen is $500 retail so it might be around 400 for the sale.

[BlueMax]

AIEEE!!!!! I want that coupon!! I'll have to do some serious negotiating! Argh!

I never got anything when I signed up for Telus high speed a year ago!

And I need a new PC BADLY! Dell would be AWESOME!

AAIIIIIIEEEEE!!!!!!!

[mahjongmaniac]

most of the deals for for consumer plans. Are you on a business plan?

Threaten to cancel...see what they do.

hehe... i'd 2nd ^that suggestion... :twisted:

usually the ISPs will be willing to offer u something in the hopes of keeping a customer... :)

[tjuzer]

Is dry dsl same price :?: I hear more expensive.

[pandaharo]

What happend to the 4month free + gift I'm used to? :(

[dzen]

Depends on the situation. If you are downloading from one site, you might not notice much of a difference due to the upload speed cap of that site. However, if you're downloading from multiple sites, you'll see what speed you cap out at.

While I was on Telus adsl, I've always been able to get about 2.1 mbps, consistently. Try that with cable. Cable adds an additional bottleneck which is closer to the end-user side (bottleneck == neighbours). If you d/l from newsgroups from your provider, you'll hit the bottleneck every time.

I'm on 3web right now, which resells Shaw cable. During the day, i usually get around 1 mbps, sometimes lower, sometimes higher. Late at night, I've reached 5.5 mbps.

I have shaw extreme and I am getting 7mbps all day long, any time of the day. I had fluctuations all the time before with regular high speed and when I was still using them for tv as well.

[BlueMax]

*twiddling thumbs, waiting impatiently*

[zulu888]

so can anyone verify this info? (it's July 4th)

[ODM]

After I complained to Shaw about my Speeds (3 mbps at the most downloading on Bittorrent) the tech guy helped me tweak my Network settings and now from one Bit Torrent site on a newly posted mainstream torrent (ie. Deadwood, Resuce Me) I CONSISTANTLY get 8.5 mbps. I am NOT going back to Telus.

Also using the Newest U torrent Versions with Encryption I have also gone from Uploading at .01mbps to up to 1.2mbps.

[markjia]

After I complained to Shaw about my Speeds (3 mbps at the most downloading on Bittorrent) the tech guy helped me tweak my Network settings and now from one Bit Torrent site on a newly posted mainstream torrent (ie. Deadwood, Resuce Me) I CONSISTANTLY get 8.5 mbps. I am NOT going back to Telus.

Also using the Newest U torrent Versions with Encryption I have also gone from Uploading at .01mbps to up to 1.2mbps.
Speed really depends on your area. I was with Shaw and switched to telus recently. I found some improvement in speeds. I have switched from telus to shaw in the past (at a different residence) and found the reverse to be true as well (shaw faster than telus).

[sparhawk909]

Telus has begun to advertise this deal on the radio locally.

[markjia]

The new deal is up:

http://www.mytelus.com/internet/highspeed/prices.do

[compsci]

The new deal is up:

http://www.mytelus.com/internet/highspeed/prices.do

Are they nuts or they just like false advertisement?

The unit for all speeds in the link should be bit/second (or b, Kb, Mb/second), not Byte/second (or B, KB, MB/second). The difference is 8 times.

[mrken]

Are they nuts or they just like false advertisement?

The unit for all speeds in the link should be bit/second (or b, Kb, Mb/second), not Byte/second (or B, KB, MB/second). The difference is 8 times.
I guess the webmaster did not bother to proofread. And why is it 1.5 MB/seconds?

[good deal bc]

awesome new plans! I'm going to take the $400 cash at Dell towards a new laptop!

[doombox414]

whats a dry dsl? is there a bandwid limit on it

[good deal bc]

whats a dry dsl? is there a bandwid limit on it

Dry DSL is no home phone (no land line)

Same caps as the regular ADSL

[markjia]

awesome new plans! I'm going to take the $400 cash at Dell towards a new laptop!
I can't find that specific option...

Unless I'm missing something, the choices the OP listed are not completely accurate (as they originally warned). It's either $200 cash (amer. express) or a dell dimension 1100 comp. w/17" CRT free with 3yr contract on 1.5Mb/s or 2.5 Mb/s, respectively.

[good deal bc]

I can't find that specific option...

Unless I'm missing something, the choices the OP listed are not completely accurate (as they originally warned). It's either $200 cash (amer. express) or a dell dimension 1100 comp. w/17" CRT free with 3yr contract on 1.5Mb/s or 2.5 Mb/s, respectively.

You can either take the computer or a $400 dell credit/upgrade

Call Telus 310-2255

[markjia]

You can either take the computer or a $400 dell credit/upgrade

Call Telus 310-2255
Thanks for the clarification.

Would the 1.5 Mb/s plan also give an option for $300 Dell credit?

[i6s1]

Thanks for the clarification.

Would the 1.5 Mb/s plan also give an option for $300 Dell credit?

Nope. $200 cash for the 1.5Mb/s option.

[BlueMax]

Ha! HA!!! Success! Sweet success! $400 dell coupon coming my way!

Of course... I'll be paying $10 more per month for faster internet, which is the difference of that $400 from Dell over 3 years of financing - but for those 3 years I have faster internet than I would have had. ;)

Yep. I feel good.

[markjia]

You might want to use caution before choosing the 2.5 Mb/s plan...

I've been trying it out for the past few weeks, and I feel any noticable improvement, not for general web browsing at least. I suppose it might be different if you do a lot of large downloads, streaming, or Torrents. The situation might be different in different neighbourhoods as well.

Over the course of 3 years, it's ~$400 more than the 1.5 Mb/s plan.

[caseyc]

Ok, for all of the people in here that claim that they get good speeds during late night and poor speeds in the afternoon/"peak" usage. This should never happen, and if it is - chances are there's a cabling issue between your modem and the tap outside that's causing your modem to perform like that. Whether it be a bad splitter, bad cable, or even a bad modem, you still shouldn't be experiencing slow speeds (at least not 1.5Mb like one person was saying) at all.

Both myself and my parents have been using Shaw high speed since 1996 and for the times that I've been paying attention to speed tests (last 3 years) it's consistent all day long. Now, as a service tech for Shaw, I go into peoples' homes all day, every day and work on their cable/internet/phone and if I ever do a speed test that is less less than acceptable during the day there's something to fix. Whether the issue is inside the house, the node, or something to do with our backbone, there should never be "soft spots" during the day.

Then again, I work in Edmonton and the network/issues could be different in other cities.

[i6s1]

You might want to use caution before choosing the 2.5 Mb/s plan...

I've been trying it out for the past few weeks, and I feel any noticable improvement, not for general web browsing at least. I suppose it might be different if you do a lot of large downloads, streaming, or Torrents. The situation might be different in different neighbourhoods as well.

Over the course of 3 years, it's ~$400 more than the 1.5 Mb/s plan.

Then think of it as an interest-free loan, faster speeds, a free wireless router with 3 year warranty and techs will come to your house to fix it, and you get to download 60 gigs each month instead of 30.

[airmin98]

anyone know the detail spec for the Dimension 1100 pc. Like cpu speed, ram size, hdd size, dvdburner included..etc

I called Telus, they have no clue what they are offering.. :mad:

[McMurphy]

Google is your friend:

http://configure.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=ca&CS=CADHS1&l=en&OC=OCDIM1100_FEAT_E1

[Decius]

Then again, I work in Edmonton and the network/issues could be different in other cities.

Yeah from what I understand the folks in Vancouver have every right to complain about this. Aparently the Shaw nodes in the GVRD are overloaded. This is a problem that's still held over from the old Rogers@Home days. More info and discussion here (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/shaw).

[pcguy]

Well I for one have never signed a contract for Internet access and I am not going to start now especially for 3 years even if its for a computer which after 1 or 2 years is outdated. By then who knows what the pricing from competitors will be or what other technology will be out that will either be cheaper/faster than what Telus is offering. Guess that they are suffering from that labour dispute that they had last year. It must of drove their DSL customers to the competition.

[markjia]

Then think of it as an interest-free loan, faster speeds, a free wireless router with 3 year warranty and techs will come to your house to fix it, and you get to download 60 gigs each month instead of 30.
That montly bandwidth limit is a good point (assuming you use substantially more than 30 GB).

They actually provide general tech support? I mean beyond basic interent connectivity issues? Perhaps it is just wireless connectivity issues with the router/NIC they provide.

BTW, the wireless router they provide is crap. It's an ancient 802.11b one. I suspect it uses an old TI chipset that claims to support 22 Mb/s. However, utilizing this 22 Mb/s support requires connecting with a NIC with the same line of chipsets. As far as I know, this is nonstandard and no longer supported. The USB NIC they provide is 802.11g. In other words, you will likely only get 11 Mb/s. The router also only support WEP.

My main issue with their higher speed connection is that you are required to use their router/modem device. Which means that even though I am given two IPs, I can only use 1, and only through their router. This interferes with the 2 servers I run. To be fair though, this isn't really an issue for most.

[markjia]

Well I for one have never signed a contract for Internet access and I am not going to start now especially for 3 years even if its for a computer which after 1 or 2 years is outdated. By then who knows what the pricing from competitors will be or what other technology will be out that will either be cheaper/faster than what Telus is offering. Guess that they are suffering from that labour dispute that they had last year. It must of drove their DSL customers to the competition.
That's a valid concern. I was thinking the same.

Though, over the course of the last 5-7 years i've had broadband, I've only seen very marginal improvements year to year. There is a more significant improvement when comparing speeds over 2-3 years. Keep in mind that speed is dependant on both sides of the connection. Even if your ISP's speed has not improved, the server on the other side will likely have, and hence you will probably see improvements. Also, I believe my ISP claimed the speed was 2 Mb/s when I first signed up with Rogers 7 years ago.

[keen4deals]

My main issue with their higher speed connection is that you are required to use their router/modem device. Which means that even though I am given two IPs, I can only use 1, and only through their router. This interferes with the 2 servers I run. To be fair though, this isn't really an issue for most.

Why don't you use a switch between the modem and the router. Each server can use one IP. I am using this setup. How do you get the static IP for your servers???

[retronaut]

Getting a $200 gift card for a new rogers account would be sweet.

[i6s1]

Just in case anybody doesn't like Dell, you can get $400 gcs from Futureshop, Bestbuy, and Staples by signing up in store.

[bcdu]

Ha! HA!!! Success! Sweet success! $400 dell coupon coming my way!

Of course... I'll be paying $10 more per month for faster internet, which is the difference of that $400 from Dell over 3 years of financing - but for those 3 years I have faster internet than I would have had. ;)

Yep. I feel good.


Just wondering, wouldn't u save some money by signing up at the top speed in order to get the $400 gift and then a few months later changing the service to a lower speed in order to save the $10 per month? This is what I found on Teluswebsite:

"Will I be charged a cancellation fee for moving to another High Speed product?

If you decide to move to a higher speed service there is no charge but there is a $20 activation fee for moving to a slower service."

So if u only get charged $20 in order to save $10/m for the rest of the 3 years term then it is definitely worth it to do so for most of us who don't nee the top speed.
Anyone has any idea if this is correct?

[Benh]

sorry to bump this.....but does anyone know if the 400$ dell coupon can be used on monitors or is it only good towards a laptop/desktop? I have the chance to buy the coupon but i want a monitor.

[BlueMax]

It works on anything.

[tigrbalm]

That's a valid concern. I was thinking the same.

Though, over the course of the last 5-7 years i've had broadband, I've only seen very marginal improvements year to year. There is a more significant improvement when comparing speeds over 2-3 years. Keep in mind that speed is dependant on both sides of the connection. Even if your ISP's speed has not improved, the server on the other side will likely have, and hence you will probably see improvements. Also, I believe my ISP claimed the speed was 2 Mb/s when I first signed up with Rogers 7 years ago.

Oh hells yes, this country's internet evolution is probably the worst I've seen in the world.

We are happy to pay 40$/month for CRAP speeds and CAPS. Whereas the rest of the world is quickly moving ahead, Canada lags far behind in internet speed and service. Why can't we follow the lead of nations like Sweden, Japan and Korea? Don't even give me that lame argument that "CANADUH IS 2 BIG FOR FTTP", thats the kind of mindset that keeps this nation in the dumps. Hell even Pakistan recently deployed FTTP networks in Islamabad. Down with Shaw, Smelus, and the rest of the cronies keeping us from what the internet should be.