[DEAD] eMachines T6216 / A64 3200+ S939, 512 MB, 160GB, PCI x16, Refurb NOW $380

[jyeung]

TigerDirect has the T6216 for $349.97. Not a bad deal at all...just bought one myself. They have 44 at the Markham location, none in Etobicoke I believe.

Specs are listed here:
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=2108747&sku=E400-T6216&CMP=ILC-FPM08

There's also a cheaper one in store ($30 or something less), but has only 256MB RAM and 80GB HDD.

EDIT: Price Dropped to $279!!! SMOKING HOT!
EDIT: Price raised to $380. Good deal though...
EDIT: Price changed back!!
EDIT: $380 again.

[Derek]

Pretty good if you ask me:

http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=CAqD7bLWUPI&offerid=102400.2108747&type=2&subid=0

http://images.tigerdirect.ca/SKUimages/medium/E400-T6216-main.jpg

[Deal_Princess]

is this good? ppl? I need to get a new PC this week any other deals out there thanks :)

[sf1]

refurbished emachine
hmm..

[mahjongmaniac]

price seems good even for a refurb...


but s/h is a whoppin ~$45 over here in the west... kinda kills the deal





com'on TD, where's the FREE s/h like u had last summer? :?:

[smithfan]

I went to the etobicoke location looking for one yesterday. I can confirm they dont have any.

[felix]

Isn't this a repost?

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=304936

[fallleave]

I bought one about 6 month ago, still so far so good.
compare the price it's not that bad.

[jyeung]

They have about 20 left in stock now @ Markham. Bought another one today as a secondary computer ;)

[zyad]

Does anybody know if these systems include Windows XP???

[zyad]

Sorry, please ignore my question. I looked further at the specs and it seems taht they do include the OS.

[wing0]

I noticed this has MS-7207 mobo which is the K8NGM2 motherboard from MSI which is praised for option in overclocking....hmm....any good chance from past buyers?

Thanks.

[stoneblade]

pci X 16 is a PCI express right??

[Canadianpsycho]

Wish I lived closer to Markham. I don't particularly feel like paying 40 bucks for shipping.

[Derek]

pci X 16 is a PCI express right??

Yep.

[airodus]

very hot

at this price range, you usually get celeron/sempron, not athlon64. dvdrw is a nice upgrade as well. 512 ram instead of the usual 256mb. plus the integrated graphics are very good (as far as integrated solutions go) and there's room for expansion if needed.

i have several emachines in the office and they are rock solid. very reliable... and best of all QUIET.

[hello99]

Is there nothing in the etobicoke location?

[hiiibye]

As of June 30, the price for this machine is now $279, which makes for an excellent deal! (The cpu alone is $145)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2108747&Sku=E400-T6216

The home page will show the price at $349, but the info page will show $279.
I called Tigerdirect and the price is $279.

For those who had purchased this at $349, you can show them the receipt for a refund of the difference.

[FlintBlade]

I don't know, TD always has high priced shipping. But it seems like an ok deal, i mean if you were to price the parts out it would be like.

AMD s939 3200+ (completely dead socket) - $80
matx board - $60 (not referring to a emachines, just a better s939 board lol)
512mb ram - $30
case and 300w psu ( generic? ) - $30
keyboard/mouse/speakers- $20
160gb hdd - $60
dvd rw/ dual layer - $40

So its worth about $320ish. Id get it just for the legit copy of windows =D

[Canadianpsycho]

I don't know, TD always has high priced shipping. But it seems like an ok deal, i mean if you were to price the parts out it would be like.

AMD s754 3200+ (completely dead socket) - $90
matx board - $60
512mb ram - $30
case and 300w psu ( generic? ) - $30
keyboard/mouse/speakers- $40
160gb hdd - $60
dvd rw/ dual layer - $50

So its worth about $350ish. Id get it just for the legit copy of windows =D

Its 939, not 754. And good luck getting a 6100 motherboard for 60 bucks.

At 279, this is a smokin deal.

[TDTD]

Price is now showing up as $279.

[mahjongmaniac]

I don't know, TD always has high priced shipping. But it seems like an ok deal, i mean if you were to price the parts out it would be like.

AMD s754 3200+ (completely dead socket) - $90
matx board - $60
512mb ram - $30
case and 300w psu ( generic? ) - $30
keyboard/mouse/speakers- $40
160gb hdd - $60
dvd rw/ dual layer - $50

So its worth about $350ish. Id get it just for the legit copy of windows =D

i don't think the KB/M/spkers would cost $40... i think more like $20 or less

anyway, for a legit copy of windows, almost every PC deal at TD is a "good deal"... b/c buying a retail version costs $100+ alone... ;)

[Hobbesgsr]

Frick...

Price has now jumped to $380.97

[puff_daddy_58_99]

Frick...

Price has now jumped to $380.97

same here. smoking hot at 297, not as great at 380.

[BlueMax]

Missed it! ARRRGH!!!!

[mahjongmaniac]

same here. smoking hot at 297, not as great at 380.

um... actually they price dropped f/ that down to $279... so if u think $297 is smokin', u really missed out when it dropped even lower....

[audit13]

I'm going to hit the Markham store tomorrow to see if they have raised the price. I certainly hope not.

[wing0]

I'm going to hit the Markham store tomorrow to see if they have raised the price. I certainly hope not.

They dun have any...I checked....i think only one on display...if u really want that one.

[puff_daddy_58_99]

um... actually they price dropped f/ that down to $279... so if u think $297 is smokin', u really missed out when it dropped even lower....

guess I got the 9 and 7 reversed. anyways, point is that it isn't 279 online any more.

[Canadianpsycho]

Glad I ordered when I did. I figured it wouldn't last long.

[NG]

I think somebody broke TD.ca :p

http://images.tigerdirect.ca/rd/carl.gif
http://images.tigerdirect.ca/rd/tigerca.gif
http://images.tigerdirect.ca/rd/text.gif

[tjuzer]

Deal dead I see 380.

[audit13]

They dun have any...I checked....i think only one on display...if u really want that one.

Thanks for the info. I'm going to check it out. I'll take the demo if it's in good shape. As someone else said, the fact that it has an OS with the 3200 is pretty good.

[pei_boy]

WOOT!!!! Web price back to $279 + tx and shipping as of 7:45 MST.

Just ordered one... even with $41 shipping to Calgary this is a blockbuster deal!!!!

pei_boy

[Canadianpsycho]

Anyone looking for a decent sub $300 should really jump on this.

Still fairly upgradeable, and the 6100 is a good chipset. Still waiting for mine to arrive.

[audit13]

I didn't get a chance to get to the Markham warehouse. Anyone know if these have been re-stocked in the Etobicoke or Markham stores?

[hd2002]

lol, with another 512mb of ram, this computer will be vista ready:)

[w00t]

Anyone know the return policy?
Can I return?

[mahjongmaniac]

Anyone know the return policy?
Can I return?

sure u can return...

but if i'm not mistaken, u'll be dinged w/ restocking fees. :P (sb correct me if i'm wrong)

[sgmtl]

At 362 shipped, this seems pretty hot!

[HotDealsRock]

price back to $279

[Iron Chef Ajax]

Tempting - $361.68 delivered taxes in.

[tjuzer]

How good is performance? I buy anyway. :)

[spdztr]

Tempting - $361.68 delivered taxes in.

Still available. Ordered one.
Even with the shipping charge, it's a great deal.

[cannon_fodder]

I can't find any mention of what resolutions the integrated graphics chipset supports. I'm trying to compare it to our 5 year old PC that had a GeForce 2 Ti graphics card.

I can only guess that this performance is on par or maybe even better but when I can't even find what resolutions it supports I'm lost....

[Canadianpsycho]

I can't find any mention of what resolutions the integrated graphics chipset supports. I'm trying to compare it to our 5 year old PC that had a GeForce 2 Ti graphics card.

I can only guess that this performance is on par or maybe even better but when I can't even find what resolutions it supports I'm lost....

From Nvidia (http://www.nvidia.com/page/gpumobo_6100-430_features.html):


300 MHz RAMDAC
Blazing-fast RAMDAC supports display with high, ergonomic refresh rates up to and including 1920x1440@75Hz.
» more information

IQ and Performance of the 6100 will destroy the GF2 (the GF2 cards were notorious for horrible IQ, even in their prime). It will support everything except monitors that require Dual-Link cards.

Not to mention the available PCIe slot will let you upgrade to another card if necessary.

[smithfan]

Tiger direct store in etobicoke is like Staples. Anytime theres anything on sale that someone might want it OOS. I just called the TD in etobicoke and they still dont have any. Which doesnt surprise me as they didnt have any before the price went down.

[Headhunter]

As of now, it's back at $280 (and has made its way to the Deals page (http://www.redflagdeals.com/deals/main.php/weblog/comments/21880/)). It's a solid deal, be sure to use the RFD link (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=CAqD7bLWUPI&offerid=102400.2108747&type=2&subid=0)!

[Konowl]

Looks like the hard drive is EIDE. Doesn't this motherboard support SATA? What brand is the hard drive if anyone knows.

[Canadianpsycho]

Wow, talk about fast shipping... Ordered 30th at 7 pm, delivered 10:30 am today.

Looks like the hard drive is EIDE. Doesn't this motherboard support SATA? What brand is the hard drive if anyone knows.

I'll check it out tonight while I'm reformatting and setting it up.

[cannon_fodder]

Since the onboard video apparently eats up 512MB RAM, would it be prudent to buy at least an additional 512MB RAM? Is it better to get an extra 1MB now? I'm thinking about my old PC that RAM was expensive when it was new, then it gradually got cheaper, then it got more expensive as newer RAM became more popular.

Apparently this supports DDR 400MHz RAM and I have no clue where we are in the cost cycle. I also don't know if it can support 2 sticks of 256 and 2 sticks of 512 in the 4 slots (could be a problem supporting DDR?).

[Canadianpsycho]

Since the onboard video apparently eats up 512MB RAM, would it be prudent to buy at least an additional 512MB RAM? Is it better to get an extra 1MB now? I'm thinking about my old PC that RAM was expensive when it was new, then it gradually got cheaper, then it got more expensive as newer RAM became more popular.

Apparently this supports DDR 400MHz RAM and I have no clue where we are in the cost cycle. I also don't know if it can support 2 sticks of 256 and 2 sticks of 512 in the 4 slots (could be a problem supporting DDR?).

You can set up the amount of RAM for video in the BIOS. It won't be the quickest machine, but you can probably get away with 128MB max. You won't really be gaming on this PC anyways without a new card.

I'd recommend a gig though. I plan on putting 2x512 in the PC when I can. I'm not intimate with the 6100, but the memory controllers on A64s don't support 4 dimm at 1T timing. You can get away with 4 dimms, but you'l have to run slightly slower memory timings. Also, I'm not sure if this chip/board will default to DDR333 if you put 4 dimms in it. maybe someone more savy can comment on it. I do know the early A64s couldn't run 4 dimms at DDR400. I think they've changed that though.

[realize]

Since the onboard video apparently eats up 512MB RAM, would it be prudent to buy at least an additional 512MB RAM? Is it better to get an extra 1MB now? I'm thinking about my old PC that RAM was expensive when it was new, then it gradually got cheaper, then it got more expensive as newer RAM became more popular.

Apparently this supports DDR 400MHz RAM and I have no clue where we are in the cost cycle. I also don't know if it can support 2 sticks of 256 and 2 sticks of 512 in the 4 slots (could be a problem supporting DDR?).

-ddr ram cost about 45 for 512 and 99 for 1gig
-if the board has 4 ddr slots then it will support the config u just asked boards nowadays are pretty forgiving
-problem supporting ddr? no its not a problem cause the board supports ddr ram

[yuprules]

Wow, talk about fast shipping... Ordered 30th at 7 pm, delivered 10:30 am today.



I'll check it out tonight while I'm reformatting and setting it up.

So any luck? Are there any SATA ports?

[realize]

So any luck? Are there any SATA ports?


http://images.tigerdirect.ca/SkuImages/gallery/large/E400-T6216-j.JPG

from the pic looks like there is 2 sata slots(orange/gold color slots)

[yuprules]

http://images.tigerdirect.ca/SkuImages/gallery/large/E400-T6216-j.JPG

from the pic looks like there is 2 sata slots(orange/gold color slots)

could be could be...if only the people who got the computer would come back into this board to let us know.

One thing to burst this theory, the power supply does not have the power plug for SATA hard drives, it has the old "white plugs".

[preelude]

what kinda of mobo does it have?

and is there any bios options for overclocking?

[Canadianpsycho]

So any luck? Are there any SATA ports?

Tonight usually means a little later then 12 pm, I'm still at work. :razz:

I'll post sometime after the World Cup semifinal today.

could be could be...if only the people who got the computer would come back into this board to let us know.

One thing to burst this theory, the power supply does not have the power plug for SATA hard drives, it has the old "white plugs".

Those are definitely SATA headers in that picture. You can buy the 4-pin molex to SATA power adapters, and some boards still ship with them. I'm pretty sure I have a couple lying around. Of course that doesn't help anyone that doesn't have spare cables lying around ;)

As long as the case doesn't have some lame tamperproof sticker for warranty purposes I'll open it up. Otherwise I'll just get info from the BIOS and Device Manager. I'd like to make sure it doesn't spontaneously combust in the first 90 days.

EDIT: FYI, if you read up on the 6100 chipset, it natively supports 2-4 SATA devices depending on the southbridge. Seeing as though mobo manufacturers have to follow the reference desgins, you'll have at least two SATA headers.

[rambokid]

Also, I'm not sure if this chip/board will default to DDR333 if you put 4 dimms in it. I also want to know :confused:

[Canadianpsycho]

what kinda of mobo does it have?

and is there any bios options for overclocking?

I'll also update this tonight. That 3200+ won't be running stock if I can help it. Even if its the wife's PC :cheesygri

[Canadianpsycho]

I also want to know :confused:

If the board is indeed a variant of the MSI K8NGM series I'd wager it defaults to DDR333 when 4 dimms are used. Again, I'll try to update tonight. I don't have 2 extra dimms handy atm though.

With the prices of RAM the way they are, its pretty easy to swap out the 2x256 for 2x512. Use the 2x256 in a secondary machine...

[smithfan]

what kinda of mobo does it have?

and is there any bios options for overclocking?


http://www.emachineupgraders.info/

And for the real lazy ones, the MB in the system is a MSI 7207

http://www.emachineupgraders.info/dir1/motherboards/socket939/msi7207.shtml

[hd2002]

http://www.emachineupgraders.info/

And for the real lazy ones, the MB in the system is a MSI 7207

http://www.emachineupgraders.info/dir1/motherboards/socket939/msi7207.shtml

more specifically, it's the MSI K8NGM2-L. the lowest model within 7207 series, without dvi port and giglan and have only 2 sata ports...imagine if only emachine was willing to spend another 20 bucks for a better mobo..

[w00t]

Can anyone confirm that they don't have any in stock in the MArkham store?
don't want to pay $37 in shipping for no reason.

[smithfan]

Can anyone confirm that they don't have any in stock in the MArkham store?
don't want to pay $37 in shipping for no reason.


mmmmmmmm why not call them to find out?

[ditto]

i just called...they were sold out.

[yuprules]

Even after $38 shipping this is still a burning hot deal!

[mrken]

Ahhh! I know I can wait until the end of August... but this is sooo tempting!

Can I build a computer with a similar configuration (without Windows, I am planning to run Linux on it) for the same or a lower price in late-August?

[yuprules]

Ahhh! I know I can wait until the end of August... but this is sooo tempting!

Can I build a computer with a similar configuration (without Windows, I am planning to run Linux on it) for the same or a lower price in late-August?

I doubt this computer will DROP MORE by August, it's pretty much "AS LOW AS IT CAN GO" in price.

Buy now or forever hold you your peace dude.

[tjuzer]

On website show no sata?

[Canadianpsycho]

OK, just to update...

Theres a huge silver "QA" sticker on the side panel. I'm not taking it off until I can find out if it will void my warranty. My TD receipt states I have to deal with emachines directly, so I guess I'll be calling them.

According to the BIOS:

-2 SATA ports
-HDD model # is ST3160212A, so a Seagate 7200.9 model.
-DVDRW is a "TSST corp TS-H552D", which is apparently a Samsung, according to Google.

There is no OCing options in the BIOS. Not sure if I need a key sequence or I need to flash the BIOS. Not going to fiddle with that for a while yet.

[yuprules]

OK, just to update...

Theres a huge silver "QA" sticker on the side panel. I'm not taking it off until I can find out if it will void my warranty. My TD receipt states I have to deal with emachines directly, so I guess I'll be calling them.

According to the BIOS:

-2 SATA ports
-HDD model # is ST3160212A, so a Seagate 7200.9 model.
-DVDRW is a "TSST corp TS-H552D", which is apparently a Samsung, according to Google.

There is no OCing options in the BIOS. Not sure if I need a key sequence or I need to flash the BIOS. Not going to fiddle with that for a while yet.

"Huge QA Sticker": That's what HOT HAIR DRYER on the sticker for 15 minutes is for ;)

Thanks for the update on the SATA ports, but looks like we'll need power adapters since the power plugs are for old EIDE drives.

[mec9t8]

Sorry I am not good at computer (esp on AMDs), if I put 1 GB ram in total, add a optical out 5.1 sound card, and add an ATI video card at a later time, would this machine be a good HTPC? (of course would add something to lower the noise level) (planning to connect TV thru VGA port, main use is watch DVDs and video files, slightly use on recording TV)

Thanks in advance.

[rambokid]

Theres a huge silver "QA" sticker on the side panel.WTH, how to make sure pcix slot is functional without void warranty :mad:
Not to mention upgrading within the first 3 months :evil:
Any tricks to remove sticker and reapply ... :confused:

[Canadianpsycho]

WTH, how to make sure pcix slot is functional without void warranty :mad:
Not to mention upgrading within the first 3 months :evil:
Any tricks to remove sticker and reapply ... :confused:

Well,

I called emachines tech support. All I can say is they're pretty damn fast. I was on hold for 20 and 30 seconds respectively.

My first call, the guy said I can remove the QA sticker no problem. He then insisted on telling me what RAM is compatible - the power cut out in the house, so I never got to finish my call.

My second call, the next guy said the same thing - I can remove the QA sticker without worry.

[pei_boy]

When you boot it up, does it have an AMI or AWARD bios? You usually have to replace the bios chip on these to reflash to the latest MSI bios, to enable the oc features. I did that on my last eMachine, and it lost all of the fan quieting tech. that it had... was really noisy after that ;-( replaced the original bios chip back and all was well ;-)

[justakid]

Ordered 2 for myself. Great deal. You can always overclock via Clockgen.

[mahjongmaniac]

I doubt this computer will DROP MORE by August, it's pretty much "AS LOW AS IT CAN GO" in price.

Buy now or forever hold you your peace dude.

yeah, i'd doubt the price for this PC will drop any more by Aug., but perhaps there might be a similar/better deal on another PC f/ TD.ca... :)

[Canadianpsycho]

When you boot it up, does it have an AMI or AWARD bios? You usually have to replace the bios chip on these to reflash to the latest MSI bios, to enable the oc features. I did that on my last eMachine, and it lost all of the fan quieting tech. that it had... was really noisy after that ;-( replaced the original bios chip back and all was well ;-)

Really? Maybe I'll forget it then. I think it was AMI, can't recall.

Opened up the case: MSI-7207 mobo, generic 300W PSU (no SATA power connectors), 2 SATA headers on the mobo.

Its pretty scary how quiet this PC is. Time to wipe the HDD and get rid of all that preinstalled garbage.

[rangermcfadden]

Really? Maybe I'll forget it then. I think it was AMI, can't recall.

Opened up the case: MSI-7207 mobo, generic 300W PSU (no SATA power connectors), 2 SATA headers on the mobo.

Its pretty scary how quiet this PC is. Time to wipe the HDD and get rid of all that preinstalled garbage.

Do you have to use your own copy of Windows to do that?

Does it come with recovery CDs? Can you burn some?

[nounou23]

I currently have a Dimension 3000 that I bought about 2 years ago. It's a Penitum 4 3.0Ghz (socket 478), no PCI express or AGP....

How does my CPU compare to this AMD CPU? Would it be a good deal to upgrade... with the pci express and all?

[Canadianpsycho]

Do you have to use your own copy of Windows to do that?

Does it come with recovery CDs? Can you burn some?

I'm installing XP MCE - I'm using a spare copy that I have. The PC comes with a recovery DVD.

[neo1973]

more specifically, it's the MSI K8NGM2-L. the lowest model within 7207 series, without dvi port and giglan and have only 2 sata ports...imagine if only emachine was willing to spend another 20 bucks for a better mobo..
Ditto!

If it has 4 SATA and DVI ports I would definitely get one. But without dvi port and only 2 sata ports I will pass.

[ditto]

I currently have a Dimension 3000 that I bought about 2 years ago. It's a Penitum 4 3.0Ghz (socket 478), no PCI express or AGP....

How does my CPU compare to this AMD CPU? Would it be a good deal to upgrade... with the pci express and all?
try this (http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html)

[Kannna]

Any comments on this deal ($620)?
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=2204123&sku=SYXS-DB-989244&CMP=ILC-FPM08

Operating Systems Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional Edition SP2

Platform Learn More PC

Form Factor Microtower
MATX

PCI Slots (Total) Learn More 3

AGP Slots (Total) Learn More 1

Expansion Slots 5

Processor Brand Intel®

Processor Class Pentium® D

Processor Number 805

Processor Speed 2.66GHz

Additional Technologies Dual-Core Technology
Intel® Extended Memory 64 Technology

Memory Type DDR

Total Memory 1.0GB

Interface ATA/100

Capacity 250GB

Optical Drive Type DVD+RW Dual Layer

Audio Description Integrated Audio

Graphics Description Integrated Graphics

Video Memory up to 64MB Shared Memory

Communications Description Integrated LAN Support

Data Transfer Rate 10Mbps
100Mbps

Power 300 Watt

Mouse Type Wheel

Buttons 3

Keyboard Type Standard

Height 14.5"

Width 7.25"

Depth 17.5"

[rambokid]

There is no OCing options in the BIOS. Not sure if I need a key sequence or I need to flash the BIOS. Not going to fiddle with that for a while yet.Canadianpsycho, any luck with OCing? I may order one more if there are some OC features :razz:

From http://www.emachineupgraders.info/dir1/motherboards/socket939/msi7207_downloads.shtml, the lastest bios (06/16/06) has these changes.
- Add safety recover function to revert BIOS into default setting when system unable to boot due to overclocking. To enable the function please press the reset button or power button 3 times.
- Update SATA Raid ROM version.

Flash the bios and let us know ;)

[gateway]

can i pick this up at their store in markham?

[felix]

can i pick this up at their store in markham?
As mentioned already it's out of stock in store.

[nounou23]

What kind of AMD CPU is there in that PC? I'm trying to do a tom's hardware benchmark but not sure what to choose.

Thanks,

[Canadianpsycho]

Any comments on this deal ($620)?
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=2204123&sku=SYXS-DB-989244&CMP=ILC-FPM08


Doesn't seem worth it considering its an extra 340 bucks.

Canadianpsycho, any luck with OCing? I may order one more if there are some OC features :razz:

From http://www.emachineupgraders.info/dir1/motherboards/socket939/msi7207_downloads.shtml, the lastest bios (06/16/06) has these changes.
- Add safety recover function to revert BIOS into default setting when system unable to boot due to overclocking. To enable the function please press the reset button or power button 3 times.
- Update SATA Raid ROM version.

Flash the bios and let us know ;)

Not sure I want to lose the fan settings as previously suggested. This PC is so nice and quiet.

What kind of AMD CPU is there in that PC? I'm trying to do a tom's hardware benchmark but not sure what to choose.

Thanks,

Are you serious? The cpu is in the thread title and item description over @ TD. A64 939 3200+. After running CPU-Z, its a Venice core if that's what you mean.

[nounou23]

Are you serious? The cpu is in the thread title and item description over @ TD. A64 939 3200+. After running CPU-Z, its a Venice core if that's what you mean.


That's what I wanted to know. I knew it was a A64 939 3200+. Now I know it's a Venice core. I should have phrased my question better. hehe sorry about that. BTW thanks for the info :)

[rambokid]

Not sure I want to lose the fan settings as previously suggested. This PC is so nice and quiet.The link is emachine site, the bios is from emachine ;) . The same file and description also on msi China site. It should not remove features.

[Canadianpsycho]

The link is emachine site, the bios is from emachine ;) . The same file and description also on msi China site. It should not remove features.


Actually, that link is from an unofficial emachines upgrade forum, not the official site. The BIOS available is the latest MSI BIOS, also available at MSI's website: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=702&kind=1

This does not match the BIOS of the Emachine, as it is proprietary.

There is a BIOS on the Emachines website: http://www.emachines.com/support/product_support.html?cat=Desktops&subcat=T-Series&model=T6216

I need to do more research... If I can flash back and forth, I'll try the MSI BIOS. If I cannot, I'm not losing the noise level of this PC (if pei_boy's experiences also apply to this model). It is infact an AMI BIOS, so I don't think I need to swap out the chip as MSI's BIOS is for AMI also.

EDIT: If I had to guess, I'd say this PC has the AMD Cool n' Quiet enabled by default. If I decided to overclock using another BIOS I'd have to turn off CnQ anyways, making the system louder... So I may not even attempt it. ALthough it would be nice to be able to tweak RAM timings.

[pei_boy]

I downloaded the bios update posted on the eMachines website and extracted it. The flash program they supply with the bios update is an AMI one, same as the MSI one, so there may be good luck in flashing it as long as they havent disabled or locked the flash.

[yuprules]

I downloaded the bios update posted on the eMachines website and extracted it. The flash program they supply with the bios update is an AMI one, same as the MSI one, so there may be good luck in flashing it as long as they havent disabled or locked the flash.

Did you try it yet? :) :) :)

[michael1996]

It is still 280 for me.

[pei_boy]

Nope, havent received it yet. Tommorow I think ;-)

[condorguy]

It's back to $280...anyone know if they have any left at Markham location?

[Jeepthing]

Well ... I guess I'm the only one who PM it against BB's T6216 (http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS10073194), which is listed $549.99

I'm still awaiting for answer from BB as they had to submit request to TD (price difference is more then 20%).

Anyway ... also I had to confirm model number with Gateway customer support:

04 Jul 2006 04:49:43 PM Deb_EMC0169 says: The model is T6216, correct?
04 Jul 2006 04:49:50 PM Alex xxxxxxxx says: yes it is
04 Jul 2006 04:50:08 PM Alex xxxxxxxx says: one with code T6216 RA and another with RB
04 Jul 2006 04:50:29 PM Deb_EMC0169 says: Please give me a moment to check on your the systems specifications.
04 Jul 2006 04:50:37 PM Alex xxxxxxxx : ok .. thanks
04 Jul 2006 04:53:26 PM Deb_EMC0169 says: Thanks for holding.
04 Jul 2006 04:53:34 PM Alex xxxxxxxx says: no problem
04 Jul 2006 04:54:23 PM Alex xxxxxxxx says: i just need to make sure that both models are the same or not the same
04 Jul 2006 04:54:49 PM Deb_EMC0169 says: Based on our database, T6216RA and T6216RB are the same.

I will keep you posted (I should have an answer from BB tomorrow).

[Jeepthing]

I forgot to mention ... total amount comes to amazing $303.38 after PM, S&H and taxes ;)

[smithfan]

It's back to $280...anyone know if they have any left at Markham location?

How many times is this question going to get asked in this thread?
At last check NO they dont. If you want to know for sure, call them.

[cannon_fodder]

Best of luck with the PM. Wish I knew that BB also carried it. Just saw that mine shipped from TD and it clearly states "NO returns" so I'll have to live with it. I wonder if BB will factor in the shipping costs from TD when they do the PM especially considering both are online deals (since TD doesn't have any in stock at B&M).

Interestingly, BB mentions all kinds of included software such as MS Works. Has anyone who received their TD unit noticed that this is included? I'm hoping this is enough for the kids to do their homework.

[yuprules]

I forgot to mention ... total amount comes to amazing $303.38 after PM, S&H and taxes ;)

Bestbuy's is REFURB also? Then you should get the PM!

[fhofho]

Interestingly, BB mentions all kinds of included software such as MS Works. Has anyone who received their TD unit noticed that this is included? I'm hoping this is enough for the kids to do their homework.

Yes, this machine from TD comes with many pre-installed ready to use softwares including MS Works, NERO burn, MS Office Basic (NO ACTIVATION KEY) and more...

[Canadianpsycho]

Bestbuy's is REFURB also? Then you should get the PM!

I wouldn't be surprised if they:

-Check into TD's shipping rates
-Refuse based on model #s just to deny the PM
-nitpick something in the description somewhere to deny the PM.

But by all means, good luck with that. Even sweeter price.

[sgmtl]

crap, mine shipped too!

I would have called best buy SO fast.

[VenomZeus]

can you do this in store or is it only for the best buy website?

[Jeepthing]

Interestingly, BB mentions all kinds of included software such as MS Works. Has anyone who received their TD unit noticed that this is included? I'm hoping this is enough for the kids to do their homework.

All of them come with the same crappy software ...
If you don't want to buy MS Office try The OpenCD 3.1 (http://www.theopencd.org/download) or .iso version from mirror (ftp://theopencd.ftp.fu-berlin.de/releases/3.1/TheOpenCD-3.1.iso)

Productivity:
AbiWord 2.4.1
MoinMoin 1.3.4
OpenOffice.org 2.0
PDFCreator 0.8.1 RC9

Design:
Blender 2.37a
GIMP 2.2.9
NVU 1.0

Internet/Networking:
Firefox 1.5 RC2
Thunderbird 1.5 RC1
Gaim 1.5

Multimedia:
Audacity 1.2.3
Celestia 1.3.2
Really Slick Screensavers

Utilities:
7-zip 4.23
Notepad2 1.0.12

Games:
Sokoban 1.253
Battle for Wesnoth 1.0.1

[Jeepthing]

can you do this in store or is it only for the best buy website?

Web-deal only (read description). BUT because it is a WEB-DEAL, BB can't take S&H amounts in consideration.

Talking of the model - I confirmed with Gateway (eMachines) customer support that these two are the same model (even UPC code is the SAME!!!)

[Lukus]

Is TigerDirect an authorized eMachine reseller? Reason I ask is that BB will use that as an excuse to refuse the PM if TD isn't.

[smithfan]

For what its worth I had sent best buy an email late last night asking if they would price match. I dont really want to buy the system and then have to take it back if they wont. I had called best buy 800 number but they said they wouldnt even look into it unless I placed an order first. They said to send an email. I already know, like other people have said, that they will nit pick it to death and find some way to get out of it.

[Jeepthing]

I had called best buy 800 number but they said they wouldnt even look into it unless I placed an order first. They said to send an email. I already know, like other people have said, that they will nit pick it to death and find some way to get out of it.

Yes - that's true ... you have to place an order.
But you don't have to provide all the correct information (i.e. billing address, phone number) until PM goes through, do you ...? ;)

[smithfan]

Yes - that's true ... you have to place an order.
But you don't have to provide all the correct information (i.e. billing address, phone number) until PM goes through, do you ...? ;)


Honestly though, its just not worth it to me. If I miss out on this deal another one will come along where I dont have to chase my tail around to get the deal.
I dont want to have to worry that it gets lost or damaged in shipping. Plus I would have to go pick it up at the depot because no one will be home when they try to deliver it, and it would be all for nothing if I know im not keeping it.

[Jeepthing]

Is TigerDirect an authorized eMachine reseller? Reason I ask is that BB will use that as an excuse to refuse the PM if TD isn't.

BB already sent a request to confirm a price to TD (because the price difference is more then 20%). Once the sale price is confirmed, BB promised to PM it.
The latest I suppose to hear back from BB by this time tomorrow.

If you plan on doing PM with BB too, here is what you need:
1. Place an order with BB (keep order open untill PM goes through - your credit card information needs to be verified; BB will send you a message asking to call them back if information is incorrect).
2. Call BB customer support with a PM request after order is placed. They can't PM right away because price difference is more then 20% - they will submit request to head office. Head office will submit request to TD to verify selling price. The whole process may take up to 48 hours.
3. Stop by BB retail store and ask them to verify stock with TD and ask them to put it in writing (i.e. bring screenprint with your BB order number and TD sale price - they will ut a note on it).
4. I have already confirmed model with Gateway - I'm not sure if you need to do the same.
5. Enjoy your new desktop if PM goes through or cancel your order if it doesn't

[ditto]

I called BB yesterday for PMing after placing my order. They denied PM becasue the webpage on TD says "available while supplies last", BB said that means "limited time offer" then they wont PM, otherwise, no problem, they agreed on that they are identical.

[smithfan]

I called BB yesterday for PMing after placing my order. They denied PM becasue the webpage on TD says "available while supplies last", BB said that means "limited time offer" then they wont PM, otherwise, no problem, they agreed on that they are identical.


That makes me laugh because what sale ISNT a limited time offer? LOL
Price matching is such BS

[mahjongmaniac]

I called BB yesterday for PMing after placing my order. They denied PM becasue the webpage on TD says "available while supplies last", BB said that means "limited time offer" then they wont PM, otherwise, no problem, they agreed on that they are identical.

umm... since when did "avail. while supplies last" EQUAL TO "LTO"... ?

u can't just say "while supplies last" means it's a "LTO"... altho that may be implied, they can't just ASSUME that ...


LTO is not a valid reason to deny the PM request as i see it.

and while qty's last - that means there's still stock avail....



BB is so full of it... (same goes for FS)

[mahjongmaniac]

I wouldn't be surprised if they:

-Check into TD's shipping rates
-Refuse based on model #s just to deny the PM
-nitpick something in the description somewhere to deny the PM.

But by all means, good luck with that. Even sweeter price.

about the s/h rates, that wouldn't be the biggest prblm .
they'll add that onto the subtotal, and then do the PM b/t the "new subtotal" w/ s/h charge, and their own price...

however, the PMing might be a lil awkward b/c now BB has s/h fees too.


as for the model #'s, well if they're actually the same and confirmed by emachines customer support, i don't believe they can outright deny it when there's proof that it's the same.


i'm more worried about ur 3rd one... nitpicking ;)

[neo1973]

That makes me laugh because what sale ISNT a limited time offer? LOL
Price matching is such BS
Yeah a lot of people have complained bout stoople's PM policy. But from my past experiences, BB and FS are far worse. Man I miss the old good days. :)

[Jeepthing]

umm... since when did "avail. while supplies last" EQUAL TO "LTO"... ?

u can't just say "while supplies last" means it's a "LTO"... altho that may be implied, they can't just ASSUME that ...


LTO is not a valid reason to deny the PM request as i see it.

and while qty's last - that means there's still stock avail....



BB is so full of it... (same goes for FS)

BB's policy states: Either prior to purchase or within 30 days of purchase (14 days for computers, monitors, printers, notebook computers, camcorders, digital cameras, radar detectors, portable DVD players, and air conditioners) should you find a lower advertised price, including those on the internet from an authorized Canadian Dealer, we will match that price and beat it by giving you an additional 10% of the difference.

14 days BEFORE or AFTER purchase - even if it was on sale for 10 minutes while there was any stock - BB has to PM (not my words - thier policy LOL)

[w00t]

did anyone get a tracking # from tigerdirect?

[Canadianpsycho]

did anyone get a tracking # from tigerdirect?

I was sent an order update email with a UPS tracking number a day after placing my order and having it confirmed.

You can also log in on the TD website and check your order there if you have the order number handy. It should include a tracking number.

[FlintBlade]

It is a good deal. But when I listed out the items. I wasn't referring to an actual emachines made motherboard. Obviously overpriced and won't be as good as say a asus or msi board of better quality and most likely cheaper to.

For $279, it is a good price. If they raise it anymore (which they did) it doesn't seem like a good deal anymore. The legit version of windows is the only thing i was interested in. Was going to purchase it for a freind, but I don't know now.

[yuprules]

It is a good deal. But when I listed out the items. I wasn't referring to an actual emachines made motherboard. Obviously overpriced and won't be as good as say a asus or msi board of better quality and most likely cheaper to.

For $279, it is a good price. If they raise it anymore (which they did) it doesn't seem like a good deal anymore. The legit version of windows is the only thing i was interested in. Was going to purchase it for a freind, but I don't know now.

?!?!?!?! the motherboard on this emachine *IS* MSI. It is not a no name or emachine motherboard.

[NorthernPaladin]

I called Markham this morning (about 11:00 am ) and they said they had 19 in stock available for pickup) at the 279.97 price
I drove up to get one but when I got there they had some single systems on clearance....
You know what happended next... The upgrade bug got me and I got:

Gateway 830GM
Intel P4 630 3.0 Ghz (HT)
1 GB Ram (2 x 512 )
200 GB Sata HD (Barracuda 7200.7 SATA - ST3200822AS)
Lite-On DVD-ROM (167T)
Lite-On DVD+-RW Dual Layer (1633S)
4 SATA connectors on MB

Anyway
Got this system:
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1576821

For 374.96 Including a 1 Year replacement warranty

I figured the better CPU, extra 512 MB Ram, extra DVD ROM drive, Media Center 2005 and 1 year warranty was worth the extra $95 bucks
(I got the last one of this model)

Anyway, they had some other "one off" deals that looked decent...
Well hope all those who wanted this original deal can get it local without shipping now.

Hurry, I expect they won't last long!

Northern Paladin

Edit:
This was my first time at TigerDirect and I was impressed with the facility. I was expecting a "Markham Gheto wareshouse store", but instead found a large clean high tech store with lots of goodies. Pleasantly supprised (not like the little shops I frequent in the Spadina / College Comptuer Ghetos) :D

[cy]

I called Markham this morning (about 11:00 am ) and they said they had 19 in stock available for pickup) at the 279.97 price
I drove up to get one but when I got there they had some single systems on clearance....
You know what happended next... The upgrade bug got me and I got:

Gateway 830GM
Intel P4 630 3.0 Ghz (HT)
1 GB Ram (2 x 512 )
200 GB Sata HD (Barracuda 7200.7 SATA - ST3200822AS)
Lite-On DVD-ROM (167T)
Lite-On DVD+-RW Dual Layer (1633S)

Anyway
Got this system:
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1576821

For 374.96 Including a 1 Year replacement warranty

I figured the better CPU, extra 512 MB Ram, extra DVD ROM drive, Media Center 2005 and 1 year warranty was worth the extra $95 bucks
(I got the last one of this model)

Anyway, they had some other "one off" deals that looked decent...
Well hope all those who wanted this original deal can get it local without shipping now.

Hurry, I expect they won't last long!

Northern Paladin


wow, the website showing $635, it's $375 in store??

[wing0]

I called Markham this morning (about 11:00 am ) and they said they had 19 in stock available for pickup) at the 279.97 price
I drove up to get one but when I got there they had some single systems on clearance....
You know what happended next... The upgrade bug got me and I got:

Gateway 830GM
Intel P4 630 3.0 Ghz (HT)
1 GB Ram (2 x 512 )
200 GB Sata HD (Barracuda 7200.7 SATA - ST3200822AS)
Lite-On DVD-ROM (167T)
Lite-On DVD+-RW Dual Layer (1633S)

Anyway
Got this system:
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1576821

For 374.96 Including a 1 Year replacement warranty

I figured the better CPU, extra 512 MB Ram, extra DVD ROM drive, Media Center 2005 and 1 year warranty was worth the extra $95 bucks
(I got the last one of this model)

Anyway, they had some other "one off" deals that looked decent...
Well hope all those who wanted this original deal can get it local without shipping now.

Hurry, I expect they won't last long!

Northern Paladin

So they have 19 in stock now?

The graphic card on T6216 is much better than the system you got.

[NorthernPaladin]

wow, the website showing $635, it's $375 in store??

Yes, paid 374.96 + Tax and includes 1 year replacement warranty
They were a few different systems beside the cash that were "reduced" and this was one of them (no more in the pile I saw of this particular model) but there were a few others that also seemed like decent deals...




So they have 19 in stock now?
The graphic card on T6216 is much better than the system you got.

They told me they had 19 in stock when I phone them about 11:00 am this morning. I went around 1:00 pm and actually had a system (don't know how many they had at that time) but changed my mind when I saw the clearance items by the checkout.

True, that Intel graphics is crap, but I am building a HTPC (and maybe a little gaming rig) so I will be purchasing a better video card with DVI out.

[kmchow]

Does anyone know which Athon 64 3200 core the CPU is? I know there's the Clawhammer and Winchester cores? Just curious. Thanks ahead!

[wing0]

Does anyone know which Athon 64 3200 core the CPU is? I know there's the Clawhammer and Winchester cores? Just curious. Thanks ahead!

Somebody mentioned venice....it's newer than winchester and clawhammer i think or was clawhammer/venice the same thing....hahaa.....i hardly can remember every processor name from Intel and AMD side....

[realize]

Somebody mentioned venice....it's newer than winchester and clawhammer i think or was clawhammer/venice the same thing....hahaa.....i hardly can remember every processor name from Intel and AMD side....

the athlon 64's come in 2 flavours the fx and non fx also it comes in the socket 754 and socket 939 the socket 754 is called clawhammer and the 939 is venice (no mentioned cause this emachine will not have for sure is the AM2's which is Orlean core)
hope that helps
;)

[cy]

Gonna head over in a bit to see what i can find..

Hopefully i can find one of those $375 deal so that i can upgrade my Celeron D 3.2ghz :P

[madman604]

ordered, damn you guys..... :twisted:
i priced it out and figured its worth about $587 (tax in) - $363 = $224 potential savings over building one locally.

+'s
PCIE
Nforce mobo
genuine win XP home
A64 3200+ cpu.
Seagate HDD

-'s
shared ram with OB video
not enuf ram, only 512mb

still good for scavaging parts outta ;) keep the cpu, sell off the rest

[wing0]

the athlon 64's come in 2 flavours the fx and non fx also it comes in the socket 754 and socket 939 the socket 754 is called clawhammer and the 939 is venice (no mentioned cause this emachine will not have for sure is the AM2's which is Orlean core)
hope that helps
;)

Yup, sockets and FX/nonFX i know....it's the revision that i dun exactly remember.
So i was partially right about venice and clawhammer being same E6 or something...

[madman604]

Anyone know the return policy?
Can I return?

NOT returnable.

[Canadianpsycho]

the athlon 64's come in 2 flavours the fx and non fx also it comes in the socket 754 and socket 939 the socket 754 is called clawhammer and the 939 is venice (no mentioned cause this emachine will not have for sure is the AM2's which is Orlean core)
hope that helps
;)

Clawhammer was 754, yes. They also made a Newcastle and Venice for 754. They had 3 different cores for 939 also.

My T6216 is a Venice.

[audit13]

Just got one from the Markham store. Can't wait to use it for parts.

[kmchow]

ordered, damn you guys..... :twisted:
i priced it out and figured its worth about $587 (tax in) - $363 = $224 potential savings over building one locally.

+'s
PCIE
Nforce mobo
genuine win XP home
A64 3200+ cpu.
Seagate HDD

-'s
shared ram with OB video
not enuf ram, only 512mb

still good for scavaging parts outta ;) keep the cpu, sell off the rest
Best Buy online is selling this Emachine for $550. It's too bad they won't price match!. The pricematch would be $279+$42 shipping=$321.

So 100% PM would be 550-321=229x 10%=$23 savings make it 321-23=$298!! plus taxes of course!!

[audit13]

I've given up trying to pm unless I'm in the mood for a heated discussion with a manager. :lol:

[condorguy]

Just ordered one, thanks OP!

Went to the Markham store and could not find any so had to order through web site and pay for shipping :mad:

[cy]

Markham system showing 3 pieces in stock. The guy couldn't find it, talked to another guy and i overheard the other guy saying "just tell them it's defective, why waste time?" ....


I was speechless.

Left the store.

[smithfan]

Markham system showing 3 pieces in stock. The guy couldn't find it, talked to another guy and i overheard the other guy saying "just tell them it's defective, why waste time?" ....


I was speechless.

Left the store.


And thats why Im not a big fan of Tiger Direct. Between the non stop mail in rebates and the "shady" at best, dealings ive had with them.
4 Months ago I got a mem card from the etobicok store. It was 80 bucks on the web. I went to the store they wanted 120 for it. I said to him its 80 on the web page, the reply was "oh is it" so he took me to the cash, and walked away. They then scanned it in at 120 dollars. The sales guy came back to the cash, and said.. and Im not makeing this up "charge him the web price" Without even asking the guy at the cash rang it in at 80 bucks....... Now whats THAT all about?

[neo1973]

And thats why Im not a big fan of Tiger Direct. Between the non stop mail in rebates and the "shady" at best, dealings ive had with them.
4 Months ago I got a mem card from the etobicok store. It was 80 bucks on the web. I went to the store they wanted 120 for it. I said to him its 80 on the web page, the reply was "oh is it" so he took me to the cash, and walked away. They then scanned it in at 120 dollars. The sales guy came back to the cash, and said.. and Im not makeing this up "charge him the web price" Without even asking the guy at the cash rang it in at 80 bucks....... Now whats THAT all about?
That's not the worst. I've lost at least of 3 rebates worth of over $100 in total. I've followed all their instructions and sent everything on time. They kept telling me they've never received them. They told me to resubmit but when I resubmitted again, they told me I was late because they don't have my case on file. Every time you call they'll give you a different BS. It was dragged on for over a year and I've never got a single cent from them. :mad:

[audit13]

NOT returnable.

I'm not sure about online sales but I had a friend purchase one for me from the Markham store this afternoon. Attached to the receipt was the TD Return/Exchange policy which states: "We allow 30 days for returns or exchanges. Items returned 'opened' are subject to a 15% restocking fee. No returns or exchanges unless defective on clearance items, celluar phones, headphones, and earphones."

Hope this helps.

[yuprules]

NOT returnable.

You can return anything, but there is a 15% restocking fee.

There are no returns on clearance items UNLESS they are defective, but they will ship you a replacement and refund your shipping costs (same goes for defective regular stock).

[sgmtl]

so did anyone successfully pm bb?

[cannon_fodder]

Just heard that the shipment has arrived - ordered it Tuesday.

Thanks to jyeung the OP!

[mahjongmaniac]

BB's policy states: Either prior to purchase or within 30 days of purchase (14 days for computers, monitors, printers, notebook computers, camcorders, digital cameras, radar detectors, portable DVD players, and air conditioners) should you find a lower advertised price, including those on the internet from an authorized Canadian Dealer, we will match that price and beat it by giving you an additional 10% of the difference.

14 days BEFORE or AFTER purchase - even if it was on sale for 10 minutes while there was any stock - BB has to PM (not my words - thier policy LOL)

actually, their policy does state they don't PM LTO's, ltd qty items/while supplies last.... but how they really define it is actually up to them it seems... b/c their policy is VAGUE!

----------------

You can return anything, but there is a 15% restocking fee.

There are no returns on clearance items UNLESS they are defective, but they will ship you a replacement and refund your shipping costs (same goes for defective regular stock).

actually, i'm not too sure about the non-returnable thing but ppl that ordered the 7" portable divx dvd player f/ TD.ca not too long ago were sent an email about the order and for some reason it said "non-returnable"? :confused:

weird....

--------------

so did anyone successfully pm bb?

exactly what i'm wondering about...

[ardo]

I got one yesterday from the Markham store for my son. I asked 3 guys before one of them pointed me to where the boxes were, the first two just said it's sold out. >:(

Nice little PC, very quiet. Put an extra 1GB in to make it useable. Also, FWIW, paid the $53 for 1yr extended warranty. This is the 1st PC I ever bought assembled, been building mine up to now, but I just cannot beat that price for a basic PC.

Took me most of last night to get rid of all the junk software that comes pre-loaded... :D

[Canadianpsycho]

I got one yesterday from the Markham store for my son. I asked 3 guys before one of them pointed me to where the boxes were, the first two just said it's sold out. >:(

Nice little PC, very quiet. Put an extra 1GB in to make it useable. Also, FWIW, paid the $53 for 1yr extended warranty. This is the 1st PC I ever bought assembled, been building mine up to now, but I just cannot beat that price for a basic PC.

Took me most of last night to get rid of all the junk software that comes pre-loaded... :D

I'm assuming you put in an additional 2x512? Did it drop down to DDR333?

[madman604]

You can return anything, but there is a 15% restocking fee.

There are no returns on clearance items UNLESS they are defective, but they will ship you a replacement and refund your shipping costs (same goes for defective regular stock).

well my invoice says not retunable.

[yuprules]

well my invoice says not retunable.

There are no returns on clearance items.

[ardo]

I'm assuming you put in an additional 2x512? Did it drop down to DDR333?
Yes, I put in 2X512 Kingmax DDR400, why would it drop to DDR333? I haven't bothered to look at the BIOS yet.

[Lukus]

I just got a confirmation e-mail from BB saying I can go ahead with ordering the system as they will pricematch it. However, I just noticed that BB lowered their price from $549.99 to $399.99. Here's part of the e-mail I received from BB:

"Dear Mr. XXXXXXX:

This e-mail is in regards to your inquiry on price protection with Tiger
Direct for the eMachines T6216RA AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz Computer. We
have confirmed that we're able to match their price with an additonal 10%
discount. Please place an order online and provide us with the order
number, as well as case number ######. We will then discount the order
accordingly as long as prices have not changed and the stock is still
available."

So with the pricematch, you might get an additional $12 savings, depending on how they calculate the shipping. Then again, it might come to about the same price. Too bad they lowered the price, makes it hardly worth the effort, albeit it, you know have a 2nd avenue if you want to order that system.

[smithfan]

I still havent heard anything from them in regards to my request.

[madman604]

There are no returns on clearance items.

duh me no read so good. :D

[Saca_Saca]

I just got a confirmation e-mail from BB saying I can go ahead with ordering the system as they will pricematch it. However, I just noticed that BB lowered their price from $549.99 to $399.99. Here's part of the e-mail I received from BB:

"Dear Mr. XXXXXXX:

This e-mail is in regards to your inquiry on price protection with Tiger
Direct for the eMachines T6216RA AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz Computer. We
have confirmed that we're able to match their price with an additonal 10%
discount. Please place an order online and provide us with the order
number, as well as case number ######. We will then discount the order
accordingly as long as prices have not changed and the stock is still
available."

So with the pricematch, you might get an additional $12 savings, depending on how they calculate the shipping. Then again, it might come to about the same price. Too bad they lowered the price, makes it hardly worth the effort, albeit it, you know have a 2nd avenue if you want to order that system.


With BB you will have the option to return the thing if you don't like it.

[Canadianpsycho]

Yes, I put in 2X512 Kingmax DDR400, why would it drop to DDR333? I haven't bothered to look at the BIOS yet.

Because the MSI 6100 boards apparently default to DDR333 with 4 DIMMs. A lot of AMD systems lower to DDR333 with 4 DIMMS.

[felix]

With BB you will have the option to return the thing if you don't like it.
Yup, i'd rather buy from BB than ScammerDirect any day.

[audit13]

Looks like you can run at ddr400 using all 4 dimms if you follow MSI's recommendations listed here (assuming the emachine mobo has similar components):

http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8NGM2-L&class=mb

[Canadianpsycho]

Looks like you can run at ddr400 using all 4 dimms if you follow MSI's recommendations listed here (assuming the emachine mobo has similar components):

http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8NGM2-L&class=mb

Have fun getting 4 single sided dimms, from what I recall the 2x256 supplied with the system are double sided.

[ardo]

Have fun getting 4 single sided dimms, from what I recall the 2x256 supplied with the system are double sided.
I'm trying to digest that link's info. Is this an MSI quirk, or are al Mobos with DDR behaving the same way?

I'm wondering if I'd be better off populating DIMM1 & DIMM2 with my 1GB DDR400, and using the other 256X2 in another PC? I thought, with DDR you're supposed to populate DIMM1&3, then DIMM2&4, but I'm really confused now...

[Jeepthing]

Yup, i'd rather buy from BB than ScammerDirect any day.

BB refused to PM my order on the other hand:

"Dear XXXXXXXXXX:

Thank you for your recent inquiry on Best Buy Canada's Lowest Price
Guarantee.

We will not be crediting your order number XXXXXX for the eMachines
T6216RA AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz Computer - Refurbished - Online Only
due to the following reason(s):

We are not able to do this is because the item does have to be the same
and these two models are different numbers

In order to be able to do a price protection it can not be a limited time
offer."

They are real scambags, in my opinion, and deserve that somebody would file a complain with Consumer Rights Agency ... which I'm probably going to do now.

[fhofho]

I just got a confirmation e-mail from BB saying I can go ahead with ordering the system as they will pricematch it. However, I just noticed that BB lowered their price from $549.99 to $399.99. Here's part of the e-mail I received from BB:

"Dear Mr. XXXXXXX:

This e-mail is in regards to your inquiry on price protection with Tiger
Direct for the eMachines T6216RA AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz Computer. We
have confirmed that we're able to match their price with an additonal 10%
discount. Please place an order online and provide us with the order
number, as well as case number ######. We will then discount the order
accordingly as long as prices have not changed and the stock is still
available."

So with the pricematch, you might get an additional $12 savings, depending on how they calculate the shipping. Then again, it might come to about the same price. Too bad they lowered the price, makes it hardly worth the effort, albeit it, you know have a 2nd avenue if you want to order that system.

For those who get PM from BBY, here may be another $50USD saving.
http://www.bestbuy.ca/Rebate/pdfs/May_30_06-EmachinesBBY.pdf

Although I am not sure if they will honour rebate for a refurbished system, I just off phone with a BBY CSR and she told me this rebate form is eligible for this (http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10073194&catid=20217) system purchase.

[audit13]

The $50 rebate seems to apply to the T6216 as long as it is new and purchased from an authorized dealer.

I may send it in and see what happens. The worse they could do is say no?

[enigma54]

Mine just arrived today. Turned it on and went through the set-up and everything looks fine. However, I'm having NO success connecting to the internet!! I hooked up my old Windows 2000 machine and the internet connected right away. I have Rogers high-speed.

I went through all the internet and network connection settings in Control Panel and I don't see anything obvious. Can someone help? I've always used W2K and I'm not that familiar with XP but I think the two O/S's are pretty much identical right? Any suggestions?

Thanks!

[hd2002]

I went through all the internet and network connection settings in Control Panel and I don't see anything obvious. Can someone help? I've always used W2K and I'm not that familiar with XP but I think the two O/S's are pretty much identical right? Any suggestions?

Thanks!

if this is a direct connection to the cable modem, then you will need to power cycle the modem as well.

[rambokid]

Have fun getting 4 single sided dimms, from what I recall the 2x256 supplied with the system are double sided.WTF, DS 256M :-0 , these must be really old, are you sure?
No OCing functions at all, ZERO, NIL :mad:
Anyone flashed the latest bios yet, any new features?
The first few seconds on power up, fan is loud then dropped off, normal :confused:

[smithfan]

Mine just arrived today. Turned it on and went through the set-up and everything looks fine. However, I'm having NO success connecting to the internet!! I hooked up my old Windows 2000 machine and the internet connected right away. I have Rogers high-speed.

I went through all the internet and network connection settings in Control Panel and I don't see anything obvious. Can someone help? I've always used W2K and I'm not that familiar with XP but I think the two O/S's are pretty much identical right? Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Rogers used to map the IP address to the MAC address of your network card.
Connect your old puter up to the internet. Release the IP address and then connect the new one and renew the IP address.
Not sure if thats still the case with rogers but 5 years ago when I used them thats what they used to do.

[rambokid]

MS word is pre-installed, run it, but asking for Cd key :mad:
Where is the Cd key, is it included in the package?

[notoriousbigdan]

I caved as well and ordered it. I can really use these parts and will put it to use.

[enigma54]

Rogers used to map the IP address to the MAC address of your network card.
Connect your old puter up to the internet. Release the IP address and then connect the new one and renew the IP address.
Not sure if thats still the case with rogers but 5 years ago when I used them thats what they used to do.

Ahh...that does sound familiar! A stupid question but how do you release the IP address in XP?

Also is there a way to remove AOL, McAfee and the 30 day trial of Office from the system? It's a real pain to have all this crap on start-up when I have no plans on using any of this software. I almost feel like reformatting the drive and reinstalling XP, especially as they made the C: drive partition so huge and added a tiny, tiny D: drive partition.

Thanks guys!

[w00t]

The $50 rebate seems to apply to the T6216 as long as it is new and purchased from an authorized dealer.

I may send it in and see what happens. The worse they could do is say no?


Don't you need a UPC barcode for the rebate?

[audit13]

Don't you need a UPC barcode for the rebate?

I'll use the upc from the box and hope it works. If not, I'm out the cost of the stamp and about 10 minutes of my time. To bad the rebate form doesn't specify the upc of products that are eligible for the rebate.

There was a $50 rebate for this specific model from TD but you had to purchase the machine by June 30/06.

[Hobbesgsr]

Mine arrived yesterday afternoon. Love that its super quiet!!

Some details on the components:

- Seagate Barricuda ST3160212A 7200RPM UATA100 HD
- Hynix DDR RAM
- TSSTCorp (Toshiba Samsung) TS-H522B DL-DVDRW

[pei_boy]

I got it and flashed it with the latest and greatest MSI bios and it went without a hitch. Lots of o/c options, Cool n Quiet option, everything.

Sweet!

[fhofho]

I got it and flashed it with the latest and greatest MSI bios and it went without a hitch. Lots of o/c options, Cool n Quiet option, everything.

Sweet!
Can you share where you find the MSI bios?

[jetway1212]

Does the store have them in stock? (Markham and Etob.)

[mahjongmaniac]

Yup, i'd rather buy from BB than ScammerDirect any day.

blahahahah... scammerdirect :lol:


u guys just keep on comin' up w/ these hilarious names for the retailers... :-0

[mahjongmaniac]

BB refused to PM my order on the other hand:

"Dear XXXXXXXXXX:

Thank you for your recent inquiry on Best Buy Canada's Lowest Price
Guarantee.

We will not be crediting your order number XXXXXX for the eMachines
T6216RA AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz Computer - Refurbished - Online Only
due to the following reason(s):

We are not able to do this is because the item does have to be the same
and these two models are different numbers

In order to be able to do a price protection it can not be a limited time
offer."

They are real scambags, in my opinion, and deserve that somebody would file a complain with Consumer Rights Agency ... which I'm probably going to do now.

scambags? i knew that a long time ago :razz:

altho the model #s are slightly diff. (IIRC, "RA" vs. "RB"), some RFDer confirmed w/ an emachines CSR that they're the same... same UPC, etc...

[Canadianpsycho]

I got it and flashed it with the latest and greatest MSI bios and it went without a hitch. Lots of o/c options, Cool n Quiet option, everything.

Sweet!

Sweet, thanks for the update pei_boy.

Would you say it is just as quiet after the flash? If so I'm going right ahead with it.

[wing0]

scambags? i knew that a long time ago :razz:

altho the model #s are slightly diff. (IIRC, "RA" vs. "RB"), some RFDer confirmed w/ an emachines CSR that they're the same... same UPC, etc...

Why not just email Emachine, have them confirm that these two are the same model. Put that in the PM.
How do they calculate the shipping? Do they add the TD's shipping on to of the price and pricematch that instead?

[spdztr]

Hey guys, has anyone been able to change the video size? I've tried to lower the 128 to 64MB or 32MB in the BIOS, but it just keeps resetting to 128. Any suggestions? I spoke to their online help, and the guy told me to remove the batterry for 3 hours to completely reset the CMOS. any other suggestions?

[wing0]

Hey guys, has anyone been able to change the video size? I've tried to lower the 128 to 64MB or 32MB in the BIOS, but it just keeps resetting to 128. Any suggestions? I spoke to their online help, and the guy told me to remove the batterry for 3 hours to completely reset the CMOS. any other suggestions?

3 HRS?
:lol:

try loading the default setting...restart...go back into BIOS and change it.

[spdztr]

Ya, seemed absurd to me too. I tried the default settings, the optomized setting (which actually shows 64MB),but on reboot, it all reverts back.

[wing0]

Ya, seemed absurd to me too. I tried the default settings, the optomized setting (which actually shows 64MB),but on reboot, it all reverts back.

lol....take a stick of ram out...hahah...maybe it's calculated based on the memory that's in ur system.

[rambokid]

I got it and flashed it with the latest and greatest MSI bios and it went without a hitch. Lots of o/c options, Cool n Quiet option, everything.

Sweet!pei_boy beat me to it. I can confirm with pei_boy :cheesygri , 7207v15.zip, alot of options, include DDR voltage. I will play with OCing later ;) . You should make a backup in case of warranty work in the first 3 months :cheesygri

[pei_boy]

I wouldnt even worry about backups. eMachines has their latest and greatest branded bios on their website. If you want to change back, just download it there. ;-)

[pei_boy]

Sweet, thanks for the update pei_boy.

Would you say it is just as quiet after the flash? If so I'm going right ahead with it.



Maybe a bit louder, I dont think the MSI bios has speed fan control over the fan thats attached to the back of the case. I just unplugged it as with the MSI bios and COol and Quiet enabled, it is much cooler.

[zffarooq]

The price is 380 again :(

[north77]

If anyone bought this system on/before July 2nd, and wants a rebate for $23.50 ($35-11.49) from eTrust EZ Antivirus, PM me.

[notoriousbigdan]

The price is 380 again :(


Whew, I had a feeling it was going to go back up. Glad I ordered it last night :)

[Jeepthing]

scambags? i knew that a long time ago :razz:

altho the model #s are slightly diff. (IIRC, "RA" vs. "RB"), some RFDer confirmed w/ an emachines CSR that they're the same... same UPC, etc...

I confirmed the model number with gateway ... that was me who tried to PM it with BB first ...
Situation is that someone else got a PM and I got a refusal (LOL), not to mention that they have lowered the price - thats why I'm saying that BB are scambags.

I asked that guy who received a PM email from BB to forward that message to me, so I could file a complain with Goverment Agency (I'm willing to spend my time on this as it is not the first time BB is trying to scam their own PM policy).

[Jeepthing]

Ahh...that does sound familiar! A stupid question but how do you release the IP address in XP?

I had the same problem ...
If you are suing a router - there should be an option to release/renew IP address in the menu. Also there is an option to simulate MAC address (same place - router menu) ;)

[enigma54]

I had the same problem ...
If you are suing a router - there should be an option to release/renew IP address in the menu. Also there is an option to simulate MAC address (same place - router menu) ;)

I'm not using a router, it's a direct connection to the computer. Any ideas?

[Jeepthing]

I'm not using a router, it's a direct connection to the computer. Any ideas?

1. call rogers customer service and tell them your new mac address
2. buy a cheap router and simulate your "old" (old desktop network card's) mac address

[rambokid]

I'm not using a router, it's a direct connection to the computer. Any ideas?I believe the you need to clone the original mac address. I have set this up on a relative's dlink router with Rogers after he switched router, don't know how to do it without a router.

[wing0]

Ahh...that does sound familiar! A stupid question but how do you release the IP address in XP?

Also is there a way to remove AOL, McAfee and the 30 day trial of Office from the system? It's a real pain to have all this crap on start-up when I have no plans on using any of this software. I almost feel like reformatting the drive and reinstalling XP, especially as they made the C: drive partition so huge and added a tiny, tiny D: drive partition.

Thanks guys!

plug ur win2k machine back. Make sure you can go on the internet.
start -> run -> type in "cmd" -> in the command prompt type "ipconfig /release"

Plug the ethernet cable into ur new computer.

go into command prompt again through the same step.
type "ipconfig /renew"

try to go on the web now.

[audit13]

Wouldn't it be easier to reset the modem? I have Rogers and I just reset the modem each time I change network cards.

[notoriousbigdan]

Wouldn't it be easier to reset the modem? I have Rogers and I just reset the modem each time I change network cards.


Agreed. I troubleshooted a friend through the whole ipconfig /release /renew and to no avail. When they called Rogers, a simple cable modem reset fixed the issue.

[wing0]

Wouldn't it be easier to reset the modem? I have Rogers and I just reset the modem each time I change network cards.

lol...that's true...wasn't thinking...just that this way it will for sure work and you dun have to wait for the modem to come back online again...

[audit13]

Finally booted the computer. Wow, this machine is really quiet.

My components are:

A64 3200+ Venice Core
Western Digital WD1600BB (2mb cache, no warranty through WD)
Lite-On shw1635s (re-flashed with retail firmware)
2 x 256 Infineon singe-sided ddr400 cl3
PSU is a HiPro hp-p3527f3 with a 20-pin atx connector

The case has scratches, scrapes, and rub marks on the plastic. It functions but isn't too pretty.

I'll try the msi bios later today.

Hope this info is helpful.

[cannon_fodder]

When someone figures out how to upgrade the memory in these specific refurbs, with both pros and cons, please post.

Previous poster mentioned receiving Hynix single sided DDR400 RAM. But there also seems to be variances in the various components that make up these machines.

[audit13]

Flashed the board with bios version 3.5 from the MSI website and the fans run at full speed which makes the machine way too loud. In my case, the re-flashed board defaults to using the pci-e slot for graphics. Luckily, I had a spare pci-e card to get into the bios.

I flashed it back to the stock emachine bios to keep things quiet.

[hd2002]

Flashed the board with bios version 3.5 from the MSI website and the fans run at full speed which makes the machine way too loud. In my case, the re-flashed board defaults to using the pci-e slot for graphics. Luckily, I had a spare pci-e card to get into the bios.

I flashed it back to the stock emachine bios to keep things quiet.

3.5 is for the FID version of the mobo, try 1.5 instead. I made the same mistake yesterday(thinking higher number must be better, and msi site is not very clear about this, i found out later when i read the text file attached to the rom file..lol) and had to use flash recovery to get it back...It's still going to be loud right after flashing, activating "cool and quite" feature helps quite a bit

[milhaus]

Back to $380, or am I not seeing it correctly?

[w00t]

Back to $380, or am I not seeing it correctly?

Yup, it is back at $380.

[mahjongmaniac]

Previous poster mentioned receiving Hynix single sided DDR400 RAM. But there also seems to be variances in the various components that make up these machines.

well, TD's description doesn't specifically say exactly what brand of components are inside this PC case, so isn't it really up to them to decide what brand of components to put in it as long as it still meets the specifications mentioned on their website?


i think FS/BB are the same... they'll mention "dvd burner", "1gig RAM", etc. but it doesn't mention brand....

[mahjongmaniac]

Why not just email Emachine, have them confirm that these two are the same model. Put that in the PM.
How do they calculate the shipping? Do they add the TD's shipping on to of the price and pricematch that instead?

that's exactly what i was thinkin...

but u guys better have ur printouts handy b/c TD's price just went back up...

--------------------

I confirmed the model number with gateway ... that was me who tried to PM it with BB first ...
Situation is that someone else got a PM and I got a refusal (LOL), not to mention that they have lowered the price - thats why I'm saying that BB are scambags.

I asked that guy who received a PM email from BB to forward that message to me, so I could file a complain with Goverment Agency (I'm willing to spend my time on this as it is not the first time BB is trying to scam their own PM policy).

heh, so true that they like to SCAM their way out of their own policy....

it's not the 1st time for me that BB has denied a perfectly legit PM w/o a valid reason....

i think on a PM a long time ago, they just said the competitor had a "LTO"., but they clearly had it on sale for a few days.... so in my POV, they were making BS up ...


anyhoo, let us know what happens :)

[audit13]

3.5 is for the FID version of the mobo, try 1.5 instead. I made the same mistake yesterday(thinking higher number must be better, and msi site is not very clear about this, i found out later when i read the text file attached to the rom file..lol) and had to use flash recovery to get it back...It's still going to be loud right after flashing, activating "cool and quite" feature helps quite a bit

Cool, I'll try the 1.5 bios later. I'm in the process of re-encoding a dvd to NTSC.

What components did other people get?

[notoriousbigdan]

Cool, I'll try the 1.5 bios later. I'm in the process of re-encoding a dvd to NTSC.

What components did other people get?

I'll post when my shipment arrives next week.

[hd2002]

What components did other people get?

Deathstar drive :|
hynix ram

[Konowl]

Deathstar drive :|

?

[audit13]

Deathstar drive :|
hynix ram

I thought that Hitachi now makes the Deskstar and there are no issues with the Hitachi-made drives.

[ardo]

It's still going to be loud right after flashing, activating "cool and quite" feature helps quite a bit
Is it as quiet as it was with the original BIOS? I don't intend to overclock, but my kid sleeps with the PC on. :D

Also, I'm confused about which flash procedure to use, is it the one for "non-FAT" partitions, or just regular AMI? TIA.

[hd2002]

I thought that Hitachi now makes the Deskstar and there are no issues with the Hitachi-made drives.

You maybe right, it also says Hitachi on the drive. i just never liked deskstar brand and was hoping for a seagate

[notoriousbigdan]

You maybe right, it also says Hitachi on the drive. i just never liked deskstar brand and was hoping for a seagate


Ugh, please no deathstar. I see so many of these drives go... I'm preying for seagate.

[Bloogen_]

I got a seagate hard drive and everything else is working fine. Can someone else who has updated the bios explain how to do it. The only way I know is by using a floppy or a bootable cd.

[kmchow]

So if the bios are upgradeable, does that mean you could potentially upgrade CPUs in the future then? That is good b/c most brand name computers nowadays don't have that option available.

[Bloogen_]

I'm pretty sure you can upgrade the CPU on almost any computer that you buy.

[cheapbastage]

So if the bios are upgradeable, does that mean you could potentially upgrade CPUs in the future then? That is good b/c most brand name computers nowadays don't have that option available.

At the PC price/performance these days I think that there's no point in worrying about CPU upgrades...just make sure you can do a ram or video card upgrade.

[audit13]

I got a seagate hard drive and everything else is working fine. Can someone else who has updated the bios explain how to do it. The only way I know is by using a floppy or a bootable cd.

I created a dos boot disk using another computer and my win98 start-up floppy. Copied the flash program and bios file to the cd. Worked without a hitch.

I'm going to try bios version 1.5 in a few hours.

[rambokid]

Hynix ram,
Seagate drive (wish I had the WD as I got a few and less trouble to pair them on the same channel)

I flashed with v1.5, added 512M to make 1G, running at DDR400 speed, poor OCing setup thought. At 220, passed memtest, but xp failed to load; too bad no cpu voltage adjustment. The press power button 3 times thing from v1.5 doesn’t work as claimed.

From those who want to save the bios before flash, make a bootable usb flash drive, follow this link http://www.weethet.nl/english/hardware_bootfromusbstick.php

[Bloogen_]

Well, if OCing options are limited I might not even bother. Are there any other advantages to updating the bios?

[audit13]

Hynix ram,
Seagate drive (wish I had the WD as I got a few and less trouble to pair them on the same channel)...

My WD drive only has 2mb of cache. Does the seagate have 8mb? Any warranty on the Seagate other than through emachines?

[Hobbesgsr]

My WD drive only has 2mb of cache. Does the seagate have 8mb? Any warranty on the Seagate other than through emachines?

My Seagate ST3160212A (Barracuda 7200.9) has a 2MB cache as well.

[tommygun]

I put this pc in my cart when it was for $280 but never summited the order.
I looked at the order review today and it says the price for the pc is $380 but the total is $280, whats up with that?

[rambokid]

Well, if OCing options are limited I might not even bother. Are there any other advantages to updating the bios?Yes, if you add extra memory and forced to run at DDR333 speed, then the MSI bios has better option and may allow back to DDR400 speed. It did for me when I added extra 512M. Also, the MSI bios is date June 2006. I don't know much about the HyperTransport setting and did not try.

[rambokid]

My WD drive only has 2mb of cache. Does the seagate have 8mb? Any warranty on the Seagate other than through emachines? Seagate ST3160021A, 2M, ata100, ancient technology :mad:

[rambokid]

I put this pc in my cart when it was for $280 but never summited the order.
I looked at the order review today and it says the price for the pc is $380 but the total is $280, whats up with that?Phone to confirm then order, hot buy, use for spare parts :cheesygri

[SheeB]

I put this pc in my cart when it was for $280 but never summited the order.
I looked at the order review today and it says the price for the pc is $380 but the total is $280, whats up with that?

Website now says $380 and when added to the cart it comes as $380 :(

[Konowl]

Seagate ST3160021A, 2M, ata100, ancient technology :mad:

Aww come on, it's not THAT bad... ;)

[yuprules]

I put this pc in my cart when it was for $280 but never summited the order.
I looked at the order review today and it says the price for the pc is $380 but the total is $280, whats up with that?


Simple: The sale is over and is now $380.

[notoriousbigdan]

Whoa, this thread got pushed to page 5 of the 'hot deals'. Almost thought it had disappeared!

I will post my parts that my machine comes with when it arrives later this week.

[yuprules]

Whoa, this thread got pushed to page 5 of the 'hot deals'. Almost thought it had disappeared!

I will post my parts that my machine comes with when it arrives later this week.

Um...that's because the DEAL IS BARELY WARM at $380.

[madman604]

question for those running "cool and quiet"

have you run cpuZ to see how fast your cpu is running?

[rambokid]

My bad about limited OCing, 939 newbie :D .
After advice from friend, now running at 2.5Ghz, 1G RAM at full speed :) .
Tried bf2, aow ... stable, at lo res of course :D .
Also tried cool and quiet in XP, when activated, CPU voltage dropped from ~1.4v to ~1.1v, multipler dropped from 10X to 5X (1/2 speed), but no change in the already slow fan speed.

Looking for hot deal for pci-e gaming video card. Any suggestion in the $100-$250 range ?

[madman604]

^^^ hmm, thats what i thought. i'll just use my temp controlled fans. and ignore the C and Q program. this can be diabled in the BIOS right? my eVga Mobo has it too.

[Canadianpsycho]

^^^ hmm, thats what i thought. i'll just use my temp controlled fans. and ignore the C and Q program. this can be diabled in the BIOS right? my eVga Mobo has it too.

Yes CnQ can be disabled in the BIOS. Its usually recommended to disable it when OCing.

I still haven't bothered flashing the stock MSI BIOS. I probably won't if the exhaust fan is loud after the flash. I don't think the wife cares if she's running 2 or 2.5 GHz.

[notoriousbigdan]

Whoa, this thread got pushed to page 5 of the 'hot deals'. Almost thought it had disappeared!

I will post my parts that my machine comes with when it arrives later this week.

[notoriousbigdan]

Ack, my bad. Stupid repost.

[The Kid]

My bad about limited OCing, 939 newbie :D .
After advice from friend, now running at 2.5Ghz, 1G RAM at full speed :) .
Tried bf2, aow ... stable, at lo res of course :D .
Also tried cool and quiet in XP, when activated, CPU voltage dropped from ~1.4v to ~1.1v, multipler dropped from 10X to 5X (1/2 speed), but no change in the already slow fan speed.

Looking for hot deal for pci-e gaming video card. Any suggestion in the $100-$250 range ?

So does flashing the bios make the computer louder or not? I want to sleep with as little noise as possible at night (the original bios/computer setup is very quiet :) )

[rambokid]

So does flashing the bios make the computer louder or not? I want to sleep with as little noise as possible at night (the original bios/computer setup is very quiet :) )No, it does not :)

Edit:
eMachine bios: cpu 1534rpm, system 1110rpm
MSI bios: cpu 2280rpm system 2630rpm

[Diamond_Ace]

I bought one and received it two days later. On it now and it's working marvelously. I got it at $280!!

[audit13]

I bought one and received it two days later. On it now and it's working marvelously. I got it at $280!!

Congrats on your deal. Any idea what components are inside? Everyone seems to be getting different stuff :lol:

[condorguy]

Received the computer yesterday...beautiful and so quiet! Can't believe it was only $280...even the keyboard feels nice and soft to the touch...

[TDTD]

Since everyone seems interested the parts I received were a seagate hard drive and nanya ram. Will upgrade the bios and OC later.

[Diamond_Ace]

Congrats on your deal. Any idea what components are inside? Everyone seems to be getting different stuff :lol:

This may be a dumb question...but will I have to open it to know or will it say somewhere on my computer?

Please don't pick on me if it's a dumb question--some people are mean in forums!

[audit13]

This may be a dumb question...but will I have to open it to know or will it say somewhere on my computer?

Please don't pick on me if it's a dumb question--some people are mean in forums!

I opened mine to see exactly what's inside and to make sure I got what I was supposed to get.

Yes, some people can be mean but the people on RFD are fine.

[cannon_fodder]

Since everyone seems interested the parts I received were a seagate hard drive and nanya ram. Will upgrade the bios and OC later.
Got the same here... oh, and I got a LiteOn DVD/RW SHW1635.

I have had a bit of a problem. I don't see the activation codes in any of the boxes for the software (PowerDVD, Microsoft Works). Anything obvious that I'm missing?

[Sejad]

WOW this PC has better potential then my PC I bought mine like a year ago doesn't even have PCIE, even payed like $1000 brand new thou.

[Sejad]

pci X 16 is a PCI express right??

PCI-E X 16

or

PCI-E X 1


are both PCIX's but the X16 can handle never cards that came out before PCI-E X1.

[awstrat]

Can anyone tell me how high the DDR voltages go??

i wanan put some bh5s if i buy these.. hehehe

[Canadianpsycho]

No, it does not :)

Edit:
eMachine bios: cpu 1534rpm, system 1110rpm
MSI bios: cpu 2280rpm system 2630rpm

Uh, twice the rpms? Looks like I'll be leaving the PC with the stock BIOS.

[Canadianpsycho]

This may be a dumb question...but will I have to open it to know or will it say somewhere on my computer?

Please don't pick on me if it's a dumb question--some people are mean in forums!

You can find info on the Hard Drive and DVD Writer in the Device Manager. To see what RAM you have you'll need to open the PC.

[supergenius]

Really happy with this little PC! Likely the best PC deal I have got - and this includes buying from Dell in the US. Mine came with hynix ram, Seagate HDD, and Samsung DVD burner. Extremely quiet, and the speakers are great for my laptop, especially since they are usb powered.

[The Kid]

No, it does not :)

Edit:
eMachine bios: cpu 1534rpm, system 1110rpm
MSI bios: cpu 2280rpm system 2630rpm
Uh, twice the rpms? Looks like I'll be leaving the PC with the stock BIOS.

Hmmm. Twice the RPMs and yet no noise increase :confused: Thanks for steering a guy straight >:(

[The Kid]

You can find info on the Hard Drive and DVD Writer in the Device Manager. To see what RAM you have you'll need to open the PC.

Actually, since Diamond_Ace appears to be apprehensive in opening his computer, he could use a little prog to get all the information he would ever need (ie. PC Wizard 2006). It is free and can be found here:

PC Wizard 2006 (http://www.cpuid.com/pcwizard.php)

[tjuzer]

Just got today. Very scratch dirty. :( Anyone like this?

[audit13]

Just got today. Very scratch dirty. :( Anyone like this?

Mine was also scratched and scuffed but completely clean inside. I'm not too worried since the machine is under my desk and the price was excellent.

[condorguy]

Just got today. Very scratch dirty. :( Anyone like this?

Mine was brand new.... :)

[audit13]

Mine was brand new.... :)

Wow, brand new for $280, that makes this an even hotter deal :!:

[champ91]

for 280 this is a steal. but what kind of mobo is it? someone mentioned it's a MSI board, but I cna't find it on the site.

[neo1973]

Mine was brand new.... :)
Friend of mine got one brand new as well.

[Konowl]

for 280 this is a steal. but what kind of mobo is it? someone mentioned it's a MSI board, but I cna't find it on the site.

Scroll back a couple of pages.

[notoriousbigdan]

Just received mine. Both outside and inside look brand new (no scratches). Deathly quiet.. amazing.

KB is pretty snazzy as well. Just verifying all the part types and will post.

Extremely happy so far with what I got for 280, wow.

[notoriousbigdan]

Here's my machine specs:

MB: MS-7207G V.10
PSU: Bestec ATX-300 W
HDD: ST3160212A (160GB)
CD/DVD: LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-1635S
MEM: 2 x 256 Hyundai Electronics PC 3200 DDR 400
Proc: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice)

Will probably need to add some memory.

Just uninstalled all the junk software. Running tests on the HD right now. Showing up clean.

[The Kid]

Here's my machine specs:

MB: MS-7207G V.10
PSU: Bestec ATX-300 W
HDD: WDC WD1600BB-22GUC0 (160GB)
CD/DVD: HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4165B
MEM: 2 x 256 Nanya Technology PC 3200 DDR 400
Proc: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice)

Case was really clean and scratch free. Can anybody tell me what brand of CD/DVD drive I got from the cryptic code :confused:

[SLee]

Here's my machine specs:

CD/DVD: HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4165B

Case was really clean and scratch free. Can anybody tell me what brand of CD/DVD drive I got from the cryptic code :confused:
Hitachi-LG

[tjuzer]

very hot

at this price range, you usually get celeron/sempron, not athlon64. dvdrw is a nice upgrade as well. 512 ram instead of the usual 256mb. plus the integrated graphics are very good (as far as integrated solutions go) and there's room for expansion if needed.

i have several emachines in the office and they are rock solid. very reliable... and best of all QUIET.

Just turn on. Very LOUD like hair dryer for me.

[tjuzer]

OK, just to update...

Theres a huge silver "QA" sticker on the side panel. I'm not taking it off until I can find out if it will void my warranty. My TD receipt states I have to deal with emachines directly, so I guess I'll be calling them.

According to the BIOS:

-2 SATA ports
-HDD model # is ST3160212A, so a Seagate 7200.9 model.
-DVDRW is a "TSST corp TS-H552D", which is apparently a Samsung, according to Google.

There is no OCing options in the BIOS. Not sure if I need a key sequence or I need to flash the BIOS. Not going to fiddle with that for a while yet.

My is tear down :| . If your QA sticker still on that mean your machine new? How to know if machine new otherwise?

[tjuzer]

I try everest, pcwizard 2006, speefan but only show hard drive temperature nothing else. How do you find cpu temperature and rpm?

Also computer very slow when open speedfan and pcwizard program. Never this slow on old Celeron. :|

Memory also show as 384mb. Do I have lemon?

[Canadianpsycho]

Just turn on. Very LOUD like hair dryer for me.

For 2 seconds, yeah. Until the BIOS sets the fan speeds, everything defaults to high speed. Same thing happens with my DFI SLI Board and 1900XTX.

My is tear down :| . If your QA sticker still on that mean your machine new? How to know if machine new otherwise?

These aren't new, they're refurbs. Not everyone is getting mint sysyems. At $280 you can't expect 100% new components.

I try everest, pcwizard 2006, speefan but only show hard drive temperature nothing else. How do you find cpu temperature and rpm?

Also computer very slow when open speedfan and pcwizard program. Never this slow on old Celeron. :|

Memory also show as 384mb. Do I have lemon?

The onboard graphics share the memory with the system RAM. 384 + 128 Video = 512. Either add a cheap gfx card, more RAM, or both for a snappier machine.

You probably have to configure speedfan. I'm not sure, I don't use it.

[ardo]

I try everest, pcwizard 2006, speefan but only show hard drive temperature nothing else. How do you find cpu temperature and rpm?

Everset Ultimate 2006 shows temps, fan speed, and CPU voltage in the task bar. Mine is running at: MoBo = 39C, CPU = 38C with original BIOS.

To flash BIOS, do you guys make a bootable CD? How about a bootable USB device? TIA.

[rambokid]

To flash BIOS, do you guys make a bootable CD? How about a bootable USB device? TIA. Scroll back a few pages for link on bootable USB flash drive.

[spdztr]

Memory also show as 384mb. Do I have lemon?

They would all show this since the video card shares the 512MB.

Has anyone been able to reduce the video memory? For me it always reverts back to the 128 no matter what.

[ardo]

They would all show this since the video card shares the 512MB.

Has anyone been able to reduce the video memory? For me it always reverts back to the 128 no matter what.
I also would like to know the answer. I have 1GB installed, and Everest shows the video using 256MB... :confused:

[w00t]

This is what my came with:

MB: MS-7207G V.10
PSU: Bestec ATX-300 W
HDD: ST3160021A (160GB)
CD/DVD: LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-1635S
MEM: 2 x 256 Hyundai Electronics PC 3200 DDR 400
Proc: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice)

My system didn't come with the big huge silver "QA" sticker on the side panel.

The case is better new had like 2 or 3 minor marks on it.

[cannon_fodder]

I have had a bit of a problem. I don't see the activation codes in any of the boxes for the software (PowerDVD, Microsoft Works). Anything obvious that I'm missing?

I know many of you are wiping or at least deinstalling all the software but I'd like to leave these for the kids.

[tjuzer]

Ok. I just figure out loudest part is power supply. Much much louder than CPU. Is this ok? If yes I don't know how this is quiet PC as Dell power supply much much higher with more watt used too!

[Canadianpsycho]

I have had a bit of a problem. I don't see the activation codes in any of the boxes for the software (PowerDVD, Microsoft Works). Anything obvious that I'm missing?

I know many of you are wiping or at least deinstalling all the software but I'd like to leave these for the kids.

Call Emachines. They'll pick up in less then a minute. Number is on the front panel, or in the little cubbyhole where the front audio jacks are.

Ok. I just figure out loudest part is power supply. Much much louder than CPU. Is this ok? If yes I don't know how this is quiet PC as Dell power supply much much higher with more watt used too!

The PC is extremely quiet. What exactly are you expecting for 280 dollars? Sell the damn thing if you're gonna ***** about it. I'm sure somebody would gladly pay you what you paid for it.

[The Kid]

I have had a bit of a problem. I don't see the activation codes in any of the boxes for the software (PowerDVD, Microsoft Works). Anything obvious that I'm missing?

I know many of you are wiping or at least deinstalling all the software but I'd like to leave these for the kids.

You got boxes for your software? WTH? I only got an activation card for my Microsoft software (Works, etc).

[yuprules]

You got boxes for your software? WTH? I only got an activation card for my Microsoft software (Works, etc).

I think he means a piece of paper with the activation codes IN the SHIPPING BOXES, not jewel cases.

[madman604]

mine still isnt here. left ontario 2 days ago.

[mahjongmaniac]

Here's my machine specs:

MB: MS-7207G V.10
PSU: Bestec ATX-300 W
HDD: WDC WD1600BB-22GUC0 (160GB)
CD/DVD: HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4165B
MEM: 2 x 256 Nanya Technology PC 3200 DDR 400
Proc: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice)

Case was really clean and scratch free. Can anybody tell me what brand of CD/DVD drive I got from the cryptic code :confused:

heh... surprised sb got an Hitachi-LG drive cuz it seems like everybody else got a Samsung/Toshiba or LiteOn....

[zffarooq]

Hey guyz i have a problem
If i put a mic or hedphone in the front of the case it dosn't work :mad:
Do i have a defective system?
Thanks

[The Kid]

heh... surprised sb got an Hitachi-LG drive cuz it seems like everybody else got a Samsung/Toshiba or LiteOn....

You're telling me. I thought I would get a Liteon or Samsung/Toshiba drive. Anybody have any experience with this type of drive? I certainly don't!

[yuprules]

Hey guyz i have a problem
If i put a mic or hedphone in the front of the case it dosn't work :mad:
Do i have a defective system?
Thanks

Maybe the cable between the front panel and the motherboard fell out (or is missing completely?).

[ardo]

The PC is extremely quiet. What exactly are you expecting for 280 dollars? Sell the damn thing if you're gonna ***** about it. I'm sure somebody would gladly pay you what you paid for it.
If he's complaining about PSU noise, perhaps there's a problem. For myself (and most others), you can barely hear this PC, my VAIO notebook is louder, LOL.

[zffarooq]

my specs are
Hardrive=hdt7225.....
Dvd-rw=tsst corp dvdrw ts-h5528
Can anyone tell me what company are these
tnx

[yuprules]

my specs are
Hardrive=hdt7225.....
Dvd-rw=tsst corp dvdrw ts-h5528
Can anyone tell me what company are these
tnx

DVD is Toshiba Samsung drive.

[zffarooq]

Maybe the cable between the front panel and the motherboard fell out (or is missing completely?).

No i oppened it and checked the wire is there and its conected in the motherbord rite under the modem

Mabye you need a driver for it?

[yuprules]

No i oppened it and checked the wire is there and its conected in the motherbord rite under the modem

Mabye you need a driver for it?

If the mic works on the BACK of the PC, the driver is installed for the sound card.

[zffarooq]

Hardrive=hdt722516dlat80

Can anyone tell me what company is this?
How does it compare with segate or western digital?

tnx

[yuprules]

Hardrive=hdt722516dlat80

Can anyone tell me what company is this?
How does it compare with segate or western digital?

tnx

Google is your friend:
http://www.directron.com/0a31635.html

[zffarooq]

I know this is off topic but is xp pro 64-bit really worth updating from xp pro for this computer since its 64bit.

tnx

[yuprules]

I know this is off topic but is xp pro 64-bit really worth updating from xp pro for this computer since its 64bit.

tnx

Nope because so many drivers and apps don't work on the 64 bit processor yet.

[sgmtl]

Hey guyz i have a problem
If i put a mic or hedphone in the front of the case it dosn't work :mad:
Do i have a defective system?
Thanks


did you check if it's muted in the sound control panel?

A lot of my stuff was muted for some reason.

[zffarooq]

did you check if it's muted in the sound control panel?

A lot of my stuff was muted for some reason.
:) tnx alot. It was indeed muted

[sixer]

How long do they take to ship out! Ordered 6 days ago and it still hasn't left the warehouse!

[The Kid]

How long do they take to ship out! Ordered 6 days ago and it still hasn't left the warehouse!

Mine was shipped within a couple of hours upon ordering (I ordered on the last day before the price magically changed). I received the product within 2 days.

[sixer]

Mine was shipped within a couple of hours upon ordering (I ordered on the last day before the price magically changed). I received the product within 2 days.

See, I hate when a company is so inconsistent. My price still shows as Friday's sale price when I ordered, but still at warehouse!

Anything I can do, already called and complained!

[The Kid]

Anyone know where is msi bios? I see before but no find now. Double read thread twice but nothing. :|

Ummm. The thread has the link to the MSI Bios. Anyway, here it is

MSI Bios (http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=702&kind=1)

I am still trying to learn how to flash the bios from a CD. The Emachines bios was easy to flash since it had an NRG image that could be burned and then ultimately inserted into the DVD/CD drive to flash. Can anybody help me out with the MSI Bios and putting it onto a CD to flash?

[audit13]

I have had a bit of a problem. I don't see the activation codes in any of the boxes for the software (PowerDVD, Microsoft Works). Anything obvious that I'm missing?

I know many of you are wiping or at least deinstalling all the software but I'd like to leave these for the kids.

Based on my experience, there's no need to activate or re-activate if you restore the system. I've restored the system about 5 times using different hard drives for testing. When I used the restore or moved the emachines hard drive to a non-emachines pc, it required activation. I think as long as the restore is to an "emachines" mobo, activation isn't required.

[audit13]

Ummm. The thread has the link to the MSI Bios. Anyway, here it is

MSI Bios (http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=702&kind=1)

I am still trying to learn how to flash the bios from a CD. The Emachines bios was easy to flash since it had an NRG image that could be burned and then ultimately inserted into the DVD/CD drive to flash. Can anybody help me out with the MSI Bios and putting it onto a CD to flash?

You could create a bootable cd and copy the flash files to the cd. I accomplished this by using Easy Cd 5 and a win98 boot floppy disk.

[audit13]

Hardrive=hdt722516dlat80

Can anyone tell me what company is this?
How does it compare with segate or western digital?

tnx

I think you received a better drive since it has 8mb of cache. I, along with many others, received Seagate or WD drives with 2mb of cache.

[tjuzer]

Based on my experience, there's no need to activate or re-activate if you restore the system. I've restored the system about 5 times using different hard drives for testing. When I used the restore or moved the emachines hard drive to a non-emachines pc, it required activation. I think as long as the restore is to an "emachines" mobo, activation isn't required.

I got same problem. Office not work for me.

I just flash msi bios. Everest 2006 show CPU 2598 Chasis 5444 Cool'n'Quiet enable, Emachine bios only half that. Only program that show this so far. Even speedfan not work.

[Diamond_Ace]

Hey guyz i have a problem
If i put a mic or hedphone in the front of the case it dosn't work :mad:
Do i have a defective system?
Thanks

Hi, I had the same issue and contacted eMachines. There was a problem with the sound/video card driver. Here's the solution as per reply from eMachine guy:

There is a possibility that your sound card driver is corrupted. You
may have installed new software, updated Windows files or added new
hardware. What I would suggest is for you to reload your drivers
through the steps below. Restart the computer in Safe Mode and
reinstall the sound drivers.

As the computer restarts repeatedly tap the F8 key as the computer is
starting up. Tap 2 times per second until it displays the Windows XP
start up menu. Choose Safe Mode and press the Enter key. (For Windows
XP there will be an additional menu. Choose the top "Microsoft Windows
XP home Edition" by highlighting this line and pressing "Enter").

(Here in Safe Mode get out of the help and support window by clicking on
the X in the upper right-hand corner or by clicking on OK for the window
that says you are in Safe Mode.)

1. Click on “Start”.
2. Click on "Control Panel".
3. On the left-hand side, click the line that says, "Switch to Classical
View". If it says, “Switch to Category view” then do not click on it.
4. Double-click on the "System" Icon.
5. Click on the "Hardware" tab.
6. Select the "Device Manager" tab. Click on the Device Manager button.
7. Click "View" and select "Show hidden devices" from the menu that
drops down.
8. Look for a "Sound, video and game controllers" category.
9. If the category is listed, click on the plus sign next to "Sound,
video and game controllers". You will notice that a sub-menu will
appear. Highlight the first device in this sub-menu by clicking on it a
single time.
10. Then right-click on the device and choose to "Uninstall”. Click on
“OK” to the Warning and "No" if it asks to restart the computer.
11. If the "Sound Video and Games controllers" category is still listed,
continue removing items from that category until it disappears. (I had to delete everything for this category to disappear)
12 Also, remove any devices that have a yellow "!" or "?". If there is
an "Unknown Devices" or "Other Devices" category, remove all devices in
these categories until they also disappear.
13. Next click on "Close" and choose to restart your computer.
14. As the computer restarts it will redetect and reinstall the sound
card. (It did.)

Since your system has the Medialess Recovery Console installed on your
system.

Please follow the steps below to reinstall the drivers on your D
partition Recovery drive.

1. Click on Start

2. Click on All Programs

3. Select System Recovery then Application & Driver Recovery. This
will open a program that will allow you to reinstall the drivers or any
preinstalled programs available on the hard drive.

It looked like mine had alreayd reinstalled the drivers but I did it again anyways. It says it's best to uninstall before reinstalling and I just continued.

Next, in the realtek (or whatever the sound program is called) UNCHECK "mute back when front jacks are plugged in". I think this is backwards in the programming or something because once I did that--It all worked. Double checked on MSN by chatting. :)

Hope this helps!

[bnb]

The beta version of Speedfan works. You have to install the 4.28 version first, then sign up for the beta and download version 4.29.
You can flash from Windows by downloading live update from http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_liveupdate.php
then go to C:\Program Files\MSI\Live Update 3\FlashUty\AMI and start that program. Open the bios file and flash. I checked all the options on the left panel. More info can be found on the MSI forums.

[madman604]

got mine today. a few minor scuffs, but overall looks new.
now for the testing!

EDIT: can someone post an image file of the bootable CD with new BIOS so we can just burn one and go, thanks.

[The Kid]

got mine today. a few minor scuffs, but overall looks new.
now for the testing!

EDIT: can someone post an image file of the bootable CD with new BIOS so we can just burn one and go, thanks.

I second agree wholeheartedly.

[madman604]

i just flashed my BIOS with the above mentioned "live update" method. just unzip the bios rom file to any folder. the extension is .150

change it to .rom

then use the live update program located here:

C:\Program Files\MSI\Live Update 3\FlashUty\AMI\winsfi.exe

then find and open the rom file (thru the program) you just renamed.

done

[madman604]

the Hynix ram seem so only be stable @ 220 FSB = 2.2ghz :evil:

[coolspot]

the Hynix ram seem so only be stable @ 220 FSB = 2.2ghz :evil:

eh, it's a 280.00 comptuer ;)

[madman604]

hehe, i know, it will boot up at 2.4 ghz but fails at prime 95

[tjuzer]

How do you tell quality of part? That is what I got.

Mainboard : To be filled by O.E.M. MS-7207G
Chipset : nVidia nForce 410/430
Processor : AMD Athlon 64 3200+ @ 2000 MHz
Physical Memory : 512 MB (2 x 256 DDR-SDRAM )
Video Card : Nvidia Corp GeForce 6100
Hard Disk : WDC (160 GB)
DVD-Rom Drive : LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-1635S

Manufacturer : Infineon
Part Number : 64D32301HU5B
Type : DDR-SDRAM PC3200 (200 MHz) - [DDR-400]
Size : 256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
Module Buffered : No
Module Registered : No
Module EPP : No
Width : 64-bit
Error Correction Capability : No
Max. Burst Length : 8
Refresh : Reduced (.5x)7.8 µs, Self Refresh
Voltage : SSTL 2.5v
Manufacture : Week 65 of 2005 ??????????????????????????????
Supported Frequencies : 133 MHz, 166 MHz, 200 MHz
CAS Latency (tCL) : 2 clocks @133 MHz, 2.5 clocks @166 MHz, 3 clocks @200 MHz
RAS to CAS (tRCD) : 2 clocks @133 MHz, 3 clocks @166 MHz, 3 clocks @200 MHz
RAS Precharge (tRP) : 2 clocks @133 MHz, 3 clocks @166 MHz, 3 clocks @200 MHz
Cycle Time (tRAS) : 6 clocks @133 MHz, 7 clocks @166 MHz, 8 clocks @200 MHz

[audit13]

How do you tell quality of part? That is what I got.

Mainboard : To be filled by O.E.M. MS-7207G
Chipset : nVidia nForce 410/430
Processor : AMD Athlon 64 3200+ @ 2000 MHz
Physical Memory : 512 MB (2 x 256 DDR-SDRAM )
Video Card : Nvidia Corp GeForce 6100
Hard Disk : WDC (160 GB)
DVD-Rom Drive : LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-1635S

Manufacturer : Infineon
Part Number : 64D32301HU5B
Type : DDR-SDRAM PC3200 (200 MHz) - [DDR-400]
Size : 256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
Module Buffered : No
Module Registered : No
Module EPP : No
Width : 64-bit
Error Correction Capability : No
Max. Burst Length : 8
Refresh : Reduced (.5x)7.8 µs, Self Refresh
Voltage : SSTL 2.5v
Manufacture : Week 65 of 2005 ??????????????????????????????
Supported Frequencies : 133 MHz, 166 MHz, 200 MHz
CAS Latency (tCL) : 2 clocks @133 MHz, 2.5 clocks @166 MHz, 3 clocks @200 MHz
RAS to CAS (tRCD) : 2 clocks @133 MHz, 3 clocks @166 MHz, 3 clocks @200 MHz
RAS Precharge (tRP) : 2 clocks @133 MHz, 3 clocks @166 MHz, 3 clocks @200 MHz
Cycle Time (tRAS) : 6 clocks @133 MHz, 7 clocks @166 MHz, 8 clocks @200 MHz

I have the same parts in my machine.

I'm not sure about the quality but, overall, it's pretty good. I run everything at stock so it's fine for my purposes.

[Saca_Saca]

The big ugly brown truck just "dropped" mine off. As usual the item was damaged. Nothing major, the bay covers were pushed in and the small tabs that hold them in place were broken off. :mad:
Other than that the sytem looks like new. It's hard to believe that the pc is a refurb,very clean.
Thanks OP for the great deal!

[zffarooq]

Hi, I had the same issue and contacted eMachines. There was a problem with the sound/video card driver. Here's the solution as per reply from eMachine guy:

There is a possibility that your sound card driver is corrupted. You
may have installed new software, updated Windows files or added new
hardware. What I would suggest is for you to reload your drivers
through the steps below. Restart the computer in Safe Mode and
reinstall the sound drivers.

As the computer restarts repeatedly tap the F8 key as the computer is
starting up. Tap 2 times per second until it displays the Windows XP
start up menu. Choose Safe Mode and press the Enter key. (For Windows
XP there will be an additional menu. Choose the top "Microsoft Windows
XP home Edition" by highlighting this line and pressing "Enter").

(Here in Safe Mode get out of the help and support window by clicking on
the X in the upper right-hand corner or by clicking on OK for the window
that says you are in Safe Mode.)

1. Click on “Start”.
2. Click on "Control Panel".
3. On the left-hand side, click the line that says, "Switch to Classical
View". If it says, “Switch to Category view” then do not click on it.
4. Double-click on the "System" Icon.
5. Click on the "Hardware" tab.
6. Select the "Device Manager" tab. Click on the Device Manager button.
7. Click "View" and select "Show hidden devices" from the menu that
drops down.
8. Look for a "Sound, video and game controllers" category.
9. If the category is listed, click on the plus sign next to "Sound,
video and game controllers". You will notice that a sub-menu will
appear. Highlight the first device in this sub-menu by clicking on it a
single time.
10. Then right-click on the device and choose to "Uninstall”. Click on
“OK” to the Warning and "No" if it asks to restart the computer.
11. If the "Sound Video and Games controllers" category is still listed,
continue removing items from that category until it disappears. (I had to delete everything for this category to disappear)
12 Also, remove any devices that have a yellow "!" or "?". If there is
an "Unknown Devices" or "Other Devices" category, remove all devices in
these categories until they also disappear.
13. Next click on "Close" and choose to restart your computer.
14. As the computer restarts it will redetect and reinstall the sound
card. (It did.)

Since your system has the Medialess Recovery Console installed on your
system.

Please follow the steps below to reinstall the drivers on your D
partition Recovery drive.

1. Click on Start

2. Click on All Programs

3. Select System Recovery then Application & Driver Recovery. This
will open a program that will allow you to reinstall the drivers or any
preinstalled programs available on the hard drive.

It looked like mine had alreayd reinstalled the drivers but I did it again anyways. It says it's best to uninstall before reinstalling and I just continued.

Next, in the realtek (or whatever the sound program is called) UNCHECK "mute back when front jacks are plugged in". I think this is backwards in the programming or something because once I did that--It all worked. Double checked on MSN by chatting. :)

Hope this helps!


Tnx very much it worked :cheesygri

[rambokid]

hehe, i know, it will boot up at 2.4 ghz but fails at prime 95Running stable at 2.5G, up RAM to 1G, added 7600GT, tried bf2, no crash with the 300W PS :-0
Called TD try to PM myself for 1 more, the guy said NO :mad:

[The Kid]

No, it does not :)

Edit:
eMachine bios: cpu 1534rpm, system 1110rpm
MSI bios: cpu 2280rpm system 2630rpm

rambokid,

Would you mind telling me how you got your CPU fan speed to be so low. After flashing to the new MSI bios, I get the following numbers:

MSI bios: CPU fan: 5443, System fan: 2556.

Thanks for any advice you can give. BTW, my system now sounds like I am running a perpetual hair dryer at home after flashing to the new MSI bios.

[Konowl]

rambokid,

Would you mind telling me how you got your CPU fan speed to be so low. After flashing to the new MSI bios, I get the following numbers:

MSI bios: CPU fan: 5443, System fan: 2556.

Thanks for any advice you can give. BTW, my system now sounds like I am running a perpetual hair dryer at home after flashing to the new MSI bios.

Did you turn on Cool and Quiet as per above? I flashed, turned on Cool and Quiet (OFF by default) and it's all good again.

[The Kid]

Did you turn on Cool and Quiet as per above? I flashed, turned on Cool and Quiet (OFF by default) and it's all good again.

Really. I flashed, restarted and then I loaded up the default settings in the bios. I rebooted again and I found cool and quiet under the cell_menu setting. You are correct in saying that by default cool and quiet is set to disable but I subsequently enabled it and I didn't notice much of a change with respect to the hair dryer noise after restarting the system again. When you enabled cool and quiet, did the noise immediately stop after you rebooted?

[audit13]

Really. I flashed, restarted and then I loaded up the default settings in the bios. I rebooted again and I found cool and quiet under the cell_menu setting. You are correct in saying that by default cool and quiet is set to disable but I subsequently enabled it and I didn't notice much of a change with respect to the hair dryer noise after restarting the system again. When you enabled cool and quiet, did the noise immediately stop after you rebooted?

I found that using the MSI bios also resulted in both fans running at full speed for a few seconds before slowing down to a more reasonable level. However, the MSI bios's minimum fan speed seems to be higher than the emachines bios. I'm not sure why but it does.

Did you try re-flashing to the emachines bios to see what happens?

[Konowl]

Really. I flashed, restarted and then I loaded up the default settings in the bios. I rebooted again and I found cool and quiet under the cell_menu setting. You are correct in saying that by default cool and quiet is set to disable but I subsequently enabled it and I didn't notice much of a change with respect to the hair dryer noise after restarting the system again. When you enabled cool and quiet, did the noise immediately stop after you rebooted?

Yup, but I also turned on Smartfan under H/W Monitor I believe it was

[The Kid]

I found that using the MSI bios also resulted in both fans running at full speed for a few seconds before slowing down to a more reasonable level. However, the MSI bios's minimum fan speed seems to be higher than the emachines bios. I'm not sure why but it does.

Did you try re-flashing to the emachines bios to see what happens?

audit13,

I did reflash to the newest eMachine bios. After the reflash and the subsequent restart, I loaded up the default settings and rebooted the system. The reflashed machine made the hair dryer noise for a couple of seconds and then disappeared. Am I the only person getting the constant hair dryer noise when flashing to the MSI bios? I believe I enabled cool and quiet after the MSI bios flash although I can't 100% guarantee that it took because I am a newbie at flashing/bios settings.

[tjuzer]

audit13,

I did reflash to the newest eMachine bios. After the reflash and the subsequent restart, I loaded up the default settings and rebooted the system. The reflashed machine made the hair dryer noise for a couple of seconds and then disappeared. Am I the only person getting the constant hair dryer noise when flashing to the MSI bios? I believe I enabled cool and quiet after the MSI bios flash although I can't 100% guarantee that it took because I am a newbie at flashing/bios settings.

Your not alone :)

[audit13]

audit13,

I did reflash to the newest eMachine bios. After the reflash and the subsequent restart, I loaded up the default settings and rebooted the system. The reflashed machine made the hair dryer noise for a couple of seconds and then disappeared. Am I the only person getting the constant hair dryer noise when flashing to the MSI bios? I believe I enabled cool and quiet after the MSI bios flash although I can't 100% guarantee that it took because I am a newbie at flashing/bios settings.

You're not the only person having this problem. If you want to keep the MSI bios, you may want to undervolt your fans. This is a great website for "silent" equipment:

www.silentpcreview.com

[The Kid]

Yup, but I also turned on Smartfan under H/W Monitor I believe it was

Konowl,

I messed around with the MSI bios settings and I found that, just as you said, under the H/W monitor, enabling the "Smart Fan1 Target Temperature" and the "Smart Fan Tolerance" is what makes the hair dryer noise go away after 2 seconds upon startup. Flipping the cool and quiet switch either way (on or off) doesn't seem to do much with regards to the CPU fan and system fan speed (check it out yourself).

With the Smart Fan1 Target Temperature and Smart Fan Tolerance enabled (cool and quiet disabled), the readings are

CPU fan: 2311
System Fan: 2556

With the Smart Fan1 Target Temperature and Smart Fan Tolerance enabled (cool and quiet enabled), the readings are

CPU fan: 2311
System Fan: 2556

Coincidently, the default settings of the eMachine bios are as follows:

Smart CPU Fan Target Temperature ENABLED (55 C)
Smart CPU Fan Target Tolerance (5 C)
Smart System Fan Target Temperature ENABLED (45 C)
Smart System Fan Target Tolerance (5 C)

I am certain that if you were to disable those settings in the eMachine bios, your fan speeds would increase and you would hear the hair dryer noise all the time. Thanks for the advice/help audit13, tjuzer and Konowl. Looks like I may be switching back to the original eMachine bios as I get lower fans speeds and I get the same DDR333 regardless of bios (I have 2 sticks of single sided 256 MB RAM and 2 sticks of double sided 512 MB RAM). Unless of course, somebody out there can justify to me why I should stick with the MSI bios.

[Konowl]

Konowl,

I messed around with the MSI bios settings and I found that, just as you said, under the H/W monitor, enabling the "Smart Fan1 Target Temperature" and the "Smart Fan Tolerance" is what makes the hair dryer noise go away after 2 seconds upon startup. Flipping the cool and quiet switch either way (on or off) doesn't seem to do much with regards to the CPU fan and system fan speed (check it out yourself).

I did, that's why I continued messing around after enabling Cool and Quiet. Now, I have done NO research into exactly what Cool and Quiet DOES... but I do know that if you download the AMD utilitiy it dynamically changes the core voltage and clock speed, which is the COOL part, and perhaps it works with "Smartfan" for the quiet part.

[Konowl]

audit13,

I did reflash to the newest eMachine bios. After the reflash and the subsequent restart, I loaded up the default settings and rebooted the system. The reflashed machine made the hair dryer noise for a couple of seconds and then disappeared. Am I the only person getting the constant hair dryer noise when flashing to the MSI bios? I believe I enabled cool and quiet after the MSI bios flash although I can't 100% guarantee that it took because I am a newbie at flashing/bios settings.

You have to enable Smartfan under H/W.

[rambokid]

I did, that's why I continued messing around after enabling Cool and Quiet. Now, I have done NO research into exactly what Cool and Quiet DOES... but I do know that if you download the AMD utilitiy it dynamically changes the core voltage and clock speed, which is the COOL part, and perhaps it works with "Smartfan" for the quiet part.Yes, COOL and QUIET require the AMD utility and set to "Minimal Power Managment" in the Power Schemes property page. For the COOL part, during low CPU usage, it drop the CPU voltage and half the clock multiplier, which in effect drops the CPU temperature. The QUIET part, can't confirm. The theroy is, if the CPU is already cool and the fan already running at the lowest speed, it cannot get any quieter :cheesygri

To proof the QUIET part, play a 3D game, the fan speed will increase, then quit games, the COOL part kicks in, then the QUIET part kicks in :D

[rambokid]

Konowl,
Looks like I may be switching back to the original eMachine bios as I get lower fans speeds and I get the same DDR333 regardless of bios (I have 2 sticks of single sided 256 MB RAM and 2 sticks of double sided 512 MB RAM). Unless of course, somebody out there can justify to me why I should stick with the MSI bios.Even with eMachine bios, the fan is loud for a few seconds on boot up, this is the same for MSI bios.

For MSI, enable COOL & QUIET, enable SMART FAN, set tolerance to 2. Reboot. Yes, the MSI has a higher base line rpm, but different in noise is not noticeable.

For DDR333, go to bios, change Memclock Mode to MANUAL, then set to 200. It worked for me with 4 single sided 256M. Or for OCing, leave it at AUTO, drop CPU to NB to 800 (HTT), up CPU-LDT (I suggest do it incrementally, this is FSB). My CPU-LDT is at max 250, this bring the HTT back to 1000 (4X250). I hope the terminalogy is correct, still a 939 newbie.

[PSJ]

Hey all, new here.

I ordered one online, 6 days to Rural Nova Scotia so not too bad considering it gets handed off to two different delivery companies after UPS.

Got it at the $279.00 deal

Mine came with the following:

Barracuda Hard Drive

Lite-On Drive

Hynix Memory

Generic v.92 modem

The case doesn't have any "QA" sticker and is in pretty good shape except for some scratches near the expansion card openings. Other than that it looks new and works A+

I not completely fimiliar with XP so I was wondering if it's possible to format the hard drive and reinstall without all the extra crap? TIA.

[The Kid]

Even with eMachine bios, the fan is loud for a few seconds on boot up, this is the same for MSI bios.

For MSI, enable COOL & QUIET, enable SMART FAN, set tolerance to 2. Reboot. Yes, the MSI has a higher base line rpm, but different in noise is not noticeable.

For DDR333, go to bios, change Memclock Mode to MANUAL, then set to 200. It worked for me with 4 single sided 256M. Or for OCing, leave it at AUTO, drop CPU to NB to 800 (HTT), up CPU-LDT (I suggest do it incrementally, this is FSB). My CPU-LDT is at max 250, this bring the HTT back to 1000 (4X250). I hope the terminalogy is correct, still a 939 newbie.

rambokid,

You are correct. Changing the Memclock Mode to MANUAL and setting the limit to 200 did the trick -> DDR400 (yeah!); my system has 1.5 GB of RAM (a combination of single and double sided RAM). What value did you set for "Smart Fan1 Target Temperature"? What made you choose a "Smart Fan1 Tolerance" of 2 C since the temperatures can range from 1 to 3 C? Do you think adjusting the DDR voltage (Cell_Menu->Voltage Control Function->Adjust DDR Voltage) from the default value of 2.55 to the max yellow peformance value of 2.85 improves/degrades performance? Lastly, where can I get the AMD utility that you talk about?

[windays]

Got the unit with same spec. from PC Village at Scarborough location for $365, no XP Home but 3 years manufactory warranty because of all brand new.

[rambokid]

What value did you set for "Smart Fan1 Target Temperature"? What made you choose a "Smart Fan1 Tolerance" of 2 C since the temperatures can range from 1 to 3 C? Do you think adjusting the DDR voltage (Cell_Menu->Voltage Control Function->Adjust DDR Voltage) from the default value of 2.55 to the max yellow peformance value of 2.85 improves/degrades performance? Lastly, where can I get the AMD utility that you talk about?The second item, I think it was 45 (one selection less than eMachine bios).

The tolerance is the deadband, you may want to increase if the fan cycles frequently.

It will not improve performance, but it may improve system stablity if you overclock. My system is stable at the max clock bios (250) allowed with default voltage, so not need to increase it for unnecessary stress.

Driver here http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/utilities/amdcpusetup.exe

BTW, that 300W PS can handle a 7600GT video card :-0

[rambokid]

I not completely fimiliar with XP so I was wondering if it's possible to format the hard drive and reinstall without all the extra crap? TIA.Definitely format and reinstall if you have time. Those extra crap takes forever to load and run. Mcafee is the worse :evil:.
There is some eMachine recovery stuffs which you cannot uninstall thought :mad: .
Due to lack of time, I just swapped the drive with a 200G 16M Maxtor from its replacement :D

[Canadianpsycho]

Definitely format and reinstall if you have time. Those extra crap takes forever to load and run. Mcafee is the worse :evil:.
There is some eMachine recovery stuffs which you cannot uninstall thought :mad: .
Due to lack of time, I just swapped the drive with a 200G 16M Maxtor from its replacement :D

You can delete the partitions without any problems.

[The Kid]

Definitely format and reinstall if you have time. Those extra crap takes forever to load and run. Mcafee is the worse :evil:.
There is some eMachine recovery stuffs which you cannot uninstall thought :mad: .
Due to lack of time, I just swapped the drive with a 200G 16M Maxtor from its replacement :D

I deleted the partitions (fat32 partition for eMachine and NTFS partition for windows xp home) first with windows xp disc and then freshly installed windows xp thereafter. The problem is that upon entry into the newly reinstalled system without any eMachine junk, certain devices no longer are recognized (like the network adapters, etc.). Where did you get/find the hardware drivers for the components that no longer work? BTW, I am on a different computer right now because my eMachine ethernet adapter no longer is recognized by the freshly installed windows xp :( (ie. I cannot connect to the internet on my eMachine).

[Canadianpsycho]

I deleted the partitions (fat32 partition for eMachine and NTFS partition for windows xp home) first with windows xp disc and then freshly installed windows xp thereafter. The problem is that upon entry into the newly reinstalled system without any eMachine junk, certain devices no longer are recognized (like the network adapters, etc.). Where did you get/find the hardware drivers for the components that no longer work? BTW, I am on a different computer right now because my eMachine ethernet adapter no longer is recognized by the freshly installed windows xp :( (ie. I cannot connect to the internet on my eMachine).

Get the MSI drivers, that is what I did... It is a MSI board anyways. Or get them from Nvidia.

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/driver/dvr/spt_dvr_detail.php?UID=702&kind=1

[PSJ]

You can delete the partitions without any problems.

So the fresh install can be done from the restore DVD without the extra applications? And, will it have to be activated again?

Thanks

[Canadianpsycho]

So the fresh install can be done from the restore DVD without the extra applications? And, will it have to be activated again?

Thanks

I'm not sure abut that... I was merely saying that the restore partition can be deleted. I used a full version of XP to do my reinstall.

[tjuzer]

Is there way to put drive use suspension for low noise :?:

[The Kid]

Yes, COOL and QUIET require the AMD utility and set to "Minimal Power Managment" in the Power Schemes property page. :D

I downloaded and installed the utility that you mentioned. Thanks. How do I accomplish "set to "Minimal Power Managment" in the Power Schemes property page"? For the life of me, I can find how to do that.

[Konowl]

Control Panel -> Power Options

First tab is Power Scheme, it's in dere.

[rambokid]

I downloaded and installed the utility that you mentioned. Thanks. How do I accomplish "set to "Minimal Power Managment" in the Power Schemes property page"? For the life of me, I can find how to do that.Right click on desktop, click Screen Saver tab, click Power button, select from the Power schemes listbox :).
You can verify CPU speed from Control Panel, System :).

[tjuzer]

Anyone find out how to delete D drive in window setup? I try reformat but can't see drive.

With new AMD price cut. Do this mean 280 price no longer deal? I order another one. :|

[The Kid]

Konowl & rambokid,

Thanks for the info :)

tjuzer,

I saw both partitions/drives when I reformatted my hard drive. I had the option to delete them and I subsequently did when I did a fresh windows xp installl.

[SLee]

With new AMD price cut. Do this mean 280 price no longer deal? I order another one. :|
It means you can replace the CPU in the Emachines with a dual-core model cheaply.

[Konowl]

I'm having a ***** of a time with this system with a Wireless G card I bought (god I hate wireless sometimes).

I installed this card... didn't work. I installed the NVidia networking drivers, and suddenly the card worked... for a bit... then it stopped working. It's intermitent, barely working/not working, and pissing me off as I can't find ANYTHING on the net as to what the problem is. It is definately NOT my wireless router, as no one has problems connecting to my router (friends, my laptop, my roommate, my Axim....).

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

[The Kid]

I'm having a ***** of a time with this system with a Wireless G card I bought (god I hate wireless sometimes).

I installed this card... didn't work. I installed the NVidia networking drivers, and suddenly the card worked... for a bit... then it stopped working. It's intermitent, barely working/not working, and pissing me off as I can't find ANYTHING on the net as to what the problem is. It is definately NOT my wireless router, as no one has problems connecting to my router (friends, my laptop, my roommate, my Axim....).

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

Are you using the original eMachine setup or are you like me in that I reformatted and elminated all the eMachine stuff with a fresh xp install? If you want the original eMachine hardware drivers, I am in the process of reformatting the hard drive with the eMachine restore disk and then backing up all of the hardware drivers and then reformatting with a fresh xp install once again.

[Canadianpsycho]

Are you using the original eMachine setup or are you like me in that I reformatted and elminated all the eMachine stuff with a fresh xp install? If you want the original eMachine hardware drivers, I am in the process of reformatting the hard drive with the eMachine restore disk and then backing up all of the hardware drivers and then reformatting with a fresh xp install once again.

Honestly, why bother? Its a MSI board, use the MSI drivers.

If you desparately need the emachines drivers, just grab them from the emachines site. http://www.emachines.com/support/product_support.html?cat=Desktops&subcat=T-Series&model=T6216

Sounds like you're trying to reinvent the wheel.

[The Kid]

Honestly, why bother? Its a MSI board, use the MSI drivers.

If you desparately need the emachines drivers, just grab them from the emachines site. http://www.emachines.com/support/product_support.html?cat=Desktops&subcat=T-Series&model=T6216

Sounds like you're trying to reinvent the wheel.

Canadianpsycho,

I took your advce and "grabbed" the emachine downloads from their site (after a fresh install of windows xp to eliminate the recovery partition). After installing the 8-in-1 Media Card Reader Update 1.10 from the eMachine website, I now have a serious problem!

My emachine now thinks that there is a floppy drive installed in my system (A drive) when there is NO FLOPPY DRIVE on the T6216. In addition a window keeps on popping up that states the following:

shwiconem.exe - Drive Not Ready
The drive is not ready for use; its door may be open. Please check drive A: and make sure that a disk is inserted and that drive door is closed.

Anybody else experience this problem? Anybody have any ideas on how I can fix it? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[Canadianpsycho]

Canadianpsycho,

I took your advce and "grabbed" the emachine downloads from their site (after a fresh install of windows xp to eliminate the recovery partition). After installing the 8-in-1 Media Card Reader Update 1.10 from the eMachine website, I now have a serious problem!

My emachine now thinks that there is a floppy drive installed in my system (A drive) when there is NO FLOPPY DRIVE on the T6216. In addition a window keeps on popping up that states the following:

shwiconem.exe - Drive Not Ready
The drive is not ready for use; its door may be open. Please check drive A: and make sure that a disk is inserted and that drive door is closed.

Anybody else experience this problem? Anybody have any ideas on how I can fix it? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Wow, that's odd. I never installed the reader update because my reader was working fine when detected by XP.

[rambokid]

I never installed the reader update because my reader was working fine when detected by XP.Me too, no additional driver required :)
Can't say the same for the modem (for fax) :evil:

[madman604]

Is there way to put drive use suspension for low noise :?:

no, its too tight and the drive is held verticaly not flat like most pc's

you could however try squeezing in rubber grommets into the mounting holes (after drilling them slightly larger) to isolate the HDD from the chasis

[The Kid]

Me too, no additional driver required :)
Can't say the same for the modem (for fax) :evil:

I think the memory card readers were working fine but I decided to try out the update anyway. The update added some nice icons to the 4 readers plus an additional icon for a non existent A: drive :evil:. Uninstalling the update will not get rid of the non existent A: drive nor will uninstalling the A: drive in the device manager :evil: :evil: (After reboot, windows says that it recognizes a new hardware device and installs the appropriate drivers (A: drive :mad: and thus the drive won't go away.)

[mydssbin]

For those of you living in Calgary and area.

My friend picked up the exact unit, yes the EXACT unit from a local store. Ascot 403-279-4455, from his invoice, I don’t know the web address. There price is $399. Save yourself few $$ on shipping, and if something goes wrong with the unit then just drive out their.

[yuprules]

For those of you living in Calgary and area.

My friend picked up the exact unit, yes the EXACT unit from a local store. Ascot 403-279-4455, from his invoice, I don’t know the web address. There price is $399. Save yourself few $$ on shipping, and if something goes wrong with the unit then just drive out their.

Yes execpt the people in this thread got it for $299.99 before they raise the price and you sure it's an Emachine?

[cannon_fodder]

I'm having a ***** of a time with this system with a Wireless G card I bought (god I hate wireless sometimes).

I installed this card... didn't work. I installed the NVidia networking drivers, and suddenly the card worked... for a bit... then it stopped working. It's intermitent, barely working/not working, and pissing me off as I can't find ANYTHING on the net as to what the problem is. It is definately NOT my wireless router, as no one has problems connecting to my router (friends, my laptop, my roommate, my Axim....).

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

It doesn't help much but I have had no issues with my Belkin wireless G card (believe me, if I did, I'd hear no end of it from the kids about no IM).

[mydssbin]

Yes execpt the people in this thread got it for $299.99 before they raise the price and you sure it's an Emachine?

On the box it came in it said Emachine, on the computer it says Emachine, on the invoice, I have, it says Emachine, model T6216 barcode 2710307791. Maybe someone who bought it for $280/$299/$380 or whatever other price can confirm it.

[Canadianpsycho]

For those of you living in Calgary and area.

My friend picked up the exact unit, yes the EXACT unit from a local store. Ascot 403-279-4455, from his invoice, I don’t know the web address. There price is $399. Save yourself few $$ on shipping, and if something goes wrong with the unit then just drive out their.

We bought this unit at $280. After tax and shipping, approx 350-360 bucks. Its not as hot of a deal at $399 + tax.

[Canadianpsycho]

I think the memory card readers were working fine but I decided to try out the update anyway. The update added some nice icons to the 4 readers plus an additional icon for a non existent A: drive :evil:. Uninstalling the update will not get rid of the non existent A: drive nor will uninstalling the A: drive in the device manager :evil: :evil: (After reboot, windows says that it recognizes a new hardware device and installs the appropriate drivers (A: drive :mad: and thus the drive won't go away.)

Did you ensure the floppy is disabled in the BIOS (not that I think that will make a difference)? Also, check the device manager... maybe it will show up there and you can disable it, so windows won't keep looking for it at startup.

[rambokid]

no, its too tight and the drive is held verticaly not flat like most pc's

you could however try squeezing in rubber grommets into the mounting holes (after drilling them slightly larger) to isolate the HDD from the chasisIs there any reliability issue whether HD is mounted flat or vertical since the load on the spindle is different?

[neo1973]

Is there any reliability issue whether HD is mounted flat or vertical since the load on the spindle is different?
I was worrying about the same thing so I've never bought a vertical mount case myself but I've seen it in some old DELL machines.

[tjuzer]

I take Infeneon better Hynix, WDC better Seagate right? How about Hipro and Bestec power supply?

[madman604]

Is there any reliability issue whether HD is mounted flat or vertical since the load on the spindle is different?

i doubt it. if anything it'll be negligable.

[dulldull]

I bought the exacts same one from TigerDirect 2 or 3 weeks ago for $279.99. It was on special sale. Not bad at all for >$300. I would wait a week or two to see if the price would drop.

[sgmtl]

I think there should be less discussion over the hardware and more backslapping on the awesome deal we got.

AWESOME!

[tjuzer]

I wonder how come inside so clean if refurb. Even inside power supply fan. I think new if not messy cable broken case.

Can someone tell difference of this two?

NVIDIA® GeForce 6100/6150 VGA Drivers

NVIDIA GeForce 6100/6150 + nForce 430/410 System Drivers

[The Kid]

Did you ensure the floppy is disabled in the BIOS (not that I think that will make a difference)? Also, check the device manager... maybe it will show up there and you can disable it, so windows won't keep looking for it at startup.

Canadianpsycho,

Thanks for the great advice. Disabling the floppy in the bios did the trick. Now I have the 4 memory card icons and no more A: drive or annoying popup about the process shwiconem having some problem with the A: drive.

[condorguy]

I think there should be less discussion over the hardware and more backslapping on the awesome deal we got.

AWESOME!

I agree!! I wish I bought one more for my sister! :razz:

[rambokid]

I agree!! I wish I bought one more for my sister! :razz:I phoned TD to order one more for $280 after the price went backup. The guy said "sorry, we can't do it" :mad:
Does TD PM itself :D , is it possible :confused:

[tjuzer]

I try 250mhz but computer freeze at start. Bios in artifact. Is cause by ram? I add 1gb. Shouldve fully try before selling. :|

[milhaus]

Price back down to 359.

[rambokid]

I try 250mhz but computer freeze at start. Bios in artifact. Is cause by ram? I add 1gb. Shouldve fully try before selling. :|Try drop the CPU/NB to 800 to get the memory back down to DDR400 speed :)

[condorguy]

When I first started using the computer, the computer went into some kind of "standby" mode (fan off, computer hibernate) and then came back alive as soon I moved the mouse...

Now (after installing various programs and such), the coputer no longer goes into this standby mode. I loved this mode because it saved energy and was completely quiet. Anyone know the reason for this?

[Hobbesgsr]

Price back down to 359.

We're sorry, the product you have searched for is no longer available for sale.

However the $360 T6414 looks equally good...
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1829958&CatId=0

Same spec plus:

7 USB ports (versus 5)
2 Firewire ports
4 SATA headers (versus two 3Gb/s in T6216)
Radeon Xpress 200 instead of the nVidia 6100

[madman604]

When I first started using the computer, the computer went into some kind of "standby" mode (fan off, computer hibernate) and then came back alive as soon I moved the mouse...

Now (after installing various programs and such), the coputer no longer goes into this standby mode. I loved this mode because it saved energy and was completely quiet. Anyone know the reason for this?

mine still works. try checking the power options in the control pannel. see if its still set to go into "hiberbnation/sleep" mode after a preset time, or its in "Always on" mode

[cannon_fodder]

I'm not at my eMachine and have no way for the next 24 hours. Can anyone provide me a list of resolutions supported with the integrated video, specifically, WS resolutions (e.g. 1400 x 900, 1680 x 1050, etc.)?

[Canadianpsycho]

I'm not at my eMachine and have no way for the next 24 hours. Can anyone provide me a list of resolutions supported with the integrated video, specifically, WS resolutions (e.g. 1400 x 900, 1680 x 1050, etc.)?

Nvidia website states the 6100/410 chipset supports resolutions up to 1920x1440.

[cannon_fodder]

Yes, that part I have. I can't find what OTHER resolutions they support. I don't want to order a WS monitor only to find out the PC doesn't support it thus requiring me to order a video card.

All of a sudden the good deal on the LCD is diminished.

[BB88]

Does this thing run hot/noisy at all?

[sgmtl]

On the one I got, it makes a loud WOOSH when it starts, but it's whisper quiet after that.

I can't tell you about the heat tho.

[madman604]

Nvidia website states the 6100/410 chipset supports resolutions up to 1920x1440.

what add in cards are equivilant to this? EG: 9800 pro or whatever 6600gt

[yuprules]

what add in cards are equivilant to this? EG: 9800 pro or whatever 6600gt

Um...the Nvidia Geforce 6100 card in this motherboard is well....a Nvidia Geforce 6100 card :) Which would mean the 6600GT you quoted is faster than the 6100.

[madman604]

lol it had occured to me but thanks! i was thinking nawww...thats too simple :)

[masterc]

The on board 6100 is about the best OB solutions around right now. That said, the 9800 or 6600gt will be significantly faster. Actually the 9550 in the OD thread would be nice also...

Just noticed this mobo requires PCI-E cards...

[sledbc]

looks like its finally sold out

[madman604]

someone please mark this thread as dead.

i've been looking to upgrade the video to something with DVI. the vga makes my lcd look like poo

[sgmtl]

What would be better, the ob video or a raedon x600?

[BB88]

someone please mark this thread as dead.

i've been looking to upgrade the video to something with DVI. the vga makes my lcd look like poo

What LCD are you using? My Sceptre looks as crisp on VGA as in DVI.

[Jaybee]

This little machine is now RedHot!
With the help of this forum I am getting 14147 3dMarks!
Running winxp64 on MSI Bios.
Mode=PSU antec 480W true
Raid 0 = 2 Maxtor 3G SATA
ATI radeon X850 xfire single.
Cpu AMD 4400+ dual core running at 2500mz o/c from 2200mz stable
Ati card o/c 12%.
$270 can,+mode psu $70 2 HD 85 each CPU $240 xfire $160 .
Total cost $910 can minus original parts PSU $40 hd $80 CPU $120
Real cost $670 can.

[tjuzer]

Anyone know what motherboard this use and where is manual?

[madman604]

What LCD are you using? My Sceptre looks as crisp on VGA as in DVI.

a benQ 17". i popped in a BFG 7300 OC vidcard and it seems to have fixed this issue. the DVI out is super clear. now to see if it can play CS:Source :D

anyways i didnt like the fact the OB video was stealing my RAM from the CPU.

the manual can be downloaded from the MSI website

[audit13]

Anyone know what motherboard this use and where is manual?


Here's a link:

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/download/dld/spt_dld_detail.php?UID=702&kind=1

[johnny_baker]

i have this computer too, has anyone flashed the version 1.5 file with the live update 3???? just need to know before i try and what should i do before hand, any tips...thanks

[johnny_baker]

please help from above post

[madman604]

...i've been looking to upgrade the video to something with DVI. the vga makes my lcd look like poo

What LCD are you using? My Sceptre looks as crisp on VGA as in DVI.

turns out my VGA cable i was using was crap. i popped in a nice thick one and it works like a champ. crystal clear, sharp text.

[NHCG]

I have the same specs as you, and it is running great, was a little slow, but i got a 256mb video card for the PCI-E slot and now it runs faster than any computer i have ever used!:cheesygri