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espeed
Jun 12th, 2006, 09:24 PM
Hey guys

For a young guy, what's the coolest color for a Honda Civic? I was gonna choose black or silver, but black I hear is hard to maintain its clean look since dirt shows up easily, and it also gets hot in the summer with black?

I'm thinking of getting a sedan cuz they say that with a coupe, it's troublesome parking cuz of the big door, and harder to get 4 ppl in a car. Personally, I think a coupe looks sportier however. But it also costs a couple grand more I believe.

I was wondering if I should tint my windows and if I should get a spoiler. I wonder if tinting windows makes it really hot in the summer.

Slimfast
Jun 12th, 2006, 09:37 PM
getting a spoiler will not make you look cool.

A silver color is actually pretty easy to keep clean. Personally, I like the civic in blue.

Vickel
Jun 12th, 2006, 09:48 PM
are you getting a sedan or coupe?
and im just gonna assume a 2006 model
I would say silver (its easy to keep clean)
a rear spoiler will provide a more sporty look to your car and i think tinting your windows will reduce the heat inside your car in the summer

SodiumSulfate
Jun 12th, 2006, 09:49 PM
getting a spoiler will not make you look cool.



What are you talking about, spoilers ARE cool, they totally make the car!

Check this bad boy out:
http://www.speeding.co.uk/acatalog/integra.jpg

If you go fast enough and develop enough thrust, you'll fly your way to the finish line! Think of all the gas you're saving by flying!

jetway1212
Jun 12th, 2006, 09:53 PM
Why you ppl being stereotype all the time?

Having a spoiler doesnt make it rice, in many case having spoiler thats well designed for a certain body of a car makes it look more complete. Also some do take aerodynamics improvement in their designs.

Again, not all are poor and dumb like those ricers you see on street.

otaku
Jun 12th, 2006, 09:57 PM
Actually the new coupe looks better without the spoiler. The lines of the car is very pretty. I would go for a darker grey if they offer it.

dtcanada
Jun 12th, 2006, 09:59 PM
Again, not all are poor and dumb like those ricers you see on street.

Poor and dumb? dumb, yes...but they are NOT poor! they can afford all of those speeding tickets and upgrades!

Vickel
Jun 12th, 2006, 10:09 PM
Why you ppl being stereotype all the time?

Having a spoiler doesnt make it rice, in many case having spoiler thats well designed for a certain body of a car makes it look more complete. Also some do take aerodynamics improvement in their designs.

Again, not all are poor and dumb like those ricers you see on street.

I agree having a spolier doenst make a car rice, the OEM spoliers usually look the best. Most spoliers are more form then function. You will not be going fast enough to get the advantages a rear spoiler will provide

jetway1212
Jun 12th, 2006, 10:14 PM
I agree having a spolier doenst make a car rice, the OEM spoliers usually look the best. Most spoliers are more form then function. You will not be going fast enough to get the advantages a rear spoiler will provide

Its only half true.

Why?

You will need more factors to draw that conclusion. The angle, speed, weight of the vehicle are the main factors.

If you get a spoiler from a tuning brand for a certain car model with adjustable height and angle, you bet it has more function than looks.

But ALMOST all ppl on street do it for looks. I find myself somewhere between since i want performance and looks. I'm not going all out in one or the other

jetway1212
Jun 12th, 2006, 10:18 PM
Poor and dumb? dumb, yes...but they are NOT poor! they can afford all of those speeding tickets and upgrades!


Trust me they're poor in the tuning scene. Ricers never get tuning brand parts, they even skip lots of things. They do it mainly for the "look". In eyes of tuners or motosport fans, they're poor.

ichpen
Jun 12th, 2006, 10:22 PM
Its only half true.

Why?

You will need more factors to draw that conclusion. The angle, speed, weight of the vehicle are the main factors.

If you get a spoiler from a tuning brand for a certain car model with adjustable height and angle, you bet it has more function than looks.

But ALMOST all ppl on street do it for looks. I find myself somewhere between since i want performance and looks. I'm not going all out in one or the other

I'm sorry but adding downforce by way of a spoiler will only become evident when you're buzzing around a track at very decent speeds. Adding spoilers to FWD cars is even more useless as one of the main purposes of a spoiler is to add downforce to the wheels that are doing the driving (more traction).

Rear spoilers ->OEMSPORTS CARS<- (read Porche, Ferrari, Astons etc NOT Honda, Nissan, Hyundai) do help handling corners at very high speeds and together with decent aerodynamics of the car are generally a good thing.

Aftermarket bolt on ironing boards and 747 wings do nothing other than endanger me when I'm driving behind them.

Start messing around with OEM aerodynamics and you'll likely see no improvement or deterioration in handling. The fact is none of us have a wind tunnel handy or easy access to a circuit so claiming that something from Nismo is good because 'it's from a tuning shop' is meaningless without real world testing and data.

And I'm sorry but I've never seen a good looking non-OEM aftermarket spoiler...

Moral of the tale: Always buy OEM spoilers (they won't make you faster but at least you won't get laughed at every light)

nano
Jun 12th, 2006, 10:27 PM
dont paint your car a crazy colour that would be very uncool

espeed
Jun 12th, 2006, 10:30 PM
edited my OP, getting a sedan and talked about why I wanted it over a coupe

Vickel
Jun 12th, 2006, 11:00 PM
I'm sorry but adding downforce by way of a spoiler will only become evident when you're buzzing around a track at very decent speeds. Adding spoilers to FWD cars is even more useless as one of the main purposes of a spoiler is to add downforce to the wheels that are doing the driving (more traction).


actually a spolier does help a FWD car, althought the drive wheels are the front wheels you still need traction for the rear wheels so you dont spin out.
If the rear of the car has no traction it can easily slide out

daedal
Jun 13th, 2006, 07:51 AM
I'm sorry but adding downforce by way of a spoiler will only become evident when you're buzzing around a track at very decent speeds. Adding spoilers to FWD cars is even more useless as one of the main purposes of a spoiler is to add downforce to the wheels that are doing the driving (more traction).

Rear spoilers ->OEMSPORTS CARS<- (read Porche, Ferrari, Astons etc NOT Honda, Nissan, Hyundai) do help handling corners at very high speeds and together with decent aerodynamics of the car are generally a good thing.

Aftermarket bolt on ironing boards and 747 wings do nothing other than endanger me when I'm driving behind them.

Start messing around with OEM aerodynamics and you'll likely see no improvement or deterioration in handling. The fact is none of us have a wind tunnel handy or easy access to a circuit so claiming that something from Nismo is good because 'it's from a tuning shop' is meaningless without real world testing and data.

And I'm sorry but I've never seen a good looking non-OEM aftermarket spoiler...

Moral of the tale: Always buy OEM spoilers (they won't make you faster but at least you won't get laughed at every light)

Agreed. Not only that but adding an OEM spoiler does NOT help in cornering nor traction unless extensively wind tunnel tested and tweaked. It actually does the contrary and lifts your body thus providing lower traction and cornering. I snicker every time I see a "tuned" (riced) Civic roar by me with it's football sized exhaust tip and over-sized spoiler.

As far as the paint is concerned, I'd go black for the simple fact that black paint with a good waxing followed by a high quality polish can make any car stand out. Window tints are a good idea too. You can add "bling" like chrome door handles and other accessories. Spoiler if it's from the manufacturer. Not really worth getting OEM unless it really looks like retail. My two cents. Take it or leave it. :D

nsr250
Jun 13th, 2006, 08:24 AM
I think if you want to stand out , get a Red Coupe or the Blue one , just don't get the colors that everyone already has. My Civic is black but I'm lucky enough to hardly ever see much of my model civic on the road.

ichpen
Jun 13th, 2006, 11:16 AM
actually a spolier does help a FWD car, althought the drive wheels are the front wheels you still need traction for the rear wheels so you dont spin out.
If the rear of the car has no traction it can easily slide out


Ahh, if only. What you will likely get in an FWD is understeer i.e. the front goes before the rear not the other way around. So if we were for the sake of joviality assume that your wing is adding downforce to your rear, what you have is the car tipping back and thus prone to lose even more traction on the front wheels causing even more understeer. Perhaps you see my point...

Anyway, as said earlier wings when properly tested on high performance cars do help, but not your average 2 bolt screw on aftermarket type.

SodiumSulfate
Jun 13th, 2006, 11:28 AM
Anyway, as said earlier wings when properly tested on high performance cars do help, but not your average 2 bolt screw on aftermarket type.

Yeah, those 2 bolt add ons just make the car look cool:

http://hometown.aol.com/mustbedabling/images/002_2.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/mustbedabling/images/190305_155.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/mustbedabling/images/190305_157.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/mustbedabling/images/190305_219.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/mustbedabling/images/190305_233.gif

PCDawg
Jun 13th, 2006, 11:29 AM
The OP sounds young.

red is a nice color but attracts too much attention esp the police. Silver is a very common color and easiest to maintain as when its dirty its not as noticable.

Wings and spoilers....something OEM and something small is nice. Once you go into those aluminum iron-board style wings thne it gets ricey.

I remember seeing a video clip of a integra with a huge wing and it was racing with a friend in another car and as the integra passed his friend and pulling in front, his wing flew off the car LOL

Talamasca
Jun 13th, 2006, 11:38 AM
When properly cleaned and waxed, nothing beats a black car in looks. The downside is that it shows dirt very easily. The Civic comes in a royal blue that is really beautiful looking. Silver is a nice compromise. It hides dirt well but will never look as good as a darker colour, even when completely clean. Tints are a good idea. The OEM spoiler is form over function so get it if you think it looks nice and you can afford it as it won't really do anything performance-wise for the car.

jetway1212
Jun 13th, 2006, 12:02 PM
I'm sorry but adding downforce by way of a spoiler will only become evident when you're buzzing around a track at very decent speeds. Adding spoilers to FWD cars is even more useless as one of the main purposes of a spoiler is to add downforce to the wheels that are doing the driving (more traction).

Rear spoilers ->OEMSPORTS CARS<- (read Porche, Ferrari, Astons etc NOT Honda, Nissan, Hyundai) do help handling corners at very high speeds and together with decent aerodynamics of the car are generally a good thing.

Aftermarket bolt on ironing boards and 747 wings do nothing other than endanger me when I'm driving behind them.

Start messing around with OEM aerodynamics and you'll likely see no improvement or deterioration in handling. The fact is none of us have a wind tunnel handy or easy access to a circuit so claiming that something from Nismo is good because 'it's from a tuning shop' is meaningless without real world testing and data.

And I'm sorry but I've never seen a good looking non-OEM aftermarket spoiler...

Moral of the tale: Always buy OEM spoilers (they won't make you faster but at least you won't get laughed at every light)



I'm sorry but thats a big misleading info
Downforce isnt just to the wheels being powered. FWD track cars can become very..... oversteering due to light rear end. Its likely a "snap" oversteering thus FWD racing is very hard. Spoiler will help them ALOT. Ofcourse the rear always need to be stiffened.

Oh dont jump into FWD vs RWD, because both can be oversteering or understeering if you dont know what you're doing. I've seen RWD understeers madly at the track.

Also the downforce from spoiler helps maintain stability at high speed straight way. You should know the floating feel after 150km, downforce helps to plant the car on the surface.

And no you dont need to have windtunnel to choose which spoiler. Thats what tuning brand do thro R&D, trust your tuning brand and get only the model for your car. J's racing, Mugen, BuddyClub and Spoon are all tuning brands that work to produce performance. Thats why tuner change their OEM to those well developed products, like you said the OEM spoilers from Honda, Acura doesnt do **** right? LOL. So unless you're a ricer, claiming all aftermarket spoiler will decrease the performance is ignorance.

gilboman
Jun 13th, 2006, 12:03 PM
civic's are not cool period

jetway1212
Jun 13th, 2006, 12:07 PM
Ahh, if only. What you will likely get in an FWD is understeer i.e. the front goes before the rear not the other way around. So if we were for the sake of joviality assume that your wing is adding downforce to your rear, what you have is the car tipping back and thus prone to lose even more traction on the front wheels causing even more understeer. Perhaps you see my point...

Anyway, as said earlier wings when properly tested on high performance cars do help, but not your average 2 bolt screw on aftermarket type.

I replied without reading this post of yours.

Honestly, you have lots of misleading info. You need to be more specific in your "avg" 2 bolts screw spoiler. I guess you saw too many shown cars and ricers on street.

Have you been to tracks with tuners car club? i guess not cause you havent seent track modified cars at all to claim such ignorant statement

jetway1212
Jun 13th, 2006, 12:08 PM
civic's are not cool period
LOL keep that comment to yourself, claiming your own opinion like a fact.

I dont own a civic but i believe ppl entitle for their own opinion, so are you.

ichpen
Jun 13th, 2006, 12:51 PM
I'm sorry but thats a big misleading info
Downforce isnt just to the wheels being powered. FWD track cars can become very..... oversteering due to light rear end. Its likely a "snap" oversteering thus FWD racing is very hard. Spoiler will help them ALOT. Ofcourse the rear always need to be stiffened.

Oh dont jump into FWD vs RWD, because both can be oversteering or understeering if you dont know what you're doing. I've seen RWD understeers madly at the track.

Also the downforce from spoiler helps maintain stability at high speed straight way. You should know the floating feel after 150km, downforce helps to plant the car on the surface.

And no you dont need to have windtunnel to choose which spoiler. Thats what tuning brand do thro R&D, trust your tuning brand and get only the model for your car. J's racing, Mugen, BuddyClub and Spoon are all tuning brands that work to produce performance. Thats why tuner change their OEM to those well developed products, like you said the OEM spoilers from Honda, Acura doesnt do **** right? LOL. So unless you're a ricer, claiming all aftermarket spoiler will decrease the performance is ignorance.

I did not claim that understeer is in the sole domain of FWD or vice versa. Yes you do need extensive testing with the aerodynamic profile of your particular car including anything you may have done to it esp. suspension and body work. It is not a one size fits all wing irrespective of how expensive the brand is or the number of stickers it comes with. I am merely juxtaposing the idea that wings on car that does not regularly go all out on a circuit or over 170+ are nothing but show. Universal aftermarket wings and most OEM stuff are exactly that, show.

It is very easy to make your car fly and weave with some monster aftermarket jet wing at high speed so yes they can severely decrease performance.

Now repeat after me just because it says Muggen or Nismo does not mean that it is any better than sheet metal... It is all about the whole package.

ichpen
Jun 13th, 2006, 12:53 PM
I replied without reading this post of yours.

Honestly, you have lots of misleading info. You need to be more specific in your "avg" 2 bolts screw spoiler. I guess you saw too many shown cars and ricers on street.

Have you been to tracks with tuners car club? i guess not cause you havent seent track modified cars at all to claim such ignorant statement

I used to do amateur and competitive Formula Ford in my yonger days so yes I have seen a track or two.

No I have not gone on ricer vacation package to a track nor do I intend to.

Yes, I have seen many track modified street cars. None of them had silly oversized wings.

espeed
Jun 13th, 2006, 01:50 PM
I am leaning more towards silver with a small spoiler.

BTW with tinted windows, they're good for keeping heat out and having some privacy, but what do you guys think of this...maybe cops will be more wary of you? And maybe thieves will not see your car alarm inside? (or maybe they will be more deterred cuz they can't see inside your car??)

bembol
Jun 13th, 2006, 03:01 PM
What's with "cool" factor...???

What ever you decide on...remember Keep it Simple...!!!

Then again it's your Car, Money and your Choice...at the end what ever makes you happy

aquariaguy
Jun 13th, 2006, 08:28 PM
If you call a spoiler a "wing" than thats a sign of problems trying to be cool.

jetway1212
Jun 13th, 2006, 08:29 PM
I used to do amateur and competitive Formula Ford in my yonger days so yes I have seen a track or two.

No I have not gone on ricer vacation package to a track nor do I intend to.

Yes, I have seen many track modified street cars. None of them had silly oversized wings.



Are you trying to steer the topic away? I have never once mentioned "silly oversized" wings. Dont try to play cards with me...

The claim you made was its stupid to put "wings" (yes sir, thats a fcuking ricer's term) on a FWD car. And all aftermarket cars do not function, in most cases reduce performance you.

You're being ignorant as you clearly dont know jack about it. Like i said some tuning brands do provide performance gained. You laughed on the brand you dont even know jack about. Mugen aero body for DC5R was tested to show result of improving 100% more downforce than the OEM body.

If you actually know what track modified cars usually consist of, then you would know all of them have aero bodykits from a perticular dedicated tuning brand of the car model. I guess you have wasted all your younger days huh?

ps, i would also call bs on your "Formula Ford" if you call tuners ricers. Any racing teams are car tuners themself. Stop going to car shows damn it. :rolleyes:

evolution921
Jun 13th, 2006, 10:56 PM
I have a black Civic with 30% tinted windows. It does keep the car cooler during summer, and it 30% doesn't look too dark because of the big windshield and light interior colour. I was going to order the Civic hybrid lip spoiler for my car from the States, but found out that they don't offer the hybrid in black, so I am out of luck since I didn't like the HFP lip spoiler nor the wing spoiler.

gheart008
Jun 14th, 2006, 02:23 PM
Are you trying to steer the topic away? I have never once mentioned "silly oversized" wings. Dont try to play cards with me...

You guys are all steering away from the original topic. The OP only talks about looks, never mentioned anything about performance. He's asking what's the best looking, not the best performance so I think you guys should all steer away from YOUR topic and steer back to the original topic.

ichpen
Jun 15th, 2006, 09:55 AM
Are you trying to steer the topic away? I have never once mentioned "silly oversized" wings. Dont try to play cards with me...

The claim you made was its stupid to put "wings" (yes sir, thats a fcuking ricer's term) on a FWD car. And all aftermarket cars do not function, in most cases reduce performance you.

You're being ignorant as you clearly dont know jack about it. Like i said some tuning brands do provide performance gained. You laughed on the brand you dont even know jack about. Mugen aero body for DC5R was tested to show result of improving 100% more downforce than the OEM body.

If you actually know what track modified cars usually consist of, then you would know all of them have aero bodykits from a perticular dedicated tuning brand of the car model. I guess you have wasted all your younger days huh?

ps, i would also call bs on your "Formula Ford" if you call tuners ricers. Any racing teams are car tuners themself. Stop going to car shows damn it. :rolleyes:

Where are you getting these quotes from??? Wings is the term the OP used. I listed the reason why bolting on an aftermarket 'spoiler' as an after thought would mean little in terms of performance. I repeatedly stated that most cars that benefit from increased rear downforce tend to have a far more aggressive aerodynamic profile (front, back and midsection).

And you sir, need to calm down, relax and realise that this is a public forum where my opinion counts as much as your own.

And if you are so obsessively anal about some quote I often refer to as a figment of your imagination which led me to call you a ricer (which I did not) then you sir, are what you fear.

You can take your schoolboy antics and belligerent attitude elsewhere if you can't bear the thought of a tame discussion on aerodynamics without resorting to personal attacks.

gilboman
Jun 15th, 2006, 11:03 AM
LOL keep that comment to yourself, claiming your own opinion like a fact.

I dont own a civic but i believe ppl entitle for their own opinion, so are you.
i can state my opinion anyway i want. besides. civic's are not cool period :lol:

sannin
Jun 15th, 2006, 11:49 AM
Metalic Silver

new_vr
Jun 15th, 2006, 12:18 PM
When properly cleaned and waxed, nothing beats a black car in looks. The downside is that it shows dirt very easily.
Black is the best, if you are anal about keeping it clean (like me). Otherwise, silver is nice, because it doesn't show the dirt that much

espeed
Jun 16th, 2006, 01:39 AM
BTW would u pay 2 grand for a sunroof?

06TSX
Jun 16th, 2006, 05:38 AM
When I bought my car, i specifically did not want the option package that included a spoiler. But thats just my preference. Clean = good.

Some people have jumped in talking about performance, traction etc, as a result of your spoiler. It's not worth any consideration because it's a Civic, not a race car. If you get any performance out of the spoiler, it'll be negated by the mudguards at your wheels, LoL.

If you're gonna get tint and if you care about quality, make sure you go to a reputable shop. Good quality tint will not fade and will have UV protection. A good application will not bubble, and a good shop will have a warranty against it. Make sure its not that cheap dark purple-ish tinted stuff. Don't get ghetto 5% tint where nobody can see in or out of your rear windows, including when you're driving at night time.
(The tint % is how much light is allowed to pass through.. 30% = 30% of light can pass through).

Get it from the shop yourself, if you get it through the dealership, they usually refer it to a shop and in essence are just making money on top of what the shop is charging them.

$2000 is not just for the moonroof, I'm assuming you're referring to the EX model, which includes the moonroof, alloy wheels, body coloured side mirrors, rear disk brakes?? etc etc. Depends on your perference, if you feel you want these extras then go for it.

It's better to get it the first time rather than looking back later and wishing you opted for it.

Black looks good... when it's clean and shiny. You have to be dedicated to keeping it clean and washing it properly. If you wash it, but don't wash it properly, it'll look dull and you'll see ugly swirl marks and it sucks. Silver is neutral, least maintenance.

Good Luck!

SodiumSulfate
Jun 16th, 2006, 09:22 AM
On cars where tinted windows are part of the package, is the glass tinted when they make the glass, or is it a film that's applied at the factory?

I saw an older Camry (probably from the early to mid 90's) in which the tinted glass was kind of transparent purple in colour and the rear window was all bubbly. Is that what happens after the years to aftermarket tinted glass? Do you have to keep re-applying the tint film after a few years?

overboost
Jun 16th, 2006, 09:32 AM
Purple, bubbly tint is the result of a bad installation. It's important to do your research and find a good tint shop.

A lot of people in Toronto use Thornhill Tints...they are top notch. I believe one of the employees of that shop posts on this forum as well.

Don't get your windows tinted by the dealer. They will charge more, and will just sub-contract it to an outside store anyway. Ask around and see who people suggest. Make sure you ask about the warranty period on the tint, and whether that will guarantee against bubbling and turning purple.





On cars where tinted windows are part of the package, is the glass tinted when they make the glass, or is it a film that's applied at the factory?

I saw an older Camry (probably from the early to mid 90's) in which the tinted glass was kind of transparent purple in colour and the rear window was all bubbly. Is that what happens after the years to aftermarket tinted glass? Do you have to keep re-applying the tint film after a few years?

SodiumSulfate
Jun 16th, 2006, 09:40 AM
Purple, bubbly tint is the result of a bad installation. It's important to do your research and find a good tint shop.

A lot of people in Toronto use Thornhill Tints...they are top notch. I believe one of the employees of that shop posts on this forum as well.

Don't get your windows tinted by the dealer. They will charge more, and will just sub-contract it to an outside store anyway. Ask around and see who people suggest. Make sure you ask about the warranty period on the tint, and whether that will guarantee against bubbling and turning purple.

Ahh okay. So when you get a lifetime warranty on tint - as soon as it bubbled or turns purple you can get it replaced? Sounds like a great deal!

My parents car had tinted windows as part of standard features of the car. I don't think the dealer did the tinting, as it was part of the features package on Toyota's website. Is that kind of tinting a film, or is it darker glass (on cars where it comes with tinted glass from the factory i'm guessing)?

overboost
Jun 16th, 2006, 11:22 AM
There are two kinds of tint. The stuff that is impregnated into the glass (similar to the bluish tint that you see on Mercedes and some rear windows on minivans that are already dark) and window FILM. Window film is what the orginal poster was asking about.

Most reputable tinting places will stand behind their work. Choose a place that is an actual store and has been doing their trade for a while. Tinting looks simple, but there is quite a bit of experience and skill behind it. If in doubt, just get any guarantees and promises in writing from the store.


Ahh okay. So when you get a lifetime warranty on tint - as soon as it bubbled or turns purple you can get it replaced? Sounds like a great deal!

My parents car had tinted windows as part of standard features of the car. I don't think the dealer did the tinting, as it was part of the features package on Toyota's website. Is that kind of tinting a film, or is it darker glass (on cars where it comes with tinted glass from the factory i'm guessing)?