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espeed
Jun 12th, 2006, 08:52 PM
I'm getting a new Civic and was wondering what you guys would recommend to deter car thieves the best?

Wheelbar? Alarm? How about those $200 tracking devices off ebay?

I know someone's gonna crack "Nothing's gonna stop a car thief if they really want your car" so I'll say it first.

BTW I noticed today some scratch marks on my car body and in front of that, I opened the driver door and noticed paint scratches off the side. I think some ****er was trying to crowbar his way into my car at some point.

Evil Techie
Jun 12th, 2006, 09:02 PM
I'm getting a new Civic and was wondering what you guys would recommend to deter car thieves the best?

Wheelbar? Alarm? How about those $200 tracking devices off ebay?

I know someone's gonna crack "Nothing's gonna stop a car thief if they really want your car" so I'll say it first.

BTW I noticed today some scratch marks on my car body and in front of that, I opened the driver door and noticed paint scratches off the side. I think some ****er was trying to crowbar his way into my car at some point.

if u park ur car in a garage/parkage normally, a sensative shock sensor tied to a decent car alarm system will deter most of the thiefs when they try to get into the car

most of the time, noise is enuf to deter thiefs

konfusion666
Jun 12th, 2006, 09:40 PM
i'm also interested in hearing opinions of "The Club"-like products.

anyone use one on a regular basis?

jetway1212
Jun 12th, 2006, 09:50 PM
Do we have a product that lock gas pedals? I remember when i went to Asia there are such products. I know it cant stop thieves but it will slow them down significantly.

I think the best way to prevent car thieves are some freaky puppets in the back seats.

espeed
Jun 12th, 2006, 10:25 PM
I think the best way to prevent car thieves are some freaky puppets in the back seats.

I would be freaked out driving alone at night with those in my backseat, on a lonely quiet road.

Vickel
Jun 12th, 2006, 11:05 PM
if u park ur car in a garage/parkage normally, a sensative shock sensor tied to a decent car alarm system will deter most of the thiefs when they try to get into the car

most of the time, noise is enuf to deter thiefs

shock sensor is probably your best bet

the club is easy to remove and i think theives are more attracted to those cars cause they think the car has no alarm

anabeces
Jun 12th, 2006, 11:07 PM
just get bait car sticker lol.

Kenneth
Jun 12th, 2006, 11:10 PM
Boomerang. Only thing worth spending money on IMO.

Beradon
Jun 12th, 2006, 11:21 PM
I'm getting a new Civic and was wondering what you guys would recommend to deter car thieves the best?

Wheelbar? Alarm? How about those $200 tracking devices off ebay?
2-way car alarm. A good one too. If you can't afford that type, get a regular alarm but make sure there's a bright and visible blinking led.

btw; what is this $200 tracking device on ebay that you've seen?

phillbert
Jun 12th, 2006, 11:35 PM
detachable steering wheel.

gman
Jun 12th, 2006, 11:38 PM
Don't wash your car.

RZV500R
Jun 12th, 2006, 11:54 PM
or trade it in for a Kia... :D

Coke355mL
Jun 13th, 2006, 12:31 AM
Boomerang. Only thing worth spending money on IMO.

Boomerang is a hit and miss. I've known people who's gotten their cars stolen and Boomerang was unable to track while others who have had success.

Coke355mL
Jun 13th, 2006, 12:32 AM
Those 2-way car alarms sometimes don't work or have given me false alarms too.

2-way car alarm. A good one too. If you can't afford that type, get a regular alarm but make sure there's a bright and visible blinking led.

btw; what is this $200 tracking device on ebay that you've seen?

JohnB
Jun 13th, 2006, 12:33 AM
Boomerang. Only thing worth spending money on IMO.

This or LoJack or whatever its now called in Canada. It wont really deter, but youd probably get your car back in some form or another.

If youre getting a new Civic coupe, thats a really hot car, watch where you park it...

cwb27
Jun 13th, 2006, 12:49 AM
Car alarms only stop honest thieves. If someone wants your car they WILL take it....


A vehicle tracking system (Boomerang) is as good as you're gonna get, unless you wana stand next to your car 24/7.

rfdrfd
Jun 13th, 2006, 01:04 AM
I say make it as time consuming for the thieve as possible. So get all of them:

The club
Pedal lock
Shift lock
Boomerang


Of course, it may take you 5 min just taking them all off. Then the thieves will just wait till you come back to your car, then stick a gun to your head.

That's what happened to my friend that drove a Benz.

TheRide
Jun 13th, 2006, 01:11 AM
Do we have a product that lock gas pedals? I remember when i went to Asia there are such products. I know it cant stop thieves but it will slow them down significantly.

I think the best way to prevent car thieves are some freaky puppets in the back seats.

It's called Autoloc (Autolock?), I believe Canadian Tire sells them. Basically it locks up your pedals but theives can still get through it just like the club in a matter of seconds.

The key to Auto security is LAYERS. If a GOOD theif wants to steal your car then chances are that he/she will steal your car. Your job is to make sure it takes the longest possible time for the theif to steal your car so that either someone will notice him stealing your car or that he'll give up.

If you have money then try these things:

- Purchase Autoloc (pedals)
- If you have the club or a knockoff then use it (will only stall the theif for maybe 15 seconds)
- Get a decent Alarm (sensors, tilt, etc.) and if you can, MAKE SURE to install it in a DIFFERENT place rather then the conventional engine spot. Also if you can, wrap the wires in electric tape or something so that you can confuse the theif.
- Also if you have an alarm, get a backup battery in case the theif disables the first one
- If you can, do a fuel cutoff switch mod. Be sure to put the switch in a WELL HIDDEN place. Not on your dash. The thief cant get very far without any gas
- Try to turn your wheel all the way to one side so that you can make it harder for theives to tow your car away

Those are just a few. If you can afford boomerang then get it.

DVDManiac
Jun 13th, 2006, 04:12 AM
A friend of mine takes the hook off the hood release lever in the car...thief can't get under the hood or will have to spend an extra few secs to figure it out.

magical
Jun 13th, 2006, 05:11 AM
I'm getting a new Civic and was wondering what you guys would recommend to deter car thieves the best?

Wheelbar? Alarm? How about those $200 tracking devices off ebay?

I know someone's gonna crack "Nothing's gonna stop a car thief if they really want your car" so I'll say it first.

BTW I noticed today some scratch marks on my car body and in front of that, I opened the driver door and noticed paint scratches off the side. I think some ****er was trying to crowbar his way into my car at some point.

Are you looking at a 2006 civic? dont they already come with a alarm and a immobilizer? wouldn't this be good enough?

nsr250
Jun 13th, 2006, 08:20 AM
Do we have a product that lock gas pedals? I remember when i went to Asia there are such products. I know it cant stop thieves but it will slow them down significantly.

I think the best way to prevent car thieves are some freaky puppets in the back seats.

Yah we have the ones that lock the brake or clutch pedals. I think they can only be purchased through TV or at those As Seen on TV Stores.

espeed
Jun 13th, 2006, 09:27 AM
This is the GPS tracking system I saw on ebay, how does it compare to the Boomerang?

http://cgi.ebay.com/GPS-Vehicle-Car-Tracking-Key-System-Tracker-Device_W0QQitemZ9739972241QQcategoryZ73362QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem

cwb27
Jun 13th, 2006, 09:35 AM
This is the GPS tracking system I saw on ebay, how does it compare to the Boomerang?

http://cgi.ebay.com/GPS-Vehicle-Car-Tracking-Key-System-Tracker-Device_W0QQitemZ9739972241QQcategoryZ73362QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem


That device is to view where your vehicle has been. It is NOT an active tracking system to see where you vehicle currently is.

If you're serious about security, don't buy the **** that they sell on eBay.

superdeals
Jun 13th, 2006, 09:38 AM
I would be freaked out driving alone at night with those in my backseat, on a lonely quiet road.

Me Too!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

superdeals
Jun 13th, 2006, 09:43 AM
if you are parking for a long period of time then best is to get the battery disconnected!! Those thieves will have a hard time to figure out why the car is not starting!!

Spray
Jun 13th, 2006, 10:18 AM
I put an empty box of shotgun shells on my passenger seat.
Noone's stealing a car from someone that 's crazy.

charliebrown
Jun 13th, 2006, 10:32 AM
Car alarms only stop honest thieves. If someone wants your car they WILL take it....


A vehicle tracking system (Boomerang) is as good as you're gonna get, unless you wana stand next to your car 24/7.


Is boomerang really worth the $$$?

The dealership was trying to push this on us recently

Hardware/installation/monitoring

1 yr: $799
2 yr: $999
3 yr: $1099

Add another $200 for Boomerang2 (explained to us as "active monitoring"; you get a little key fob that should be in the vehicle while u r driving and u carry around when not driving. Call centre monitors and calls u ASAP if the fob isnt near the car)

Called our insurance company to see how much savings in premiums i can expect:

Window/door VIN etching: no discount
Boomerang: $25-40 a yr

To be honest, if my car gets stolen, i think i'd prefer a write-off rather than boomerang finding and returning my car...lord knows where it's been

bionicbadger
Jun 13th, 2006, 10:37 AM
get a tire boot and some gloves and keep it in your trunk and put it on when you park.

rfdrfd
Jun 13th, 2006, 10:38 AM
I think the only reason why anyone would get Boomerang is if they customized their car.

If you have a stock Civic, Honda, etc, its no different than another one, then may as well use Insurance for these types of stolen cars.

As everyone knows, there is no way to stop a thief.


Is boomerang really worth the $$$?

The dealership was trying to push this on us recently

Hardware/installation/monitoring

1 yr: $799
2 yr: $999
3 yr: $1099

Add another $200 for Boomerang2 (explained to us as "active monitoring"; you get a little key fob that should be in the vehicle while u r driving and u carry around when not driving. Call centre monitors and calls u ASAP if the fob isnt near the car)

Called our insurance company to see how much savings in premiums i can expect:

Window/door VIN etching: no discount
Boomerang: $25-40 a yr

To be honest, if my car gets stolen, i think i'd prefer a write-off rather than boomerang finding and returning my car...lord knows where it's been

feet_
Jun 13th, 2006, 12:57 PM
ez and free,
just take the spark plug wire off, the main on.
and take it with u.

or krazy glue some razor blade to the underdash area,

feet_
Jun 13th, 2006, 12:57 PM
or install a killswitch

bofh
Jun 13th, 2006, 01:17 PM
Are you looking at a 2006 civic? dont they already come with a alarm and a immobilizer? wouldn't this be good enough?

No alarm. Only the immobilizer.

Like everyone said, call your insurance company to see what the discounts are with the extra deterrents. My insurance company reduced the insurance cost for each theft deterrent. For myselft, the immobilizer, VIN etching, and a basic car alarm (no difference for a fancy one) was as far as I was willing to go.

GeneralCho
Jun 13th, 2006, 01:45 PM
Basic Security
1) The Club
2) Compustar 2W900FM-A Paging Alarm

Add-on:
3) AutoTaser
4) the "BLASTER"
See link for some pics
http://www.gettingit.com/article/69

cwb27
Jun 13th, 2006, 01:59 PM
Basic Security
Add-on:
3) AutoTaser
4) the "BLASTER"
See link for some pics
http://www.gettingit.com/article/69

Both are illegal in Canada and the US.

br0pbr0p
Jun 15th, 2006, 03:05 AM
Meh, my car has GPS tracking. Plus thieves usually steal cheaper cars, so I am not even worried.

ilovecables
Jun 19th, 2006, 03:00 AM
or trade it in for a Kia... :D

Nasty :twisted:
Gotta admit though - we've got 2 Kia's and have NEVER had a problem with theft.

espeed
Jun 21st, 2006, 10:28 AM
So I've taken note of a couple suggestions...
Are these basically the same? I know almost nothing about car alarm systems.

1. Boomerang

2. a sensative shock sensor tied to a decent car alarm system will deter most of the thiefs when they try to get into the car

3. 2-way car alarm. A good one too. If you can't afford that type, get a regular alarm but make sure there's a bright and visible blinking led.

ElDon
Jun 21st, 2006, 10:53 AM
I had Boomarang 2 in my car and still got stolen and they were'nt able to track it i also had a pager alarm, there's ways around every alarm or security system if thieves really want your car they take it if they're pros' my guess is organized crime :mad:

belgiangenius
Jun 21st, 2006, 11:44 AM
i'm also interested in hearing opinions of "The Club"-like products.

anyone use one on a regular basis?

I use a security system and a club for my 96 Civic (high risk of being stolen).

Both work well.

belgiangenius
Jun 21st, 2006, 11:45 AM
Both are illegal in Canada and the US.

Who gives a crap? The thief shouldn't be there in the first place. So, if he broke the law and broke into my car, how do I know he didn't bring the taser with him? :)

konfusion666
Jun 21st, 2006, 11:47 AM
I use a security system and a club for my 96 Civic (high risk of being stolen).

Both work well.

what's your exact Club model and where did you get it?

how do you consider it to be "working well" - has someone tried to jack your car and failed?

belgiangenius
Jun 21st, 2006, 11:50 AM
what's your exact Club model and where did you get it?

how do you consider it to be "working well" - has someone tried to jack your car and failed?

I have the band named Club sold at CT.

I say it's working well because I still have my car. :) I had it broken into and the radio stolen a few years ago before I got the alarm, but no problems since. The Club was on it at the time - only the radio was taken.

Bazooka Joe
Jun 21st, 2006, 11:56 AM
I use a security system and a club for my 96 Civic (high risk of being stolen).

Both work well.

Most car thieves quickly discover that the steering wheel is made of significantly weaker material than the club itself, thus making it a less effective deterrent than other methods. This will likely never change, as beefing up the steering wheel would have a negative impact on safety in an accident.

Layering different deterrents is the second most effective way, the most effective being driving a Lada.

GangStarr
Jun 21st, 2006, 02:32 PM
if u park ur car in a garage/parkage normally, a sensative shock sensor tied to a decent car alarm system will deter most of the thiefs when they try to get into the car

most of the time, noise is enuf to deter thiefs
keep in mind it takes about 15 seconds to break a window, pop the hood, and disconnect the battery. In a garage nobody will hear it.

A backup siren is cheap and key. Nothing will deter theives, DO NOT ever leave your faceplate in if you have a deck.

As long as your buying a 2001+ civic they all come with imobilizers now, making theft of the actual vechile very difficult if not impossible. Since a theif would rather bypass a merc or bmw imobilizer then your vic.

Dont bother with that sat tracking, the last thing you want is your car found, vandalized to hell. Imho, if someone stole my etire car, Id rather lose the car completly then get lowballed by insurance.

warpdrive
Jun 21st, 2006, 03:46 PM
Both are illegal in Canada and the US.

The Autotaser was legally sold in Canada before they discontinued it.

Narci
Jun 21st, 2006, 04:35 PM
Club is kinda useless as most thieves could saw into the steering wheel in no time and remove it.

Lo Jack, is it work the monthly payments to put it in a civic?

Getting your car stolen is hit or miss... just be smart about where you go, where you park and LOCK YOUR DOORS! You'd be suprised how many people forget to lock thier doors. Most new cars have engine kill alarms so most likely your going to get car jacked then have the car stolen.

Or get a flamethrower for your car:

http://www.gettingit.com/art/scope/technophilia990920_art2.gif

http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9812/11/flame.thrower.car/

ViperZ
Jun 21st, 2006, 04:41 PM
'As seen on TV' store used to sell a bar that attached to your brake pedal - impossible to remove. One mofo has broken the lock on my door, cut off the immobilizer, hot-wired the car to start, but could not remove that thing. Well worth the $130-150 I paid for this bar a few years ago.

gheart008
Jun 22nd, 2006, 05:54 PM
Since the car already comes with an immobilizer, you're in pretty good shape already. You asked what will prevent the theif from actually stealing the car, and the immobilizer will do just that.

You can't really prevent anybody from breaking into your car since that's another story. The club is really only used for this purpose since as people have already mentioned, the theif can just cut the steering wheel and off it comes. The club really is to make it that one step more inconvenient for someone to try and steal the car, so they won't even bother breaking into the car.

An alarm to me is useless. Only thing it does is to reduce the amount of time the theif spends looting what's in the car, but since I don't keep anything valuable in the car, this doesn't really matter.

So in essence you need two things:
1) something to prevent someone from driving away with your car
-> Immobilizer

2) something visible to detour theives from even attempting to break in
-> blinking light that comes with immobilizer

Since you already have both with the Civic, it's all good!

This is just my personal opinion. If you wish to spend more money to buy peace of mind, you're always welcome to. Never any harm in that (except to your wallet).

dgmorr
Jun 22nd, 2006, 07:48 PM
Go to your local electronics store, buy a $5 switch and $5 worth of wire. Put it inline with your fuel pump grounding wire and voila, a $10 dollar failsafe that is probably more effective than an alarm. Just don't tell anyone where you hide your switch.

Frankie3s
Jun 22nd, 2006, 10:09 PM
I'm getting a new Civic and was wondering what you guys would recommend to deter car thieves the best?

Wheelbar? Alarm? How about those $200 tracking devices off ebay?

I know someone's gonna crack "Nothing's gonna stop a car thief if they really want your car" so I'll say it first.

BTW I noticed today some scratch marks on my car body and in front of that, I opened the driver door and noticed paint scratches off the side. I think some ****er was trying to crowbar his way into my car at some point.


Get a Neon instead....that'll do it.

masterballer
Jun 22nd, 2006, 10:32 PM
Go to your local electronics store, buy a $5 switch and $5 worth of wire. Put it inline with your fuel pump grounding wire and voila, a $10 dollar failsafe that is probably more effective than an alarm. Just don't tell anyone where you hide your switch.


thats REALLY smart.....it really is.....u are smart

mau108
Jun 22nd, 2006, 10:45 PM
fuel and ignition cut and a 2 way alarm. thats the max I would go for for a civic...

Quan
Jun 22nd, 2006, 10:59 PM
Car noob here, what's an imobilizer?(must sound like a rally stupid question to most of you lol)

gheart008
Jun 23rd, 2006, 01:19 AM
Car noob here, what's an imobilizer?(must sound like a rally stupid question to most of you lol)

Here's a good explanation of what it is. Although the slides in the link were written for VW, immobilizers all work under the same concept.

http://hem.passagen.se/vf1000/Immobilizer.htm

MkmBandit
Jun 23rd, 2006, 01:56 AM
re-route your tailpipes under your drivers door. Then buy a flamethrower kit.

konfusion666
Jun 23rd, 2006, 09:12 AM
Here's a good explanation of what it is. Although the slides in the link were written for VW, immobilizers all work under the same concept.

Usually in threads like this you have people who always say stuff like "if a thief wants to steal your car, they'll steal it" -- does that apply to Immobilizer-protected cars as well? :)

neospice
Jun 23rd, 2006, 09:15 AM
They can either tow your car or wheel it into a truck and drive away.

Usually in threads like this you have people who always say stuff like "if a thief wants to steal your car, they'll steal it" -- does that apply to Immobilizer-protected cars as well? :)

konfusion666
Jun 23rd, 2006, 09:28 AM
They can either tow your car or wheel it into a truck and drive away.

Neither of which can be done in a crowded mall/public parking lot...

mbg
Jun 26th, 2006, 08:48 AM
Neither of which can be done in a crowded mall/public parking lot...

And neither of which would be done for a relatively crap car, I imagine...

GangStarr
Jun 26th, 2006, 09:18 AM
Neither of which can be done in a crowded mall/public parking lot...

Like anyone would notice or care if they saw some big tow truck driver picking up a car. Just throw a yellow parking ticket on it for authenticity.

Keep in mind it takes NO time to tow a car, and just about any pickup can be outfitted with tow equipment for a few thousand.

Everyone worries about getting their car stolen, id be more worried about vandalism and theft from whats in the car.

If you drive a high risk car, an imobilizer will thrawt most screw driver weidling theives.

trueno92
Jun 26th, 2006, 11:38 AM
Basic Security
1) The Club
2) Compustar 2W900FM-A Paging Alarm

Add-on:
3) AutoTaser
4) the "BLASTER"
See link for some pics
http://www.gettingit.com/article/69
Great Thread Guys,

This is the first real RFD auto-related thread that i haven't read loads of fan-boys or crappers making their rounds.. good info for sure.

the above basic-combo common? wondering what other devices i should tack on...

videonerd
Dec 24th, 2007, 01:24 PM
Are there any alternatives to the Boomerang service? $700 for the install, plus $9/month.

Then add a CompuStar 2-way paging alarm system, and wow... hmm...

weales
Dec 24th, 2007, 03:58 PM
Boomerang if you can afford it. Otherwise, add some layers of security to your car. Like others have said, if they really want your car, they'll just tow it away.

Honda-Tech [HOW-TO:] Car Security (http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1794938)

Cause For Alarm version6.EG is now open!! D.I.Y. Do It Yourself (http://causeforalarm.thecarthing.com/version6/index.html)

Beradon
Dec 25th, 2007, 11:01 AM
Are there any alternatives to the Boomerang service? $700 for the install, plus $9/month.

Then add a CompuStar 2-way paging alarm system, and wow... hmm...

The Boomerang is only worth it if your car is in the $50k+ range. Otherwise I would only get a CompuStar 2-way alarm with backup battery+horn & glass break sensor plus an electronic immobilizer if your car doesn't come with one. Make sure you have it installed by a trusted and certified dealer.

kleptodathief
Dec 25th, 2007, 12:17 PM
also get the proximity radar added to ur alarm too! tilt sensor if u got nice rimz too :idea:

Beradon
Dec 25th, 2007, 12:33 PM
also get the proximity radar added to ur alarm too! tilt sensor if u got nice rimz too :idea:
Both of these would pose problems. The proximity would go off any time someone walks by. The tilt would be useless if you parked on an incline/decline.

Madrid2k
Dec 25th, 2007, 10:58 PM
My CRX si got stolen when I was parked at the old Blues and Clues on Kennedy Road back when I was in university.

I asked the cop writing the report what I could do to prevent a future auto theft. He replied, "Don't park your car in Scarborough..."

Uhh... thanks for the advice.


Anyways, going back to the OP's question - they used to have this product called "The Shield", that worked in conjunction with "The Club". Basically, it was an alloy metal cover that "fanned" around the steering wheel and was locked in place with the Club.

Essentially, it prevented would-be thieves from cutting the steering wheel to remove the Club.

I felt the Shield was pretty effective. However, I fell out of the habit of using it when I bought an Accord.

Unfortunately, I think my wife threw it out when she was cleaning out the garage a couple of years back.

Too bad, I could use it again now, but I haven't seen them in stores for a long time now.

I definitely recommend a multi-layered approach as well. While nothing is 100% theft proof, I think most would-be thieves would rather not waste their time and more than likely move on to an easier target.

rosebud
Dec 25th, 2007, 11:54 PM
Don't the new Honda's come with engine immobilizer and electronic keys or something?

Kind of impossible to be stolen.

mrfrostyman
Dec 27th, 2007, 04:52 PM
As with most things that people like, if he or she wants it bad enough and has enough wisdom and skill they can probably get it.

Same thing applies to a car. There are people skilled enough that can bypass the alarms and immobilizers and such. However, making it seem like it might take a while would be your best bet. I would say go for a nice alarm, and get it installed by in a decent place.

You would not believe how easy it is to deactivate an alarm because the installer put the alarm in a very easy place to get to. I see it all the time when i am taking apart the cars.

I install GPS tracking devices at the moment(like Lo-Jack, except its constant reporting and has a server that tracks your employees). It has stopped people from getting away with the car(it was stolen, but the owner was tracking it and informed the police and gave them the cars location). But even with that, you could snip a few wires in the device and your good to go.

you could also give it to much voltage/incorrect type of voltage, etc....

Or heck, if the guy came prepared, they could put it in a steel box and work away on it since the GPS for those devices will not go through the steel. There are other means but i dont want to really be saying them, since i might have clients whom i have installed devices for on this forum.

Anyways, immobilizer is good, but i would go for a decent alarm as well. Some visible LED as well and a place that will do a good job of installing it. Thats probably the best way to deter them. Since they might break in regardless but if they have to dig around to deactivate the sucker then it might not be in their best interest to do so...

ES_Revenge
Dec 27th, 2007, 05:36 PM
Great Thread Guys,

This is the first real RFD auto-related thread that i haven't read loads of fan-boys or crappers making their rounds.. good info for sure.

the above basic-combo common? wondering what other devices i should tack on...

Before anyone goes out to get an Auto Taser or any other device that can injure or kill someone be advised that these devices are likely not legal. Furthermore even if they are legal, it's more than likely that they will not be "legal" in a civil action against you. That is, if a theif is injured or killed by the device you could be found at least partially responsible for that injury in a civil court. This is particularly true (and would result in more responsiblity being apportioned to you) if there are no warnings regarding the fact that someone could be injured by the device(s).

Yes it's true--just because they broke into your car does not mean you have the right to injure them, regardless of whether it's a device doing it or yourself.

These devices may seem cool and/or "just", but be advised they are not always legal. Since people carrying normal tasers isn't exactly legal in Canada to begin with, I'm sure that an auto-taser has the same status.

Other anti-theft methods are better bets--alarms, transponders, starter/ignition/fuel kills, steering wheel locks, tracking devices are all fine.

Also don't know if this has been mentioned but simply the type of car you choose to buy. Sorry I know that you shouldn't be forced not to buy a car because of theft but if you live/park in an area with high theft, common sense should tell you not to buy a car that will more than likely be stolen. So Civics and Integras (particularly the ones with no transponders) with model trims and years that are commonly stolen (along with other cars that you know are commonly/easily stolen), are really not a good idea IMO, if you're all that concerned about theft.

ES_Revenge
Dec 27th, 2007, 05:41 PM
Don't the new Honda's come with engine immobilizer and electronic keys or something?

Kind of impossible to be stolen.

Haha, impossible. They aren't impossible to defeat but certainly more difficult than a car that has no immobiliser/transponder. Regardless of what you do to stop a car from running (you can hook up a lot of stuff to even a basic alarm including injector and fuel pump kill, PCM kill, etc.) but that doesn't stop a larger vehicle (i.e. tow truck) from moving the car away, does it? ;)

The key thing to remember is that if someone really wants a car, they are going to be able to get it, no matter what you do.

Crash_Control
Dec 30th, 2007, 05:11 AM
I used to drive tow truck you wouldnt believe how many times ive towed cars (legally) with the alarms going off ( cause the dummy did leave the remote with the dead car) and no one even turned a head. O nwe guy that locked his keys in his car didnt even hear the alarm going off in his driveway while i was writing the paperwork after getting his keys out
Its always about whos willing to do the most work you or the thief.
More layers more protection

mau108
Dec 30th, 2007, 10:09 AM
Easy way to defeat immobilizer system is swapping ecu's which many professionals do use (I heard a few incidents of this happening with acura rsx's, im pretty sure its happening to other high end cars). But alarms like the compustar 2 way with backup siren can help deter walk by incidents.

But if a theif wants your car, he/she will take it.

rosebud
Dec 30th, 2007, 10:24 AM
ok...

so what alarm would you recommend for my new civic 2008 dx-a?

please advise.....

thx.

mliongco
Jan 2nd, 2008, 11:39 AM
ez and free,
just take the spark plug wire off, the main on.
and take it with u.

or krazy glue some razor blade to the underdash area,

This has got to be up there with one of the best and "Free" theft deterrent methods. I always do this to my Car whenever I go away for a vacation. I often forget I did it when I get back and puzzled as to why my car won't start:cheesygri