Do you buy it? Be-heading of PM... Do you really think they would do it?

[otaku]

Do you buy it? Be-heading of PM... Do you really think they would do it?
I am just curious if people are this gullible to buy this BS.. Yes or no this time and bump as you wish please

[CSR]

Do you have any references? Are you talking about the the threats to Harper?

[otaku]

Do you have any references? Are you talking about the the threats to Harper?
Welcome to prime time today...
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/06/06/suspects-hearing.html

[gorf]

Be-head? Might be a bit far fetched but who knows. Murder? Yes. If all information presented so far is true, I have no doubt they would kill. I don't think the alleged terrorists were duckhunting out on that farm.

[hagbard]

Far Out! :lol: Just kidding, of course. ;)

[UrbanPoet]

theyd have to pass through PM harper's ninjas first.
i bet NG was thinking "yay! behead harper! go terrorist woo"

[Bordello]

theyd have to pass through PM harper's ninjas first.
i bet NG was thinking "yay! behead harper! go terrorist woo"
No, NG would be thinking "where do I sign up"?

[B40]

Be careful what you say, CSIS is probably monitoring RFD :lol:

[15-20_God]

if they actually get past security to the PM, heads are gonna roll.

[gman]

If they thought about doing that, I think they would.

If that homeless guy could reach the door of the bedroom of our ex-PM, it is not entirely impossible for some people to have that idea.

[mrG]

If they thought about doing that, I think they would.

If that homeless guy could reach the door of the bedroom of our ex-PM, it is not entirely impossible for some people to have that idea.

Haha that's exactly what I was thinking!

Man, they need to beef up security.

[UrbanPoet]

did you know that the guards that protect parliment arent allowed to have guns?

Theres only a few police roaming around the general area.

[KsprayDad]

BS?

Beheadings seem to be a favourite end game when dealing with infidels, why would Canada be any different.

[xKagex]

BS?

Beheadings seem to be a favourite end game when dealing with infidels, why would Canada be any different.

I haven't seen/heard of any beheadings lately. It seemed to almost a weird sort of "fad", wouldn't you say? In case you missed it, I'm being fascetious. I fully believe Nick Berg was dead before he was ever beheaded (and more than that, that view is shared by murder forensics experts).

[phd1969]

Maybe strap a bomb and blow themselves up in the vincinity of Harper, but no way in hell they can capture the PM and behead him. I don't think these guys are the brightest ...

[KsprayDad]

I haven't seen/heard of any beheadings lately. It seemed to almost a weird sort of "fad", wouldn't you say? In case you missed it, I'm being fascetious. I fully believe Nick Berg was dead before he was ever beheaded (and more than that, that view is shared by murder forensics experts).

So desecration of a person you murdered is ok then?

as for the 'fad'...

From today's news....(bold is mine)

he Times June 07, 2006

Severed heads mark new low
By Richard Beeston
A gruesome addition to the repertoire of sectarian tit-for-tat killings is designed to drive rivals out
IRAQ’s relentless sectarian violence has taken a gruesome twist with the discovery yesterday of nine severed heads, packaged in fruit boxes and delivered to the capital of one of the country’s provinces.

Even by Iraq’s bloody standards, the ritual of kidnappings, torture and now beheadings has raised fears that the country is sliding towards civil war. The Government, paralysed by infighting, is unable to tackle Iraq’s security needs.

The province of Diyala, northeast of Baghdad, a largely agricultural community of sleepy villages and market towns, has for centuries been home to a mixed population of Sunni and Shia Muslims and some ethnic Kurds.

Within a week it has become the most feared region in Iraq. Yesterday nine heads were found in cardboard banana boxes in Baquba, the provincial capital. A few days earlier police had found eight severed heads north of the town. Between the attacks, gunmen stopped two minivans carrying students and shot 21 of them dead by the side of the road.

Raad Rasheed, the governor of Diyala, said: “There are also well-equipped, armed groups that force people to leave houses and spread violence. The province has limited capabilities for dealing with it.” Beheading victims has become a common form of execution among Islamic militant groups in Iraq. It is seen as a way of terrorising rival communities into leaving mixed areas.

[gman]

Maybe strap a bomb and blow themselves up in the vincinity of Harper, but no way in hell they can capture the PM and behead him. I don't think these guys are the brightest ...

The question is not about if they can success but if they planned to.

[xKagex]

So desecration of a person you murdered is ok then?

as for the 'fad'...

From today's news....(bold is mine)

he Times June 07, 2006

Severed heads mark new low
By Richard Beeston
A gruesome addition to the repertoire of sectarian tit-for-tat killings is designed to drive rivals out
IRAQ’s relentless sectarian violence has taken a gruesome twist with the discovery yesterday of nine severed heads, packaged in fruit boxes and delivered to the capital of one of the country’s provinces.

Even by Iraq’s bloody standards, the ritual of kidnappings, torture and now beheadings has raised fears that the country is sliding towards civil war. The Government, paralysed by infighting, is unable to tackle Iraq’s security needs.

The province of Diyala, northeast of Baghdad, a largely agricultural community of sleepy villages and market towns, has for centuries been home to a mixed population of Sunni and Shia Muslims and some ethnic Kurds.

Within a week it has become the most feared region in Iraq. Yesterday nine heads were found in cardboard banana boxes in Baquba, the provincial capital. A few days earlier police had found eight severed heads north of the town. Between the attacks, gunmen stopped two minivans carrying students and shot 21 of them dead by the side of the road.

Raad Rasheed, the governor of Diyala, said: “There are also well-equipped, armed groups that force people to leave houses and spread violence. The province has limited capabilities for dealing with it.” Beheading victims has become a common form of execution among Islamic militant groups in Iraq. It is seen as a way of terrorising rival communities into leaving mixed areas.

I don't condone desecrating dead bodies. I'm just saying it seems suspicious, that's all.

The sad and disgusting events that happen because of civil war are different than the beheadings of innocent civilians done publicly for the sake of "terrorism", but your point is well taken. I hadn't heard of any beheadings lately, but I'm obviously wrong in my view that they're not still happening. The internet and media video releases have just petered out, I suppose.

[CheapScotsman]

Do you buy it? Be-heading of PM... Do you really think they would do it? Some would do it, if they could ... could they (get close enough) to do it? probably not.

[TheRide]

I wouldn't be surprised if this was brought up to instill more fear into people. Just another story for the media to portray and to get people to tune in. It's a shame.

[Crotchety Old Man]

Maybe strap a bomb and blow themselves up in the vincinity of Harper, but no way in hell they can capture the PM and behead him. I don't think these guys are the brightest ...
At least the propoganda guys who wrote this aren't the brightest.

[phd1969]

What propoganda, this came directly from one of the defendant's lawyers! The media was shocked that the guy would come out and say such a thing.

[Stoe99]

flying planes into 100+ storey buildings....do you really think they would do it?

[GangStarr]

did you know that the guards that protect parliment arent allowed to have guns?

Theres only a few police roaming around the general area.
Where is your source for this information?

Dalton Mcguinty showed up at my friends restuarant and there were like 6 unmarked black S.U.V's there 2.5 hours before his reservation. Though I cant proove they were armed I dont see any reason they wouldn't be.

[162]

theyd have to pass through PM harper's ninjas first.
i bet NG was thinking "yay! behead harper! go terrorist woo"


I was thinkin the same thing

[Rehan]

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060607/terror_canada_update_060607/20060607?hub=Canada
CTV's Lisa LaFlamme said: "The question is why did (Batasar) say this? I think his goal was to highlight the fact that in his opinion, the Crown was trying to fear-monger ... but his move may have backfired."
Sounds about right.

[konfusion666]

Suspects seem strictly second-rate (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1149630613356&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154&t=TS_Home)

Jun. 7, 2006. 09:17 AM
THOMAS WALKOM
NATIONAL AFFAIRS COLUMNIST


If these guys are terrorists, they aren't very good ones. At least that seems to be the picture that is slowly emerging of the 17 men and boys charged this week under Canada's anti-terror laws.

Their so-called training camp turns out to have been a swath of bush near Washago, where their activities — shooting off firearms and playing paintball — were so obvious and so irritating that local residents immediately called police.

Serious terrorists, like Osama bin Laden, base their operations in remote areas where no one will bother them. These suspects, it is alleged, simply trespassed on someone's farm and, when the owner told them to leave, gave him lip.

Serious terrorists, like the 19 who attacked New York and Washington on Sept. 11, 2001, try to avoid making waves. They try to blend in.

The young men charged this week apparently didn't bother with this kind of tradecraft. They apparently didn't realize, or perhaps didn't care, that large groups of brown-skinned urbanites dressed in camouflage are not a common sight in rural central Ontario.

So when local resident Mike Côté came upon a group of just such men near his Ramara Township farm last December, he immediately informed police.

As he told the Star this week, the group appeared cold, wet and bedraggled. Some had fallen though the thin ice into a marsh. The leader of these alleged terrorists was so disgusted with his young charges that he complained to Côté about their incompetence.

These, apparently, were the conspirators. One, a former army reservist, allegedly wanted to cut off Prime Minister Stephen Harper's head. How would he find it?

It appears that a good many knew the police were on to these suspects. Harper knew. So did Toronto Mayor David Miller. So did some of the suspects' neighbours. So did many near the ill-fated Ramara Township "training camp," who told the Star later that police asked them to keep their mouths shut.

But the alleged terrorists, it seems, remained blissfully ignorant. They let themselves get snared in an RCMP sting when one of the 17 allegedly placed an order for three tonnes of ammonium nitrate fertilizer, a substance that can be used to make bombs.

According to police, suspects happily took possession of the "fertilizer" when it was delivered, not realizing that the RCMP had substituted harmless white powder in its stead.

But then that seems to be the history of this group. For militant terrorists, if that's what they are, they are remarkably naïve.

Some, it appears, chatted openly online about their paramilitary exploits at websites such as the now-dismantled http://www.shaheed.ca, oblivious to the fact that the RCMP and the Canadian Security Intelligence Service regularly troll such sites.

"I got my gun and tomorrow in the morning I am gonna do some target practise (sic) inshAllah (God willing) hott," reads one 2003 posting. "Checked out some paintball guns today at walmart."

Shaheed, the Arabic word for witness, is often used to refer to someone who has died defending Islam — including suicide bombers. It's not a terribly subtle title for a radical Islamic website. But then not all of the postings on http://www.shaheed.ca were radical or even devout.

"Man, ppl always say the Ummah (community of Islam) is so weak blah blah," reads one 2004 posting. "What ummah? I don't believe that there's 2 billion or whatever muslims in the world....It sux."

"Alhumdulilah (thank God) today was the first successful day of work," reads another 2004 posting. "What a great day it was. Sure we were late, but it's far. But Alhumdulilah, the boss is really nice. ... After that we went for pizza."

This is not quite the image that the government and police are portraying of the 17. They paint the suspects as part of an efficiently sinister conspiracy devoted, in Harper's words, to destroying "freedom, democracy and the rule of law."

As such, the arrests last week come at convenient time for the Harper government. A rise in the public's fear quotient could increase popular support for his decision to keep Canadian troops in Afghanistan another two years to wage war against Taliban and other insurgents.

Polls show that public support has been slipping for that war. The spectre of terrorism at home, however, might convince more Canadians that the Afghan war is necessary.

(Given that police have said the suspects are homegrown terrorists unconnected to any international ring, it might make more sense to station Canadian troops in Mississauga, where most of the 17 live, rather than Kandahar. But it is unlikely the Harper government will make this argument).

The arrests also come at a time when Parliament is conducting a mandatory five-year review of Canada's new anti-terror laws. Before the arrests, there was a possibility that parliamentarians might recommend that the Harper government ease up on some of those laws. That now seems unlikely.

For this, we can thank one of the world's most incompetent — or perhaps one of the world's most far-fetched — terrorist conspiracies.

[TrevorK]

I'd bet these people thought of beheading, but I don't think that any terrorist group that has a brain among them would consider doing something like this to a country that has the sort of political power that Canada does.

[Rehan]

But then not all of the postings on http://www.shaheed.ca were radical or even devout. I was looking through the website's archives on http://web.archive.org/ and every posting I could access was boring day-to-day stuff about some teenager (who is not one of the 17 arrested)... Does anyone have links to the radical stuff?

[konfusion666]

Does anyone have links to the radical stuff?


Careful... :twisted:

[Crotchety Old Man]

What propoganda, this came directly from one of the defendant's lawyers! The media was shocked that the guy would come out and say such a thing.
Your faith in the media is refreshing.

[doc_ock]

Apparently Steven Chand, also known as Abdul Shakur, was a member of the reserve forces Royal Regiment of Canada.
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/06/07/wednesday-suspects.html

[UrbanPoet]

Apparently Steven Chand, also known as Abdul Shakur, was a member of the reserve forces Royal Regiment of Canada.
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/06/07/wednesday-suspects.html

THAT BASTARD!!!
tarnishing the glory of our ARMED forces~!

[eelfliw]

You guys talk about beheading as if you're talking about sharpening a pencil.

In reality, it's not that easy. Have you ever tried to kill a Thanksgiving turkey and chop off its head? Unless you're using an axe it's not easy with a knife. You have to find the gap in the bone and chop it there. Otherwise, if you hit the bone, you'll have to hack it many times before it breaks.

I can't imagine human spine to be weaker than a turkey's. So it'll be a lot more work.

If someone wants to be an executioner, they'll have to practice. Not everyone with a big knife can do it on the first try.

So.... the idiot who has claimed he wants to behead Harper.... how much practice has he had? What has he practiced with?

[NG]

I was thinkin the same thing

:lol:

And people wonder why all neo-cons are on my ignore list.

The funny thing is I was really on the fence about adding UB (as well as a few others) to the list since he always seemed reasonable but the selective adding of Neo-Cons didn't work before because of the quoting thing (and 162 is the latest addition to my "club" since he appears to think the same way) so on just a practical level I didn't think it would work otherwise.

Looks like in retrospect I made the right call.

Gotta love how UB's post doesn't qualify as a personal attack.

Gotta love how, even tho someone is on their ignore list, they still persist in talking about them behind their back.

Gotta love that level of maturity.

Tell me UB -

Does it make you feel strong for posting that about me behind my back?

Does it make you feel the same as when you hold your phallic gun?

Does it make you feel like a big man?

As for the incident...

I think they would but don't think they could. The more we hear about this it's sounding like this was a case of "The 17 Stooges". Somehow I doubt they could pull it off.

My major concern is still their targeting of innocents in the mainly L/liberal Toronto.

Just like in 9/11 it's the innocents in the largely left leaning NYC who pay and suffer for the criminal actions of the Neo-Con governments while the core of that base sits pretty in Texas and Alberta and spews forward the Neo-Con hatred that fans the flames of terrorism.

[HughG]

deleted

but harper ?

cmon

[UrbanPoet]

My major concern is still their targeting of innocents in the mainly L/liberal Toronto.

wow... you make it seem as if you rather have them target an attack in a more conservative part of canada.
Having political views and everything is cool... but sometimes you come off as kind of whacky.

[curtis]

ha ha ha what a funny guy.

:lol:

And people wonder why all neo-cons are on my ignore list.

The funny thing is I was really on the fence about adding UB (as well as a few others) to the list since he always seemed reasonable but the selective adding of Neo-Cons didn't work before because of the quoting thing (and 162 is the latest addition to my "club" since he appears to think the same way) so on just a practical level I didn't think it would work otherwise.

Looks like in retrospect I made the right call.

Gotta love how UB's post doesn't qualify as a personal attack.

Gotta love how, even tho someone is on their ignore list, they still persist in talking about them behind their back.

Gotta love that level of maturity.

Tell me UB -

Does it make you feel strong for posting that about me behind my back?

Does it make you feel the same as when you hold your phallic gun?

Does it make you feel like a big man?

As for the incident...

I think they would but don't think they could. The more we hear about this it's sounding like this was a case of "The 17 Stooges". Somehow I doubt they could pull it off.

My major concern is still their targeting of innocents in the mainly L/liberal Toronto.

Just like in 9/11 it's the innocents in the largely left leaning NYC who pay and suffer for the criminal actions of the Neo-Con governments while the core of that base sits pretty in Texas and Alberta and spews forward the Neo-Con hatred that fans the flames of terrorism.

[NG]

Where is your source for this information?


Did he source it? I can't see his posts so I have no idea but he has posted stuff before and, dispite repeated requests from me, never posted a source.


This comment reminds me of something a liberal supporter once said against S.Harper.

"stephan harper has a dog. you know who else has a dog? HITLER. We dont know if Stephan harper traine dhis dog to eat people... but the truth is clear. HItler and Stephan harper both owned a Dog."

And atleast I've bothered to [Source] (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3282776) my statement :lol:

The only thing I've been left to conclude is that the entire statement is false or the person was speaking tongue in cheek and he just couldn't understand the satire.

On that note I wonder if that gun that Alberta shipped to be left and stolen on a poarch in Ontario is now in the hands of terrorists...

[blackhawk]

Be careful what you say, CSIS is probably monitoring RFD :lol:

It sure has been quiet here this week, anyone on the run or in the gov't 'hotel' from here :?: ;)


Probably just big talk but the hatred for the west, of which they hold themselves apart, while living here is real, if you get them young you can mold a young mind into thinking anything.

[blackhawk]

wow... you make it seem as if you rather have them target an attack in a more conservative part of canada.
Having political views and everything is cool... but sometimes you come off as kind of whacky.



ditto but I'd leave out the 'kind of' part

its important to hear this stuff so everyone knows whats out there and can be on guard

[pfdude]

Shame Chretien was no longer the PM. He would have shown those terrorists who's da man!

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/e/e0/180px-Billclennett.jpg

[UrbanPoet]

ditto but I'd leave out the 'kind of' part

its important to hear this stuff so everyone knows whats out there and can be on guard

are you a conservative/ndp/liberal supporter?

[NG]

Shame Chretien was no longer the PM. He would have shown those terrorists who's da man!

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/e/e0/180px-Billclennett.jpg

I've said it before and I'll say it again - The Liberals need to bring back Chretien! :D

[gorf]

:rolleyes:
My major concern is still their targeting of innocents in the mainly L/liberal Toronto.



What a distorted view of this country and people, this is edging on the brink of sick and full of hatred.

KOO-KOO! :rolleyes:

[CodecX81]

ahh sounds like a crappy zoolander sideplot..
killing the PM of a minority gov't..... we'd just get another one.. duuhhh

[Byrns]

:lol:

And people wonder why all neo-cons are on my ignore list.

The funny thing is I was really on the fence about adding UB (as well as a few others) to the list since he always seemed reasonable but the selective adding of Neo-Cons didn't work before because of the quoting thing (and 162 is the latest addition to my "club" since he appears to think the same way) so on just a practical level I didn't think it would work otherwise.

Looks like in retrospect I made the right call.

Gotta love how UB's post doesn't qualify as a personal attack.

Gotta love how, even tho someone is on their ignore list, they still persist in talking about them behind their back.

Gotta love that level of maturity.

Tell me UB -

Does it make you feel strong for posting that about me behind my back?

Does it make you feel the same as when you hold your phallic gun?

Does it make you feel like a big man?

As for the incident...

I think they would but don't think they could. The more we hear about this it's sounding like this was a case of "The 17 Stooges". Somehow I doubt they could pull it off.

My major concern is still their targeting of innocents in the mainly L/liberal Toronto.

Just like in 9/11 it's the innocents in the largely left leaning NYC who pay and suffer for the criminal actions of the Neo-Con governments while the core of that base sits pretty in Texas and Alberta and spews forward the Neo-Con hatred that fans the flames of terrorism.


http://www.murkworks.net/~james/LJ/waaambulance2.gif

[NG]

we'd just get another one.. duuhhh

And da Cons would just elected someone as ultra "Bush style" conservative only with out his extremist paper trail (http://www.myspace.cm/pmharper)

[Daemar]

:lol:
My major concern is still their targeting of innocents in the mainly L/liberal Toronto.

Just like in 9/11 it's the innocents in the largely left leaning NYC who pay and suffer for the criminal actions of the Neo-Con governments while the core of that base sits pretty in Texas and Alberta and spews forward the Neo-Con hatred that fans the flames of terrorism.

Did you know Edmonton was a major liberal city, and that because of statements like this made by certain ignorant and arrogant eastern liberal supporters, we have slowly turned to the cons over the past decade and a half?

Why did terrorist choose NYC and the Pentagon as targets? Probably because of the high profile. Are you saying they should kamakaze into a cattle ranch instead? ooooh, so scary! what were those terrorists thinking?

[Daemar]

And da Cons would just elected someone as ultra "Bush style" conservative only with out his extremist paper trail (http://www.myspace.cm/pmharper)


Who in Canada is a high profile ultra-extremist conservative? Canada's conservatives are barely more right-wing than the US democrats.

[blackhawk]

are you a conservative/ndp/liberal supporter?

yes ;)

I dont do team politics, I make up my own mind. Each party evolves and each leader at different levels from city to national has a leaning each way.

For instance, I like the manitoba ndp, ed broadbent but dislike the new corporate urban ndp. I disliked chretien for his many failings internationally and his iron grip on the party/country for over a decade but admire how he stuck to a fiscal conservative agenda. The liberals divided the country into french and english, central and west and played each against the other since trudeau for their own personal gain, not a lot of statesmen in there. Mulroney got a lot of policy through but was a poor fiscal manager, more liberal fiscally than chretien.

The conservatives tend to come into power, do a lot of things then get the boot while the liberals are basically caretakers so spend more time in power as they talk a lot and do/offend little.

The "my party, right or wrong" attitude is where democracy has failings, not rewarding policy but rather picking a team and a leader and going down with their ship.

So I consider myself socially liberal but fiscally conservative with a lot of respect for the old NDP party and policies. I grew up rural too and still live in a rural area although very close to the cities.

Hope I didn't bore you and this helped you understand my position.

[curtis]

Wow, a very non-offensive conservative post :cheesygri

I agree with you, and will go a step further and specifically point out that the voters are the ones who need to be more reasonable.

Party loyalties seem to be very strong in Canada, and unfortunately, a good party today is not always a good one the next.

yes ;)

I dont do team politics, I make up my own mind. Each party evolves and each leader at different levels from city to national has a leaning each way.

For instance, I like the manitoba ndp, ed broadbent but dislike the new corporate urban ndp. I disliked chretien for his many failings internationally and his iron grip on the party/country for over a decade but admire how he stuck to a fiscal conservative agenda. The liberals divided the country into french and english, central and west and played each against the other since trudeau for their own personal gain, not a lot of statesmen in there. Mulroney got a lot of policy through but was a poor fiscal manager, more liberal fiscally than chretien.

The conservatives tend to come into power, do a lot of things then get the boot while the liberals are basically caretakers so spend more time in power as they talk a lot and do/offend little.

The "my party, right or wrong" attitude is where democracy has failings, not rewarding policy but rather picking a team and a leader and going down with their ship.

So I consider myself socially liberal but fiscally conservative with a lot of respect for the old NDP party and policies. I grew up rural too and still live in a rural area although very close to the cities.

Hope I didn't bore you and this helped you understand my position.

[hagbard]

flying planes into 100+ storey buildings....do you really think they would do it?

no.

[corrupt123]

if they actually get past security to the PM, heads are gonna roll.

didnt Ed the Sock manage to interview Cretien at one point?

I dont think our security is as tight as that of the u.s. president.

[gordholio]

Personally, I think things are being added to the story as it goes along.
The government wants more money to combat terrorism and having these arrests and the accusations makes it more likely they will be able to get more funding.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

terrorists will do anything in order to make their point. they prolly would do it, although since there were some young terrorists they would have no experience and they wont have the balls to behead the pm.

[NG]

didnt Ed the Sock manage to interview Cretien at one point?

I don't think our security is as tight as that of the u.s. president.

I hope it doesn't - it'd just serve to put an end the that classic Canadian tradition of Pie'ing the Premier/Prime Minister.

However I'd be careful in the case of a Conservative since Klien pressed charges while Chretien laughed it off.

[Casanova]

some gouv official was refering to them as a bunch of "losers", only thing tey could have blown is their garage.

[batman321123]

flying planes into 100+ storey buildings....do you really think they would do it?

Nope, and they didn't. (I think we're talking about the same 'they' here).

Fortunately, I'm not gullible enough to believe the bs spewed by mass media nowadays.

[M@rk]

I think they all wanted to behead the PM, and maybe even planned it as a fantasy, but I highly doubt they had an actual plan to carry it out. For some reason, these terrorists strike me as not being smart enough to actually plan something sophisticated like that.

I guess we'll see how it turns out. (the trial, I mean)

[NG]

some gouv official was refering to them as a bunch of "losers", only thing tey could have blown is their garage.

:lol:

However having said that if there was no real danger one wonders if Harper put some pressure on the RCMP to make the sting now to support his agenda instead of the RCMP continuing to watch them and see if they led the police to some *real* terrorists.

[Rehan]

some gouv official was refering to them as a bunch of "losers", only thing tey could have blown is their garage. http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1149717018426&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154&t=TS_Home
"One source described them as a rag-tag assembly of "losers." But he went on to note that the men accused of the London bombings last July were similarly dismissed, yet still managed to inflict considerable carnage."

[UrbanPoet]

it snot that hard..
all you gotta do is mix that fertilizer with Disel feul and let it soak for a few days. It then creates a highly potent explosive...
I think 3 tons would have been enough to level a few floors of the TSX...

Its the exact same explosive used in teh oklahoma city bombing.
They had a cube van filled of it.. and it blew up that entire building

[M@rk]

Yeah, it's not hard to blow stuff up, but it is to behead someone. It's like... what if they walk into the parliament building, fight their way to Harper's office, and it turns out he's out for lunch :-0 ...